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@neurotoxicity heartbreaking. Wonder if it every dawned on these idiots that perhaps all the intense, strict parenting just wasn't producing perfect children and to go the opposite route and try loving them. I have kids. It was heartbreaking to watch some of the videos.
The way Kev treated his daughter is inexcusable! For the children, I hope he is not ever awarded custody. He seems like a cold and calculating character.
I hate to say it I hope the daughter doesn’t obtain custody either it’s hard to tell where the kids should go but in my opinion none of the Frankie’s or any other Mormon based family members related to them shouldn’t obtain custody
I saw one of there videos where he was going through his sons phone at the dinner table, making fun that he liked a girl, in front of the family! he sounds like a jerk!
Purely damage control. Less than five months ago, he tried to get his daughter put in jail for taking items that the entire family had access to. He’s an abuser as well.
Wow, Kevin is calculated!! How convenient that he all of a sudden wants to file for divorce. He’s desperately pulling at anything to avoid getting prison time, because he’s absolutely just as culpable and I hope the judge sees right through this manipulation tactic! His attorney aggravates the crap out of me 😠
So he didn't see his young children for over a year??? Maybe not see your spouse, but not seeing your children? No the lawyer can't say they weren't subjected to corporal punishment, they were subjected to way more. Shame on him. 😐
He's guilty as sin. Mormon guilty is greater than sin itself. Kicked out of the cult and jail is earned here in spades. Dad of the Year award = 20 years to think about it.
He had to know. I don't believe he didn't know. Also, how do you let your wife's best friend and partner be your marriage counselor? Makes no sense at all.
They were manipulating him. He was in love with her. He was doing anything he could to stay with her who knows what those two women were doing together. 🐍
Also, I thought the man was the leader of the household in Morman families. I just don't see how a Morman man would let some outside female come in and be the boss of him and his family.
@@TheBmco99 Yes, I agree with you. I mean look at all the people in cults. Mature, educated people. Indoctrination happens slowly and methodically. The cult leaders don't need to be following a pre-determined plan. They are already experts at manipulation because they've been doing it all their lives. And sometimes I've heard deprogrammed members say that during a period of lesser contact, certain facts or ideas were entertained and it seemed to them that it felt like a light bulb just went off in their heads and they were astonished that they could have ever believed what they did. It's not always like that. I think it's more common to come out of it slowly.
In my opinion, he is trying to keep from being charged with a crime, but he is also trying to keep Ruby from using all their assets for her defense. Self-serving, 100%. He has never really cared about his children, as proved on 8 years of UA-cam video.
Wonder if yt cut him a check after yeeting their platform 👀🤷🏼♀️ & who's getting any income still comin into the house... like brands that haven't stopped paying & such.
Actually, I think it's the opposite. I think he's still in cahoots with Ruby and they're getting all the assets out of her name because of possible fines and court costs, and they feel a lawsuit coming for the millions they made exploiting their children, and like the Duggars they don't want the kids to have any. Like when Prince Andrew was getting sued, all his assets and titles were reverted back to the crown so they couldn't be touched if he's found guilty.
@@FearMyLadyBits Which is why he wants the kids. His lawyer spoke about how he'd need extra money coming in as she wouldn't be in a position to work (being in prison) and pay maintenance for them, (if I heard right) .
@@lizsowerby3868Where did you hear that? At this point, with THIS lawyer distorting the truth of so much reality, I really would only believe that if I heard it from Sherri. She’s the literally ONLY person directly involved with this case I’ve seen so far who focuses on what truly matters: the kids, their safety, and protection for them. The fact Kevin’s lawyer couldn’t even say how they are shows, to me, how little he cares about the well-being of the kids.
Absolutely. You think he didn't notice one if the children wasn't allowed to eat dinner? Was going to bed HUNGRY? Things like that happened all of the time.
