2018 Ford Mustang GT - Is it worth £45,000 ?!!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2018
- I first drove the Ford Mustang GT 18 months ago, and to be honest I wasn't very impressed ! Lots of power and noise but a poor automatic gearbox really let the car down. I was still a lot of car of £35,000 though.
The new face lift Mustang has more power and I get to drive the manual 6 speed. With a will specced Mustang now costing north of £45,000 it had better be good !
A big thank to Hendy Ford in Portsmouth for lending me their Mustang demonstrator for the day. Give them a call, this is a car that needs driving !
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I rented a 2013 5.0 gt for 2500 mile vacation and easily averaged 22mpg around city and 26 mpg on the highway. If you are getting 11.5mpg you are “enjoying every moment”.
I sure did enjoy it :-)
Clint Mullins if you care about mpg in a muscle car. You may as well wear the dress in your family
Your Pal at the end of the day the mustang makes a very decent everyday car. You have to drive it hard to get 11.5 mpg.
@@clintmullins4406... Exactly, I have a couple of buddies that have GT's and their MPG is similar to yours!
Great review, love the channel. I think I'm falling in love with these Mustangs, but I'll wait a year or two before getting one second hand. I find them charming. Beautiful on the outside, great sound, and for second hand money you can probably forgive the interior a little. By the way, at times you really remind me of Dave Gorman!
These will be a second hand bargain :-)
Glad you like the channel. Not been called Dave Gorman before ;-)
Brilliant video! Loved every minute of it. You are so enthusiastic and fun to watch. Great camera angles and shots. Very hard to find safe places to leave cameras for fly by shots, well done.
Mine showed as 2.5 mpg when I first got it. Takes a while to show the correct mpg until the car clocks some miles up. 2 and a half years on I now average 18mpg.
Liked and subbed and enjoyed 👍
Thanks for the Sub. Great to have you along for the ride 👍
Those are not "intakes" on the hood. Those are heat vents to help cool off the engine.
The 2018 Mustang 10 speed auto will out-gun the new manual as well as the old auto. And your comparison with other Euro brands is biased, you didn't mention the cost of a say V8 Mercedes compared with the cost of a Mustang? In Australia you can buy just about 2 Mustangs with the cost of one V8 Mercedes. Even the AMG hot hatch costs circa $10k more than the Mustang in this country. And then, there is the ongoing maintenance costs of a Euro car. You can throw the Mustang around twisty mountain roads at speeds which is more than double the recommended signposted speed without getting out of shape. How much faster you want to go on public streets?
Nice, honest review. I get the 'at this price, I'd want a bit more' comment but... you didn't stop smiling while you were driving it ALL the time!! I've owned two Mustangs - 2009 GT (raw, rough, unrefined) and a 2013 BOSS 302 (6 speed manual) and they always put a smile on my face. The Mercs, Beemers, Audis etc. are brilliant, but I think it's the rough edges on a Stang that means YOU have to drive them, not the computer, and boy are they fun to drive.
;-)
Oh. I loved every minute driving it, but that is different from using my money to buy one ;-)
Another cracking review Ped. Thank you.
Cheers Buddy :-)
Somehow I don't think it would be an everyday day, and most would also have a Fiesta eco-boost.
Interesting, here in New Zealand the Eco-boost Mustang has No Resale. No one wants one. If you have a Mustang, it need a V8.
I agree :-)
I live in Sydney and I'm lucky to own my 2nd car being a silver 17 GT - 6 speed. Bought the car for sub $60k and absolutely love the style, the raw V8 sound and the rough character this beast gives you. IMHO it's the best bang for buck car in the world atm. Mercs, BMW and Audi's are $100k plus but lack the soul of the Mustang. Life is to short you must enjoy the V8 whilst you can before governments across the globe ban/tax any petrol cars in the future.
Good point Andrew. These were amazing bang for you buck at £35-40k but they are now £45-50k making them less so :-(
Funny...I have a 2016 Mustang GT w/manual transmission and I get 29mpg when I want. It’s quite a fuel efficient car when you understand the engine technology and how to extract it.
I'm sure I could have got better MPG by adjusting my driving. I just stated what the MPG was whilst I had the car for the day.
which is a dishonest assessment of ownership and everyday use.
