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Episode 76: Bitcoin, The Fourth Turning, and the New Order w/ Brandon Quittem
My long and wide-ranging conversation with Brandon Quittem of Swan Bitcoin from April 28th. Really recommend giving this one a full listen.
Link to Brandon's essay, "Bitcoin and the Rhythms of History", brandonquittem.com, Oct 2020 brandonquittem.com/bitcoin-rhythms-of-history/
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Episode 75: The Fourth Turning is Here, Canadian History, and Reading for 2024 w/ Patrick Primeau
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Episode 75: The Fourth Turning is Here, Canadian History, and Reading for 2024 w/ Patrick Primeau
Episode 74: Higher Education and Corrosive Ideas
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Episode 74: Higher Education and Corrosive Ideas
Episode 73: November 22nd's Shadow
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Episode 73: November 22nd's Shadow
Episode 72: A Few Random Thoughts
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Episode 72: A Few Random Thoughts
Episode 71: A New Phase / The Stakes
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Episode 71: A New Phase / The Stakes
Episode 70: The Fourth Turning is Here Review - A Complex System?
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Episode 70: The Fourth Turning is Here Review - A Complex System?
Episode 69: The Fourth Turning is Here Review - My Quick Reaction
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Episode 69: The Fourth Turning is Here Review - My Quick Reaction
Episode 68: Millennials Talk The Fourth Turning w/ Heidi Briones
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Episode 68: Millennials Talk The Fourth Turning w/ Heidi Briones
Episode 67: Short - The Millennial Advantage
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Episode 67: Short - The Millennial Advantage
Episode 66: Angelo Codevilla and the Ruling Class
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Episode 66: Angelo Codevilla and the Ruling Class
Episode 65: Short - Babel and "The Will to Power"
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Episode 65: Short - Babel and "The Will to Power"
Episode 64: The Role of Popular Historians
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Episode 64: The Role of Popular Historians
Episode 63: Short - Mapping This Fourth Turning
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Episode 63: Short - Mapping This Fourth Turning
Episode 62: Short - The Generations Conversation Has Gone Off the Rails
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Episode 62: Short - The Generations Conversation Has Gone Off the Rails
Episode 61: Short - The Fourth Turning's "CliffsNotes Problem"
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Episode 61: Short - The Fourth Turning's "CliffsNotes Problem"
Episode 60: The World is in a Fourth Turning
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Episode 60: The World is in a Fourth Turning
Episode 59: "Gen Z Saves Democracy" - Setting the Record Straight
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Episode 59: "Gen Z Saves Democracy" - Setting the Record Straight
Episode 58: "Save Democracy" Mania Part 2 - A Nation of Intellectuals
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Episode 58: "Save Democracy" Mania Part 2 - A Nation of Intellectuals
Episode 57: The One Prediction That Seems Safe
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Episode 57: The One Prediction That Seems Safe
Episode 56: Politics, Paranoia, and the "Vital Center"
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Episode 56: Politics, Paranoia, and the "Vital Center"
Episode 55: Historians at the White House
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Episode 55: Historians at the White House
Episode 54: The Future of the Historian
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Episode 54: The Future of the Historian
Episode 53: The Problem with "Hard Times Create Strong Men"
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Episode 53: The Problem with "Hard Times Create Strong Men"
Episode 52: A Conflict of Visions - Readings from Nietzsche, Sorokin, Sowell, & Hamilton
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Episode 52: A Conflict of Visions - Readings from Nietzsche, Sorokin, Sowell, & Hamilton
Episode 51: The President, The "New World Order", & The Fourth Turning
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Episode 51: The President, The "New World Order", & The Fourth Turning
Episode 50: Today's "Dominant Minorities"
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Episode 50: Today's "Dominant Minorities"
Episode 49: Is 2022 the "Gate" Year?
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Episode 49: Is 2022 the "Gate" Year?
Episode 48: "Save Democracy" Mania Part 1 - The Fourth Turning
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Episode 48: "Save Democracy" Mania Part 1 - The Fourth Turning
Episode 47: Different Roads - It's a Wonderful Life and The Fourth Turning
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Episode 47: Different Roads - It's a Wonderful Life and The Fourth Turning