It is very evident from their 8 passengers videos that he went along with EVERYTHING Ruby decided, and all sorts of cruel punishments were not off the table with him either. He willfully neglected his minor children for over a year with an absolutely bs excuse that he's offering now. If alarm bells doesn't ring when a therapist tells you to LEAVE your family and have no contact, and you BELIEVE her and do as she says, there is something wrong with you or you just do NOT care! He NEGLECTED his younger children in my book and blaming it on Jodi is pathetic. He's an ADULT man ffs!
So Kevin knew his both kids were malnourished and tied up and he was just “upset”. Wouldn’t you be beyond yourself and also feel immense guilt for not protecting them ?
And he's trying to hide behind the excuse that Ruby, through Jodi, told him to stay away from her and the kids. There's no way that excuse should hold up. "Because my wife and her business partner told me to" should not be a defense.
Jesse, what about child abandonment under Utah law? Kevin has parental duties which he potentially criminally failed to fulfil for over a year. Why didn't you ask him *that*?
I want to know this too. According to Utah law, Kevin spent more than twice the amount of time away from his kids than what Utah considers child abandonment. Why does everyone skip over the fact that he hasn't been charged?
@@janetshemaryahu5529I don’t envy defense attorneys, but this one is truly slime. He doesn’t care about the kids’ safety and well being at all, as evidenced by the fact he couldn’t be bothered to give an update or look into how they’re doing.
Oh they got together and put this little misunderstanding behind them. RIGHT! CULT MANIPULATION AT WORK HERE. Members of the church applying pressure on the oldest daughter TOO I'm sure.
I just asked my husband if we went to therapy and were told he needs to move out and not have communication with the kids or me for a year what would he do. Spoiler: get an attorney
Are we going to ignore the videos (those of us who knew how abusive they were towards the kids whey they had their UA-cam channel ) HE WAS THERE! Kevin is also guilty !
This lawyer is doing Franke no favors by making him look so weak and gullible. Why should he get custody when he couldn't protect his children? He listened to everything she said and followed her rules? Boy, bye.
He is trying to distance himself from her so they wont come after him. They were together when she was treating them terribly and he never stopped her. He just wants to get the kids back without her and the conquesences of the stuff going on in the home.
He was out of the home for the past YEAR, genius--and he was KEPT FROM the kids, which is incredibly easy for women to do under our grossly mother-favoring family courts.
That is what many aren't getting. Yes he is guilty prior to Jodi being involved 100% but he was made to separate from his wife for the health of Ruby and Kevin's relationship for his kids. He probably wanted to get his children out of the situation but if he did things would go horribly wrong as Jodi is the ring leader. @@-MattMcCauley-
@@-MattMcCauley- Wrong. He and Ruby invited Jodi into their life in 2018. He followed everything Jodi suggested. There is plenty of evidence of his own mistreatment of the children. He lost his job at BYU because his students constantly complained about his treatment of them. His reviews were simply awful. He wants total control of the money. He is the sole owner of their home. He wanted his eldest daughter charged with breaking and entering his house. The police told him that they broke into the house, so he wanted her charged with theft. All she had done was go in to collect clothing and items belonging to his other kids. He's a monster and a coward.
Don't forget he refused to answer phone calls from his kids while the torture was going on. No 💩 given. He wasn't "kept" from the kids by any court. He just f'd on off when he was told to by ruby and frankly didn't care at all about the kids.
Boy his lawyer's working overtime to paint him out to be another victim when he saw Ruby work this connects crap all along. He was beside her in videos when they spoke on the horrible parenting they both took part in. Sorry, I'll never see him as a naive victim like his lawyer is trying to make him out to be. He needs to be charged as well IMHO.
As a parent there is absolutely no possible way that he didn’t know there was something very wrong at best, and who knows what skeletons are in his closet. I went through a divorce and I knew exactly what was going on with both of my young children at the time and the state of their well being. So she told him they had to be separated and he couldn’t see the children and he said ok? Yeah sure. There’s definitely more to the story.
