Lawyer for Ruby Franke’s Husband Tells All: 'He Wanted an Immediate Divorce'

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    Kevin Franke’s attorney says divorce paperwork will soon be served to disgraced UA-cam “momfluencer” Ruby Franke as she sits behind bars in Utah. The creator of the once-popular “8 Passengers” channel is facing six felony charges of child abuse. The Law&Crime Network’s Jesse Weber catches up with Randy Kester, Kevin Franke’s attorney, to find out what led to this point and where the family goes from here.
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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  5 місяців тому +37

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    • @Emerelle03
      @Emerelle03 5 місяців тому +4

      Two ad breaks are a little much, dont you think?

    • @westpalmbeachphotostudios66
      @westpalmbeachphotostudios66 5 місяців тому +10

      @@Emerelle03 every video I’ve watched in the last few weeks has had 2 ads and smaller skip buttons. UA-cam is becoming less watchable by the day

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical 5 місяців тому +1

      @@westpalmbeachphotostudios66 I believe the people creating the video select how many ads they want to include, the skipping ones that is.

    • @stardustgirl2904
      @stardustgirl2904 Місяць тому +2

      The kid's don't need to be anywhere near the parents.

  • @weirdo5424
    @weirdo5424 5 місяців тому +1332

    I 100% guarantee you that the ONLY reason why he filed for divorce is simply so that he doesn’t have to face any civil liabilities.

    • @Uncle_Sham
      @Uncle_Sham 5 місяців тому +33

      Who is gonna sue him? His own kids?

    • @kevintrotter2025
      @kevintrotter2025 5 місяців тому +4

      👍

    • @Loriann4444
      @Loriann4444 5 місяців тому +113

      After the way he treated his daughter I think hes scum.

    • @TuxieTude
      @TuxieTude 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@littlebit66624Clueless 😂

    • @zanpsimer7685
      @zanpsimer7685 5 місяців тому +54

      And to get his kids back to keep them under his thumb.

  • @magenright77
    @magenright77 5 місяців тому +525

    This is the same man that wanted her oldest daughter put in jail
    Dad of the year 🙄

    • @HughMadBro
      @HughMadBro 5 місяців тому +43

      & sent Chad to a boot camp for a prank & had him sleeping without a door & on a bean bag/floor for months!!!

    • @SubliminalCriminal4
      @SubliminalCriminal4 5 місяців тому +28

      They all need to be in jail.

    • @neurotoxicity
      @neurotoxicity 5 місяців тому +15

      but dont worry him and shari are "best friends now" 💀 this lawyer is such a clown

    • @neurotoxicity
      @neurotoxicity 5 місяців тому +4

      @@HughMadBrono, the boot camp was first, then when he got home he pulled the prank and got his room taken. its much worse than it sounds.

    • @SubliminalCriminal4
      @SubliminalCriminal4 5 місяців тому +9

      @neurotoxicity heartbreaking. Wonder if it every dawned on these idiots that perhaps all the intense, strict parenting just wasn't producing perfect children and to go the opposite route and try loving them. I have kids. It was heartbreaking to watch some of the videos.

  • @UnseenOct
    @UnseenOct 5 місяців тому +826

    He acts as if there isn't video evidence of very bizarre and abusive parenting techniques for years. Where was he then?

    • @lauralovescoffee9290
      @lauralovescoffee9290 5 місяців тому +66

      He was THERE

    • @UnseenOct
      @UnseenOct 5 місяців тому +32

      @@lauralovescoffee9290 yeup, exactly

    • @kariannsutherland4850
      @kariannsutherland4850 5 місяців тому +38

      Exactly he is complicit

    • @albussnape2
      @albussnape2 5 місяців тому +41

      Yup-we saw him-he was living in the home-he was complicit in how they raised the kids, and he was part of the cult behavior.

    • @melissafischer5892
      @melissafischer5892 5 місяців тому +23

      He was helping enflict it💀

  • @Ro_B_16
    @Ro_B_16 5 місяців тому +440

    Kevin enabled every punishment the kids were given over many years. He is an utter coward. We see through this charade!!

    • @HughMadBro
      @HughMadBro 5 місяців тому +8

      Preach 🙏🏻🙌🏻 I'm commenting so hopefully your comment goes to the top.

    • @Ro_B_16
      @Ro_B_16 5 місяців тому +3

      @@HughMadBro Thank you! 😊 🙏

    • @SchoolHouseRudd
      @SchoolHouseRudd 5 місяців тому +6

      Yep and by doing so caused emotional harm, as Ruby’s charges state! He allowed it by not acting!

    • @Ro_B_16
      @Ro_B_16 5 місяців тому +4

      @@SchoolHouseRudd Exactly. It beggars belief!!

    • @pattyward710
      @pattyward710 5 місяців тому +1

      thats excactly what I see!

  • @aces2342
    @aces2342 Місяць тому +32

    During the videotaped police interview, he was informed they were in the hospital from being abused. HE NEVER ASKED HOW THEY WERE!

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail Місяць тому +4

      not once

    • @scarlett8127
      @scarlett8127 Місяць тому +3

      His only concern was the papers in a brown satual, the money in the house ,and he loves his wife. Oy..

    • @quiltmania58
      @quiltmania58 Місяць тому +1

      I found that weird too. And the fact that he asked for the definition of "emaciated." I found that so hard to believe. His demeanor was so off to me.

  • @musicg1696
    @musicg1696 5 місяців тому +503

    The way Kev treated his daughter is inexcusable! For the children, I hope he is not ever awarded custody. He seems like a cold and calculating character.

    • @jessyncust76
      @jessyncust76 5 місяців тому +20

      He's def not getting them but he doesn't wanna be charged so he gotta distance himself

    • @wolf2966
      @wolf2966 5 місяців тому +18

      I hate to say it I hope the daughter doesn’t obtain custody either it’s hard to tell where the kids should go but in my opinion none of the Frankie’s or any other Mormon based family members related to them shouldn’t obtain custody

    • @luciaconn6788
      @luciaconn6788 5 місяців тому +3

      he seems mad and sad to me. Jodi brought out the worst in Ruby, Ruby chose her over Kevin!