Nothing dishonest about that 😳
I have a '16 GT also and get 13, lol. I can't resist putting my foot down
Some thing wrong with it ;-) Try second gear lol
In Australia and Europe we get the Ecooboost premium performance package standard . Americans on here winging about the price . Because the basic American ecoobost spec version is a shitbox with cloth trim , aircon , shit brakes , basic stereo for $26000usd without taxes . The package we get out of the states is $35000usd in usa without taxes . premium package adds $4000usd , performance package $2,500usd . American spec Base gt with cloth trim , aircon , basic stereo , 4 piston brakes $35,500 usd without taxes . Gt premium performance gets leather trim , upgraded sound system , 6 piston brembos ' front lip , limited slip diff ' spoiler , 20 inch black mags is $44000usd in the states
A really good, honest & knowledgeable review. To allay your concerns about MPG, I have done 9000 miles in a V8 convertible 2018 facelift Mustang averaging 26 MPG (average speed 35mph).
That's pretty good. Glad you enjoyed the review :-)
First time on the channel, love the content, presentation, and personality! Seems like a very personable channel unlike most! I'll sub and manually keep an eye out for new videos that are posted!
That is great to hear. Welcome, it's great to have you along for the ride :-)
Just viewed this I can only say I am on my second uk spec manual GT previous was a 2017 now a 2019 with magneride which does encourage you to use potential of the coyote plus the active exhaust is a rather addictive soundtrack but never managed to get the mpg as low as that
Hi Peter.
Great review.
Regarding the long gearing/slow to rev element, there's a reason that doesn't get talked about much for the European import veraions of the Mustang. All European Mustang imports have the 3:55 final drive, whereas in the states the performance options of GT and Bullitt come with 3:93 (and can order 4:09). This transforms these V8s both in willingness to rev in gear, smashing you in the seat, and plain fun! Lowers the MPG even further though, hence only 3:55 in Europe. One of the best mods you can do to these Mustangs in UK for big performance and fun improvement though is swap the rear end ratio for the 3.93 (and have the ecu coded for the different axle, its a drop down option with the right plugin).
I ❤️ the look of it, and the V8 sound. but that's where it ends for me. Good review, as usual 😀😀😀
Cheers Lydia :-)
It sounds slightly different and I wonder if it’s to do with the petrol particulate filter fitted???
Beautiful car Peter. Love the colour and it has that retro feel. It sounds amazing. The mpg was a shocker. The bullet version looks absolutely stunning.
I think the mpg could be improved if you didn't drive it like you stole it :-)
I've been monitoring my mpg since I got the car and I've averaged 17mpg in total over 2000 miles. That's with a lot of hooning around... I don't really drive conservitively :)
My 2018 10spd auto will return 26.7 mpg on the highway if you can stand not putting your foot in it. Averages 23.4 combined.
Great review mate! Always liked these and much better with a manual ;)
The manual box was excellent !
After six weeks of hospital confinement it’s good to be back to see what was up for review this week Peter. I have to say I like the looks, even the wet nappy colour suits it (for me). The sound from the small block V8 is glorious, although I would be interested in seeing how they’ve up the Bhp to 440, earlier models bragged about big numbers but were often no where near in real time. Interior looks a relatively nice place to be, quite refined again compared to previous models. It’s a big lump to go throwing around on typical U.K. B roads, especially with wet leaves carpeting/disguising the pitfalls of too much right foot, arse end deciding to break away & hang out, possibly requiring some fresh pairs of underpants being stashed away in the glove box for the occasional “oh shite” moments.
Sounds a lot of money needs to be invested to get it “right” with regards to the chassis/suspension components. Those consumption numbers are a bit on the low side, certainly worse than I have achieved from earlier versions on the 5 litre Ford V8’s.
Horses (pony’s) for courses I guess. I’ll stay with the European brands, that offer vehicles better suited to our needs. Now if I was driving the Pacific Coast Highway for my daily commute, I might be persuaded. Nice review mate & good to be home convalescing after six week trip to hell & back.
Cheers
Geof
Good to see you back 👍🏁
Hi Geof. Great to have you back in the comments. You've been missed mate and I hope you are feeling better and on your way to a full recovery :-)
Thanks guys it’s going to be a slow journey back.