Agree. And he was so very concerned about all the electronics he loaded into his trunk. And so angry at his daughter for taking them. Definitely hiding something.
@@critterscute3642 That's instantly what I thought when I saw that vid. Why would he be angry? Hmmmm there must be something really incriminating in the stuff that she took. I'm just hoping the daughter got copies of whatever that was before returning it. Kevin is a complete Scuz...he's very transparent in his actions. And when you have a defense attorney on speaking for their client...you know everything he's saying is complete and utter BS! He's being paid to -say that- lie!
Today Ruby pleaded guilty, and I know Jodi will do the same. There will be no trial. The church probably knew everything that was going on. They are the cause many families are destroyed. IMHO, the church knows the are many skeletons in these peoples closets. I am betting my week salary that Jodi will plead guilty soon.
After watching Kevin’s interview, these children need to be protected from his father as well. His reactions and lack of questions regarding the condition of his children are bizarre! Protect these children!
She is completely crazy ,all these people who followed her on Facebook should be ashamed of themselves the father is just as bad trying to charge his daughter disgusting.
How long before he was going to see the kids? He would have some deceased children. No custody for Kevin! No! He failed as a father as has Ruby! No! He should NOT have access to them now! No! Danger alert!
The children should never be placed with that sorry excuse for a father. They will be safer with their sister. Neither parent should have any unsupervised contact with the children
Jodi comes off as a sick man hater masquerading as a caring person. i think the coming together of her with Ruby created the perfect storm. Damage all the way around.
that doesnt make sense though, weren't both Jodi & Ruby Mormon? Arent they taught their whole lives revolve around family and their husband (meaning being the servant to their lives)
Agreed. Being a pitiful sub par parent like ruby and Kevin is still a pretty far cry from kids locked in a basement, tortured and starved. And their marriage seemed ok before Jodi. They would have just been ordinary narcissist parents that kids trepse back to on Thanksgiving once a year and put behind them them the rest of the year, like many of us do.
Makes me sick. This guy demands an immediate divorce from the courts but couldn't demand anything from jodie, let alone immediately. Like move back in with your "wife" and family.
When a spouse faces criminal charges and a court trial, getting a divorce will protect financial assets. Ie kevin will keep money that can’t be touched by the courts, by fees, by anything legal
Kevin absolutely did know that Ruby was controlling, would routinely deny the children food, etc. - that all was happening before Ruby even met Jody. Kevin is a weak man & a liar & needs to be held accountable for looking the other way on some really abusive things.
That’s a good question. I would sued the church. The basis is the guy who had Jodi’s license suspended for 18 months. The church knew at the time and continued to refer her to others. They are duty as well.
@carolynmoe1796 Yes, that is his name. He is such a brave man. He fought bravely to the eigjts to see his kids or was just one daughter. My memory is bad, but he is a hero, fighting against a very powerful organization, and he won!
The kids need to get a lawyer & sue the parents for gross neglect! Plastering them all over the internet & embarrassing them while they made money off of it. That alone is Just sick behavior & the father was a part of that & a knowing participant!
I don't trust him. He let her do stuff to the oldest & gave zero F's 🤦🏼♀️ what did he find out, she was "with" Jody??? If so that's the only reason I think he would want a "immediate divorce". Jody was taking up his side of the bed.
This lawyer must be forthright- even when the police returned the electronics, Kevin wasn’t happy that they were not charging his daughter. His response then was he, himself would research the matter if they weren’t prepared to charge her!! Kevin was aware of how the children were being disciplined by Ruby when he LIVED in the house!! Even then he couldn’t stand up for the children! He was more concerned about the electronics than the children
I cant fathom where your father tries to get you arrested not once but twice....and told the cops that he was going to "look into it further" to get her charged...and you talk through it and are now "best of friends" that is assanine
Could the LDS church be financing this attorney? And essentially coercing an otherwise good and honest man? To do massive damage control on the whole Jodi Hildebrand/Ruby Franke scandal?
