FULL VIDEO: Utah Youtuber explains how involvement with Franke family forced his divorce
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2023
- Carl Andreasen is a UA-camr vlogger and documentarian of his own and said that he worked with Ruby Franke and her family a few years ago.
“I think from the first time we met at a convention was probably 2017 or 18, and fast forward to I blocked everyone on that entire friends group and family around 2019 and was divorced by 2021,” said Andreasen.
He described his relationship with the Franke’s as an acquaintance but he knew the greater family who worked together as “a whole unit as Mormon family vloggers."
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My mother was my abuser, everyone at church thought she was awesome. She would bear her testimony at church, and I would receive comments about how wonderful and what a faithful member she was. She used me as her scapegoat and portrayed me as such a troubled child, I think I was her narcissistic supply. I was treated like crap by everybody in the ward, and I felt like I must be unworthy to be loved by anyone. In the meantime, she was getting kudos from everybody, always a pat on the back and people telling her she’s incredibly strong and doesn’t know how she could survived a child like me. It took years for me to get any vindication and prove who I really was, but by then the damage was done. It sure looks like this type of parenting advice starts at the top. Families are forever my A$$! Btw, i’m no longer a believer… The true love of Christ doesn’t treat people the way these people do… simple!
I'm sorry to hear this about your abuse from your mom. Stand up for your truth. It will set u free💗
If you remove the mormon church, you've just described my life. That was me and my mother, up to the last detail of her being that great, tragic diva who had to deal with and sacrifice everything for her strange daughter. My whole family knew what she did to me, but chose to look away. Decades later, I revealed the truth and except my sister, they all abandoned me. But the truth is out and it made me stronger.
@@gaiagreen2690 Wow, I’m sorry you had to live through that, and trust me, I know the damage that can be done by one person. IMO, It doesn’t have to be the Mormon church, it could be any high demand religion, and based on my personal experience it’s definitely a breeding ground for narcissist. Sending you love and support.🙏🏼🥰
My husband is also narcissistic and emotionally abused me and our children . He walked out two years ago. Even now there are members of the ward who see him as an upstanding man. They didn't see his dark side. It was hard for a long time to go knowing people thought I was the problem. I have to remind myself that I don't go to church for their attention or support. I'm going to have a relationship with Christ. You will find evil and horrible people everywhere. They put one face in public and another around their family. We have lived in the abuse for so long it is hard to feel worthy of anything again. Many have no idea how hard it can be to move forward and build a new life. For my own healing I had to let go and forgive everyone involved. I had to forgive him, his parents, his siblings, my stepson, our employees, members of our ward, and people in our community. I am even working on forgiving myself for being used and abused by someone. I do understand how you have been deeply hurt. My three children are inactive because of all the emotional abuse and neglect at the hand of their father. Many people do a good job of wearing different faces for different people. The truth is they were also manipulated by your mother. For whatever reason it takes a long time for people to see the lies. I for one am glad that God knows the truth about each one of us. I have come to the place where the only opinion I care about is Christ's. It is hard to walk this path when you don't have a support group to rally around you. It is good to know that Christ is standing by my side.
Thank you for sharing. My grandpa was abusive to my Dad while he looked so good as a bishop of the ward.
Ruby and Jodi need to go to prison for LIFE.
Yes and the husband isn't squeaky clean either.
Agree. What they did to these children is horrendous and inexcusable. 😡
@@gingersmith2888 FYI for every Ruby and Jodi that get caught, there are a hundred more in Utah that don't. So many loopholes in LDS church-influenced Utah law that need to be fixed.
I think Rudy and Judy are in a sexual relationship
90 years is what I have read so far. That's life, essentially.
For a social media platform that criticizes everything from how a dog barks to where a baby is sitting, I find it mesnerizing that they allowed Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt to openly abuse young children and punish them most cruelly for simply being innocent kids.
They only censor things that will help people or make the world a better place. They're perfectly happy making lots of money off of evil people & ideas.
Its all the sickos who like to watch kids being abused.
It's absolutely flabbergasting and pisses me off beyond belief. UA-cam is a joke and has to get their priorities straight.
@@namelessgrace6319 --
I agree 100%.
And Jodie and ruby act homosexual is bad but it seems like they are in a relationship together. Hypocrites
Jaw dropped 😮 Jodi has so many victims besides the children. She’s evil and vindictive and I suspect there are many broken families because of her.
I think he is saying it was after he met the Ruby Franke and her siblings that his problems started not bc of Jodi
I watched his original video where he discussed this in depth and he only really mentions Ruby at the beginning where starts showing some news articles of her arrest. He didn’t talk about Jodi beyond that either. From the video, you can infer that it was largely one of Ruby’s sisters that lead to his divorce
He mentions Ruby's siblings as he didn't know Jodi
@@gracefoster7587which sister caused the divorce? It is honestly hard for me to see any of them having credibility because they put their kids online
Many people like her in Utah, so that people get used to it, and it happens again and again. This is why the culture is so messed up.
When my grandmother passed away the long time pastor of her church spoke over and over about what a sweet person she was. The immediate family were looking around at each other wondering if we were at the correct funeral. There are often 2 sides to a person.
