Smart Machines (Gym Monster) vs Dumb Machine (Lever Gym): Thoughts / Updates
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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Answering some questions comparing a Speediance Gym Monster to a lever gym and providing some thoughts on smart "e-gym" machines versus plate loaded machines.
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0:00 - Intro
1:29 - Smart Gyms
4:00 - Plate loaded machines
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A note on the lever gym;
I have owned two of the full sized (3 station) Powertec branded levergyms.
I have also owned one of the compact (single station) versions that was a clone of the Powertec version.
All three of those machines were made of larger diameter steel tubing than the one you have there. They were also comprised of single-piece sections, so that gap in the upright literally doesn't exist in the ones I owned because the entire segment was one piece, rather than two pieces linked together. The disadvantage is that each piece of the gym (when assembling it) is larger and heavier. The huge benefit, though, is that the machine is much more sturdy and can handle much more weight, use, and abuse.
I am assuming yours was designed the way it was in order to prioritize easy, cheap shipping (Amazon?).
Obviously, overall the machines will all function the same. But when it comes to that specific "con", it is definitely unique to your specific machine, not lever gyms as a whole.
Great comment. That's why I plan on going with Powertec.
Thanks as always Skyler for the input and valuable comments. Yes, definitely this is a "budget" lever gym. I should have definitely reminded people of that in the video.
I really appreciate your comparisons and comments on devices such as these. You answer a lot of the questions I have about them. One of the points of interest I have about the e-gyms is the ability one may have to increase the eccentric resistance in relation to the concentric for each repetition. At the first World Gym owners convention back in''87(?), Larry Scott was showcasing a line of electronic Lifecycle strength machines. He set the bicep curl to deliver 25% more eccentric resistance than the concentric, and ran me through one set of curls to failure. The next day, I couldn't comb my hair. One thing I noticed when you were doing a vertical press on the Lever gym, the forward angle was such, it looks like I could do a shoulder press, even with my Frozen Shoulder. I have found that with the x3 bar, if I use an underhand grip, I can get it almost nose level. I am also considering getting a Landmine device and a bar. Thanks again, Mike.
You probably got some great stories if you were at the first worlds gym owners convention. And yes, I think that lever gym press would feel great with people with bad shoulders. I actually prefer using a neutral grip for mine.
@@hybridresistance Yes, and some I can't mention. When I was still working at 24 Hour Nautilus, the most comfortable machine to use for overhead presses was the Compound Shoulder. It used a neutral grip.
There are so many issues I dislike about “smart” gyms but to keep things simple, some of us who work with tech, computers, in front of screens all day NEED a mental break from monotonous button mashing, scrolling, ****-ing updates, etc. I like lifting weights and running to escape/take a break from work
This is a very good point!
Wow, great home gym where you have such a selection of riches to workout with. Anyway, what could be helpful is if you post videos of a full body workout on each machine, so that we can evaluate the options. Not a follow along, but an abbreviated workout video that shows a full body rundown of each. Just a thought.
Thank you. That is a great point, I would actually point people towards each review video that I did of these machines which I linked down below. In those videos, I tried to capture a variety of what I feel are the best exercises on each machine.
I think the lever gym is much better buy, even after the cost of plates which last time I checked they went down a bit. If I had the room I might potentially consider it. I also agree that going to failure with the e-gym is potentially a dangerous situation. And I think even though your loosing some resistance, because of the lever gyms lever system, I do think it’s much safer, and you can load on more than 220. With the exception for pull ups as you said, it might just be a factory defect. You could definitely do total body on it. Still think a barbell, some dumbbells, or a adjustable one, some bands, and some kind of cable machine, like a TG are where it’s at. Put I do like the lever gym, maybe one day. God bless bro.
Thanks man. I’d say it depends on the person, but I’m right there with you that the lever gym might be the overall winner when you consider budget and core needs of people in their home gym.