Kevin KNEW. Yes, he knew. BEFORE he left the house, abuse and crazy stuff was already going on!!! He admits it during his interview. He is ABSOLUTELY knowledgeable. He only divorced so he could get the kids and continue with the mental abuse and Mormon craziness. Then, if Ruby gets out, she'll remarry him. Planned.
My cynical thought is that he's talked to ruby and they planned together for him to file for divorce to gain custody of the kids so that when she's released she'll have them all back together waiting for her 🤢
That's my thought too. They would rather "show" divorce to keep custody and control of the kids through Kevin than for him to "look" supportive of Ruby (which he is 100% was throughout the abusive years). They will do anything to keep control of the kids and the influences in their lives.
Such totally bizarre people. I cannot imagine raising children and them not being your main focus. Your life should be centered around the family as a whole. Ruby seems to be a construct of modernity as presented in Women's magazines, from dress, posture and environment. I get that vibe immediately when I see her in the online presentations. When a person role plays they have no clue who they truly are. They are empty vessels filled with modern imagery. She is finding out now who she truly is.
I don’t think Ruby was infatuated with Jodi, but the opposite. I am not against of people getting together, but it looks like Jodi did separated Kevin and Ruby to develop it a deeper relationship with Ruby. Of source she was using Ruby as well.
In an early interview with Jesse Weber, this lawyer said that Kevin had BLOCKED the children's phone numbers because Ruby told him he couldn't have contact with the kids. Now he claims Kevin is in "constant contact" with his adult children? I'm sorry. Not buying the doublespeak trying to make Kevin appear as caring & concerned father. He's. just. not.
Yeah, this is 100% a legal ploy on his part. The guy is on tape participating in cruel and manipulative parenting for years, whether or not it had yet escalated to duct tape. Clearly, starvation was already on the table when he was on record endorsing it. Also, this attorney has made multiple statements in the past about how Kevin was trying to reconcile with Ruby and save his marriage. To say now that he has wanted a divorce all along is at odds with those prior statements to say the least. He’s trying to massage this into something new.
No, Kevin was NOT upset about "losing his personal electronics" when cops broke down the door & when Shari was getting the other kids' stuff - Kevin had moved out over a year before! He's no knight in shining armor!
Thank you so much. The lawyer explained alot of my quiestions. I cried when he said the two older kids are back with their Dad and doing very very well. I have hope for all the kids.
So his wife is where she belongs in prison, and now he decides to divorce her? He obviously knew what she was doing to the children and didn’t seem so concerned at that time. While we don’t know the whole story, it doesn’t appear he ever tried to stop her.
He is their father. I’m tired of fathers walking away and washing their hands of any responsibility. He needs to be held accountable. I remember when everything first happened and he wanted his daughter arrested. He is horrible and I hope he gets charged
She's already forced her husband out of their children's lives. She deserves everything coming to her, including divorce and losing custody of her children.
Both! He is in videos talking about HIS punishment for the kids! HE IS ALSO SICK is incredible he is not in jail when he is in videos helping ruby to do all of this to this kids!
@@marymackxo Did you even watch the vid? He hadn't seen his children for over a year based on Jodie's advice to stay away from his children. Stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance.
So many people agree that Kevin should definitely have something coming his way as far as the allegations BUT as it seems in sooo many things I’ve seen and listen too and tried researching myself it’s looking like before they children we’re found at Jody‘s that somewhat in the laws eyes none of the parenting that Kevin was involved in was at fault. It’s like they saw no fault in that but only in everything that’s happening at the moment now …it’s like it’s solely based just on what was happening at Jody‘s house so if you look at it in that aspect if I’m saying that right … then he wouldn’t be facing any charges… . I agree he definitely had hand and treating these kids extremely wrong over the course of their entire lives but he wasn’t there for this exact crime so I doubt he’ll face anything at all But even if he doesn’t I seriously hope to god if Sherrie is wanting them to stay with her That the court will let them be .. I’m also hoping that all of this has changed the way Kevin thinks parenting is supposed to be done but I don’t know if us (the public) will ever fully know that for sure.
