Neil deGrasse Tyson Doesn't Understand Vegetarianism (Is There An Ethical Diet?)
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2023
- Neil deGrasse Tyson has some interesting ideas about vegetarianism and sentience. My thoughts on "Is There An Ethical Diet?" from the StarTalk podcast.
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He might understand astrophysics, but in all other ways, I think he is an intellectual lightweight.
As a physicist I haven't met another physicist that thinks of Neil as intelligent. He is universally mocked within my profession, and openly mocked as an example of a sophist.
As @820monster put it: Neil tends to say things in a way where you can tell he thinks it'll blow your mind. He says it slowly then leans back proudly gazing at you waiting for you to digest it. He acts like every sentence he utters is a precious gift to humanity.
I love how Niel simply ignores that farm animals also need to eat plants and that the production of animal products leads to more plants being killed than eating the plants directly.
I wrote off Tyson a long time ago. He sets himself up as this uber scientist and then makes ignorant pronouncements. Just the kind of media personality we do not need right now.
This was great! If plant aliens care about dumb plants, then the obvious next conclusion Neil should be making is that us animals should care about other animals...
I’m sure that Neil wouldn’t be OK if his dog was living in a cruel torturous situation. It’s easy to ignore animal cruelty when it doesn’t affect an animal that you have affection for.
I'm impressed he managed to say all this with a straight face.
My husband and I were going to get tickets to see him when he comes to Detroit. Not now! Oh my word…
While anything is possible, when you know better, do better. When you have more choices, pick the one that causes the least harm and pain. Thank you for your videos 👍
You’re so right - he is displaying willful ignorance.
Tyson is a narcissist and a bully. He gets very defensive whenever he is challenged. I doubt that he has ever had a meaningful conversation with an actual vegan who has given a lot of thought to their moral choices. This was a great critique, Swayze. When you break down his arguments, they fall apart because they have nothing to do with actual vegan philosophy.
The extent people will go to justify animal abuse knows no bounds
Plants probably aren't conscious. First, it seems obvious that they aren't. Second, they don't have nervous systems. But they do have intercellular signaling that results in some form of information integration and processing. So they might be conscious. But even w/ that in mind, there's much more reliable metaphysical grounding in the claim that animals w/ nervous systems are conscious. It's about as certain as a thing can be in physical sciences that they are. So I think Tyson's challenge about "slaughtering" plants is a reasonable one to make, but the response is "it's a near certainty most animals we eat are conscious, whereas we can only say it's not impossible that plants might be, so the balance of probability, combined with empathy, necessitates that the plants be destroyed for our consumption."
Totally aside from the main topic, but I remember being at a workplace potluck where I brought some pickles, olives, and baby corn (I'm not a good cook, so bringing some hor'doerve type stuff seemed like a good idea).
Also, would this plant-like aliens diferentiate between people who eat only plants and people who eat plants along with meat, and only be disturbed by the vegans? How does one complete that thought process and chooses to post it??
Yessss thank you for making this! I stumbled across his video on Facebook and was just stupified lol
I do not eat oysters myself, but I agree that it one must eat animal protein, oysters are the best choice, as they more than likely are not fully sentient. In my mermaid novel I'm writing, the merfolk primarily eat plant-based, but also eat bivalves for extra protein, and also use their shells and pearls for clothing and accessories ;)
i’m native but i’m also a vegetarian. i believe that the way that my people consume animals is as ethical as it gets, and i still make the choice not to eat animals. it’s all relative to each individual tbh
DIY Mouse trap that worked brilliantly for me was one using a wine bottle and a bucket. All other humane traps worked half the time but this wine bottle one is brilliant. I can't seem to find a tutorial on the internet (an old man told me about it). First, drink a bottle of wine. Then place it on a table or counter where the mice go, having the neck of the bottle over the edge of the surface. Place a bucket under the wine bottle neck with some soft things inside to soften the fall. Put a smidge of peanut butter just in the rim of the wine bottle. The mice come and climb onto the bottle to try to get the peanut butter then fall into the bucket. I caught all the mice in my little house like that, watching them fall in is very cute.