Same with my grandmother. My mom and me looked at each like, who are they talking about?
If you aren’t the narcissist’s target, you may know them as wonderful, giving, friendly, helpful.
My mom is an abusive narcissist. I’ve never been able to buy a Mother’s Day card for her because they all lie and the lies would only feed her delusions of what a wonderful mother she was / is. I buy blank cards and write something funny.
I have no idea what I’ll say at her memorial when she passes. I think I’ll let her friends speak. The friends so far into denial they don’t remember having to walk away from the friendship every so often because of how verbally and emotionally abusive she was.
The ones who call her crying because they miss her so much since she moved close to me. But they didn’t come to say goodbye because she had been so mean to them in the months leading up to her move.
The ones begging her to move back “home.” I sent one friend a message asking if she was going to come get Mom and if so, did she want to arrange the movers or did she want me to. The friend backpedaled pretty quickly at the thought of being responsible for such a wicked woman.
Speaking of Boy Scouts, one of Jodi's victims that was the first to come out and talk was under her care because he was one of the boys abused by the Scouts. Man did she ever ruin him and tore his life apart. Adam Steed originally lobbied to get her involved with the Church because he had had a positive experience with her when he was younger; but, it changed much later. It was his records that she shared with the Church (against her professional guidelines, ethics violation) that caused her to lose her licence, at least for a while. The status of her licensure is currently unclear. His story is outrageous as Jodi's niece's story. If you take the time to listen to the long podcasts, everything will become clear, and disturbing, very disturbing. Men are coming out left right and centre telling the world what she is all about and all about her ConneXions program (word salad therapy).
Yes, I have probably watched all of the same ones you have. Lol honestly though I cannot wait to see these people get what they deserve. It's like seeing a bully get away with everything. And it's hilarious to me to watch Jody squirm. 😂
BSA is notorious for CSA. My little brother had a friend who was SA'd at boyscouts, and was forever changed for the worst. Soooo sad.
Everyone should watch Adam tell his story, I cried. As a mother to one son, I can’t even imagine having the strength his parents had to take on the Church & the BSA. I’m so proud of Adam & his family, they saved a lot of young boys from going through what he did, even though I know it is still going on.
Adam was abused by the Church, the BSA & then by Jodi, the fact he can share his story amazes me. I honestly don’t know when anyone touched me the way Adam did. I cry for his childhood and respect his adulthood.
Adams interview was gutting. I watch a LOT of true crime. Ive heard it all but seeing him try and retell his story and seeing what his lifetime of abuse has done to his mind and his mental well being just honestly broke me. I had to take breaks to get through that interview, but I wanted to finish it because I think Adam deserves to have people hear him speak his story. I feel like even though it is going to take a huge toll once again on his mental health he will likely testify in this trial when there is one because he is the first person to go up against Jodi Hildebrant and what she did to him, his life and his wife and child is important to this case.
Lets also not forget the hospital ER rooms that are allowing these UA-cam parents to film their children . This needs to stop. Its all about consent. Children have no voice !
Yes who wants to see a child in pain or vomiting? Those kids have their worst memories on tape!
So agree let children have some dignity please.
⚠️Children working in television, movies & live theatre are protected by very strict labor laws. There are laws about the money they are paid being put into trusts, how many hours they can work, the nature of the performances they are permitted to do.
Yet, there are NO rules that govern or protect children being exploited for social media or “family” channels!
We must protect our kids! We need laws that keep them safe and ways to preserve the money these channels make for the childrens education and future!
It’s outrageous a child can be subjected to being filmed 24 hours a day, in any number of intimate settings, at their most vulnerable and with no say or ability to decline participation ‼️
Don’t kid yourself; children in the entertainment industry aren’t safe either.
Not every state has rules about filming children. Maybe California does, but Utah doesn't ( Sister Wives ) Neither does Arkansas (Duggers).
That’s becuase they are with their family filming so it is assumed they are safe but that is clearly not the case
I think Shari wants to go into law, I would absolutely love to see her become an advocate because the 8 passengers case has the power to get new laws passed to increase protection for kids against their parents on social media.
Sarah Sanders the governor of Arkansas has changed the child labor laws in her state. It allows children, starting at the age of 13 to work in factories, meatpacking plants, etc . with or without their parents permission. Since the migrants that do seasonal work are being blamed for just about everything that goes wrong in this country, they won't be hired for these jobs, the state needs cheap labor, that's where the kids come in. Expect the laws to change in other states in the surrounding area. These are not safe places for kids to work and there's no limit on the hours they can work. I don't think some of these states care about the children.
The church recommend Jodi and even paid her. That gave her access to so many families. What Jodi and the church did to Adam, a victim of pedo**** who were protected by the institution, is just pure evil. As if allowing children to get SA and covering up wasn't enough, to go after someone who's a whistleblower on a pedo*** case because he exposed the church, is beyond disgusting.
Yes I seen his interview on Mormon Stories Podcast. This woman is well protected and I bet it's deeper than the church. Pure evil
I read that church stopped recommending her after Adam came forward.