    • @Neptune_on_pawzz393
      @Neptune_on_pawzz393 5 місяців тому +1

      💯💯💯

    • @pattyward710
      @pattyward710 5 місяців тому +11

      I saw one of there videos where he was going through his sons phone at the dinner table, making fun that he liked a girl, in front of the family! he sounds like a jerk!

  • @kayleesykes2739
    @kayleesykes2739 5 місяців тому +107

    Purely damage control. Less than five months ago, he tried to get his daughter put in jail for taking items that the entire family had access to. He’s an abuser as well.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail Місяць тому +2

      yeah, wonder what was on that computer

  • @jillschneider2953
    @jillschneider2953 5 місяців тому +94

    He wanted an immediate divorce ONLY after she got arrested after years of being complicit in her BS. Too little, too late.

    • @KB-ld6ql
      @KB-ld6ql 4 місяці тому +3

      Survival technique. To late though. Like over year to late.

  • @Withal_And
    @Withal_And 5 місяців тому +60

    “Desperately” trying to get back to his family without ever once trying to call or visit them… sure

  • @shayshaymann113
    @shayshaymann113 5 місяців тому +552

    Wow, Kevin is calculated!! How convenient that he all of a sudden wants to file for divorce. He’s desperately pulling at anything to avoid getting prison time, because he’s absolutely just as culpable and I hope the judge sees right through this manipulation tactic!
    His attorney aggravates the crap out of me 😠

    • @anonymouslyconcerned
      @anonymouslyconcerned 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@PlutogalaxyIt could, utah is too full of the same cloth as he

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy 5 місяців тому +6

      That really doesn't make sense. Divorce in situations like this is very common.

    • @Alphakilo84
      @Alphakilo84 5 місяців тому +2

      Jody probably told him to do it

    • @jessyncust76
      @jessyncust76 5 місяців тому +3

      That is HIS JOB to defend him whether we like it or not lol

    • @kathrynbillinghurst188
      @kathrynbillinghurst188 5 місяців тому +6

      Even so…I’d divorce her for sure as soon as Jodi stepped in!
      He was probably enjoying his “appointed” freedoms anyway…thanx to Jodi!!!

  • @evilqueenyiayia
    @evilqueenyiayia 5 місяців тому +128

    So he didn't see his young children for over a year??? Maybe not see your spouse, but not seeing your children? No the lawyer can't say they weren't subjected to corporal punishment, they were subjected to way more. Shame on him. 😐

    • @KB-ld6ql
      @KB-ld6ql 4 місяці тому +3

      He's guilty as sin. Mormon guilty is greater than sin itself. Kicked out of the cult and jail is earned here in spades. Dad of the Year award = 20 years to think about it.

  • @lizlarsen1653
    @lizlarsen1653 5 місяців тому +305

    In my opinion, he is trying to keep from being charged with a crime, but he is also trying to keep Ruby from using all their assets for her defense. Self-serving, 100%. He has never really cared about his children, as proved on 8 years of UA-cam video.

    • @HughMadBro
      @HughMadBro 5 місяців тому +4

      Wonder if yt cut him a check after yeeting their platform 👀🤷🏼‍♀️ & who's getting any income still comin into the house... like brands that haven't stopped paying & such.

    • @janetmoquin7828
      @janetmoquin7828 5 місяців тому +7

      Oh, puleeze your client is every bit as abusive as his wife. A very sick man

    • @jacquelineglitter4328
      @jacquelineglitter4328 5 місяців тому +8

      Yes. He'll probably get half of the house and half of the money they made off those poor kids.

    • @FearMyLadyBits
      @FearMyLadyBits 5 місяців тому +6

      Actually, I think it's the opposite. I think he's still in cahoots with Ruby and they're getting all the assets out of her name because of possible fines and court costs, and they feel a lawsuit coming for the millions they made exploiting their children, and like the Duggars they don't want the kids to have any. Like when Prince Andrew was getting sued, all his assets and titles were reverted back to the crown so they couldn't be touched if he's found guilty.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@FearMyLadyBits Which is why he wants the kids. His lawyer spoke about how he'd need extra money coming in as she wouldn't be in a position to work (being in prison) and pay maintenance for them, (if I heard right) .

  • @ClarityAmor
    @ClarityAmor 5 місяців тому +112

    He is 100000000000% as guilty as his WIFE, Ruby! Why isn't he behind bars??? Those kids need justice! Lock him up!

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому +2

      Apparently the experts know more about his part in all this than you do.

    • @CCM111
      @CCM111 4 місяці тому

      @@gointothedogs4634 he’s not innocent in this at all. Should be behind bars as well.

  • @erinmalone2669
    @erinmalone2669 5 місяців тому +88

    She was doing terrible things to her kids before she met Jody. He knew

    • @ninamenon
      @ninamenon 5 місяців тому +6

      Absolutely. You think he didn't notice one if the children wasn't allowed to eat dinner? Was going to bed HUNGRY? Things like that happened all of the time.

    • @hsk2909
      @hsk2909 5 місяців тому +8

      It is very evident from their 8 passengers videos that he went along with EVERYTHING Ruby decided, and all sorts of cruel punishments were not off the table with him either. He willfully neglected his minor children for over a year with an absolutely bs excuse that he's offering now. If alarm bells doesn't ring when a therapist tells you to LEAVE your family and have no contact, and you BELIEVE her and do as she says, there is something wrong with you or you just do NOT care! He NEGLECTED his younger children in my book and blaming it on Jodi is pathetic. He's an ADULT man ffs!

    • @KB-ld6ql
      @KB-ld6ql 4 місяці тому

      ​@hsk2909 He's simply a criminal. Let the jury decide his fate.

  • @bellasworld679
    @bellasworld679 5 місяців тому +123

    Kevin trying to send his daughter to jail tells me all I need to know guilty as well 😠😠

    • @SchoolHouseRudd
      @SchoolHouseRudd 5 місяців тому +5

      Thank you!!!!