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  • @christopherb9667
    @christopherb9667 18 годин тому

    I get the sense that both you and Brandon think COVID was a bigger inflection point in the current 4th turning than the 2016 election. I think Neil's identification of the 2016 election as a regeneracy in his latest book is a bit off base. The attempt to forge a COVID consensus fits the definition of a regeneracy much better, even though it appears to have largely failed.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 16 годин тому

      Well they were both inflection points in their own way. Personally, I don't believe in the regeneracy idea anymore. I think it's something Strauss and Howe conceived out of want more than on historical evidence. Neil doubles down on the idea in his latest book, and that struck me as something he should have been challenged on immediately.

  • @fakereality96
    @fakereality96 5 днів тому

    I'm starting to get the feeling that you feel Neil Howe is taking for granted the eventual salvation of the future millennials will bring about because you seem to believe that Howe makes certain assumptions as to how millennials were brought up, and that Howe should do a deeper dive into millennial upbringing and arrive at a better conclusion. I could be wrong tho.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 5 днів тому

      Right you are. He's been caught up in looking at Millennials as a hero archetype for a long time. He doesn't appreciate as much as he should, the fact that growing up in the '90s and the early 21st century was in many respects totally unlike growing up in between the World Wars. Nor does he seem to appreciate that America's social cohesion and the dominant attitudes about the country itself are miles apart today from what they were then. The generational archetypes aren't as deterministic as Howe thinks. I'm a Millennial (as I suspect you are); I know what it was like growing up then. It was not exactly the most wholesome or empowering experience.

    • @fakereality96
      @fakereality96 4 дні тому

      @@generationreport I feel as though the broad conclusion Howe draws about the end of the crisis era hinges on certain conclusions that lack deep analysis. I can see some of what homie has written about as being true. However at times I find myself wondering exactly how (no pun intended) homie arrives at his conclusions without citing examples, or at least talking to people who grew up during the unraveling era as protected children.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 3 дні тому

      Exactly...and he's been able to stay with his usual approach to discussing these subjects for a long time, because he's never encountered anyone (or had to contend with anyone) who has the same facility with the subjects as he does. Whether Neil realizes it or not, he's in an echo chamber. The latest illustration of that was a recent podcast he did with F.I.R.E.

    • @christopherb9667
      @christopherb9667 18 годин тому

      @@generationreport I hope you don't mind me jumping in but I agreed with what you, Brandon, and fakereality are saying about how Strauss and Howe presented not just Millennials as Heros but really all of the generational archetypes in the current saeculum. It may be my GenX bias showing but I feel he's very invested in not just Millennials as Heroes but in a vision of Boomers being wise Prophet elders in the mold of the Missionary Generation without taking into account that we attribute many positive values to the Missionaries in 20/20 hindsight looking past 1945. The team orientation and consensus building qualities of Heroes also produce group think and ostracism of non-conformists, which he does recognize as eventually creating the hubris of the GI Generation. I think that's where a lot of the feeling that we might be on the path to a technocrat authoritarian state comes in. Any of the positive qualities of each archetype can be overdone to the point of being a net negative. Great conversation, and I'm happy to see folks engaging with Strauss and Howe's ideas. I've had it in the back of my mind for a long time, after hearing Neil and Doug on CSPAN back in the 1990s and their ideas have helped me make some sense of what's been going on in the world for the last decade or so. Thanks!

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 16 годин тому

      @@christopherb9667 I have a LOT to say about this exact subject. A future episode is in the works. Stay tuned!

  • @sidanx7887
    @sidanx7887 8 днів тому

    I don’t know why I didn’t get a notification for this but - long form! Heck yeah …

  • @ConorChepenik
    @ConorChepenik 8 днів тому

    good ep

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 8 днів тому

      Thanks. Please share the episode with people you know.

  • @Teekey90
    @Teekey90 9 днів тому

    Great talk. Just saw his interview with Neil a month or so ago.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 8 днів тому

      Thanks. Please share the episode with who you can.