The church will pay for therapy for people if they can't afford it. You are allowed to pick your own therapist. Once they discovered who she was they quit recommending her. Neither of these women represent The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.
Yes. And think of what such church/cultural practices (and state law failing to prevent) mean- for every severe abuse case we learn about there's a thousand others that couldn't (or were prevented from) coming forward and you begin to see why Utah is so broken.
@@cyndeerichards6040 The damage was done. They should have openly denounced her
On his YT channel, he said all of the sisters were playing wife swap.
I actually seen this in my ward, and I think my husband and I were being groomed. It blew my mind, knowing who some of the people were that were participating, like the elders corm president, people holding current temple recommends, etc. 🤯🤦🏻♀️
@@cdcdogs4961 So in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, let everything be established. You are at least a 2nd witness to these scandals going on. I wonder if there's a connection between the Mormon Church's history of polygamy and these couples trying to have "open" relationships.
@@maulenaspencer4906 Interesting.🤔 I was told by one person that it was ok for them to practice polygamy without their wife’s knowledge, because it was a higher law. I still don’t know what to think about his comment or whether I can believe him, maybe I’m struggling with a bit of cognitive dissonance. Craziness 😵💫
What is the name of his channel?
why the fuck not link it, just gossip over it.
I’m glad Bonnie’s actions are being called out again. She’s not that innocent like she’s being portrayed in this situation. IMO, Bonnie’s blanket training is a too much for a small child to understand.
Who’s Bonnie????
@@pamavery9352 Ruby’s sister. She is so much like her sister whit comes to exploiting her kids and has some pretty harsh punishments. They shouldn’t be overlooked. I don’t believe in blanket training and that’s her “claim to fame”
@@pamavery9352 Also, they knew what was happening but it wasn’t anything that would help build their channels. Three years of knowing, I have 10 ways to help/rescue ideas off the top of my head. I don’t even know the Franke’s but would have tried everything I could ESPECIALLY if I knew them.
An underage teenager was sexually abused by a young adult LDS male and when she reported it to her ward leader, he put the blame on her for the way she dressed. The kicker? The ward leader was the police chief in her city and should have known better and taken a criminal report. Didn’t happen.
It’s a cult.
The kids were forced to be on the UA-cam channel. They could not decide for themselves. UA-cam should protect children better.
I appreciate you taking a look at the bigger issue
Watching this interview along with your surviving a doomsday cult series has been a real eye-opener. The math is mathing. Good to see that you are doing well.
The bigger issue? The issue is with Ruby, Kevin and Jodi leave the rest of the family alone.
No man is an island. Cat is outta the bag... too many abuse survivers have humbled themselves and decided to do the intense homework required to heal/break the generational curse. We know how abuse repeats if not dealt with. "What you don't work out... you act out." Obvious trauma has impacted all Ruby's siblings... however, their manner of "moving forward" looks different. But it's obvious to those that understand dysfunctional dynamics and the roles abuse victims take on w/in the family structure.
Adam Paul Steed. What a story this man has to tell. Adam is one very brave man and i hope many more come forward after listening to his story. Also Jessie Hildebrant tells a harrowing story of spending almost a year in her aunt, Jodi Hildebrants care.
#AdamsArmy
Adam is telling the truth and been through hell. This man giving an interview I find very opportunistic to try and jump on a band wagon and earn money from it. Would like to hear the former wife's side.
Ruby’s sisters also need to be investigated. Bonnie especially gives me the creeps. She also seems emotionally unstable and displays the same craziness as Ruby. God knows how her kids are being treated. All the sisters kids are too young to realise how they are being exploited. I really hope that a law will be passed soon that bans using your kids as cash cows and ruining their childhoods. The bigger picture though is this is all sanctioned by the Mormon church and their zealous religious beliefs!
Bonnie is creepy! Anyone that is either crying or laughing is weird! Her husband seems to be walking on egg shells with her! He acts like she is his mother and he must obey her or he will be in big trouble! The sisters seem to be competing for the best house, the best mother, wife and daughter awards! Their kids are not living normal lives with a camera shoved up their noses all of the time! The grandparents on their mission and they knew their grand kids were not being treated right is showing that their church is more important than anything!
Good job speaking out Carl! I remember you from the vlogs. What you’re saying is EXACTLY what I noticed over the years as a viewer, Ruby was scapegoated by her siblings and parents to save themselves…it’s been sick to see and what’s scarier is how not many people seem to notice this big picture.
@@addsjo8091 did you miss the part where she stated that the judge literally told them to not talk about the kids or much of the case?
Well said!
@lachimolala41 did you miss the bit where kevins attorney has been flapping his gums about the children to anyone who will listen? The whole family abused and exploited the children and saying theres some sort of gag order in place is a fucking cop out
So this is not at all what he says. Not at all. He says they are ALL toxic and he states clearly that Ruby tried to get him to push unhealthy parenting stuff.
He just says she wasn’t the only one, and most folks seem to realize that. Haven’t seen many people defending the sisters, either.
#AdamsArmy please help spread this hashtag to get this information out about Jody. What she did to this man and his family is beyond disturbing.