Love the V8!! I finally got to drive one in May this year, soft top, in red with black leather. An utter joy to drive!! The auto box in the one I had was smooth as smooth can be and the noise!! I'll never forget it, that's for sure. Even at low speed it just burbled away. As James May once said, "it gave me the fizz!!" The US speck one have remote start and that was very welcome as it kicked in the A/C from 300 meters away, but the car stayed locked till it picked up on the key being next to the car and you opened it via the door handle. I have a short video on my channel showing the remote start feature doing a cold start..... Feel free to check it out. I'm seriously adding the manual GT to my future shopping list!!
What does the UK have against shoulders on the road? Where do you pull over if, for example, you run out of fuel?
We have a trend towards ‘smart motorways’ that use the shoulder as a live lane in busy traffic. If the have to stop sensors detect this and close the lane to protect you. A terrible idea 😂
Enjoyed the review. I have 2017 GT convertible. Cruise between Melbourne and Sydney will get 32 mpg or 8.6 /100 km.
Ok for new V8 Auto with additional drag of top down.
About 22 mpg or 11.4 around town.
Sync 3 you said was new is fitted to most 15-17 Mustangs - mid life upgrade.
My bad, thanks for the correction :-)
Mustang 5.0 manual or M4 Evo Comp - both same price with similar residuals... which would you pick 🤔
That’s easy…M4 👍
Fantastically honest video, I enjoyed that and find myself completely agreeing with you!
Cheers Harri :-)
Finally someone uses 1080/60 for a mustang video...it shows more detail
I have the 2017 stang GT. Your feedback is spot on.
For me it’s the about the V8 experience and heritage. However, I do regret not getting a B road Roadster/Hot hatch. There’s little confidence in the Stang on those corners and yes you can tune to “smooth the edges”, but it’s already cost a few happy marriage months 😉.
Having said that - my pony makes me smile every time I start the Coyote and noise it make is pure music to my ears.
Ps I won’t be changing for another mustang.
This comment did make me smile. Glad I was on the right page :-)
Great video man, I do love the mustang but here in Ireland the GT starts at 77 grand so for the time being these videos keep me entertained, thanks
OUCH !!!!!!
That’s exactly what we felt, slightly bulky feel on our roads. Not as sharp as others. Still love the Bullet version.
Great review a lot of car for the money.
👍
Don't worry about 11mpg, a Jeep dealer gave me a 1.1 fiesta (U.K./European fiesta) and that did no better than 22mpg real world - driven the same way as I drove my Grand Cherokee..
Great test and the point of the car is that it puts a smile on your face! Personally I'd go for the new 10 speed auto and adjustable suspension on busy UK roads.
I'd like to try the Magnaride :-)
Great, honest review Pete, thanks.
To be honest the Mustang's never been my kind of car even though I love V8s. 11mpg!!! My old XJR would get 15mpg when you drove it like it was on fire and my previous shape XF-R would do 16mpg balls-out and 28mpg on a gentle run.
Progress eh...
John S14a What xjr did you have
@@iantownsend500 X358. Great car, much underrated.
John S14a Fair play I love Jags especially the XJR’s
Considering it weighs are much as a house, I got 27 mpg highway in a 2018 GT premium convertible with the auto. I must say, that's pretty damn impressive!
Pretty good Sir !
I'm sorry but i have to say you are not fully correct with one or two of your statements.. the interior is not a million miles away from the "old" car, in fact most of it is the same. The steering wheel is different in that they swapped all the audio/phone controls left to right?? Why??
My '17 has the Sync 3 and I can't see any difference to the unit fitted to that car? The engine now has DI, plated bores a dual mass flywheel and the gearbox has aluminium shift forks. There are TSB's in the States for at least two of these items failing My '17 has no DI, iron liners, a solid flywheel and steel shift forks. Is the '18 better?? uhh no!! I just wish we had the Recaro option in 2017.
I think the one big let down for this and all Mustangs is the poor dealer network. Go look at the UK forums to see what I mean.
Great review Pete.