  • @daniel8181
    @daniel8181 12 днів тому

    Why are you denying context? Millenials voted for trump until he failed to do his job, and then they caused his defeat. Millenials are only statistically more left by a margin made of entirely of minorities who increased in number at the same time because boomers invited in the world and sterilzed themselves after 1.5 children.

  • @chrisweare113
    @chrisweare113 12 днів тому

    This is sooo good PZF… half way through but loving it; really appreciating Brandon’s clarity of thought, observations and rationalisations and exemplary delivery… am a big fan of you both TY 🙏

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 11 днів тому

      Thank you, very much. Please share this episode with your friends.

  • @nadia.lewis.
    @nadia.lewis. 12 днів тому

    Young people don't want to go to the bank anymore than they want to go to a Blockbuster.

  • @johnnyjon440
    @johnnyjon440 12 днів тому

    Evolution is bogus. Adaptation I can get behind. But my dude… there is no proof of this satanic theory

  • @Voke
    @Voke 13 днів тому

    Good content gents!

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 11 днів тому

      Appreciate it! Please share this episode with your friends.

  • @albertsanchez-alvarez195
    @albertsanchez-alvarez195 13 днів тому

    Brandon appeara to be a dan of Peter Zeihan as well. Loved the talk. I learned of BTC and was sucked into it in months in '17 Found the The Fourth Turning 2 years later. I'm very much Left of center, still am. I don't see a conflict in this at all

  • @peterruh60
    @peterruh60 13 днів тому

    Great talk Gentlemen!!

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 11 днів тому

      We both worked hard to make this happen. Please share the episode.

  • @albertsanchez-alvarez195
    @albertsanchez-alvarez195 13 днів тому

    Holy shit 2 of my favorite subjects if you could have included whiskey and sex this would be the best video ever! Great job 45% through so far

  • @24tommy109
    @24tommy109 13 днів тому

    The fourth turning and New order are just interchangeable terms for jewish supremacy

  • @variolaa1089
    @variolaa1089 19 днів тому

    Do you know details from his car accident?

  • @epolania1
    @epolania1 22 дні тому

    STEVE BANNON IS A LOWLIFE TRAITOR

  • @cheeseman417
    @cheeseman417 22 дні тому

    Agreed...👍🏻 💯. But generational theory works looking backward.. when people aren't aware that their personalities are archetypal based on their age.. but if one has knowledge of this feature.. one may actively work to alter that... now scale that up by millions of people, corporations, etc. and we're in uncharted waters now because the very knowledge of the theory has become so widespread. It's almost like a generational double slit experiment is what im getting at.

  • @fakereality96
    @fakereality96 Місяць тому

    It's all about who will buy more Mountain Dew and Doritos.

  • @KOLDBLU3ST33L
    @KOLDBLU3ST33L Місяць тому

    People can't handle power...it makes megalomaniacs of most.

  • @DaveGarber1975
    @DaveGarber1975 Місяць тому

    It seems to me that, although it was rather irregular during medieval times, it's been turning rather like clockwork since 1700ish, transitioning into a new era every even decade. So, I'm confident that the 2020s will mark a transition out of the fourth turning. The 2030s will be more like the 1950s. But we'll see.

  • @aquinastozelie6459
    @aquinastozelie6459 Місяць тому

    I think it'd be interesting for someone to do a deep-dive on us border mini-generations, the Xennials, Zennials, etc. I wonder if we have the potential to choose our generational role or maybe even role-shift. Neil Howe has mentioned somewhere that the big crisis creates a pretty hardline for when the Hero generation begins/ends based on who is old enough/capable of military service. However, I think for most generations there can be a bit of a fuzzy transition era between each generation in which people can fall more on one side or another based on geographic location (cities hit trends in culture and politics sooner than rural areas), and childhood experience/who their parents are (half of Millennials were raised by Boomers and half by Xers).

