Lawyer Reacts: Ruby Franke's Husband Interviewed By The Cops + Shocking Journal Entries During Abuse

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  • @cathyweisner2683
    @cathyweisner2683 Місяць тому +270

    I call BS on what Ruby Said at her sentencing. She was abusing her kids long before Jodi showed up. And Kevin allowed it.

    • @r_and_a
      @r_and_a Місяць тому +30

      ruby talking to her sister revealed how manipulative *she* is imo, ruby was working on what would encourage the parole board to support her. she's *just* as bad, *if not worse,* as jodi

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 Місяць тому +13

      Jodi was already involved as a counselor to the kids during all of the controversial 8passangers videos.

    • @r_and_a
      @r_and_a Місяць тому +1

      @@hnraj9441 in *your* opinion on "controversial," *not* everyone's

    • @raqueacevedo1509
      @raqueacevedo1509 Місяць тому +6

      I totally agree with you. Repentance Ruby? BS ..

    • @suebrown7358
      @suebrown7358 Місяць тому +6

      💯 Ruby is so conniving

  • @LittleOrla
    @LittleOrla Місяць тому +95

    There's no way that Ruby has tossed aside her beliefs and suddenly sees the error of her ways. She's a manipulator. I hope they don't let her out, ever. Her children have been given a life sentence. So should she.

    • @cathyhelmuth823
      @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому +3

      No matter how much time both of them serve will never change their beliefs!

  • @gwynhyfer
    @gwynhyfer Місяць тому +127

    Remember the two victims were the kids that had to watch their siblings open Christmas presents while they were given 'the gift of love' to teach them a lesson. That is emotional abuse. And Jodi wasn't any part of that.

    • @2A.Freedom
      @2A.Freedom Місяць тому +34

      Exactly. Ppl trying to put all blame on Jodi. These parents were abusing their kids long before jodi

    • @nancynelms6455
      @nancynelms6455 Місяць тому

      They were not harmed as badly.

    • @Extraterrestrialhighway
      @Extraterrestrialhighway Місяць тому +3

      ​@nancynelms6455 It does not matter. She allowed this to happen which makes her complicit.

    • @gwynhyfer
      @gwynhyfer Місяць тому +9

      @@nancynelms6455 emotional abuse is just as bad for the childrens welfare and it's a stepping stone to more draconian behaviour. Remember they were denied breakfast and she delayed healthcare. In truth I don't think she wanted them. If the physical abuse had continued those children wouldn't be with us. It's pure luck the wounds to the boy hadn't resulted in sepsis or him losing either limb.

    • @lizb8499
      @lizb8499 Місяць тому

      ​@@nancynelms6455What!!!!!?????!!!!! Are you for real? She didn't feed them on a regular basis, took away things like stuffed animals because they loved them, threatened to cut the heads off of said toys because they cut stuff in they house, made them do yard work for hours in the heat without taking a break for water or food, made them watch as the other kids could "enjoy" a kids holiday, take away their beds and clothes, took their identity as a human...... yet they weren't hurt as bad......wtf!!

  • @garvingirl
    @garvingirl Місяць тому +38

    It is shocking that Kevin does not ask any details about the condition of his 2 youngest children, even after hearing that they were found emaciated and were taken to a hospital. He does not ask about the wellbeing of his children in his other interviews either.

  • @TxCarrie
    @TxCarrie Місяць тому +147

    What concerns me is the police explained emaciated to the husband as not favorable to sustain life and he doesn't ask if they're ok. He doesn't ask if they're going to be ok. He seems to only be focused on the wife.

    • @truthhurts2879
      @truthhurts2879 Місяць тому +14

      *emaciated ❤

    • @kendallneason3645
      @kendallneason3645 Місяць тому +22

      Yes that shocked me. He says he loves his wife. The woman who almost unalived his two youngest and Gosh knows what else with the older kids when they were home with Ruby. He doesn’t ask if his kids are ok or where they are. He doesn’t seem to care! It’s shocking. The police sound more outraged and concerned for the kids than their own father! WTH?

    • @griffin2263
      @griffin2263 Місяць тому +26

      shocked me he didnt know what that meant (he being a collage prof )also he did not ask after the children the whole family is so weird

    • @bcoull290
      @bcoull290 Місяць тому +12

      He didn’t ask details about the kids well being. I’m so confused as a mother.

    • @idahardy4052
      @idahardy4052 Місяць тому +10

      I don’t like Kevin and think he’s a weak man, but here I think he was in shock and didn’t really grasp what was happening.

  • @Holly_C_OConnell
    @Holly_C_OConnell Місяць тому +197

    Kevin wanted the daughter (who was trying to help her siblings) to be arrested. WTF?! He is a spineless jellyfish who only cares about Ruby and himself

    • @cheyennespring3455
      @cheyennespring3455 Місяць тому +24

      I wonder what was in HIS papers/computers that he was worried about.

    • @Bess9779
      @Bess9779 Місяць тому +12

      Maybe he was afraid she took the thousands in cash he & Ruby were talking about that was hidden in a bag somewhere in the house. I sure HOPE his daughter found & kept it!!

    • @NJ-Cathie
      @NJ-Cathie Місяць тому

      He is an IDIOT.

    • @dalerose9162
      @dalerose9162 Місяць тому +16

      Apparently it becomes clear in the second police interview. He gets almost emotional about something he calls The Pen Papers. Weird creepy cult stuff about Jodi's and Ruby's "visions".