This just gets more crazy by the day! There is a big church issue here notwithstanding that the parents in this case have questions to answer as does YT. Let the courts decide.
Exactly let’s see what all comes out in court…Bonnie posted another video today..and once again..never once said anything about the emotional and physical abuse the children have endured…not once….she pretty much is pinning the blame on Kevin…and she did the very best she and her family could do…..
@@linkat77 she's another cuckoo
@@linkat77- She seemed much more interested in justifying why she needed to continue exploiting and using her children and to resume posting her usual content. Disgusting that she monetized the video as well. Honestly she has appeared more upset and tearful, in past videos, about breaking a nail or about not getting her cabinets installed on time.
@@linkat77she can’t talk about the children per the judge.
Yes, he also called out Ruby's siblings
It’s always amazing what all comes out after the fact. So much could have been prevented if someone, anyone, had of listened to one person-Jessi Hildebrandt. Instead, Jodi, with the help of the church, left a path of destruction. So sad and so much trauma.
Jessie said in their interview with Mormon Stories that they were terrified to come forward before Jodi was arrested because she was, and still is, so unbelievably powerful in the church. It took a fuck of a lot of courage to come forward even with Jodi behind bars, because there's an entire system behind her that is still destroying lives.
Seriously. They didn't even have to listen to her they just needed to SEE her (which they did) and speak up. But the powers that be were all against her. The church is just as responsible here.
@@naomiwashburn358Yes, she also said that she wasn’t going to come forward. When this first broke a friend sent it to her, when she saw that her Aunt Jodi was using the “exact same pattern of abuse” on Ruby’s two young children, she decided to speak out.
Connexions was never funded by the church.
When an LDS church member tells their church leader that they want to seek family or marriage counseling, they can ask for therapist options from LDS family services, or find someone they like on their own - and if money is an issue, the Bishop can approve covering the costs of it.
The behavior of Ruby and Jodi is not, in any way, shape or form taught or supported by the church. There are bad apples in every organization.
But it was also church members who were reporting Ruby's behavior toward her kids - including her own sisters and daughter.
Religion is just one of many powerful tools that can be used to abuse and control in the hands of sick and twisted people. And unfortunately, when religion is involved - these people don't look like they could be harming anyone, because it's easier to be suspicious of someone who lives in a certain kind of neighborhood, or a filthy home, or looks chaotic on the outside.
Agreed thank you for posting this
The Mormon church certainly played a role in enabling Jodi and Connexions
Say you are LDS without saying you are lds looney 😂
Are you friends with Lori too??
The problem with your statement is that Jodi wasn’t just referred by a local bishop but was held high up your chain of leadership that’s where the problems lie is that there should be a separation of church and resources like counseling because it was biased towards church members ideology. I’m pretty sure Jodi is just the tip of the iceberg for the LDS church. The LDS church needs to step up and condemn Jodi and those that cause harm others that dare do what she did - not sweep it and stay quiet accountability is everything.
If you chose your camera before your child, theres something wrong with your priorities. And, OMG, to say what she said about her 11 year old son should not be forgiven in court.
Utah reform schools have the worst reputation. I would stay far away from psychological rehabilitation in Utah.
Thank you for sharing Carl Andreasen's perspective - it is so important to the larger issues with this case.
This man seems insightful and eloquent, good for him for leaving that church and standing up to Ruby in person. It's brave to speak the truth, even if you get some initial push back.
Thank you for this interview with Carl. I feel for him. Having the power of the church, and their therapists, dividing families must feel incredibly powerless. I hope Carl's future is very bright.
I hate that everyone is coming out now only after these kids suffered years of abuse. Everyone's story would have been very impactful 5yrs ago to those poor children in Judy's home people clearly knew illegal things were going on
Thank you so much for making sure the public understands the church is involvement in this stuff, the church is obsession with obedience by any means necessary
The Mormon bishops recommended Jody as their primary referral for therapy!
Carl has been telling his own story in his channel and it's fascinating. It's well worth the time and effort to seek him out.
How? What's his name etc?
@@margaretpinsent6388 Carl Crusher
What is the name of his channel?
@@juliegold6785His name
@@juliegold6785 Carl Crusher
They need to look into Bonnie and the other siblings. I don't feel right about them either
I hope this gentleman reaches out to Mormon Stories Podcast. He has an important story to tell.
Carl has his own channel and is doing a whole detailed series about his life and experiences with his divorce, the Mormon Church, and the 2nd one includes the news about Ruby Franke.
Mormon Stories is asking for victims of Jodi Hildebrandt who they are relaying to other news stations building stories. MS is focusing on the LDS systemic issues and how Hildebrandt was part of it.
Agree that people that have been harmed need and we welcome their shared stories.
Maybe a different name for their channel though. It’s misleading to call them ‘Mormon Stories’ and then present all their evidence and anger against the Church.
They don’t need to agree with the church (which they don’t) or like any of it)
Just don’t use that name. It’s misleading…
people leave the church, but can’t leave the church alone.
Also there are not confessionals in the church he is being asked about.
Tell all the stories, and also please show respect. The actions of some people can’t be used to generalised others that have no part in these horrific events.