It’s true that Kevin hasn’t been criminally charged. That doesn’t mean that he’s innocent. The last I heard from this lawyer was that Kevin wanted to stay married. This lawyer is a real piece of work, just like his client
Dude knew this was going on the whole time and did jack $hit about it and that's why he doesn't have custody of his own children. This filing is just theater to deflect blame.
I think i have a completely diffetent view on this than everyone. I feel like Ruby manipulated him and then she was manipulated by Jodi. In the beginning he wasn't around enough and Ruby had complete control over the children and convinced him that is how you raise children then once Jodi came in she convinced Ruby that Kevin wasn't anything except a hindrance. Kevin was a doormat to both women and just accepted everything that he was told.
A grown man allowing himself to be manipulated is his excuse for abandoning his children! You got a screw loose if you actually think this guy is a victim. He wanted his oldest daughter to be arrested. He is just as sick in the head as his crazy wife! The only victims here are the CHILDREN 😢
@@brendahastings3985👏👏👏👏 He’s only filing for divorce now in order to protect assets and him thinking he will get custody of the kids. Not to mention to dodge charges. His lawyer saying “it hadn’t crossed his mind” that Kevin would be called to testify shows the level of stupidity we’re watching.
He's just a weak man. What is unusual is that men are in charge of...everything...in the Mormon church. Women are taught to obey whatever the man (husband, bishop, father, any male) tells them to do. So, not buying it. He's morally culpable if not legally, and a wimp to boot.
Still shouldn't get the kids. At least not until after he recognizes his wrongs and takes real classes on how to parent. Nice to see him take his balls back though.
He think he is a good father because he stayed away from his kids for almost two years. He was trying to keep his family together, and I am thinking, what? How is that possible? There is no family together without a father.
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Two ad breaks are a little much, dont you think?
@@Emerelle03 every video I’ve watched in the last few weeks has had 2 ads and smaller skip buttons. UA-cam is becoming less watchable by the day
@@westpalmbeachphotostudios66 I believe the people creating the video select how many ads they want to include, the skipping ones that is.
The kid's don't need to be anywhere near the parents.
He acts as if there isn't video evidence of very bizarre and abusive parenting techniques for years. Where was he then?
He was THERE
@@lauralovescoffee9290 yeup, exactly
Exactly he is complicit
Yup-we saw him-he was living in the home-he was complicit in how they raised the kids, and he was part of the cult behavior.
He was helping enflict it💀
This is the same man that wanted her oldest daughter put in jail
Dad of the year 🙄
& sent Chad to a boot camp for a prank & had him sleeping without a door & on a bean bag/floor for months!!!
They all need to be in jail.
but dont worry him and shari are "best friends now" 💀 this lawyer is such a clown
@@HughMadBrono, the boot camp was first, then when he got home he pulled the prank and got his room taken. its much worse than it sounds.
@neurotoxicity heartbreaking. Wonder if it every dawned on these idiots that perhaps all the intense, strict parenting just wasn't producing perfect children and to go the opposite route and try loving them. I have kids. It was heartbreaking to watch some of the videos.
Kevin enabled every punishment the kids were given over many years. He is an utter coward. We see through this charade!!
Preach 🙏🏻🙌🏻 I'm commenting so hopefully your comment goes to the top.
@@HughMadBro Thank you! 😊 🙏
Yep and by doing so caused emotional harm, as Ruby’s charges state! He allowed it by not acting!
@@SchoolHouseRudd Exactly. It beggars belief!!
thats excactly what I see!
The way Kev treated his daughter is inexcusable! For the children, I hope he is not ever awarded custody. He seems like a cold and calculating character.