    • @kendallneason3645
      @kendallneason3645 Місяць тому +21

      I agree. The fact their two elder teens ran from both parents as fast as they could is telling.

  • @davewade30
    @davewade30 Місяць тому +33

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire

    • @Cynt12345
      @Cynt12345 Місяць тому +3

      #religion

    • @doneestoner9945
      @doneestoner9945 27 днів тому +2

      Good people will do good things. Bad people will do bad things. It takes religion for good people to do bad things.

    • @davewade30
      @davewade30 27 днів тому +1

      @@doneestoner9945 Not just religion. Political ideology is just as dangerous.

  • @kellijanssen1171
    @kellijanssen1171 Місяць тому +126

    He is complicit. Those kids were abused before Ruby ever met Jodi and Kevin went right along with it. All he does this entire time is cover for Ruby (she is who called him). He only talks about Ruby and not his abused kids.

    • @Jaded368
      @Jaded368 Місяць тому

      You know it was her who called? I had an inkling! He seems so shady

    • @kschwitter
      @kschwitter Місяць тому +5

      I completely agree. He knows stuff. He may have been brainwashed, but he knew, and he allowed. Terrible.

    • @msdhinMT
      @msdhinMT Місяць тому +2

      100% looser and guilty too! What would folks be saying if the mother abandoned her children? He trusted her???? WTF????

    • @lornacnh1
      @lornacnh1 Місяць тому +4

      I could be wrong but his tears, sadness and shock did not appear genuine to me.
      I would have been demanding to see my children immediately he supposedly doesn't even know they are safe or not seriously injured at the beginning of the interview

    • @helenestiernstrand6575
      @helenestiernstrand6575 Місяць тому +2

      Yup Ruby is his leader. He follows her blindly as a puppy. Masochist glutny for punishment.
      ”Good boy! 🐶🐶🐶”
      🤮

  • @serensighs
    @serensighs Місяць тому +58

    Urinary and fecal incontinence can be a result of extreme starvation. The body begins to break down the pelvic floor muscles. It's really scary that this was happening and Ruby did nothing.
    R was a hero that day. He and E have an incredible amount of resilience and strength. They are so brave.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical Місяць тому +10

      The sad thing is, he didn't go to the neighbour to raise the, alarm, he went to turn himself into the police, believing he was bad, and hoping he would at least receive better treatment than what he was currently receiving.

    • @Katprint
      @Katprint Місяць тому +6

      I remember Shanda Vander Ark's son Timothy becoming incontinent before he died of starvation. Scary that these kids were on the same path.

    • @helenestiernstrand6575
      @helenestiernstrand6575 Місяць тому +6

      @@KatprintPeople who get convicted on child abuse/child neglect charges should get their head shaven in court after they recieves their sentances.
      As to warn others!

    • @bekind758
      @bekind758 Місяць тому +7

      Trauma- wetting and soiling bed! Malnutrition- less muscle- not being able to control bodily functions. OMG my heart bleeds for these kids...

    • @serensighs
      @serensighs Місяць тому +3

      @McQuizzical I know, but it still took so much bravery and he knew he wasn't being treated right - that jail would treat him better. I like to think his subconscious pushed him. But either way, he and E were so brave. 💜

  • @laurav9661
    @laurav9661 Місяць тому +21

    Probably already in the comments, but his attorney revealed that it was Ruby who called him to come get the kids. His silence is because he is more concerned about Ruby and protecting her than the kids. A day or so later, he wants his eldest daughter arrested as well. Body cam of that.

  • @rv4084
    @rv4084 Місяць тому +43

    The word “invited” Kevin used in reference to Ruby asking him to leave his home, is something that seems to be Connexions wording. Ruby used that word in her journals in reference to “inviting her children” to confess truth.

    • @Katprint
      @Katprint Місяць тому +8

      Yes, and Ruby "invited" the kids to go without food for days.

  • @Lakelife67
    @Lakelife67 Місяць тому +24

    Once again CPS drops the ball, after they were notified that young children were left alone for days and they knock on the door and leave. No follow up. Pathetic and disappointing.

  • @iceblueaquamarina7389
    @iceblueaquamarina7389 Місяць тому +102

    Listening to the diary entries I get the vibes of a malicious narc: Blameshifting, gaslighting, punishing others for no reason, tormenting people physically and psychologically, finding ridiculous excuses for a horrible behaviour, showing no empathy,… And I‘m not buying her regrets in court either. It‘s part of a narc show.

    • @edrathephoenix
      @edrathephoenix Місяць тому +10

      I also hear psychotic hyper religiosity

    • @mendawatson8708
      @mendawatson8708 Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @JRnanaBOOMER
      @JRnanaBOOMER Місяць тому +1

      This is an educated man, who understood where he was. He knew the police could lie and exaggerate, he didn't expect them to tell him the truth, so it was pointless to bother asking. I hope he is just brainwashed and confused with where reality lies. I want the kids to have a father, I pray that they can have at least one parent that they can come to see as being nothing more than a weak minded human with some redemption. We are supposed to have chosen trustworthy partners. Some people grow up with fairytale lies and live with that expectation. I know a lot of ignorant geniuses. I wonder after Kevin was away from Jodi and Ruby, was he still in close contact with "the others" who had indoctrinated him originally? They would have kept the soap suds bubbling his brain. SENDING LOVE & LIGHT.