Thanks Colin :-)
Not overly impressed with your review! I ordered my 5.0 GT (manual) in 2018 with the premium package, it was the last of the pre face lift (2017) and came in at £38k, I love the car it’s an everyday car and I’m getting around 20mpg mostly round town 24+ on a long motorway run ,and I’m not driving miss daisy if you get my drift! If I wanted the extra luxury you talk about I would buy a merc or BMW but then for the same engine size I would be paying another £30-£40 grand on top of the £38! Yes I agree with you on the face lift price, Ford have shot themselves in the foot. The one thing I didn’t expect was the attention the car gets! Pull up at the lights next to a BMW M4 etc. and it’s the Mustang that get the attention! All in all it’s a great car and I have never looked back buying it , a couple of things you didn’t mention, on a brand new Mustang the first years road tax was £1000 and £150 a year there after but any vehicle over £40k attracts a £350 road tax premium on top of the £150 a year ! Hence I made sure the salesman got it under the £40k mark .
Great review as always, would you rate this as good as the f-type v6 or v8?
No. They are in a different league 😬
The way this video started I thought you would compare the new automatic to the old one. It'd be interesting to see the difference as it's a new box. The manual is afaik new, too, and the gear changes are now supposedly less clunky. What was your experience?
This manual is great, I've not driven the old one so can't compare :-(
Great review as always Peter, I considered one to replace my Lexus ISF but I can’t justify the price jump. Plus after 3 years I really know my car and it’s perfect for me.
The Lexus ISF is a mega car :-)
Petrol Ped That’s high praise coming from you, it’s 10 years old and drives like a new car and the Hayward and Scott catback I have fitted makes it sound like a muscle car but will quietly burble along on cruise. Would love you to drive it one day. Maybe at one of your future meets perhaps?
Honest review m8! 👍
Cheers :-)
Thank you for your very interesting take on the Mustang. I’m fortunate to own one here in the States: a 2018 Mustang GT premium, with magna-ride and active exhaust. Another commenter thought those sold in the UK were detuned versions. Don’t know why that would be, but I can add that mine is rated at 460 horses , not 430! So there may be something to that claim. Also, I average 20.2 mpg......but that’s probably because I drive conservatively. Like most 67 year olds, I suppose. 😎 Just saying. Thanks again.
Cool car Richard. Enjoy !
They're not detuned - it's the right hand drive conversion that lowers the horsepower for the UK. They have to put a nasty kink in the exhaust manifold to make the steering column fit.
I have the 2017 and I get around 9-litres/100-km on the highway (30-mile/UK gallon). In town, just over 12-Litres/100-km... Perhaps you should be called "Lead" Ped...? Lets face it, you smiled through the whole review and the Mustang is a lot cheaper than a Mercedes or BMW, that are over priced and over rated in Canada/US.
The Mustang is a "looker", 2017 or 2018. There aren't many tight roads around Calgary but the car is a great drive and comfortable.
I'm not saying I didn't like driving it, it's just not a car I would buy but I understand why people do :-)
Greenpeace would love this car.
Oh yeah...they'd love it :-)
Get it right they don't like any car :-/
It comes in need for green too ...... never please some folks
F greenpeace
Great review Ped. The American mustangs are honestly a lot better than the ones we get in the Uk. I’ve driven both and there is a difference. Think ours is slightly detuned.
I just think driving a Mustang in the US sits better than driving one in the UK, a bit like riding a Harley ;-)
Yes the exhaust header system is a bit restricted because of the right hand drive compared to the North American cars. Our cars make 460hp in North America.
Jamie Bester your Cars also sound better than ours.
Looks better with the facelift. Looks like a lot of fun to drive 👍
It was great fun to drive :-)
Ford should bring the GT350 to Europe for once!
Agreed :-)
It has the American feel big time. Not been lost.
Nice a big satsuma with wheels. Can’t beat a V8 Great review Peter.👍🏁🏁
LOL !
I enjoy your road tests very much. I hope you have an opportunity to test the 2.3 Mustang . You tested the 2.0 F type Jag and found the handling lighter and more responsive in the 4 pot, than the V8 and V6...It would be interesting to hear your observations on the 2.3 compared to the 5.0 GT.
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Fantastic review as always.
I have been really considering a Mustang GT and especially the Bullitt as I've always loved them, however I've been unsure about it in terms of fuel economy and build quality etc. I don't know how I would cope after being used to the build quality and interior etc of my Mercedes CLS.
Your honest review has gave me more information to think about and I value your opinion. I agree with the price issue compared to other cars that I could get for that money. I just love a big V8. Cheers mate.