He's def not getting them but he doesn't wanna be charged so he gotta distance himself
I hate to say it I hope the daughter doesn’t obtain custody either it’s hard to tell where the kids should go but in my opinion none of the Frankie’s or any other Mormon based family members related to them shouldn’t obtain custody
he seems mad and sad to me. Jodi brought out the worst in Ruby, Ruby chose her over Kevin!
I saw one of there videos where he was going through his sons phone at the dinner table, making fun that he liked a girl, in front of the family! he sounds like a jerk!
@@pattyward710he looks and sounds like a jerk. I hope he doesn't get custody of those children.
Purely damage control. Less than five months ago, he tried to get his daughter put in jail for taking items that the entire family had access to. He’s an abuser as well.
yeah, wonder what was on that computer
I 100% guarantee you that the ONLY reason why he filed for divorce is simply so that he doesn’t have to face any civil liabilities.
Who is gonna sue him? His own kids?
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After the way he treated his daughter I think hes scum.
@@Ittybitty733Clueless 😂
And to get his kids back to keep them under his thumb.
“Desperately” trying to get back to his family without ever once trying to call or visit them… sure
Wow, Kevin is calculated!! How convenient that he all of a sudden wants to file for divorce. He’s desperately pulling at anything to avoid getting prison time, because he’s absolutely just as culpable and I hope the judge sees right through this manipulation tactic!
His attorney aggravates the crap out of me 😠
@@PlutogalaxyIt could, utah is too full of the same cloth as he
That really doesn't make sense. Divorce in situations like this is very common.
Jody probably told him to do it
That is HIS JOB to defend him whether we like it or not lol
Even so…I’d divorce her for sure as soon as Jodi stepped in!
He was probably enjoying his “appointed” freedoms anyway…thanx to Jodi!!!
He wanted an immediate divorce ONLY after she got arrested after years of being complicit in her BS. Too little, too late.
Survival technique. To late though. Like over year to late.
So he didn't see his young children for over a year??? Maybe not see your spouse, but not seeing your children? No the lawyer can't say they weren't subjected to corporal punishment, they were subjected to way more. Shame on him. 😐
He's guilty as sin. Mormon guilty is greater than sin itself. Kicked out of the cult and jail is earned here in spades. Dad of the Year award = 20 years to think about it.
During the videotaped police interview, he was informed they were in the hospital from being abused. HE NEVER ASKED HOW THEY WERE!
not once
His only concern was the papers in a brown satual, the money in the house ,and he loves his wife. Oy..
I found that weird too. And the fact that he asked for the definition of "emaciated." I found that so hard to believe. His demeanor was so off to me.
He is 100000000000% as guilty as his WIFE, Ruby! Why isn't he behind bars??? Those kids need justice! Lock him up!
Apparently the experts know more about his part in all this than you do.
@@gointothedogs4634 he’s not innocent in this at all. Should be behind bars as well.
He had to know. I don't believe he didn't know. Also, how do you let your wife's best friend and partner be your marriage counselor? Makes no sense at all.
They were manipulating him. He was in love with her. He was doing anything he could to stay with her who knows what those two women were doing together. 🐍
Also, I thought the man was the leader of the household in Morman families. I just don't see how a Morman man would let some outside female come in and be the boss of him and his family.
@@TheBmco99
Yes, I agree with you. I mean look at all the people in cults. Mature, educated people. Indoctrination happens slowly and methodically. The cult leaders don't need to be following a pre-determined plan. They are already experts at manipulation because they've been doing it all their lives. And sometimes I've heard deprogrammed members say that during a period of lesser contact, certain facts or ideas were entertained and it seemed to them that it felt like a light bulb just went off in their heads and they were astonished that they could have ever believed what they did. It's not always like that. I think it's more common to come out of it slowly.
