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Yes, quite quite terrible! Times were different (hopefully) back then...🙏

One of our team used to see Anglesey in the distance from her front window for a few years. Such a beautiful place - all low key, a great family holiday location. You aare right - the local population were truly shocked. Interestingly, as they wanted to protect the children, one of the richer families opened their grounds and invited the children on the hanging day. The place was flooded with tourists to view the hanging, but the papers do not relay any kind of spectacle satisfaction as on other cases we have reviewed. Also interestingly, he had Calcraft as executioner - that is a hike in terms of travel! Have a brilliant week coming up!🙏

@@newsofthetimes Ooo... Calcraft. Was surprised to find him there. I guess his motto was "Have hanging? Will travel." ( A bit of gallows humour there, forgive me.)

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We think so too! Both cases sound like a rather mercenary use of the woman to get money or propery. We do not know what happened with either of the discarded women. Mrs Bartlett - we would hope her father would take her in. Mrs Rowlands and her extensive family - not sure if she wold have gained the farm? She had at least 1 boy who would have been of working age. If she had the farm, which sounded prosperous, that would have been an asset. There was some speculation in the papers - how much did she know of the murder plot of her father? - but this did not legally go anywhere and was not pursued. However if neighbours thought she was involved, she would have had a tough time remaining in the village - or even Anglesey itself which is not that big. Thank you, as always!🙏

It certainly does seem so, doesn't it?😉

Thak you -so glad you liked! Given the whole speed of marraige and murder - this all feels very predatory as it does with Rowlands. Possibly coincidentally, but it does come up over and over: if friends and family think the marraige is a bad idea - it is a bad idea!😉Sadly, we do not know what happened to the nameless Mrs Bartlett - bless her. We very much hope she stopped attaching herself within a week with vagabond travveling show artisits.🤞Thank you, as always.🙏

@@newsofthetimes Well, Mrs Bartlett's actions sure had deadly consequences, didn't they?! Mind you, she wasn't to know her future husband was a homicidal nutcase!! He also had the AUDACITY to write THAT LETTER too!! It was SOOOOOO self pitying - "Woe is me!!"

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Thank you🙏 - really glad you liked it!😉

Thanks for commenting! We understood, ummm, too late, what very stirng feelings his tale evokes!🤔

@@ChronicleofTheTimes2024 thank you and your team for all that you do. I truly love hearing these stories from times past.

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hope all is well with you and yours. *concerned*😟

@@newsofthetimes I thank you for your concern. Very kind. All is well here, no worries. Just had a super busy day and ran out of steam when I would normally watch your video. Was just too pooped.

@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 Glad all ok!👍Did not want to pry.

@@newsofthetimes I'm touched by your concern. Thank you.

Wow!!! This is an early morning suprise! Gracious - thank you so very much! 🙏Much much appreciated! 🤗Gosh - rather speechless actually! Thank you - your very kind donation is so very much appreciated by us all! 💖HUGE thank you! It is like we have an additional member of the team! 🙋‍♂️We clink our very early morning coffees to you!☕☕☕Thank you so very much again!🙏

In Yorkshire, it was called pobbs! You know things are a bit tight when.....😉

@@newsofthetimes yes,you knew what it was to go without in those days.

Yes, we had it in Ireland too and called it bitties or maybe my mother put that name on it to make me eat it but I loved it 😀

@@claresmith9261 Interetsng how things have changed....and the differnet names for the same thing!🤔

I was just thinking the same when I saw your comment, so had to join the replies😂. I was born in the early 1960s , and you brought back fond childhood memories for me. Could never persuade my own daughter to have some though 😂😂,

Bloomin' heck! How did that happen??? Sadly no pictures of the enchanting Ann Lloyd...killing a family for a woman is rather an extreme measure! 😏

@@newsofthetimes absolutely 🙂👍

Thank you -🙏. oooh, can we say mid-life crisis? He would have known the impact of his actions beyond just his wife. We find it bizarre that he could possibly have thought he would get away with it. And the old "someone must have come in and randomly poisoned them" got about as much credence then as it would in this day. Interestingly, Friday's stories also have an element of "it could not be me, it must have been some random person who did it" aspects to it. Thank you again!🙏

Sorry - we have no further records on Hannah daines. We would expect that her older son, who was gainfully employed, would have helped his mother. The younger son was nearing an age when he too would have started employment. We would expect that she would have continued to suffer the effects of having had aresenical poisoning - the impact could last a lifetime and could include partial paralysis.You are quite right - the family would certainly financially be hit in a devastating way. It could also have an impact on a family socially - like a taint. However, it was a small community and she was the victim. It sounded as if the village gathered around her in her hour of need - we would like to think they did so again.🤔Thank you - great question! thank you for your support!🙏