  • @chriscoviello2500
    @chriscoviello2500 Місяць тому

    You got to love when someone is telling you to not listen to the historians. Always make you wonder what they want you to forget

  • @arminus983
    @arminus983 Місяць тому

    Its been going downhill every since 2008 ,it will go down in history as the year that America died

  • @user-nu4py2mu6o
    @user-nu4py2mu6o Місяць тому

    The Electoral College is a fair and equitable system. The problem is that most (48) states have perverted that system by making their state electoral vote a winner-take-all contest. If electors were distributed as they originally were, presidential elections would mirror the composition of the House of Representatives.

  • @TheCreationTutor
    @TheCreationTutor Місяць тому

    democracy is how Nazis got elected, communism starts etc.

  • @tjcomer
    @tjcomer Місяць тому

    They are anti American academics who want to plunge the country into one party rule.

  • @bellofthedesert1595
    @bellofthedesert1595 Місяць тому

    Sounds like more leftist ideology of how to destroy this one of a kind country - their comments and ideas would literally destroy this country. Huge thumbs down from Siskel and Ebert.

  • @richhauxwell7848
    @richhauxwell7848 Місяць тому

    I don't give a rats ass about Democracy, I care about Our Constitutional Republic.

    • @asheronwindspear552
      @asheronwindspear552 Місяць тому

      A Constitutional Republic and a Democracy are not mutually exclusive. Please stop this nonsense, comments like yours are why people make fun of the America education system.

    • @bellofthedesert1595
      @bellofthedesert1595 Місяць тому

      Democracy literally means majority rule - and that is why our brilliant founders made this country a Republic and NOT a democracy. Get educated yourself.@@asheronwindspear552

  • @2010stoof
    @2010stoof Місяць тому

    We are a Republic. We are not a democracy..... For professors of government at Harvard that's a pretty big mistake to make.....

  • @55Quirll
    @55Quirll Місяць тому

    Wrong. This is not a Democracy, it’s a Republic. Check the founding documents and there isn’t any mention about Democracy

  • @fakereality96
    @fakereality96 Місяць тому

    As of now it sounds like you've soured on Strauss and Howe.

  • @user-pn7cc3ws2h
    @user-pn7cc3ws2h Місяць тому

    If we don't have trust in our institutions whaat do we got, their theory to serve people

  • @randyanderson4442
    @randyanderson4442 Місяць тому

    Unfortunately Biden has succeded in sending the U.S. on a downward path to it's eventual crash.This is why we need to reelect Trump.

  • @ShyP3rson
    @ShyP3rson 2 місяці тому

    Heidi is great.

  • @dcrelief
    @dcrelief 2 місяці тому

    Exceptional song for expedient thoughts and deeds.

  • @tonymcgray9599
    @tonymcgray9599 3 місяці тому

    The van neistat video makes sense. he described the start of the regeneracy as "when people start to get pissed off and politically active, people begin to organize themselves into groups" Does that sound like 2016 to you? The FDR presidency cause similar polarization, and Neil howe agrees with this assessment. What you are actually referring to here is the consolidation. this is where those groups consolidate into one group in order to tackle a larger threat. warlord era China during the Japanese invasion is the best example. ua-cam.com/video/jgwLBPkKpBk/v-deo.html The regeneracy is ongoing, we are waiting for the consolidation phase.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 3 місяці тому

      Van Neistat's videos are book reports. You're relaying what you read in a book. This podcast is something else.

    • @tonymcgray9599
      @tonymcgray9599 3 місяці тому

      @@generationreport I highlighted the van neistat video because it offers a good visual representation to help prove my point. I’m aware it’s not a podcast.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 3 місяці тому

      @@tonymcgray9599 Van Neistat's understanding of the "fourth turning" concept independent of what he read and regurgitated from Neil Howe, is completely basic. He's producing videos to get eyeballs. I'm working to further develop an idea, independent of anyone else. And I no longer believe in the "regeneracy" idea.

    • @tonymcgray9599
      @tonymcgray9599 3 місяці тому

      @@generationreport ok thanks for clearing that up

  • @Ashwind2018
    @Ashwind2018 3 місяці тому

    Great video! However, I want to point out that the third millennium started in 2001, not 2000. Many people don’t realize this.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 3 місяці тому

      Indeed it did. Please share this series with people you know. Thank you.