Great stuff as usual mike!! Thanks for that. I’ve had the speediance for 2M now and I am with u on everything. It does add up so little that I end up not even bothering turning it on. Let’s get on with a good mix of long lasting versatile touchable and useful pieces of equipment. Quick and dirty examples: Ironmaster, Clench fitness, Rep fitness, Prx, powertec. Thanks!!
Thanks so much. Great to hear that insight from someone that has a speediance.
My equipment consists of a Rep PR5000 Athena dual Selectorized 4 post setup with a Selectorized Lat Low Row this is a compact setup that I did and I have the Gym Monster and X3 system and other band stuff. The speediance unbalance that is felt can be because it uses 2 separate motors. Other e gyms that I have used only had one motor and doing exercises were 100% smoother. A lot more owners of the Gym monster are finally coming out against the ring and I am glad to hear that. I can’t stand that ring, I accidentally and constantly hit the knob that adjusts the resistance without me waiting to do so. I’ve tried to wear the ring differently but it still continues. I have read on speediance FB page weeks ago supposedly they are coming out with smart handles again , I’m hoping they do.
that lever gym is great because of the versatility, so many exercises, i rather have that,some dumbells,barbells so that would be my choice,both are nice but for those on a budget u cant lose with the leverage gym,thanks mike
Cool to have both doing HIT. If I had them, I'd pre-exhaustion superset - isolation on smart gym, followed by multi-joint on lever gym.
You nailed it right there.
A lever gym is definitely a winner. But the weight of the lever gym could definitely be a deal breaker for someone like me that needs to have less weight on the floor of my house.
This is true for sure. This lever gym wasn't a horrible build, but not one that I'd want to break down and do again if I didn't have to. The ability to roll and bring the Gym Monster in my house or the garage is a huge selling point.
@@hybridresistance I heard they are a pain to assemble I can’t imagine breaking it down again
@@mrqualityreviewer4752 this is very true
I would love to have the budget and space for all the equipment you have. It is tough working out in a small space. I have selctech dumbbells ,resistance bands, sliders for core exercises and an ab wheel. I have to be very resourceful. We also have a total gym and an ancient bowflex.
That's a solid set up and one that you can still do a lot damage with.
Thank you for providing this comparison. I have tried some of the "Smart" machines and decided to go with something else to add to my rack, barbell, dumbbells and bench. I really like what the "Dumb" lever machine has to offer. Is there an upgrade option that you would recommend?
Thanks Marcus. Are you talking about an "upgrade" to the lever gym? If so, not with this one, but for sure with the PowerTec Version.
@@hybridresistanceSorry I was not clear. Yes, I was referring to the lever gym. I have never used the PowerTec, and I am not really all that familiar with it. It looks like the full version has a very large footprint. So, I was hoping there was something like the machine you have but with more premium materials and build quality.
The Lever Gym *may be* a better buy if space is not an issue and one does not want to change plates for a given exercise. I wanted the Speediance due to VERY limited space, and I rather not have to store and change plates. I ended up with Inspire FTX functional trainer that I really enojoy using ($1K at Costco). I consider myself creative when it comes to resistance training, so if I need weights that my machine don't do, I find a way that's conveniant and works. After all, weight is weight. My other resistance workout gear include a 50Lb weight vest, PowerBlocks up to 90Lbs.
I heard about those at Costco. Sounds like a very solid deal / machine.
Were the winners announced for the giveaway? Personally I’d want both types of machines for variety but I’m poor lol so my 100$ Cap squat rack, pulley cable and free weights have to do. And my portable pull up bar similar to the ifit you reviewed, bands and ankle weights have to do when away from home. Nice video.
Yes they were in that videos comment section I reached out them. Honestly that set up is all you need right there. Thanks again for watching Jaleesa
If I found a total gym fit slider with the weight bar would it fit on a gr8flex?
Unfortunately no
@@hybridresistance ok thanks
Total Gym Fit is not cheap...but would you prefer your leverage gym over it to build more muscle? (Still got some plates)
Probably not as versatile and quick to transition exercises, but I would say a lever gym beats a TG over muscle / strength building potential because of the many ways to progressively increase resistance.
You getting the Flexicon?