    • @phoenixrising1675
      @phoenixrising1675 Місяць тому

      Ruby and Lori Vallow could be sisters- that sweet voice and smile- that religious self righteousness! I can’t stand these woman who use God and Satan to take responsibility for their evil!

    • @ahermannblue
      @ahermannblue Місяць тому

      Someone called her a sadist and I agree.@@edrathephoenix

  • @jneill
    @jneill Місяць тому +37

    Ruby Franke and her husband were already abusing those children when she met Hildebrandt. They then partnered in child abuse. Franke is not a victim and she's not sorry for anyone but herself. Anyone who thinks they saw regret and some kind of contrition in her statements at the trial are kidding themselves. She should never be allowed close to those children ever again. The father should only be allowed supervised visitation.

    • @Katprint
      @Katprint Місяць тому +2

      In legalese, Ruby was abusing the kids and Kevin was neglecting/failing to protect the kids. Both are crimes but they are different crimes, similar to how assault with a armed robbery and kidnapping are both crimes but they are different crimes.

    • @cathyhelmuth823
      @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому

      The husband gave Jodi the power over him and his family! I haven’t heard concerns and love for the children over their concern for themselves!

    • @cathyhelmuth823
      @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому

      I can’t imagine the mental, emotional, and permanent scars of this abuse that these children will have their entire lives!

  • @jasonlisowski1
    @jasonlisowski1 Місяць тому +111

    2nd interview is the interview to analyze. Crazy stuff. Please do a video on the 2nd interview

    • @astislifeonwheels
      @astislifeonwheels Місяць тому

      Please.semd me through the link to the 2nd one

    • @therealz360z7
      @therealz360z7 Місяць тому +4

      Ruby carried a camcorder attached to her hands at all times if there were flying objects Ruby could have, should caught one on camcorder . Highly intelligent people are leaving 5he LDS religion because of the crazy beliefs .

    • @whoseturnisit9733
      @whoseturnisit9733 Місяць тому +5

      It will be like many other cases, nearly everyone has access to a recording device but never seem to catch these wild accusations. They also were taking drugs from Mexico allegedly like peyote so I question anything they think they saw. Add in religious zealotry and I say it’s in all in their heads.

    • @keminoak
      @keminoak Місяць тому +7

      Agree. Can't properly assess this without the 2nd interview

    • @PennelopeWhitmore
      @PennelopeWhitmore Місяць тому

      Ya this interview doesn't give anything new but the second one does. If anyone is full of demons it would be Jodi and he gives his kids over to that person and makes his son pay $900 a month for counseling from her.

  • @foreverwander0320
    @foreverwander0320 Місяць тому +44

    People keep saying the daughter was 10 but she was 9 during the months abuse. She turned 10 soon after she was rescued.

    • @Katprint
      @Katprint Місяць тому +1

      Age 9 or age 10 is a distinction that doesn't really make a difference.

    • @foreverwander0320
      @foreverwander0320 Місяць тому +1

      @@Katprint idk when it comes to child a use aging up seems intentional to me, it makes it seem different to people

  • @rebeccapinto9926
    @rebeccapinto9926 Місяць тому +5

    Kevin seems so much more concerned about his wife as opposed to his children. He was
    willing to leave his kids for his wife. It’s unreal. I hope he does not get custody of his children.

  • @cactusflower4326
    @cactusflower4326 Місяць тому +26

    It's so much worse than we thought...wow...tears...dear God help these babies heal. Amen

    • @peoplelikefrank
      @peoplelikefrank Місяць тому

      I heard a lot of God-talking in these interviews 😠

    • @dz7a756
      @dz7a756 Місяць тому

      ​@@peoplelikefrankThe god they believe is not the true God in Jesus Christ.
      Be well and be at peace.

  • @christinemay361
    @christinemay361 Місяць тому +28

    I saw a clip of him not being happy about his older daughter going into the house for something. I don't think he is as innocent as he pretends

    • @SD0224
      @SD0224 Місяць тому +8

      You are correct he wanted his eldest daughter arrested for burglary because she went into the family home to retrieve items for her siblings she took in and he thought she was gathering evidence against him for LE

    • @NChorseluvr
      @NChorseluvr Місяць тому +5

      I’m wondering if he thought she had the Pen Papers….

    • @lorileederks239
      @lorileederks239 Місяць тому +2

      @@NChorseluvrExactly!

    • @astrialindah2773
      @astrialindah2773 Місяць тому

      So because he was not happy about his daughter going into the house for whatever reason, that makes him Not Innocent but guilty of something? What does that make him guilty of?

    • @PrometheanRising
      @PrometheanRising Місяць тому +1

      ​@astrialindah2773 justifying suspicions that existed long before Ruby was arrested that he is a terrible father. He's definitely guilty of that.

  • @CynthiaVassar-sh9sj
    @CynthiaVassar-sh9sj Місяць тому +24

    I couldn't understand his behavior until I saw an interview on Morman Stories Podcast . First, Adam Paul Reed, second, Brian Tibbets, then the abuse of the children with Jesse Hildebrandt, Jodi's neice. This opened my eyes about the abuse to the husbands and children.

    • @lindak3030
      @lindak3030 Місяць тому +6

      Yeah, but Kevin is not the same as those other men, because Kevin was involved in abusing these kids long before Ruby met Jody.