  • @tonymcgray9599
    @tonymcgray9599 3 місяці тому

    Neolib Media: "4th turning theory DOOMSDAY prophecy" Yes, its doomsday for the neo-liberal order, lets be honest, these political ideologies tend to last for about 2 turnings before there's a political realignment. your just going to have to wait until the 2060s thats assuming the IPAD kids want your ideology.

  • @albertsanchez-alvarez195
    @albertsanchez-alvarez195 4 місяці тому

    I a loving these long form videos and conversations.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 4 місяці тому

      Thank you. Please share my channel with your family and friends.

  • @Robert_Daniel
    @Robert_Daniel 4 місяці тому

    the majority of the generations I see defined by Strauss and Howe, span 20-25 years, but why is it some of the generations like The Lost Generation (1883-1900) The Silent Generation (1925-1942) and Baby Boomers (1943-1960) span only 17 years? why 17 years specifically is their a reason for this?

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 4 місяці тому

      Technically, it's 18 years of birth cohorts. It seems straightforward to me: the age of majority is 18. Not all generations are 21-24 years long, because not all turnings last 21-24 years. The last fourth turning lasted 16-17 years. Go back to Generations (from 1991), and you'll notice every US generation is at least 18 years of birth cohorts long, except one: the Progressive (born 1843-1859).

    • @Robert_Daniel
      @Robert_Daniel 4 місяці тому

      @@generationreport in America the age of majority was not 18 until the 1971, so the age of 18 may have not have held as as much significance to someone born in 1925, who turned 18 in 1943. I guess my point is that a generation would usually be defined as the period between your birth and your first child, which is what I always thought was the rational for a generation lasting at least 20-30 years was. I believe Neil Howe has criticized the Pew Research designations for this very reason, but some of his generations are not that far off comparatively. what would happen if a turning only lasted 10 years? In that scenario could their be a 10 year generation?

  • @stevebarrera7513
    @stevebarrera7513 4 місяці тому

    Good interview. It's nice to finally see your face, Paul. I like your point about Strauss & Howe theory resonating most with Gen Xers, because they get the most 'ah-ha' moments. I've found that to be the case as well.

  • @IvyANguyen
    @IvyANguyen 4 місяці тому

    IIRC didn't the GI generation know their purpose in society in that they were the ones fighting in WW2 to ultimately end dictatorships in favour of democracy? What is the big purpose in society Millennials have this time around? As a nearly 40-year-old, climate change seems like something that will continue go on long after we are no longer living, and so restoration of nature on our planet will be a continuous thing every day, year, decade, and century. So I don't see climate change as the big thing we (Millennials) and we alone specifically must address.

  • @albertsanchez-alvarez195
    @albertsanchez-alvarez195 4 місяці тому

    Thank You Paul and your guest Patick. Great converstion and I enjoyed the longer more in depth format. As much as I like your Channel your videos always leaves me wanting more. Regarding Revenge of Geography and concepts of the Fourth Turning I think that Peter Zeihan concepts and particlularly his book The End Of The World Is Just The Beggining share a lot in theories. Thank you I do fall into the trap of fear and loathing regarding the comming election. I have a plan B, This year is when I get my Mexican Citizenship just incase things go south (no pun) in the US

  • @ThereIsOnlyWar40k
    @ThereIsOnlyWar40k 4 місяці тому

    Reading Thomas Sowell? You've exposed yourself as a pro-reality extremist.

  • @ThereIsOnlyWar40k
    @ThereIsOnlyWar40k 4 місяці тому

    You're the man that got Maggies Farm stuck in my head. I'm half way through this. America, UK and the EU have elections this year. The EU is more predicatble. There will be a nationalist trend in June. Dont be surpised if Ireland has a civil war. There's regular arson attacks on specific buildings. The UK going more nationalist will have a random effect. Either The Conversatives lose votes to a new more nationalist party, or lose votes to Labour for becomign more nationalist.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 4 місяці тому

      Haha...I got a head full of ideas, that are drivin' me insane.

  • @igranderojo
    @igranderojo 4 місяці тому

    When will the three generations fill their age cohorts: Elderhood, Mid-life and Young Adulthood? That is the beginning of the Climax Phase of the Crisis Era. That is when Boomers become Prohpets, GenX become Nomads and Millennials become Heros.