@@kaz7281 well it is predominately stories of LDS. They feel a mission and commitment to those suffering from systemic issues of Mormonism and other high demand religions. You want LDS people not to use the LDS name but why be so defensive to squelch the right of others to share their Mormon Stories? The Good, The Bad, The Ugly. Transparency isn't always pretty, is it? But we as a culture and as people are only as healthy as the secrets we keep. People have a right to speak their truth and to heal. Why should they live their lives not to offend someone that likely wouldn't lift a finger to help?
@@kaz7281you dont get to decide how victims of your churches systemic abuse tell their stories. F off.
I agree with this man. There is so much behind closed doors.
Carl and Ginger's channel was filled with the same child exploiting, click baity titles and content. He's a hypocrite. Not saying his divorce wasn't traumatic and eye opening, but he was who he says they are.
He just wants attention. What a pill.
Agreed. I actually have a hard time trusting everything Carl said in this video. And his church bashing had a lot of false claims. He is personally bitter towards the LDS church.
I actually know Carl and Jinger IRL. I met them at a YT convention many years ago. It seems like he is playing the role of the victim here and any chance he gets, he'll bring up Jinger and their divorce.
I think he's looking for his 15 minutes of fame and more subscribers.
Thats why he got out, he never denys it.
He woke up and left that cult
100%
Using the cloaking device of religious separation of church/state for all of these types of CRIMES has to be examined. And it's not just Mormons. It's Amish, Mennonite, you name it. Any high-control group has the propensity to these things happening and then being hushed up. And Christians, if you think your church isn't high-control, go tell them you're going to leave and find out. And honestly, EVERY adult needs to be a mandatory reporter.
Well said
The churches I’ve been to don’t care if you leave lol. Of course they want to know if there’s any circumstances behind it but they don’t try to control that at all. A church that gets mad over that becomes a cult.
"You need a license to drive a car, hell you need a license to catch a fish... But they'll let any butt-reaming a**hole be a father/parent" - Keanu Reeves. Parenthood.
What this man is saying makes a lot of sense. This whole case is very disturbing.
He's right. The entire family is problematic. Their only saving grace is supporting and standing behind Shari. The only vlogger that might be unscathed, is Ruby's sister Julie. However, Bonnie and Ellie's family are very prominent in this world. Bonnie's responses to her sister Ruby are tone deaf to her nieces and nephews. I find her to be very self-centered. Kevin is complacent. I hope he goes through some serious deconstructing where he can integrate his faith so that he, too, is not a danger to others. This church is wacky, and it's going to take some serious convincing from Mormons to make me think that they are fit for society.
YES, make sure no one forgets about the horrible things Bonnie did to her kids for ratings.
I know this interview mentioned Bonnie, but I don't know who she is
@@dbentleyto95Ruby has sisters who all do family vlogging on UA-cam…Bonnie Hoellein channel, Ellie and Jared channel, Julie Deru Crew Vlogs channel. Their parents also vlog at Grandma and Grandpa Griffiths and their brother Beau used to as well, but not sure when or if he stopped.
@@dbentleyto95One of Ruby’s sisters.
Hi Carl, so sad this is happening to you and your's. Sending love and light
Throw the book at Ruby Franke and Jodi.
And the rest of the siblings and parents. They’re ALL exploiting their children for their own gain. Don’t let Bonnie fool you! She’s not meeting the emotional needs of her children.
Am uncomfortable with Ruby's siblings shouting victimhood whiles it is clear that the victims are the kids, their nieces and nephews 😢
I think they are all victims. To think that they’re not hurt by all of this is just not right. They can’t talk about Ruby’s kids because the judge has told them not to. Of course they’re hurting for their nieces and nephews but again, this is their family and so yes, they’re hurt by it all. I don’t think they’re crying “victim” but rather expressing their hurt and anger as that’s all they can talk about at this time. This is still an ongoing case.
@@ladanacrews4857 i see your point of view and respect it, nonetheless as hurt as they, I would focus on the real victims who where literally physically and psychologically scared who happen to be kids, help them that I forget about myself as an adult for a little while irrespective of our side voices, but am not in their shoes, them shouting victimhood just belittles the real victims
@@theelephantintheroom6172 I see it differently. They are addressing their viewers and only talking about their feelings and the relationship they had with their sister Ruby out of respect for the privacy and well being of their nieces and nephews. Both Bonnie and Julie mentioned Shari as she’s an adult and they’ve reconciled with her and have her permission. Plus, the judge has told them not to talk about the minor children. Ruby’s actions hurt all of them. The fact that their nieces and nephews whom they hadn’t been allowed contact with were horribly abused hurts them too. You can be hurt on multiple levels by a situation such as this and only talk about one level of it. I lost my younger sister to mental illness and there are times I talk about how hurt I am by her final act and other times I may talk about the pain she inflicted on her 2 children by her final act. Although, I am free to speak to both my hurt and her children’s hurt because it’s not an ongoing case. I hope I made a little sense of that. I’m just so tired of all the criticism and judgement from complete strangers who don’t have all of the facts but are so quick to speak vile things. If you’ve ever dealt with a family member who is mentally ill, and Ruby has to be, then you know the hoops you jump through or the egg shells you walk on not to exacerbate their illness or cause more family division. It’s hard, even impossible to navigate sometimes.