You should go and have a drive of one. If nothing else it would be great fun :-)
Petrol Ped cheers, will do 😉👍🏻
Every mustang review: driver stops talking, Mashes the throttle, smile grows with engine sound to redline, then Laughter. then huge laughter. We can buy these cars two years old for 25,000 USD drive them for 2 years for about $7000 then repeat. Bargin Daily driver fun for everyone with a job.
Certainly a good fun drive 👍
Great honest review Pete! Still can’t make my mind up on whether I like the car. I love the sound but I prefer a fast revving engine and something you can take by the scruff off the neck on a good B road
Petrol Ped, I never saw you actually get serious with the throttle, as I'm sure you were changing up by ear. The manual NEEDS a 3.73 rear end ratio in the UK, otherwise the gearing is too tall. This bad boy revs to 7,500 and just keeps making power till at LEAST 7,000. In no way is it a slow revving engine !!
Just purchased the 2019 GT. with PP1 package. 460 HP with a 10-speed auto trans. Same as the Vette trans. 355 gears really adds to the 1/4 mile launch. Much improvement over the 2018. Sold car overall.
Sounds like an awesome car :-)
I didn’t think it was that quick either, I had the new facelift 5.0 in LA and drove from San Francisco to Santa Monica. The auto is quite slow compared to my 2018 jcw auto. I loved the sound though and good to drive slowly or cruise especially with that v8 sound
Oh yes, nice summary :-)
Thinking of upgrading from my JCW to this, thoughts?
Must be one of the first uk reviews of this brilliant car - nice work
Thank you. It's always great to get a car early :-)
Great review. Think you summed it up perfectly. It would be a great 37k car. At that price the chancellor would be thanking you for filling his coffers even more than you already would will your fuel
Cheers Dave :-)
Did you reset the dash before the review to get an accurate avg mpg reading
Yep :-)
Wow I got the previous gt shadow edition in manual , and avg 21/22
In comparison , so does my bro evo x do 22mpg ???? 4cyl ???
I’m happy with that
The new 10 speed auto co developed with chevy is awesome, the 6 speed manual has
a major problem with the 3rd and 4th shift fork breaking under heavy use
You missed out on the two most significant updates which are the 10R80 and the Magneride as you stated in the video. Those two options do really transform the car.
Add some suspension/chassi parts for 1500gbp and it is a real joy. Here in Sweden an m3/m4/c63 are some 30k+GBP more compared to a Mustang with the 10r80 and the Magneride.
My average for the 4800 miles I have driven is 18.3. It is my daily commute car. At highway speeds I easily get 26mpg
I'm sure they do but as I said, I can't comment as the test car didn't have them :-(
Either way you had a smile on your face for the whole film.
I did indeed :-)
I think the mid life facelift looks a lot better especially the front end however at that price point it falls short in many areas compared to the equivalent BM or Audi. Close but no cigar a bit like the Kia Stinger review you filmed. Great review as always👍👍👍
You could get a new Audi S4 for the same money :-0
What a boring choice the S4 would be in comparison 🙄
How on earth did I miss this first time around!?
Not sure 😂
Just back from a trip to the UK and I was blown away by the number of Mustangs I saw both in England and Wales. Although they have new GT performance packs in the US, the GT350 though still seems to be the one to drool over (has the Tremec shifter, which is not available even in the highest spec GT).
I’m sorry you just don’t get it! I have the pre face lift model in 6 speed manual from new and in 5 years apart from annual service I’ve just this month replaced the battery and that’s the only issue I’ve had in 5 years, and I don’t drive it like miss daisy! and speaking as a professional driver this is one of the best cars I’ve had for the thrill of driving, if you want the “panache” as in a Merc or BMW you would pay over 40k on top of the 40k you pay from the Mustang !! And driving it very hard I’m getting 18 - 20 round town as a daily drive and 26-27 on a long motorway journey. A fantastic car with a fantastic pedigree, worth every penny.