    • @Jordan-nw4sj
      @Jordan-nw4sj Місяць тому

      ​@@lindak3030What's your evidence of that? Jodi has been the family counselor for years.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical Місяць тому +3

      ​​@@Jordan-nw4sj Ruby used blanket training on her babies, her sisters too. There will still likely be some video footage out there somewhere. Her sisters weren't Jodi supporters. Blanket training involves placing a baby on a blanket for a length of time and if they move off it they're smac*ked. Abhorrent physical and phycholgical ab*se.
      Also Ruby broke Russell's leg (femur) when he was, around 6 months old and didn't seek medical care for him for several days. All this is, well before Jodi.
      Then there's an interview with another family member, a cousin I believe, who stated the handcuffing etc is, something that goes on within the upbringing of children within their family. The ab*se is ingrained and generational.

    • @scruff3760
      @scruff3760 Місяць тому +2

      Blanket training should be very clearly outlawed so that no one is unclear whether it’s ok or not, then if they do it anyway they can be held criminally accountable,no ifs no buts no maybes.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical Місяць тому +1

      @@scruff3760 I totally agree

  • @bar9092
    @bar9092 Місяць тому +45

    Kevin is no victim! He may not be criminally culpable, though he's certainly morally culpable. Having seen some of the 8 passengers pre-Jodi videos, Kevin was abusive to the kids in his own right. Would he have gone as far bad as Ruby? If she demanded it, i think he would have yes.

    • @SD0224
      @SD0224 Місяць тому +3

      I agrée 💯

  • @jeaniearmenta493
    @jeaniearmenta493 Місяць тому +28

    Kevin has no outrage about how his son and daughter were treated . I hope cps looks at the 8 passenger videos before even considering giving him custody.

    • @r_and_a
      @r_and_a Місяць тому +6

      kevin was more upset his eldest daughter took things out of the house he hadn't been in for a year after the police broke the door down than he was to learn his kids were hospitalized!

    • @cathyhelmuth823
      @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому +1

      The daughter might have picked up documentation that would make him guilty in all this!

  • @yankeecitygirl
    @yankeecitygirl Місяць тому +30

    Kevin directly refutes Ruby’s claim that she wasn’t Jodi’s business partner in this interview. She said this at her sentencing acceptance speech.

    • @nicholeleblanc603
      @nicholeleblanc603 Місяць тому

      I think she realized after the fact that maybe this was a weird "business partnership" bc she says she was never paid by Jody or the business, and that she was paying her to be like her mentor and a therapist for their family. Her lawyer probably pointed it out to her.

    • @daniellem905
      @daniellem905 Місяць тому +3

      “Sentencing acceptance speech”-so accurate 😂

  • @tracyfromthemermaidcove8690
    @tracyfromthemermaidcove8690 Місяць тому +120

    Ruby is no victim. She was very much looking for a partner to do with her. She lost her channel because Sun were reporting her and her husband. They lost sponsorship etc he husband has lost the right to ever parent these children. He is not capable of

    • @gagecarlsen3872
      @gagecarlsen3872 Місяць тому +1

      From what I heard she shut down the Channel to give it to Jodi and start a Channel with her.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical Місяць тому

      ​@@gagecarlsen3872 By that time 8 passengers was on its last legs, as more and more reports were being made due to concerns with their parenting. Kevin says as much himself. 90 percent of their earning was raised by exploiting their children, that was coming to an end due to reports, so Ruby had to find another avenue.

    • @ElijahsMimi
      @ElijahsMimi Місяць тому

      You need to listen to Kevin's 2nd police interview where he explains how Jodi wormed her way into their, into their home for months while Jodi was "possessed by demons" 👀

  • @gb3376
    @gb3376 Місяць тому +6

    I don’t know about criminal charges but I’m firmly against him getting his children’s custody. Never risk putting those poor kids in danger again

  • @mary-londoneldred4431
    @mary-londoneldred4431 Місяць тому +46

    Please listen to the second interview! There is no video but unbelievable things that Kevin was subjected to which will help us all understand how profoundly intertwined Jodi was in his marriage!

    • @SandraMartinez-xe6hj
      @SandraMartinez-xe6hj Місяць тому +16

      It connects so closely to what Adam Paul Steed said about his experience with Jodi…

    • @floweringevergreen3584
      @floweringevergreen3584 Місяць тому +16

      To understand Kevin better, people should watch Hidden True Crime's interviews with Adam Paul Steed and Mormon Stories Podcast's interview with Brian Tibbets. Jodi is a serial marriage killer with a clear modus operandi.

    • @GrettaPickett-xm2ot
      @GrettaPickett-xm2ot Місяць тому +4

      He’s completely complicit

    • @jendbrown
      @jendbrown Місяць тому +5

      That second interview cleared a lot of things up for me. It shows why cults are so so dangerous.

    • @griffin2263
      @griffin2263 Місяць тому +2

      the whole thing is so weird..to let an outside person control your marriage ...that is nuts

  • @lillyroth61
    @lillyroth61 Місяць тому +8

    This was a man that was forced out of his family and for a whole year was trying to do everything he was asked to do in order to prove he he had “bettered” himself and be allowed back. Under such duress, and stress, he was probably doubting everything he was being told at that point, and fearful that anything he might say could further jeopardize his chances to be allowed back in.
    He might not have qualified for father of the year up to then. But what was done to those kids at JH house is sadistic torture
    The whole thing is complete madness.

  • @kellijanssen1171
    @kellijanssen1171 Місяць тому +23

    Peter please don’t fall for Ruby’s gaslighting. She is playing a game to simply not serve long jail time.