    • @janetmoquin7828
      @janetmoquin7828 5 місяців тому +8

      I hope he never gets custody or even sees those kids again!

    • @lizsowerby3868
      @lizsowerby3868 5 місяців тому

      Apparently they both chatted together and spent thanksgiving together along with chad

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla 5 місяців тому +1

      @@lizsowerby3868Where did you hear that? At this point, with THIS lawyer distorting the truth of so much reality, I really would only believe that if I heard it from Sherri. She’s the literally ONLY person directly involved with this case I’ve seen so far who focuses on what truly matters: the kids, their safety, and protection for them.
      The fact Kevin’s lawyer couldn’t even say how they are shows, to me, how little he cares about the well-being of the kids.

    • @LoveSponge007
      @LoveSponge007 5 місяців тому

      @@lizsowerby3868you forgot their also “best friends” now

  • @ElysiumRose
    @ElysiumRose 5 місяців тому +250

    He had to know. I don't believe he didn't know. Also, how do you let your wife's best friend and partner be your marriage counselor? Makes no sense at all.

    • @TheBmco99
      @TheBmco99 5 місяців тому +4

      They were manipulating him. He was in love with her. He was doing anything he could to stay with her who knows what those two women were doing together. 🐍

    • @LilyBecca
      @LilyBecca 5 місяців тому +20

      Also, I thought the man was the leader of the household in Morman families. I just don't see how a Morman man would let some outside female come in and be the boss of him and his family.

    • @jeanniepiller3421
      @jeanniepiller3421 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@TheBmco99
      Yes, I agree with you. I mean look at all the people in cults. Mature, educated people. Indoctrination happens slowly and methodically. The cult leaders don't need to be following a pre-determined plan. They are already experts at manipulation because they've been doing it all their lives. And sometimes I've heard deprogrammed members say that during a period of lesser contact, certain facts or ideas were entertained and it seemed to them that it felt like a light bulb just went off in their heads and they were astonished that they could have ever believed what they did. It's not always like that. I think it's more common to come out of it slowly.

    • @albussnape2
      @albussnape2 5 місяців тому +8

      LDS indoctrination + the cult indoctrination

    • @jessyncust76
      @jessyncust76 5 місяців тому +8

      His defense is he wasn't allowed to be around for the better part of the year ..but he was in those other videos prior to that leap year

  • @pamrieder8719
    @pamrieder8719 5 місяців тому +91

    So Kevin knew his both kids were malnourished and tied up and he was just “upset”. Wouldn’t you be beyond yourself and also feel immense guilt for not protecting them ?

    • @ngarcia103
      @ngarcia103 5 місяців тому +7

      And he's trying to hide behind the excuse that Ruby, through Jodi, told him to stay away from her and the kids.
      There's no way that excuse should hold up. "Because my wife and her business partner told me to" should not be a defense.

    • @Loriann4444
      @Loriann4444 5 місяців тому +7

      What kind of father stays away from his kids for 14 months. Hes guilty

    • @berlinsemo2645
      @berlinsemo2645 5 місяців тому

      No, he was more upset about the front door getting damaged 🤦‍♀️. He’s a real tool. Coward.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical 5 місяців тому +1

      Exactly!

    • @susanhighfield8284
      @susanhighfield8284 Місяць тому

      He didn't, though.

  • @chetyoubetya8565
    @chetyoubetya8565 5 місяців тому +25

    His daughter contacted him many times when the mom started leaving the kids for weeks how does he explain that away

  • @Ali.Bruni143
    @Ali.Bruni143 5 місяців тому +212

    I find it hard to believe that he wasn’t involved at all. He’s trying to feign innocent and separating himself from her.

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 5 місяців тому +5

      Not a shred of evidence supports your wild, irrational speculation.

    • @loremolina1702
      @loremolina1702 5 місяців тому +23

      ​@@-MattMcCauley-its called COMMON SENSE.!

    • @cherie623
      @cherie623 5 місяців тому +15

      What upsets me is the older kids were in that house and couldn't do a thing😔 They lived in fear

    • @Ali.Bruni143
      @Ali.Bruni143 5 місяців тому +8

      @@-MattMcCauley- must have a man crush or something.. Or just zero logic 🎪

    • @mirzamay
      @mirzamay 5 місяців тому +3

      Bingo!

  • @patman147
    @patman147 5 місяців тому +87

    Kevins lawyer says it hasn't crossed his mind that Kevin could be called as a witness in his wife's trial. He is full of crap.

    • @axemangang1584
      @axemangang1584 5 місяців тому +14

      The lawyer is full of BS on so many things.

    • @toroverde9329
      @toroverde9329 5 місяців тому +6

      The lawyer is a Mormon as well

    • @SchoolHouseRudd
      @SchoolHouseRudd 5 місяців тому +7

      @@toroverde9329probably paid for by the LDS.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 5 місяців тому +8

      Kevin should be a defendant, same as Jodi and Ruby.

    • @FearMyLadyBits
      @FearMyLadyBits 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@SchoolHouseRudd the LDS is definitely protecting Kevin, possibly Ruby. Jodie they're throwing under the bus as a useless female.

  • @AngelaNortonTyler
    @AngelaNortonTyler 5 місяців тому +53

    This lawyer is doing Franke no favors by making him look so weak and gullible. Why should he get custody when he couldn't protect his children? He listened to everything she said and followed her rules? Boy, bye.

  • @andyminsky9435
    @andyminsky9435 5 місяців тому +31

    Jesse, what about child abandonment under Utah law? Kevin has parental duties which he potentially criminally failed to fulfil for over a year. Why didn't you ask him *that*?

    • @jodibraun6383
      @jodibraun6383 Місяць тому +1

      I want to know this too.
      According to Utah law, Kevin spent more than twice the amount of time away from his kids than what Utah considers child abandonment. Why does everyone skip over the fact that he hasn't been charged?

  • @nellsun2521
    @nellsun2521 5 місяців тому +63

    How would his lawyer know what Kevin's gut feeling was?! And if Kevin "wanted to do what's best for his kids" why'd he abandon them for a whole year?!