Nice review as ever, I can not decide if I like the car , it sounds good, looks good but it’s just the characteristics of the engine I am not sure about. A lazy engine is great for wide roads and cruising but B roads not sure. I know you said not the eco boost engine but I am wondering if that would be better for the type of roads you were on, it would rev more freely and might be a bit more fun although without the v8 rumble. After our little adventure in the i30n at that weekend that sounds great and is great to rev out the engine and having to work the gearbox so a bit of an opposite view. Having not driven either cars I would actually go for the eco boost, get the adaptive suspension and see if there is an aftermarket tune. Cheaper, looks as good, better mpg (my review without having even seen, sat in or driven the car 😂)
Showing good skill there mate. You should pitch that to Ford :-)
glock22357 it’s interesting that over in the uk we have sort of the same car but the US version is possibly better from what you have said. Would like to review the eco boost version. Do you get the eco boost over there and do you own 1, you certainly know you stuff
@@PetrolPed If you could get a 2018-2019 Mustang GT PP2 with the American engine and transmission/rear differential gear ratios, I think you would find it more to your taste.
The ecoboost is worse on fuel!! I have driven it on the same test run as the V8 and the V8 used 2 litres per 100 km less, also the resale values are sh## because people want the V8
Nice video Pete. Very well done. For that kind of money I’d rather by a suv or a pickup truck. By the way what brand of pickup trucks can you buy over there? Also will you ever review a pickup truck for the fun of it?!
I should give a Pick-up a go :-)
Unless you're a construction worker, nobody needs a pickup truck.
2019 Mustang GT PP2 and I get 16.9 around Atlanta with 93 octane.
Hello, great video, I have actually been considering going for a test drive in the V8 mustang but I am not sure after your video it is the right car for me, as my focus RS is great around corners and its really fun to drive. I suspect I would be better off staying with the RS.
I've driven both and I'd have the RS every time...such a better car :-)
Petrol Ped thank you, really do appreciate your opinion. 🙂
Where are you getting your performance figures from? The HP is 460 and the torque 420.
You can find why that is, I believe it's due to the exhaust being restricted from it going from LHD to RHD.
Careful people . Water collects inside the doors big time in these vehicles . Make sure you dont get blocked drainage holes. We had undriven new vehicles stored in the compound and they had gallons of water in the doors.
Wow !
I have never seen one in real life. In the Netherlands it is twice the price of the UK because of CO2 tax. Besides that, I see on UA-cam that the 2018 and even the 2019 Mustang transmissions (automatic and manual) frequently break down very soon. So I think that was worth a mention. It is so bad, that it seems that there are not even spare parts anymore.
Good review but I wish you could have done a review with the magnaride version.....you might have found a difference!
Hi Ped
Another good review. Must admit it appeals but not at that price. Think it might be a tempting buy used in two years time.
I have a feeling these will be good value in 12-18 months time :-)
Good review
Cheers Ron :-)
Had a 4.0l Chimaera, it certainly could be a brute, and that was the baby of the pack, at £15k it seems a bargain compared to the Mustang, no electronic wizardry to be had, but that’s why I loved it, seat of the pants driving is a understatement!
No ABS or traction control on the bad boy...BRILLIANT :-)
I hear that over time the 6 speed manual gearbox isn't that great, there are kits to make it shift better and they help you from missing shifts and grinding gears and what not since the Getrag MT82 is the weakest link in the driveline. A Barton Hybrid 3 short throw shifter with its trans mounted brace fixes a lot of issues.
idk why they didn't just put a tremec in it
Stunning colour fella
With sun glasses on !
Agree entirely with you on this review. Looks improved , aural satisfaction but when Ford europe`s own products have such beautifully balanced ride/handling , thinking my S-Max TX sport and how great the same spec Mondeo estate was , so stable at high speed cornering its a shame you have to go to adaptive handling package to improve this ,out the box!
The Eco Boost version is more fun to drive as it has less heavy engine and therefore better driving characteristics, so therefore it is better in the corners . As it is less heavy, it is almost as fast as 5L, and one can also exchange exhaust systems at Eco Boost that also sounds pretty good indeed.
A little like the 2.0L Jaguar F Type then :-)
Yes, when it comes to the sound, it probably does, but have not tried that Jaguar yet, but will try it soon! Thanks for a good review!
They sound burble tang tastic. Especially when ya sat in the back.
Thanks Peter.
No worries Buddy :-)
Great vid Pp, I have to say that a fast Ford has always been meant for the blue collar worker so the normal joe bloggs like me can get into something with some GO. 45K is too much, If I had a Stang it would have to be the GT350.