    • @moonchild6307
      @moonchild6307 Місяць тому

      You should listen to her and Kevin’s phone conversations from jail to know she has no regrets.

  • @cindymorgan7295
    @cindymorgan7295 Місяць тому +5

    There aren’t enough “I’m so sorry’s” in the world to make up for him abandoning his kids.

  • @mariapilarme
    @mariapilarme Місяць тому +7

    Those abuses were to brake their little soul. I feel so sad for them. They deserve their punishment 💯. This is horrendous!

  • @McQuizzical
    @McQuizzical Місяць тому +8

    After listening to his second interview and all that went on, it's even more shocking that he could walk out and not check on his kids welfare for over a year!

  • @cathyl2338
    @cathyl2338 Місяць тому +16

    Peter thanks for always keeping it classy.

  • @stephaniegreen8437
    @stephaniegreen8437 Місяць тому +5

    Please cover the second interview with Kevin! The change of tune is CRAZY!!!

  • @marytesta3003
    @marytesta3003 Місяць тому +30

    I didn't follow this much but how this can a parent not know something was wrong? Even the adult children knew, teachers knew something was wrong. It was his responsibility to keep tabs and protect his children.
    A lot of weird stuff in Utah.

  • @larisabudzinsky2673
    @larisabudzinsky2673 Місяць тому +24

    That 2nd interview is crazy... the details of what this man went thru is insane... and then to sit here in this interview and find out your kids had it worse.... damn

    • @2A.Freedom
      @2A.Freedom Місяць тому +4

      Shame on you. This guy was abusing his kids long before jodi

    • @Jordan-nw4sj
      @Jordan-nw4sj Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@2A.FreedomThere's no proof of that. The family confirmed Jodi was the counselor who sent Chad to the wilderness camp, suggested taking away his bed, and suggested eve go hungry if she didn't pack her own lunch at age 5. The family has said Jodis been counseling then for years.
      Unless you know more than the family themselves, of course.

    • @WyattRyeSway
      @WyattRyeSway Місяць тому +6

      Yeah and he totally lied to the cops. 1st interview he says he didn’t know where Jodi lived and had never been to her house. 2nd interview he says he went there and was shocked at the size of the house. Obviously, he knows his kids are in very rough shape from abuse heaped on them by Ruby and Jodi but he lies and doesn’t correct himself. Asks about his wife, not his abused children. I mean…..even on 8 passengers, they had a book burning, took away Xmas gifts from the 2 youngest kids but one year gave the kids knives…..Kevin and Ruby didn’t seem to need Jodi to be sadistic. She just honed those traits.

  • @denisia1111
    @denisia1111 Місяць тому +3

    Wow Ivens police department. From rescuing the kids, to arresting Jodi n Ruby, and Kevin's interview these cops are amazing. I can think of a lot of large cities and small rural towns that could learn from this department.

    • @cathyhelmuth823
      @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому +1

      They had to think this can’t be! Are we in an horror movie?

  • @tweety2918
    @tweety2918 Місяць тому +4

    I also think their goal was to get kids as quick as possible on that day to control what they could be saying. Them saying kids fault for sores from cuffs/restraints & starvation is beyond heartbreaking, devastating and also makes me angry

    • @cathyhelmuth823
      @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому

      Knowing the condition those children were in, and Ruby thought the kids would be allowed to go home with Kevin.

  • @katynicholson340
    @katynicholson340 Місяць тому +9

    Yes please do the second interview with Kevin, Peter, it’s really important

  • @ozwaltreacts4709
    @ozwaltreacts4709 Місяць тому +20

    I understand him. I did something similar. My wife was acting out bad and blaming me and I took the blame and was trying to atone for it so I stayed away in really bad conditions for almost a year.
    Turns out it just enabled more bad behavior from her and I regret the hell out of it.
    When someone is manipulating you and taking advantage of trust and good intentions it’s really a mind fuck. I’m just now starting to see it clearly. You can get lost in it.

    • @Mommysauraus
      @Mommysauraus Місяць тому +7

      Thank you for sharing your story. I think it's hard for people to put themselves in Kevin's shoes because of the horrible circumstances surrounding his children and wife. To me, it does sound as if he were manipulated too.

    • @bizzithegamermom
      @bizzithegamermom Місяць тому +4

      I am so sorry that you were subject to this type of abuse. So glad you were able to finally free yourself. Thank you for being brave enough to share a piece of your story so others can gain insight into what can happen in these type of situations. Bless you.

    • @Rae777
      @Rae777 Місяць тому +2

      I’m sorry you went through that! Thank you for sharing. I can believe that Kevin was emotionally manipulated by Jodi and Ruby. What’s hard to understand is why he felt comfortable leaving his children with a religious leader he thought was possessed by a demon, why he didn’t seem particularly concerned about his children when told about their condition, etc. Kevin was definitely abused, gaslighted, IMO, but his primary concern was his wife and not his children, just from his own phrasing and direct statements. I was more primed to view him as a victim until he started talking (months ago). Now I feel like he was a victim of Ruby and Jodi, and a perpetrator against the children. I think both can be true at once. Just extremely unfortunate.
      I hope you’re doing so much better now!

  • @Gaiartemis
    @Gaiartemis Місяць тому +11

    This case absolutely heartbreaking. These kids having been brought into this world by the two biggest FLAKES. They don't care about the kids, they only care about themselves. Just hope they get appropriate therapy and it is not too late to for them to grow up and have a fulfilling life in spite of these idiots who brought them into the world.