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@@ladanacrews4857Ruby’s sisters are ALSO exploiting their children and using them as cash cows. Bonnie’s content and treatment of her children is also very disturbing. They all seem way more concerned about their social media platforms than what’s happened to the children. They did nothing for years because they are all infected by the same tree. Putting your children’s entire lives online for strangers to see is extremely damaging to them and is abuse! No one helped the Franke kids until it was nearly too late even though there was evidence they were being exploited and psychologically abused for years. Are we going to let the same thing happen to her sister’s children? Anyone continuing to support this family are supporting child exploitation!
Im sorry what does his divorce have to do with this situation?
He wants attention. LOL
Not directly with Ruby & Jodi but is pointing out how Bonnie & Ellie’s families were toxic and how that affected his family.
@kimmychan1967 the few times he saw them?
@@brendad940 you can see his video explaining more on Carl Crusher
@@brendad940it was more about them grooming his wife.
We need legislation now!
Family is still saying they didnt know while Ruby is posting her abuse on camera and the world was watching and trying to fight it, family turned a blind eye and the sheeple still supporting them is jaw dropping. Glad carl got out of it and is talking.
Now its time for the adult victims to sue her and leave her broke and go after the lds church
Very articulate and well spoken.
Religion instills feelings of sin and shame, then blames their victims.
He has a very informative perspective here.
Oh, they lived a double life! Utterly disgusting behavior off camera. Imo, Please keep those kids away from those sisters!
I use to watch Bonnie. I stopped two years ago after what I witnessed. But now those videos are gone. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Same
What exactly did you witness?
What I didn’t witness involved some peanut butter, and the abuse of a pet dog at a party. But I did hear the story. I think it’s a very sick family.
Does not change what they did to kids they can try explaining that they knew nothing and family all those sisters are doing is trying to save there UA-cam blog as it is there income. They all are in some way responsible for not helping these kids. I just hope the system does not fail these kids anymore.
There are some people who aren’t meant to be parents, clearly , but that’s not even a fathomable thing in the Mormon religion. You are expected to reproduce and excessively. I can imagine the resentment one would feel and it’s so deeply rooted they probably don’t even realize it! That said there is extra craziness happening here and the mother/ therapist lady are definitely narcissists.
Well said. I never thought about the unconscious regret or anger a parent may have if they didn't want a child and felt forced to because of their religious circumstances.
That's a good point, Ruby even said she had 6 kids because her mom had 5 so she wanted to "one up" her mom like it was a competition
family vloggers need to be shut down
This guy posted family content and pranks and all sorts of nonsense. Not sure what the cause of his divorce was but pretty sure I would not take his opinion over anyone else on this debarcle.
Rubie has mental health problems and Jodi is a lesbian who has a relationship with Rubie and manipulates Rubie Jodi is a narcissist ❤
Jodi has mental problems too!! All Psychs have mental prpblems!! But no one ever listens because they think Mental Health professionals can be trusted 🤦🏻♀️ They don’t even need brain scans to proof anything and people will believe everything they say.
There is a great book called Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. It doesn't involve religion or spirituality of any kind. It explains so much. There's an entire series on healing from abusive selfish parents like these. Mine were the same. I mean literally the same. My father loved using duct tape.
bs - sounds like someone is just sour his wife left him. Ruby & Jodi are the ones to blame here.
Bonnie Hollein puts her teenage daughter in terrible situations online. She had an entire video about her daughters first period. How horrible for the children who are exploited for views and money.
I did not see this with Bonnie, but Ruby did. Check your facts.
Bonnie emotionally tortured her youngest son when he is a baby! He was crying and she kept doing it. She also claimed that her daughter had a black eye because she fell out of a bunk bed.
Great interview
Carl your So right! Glad u have moved on!!!
There is a ton hidden in Utah, and a lot of pressure on the people who attend as they feel they need to look perfect and invest a lot of time serving and looking like your family is perfect. It’s all about works.
What's with all the triggered mormons on here. Yall SHOULD be questioning what your church is promoting and your church promoted Jody. What does that say?
Jodi is the super abuser. The kids were in her home alone. PLEASE watch Jessi Hildebrandts full discloser as she was close to jodi and reveals all of the abuses and trauma Jodi finds as a Godly way to help people. But she was programming her clients.
Its really horrible when someone victimizes a victim when they should of helped them.
At last an interviewee who says it as it is . Thank you for that
I’m sorry but he had the same type of channel and exposed his own children?
Exactly, where id's his moral high ground?
Yes, and he regrets it!
Carl publicly condemns family vlogging as exploitation and no longer does
Great video! Thank you for speaking out!
This guy does not know anything.
What he says literally confirms that Ruby's sisters are just as much bad seeds as she is, which I have suspected.
Bc who the f makes a video titled "I'm not my sister! I'm not my sisters crimes!" if ur a worried selfless family member and your nephew obviously has been starved & abused.