    • @jacquelineglitter4328
      @jacquelineglitter4328 5 місяців тому +4

      Yes he's so hypocritical.

    • @helenllama
      @helenllama 5 місяців тому +1

      Coercion. There is a reason coercive control is IPV

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 5 місяців тому +4

      It was 18 months, what a shame. A father should not do that, at all. I don’t care what your crazy wife tell you, do not leave your kids behind.

    • @FearMyLadyBits
      @FearMyLadyBits 5 місяців тому +1

      if Kevin was smart, he told his lawyer EVERYTHING. But this is what lawyers do, they try to put their clients in the best possible light.

    • @BallsofArt
      @BallsofArt 5 місяців тому +1

      @@FearMyLadyBits yes and the lawyer is smart enough to not slip up at all

  • @eponack
    @eponack 5 місяців тому +31

    Yeah, loving father who wanted his daughter arrested for collect items from the house for the children she was watching. Really great parenting.

    • @KB-ld6ql
      @KB-ld6ql 4 місяці тому

      Oh they got together and put this little misunderstanding behind them. RIGHT! CULT MANIPULATION AT WORK HERE. Members of the church applying pressure on the oldest daughter TOO I'm sure.

  • @sallyannchappell5671
    @sallyannchappell5671 5 місяців тому +36

    His lawyer didn’t think he’d be called as a witness in a court case against Ruby? What rot!

    • @janetshemaryahu5529
      @janetshemaryahu5529 5 місяців тому +3

      That’s the moment we know that this “authentic” looking lawyer is false!! Shame on him, if he’s a God-fearing man.

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla 5 місяців тому +1

      @@janetshemaryahu5529I don’t envy defense attorneys, but this one is truly slime. He doesn’t care about the kids’ safety and well being at all, as evidenced by the fact he couldn’t be bothered to give an update or look into how they’re doing.

  • @SilverHairSimmer
    @SilverHairSimmer 5 місяців тому +67

    I just asked my husband if we went to therapy and were told he needs to move out and not have communication with the kids or me for a year what would he do.
    Spoiler: get an attorney

    • @theresawolfe1607
      @theresawolfe1607 5 місяців тому +15

      My guess is yall aint mormon..lol.

    • @SilverHairSimmer
      @SilverHairSimmer 5 місяців тому +6

      @@theresawolfe1607 nope, heathens through and through

    • @chameleonsoule314
      @chameleonsoule314 5 місяців тому +3

      He’s a smart man.

    • @MS-zh6yf
      @MS-zh6yf 5 місяців тому +1

      @@SilverHairSimmersame, girl

    • @carolmorgan7998
      @carolmorgan7998 5 місяців тому

      This whole thing is about a few peoples individual choices...they could be among ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE!

  • @nellsun2521
    @nellsun2521 5 місяців тому +42

    There's countless hours of UA-cam video of Kevin failing to reel Ruby in when she was starving her kids; or depriving them of beds; etc.

    • @SchoolHouseRudd
      @SchoolHouseRudd 5 місяців тому +4

      Literally clips of him committing the same charges as she is accused of.

  • @bridgettjochum2337
    @bridgettjochum2337 5 місяців тому +31

    Hmmm…maybe the only reason he is divorcing her is to protect all their assets ?

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 4 місяці тому +3

      Not all, but at least his half.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail Місяць тому +1

      and the restitution monies from the Hildebrandt estate

  • @user-ux9bg9cb2j
    @user-ux9bg9cb2j 5 місяців тому +79

    He is trying to distance himself from her so they wont come after him. They were together when she was treating them terribly and he never stopped her. He just wants to get the kids back without her and the conquesences of the stuff going on in the home.

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 5 місяців тому +2

      He was out of the home for the past YEAR, genius--and he was KEPT FROM the kids, which is incredibly easy for women to do under our grossly mother-favoring family courts.

    • @AmandaMolly
      @AmandaMolly 5 місяців тому

      That is what many aren't getting. Yes he is guilty prior to Jodi being involved 100% but he was made to separate from his wife for the health of Ruby and Kevin's relationship for his kids. He probably wanted to get his children out of the situation but if he did things would go horribly wrong as Jodi is the ring leader. @@-MattMcCauley-

    • @LizaFergison
      @LizaFergison 5 місяців тому +11

      @@-MattMcCauley- Wrong. He and Ruby invited Jodi into their life in 2018. He followed everything Jodi suggested. There is plenty of evidence of his own mistreatment of the children. He lost his job at BYU because his students constantly complained about his treatment of them. His reviews were simply awful. He wants total control of the money. He is the sole owner of their home. He wanted his eldest daughter charged with breaking and entering his house. The police told him that they broke into the house, so he wanted her charged with theft. All she had done was go in to collect clothing and items belonging to his other kids. He's a monster and a coward.

    • @mirzamay
      @mirzamay 5 місяців тому +11

      Don't forget he refused to answer phone calls from his kids while the torture was going on. No 💩 given. He wasn't "kept" from the kids by any court. He just f'd on off when he was told to by ruby and frankly didn't care at all about the kids.

    • @stephj3331
      @stephj3331 5 місяців тому +1

      @@-MattMcCauley-no court kept him from his kids. He chose to stay away.

  • @SawyerSays999
    @SawyerSays999 5 місяців тому +10

    His lawyer is lying through his teeth when he says they never discussed him being a potential witness

  • @americansunbeam
    @americansunbeam 5 місяців тому +23

    He was an accomplice in this sick behavior. Now, he wants to save his butt

  • @cov9445
    @cov9445 5 місяців тому +41

    I wanna hear from the older kids

    • @slconley
      @slconley 5 місяців тому +2

      Same, I doubt everything is hunky dory

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 4 місяці тому

      Me too, but I think they are ashamed.

  • @andreazavala4193
    @andreazavala4193 5 місяців тому +54

    Are we going to ignore the videos (those of us who knew how abusive they were towards the kids whey they had their UA-cam channel ) HE WAS THERE! Kevin is also guilty !