  • @JessCatlessi
    @JessCatlessi Місяць тому +10

    2.8k likes already. I hope it gets to 5k likes soon. I want more from you, Peter, on this topic please. Thank you for your great coverage.

  • @EllEss331
    @EllEss331 Місяць тому +31

    3:20 Interesting how he answers: "I've been in a separation from my wife and family." Normally, someone would say, "My wife and I are separated". Most parents are still able to have access to the children during a separation.
    His response sounds like he's also been brain-washed to think that he was unworthy to be around his own kids. Sounds like this was, most likely, an outcome from Jodi Hildebrandt's marital/family counseling. Many other couples have attested to similar stories from her counseling, where the husband's behavior is condemned and he is deemed unworthy. What a horrible woman Jodi is.

    • @Oohthehumanity
      @Oohthehumanity Місяць тому +1

      Word.

    • @nicholeleblanc603
      @nicholeleblanc603 Місяць тому +3

      I had that thought, too. Especially when he said that Jody was the one who noticed that he needed help for pornography. Because I think Adam said in his interview that Jody convinced him and his wife that this made him almost a threat to the kids, like a sexual deviant who shouldn't be allowed around the children. & many people pointed out that you can watch it once Jody will tell you that you're an addict.

    • @judistocker1811
      @judistocker1811 Місяць тому +2

      I heard Adam talk about the Mormon church teaching about marriage and presume Jodi had mastered how to manipulate that belief. Kevin’s later interview he talked about how Ruby was willing to sign over family assets to Jodi to be a part of conextions

  • @sundiverjl
    @sundiverjl Місяць тому +3

    I'm really glad you're on my feed again. Hadn't seen your videos pop up since our old pirate days. Glad to hear your take on this and everything you said resonates with me. Sin culture is so weird and I won't encroach on other's beliefs in general but the minute they say that children embody sin I think that's a major red flag. Children are the most vulnerable and innocent group of people on the planet.

  • @adambachtel9563
    @adambachtel9563 Місяць тому +4

    I’m a Nurse and see a lot but when it’s children it’s so much harder. I could never be a social worker..😢

    • @judistocker1811
      @judistocker1811 Місяць тому +1

      I had wanted to work Peds ICU until I had clinicals at a county hospital unit. I had to stop at a park on my way home just to see happy kids playing.

  • @LadyGreyAgeingDisGracefully
    @LadyGreyAgeingDisGracefully Місяць тому +5

    I know some people need to turn away or not listen for a while to these stories of the vile actions of these abusers but I can’t stop thinking about the poor kids who didn’t have the opportunity to turn away or walk away from their experience. Trapped for an unknown time being tortured. Those young souls broken from such an early age. I hope you thrive now little ones.

  • @kristivaldez5815
    @kristivaldez5815 Місяць тому +6

    Yes, please do the second interview.

  • @shaylove3786
    @shaylove3786 Місяць тому +8

    I think her sentence should be 30 year. They should give her the maximum. The journal is what did it for me. They are evil.

    • @Katprint
      @Katprint Місяць тому +1

      Her journal plus the 8 Passenger videos of her withholding food and emotionally abusing the children.

  • @gillyuk1013
    @gillyuk1013 Місяць тому +1

    That (very loud through headphones) text alert that goes off many times throughout the video is maddening.

  • @calmkitty2
    @calmkitty2 Місяць тому +7

    Ruby speech was gaslighting. She knew showing remorse and taking accountability could get her a lesser sentence.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical Місяць тому +2

      Absolutely. I'm gobsmacked that the like of this commentator and the prosecuter have been sucked in by her performance. Unbelievable! Sometimes it's not what's been said, but rather what was not said.
      All those thank you's, and not a one for Russell for saving her from mur*er charges. Or the couple that helped him, and raised the alarm. That to me speaks volumes.

  • @rhondasisco-cleveland2665
    @rhondasisco-cleveland2665 Місяць тому +11

    Pure evil.

  • @heftyhefty_
    @heftyhefty_ Місяць тому +4

    Can’t wait to listen to this. That interview with the dad really ruffled my feathers

  • @nikkimartin7556
    @nikkimartin7556 Місяць тому +2

    Yes please break down the 2nd interview!

  • @apeyoutube7485
    @apeyoutube7485 Місяць тому +9

    It was his wife over jail phone call
    He doesn’t want her to be in trouble for anything

  • @GrettaPickett-xm2ot
    @GrettaPickett-xm2ot Місяць тому +7

    He knew what was going on

    • @r_and_a
      @r_and_a Місяць тому

      💯! he participated & enabled ruby's cruel tactics before they ever met jodi

  • @jimhenderson387
    @jimhenderson387 Місяць тому +2

    Peter, I also want to add that I admire and commend you for admitting that you too need to be reminded daily not to be selfish. Being human is tough!

  • @evelynprohn6120
    @evelynprohn6120 Місяць тому +6

    Hello from Amsterdam…. Were devastated about this case !

  • @CPAries1965
    @CPAries1965 Місяць тому +8

    Watch Dateline for more information. Most especially the husband’s side and the reason why he was cleared.