If you ever watched some of the sister's videos you'd have known they're all child abusing monsters without this guy having to say a word.
You don’t know this for real, give me a break! Are you a therapist? This guy was filming his family, he just didn’t have the fame, he was close to Ellie and Jared and envious he didn’t get famous.
@@deidrekoehler2882 Yeah I’m a therapist, I wouldn’t be able to think logically if I wasn’t, right?
But sure, YOU know this for real and YOU know what this guy was thinking 🤡
Wow , it is amazing how rampant this behavior has infiltrated content creators. Sounds as though UA-cam needs to monitor the content
of these channels with more scrutiny.
So here this gentleman is saying exactly what I've been saying .
I saw this morning a clip of one of Ruby's sister coming forward and she talks about how none of them knew the extent of abuse that was going on ..And I read comments and couldn't believe what ppl were saying .. Oh we're so.sorry your family is being dragged into this story. W H A T ????
I then comnented that shes only worried about her $ coming from her followers.
They"re ALL.complicit and it all has to do with.the LDS church & Bishops..
I also commented WHY are ppl following these people's lives.
Go out and nake your own lives.. you're funneling a cult by following these ppl..they take your money and give it to the mormon church.and the church turns their cheek when it comes to any criminal.behavior ..
Chad Daybell's sister-in-law did a 3 part interview she too talks about going to her Bishops.and reporting Chad...Nothing was done !!! So.his wife...Lori's husband , children.&.brother.all dead .. ND the church did Nothing... that case went worldwide.as will this. And more & more people will come out to speak like this gentleman
Another interview one of Ruby's relatives. She spoke about the beatings..handcuffing...and withholding of food that she & her siblings endured.. like this guy she said it was generational abuse..
The church...bishop's...followers need to be EXPOSED
It also appears to me (and I could be wrong)..once you're exposed the church does NOT come to.your defense .. they walk away as if to say Bye you're on your own.. you can't make money for me anymore ..therefore you are No longer useful.
The sorry excuses that the sisters came up with are ridiculous as well
This dude has a ton of videos of his kids. Js
I don’t think I’m the only one to get upset when the other siblings are being attacked or blamed for what their sister did. This is not their crime;
Amen
The siblings are being blamed for what they are doing which is exploiting their children too
Yeah because he used to be a family vlogger and is now against family vlogging after seeing what it does and what happens behind the scenes, he has a great in depth video on the subject. It’s very obvious that you just joined this conversation after the recent events which is obviously okay but for those of us that have been having it for years there is a good reason to put some blame on the sisters. Not only do they exploit their children for money all of the things that caused concern for the childrens wellbeing for years about Ruby her sister does as well. Also the sisters had been in contact with Ruby’s oldest child after she got away from her parents so I don’t believe for a second that Sharri didn’t tell her aunts or uncle what was happening behind closed doors in that house, IMO they did the bare minimum and didn’t speak out for those kids because they didn’t want to ruin their image and they didn’t want to be called out for their own ab*sive behavior which is at the very least psychological and emotional. It’s not their crime but they definitely aren’t innocent either.
I knew Ruby's siblings were also weird. @4:31
Just watching them all crawl out of the woodwork now, crying in front of the camera with their lashes done and attempting to seem completely blindsided by Ruby's parenting...BS. That entire family needs to be checked.
I’m so glad you brought insight into the big umbrella of LDS Mormon culture. So much of these poor decisions are due to faith.
The more Carl talks, the less I believe him. He gets subs and views because of a story that may or may not be true. He's probably just mad because his wife left him. He made sure to not use their actual names, so he won't get sued. So I call bull. Everyone crawls out now for their few minutes of fame. And probably making a few bucks with it.
Awesome reporter awesome question’s 👍🏻💯
FINALLY!!!!!! A channel and a PERSON calling out the LDS CULT!!!😮😮😮, have been posting about it to everything I watch about these heinous idiots …but no one seems to be holding them accountable, THE CULT has been hiding this “therapists” actions for years…please someone hold them accountable also😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😮
I am cousins with Jared mecham who's wife is sisters with ruby. the mormon church is a cult
Correction his channel is Carl crusher
@@mannlaurai think Barbara means Ellie and Jared. Carl and his wife were their friends until they decided to wife swap and other disgusting stuff. Carl goes into details on his channel.
The LDS covered child SA in that scandal with the Boy Scouts which was larger than the Catholic scandals. Jodi Hildebrandt tried to destroy whistleblower Adam Steed's adult life with a referral by the Bishop. Adam's story is on HiddenTrueCrime and Mormon Stories here on UA-cam. Jodi's niece Jessi also has an abuse story she had to escape without LDS help. She took was starved and duck taped and filed a police report at age 16. Now the case has been reopened.
@@AB-mx1deI don’t believe the wife swap allegations for one second.
@@ladanacrews4857 Ruby Franke herself made lewd jokes about her eldest son and daughter making a cute couple, how she looked forward to "licking" her children when she saw them next (doing a demonstration to the camera) and also implied the eldest daughter and her male cousin were romantically involved. So I would not put anything past this family.