  • @Mark-hn5bm
    @Mark-hn5bm 5 місяців тому +142

    As a parent there is absolutely no possible way that he didn’t know there was something very wrong at best, and who knows what skeletons are in his closet. I went through a divorce and I knew exactly what was going on with both of my young children at the time and the state of their well being. So she told him they had to be separated and he couldn’t see the children and he said ok? Yeah sure. There’s definitely more to the story.

    • @critterscute3642
      @critterscute3642 5 місяців тому +8

      Agree. And he was so very concerned about all the electronics he loaded into his trunk. And so angry at his daughter for taking them. Definitely hiding something.

    • @JoBlo321
      @JoBlo321 5 місяців тому +7

      @@critterscute3642 That's instantly what I thought when I saw that vid. Why would he be angry? Hmmmm there must be something really incriminating in the stuff that she took. I'm just hoping the daughter got copies of whatever that was before returning it. Kevin is a complete Scuz...he's very transparent in his actions. And when you have a defense attorney on speaking for their client...you know everything he's saying is complete and utter BS! He's being paid to -say that- lie!

    • @critterscute3642
      @critterscute3642 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JoBlo321 Oh yeah. Scuz to the max!

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 4 місяці тому +1

      Today Ruby pleaded guilty, and I know Jodi will do the same. There will be no trial. The church probably knew everything that was going on. They are the cause many families are destroyed. IMHO, the church knows the are many skeletons in these peoples closets. I am betting my week salary that Jodi will plead guilty soon.

  • @HappyDW
    @HappyDW 5 місяців тому +27

    Kevin ABANDONED his kids. He has no spine

    • @hsk2909
      @hsk2909 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, he's Rubys modelling jello.

  • @janetshemaryahu5529
    @janetshemaryahu5529 5 місяців тому +39

    Kevin’s lawyer: “It hasn’t even crossed my mind he [Kevin] could be called as a witness in the criminal case”?!

    • @GoodatNaps
      @GoodatNaps 5 місяців тому +9

      Then Kevin needs a new lawyer.

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla 5 місяців тому +1

      @@GoodatNapsKevin needs to be a defendant like Ruby and Jody

    • @KB-ld6ql
      @KB-ld6ql 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@HavianEla That lawyer will seal his fate. Perfect

  • @sunnya8
    @sunnya8 5 місяців тому +7

    Kevin absolutely did know that Ruby was controlling, would routinely deny the children food, etc. - that all was happening before Ruby even met Jody. Kevin is a weak man & a liar & needs to be held accountable for looking the other way on some really abusive things.

  • @SoberCartel
    @SoberCartel 5 місяців тому +12

    Makes me sick. This guy demands an immediate divorce from the courts but couldn't demand anything from jodie, let alone immediately. Like move back in with your "wife" and family.

    • @katedaniels9623
      @katedaniels9623 5 місяців тому +1

      When a spouse faces criminal charges and a court trial, getting a divorce will protect financial assets. Ie kevin will keep money that can’t be touched by the courts, by fees, by anything legal

    • @SoberCartel
      @SoberCartel 4 місяці тому +2

      Oh I get the legal part and it shows that is all he is concerned about

  • @childtimematters513
    @childtimematters513 5 місяців тому +10

    How long before he was going to see the kids? He would have some deceased children. No custody for Kevin! No! He failed as a father as has Ruby! No! He should NOT have access to them now! No! Danger alert!

  • @Mom_572
    @Mom_572 5 місяців тому +35

    Just a ploy to get the kids.. He is just as guilty. Bars for kevin too.

    • @-MattMcCauley-
      @-MattMcCauley- 5 місяців тому +3

      Zero evidence supports your claim, NONE. She kept him from the kids for the past YEAR, that fact is well-documented, not contested in any way.

    • @AnastaciaInCleveland
      @AnastaciaInCleveland 5 місяців тому +2

      Kevin could have checked on the kids' welfare anytime he wanted to. Ruby could not terminate his parental rights. He just didn't care.

  • @Lexielouwho
    @Lexielouwho 5 місяців тому +31

    Boy his lawyer's working overtime to paint him out to be another victim when he saw Ruby work this connects crap all along. He was beside her in videos when they spoke on the horrible parenting they both took part in. Sorry, I'll never see him as a naive victim like his lawyer is trying to make him out to be. He needs to be charged as well IMHO.

  • @PrincessofErised
    @PrincessofErised 5 місяців тому +20

    Ruby treats her kids like possessions, not human beings with free will. She demanded they comply or else. Turns out the "or else" was torture.

    • @McQuizzical
      @McQuizzical 5 місяців тому +2

      The irony, that the behaviour she expected, demanded even, isn't one she could manage herself.

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 5 місяців тому +1

      She behaved like a cop or prison guard towards her own children instead of being a Mom. She's a narcissist and I think that Kevin is too.

  • @ninadecker246
    @ninadecker246 5 місяців тому +4

    This man is so passive and hesitant I would never want him to defend me

  • @ClaireisVegan
    @ClaireisVegan 5 місяців тому +4

    The children should never be placed with that sorry excuse for a father. They will be safer with their sister. Neither parent should have any unsupervised contact with the children

  • @TheBelleRoberts
    @TheBelleRoberts 5 місяців тому +4

    At the very least Kevin should be charged with gross child neglect and abandonment.

  • @kevintrotter2025
    @kevintrotter2025 5 місяців тому +32

    He looks like he has aged 50 years since he became the husband's lawyer 😆

    • @janetshemaryahu5529
      @janetshemaryahu5529 5 місяців тому +3

      Could the LDS church be financing this attorney? And essentially coercing an otherwise good and honest man? To do massive damage control on the whole Jodi Hildebrand/Ruby Franke scandal?

    • @ettajfan5882
      @ettajfan5882 5 місяців тому +3

      I thought that too! Just two months ago he was looking quite dapper! Now he looks rough.

  • @Rita-yw2tn
    @Rita-yw2tn 5 місяців тому +24

    He was going along with the program and he’s just as much at fault as she is they’re both guilty ! There’s no way he didn’t know what was going on !