I don't know if it's offered where you are, but the one to get is the Performance Pack 2 Mustang GT 5.0. The package includes magneride, 6-piston big front brakes, larger radiator, spoiler, GT350-sized wheels and tires, vacuum and oil gauages (GT350), and track springs and stabilizers, and is about 2% faster on most tracks compared to a regular GT like the one you are driving. In the USA the package is $6500 atop a GT Premium but it makes the car drive like a Shelby GT350. USA Price = $49,000 and it's better than a Bullitt on a track.
I looked long and hard at this car, then I got a Tesla Performance Model 3 which can roast this car in everything below 100 mph - safer - with much better stereo & mileage ...
The best Mustang is the Shelby GT350R which is a different animal altogether. Flat plane 5.2L V8 with 526hp. Revs to 8,500 RPM and handles very well with a high RPM wail that is ear piercing. Pricing starts around $58 grand in the U.S., and is actually a bargain for what comes with that.
Only trouble would be the American spec wouldn’t be what we get here, the Bullitts have been downgraded with lots of bits and power missing.
Not sure we will be seeing that here :-(
Another great review, Peter, but I really don’t see the Mustang fits UK roads. Its sounds superb as you’d expect, but its too wide for our type of roads and insufficiently responsive for them, too. Great on US highways though, and I can understand its appeal.
If I had that sort of money, I’d be looking for an M4 or similar.
On a different note, when are you going to try a tarmac-spec MG Metro 6R4..? Or Lancia Delta S4..?
Answer to your question...in my dreams ;-)
Petrol Ped - I’m sure if you ask someone nicely in the Group B car club, they might let you have a play with a Clubman spec 6R4?? Or even an International spec if someone in the Club has one. Or you could try for a works Quattro as well..? Aim high and see what you get..!
Interesting to see the pricing in the UK is on par or somewhat higher than what we are paying in Australia for the same right hand drive car - both seem to be a huge premium over the US prices. And seems the UK version is similar to Aus in that the only V8 model is the GT "Premium", "Sport Pack" - which means as standard you get Digital dash, Brembo brakes, heated./cooled seats, multi-mode exhaust etc - all of which are options in the US.
Your comparison with the earlier model is ok, but to be fair you should have gone another auto (10sp) to do a truer comparison. The 6 speed is the same as it was in the 17 so your old one would have probably felt much the same as the 18 had it of been a manual.
I've heard to 10sp is really good. I will try to get hold of one :-)
For 2018, the clutch has been changed to the twin disk type and the gear ratios are a bit different. I know that 4th gear is 1:1, with 5 and 6 being overdrive gears. The injection system on the 5.0 has also been changed to a dual port and direct injection setup. In the US, the GT can be had in base trim with cloth seats, steam gauges, standard exhaust , 4 piston brakes, and 18" wheels. The right hand drive models are rated at a bit less HP due to the way in which the exhaust must be routed. The US spec model is rated at 460 HP for 2018. A US spec base model GT runs ~$35K sticker, and even less with dealer discounting and promotions often bringing the price to under $30K. For the money, the base model is a real performance bargain. I love mine :)
Many testers are preferring the 10-spd auto - and there are reliability issues with the manual, with the shifter forks now made from aluminium instead of steel - they are starting to break quite often. Try the auto - it's much better than the old auto box. As for driving/handling "panache", the Magnetic suspension option is a must-have - a game changer. Delete the Recaros, not worth the money over the standard seats, and no heating/cooling.
What exactly would you like to be improved about the car?
Klasse Act - Sell it and get a decent, 3 year old, 2nd hand European car :-))
@@thezanzibarbarian5729 Interior needs a bit of love
Supercharged HEMI - Agreed. The exteriors not bad though. Quite nice. But the interior. Hmmm... Sort of harking back to the mid '90's. Which is quite surprising considering that the "Euro" Fords are pretty decent inside!!