Great info 👌
I don't seem that her husband has ever been the spiritual leader of their home
A good counselor will unite a family, not divide😢
Well said, man. You are brave,honest and real. Thanks for explaining this.
I didn't know there was that significant of a connection with the LDS church,Jodi and certain family vloggers/content creators like that...yikes!! What a destructive environment for families and kiddos 😢 That church is an ab*se factory. I've heard that my whole life and now I know it's true.
I love how you (and others) are coming forward with the truth like this.
Wow great interview…. I hope this gentleman tells all he know to authorities
This is an outrageous claim. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has nothing to do with this case whatsoever. The church does not condone abuse whatsoever. Ruby Franke made her own choices. She is the one accountable.
Yep
The church had everything to do with this. They were the ones who sent people to Jodi. The one thing I have learned about the Mormon Church through this whole thing is that they are very corrupt.
I couldn’t even finish this. Quit blaming the church for Ruby’s choices.
Just because you can't handle the truth, doesn't mean the rest of us want to live in ignorance. The issue from the church is coverup. Instead of being forthright and addressing the abuse, they chose to hide it. That makes the church culpable to what happened. If they start calling child protective services, like everyone else is supposed to, then stories like these wouldn't be a "Mormon church" story. Rather it would be just an "abusive parent" story.
LDS paid Jodi Hildebrandt for therapies for its members. There is a larger systemic issue here in the LDS church which had a Boy Scout SA scandal with 1/3 abused LDS and Bishops didn't report, but enabled. The whistleblower to that Adam Steed had his adult life destroyed by Jodie Hildebrandt on a referral from the LDS. Rubi Franke is just another layer of fresh hell of LDS scandals.
Your attitude is why the Mormon church continues to hide abuse. Because church defenders want to bury their heads on the sand.
@@sandramccrea9787 The Church *does* call legal authorities and CPS. I have first-hand experience in this. Bishops are advised to immediately report abusive or criminal behavior.
There seems to be a pattern of crime with women mormons operating allegedly in the name of God. From Lori Vallow to the women killing their husbands and children, something appears very wrong with the doctrines of this church. Ominous.
I understand that when Jodi had her licence suspended, the Church quit recommending her. I heard she would use members by pretending she was an upstanding member to keep making money.
I have to think that once her methods were known, she was axed. Her behavior and methods are evil. Just plain evil.
Exactly, the Church isn't responsible for her deceit.
No, she still worked with the Church after her license was re issued, let’s not forget that she worked with these Bishops for more than two decades. She has the goods on each and every one of them, watch and see, they will protect her. They are doing so already, IMO. A reporter asked a representative why her license hasn’t been revoked since all of this broke. His answer was that no one was in imminent danger, so two young children are rescued from her HOME, both injured physically and mentally, starving and bound isn’t enough information to revoke her license.
I guess the Mormon Church really does have their hands throughout all levels of Government in the State of Utah.
I hope both of these trials are moved out of this State, if the Prosecutors want an unbiased Jury, they need to have it moved out of Utah.
@@janshe3597no, the church removed her from their referral list in 2012 when Adam’s case came to light. Salt Lake Tribune reported on it at that time.
This whole thing is like a nuclear plant melt-down. It's very bad at first and then it just gets worse and worse.
This channel has really done a great job covering this story. Coming in after the fact, I have no idea why anyone was watching ANY of the content from these women. What are people thinking? It isn't informative. It isn't entertaining.
Bonnie puts out another video saying they didn't know when all the while ruby never stopped posting her videos of her abuse and the world saw and tried to fight it ...and her siblings are now saying they didn't know. The amount of sheeples still supporting Bonnie is jaw dropping.
@@DaniellaR-xp4cp Agreed!! They all need to get a real job. It's sad when someone's only content is their kids.
Oh my god for the longest time I was wondering and wondering trying to put my finger on what family channel Carl was from, I KNEW I recognized him from not only 8 passengers vlogs but I also remember him from his own family channel and I could not put my finger on which one it was and I FINALLY remembered!! This is Carl from Carl and Ginger!! I am SO SHOOK! They just disappeared off of the face of UA-cam now that I’m thinking back on it 😮 this case just keeps getting deeper and deeper, these women have destroyed their own families and friends, and their spider web of disturbing behaviour was just spreading and infecting everyone around them. As more and more individuals come forward, and more information is leaked it couldn’t be more apparent that these women are exactly where they need to be. Disgusting.
Man can decieve and men can be decieved. Jodi and Ruby are bad Mormons. And all the family members who knew of this abuse
This is good reporting. I hope people investigate her whole family and don’t buy the perfect mask
Excellent Interview
Jodi has been paid off by church for years
I have listened to this guy on other channels. He seems to have only one story with the gross behavior. I don't doubt him. He needs to spill some more tea on the Franke family.
I’m curious what this man’s channel was about. Were his children filmed as well and why the sudden change?
Marriage is your responsibility, not theirs
The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have nothing to do with people’s poor choices. You are responsible for your own choices including you’re divorce
This is stupid, what this crazy ladies did is nothing about LDS church, this dude seems very resentful about "mormons" wich a get that, but don't judge everyone, there are good people doing good things, Tim Ballard is a good example.