  • @kim8946
    @kim8946 5 місяців тому +6

    This lawyer must be forthright- even when the police returned the electronics, Kevin wasn’t happy that they were not charging his daughter. His response then was he, himself would research the matter if they weren’t prepared to charge her!! Kevin was aware of how the children were being disciplined by Ruby when he LIVED in the house!! Even then he couldn’t stand up for the children! He was more concerned about the electronics than the children

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail Місяць тому

      indeed, what was on the computers ?

  • @anneritchie426
    @anneritchie426 5 місяців тому +83

    She is completely crazy ,all these people who followed her on Facebook should be ashamed of themselves the father is just as bad trying to charge his daughter disgusting.

    • @critterscute3642
      @critterscute3642 5 місяців тому +1

      Amen

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому

      He's not trying to charge his daughter anymore. The damage that he thought she did to his house was done by the police.

  • @carolynmoe1796
    @carolynmoe1796 5 місяців тому +7

    Why isn't Kevin concerned about the church's responsibility in referring all these people to Jodi? They knew she was destroying families

    • @marquitaarmstrong399
      @marquitaarmstrong399 5 місяців тому

      Church of Je$u$ Chri$t of latter day $aint$. Okay? Got it? 😢😢 bye.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 4 місяці тому +1

      That’s a good question. I would sued the church. The basis is the guy who had Jodi’s license suspended for 18 months. The church knew at the time and continued to refer her to others. They are duty as well.

    • @carolynmoe1796
      @carolynmoe1796 4 місяці тому +1

      @laurenmay2098 yes they did! It was Adam Steed

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 4 місяці тому

      @carolynmoe1796 Yes, that is his name. He is such a brave man. He fought bravely to the eigjts to see his kids or was just one daughter. My memory is bad, but he is a hero, fighting against a very powerful organization, and he won!

  • @heathermcallister4033
    @heathermcallister4033 5 місяців тому +16

    He's not waiting to see if she's guilty??he's sure trying to distance himself

  • @chegadorn
    @chegadorn 5 місяців тому +12

    What a crock! He's trying to save his own neck!

  • @barbtries
    @barbtries 5 місяців тому +30

    Jodi comes off as a sick man hater masquerading as a caring person. i think the coming together of her with Ruby created the perfect storm. Damage all the way around.

    • @pat-paterson
      @pat-paterson 5 місяців тому +1

      that doesnt make sense though, weren't both Jodi & Ruby Mormon? Arent they taught their whole lives revolve around family and their husband (meaning being the servant to their lives)

    • @mirzamay
      @mirzamay 5 місяців тому +3

      Agreed. Being a pitiful sub par parent like ruby and Kevin is still a pretty far cry from kids locked in a basement, tortured and starved. And their marriage seemed ok before Jodi. They would have just been ordinary narcissist parents that kids trepse back to on Thanksgiving once a year and put behind them them the rest of the year, like many of us do.

    • @barbtries
      @barbtries 5 місяців тому +2

      yeah they were or are mormaon. just goes to prove that religion doesn't trump pathology. @@pat-paterson

    • @pat-paterson
      @pat-paterson 5 місяців тому

      maybe she figured out she got the short end of the stick bc of their religion @@barbtries I cant wait till the trial!

  • @brendahidalgo4711
    @brendahidalgo4711 5 місяців тому +27

    He should be in jail to!

    • @CantonBn
      @CantonBn 5 місяців тому

      for what?

  • @blueagle-di6is
    @blueagle-di6is 5 місяців тому +16

    how did the husband "not know" what was going with the kids?

  • @catie5939
    @catie5939 5 місяців тому +6

    Kevin is not an innocent flower. Absolute nonsense.
    This man should never, ever be awarded custody of anyone's children.
    Not his own, not anybody's.

  • @brendahastings3985
    @brendahastings3985 5 місяців тому +5

    The kids need to get a lawyer & sue the parents for gross neglect! Plastering them all over the internet & embarrassing them while they made money off of it. That alone is Just sick behavior & the father was a part of that & a knowing participant!

  • @diversaficando-kq5yh
    @diversaficando-kq5yh 5 місяців тому +18

    Kevin is defenitely not a good father.

  • @anonymouslyconcerned
    @anonymouslyconcerned 5 місяців тому +32

    Sad that Kevin has manipulated Shari again. Kevun is her abuser too.

  • @pateicialane4740
    @pateicialane4740 5 місяців тому +3

    He’s getting a divorce to get kids and then ruby will tell him how to control them from jail he’s disgusting

  • @speakthetruth995
    @speakthetruth995 5 місяців тому +5

    He was in cohorts with her in this mess from the beginning and now he wants a divorce.

  • @deeanthony7713
    @deeanthony7713 5 місяців тому +32

    The two grown kids need to tell the truth about their scummy dad! Kevin is just as much GUILTY as Ruby! The NERVE of this MONSTER DAD!

  • @TheGymnast71
    @TheGymnast71 5 місяців тому +9

    hes so GUILTY! He needs to be in jail as well.....

  • @HughMadBro
    @HughMadBro 5 місяців тому +8

    12:08 there was "allegations" prior to that of corporal punishment 🤬 he's a lying liar !!!

    • @sunnya8
      @sunnya8 5 місяців тому

      Right?! Immediately thought the same thing too. CPS was there all the time! Even before Ruby met Jody too.

  • @jeremybilbrey1133
    @jeremybilbrey1133 5 місяців тому +33

    I cant fathom where your father tries to get you arrested not once but twice....and told the cops that he was going to "look into it further" to get her charged...and you talk through it and are now "best of friends" that is assanine

  • @vhondachristian7978
    @vhondachristian7978 5 місяців тому +23

    Ruby was infatuated with Jody, I think. Jody is kind butchy and Ruby is definitely a lipstick so they had an attraction and wanted to hide it.

    • @hsk2909
      @hsk2909 5 місяців тому

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 4 місяці тому

      I don’t think Ruby was infatuated with Jodi, but the opposite. I am not against of people getting together, but it looks like Jodi did separated Kevin and Ruby to develop it a deeper relationship with Ruby. Of source she was using Ruby as well.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail Місяць тому

      ya think? Jodi slept with Ruby in the marriage bed; Kevin was cuckolded

  • @heather1387
    @heather1387 5 місяців тому +6

    He does not want to pay her legal fees.

