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  • The Wheeler Family Murder Cases
    News of the Times Episode 285 | 1880 & 1890
    Today’s episode looks at two series of killings, 10 years apart, by the same family.
    The first murder takes place in Hertfordshire with Thomas Wheeler blowing the head off of the man he intends to rob. Descriptions speak of brain matter on the ceiling and walls. A very sad case, but not so uncommon. His 14 year old daughter takes her father’s execution badly.
    Almost exactly ten years later and the daughter is involved in a truly horrific double murder of her love rival and baby. The case was considered so shocking, it remained as a display at Madame Tussaud’s for years.
    Murder cases from the Wheeler family 10 years apart is today’s episode of Wicked Wednesdays.
    Hosted by Robin Coles.
    #NewsofTheTimes #VictorianCrimeStories #HistoricalCrimeStories #VictorianMurders #Historicalcrimedocumentary #historicaltruecrime #hertfordshire
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 36

  • @tillyg8858
    @tillyg8858 Місяць тому +4

    Well, well, two murderous Wheelers. Thank you for sharing.😊

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you - the Mary Pearcey story is really something. She would be on our female bad, mad and dangerous to know list!

  • @brenmanock
    @brenmanock Місяць тому +6

    Oregon here. Loving your channel

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      Hello Oregon from across the pond! 🙋‍♂️Very nice to hear from you! We BELIEVE (we could be wrong) we actually did an episode that tied to Oregon. Please forgive us if we are wrong, but we think an episode we did on an early identity theft case came originally from Oregon. ua-cam.com/video/gHdA_ltmSfA/v-deo.html It sounds, by all accounts, to be a really lovely place! Thank you so much for supporting our little channel. 🙏

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you. Enjoyed.

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you - glad you liked! It was the nearly 10 years a part thing that intrigued us. Fridays is quite interesting and a little bit different. Hope you like it. 🙏

    • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
      @zero_bs_tolerance8646 Місяць тому +2

      @@newsofthetimes I'm sure I will. Thanks again.

  • @ameliazerner4308
    @ameliazerner4308 Місяць тому +2

    Australian here 🇦🇺
    Love this channel

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      Helloooooo Australia - we LOVE Australia! The diving there - just ncredible! Thank you so much for your kind support - very much appreciated! 🙏our sister channel, Chronicle of the Times, offers a "lighter" side to Victorian life if you are interested. 😉

  • @jocelynsomerville4319
    @jocelynsomerville4319 Місяць тому +1

    So so love your stories look forward to them every week thank you 🙂👏

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому

      Thank you - most kind! 🙏 We have a really fab one coming up tomorrow (or at least we think so)😉. A bit different than the norm. Queen Victoria goyt involved in this one as did her son Bertie - but on opposing sides! Not sure if you are interested, but we do a "lighter" side of Georgian, Victorian, Edwardian life on our sister channel @chronicleofthetimes.we have set it up so that when we are not uploading at news of the times, we are uploading at chronicle of the times. Thank you agin for your support of our tiny channel! Very much appreciated!🙏

  • @Silverfox2121
    @Silverfox2121 Місяць тому +1

    Love your channel. Thank you so much for your constant efforts.

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому

      How very kind! Thank you! We have some (we believe) real crackers coming up! Our loose theme this month is aristocracy and assassins, so many of the stories will have a tie to that. Tomorrow's episode is a bit different and was HUGE. Queen Victoria got involved as did her son Bertie, Prince of Wales, but on opposing sides! We really hope you like it. 🙌

  • @Carolinel673
    @Carolinel673 Місяць тому +2

    Brilliant Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 here .

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      Hullooooo Scotland! 🙋‍♂️You are up late! Gosh, we think Scotland corners the market on cool crime stories! Hoping to do some more Scottish stories soon!

  • @sonder122
    @sonder122 Місяць тому +2

    I like the very Victorian summing up by the Judge in Mary’s trial, it just reeks of sanctimony.