  • @fillmorehillmore8239
    @fillmorehillmore8239 4 місяці тому

    Do you have a list of the books you mentioned somewhere? I listen while doing tasks and couldnt write them down. Good pod.

    • @generationreport
      @generationreport 4 місяці тому

      Just put the reading list up. You actually helped me catch a mistake I made late in the episode. Thank you for reminding me!

  • @igranderojo
    @igranderojo 4 місяці тому

    GenX does not fill their role until the Climax Phase begins. Boomers do not fill their role as Prophet until Climax phase. Also the three generations must align in age cohort and climax phase begins before Millennials become the Hero generation. Critique is premature if Climax phase has not begun

  • @christopherb9667
    @christopherb9667 4 місяці тому

    Greetings Paul .. Early Gen-Xer here. I definitely agree with Patrick that reading Strauss and Howe's analysis in “Generations” and “The Fourth Turning” gave me a lot of ah-hah moments. I think it's also a matter of Gen-X being a lot less visible in the media than the Boom or Millennial generations. Though my family was more stable than Patrick's, I can relate to the free-range kid experience as people would call it. I think I first heard of Strauss and Howe from one of their appearances on C-SPAN in the 1990s, and I've been re-reading and thinking about Generation Theory more since about 2020. I've been viewing your videos and subscribed to both Patrick and Heidi Briones's SubStacks. Thanks for highlighting them. I'd been wondering if anybody else was reading and thinking about Generation theory. I thought “The Fourth Turning is Here” was good (after binge reading it over New Years Eve day), and agree that Mr Howe does a pretty good job of presenting events and analysis with as little bias as possible. I appreciated his deeper dive into a framework for understanding Fourth Turnings, and more descriptions of the American Saeculums in general. I thought your comment about the book having a 1990s world view was interesting, and tracks with one of the only things that disappointed me about the book. It did seem a lot of material related to events that occurred in the last decade was sort of tacked on to a narrative that hadn't changed much since then. I follow a geopolitical analyst named Peter Zeihan. He doesn't specifically endorse Strauss and Howe but the demographic labels and descriptions he uses track pretty well with Generations theory so he's at least reaching the same conclusions if he's looking at the same data. (If you do watch his stuff on UA-cam I hope you aren't offended by his occasional Gen-X wisecracks about Millennials.) In comparing his predictions with Mr Howe's, I think Mr Howe leans too much toward thinking this cycle will be a repeat of the Great Power saeculum Fourth Turning even though the US doesn't really have peer opponents as we did during that period and the Global Order of the American High is unlikely to return soon per Mr Zeihan's analysis. That's a bit ironic in a book that often cautions against assuming recent history will repeat itself. My other disappointment, which could be a bit of an X-er sniping at a Boomer, is the (small h) heroic stature consistently given to the Boom Generation in the Fourth Turning across all of their works. We're deep into the Fourth Turning now and, while future events certainly could change attitudes, I really don't see evidence that the Boomers will “choose to retain their moral authority by arguing-uncharacteristically-to impose sacrifices on themselves and other older Americans for the sake of their community.” (The Fourth Turning Is Here, p. 344) If anything, to me the arrow points in the opposite direction where Boomer (and Silent) leaders are essentially pulling up the ladder and insisting that younger generations forgo the material abundance the Silents and Boomers enjoyed in the first three turnings of this saeculum in response to projected threats that I find to be pretty dubious. My personal prediction is that we're going to wind up in a period more like the Civil War Crisis-Gilded Age High(minus the war) where our national government delegitimizes itself due to corruption and ineffectiveness, and the institutions that come to the forefront are private enterprises (SpaceX vs NASA being an example) and non-government organizations.

  • @SydDylan
    @SydDylan 4 місяці тому

    I been interacting with her on twitter. Seems pretty cool. Making a fourth turning video soon. I mainly do PA News but got a documentary on my other channel that features the fourth turning. Its such a great topic. Here looking at a great 2024, for the worst and the best.