  • @debfox
    @debfox 5 місяців тому +5

    He is just as bad! Kevin not only neglected to protect the children but he was also abusive and neglectful. Then he had the absolute audacity to try to press charges on his own DAUGHTER while she’s in the house getting her sisters’ belongings! He has shown he’s a snake! When someone shows you who they are, believe them!
    He’s doing this to save face and that lawyer is an absolute snake too! The kids deserve to feel SAFE! They wouldn’t feel safe with him! He was very emotionally abusive to them BEFORE Jodi! He was also neglectful and denied his own kids food as punishment! He took away his oldest son’s bed and room! He sent him to a wilderness camp! He’s shown he is NOT a good father or man!

  • @BrigitteGoodman
    @BrigitteGoodman 5 місяців тому +4

    He is as guilty as she is. He watched and supported this horror. Now he blames it all on her.

  • @anneritchie426
    @anneritchie426 5 місяців тому +7

    The poor children are underweight so he didn't notice this

  • @ruffoloreads
    @ruffoloreads 5 місяців тому +24

    My cynical thought is that he's talked to ruby and they planned together for him to file for divorce to gain custody of the kids so that when she's released she'll have them all back together waiting for her 🤢

    • @Beautiful_Days9249
      @Beautiful_Days9249 5 місяців тому +4

      That's my thought too. They would rather "show" divorce to keep custody and control of the kids through Kevin than for him to "look" supportive of Ruby (which he is 100% was throughout the abusive years). They will do anything to keep control of the kids and the influences in their lives.

    • @Fireball20204
      @Fireball20204 5 місяців тому +3

      I don't think she will ever be able to be around her kids! That's a wrap!

    • @carolmorgan7998
      @carolmorgan7998 5 місяців тому

      I hope Kevin is charged f that Ruby stays locked up until all.kifd are adults!

  • @HughMadBro
    @HughMadBro 5 місяців тому +8

    I don't trust him. He let her do stuff to the oldest & gave zero F's 🤦🏼‍♀️ what did he find out, she was "with" Jody??? If so that's the only reason I think he would want a "immediate divorce". Jody was taking up his side of the bed.

  • @americansunbeam
    @americansunbeam 5 місяців тому +11

    He was an accomplice in this sick behavior.

  • @antiquesrestoration3874
    @antiquesrestoration3874 5 місяців тому +7

    Dude knew this was going on the whole time and did jack $hit about it and that's why he doesn't have custody of his own children. This filing is just theater to deflect blame.

  • @safewaydriving3463
    @safewaydriving3463 5 місяців тому +10

    So his wife is where she belongs in prison, and now he decides to divorce her? He obviously knew what she was doing to the children and didn’t seem so concerned at that time. While we don’t know the whole story, it doesn’t appear he ever tried to stop her.

  • @pscCRPS
    @pscCRPS 5 місяців тому +2

    I can't believe this attorney is online talking about the divorce before the kids were notified. That is a jerk move

  • @pat-paterson
    @pat-paterson 5 місяців тому +9

    watch him show up with a new Mormon girlfriend real soon so he looks even better in court, when he's coming for them kids! 'Look judge, a new family!'

  • @cathyhelmuth823
    @cathyhelmuth823 Місяць тому +3

    After watching Kevin’s interview, these children need to be protected from his father as well. His reactions and lack of questions regarding the condition of his children are bizarre! Protect these children!

  • @VisiV
    @VisiV 5 місяців тому +7

    Yeah, this is 100% a legal ploy on his part. The guy is on tape participating in cruel and manipulative parenting for years, whether or not it had yet escalated to duct tape. Clearly, starvation was already on the table when he was on record endorsing it. Also, this attorney has made multiple statements in the past about how Kevin was trying to reconcile with Ruby and save his marriage. To say now that he has wanted a divorce all along is at odds with those prior statements to say the least. He’s trying to massage this into something new.

  • @user-oy1fj6vq8f
    @user-oy1fj6vq8f 5 місяців тому +4

    It’s the only way to protect assets. He could have divorced at ANYTIME.

  • @cheryljohnson866
    @cheryljohnson866 5 місяців тому +30

    "Crazy therapy he was being subject to"...says the attorney. My husband, father, brother, uncles and cousins would never have been so weak. What I do worry about is the damage to the children and most likely years ahead of necessary support from qualified professionals.

    • @ettajfan5882
      @ettajfan5882 5 місяців тому +8

      From someone outside the Mormon church.

    • @karenkollects9277
      @karenkollects9277 5 місяців тому +5

      God bless your family. What father would not see his 6 children for over a year. Shari tried to get him to help her when she found out they were being left alone for weeks and he would not return her calls. He should never get custody.

    • @amandawalters8087
      @amandawalters8087 5 місяців тому +5

      Other men have come forward about the same thing…the church revered them to her…they wear doing what the elders suggested…they have been taught not to question the church

    • @whitneyulmer
      @whitneyulmer 5 місяців тому +4

      Yes agree but at least the guy(sorry his name is escaping me) who sued the boys scouts and the reason Jodi had her license taken at least he was man enough to realize what was up and stand up to her and the Church Even though they ruined him and he lost his wife and kids it's terrible

    • @ninamenon
      @ninamenon 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@amandawalters8087 A VERY big problem with LDS. The Elders are the final word on everything.

  • @annpanton2377
    @annpanton2377 5 місяців тому +5

    He is their father. I’m tired of fathers walking away and washing their hands of any responsibility. He needs to be held accountable. I remember when everything first happened and he wanted his daughter arrested. He is horrible and I hope he gets charged

  • @serinaborbon548
    @serinaborbon548 5 місяців тому +3

    Kevin’s lawyer is so full of it, lawyer knows they were together for thanksgiving but doesn’t know about adult kids know about the divorce like there not I contact or have these conversations 🙄

  • @janetdonald9801
    @janetdonald9801 5 місяців тому +4

    He’s guilty too, he’s just trying to clear his name but he was in the videos when they happily inflicted psychological trauma.