I'm on the fence a little bit to be honest.
Great video as usual. I gotta say the nay-no to anything supposedly "smart". I think it just overcomplicates what is supposed to be simple....kinda like how calculators made American kids super buffoonish. lol I mean..I'd take a Speediance if someone wanted to give me one, though. lol I doubt I'd use it much. Before long, you won't even have personal knowledge to draw from as these machines are going to correct your posture, your technique, show you the most beneficial movement, etc. I don't find digitization of anything to be good in the long run. We'll end up mindless zombies doing what the AI tells us is best culminating in our being Automoneggers or Automomentzers.😂😂💯💯 Ain't nobody got time for dat!
The computer/phone you're replying is the same concept. Sooooooo.....whada say to that?
@@mr.c6674 I say it sucks too, buddy. 😂😂👏👏 I don't have a cellphone. It definitely is the same concept, but here's the kicker. I don't work out with my computer either. so...not really relevant. 🤷♂🤷♂ I might watch a video for reference, but I'm not standing next to my PC following along. So, I see your point...if I were one of those people with a phone up his arse all the time. I'm not. lol What I do is no different from reading a book for reference. I'm not letting a digital program run things. I run them.
Also, what about electricity and the internet? What about an outage? Whada say to that? Whatever that means, amigo.🥶🥶
We need to get you a UA-cam channel my friend. Love having you in the comment section sharing your different perspectives.
@@hybridresistance 😂😂 💗💗 You know...I do try. If we can't have a chuckle now and again, what's it all for?🤷♂🤷♂ Gotta keep those cortisol levels low, Mike. 💪💪 Nightmare on Elm Street 2 Freddy said, "I've got the body, you've got the...brain." Well, in this case...you have the body...and the brain....but I got dem jokes.😂😂
@@shawnpaulzuccarellorizzo you got me laughing with that Elm street quote. In my youth I was a very big horror fan. Dream Warriors I think was favorite, but I can’t tell you how many times I watched part 1
I have a Tonal at my house (along with a crappy barbell set and a set up adjustable dumbbells from Bowflex that go to 90 lbs. each). I really like the Tonal for its build quality and adaptability. I know there are lots of complaints about it having to be installed by Tonal contractors and bolted to studs, but I have no problem with that. I had one issue with the Tonal, and it took a bit of back and forth, and sending them a video of the problem, but they ultimately took care of it to my satisfaction. I've had that for two and a half years. I recently got a Speediance Gym Monster for my office so that I can work out over lunch. While it's far from being as good as the Tonal in terms of build quality, accessory quality, flexibility, etc., it's adequate to meet my lunchtime workout needs. I've only had it for three weeks, so I don't know about its long-term durability. The main shortcomings of the Gym Monster are: since it's not bolted to the floor or wall, several times, I've rocked it while performing lifts; the height of the highest mounting point isn't really high enough to get full extension on lat pull downs and, additionally, it's not directly above. It let's me program my workouts and even program movements, so I've designed two workouts that I alternate, one for upper and one for lower body. The reason for the smart gyms is that I simply don't have room, either at home or at work, for a lever gym. The Tonal takes up, effectively, no room at all when not in use, the Speediance can be folded to a small footprint or conveniently moved in my office. Overall, I'm happy with both choices, though I've spent something like $9K to implement both of them.
Dang you got a spediance just for your office and break while having a tonal. Humble flex 🤑
Thanks for that detailed comment. Can't argue or beat having both of those for access to workouts. Tonal definitely doesn't look bad at all and I'm sure it's plenty functional.
@@jaleesa00 Yeah, I just can't get motivated to get up early and work out before work and I'm way too trashed to work out when I get home, so lunch is really the only thing that works for me to work out every day. I used to use low budget dumbbells and bodyweight, I still do sometimes, but I wanted some way to hit all body parts with good resistance. Like I said, the Speediance is adequate.
interesting to see tat weak point in the lever gym, seems like bad design they could fix with a v2. I wonder if the powertec original has that issue.
I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for watching and the comment.