Thank you - glad you liked! 🤗We do know that the much desired Mrs Lloyd does indeed get married probably thanking her lucky stars that she did not end up as the next Mrs Daines. We do not know what happened to hannah Daines. She would have continued to feel the effects of rthe arsenic most likely - arseneic poisoning was not something that tended to just go away. We hope her older son who was gainfully employed would have helped his mother. We do not know what happend with the younger son. He bounced back faster than any of the others so hopefully he was not too badly physically impacted. As for the trial - yes, he got off the first time (agreed - unbelievably) because of the lack of motive! No one had seen him place poison in the water - his son had not yet come downstairs. With no motive, and a highly circumstantial case, the case was missing parts - as the prosecutor alluded to at the time. But, the motive in the attempted killing of his wife was clearly established and it was an easy case to prosecute. He was utterly contrite in prison (he had before been heavily involved in the methodist community), wishing he could take it all back. Murder is a rather difficult one to take all back...🤔Thank you as always!🙏

He obviously did it as he confessed in prison but had he not the evidence was very circumstantial even with his wife , they had only one motive as to why he’d do it but that’s very weak to convict someone especially now a days Imagine he hadn’t done it and it was a neighbour with a grudge

@@claresmith9261 Great point! 🙏We think, however, it was also a different world. It was a small community in which everyone knew everyone - there would have been a limited pool of peopele possible. He had said repeatedly ot Mrs Lloyd that his wife was unwell and would be going any day now...circumstatial for sure, but also persuasive we think. Thank you! Love the thoughts and comments!🙌

@@newsofthetimes Yes, sorry I’m forgetting how small and intimate communities were then and easier to investigate , different times 👍🏻

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Your point was exactly why he got off with his daughter and Elizabeth M - what was the motive? 🤔He had been known as an "ok" father - he did not beat his children even if he was not overtly affectionate with them. In the cell, he broke down, confessed and was mightily contrite wishing he could take it all back. We think he was having a bit of a breakdown. It reminds us a bit of that old old film "Ten" with Dudley Moore becoming obsessed with Bo Derrick (?). Poor Hannah. She would most likely have felt the physical repurcussions for the rest of her life. Arsenic poisoning does not just go away. And what she must have felt that an attack on her took away her child and best friend. It would have been very diffiuclt to recover...😔

@@newsofthetimes Wow!! Poor Hannah!! I NEVER knew that arsenic poisoning had long term effects on the body, even if the victim survived!! I suppose, in those days, without modern medicine, the after effects of the arsenic would have been horrific!! The loss of her daughter and best friend would have added to poor Hannah's anguish!!😥💔 I wonder what happened to Anne Lloyd, the widow?!

@@nadiabrook7871 The much admired Mrs Lloyd does indeed marrry and probably did at least a few prayers thanking her luck not have married him!😏

@@newsofthetimes Mrs Lloyd did indeed have a lucky escape!!

Yes - a tremendous story this one! Wow - vengeance is mine! One of those really really bad days. In the area, it is still remembered. Did she or didn't she....boil down the body to make lard to sell to the local pubs? Ewwww.😉

Well said! We agree - and the harm inflicted was not isolated - it would have had an impact on the wive(s), children and their parents and family. Thank you for your kind comment and support!🙏

It is. He was an absolute wrecking ball in terms of the rollout impact on others. Very sad. 😔

Wow! We love to hear when real life meets up with one of the stories! 🤗From the pictures of long ago, it looked to be a very nice place! Did you know of the haunting of Rose Cottage? It is supposed to be hanted ot this day...🤔

Thank you for replying! I’m on a Mitcham Facebook site, I’ll ask about Rose Cottage if I may?