LDS indoctrination + the cult indoctrination
His defense is he wasn't allowed to be around for the better part of the year ..but he was in those other videos prior to that leap year
In my opinion, he is trying to keep from being charged with a crime, but he is also trying to keep Ruby from using all their assets for her defense. Self-serving, 100%. He has never really cared about his children, as proved on 8 years of UA-cam video.
Wonder if yt cut him a check after yeeting their platform 👀🤷🏼♀️ & who's getting any income still comin into the house... like brands that haven't stopped paying & such.
Oh, puleeze your client is every bit as abusive as his wife. A very sick man
Yes. He'll probably get half of the house and half of the money they made off those poor kids.
Actually, I think it's the opposite. I think he's still in cahoots with Ruby and they're getting all the assets out of her name because of possible fines and court costs, and they feel a lawsuit coming for the millions they made exploiting their children, and like the Duggars they don't want the kids to have any. Like when Prince Andrew was getting sued, all his assets and titles were reverted back to the crown so they couldn't be touched if he's found guilty.
@@FearMyLadyBits Which is why he wants the kids. His lawyer spoke about how he'd need extra money coming in as she wouldn't be in a position to work (being in prison) and pay maintenance for them, (if I heard right) .
Kevin trying to send his daughter to jail tells me all I need to know guilty as well 😠😠
Thank you!!!!
I hope he never gets custody or even sees those kids again!
Apparently they both chatted together and spent thanksgiving together along with chad
@@lizsowerby3868Where did you hear that? At this point, with THIS lawyer distorting the truth of so much reality, I really would only believe that if I heard it from Sherri. She’s the literally ONLY person directly involved with this case I’ve seen so far who focuses on what truly matters: the kids, their safety, and protection for them.
The fact Kevin’s lawyer couldn’t even say how they are shows, to me, how little he cares about the well-being of the kids.
@@lizsowerby3868you forgot their also “best friends” now
She was doing terrible things to her kids before she met Jody. He knew
Absolutely. You think he didn't notice one if the children wasn't allowed to eat dinner? Was going to bed HUNGRY? Things like that happened all of the time.
It is very evident from their 8 passengers videos that he went along with EVERYTHING Ruby decided, and all sorts of cruel punishments were not off the table with him either. He willfully neglected his minor children for over a year with an absolutely bs excuse that he's offering now. If alarm bells doesn't ring when a therapist tells you to LEAVE your family and have no contact, and you BELIEVE her and do as she says, there is something wrong with you or you just do NOT care! He NEGLECTED his younger children in my book and blaming it on Jodi is pathetic. He's an ADULT man ffs!
@hsk2909 He's simply a criminal. Let the jury decide his fate.
His daughter contacted him many times when the mom started leaving the kids for weeks how does he explain that away
Excellent point!
So Kevin knew his both kids were malnourished and tied up and he was just “upset”. Wouldn’t you be beyond yourself and also feel immense guilt for not protecting them ?
And he's trying to hide behind the excuse that Ruby, through Jodi, told him to stay away from her and the kids.
There's no way that excuse should hold up. "Because my wife and her business partner told me to" should not be a defense.
What kind of father stays away from his kids for 14 months. Hes guilty
No, he was more upset about the front door getting damaged 🤦♀️. He’s a real tool. Coward.
Exactly!
He didn't, though.
Kevins lawyer says it hasn't crossed his mind that Kevin could be called as a witness in his wife's trial. He is full of crap.
The lawyer is full of BS on so many things.
The lawyer is a Mormon as well
@@toroverde9329probably paid for by the LDS.
Kevin should be a defendant, same as Jodi and Ruby.
@SchoolHouseRudd the LDS is definitely protecting Kevin, possibly Ruby. Jodie they're throwing under the bus as a useless female.
Jesse, what about child abandonment under Utah law? Kevin has parental duties which he potentially criminally failed to fulfil for over a year. Why didn't you ask him *that*?
I want to know this too.
According to Utah law, Kevin spent more than twice the amount of time away from his kids than what Utah considers child abandonment. Why does everyone skip over the fact that he hasn't been charged?