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine 5 місяців тому +26

    Such totally bizarre people. I cannot imagine raising children and them not being your main focus. Your life should be centered around the family as a whole. Ruby seems to be a construct of modernity as presented in Women's magazines, from dress, posture and environment. I get that vibe immediately when I see her in the online presentations. When a person role plays they have no clue who they truly are. They are empty vessels filled with modern imagery. She is finding out now who she truly is.

    • @gointothedogs4634
      @gointothedogs4634 5 місяців тому

      Good understanding but I doubt she's finding this out now, as she's still dealing with survival.

  • @mattprince9204
    @mattprince9204 5 місяців тому +3

    It’s true that Kevin hasn’t been criminally charged. That doesn’t mean that he’s innocent. The last I heard from this lawyer was that Kevin wanted to stay married. This lawyer is a real piece of work, just like his client

  • @annieatelier5291
    @annieatelier5291 5 місяців тому +56

    I bet the conviction and sentencing of the boy in the box father was a sobering moment for this guy.

    • @nellsun2521
      @nellsun2521 5 місяців тому +10

      Yep. Although Mr Ferriter was given an incredibly light sentence in the end.

    • @SaraSmith81
      @SaraSmith81 5 місяців тому +2

      I doubt it

    • @HughMadBro
      @HughMadBro 5 місяців тому

      What's that case called? "The boy in the box" & is it recent?

    • @maddisonbythesea3015
      @maddisonbythesea3015 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@HughMadBroTim Ferriter was the boys dad who was sentenced Thursday. He was arrested in 2022.

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla 5 місяців тому

      @@maddisonbythesea3015Oh my gosh, really!? I can’t believe the fact that such a well known cold-case being solved didn’t make bigger news!

  • @gotlandia1588
    @gotlandia1588 5 місяців тому +3

    Come on! KF was there for years keeping up their bad parenting style, should that now just be forgotten and swept under a rug.

  • @jasonnelms4556
    @jasonnelms4556 5 місяців тому +11

    Still shouldn't get the kids. At least not until after he recognizes his wrongs and takes real classes on how to parent. Nice to see him take his balls back though.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 4 місяці тому

      He think he is a good father because he stayed away from his kids for almost two years. He was trying to keep his family together, and I am thinking, what? How is that possible? There is no family together without a father.

  • @HollyFurgason
    @HollyFurgason 5 місяців тому +39

    The attorney looks absolutely worn out but lying, putting out fires and trying to keep your stories straight will do that to you.

    • @janetshemaryahu5529
      @janetshemaryahu5529 5 місяців тому

      Is the lawyer a mouthpiece of the LDS church?! Whitewashing.

  • @cathyshell9852
    @cathyshell9852 5 місяців тому +3

    He needs to be arrested!!! He is just as guilty!!! He knew.

  • @Armychick
    @Armychick 5 місяців тому +10

    Are the kids okay now?

  • @KaiHuang-qo6tj
    @KaiHuang-qo6tj 5 місяців тому +44

    She's already forced her husband out of their children's lives. She deserves everything coming to her, including divorce and losing custody of her children.

    • @ettajfan5882
      @ettajfan5882 5 місяців тому +9

      And jail. Don't forget jail.

    • @SaraSmith81
      @SaraSmith81 5 місяців тому +11

      They both deserve jail time for what they did to those kids

    • @beatrizmayorca3963
      @beatrizmayorca3963 5 місяців тому +8

      Both! He is in videos talking about HIS punishment for the kids! HE IS ALSO SICK is incredible he is not in jail when he is in videos helping ruby to do all of this to this kids!

    • @marymackxox
      @marymackxox 5 місяців тому +6

      Forced her husband out of the kids lives? 🤔 my husband couldn’t force me out of my kids life.

    • @KaiHuang-qo6tj
      @KaiHuang-qo6tj 5 місяців тому

      @@marymackxox Did you even watch the vid? He hadn't seen his children for over a year based on Jodie's advice to stay away from his children. Stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance.

  • @reginella6
    @reginella6 5 місяців тому +4

    The husband is as bad or worse than the wife, he didn’t see, didn’t hear, didn’t say anything!!!!!! 🙊🙉🙈
    He’s as mean as her for letting his wife mistreat their children FOR YEARS! Everything was in plain site for everybody to see in her podcast and he wants us to believe that he wasn’t complicit either by ignoring it or by complying with it!!!

  • @ickyjess1888
    @ickyjess1888 5 місяців тому +5

    It’s so crazy when people get into these situation and you watch them turn on each other

  • @roncaron8939
    @roncaron8939 5 місяців тому +6

    the kids deserve 6/8 of tha assetss
    I hope they have a good lawyer
    representing them.

  • @artphotognh
    @artphotognh 5 місяців тому +15

    Why doesn't Kevin have custody of the minor kids? Didn't Ruby call him right before the arrest to pick them up? When the cops went looking for the rest of the minor kids, they were cleaning the house of some unrelated people who didn't want to let the cops see them. This is not normal custody procedure!

    • @AnastaciaInCleveland
      @AnastaciaInCleveland 5 місяців тому

      Actually, Ruby called up the woman, whose house was being cleaned by the two daughters, to pick them up. She didn't call Kevin to do so. When the police went looking for the girls, they were already in state custody, not Kevin's. They needed to be found so that a social worker could secure them. BTW, the woman (I think her name is Pam), is the CEO of ConneXions, the organization that Jodi and Ruby worked for.

    • @artphotognh
      @artphotognh 3 місяці тому

      Good question - but unrelated people were the President of Connections, & her husband, the leaders of the CULT that were using the tortured kids as slave labor!

  • @leannajones4255
    @leannajones4255 5 місяців тому +1

    She asks like she doesn't love her kids and seems to punish them for being alive and human.

  • @wendymiesowitz1897
    @wendymiesowitz1897 5 місяців тому +2

    Question: Who "certified" Ruby as any kind of "therapist"?!?!