  • @nooneyouknow4829
    @nooneyouknow4829 Місяць тому +3

    everything is on the Washington County, UT website

  • @WyattRyeSway
    @WyattRyeSway Місяць тому +2

    He lies to the cops in the 1st interview. Said he didn’t know where Jodi lived and never was there. Then in the 2nd interview, he was there and commented how big the house was. I mean, my good grief

  • @mollyworld4468
    @mollyworld4468 Місяць тому +1

    This case is so insane. I want to see the second one with your breakdowns!

  • @dopple441
    @dopple441 Місяць тому +2

    Yes please to second interview! Thanku!

  • @debhanzlik540
    @debhanzlik540 Місяць тому +3

    Yes Peter please cover his 2nd interview! 😊 Thank you for all you do here!

  • @mistymathis257
    @mistymathis257 Місяць тому +1

    Please do the second interview. I would love to hear your thoughts on what he says. Also, there is a jail house call between him and Ruby. You might want to hear that one too since it’s from the night she was arrested before he talked to an attorney and changed his mind.

  • @melissam64
    @melissam64 Місяць тому +2

    Yes please to second interview!! You’re so great Peter, thank you for taking the time for us and educating us with legal stuff!

  • @DubFit12
    @DubFit12 Місяць тому +1

    Not controlling normal bodily function at that age is likely related to being over stressed or traumatized. Considering there isn’t any other preexisting condition to connect it to. Her statements are wild and outlandish.

  • @dawno620
    @dawno620 Місяць тому +1

    Love your channel!! So informative

  • @smartphoto59
    @smartphoto59 Місяць тому +1

    "Lawyer You Know" offers great nuanced analysis, in-depth, and objective.

  • @christineniering1233
    @christineniering1233 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for this Peter…agonising for you and us all…🙏😊

  • @wsflaw
    @wsflaw Місяць тому +1

    Watching replay. Thank you. As a trial lawyer in Houston I am enjoying your channel!

  • @KBtx23
    @KBtx23 Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Look forward to your take on 2nd interview.

  • @lynnedwards8333
    @lynnedwards8333 Місяць тому +2

    Yes, second interview

  • @monicah4123
    @monicah4123 Місяць тому +2

    Second video gives much better picture of the situation

  • @samanthamccowan
    @samanthamccowan 10 днів тому

    I love how you still stay the same even though ive seen your following grow immensely. Thanks Peter!

  • @karmaMatters123
    @karmaMatters123 Місяць тому +6

    This book/preachings/teachings etc WAS in their eyes meant to be used in the future in “the” Book of Mormon/Bible!!
    There was a journal and another book that Ruby and Jodi called something like “the printed pages”. I’m not sure which one you are reading from but I believe the printed pages book wasn’t found until after they pled guilty .This is where Ruby wrote down all of the crazy things that Jodi and others saw (crazy stuff like plates flying across rooms and so much more crazy stuff). According to this cult this is where Ruby wrote down all the beliefs, events and words that were to be in the next bible/book of Mormon or whatever the religious book they follow. Kevin told the detectives about the book (and its general purpose) but did not know exactly what it entailed . He told the detectives that if they found that book that it would outline everything and basically be all the proof needed for the convictions. I believe it was not located until after they pled guilty. I’m not sure if what you’re reading is out of her (Ruby’s) day-to-day journal or if it’s the “printed pages” book that words were never meant to be seen or read by anyone outside of this religious cult . (until it was published in the bible 🙄) Literal evil!! And she talks about the devil …and forcing the kids outside in dangerous heat levels because the devil only stays in dark places. Meanwhile, they were forcing them into closets/rooms/spaces without any windows or light! ……. not to mention starving to death, having nothing to educate or stimulate them. No love, hugs or encouragement! I think Jodi and Ruby just had to look in the mirror to see the devil….and its followers!!
    I hope for peace and healing for all of these innocent, sweet and strong children.
    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @cathyhelmuth823
      @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому +2

      I compare these children’s treatment comparable to those children who were brutally abused in Holocaust camps.

  • @kimberlyrub4920
    @kimberlyrub4920 Місяць тому

    Thank you from your Michigan Replay Crew

  • @boriquajewel2667
    @boriquajewel2667 Місяць тому

    Great coverage!

  • @r_and_a
    @r_and_a Місяць тому +2

    *2nd interview please* even though admittedly it's a bit frustrating that i think you give *way* too much benefit of the doubt since i've seen more, i always appreciate how respectful you are & hearing your perspective

  • @heftyhefty_
    @heftyhefty_ Місяць тому +3

    More more more of this content. I know it may be a change from what you usually cover but it’s really good coverage

  • @MrsDannunzio
    @MrsDannunzio Місяць тому

    Second long interview will BLOW YOUR MIND, Peter! Would LOVE to have you analyzed it! Lots of fascinating legal conundrums and issues along with emotional psychological ones. Wow! Great content for your channel. Much more interesting in this one, and this one is really interesting!!!

  • @liliamrodriguez3020
    @liliamrodriguez3020 Місяць тому

    Great coverage

  • @lisabarr5817
    @lisabarr5817 Місяць тому +1

    The 2nd one is very telling! Thanks for covering this horrible case! You as always are fabulous 😃
    I would do the live too, but I work at 5am 😬

  • @luci-ferre8379
    @luci-ferre8379 Місяць тому +1

    I was under coercive control of my father's widow (not my biological mother) after my father passed away because she was able to use his death as a way to make me feel guilted into doing what she wanted. I was only under her control for a few days before I was (thankfully) rescued by my loved ones, but I can say from firsthand experience, when you're under that control, processing information, reality and normal conversations is virtually impossible. It's like trying to hear and speak while under water. Everything is garbled and you can't trust your senses. I can see that kind of trauma in the husband. If he was feeling anything like I was in those few days I would give him some grace and understand why he wasn't behaving like a 'normal' person and demanding to see his children.