@@norfolknanny4886 Please do! 👍 It is the continuity of history which makes it so interesting! We would love to hear! Thank you 🙏

Thank you 🙏🤗👍

WELCOME Denmark! We LOVE Denmark! 🙌A member of the team is Norwegian! Many a very happy holiday there! Thank you - a sad story indeed with many ripple effects to people who had the misfortune to land in his sphere. 😢

Interesting! Thank you! 🙏 We love to hear people's personal experineces with the stories! It makes them more real. Thank you - very kind! 🤗Glad you liked it. Wow - he was fairly high on the evil scale. The poor women! And the rollout impact on the children!😔

Thank you! And to you and yours!🙏

Thank you - we agree completely. 👍And the system was in place such to keep them down. It is, as you say, a cpommentray on society when a whole village of women diverts to murder in ptrder to survive. It was actually taken as such, and there were changes in the law to attempt to make life a little more equitable 🤔

Yes, he was fairly awful! 😡 He must have had some charms to successfully woo all the women. And, as we said, there were rumours that he had had a prior relationship with Florence's married sister (but, this could just have been salacious gossip - it did not come up in the trial). The sister who introduced the two of them would probably have felt that guilt all her life.😔No, we do not know what happend to the two women sadly. The first wife who forgave him and visited him in prison would have seen her life destroyed. No idea how she would have been able to support 8 children on her own. The second "wife", which was never legal, we are hoping her family would have taken her in - although they had been opposed to him. Great lesson here - listen to friends and family if they do not like your planned partner! This came up in the Coachford case too! Thank you for yoru support, as always!🙏

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Completelly!👍He would not have stopped if he hadn't been caught. Trail of misery left for the women unfortunate to have known him. 😔

Thank you! 🙏🤗😁

Thank you - glad you liked! 🙏We do not know what happened to his long suffering wife. We were slightly horrified that she forgave him! He seemed quite the rogue and in many ways! Once again (as in the previous Regent square episode), Scotland yard traced him down quite quickly despite his efforts to settle quietly in a small community under an assumed name. Good old Scotland Yard!😁🕵️

@@newsofthetimes I know!! I can't believe she forgave him either!! Hopefully, she was able to continue supporting her numerous children!!

Yes indeed - really good point! It makes it worse doesn't it? As you say, he knows precisely how much she would suffer (and she did for two weeks) and he does it anyway. Hmmm. 😔

oooooh! we KNOW this one! Sure - we will absolutely put that on the agenda and give you a heads up when it is up! We have another request we have promised to do as well who has been waiting very patiently for a 1934 case which we had to push back. (ummm, it just did not fit iwth the newgate calendar / aristocracy themed month of April) We will let you know when we get that one up - we should be able to move things around and get it in within the next two weeks😁Thank you for the suggestion!🙏

Quite horrible and quite shocking! It did not take long for Rush to be caught.🙌

Thank you 😀

Thank you Sorry for the error 😁

Glad you enjoy it! The earlier English can be challenging But we narrate as was originally written Thank you for your support 😀

Thank you! Yes, you have made the big time when you made Mme Tussaud's! The clothes were probably his and given over, for money, from Calcraft. Thank you! Safe weekedn to you and yours as well!🙏🙌

@@newsofthetimes His clothes?? shudder

@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 Yes - that is what he did. He apparently made quite good money from it.🤨

Sincere apologies - we are tremendouysly fond of Norfolk and can pny apologise for our rubbish place name pronunciation. We thank you for your patience.😉🙏

Thank you!🙏

Yes, he was certainly a shady charachter! His agreement had been with the father of the two Jermy's - a reverend. But, what was found out when he died and Jermy snr took over (who was a recorder, so he had a good knowledge of the law) was that his father had been being cheated by Rush. Therefor a new agreement was made which was at higher rates and that is what seems ot have really bitten Rush and started the poor relations! And all of his shady deals were coming due at the same time - financially he was practically bankrupt. No sorry - we do not know what happened with his nine children. Pre about 1860 papers tended more towards the short and sweet news articles - there would almost never be any follow up. Thank you, as always, for your unswerving support!🙏🙌🌟

Thank you! Really kind - thank you for your support - very much appreciated!🙌

Yes Calcraft - who really enjoyed his job! Calcraft would also have collected any of his possessions and sold them to Mdm Tussaud's and keep whatever he took a fancy to after a long and painful death. The number of spectators of the execution was said to exceed 15,000. Thank you so very much for your kind comment and support!🙏🙌

Thank you - really glad you liked it! We do love the older stories, but the language can sometimes be a bit awkward. It is hard to imagine the utter panic having a man striding about your house with a gun, cape and mask on, just shooting anyone in his way. 😱

Thank you! We are not sure what the name of them would be in the states? The recorder manages the court cases - allocates which court case goes to which judge and which court case happens when - so quite an important role. In some of the way way way out in the woods places in earlier times, if there was no proper judge about the recorder would act as judge. We have done one case where that is what happened (but sorry, do not remember which one!). Thank you so much for your kind support! We love to hear from our American cousins across the pond!🙌✨