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +2

      Ah yes. We Brits are ace at sanctimonious ramblings! Especially during Victorian times! Mary pearcey / wheeler was a werid one for sure. 🤪

  • @brendaholliday6866
    @brendaholliday6866 Місяць тому +2

    This was truly a heartbreaking story about a father and daughter murderers. First case, Thomas obviously was guilty of murder and burglary and later confessed to his heinous acts. Second case, Mary murdered a woman and her baby because of a jealous love rivalry of a womanizing married man is beyond any common sensibility. It's interesting that Thomas said he hoped none of his children would follow in his footsteps. Do you know whatever happened to Mrs.Wheeler and her children? Also, whatever happened to Mrs. Hogg? Great investigating, presenting, backstories, illustrations, photos, and videos, as well. Take care 🦋

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      The original Mrs Wheeler quite possibly was relieved that he was executed! He did not sound like a very nice man in general at all, although Mary was quite clearly close with him. Phoebe Hogg and her baby, confusingly also called Phoebe Hogg, was the one who was so horrifically murdered, then placed on top of her own baby, little phoebe, in the pram and pushed away. It is possibly hard to imagine, but Victorian prams were MUCH bigger. Policemen actually testsed that a full adult could squeeze into the pram in question and they could!. So mary was pushing n a pram, in order, crushed baby phoebe, with dead mother with slit throat phoebe on top of baby phoebe. Then Mary wheeled the pram, dumped mother phoebe in one place followed by baby phoebe n another along with the pram. How gruesome is that?? super super super creepy!

  • @coldboogeronapaperplate6495
    @coldboogeronapaperplate6495 Місяць тому +2

    I did! I did enjoy the show! :)

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      *wink*😉Ah - we see what you did there!😁 Thank you - we are so very glad you did!🙌

  • @lebowskiduderino89
    @lebowskiduderino89 Місяць тому +6

    Haalooo!! It's the Yank from across the pond!!!! First in the comment section!!! Hip hip hurrah!!! Jolly good show old bean!!!! Tally hoooo! Yank out!

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому

      Whoo hoo! Lovely to hear from you American cousin! Thank you, as always, for your tremendous support! 🙏🪄

  • @nadiabrook7871
    @nadiabrook7871 Місяць тому +1

    Well, the saying is like father, likes son!! In the case of the Wheelers, it was like father, like daughter!! Mary NEVER seemed to learn from the mistakes of her father!! What a stupid, evil woman!!
    May poor Phoebe Sr and little Phoebe Jr RIP!! 💔😭🌹🌹
    Thanks for yet another INTRIGUING video, Robin!! ❤💕💖👍👏💞

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, very tragic Phoebe and her little girl. 😔 Although she was not deemd insane, there was something clearly very wrong with Mary. Very sad indeed.

    • @nadiabrook7871
      @nadiabrook7871 Місяць тому +1

      @@newsofthetimes This is one of those nature vs nurture conundrums!!🤔🤔

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      @@nadiabrook7871 Well said! Too true! 👍👩‍⚕

    • @nadiabrook7871
      @nadiabrook7871 Місяць тому +1

      @@newsofthetimes I think Mary was TOO MUCH like her dear old dad!!

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +1

      @@nadiabrook7871 Really sad. We are sure she would have been found to be mentally unwell. The poor mother and daughter. We do not know to what extent Mr Hogg played up to her and led her on. He sounde dlike a man who liked his cake and wanted to eat it too!

  • @user-li9yc7bs1j
    @user-li9yc7bs1j Місяць тому +2

    🙏

  • @brianbailey5626
    @brianbailey5626 Місяць тому +2

    Also from the USA. Today if the UK still hanged prisoners much would have been made by her defense of her trying to hang herself ie- lack of blood flow to the brain and the effects that it could have. I myself feel that while it is dated the judge made a true statement

    • @newsofthetimes
      @newsofthetimes  Місяць тому +2

      Top of the morning to you American cousin! 🙋‍♂️We do not often include judge's speeches because they can be a bit *yawn* 🥱, but we thought this one was quite good! I think we can all agree there was something terribly wrong with Mary. rather sad really in several ways. 😔

  • @mauricedavis2160
    @mauricedavis2160 Місяць тому +1

    🙏✨👌👍🦉🐲❣️