  • @Fleur-de-Liss954
    @Fleur-de-Liss954 Місяць тому

    You’ve caught on to soo many things with this case, Peter! Thanks for covering this!

  • @kristinakelley744
    @kristinakelley744 Місяць тому

    My heart is broken, thank you for staying pragmatic about the facts (even though you have your own feelings). Thank you! ❤

  • @laurenW957
    @laurenW957 Місяць тому

    More interview please👍

  • @NationandState
    @NationandState Місяць тому +1

    Second interview please!!

  • @theresamezza5204
    @theresamezza5204 Місяць тому +2

    Replay crew here! Yes second interview please ⛳️⛳️⛳️

  • @hollyallyson4111
    @hollyallyson4111 Місяць тому

    Yes, 2nd interview please!

  • @ashleypg1708
    @ashleypg1708 Місяць тому +3

    I know the 2/20 statement of Kevin requesting Ruby recieve the MAX sentence (same as Jodi), was thru his lawyer, but I don't believe his lawyer would have said it if Kevin disagreed.
    In February, Kevin wanted Ruby to get the maximum for the inhumane abuse perpetrated on their children. This is a good sign to me.
    I was in the "I hate Kevin, how could he?" camp, & that was amplified after this first interview. But after seeing the second interview & reading more about him, a big part of me belives his every move has been controlled by Ruby their entire relationship & he's also been emotionally & mentally abused by her.
    I think Kevin has a really good lawyer who helped WAKE HIM UP. I don't think there's any way Kevin would gain custody of any of the kids if he wasn't in long-term intensive therapy. He has been trying to get custody of the older teens for a while now & still hasn't been awarded any. This is good. The requirements to gain custody should be incredibly strict.
    Seeing Chad & Shari walk into the courtroom and sit with their father is also a good sign to me. Shari has been in therapy for some years now and it has completely changed her life. I honestly do not believe she would initiate any contact with him again if she didn't believe it was a healthy move. Chad also hadn't spoken to his father in a year. I think it's a sign Kevin is "coming to". Idk. This is my desperate hope at least.
    You know who the Franke kids AREN'T safe with? Any of Ruby's siblings or parents. They don't get it. They forgive Ruby & believe the kids should too & I find that so disgusting & unsafe.

    • @nicholeleblanc603
      @nicholeleblanc603 Місяць тому +1

      I also saw a comment on Chad's Instagram where someone said "I hope you don't trust Kevin anymore." Chad said, "False. I'm sorry, who are you?" And that said a lot to me too. Even with all of the UA-cam videos, we don't know what happened behind the scenes. I hope the older kids especially can tell their version if they want to.

  • @jamiefiedor5717
    @jamiefiedor5717 Місяць тому +1

    2nd interview please. 💜

  • @TheMswilson123
    @TheMswilson123 Місяць тому

    Proud to finally be a member 🎉

  • @JudyInCO
    @JudyInCO Місяць тому +10

    His SECOND interview is on audio, he is as guilty as Ruby and Jodi. This interview is really Kevin-light. He knew exactly who was where, when.

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 Місяць тому +2

      If you can listen to his second interview and come away with that reaction I have to assume you have never encountered anyone as manipulative as jodi. I am happy for you, truly, but Kevin is absolutely a victim of a sociopathic cult leader.
      Ruby clearly has her own issues, but she is too.
      They were brainwashed by jodi who is a master at this. She targeted this family because of their money and fame. Fame she tried to capitalize on to grow her cult. A cult centered on her own enrichment and sadism.
      I'd bet money that the journal ruby kept was at jodi's direction/demand. A way for Jodi to get off on the control and manipulation she taught Ruby when she wasn't there. A way to make sure her control didn't slip.
      Without jodi, ruby and Kevin would have been religiously authoritarian parents. Obnoxious, but not criminal. Nothing like this.

  • @MaryMartin-dw2ph
    @MaryMartin-dw2ph Місяць тому

    Thank you for doing this and so many others. I’m sure most of topics are mentally draining especially the one regarding abuse and abuse of children. Your a good husband and a great dad and an amazing lawyer, please don’t forget that as we your viewers might at times. Enjoy your family this holiday weekend and always, take care.

  • @emilygilliss9800
    @emilygilliss9800 Місяць тому

    Yes to second interview!!

  • @Cat-tv4xn
    @Cat-tv4xn Місяць тому

    Yes 2nd interview please !!

  • @phoebecaroline7025
    @phoebecaroline7025 Місяць тому

    Please cover the 2nd interview! Thanks Peter🙏🏼

  • @Mandola-Jane
    @Mandola-Jane Місяць тому

    Yes please to the second interview. Their mindset is truly fascinating.

  • @susansteinhardt8503
    @susansteinhardt8503 Місяць тому

    You have to go over 2nd interview. It’s crazy what he reveals. It’s a must. Love your content.

  • @jennyhyde85
    @jennyhyde85 Місяць тому

    Thanks!

  • @eileenrossick78
    @eileenrossick78 Місяць тому +5

    Let’s do the second interview. I like the psychological aspect to this It gives more understanding to his thought process