LMFAO if you don't keep up mustags you will never know
Slightly better composure in the corners. Now Magnaride may well do that but it wasn't fitted to this car. I'd also want a slightly more refined interior. It just felt like a sledgehammer to crack a nut...I guess that might be the whole point of the car though ;-)
Well that wasn't a bad review at all ofcourse when you are looking at it from Australia or any other country you need to read between the lines a bit but I really enjoyed it. Australia bought 9000 mustangs last year and it's still without any competition from Gm or Chrysler so it has a free reign over here but look I'll have to check out more of your video's
LOL. Its tricky doing a review when I think about all the different countries it could be watched in. Very cool that you are watching from the other side of the world :-)
@@PetrolPed well we don't have any local content here unless it's filmed at a race track because iff you post a video of yourself driving over the speed limits they will go to the trouble of tracking you down to fine you or whatever those little burnouts you were doing would probably cost you your license in Victoria or Queensland and it's very common for cops to demand your phone so they can look at the memory in case you and your mates are recording each other enjoying your cars. The only vision of people hooning around in cars is old footage from the 80s so there's plenty of opportunity for you here and as we don't have our own car industry any more most of the performance cars that you can get your hands on we can buy here except left hand drive so go for it
The car is a rich man's dinosaur now.
Ten speeds are always better than six. I just bought a 2020 with the auto. This transmission always has the motor in the sweet spot. If you prefer shifting over speed get the manual.
Very interesting presentation of this new mustang...i’m a Huge fan of the color. And What a noise !!! Definitively go for a V8
The colour looks great in the flesh !
Ewww the colour reminds me of a bag of Wotsits. The only other car I have seen in a similar colour was a Mini 🤢
I think I'd have a Mustang in any colour except this one. I do love the car itself.
Why did they increase the price for just a facelift?
It's a bit more than just a facelift 👍
It will be interesting when the Bullitts eventually turn up to see how they are by comparison, lots of reviews really like the MR suspension, but as you say it does push the price up. Mines on order with MR ,due in Dec, ford say they have all been sold.
It's a shame though, that the Bullit has been detuned compared to the US spec. Apparently has less horsepower which is the same for this 5.0. Something to do with UK regulations, but congrats on your new car. I like how you decided to purchase something out of the norm that pretty much most of us won't even be lucky enough to see on the road (assuming you're in the UK)
In the USA bullitts make 480hp then you got the supercharged bullitts that make 750hp 6 speed only
Is it the Bullet you have on order ? If so, lucky you :-)
WOW !
Petrol Ped , yes it’s a Bullitt, I ordered it in June, thinking it was going to be unique car like my Escort Cosworth in 94, unfortunately Ford have downgraded the speciation for us, with bits missing that it’s being advertised with, so I with many others waiting are in two minds whether to go ahead, I didn’t want a green GT Mustang with some Bullitt badges 😩. Waiting for first one’s to arrive and see some reviews, or it for real, some should be with customers early October.
Good review Pete, my mum's ex boyfriend had a convertible mustang back in the 80s and it sounded fab but really awful around corners. I wouldnt buy one just for the cost and build quality. I'd rather buy a second hand Aston Martin Rapide for the same price.
Nice car ;-)
Mine gets, 18 MPG. And that’s beating the hell out of it and with normal driving. That’s my daily driving habit.
Love it :-)
Hmm tough choice....do I take the hybrid or the V8 ‘stang today 😁 Love these, could never buy one though. Some how they feel slightly awkward in the UK surroundings rather than their US habitat. Great video though 👍
A bit like a Harley Davidson ?!
Funnily enough I think Harleys look OK. There is something about the size and the proportions of this coupe that are just a bit bigger than the norm and it just looks a bit oversize in the UK but on wide US roads and big surroundings it works much better. A bit like an adult on a ride in a kids theme park
I'm not sure what you're on about. I have a 2018 manual with magneride and easily get 32 mpg if I use the ACC or nurse the go pedal on longer runs.
The car comes alive over 4000 rpm and is simply unrivalled on UK roads at its price point.
Not sure about your last point. Unrivalled on UK roads at that price point ? An Audi S4 or S5 to name but one German competitor ;-)
I would love to see you do another review with the ECO Boost 2.3. The balance and feel are really better and the 310 HP is not really a letdown with the 200+ LB lighter nose.
I really should :-)
That doesn't matter much when the car still weighs over 1600kg. I did an hour long test drive with an Ecoboost Mustang a few years ago and it does not make you feel you are in a vehicle that has over 300 horsepower, unless you downshift all the time
If you're buying a Mustang, it should be a V8. Can't afford one? Get a second hand/older model V8.