I find it hard to believe that he wasn’t involved at all. He’s trying to feign innocent and separating himself from her.
Not a shred of evidence supports your wild, irrational speculation.
@@-MattMcCauley-its called COMMON SENSE.!
What upsets me is the older kids were in that house and couldn't do a thing😔 They lived in fear
@@-MattMcCauley- must have a man crush or something.. Or just zero logic 🎪
Bingo!
How would his lawyer know what Kevin's gut feeling was?! And if Kevin "wanted to do what's best for his kids" why'd he abandon them for a whole year?!
Yes he's so hypocritical.
Coercion. There is a reason coercive control is IPV
It was 18 months, what a shame. A father should not do that, at all. I don’t care what your crazy wife tell you, do not leave your kids behind.
if Kevin was smart, he told his lawyer EVERYTHING. But this is what lawyers do, they try to put their clients in the best possible light.
@@FearMyLadyBits yes and the lawyer is smart enough to not slip up at all
His lawyer didn’t think he’d be called as a witness in a court case against Ruby? What rot!
That’s the moment we know that this “authentic” looking lawyer is false!! Shame on him, if he’s a God-fearing man.
@@janetshemaryahu5529I don’t envy defense attorneys, but this one is truly slime. He doesn’t care about the kids’ safety and well being at all, as evidenced by the fact he couldn’t be bothered to give an update or look into how they’re doing.
Hmmm…maybe the only reason he is divorcing her is to protect all their assets ?
Not all, but at least his half.
and the restitution monies from the Hildebrandt estate
I wanna hear from the older kids
Same, I doubt everything is hunky dory
Me too, but I think they are ashamed.
Yeah, loving father who wanted his daughter arrested for collect items from the house for the children she was watching. Really great parenting.
Oh they got together and put this little misunderstanding behind them. RIGHT! CULT MANIPULATION AT WORK HERE. Members of the church applying pressure on the oldest daughter TOO I'm sure.
His lawyer is lying through his teeth when he says they never discussed him being a potential witness
I just asked my husband if we went to therapy and were told he needs to move out and not have communication with the kids or me for a year what would he do.
Spoiler: get an attorney
My guess is yall aint mormon..lol.
@@theresawolfe1607 nope, heathens through and through
He’s a smart man.
@@SilverHairSimmersame, girl
This whole thing is about a few peoples individual choices...they could be among ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE!
Are we going to ignore the videos (those of us who knew how abusive they were towards the kids whey they had their UA-cam channel ) HE WAS THERE! Kevin is also guilty !
This lawyer is doing Franke no favors by making him look so weak and gullible. Why should he get custody when he couldn't protect his children? He listened to everything she said and followed her rules? Boy, bye.
He is trying to distance himself from her so they wont come after him. They were together when she was treating them terribly and he never stopped her. He just wants to get the kids back without her and the conquesences of the stuff going on in the home.
He was out of the home for the past YEAR, genius--and he was KEPT FROM the kids, which is incredibly easy for women to do under our grossly mother-favoring family courts.
That is what many aren't getting. Yes he is guilty prior to Jodi being involved 100% but he was made to separate from his wife for the health of Ruby and Kevin's relationship for his kids. He probably wanted to get his children out of the situation but if he did things would go horribly wrong as Jodi is the ring leader. @@-MattMcCauley-
@@-MattMcCauley- Wrong. He and Ruby invited Jodi into their life in 2018. He followed everything Jodi suggested. There is plenty of evidence of his own mistreatment of the children. He lost his job at BYU because his students constantly complained about his treatment of them. His reviews were simply awful. He wants total control of the money. He is the sole owner of their home. He wanted his eldest daughter charged with breaking and entering his house. The police told him that they broke into the house, so he wanted her charged with theft. All she had done was go in to collect clothing and items belonging to his other kids. He's a monster and a coward.
Don't forget he refused to answer phone calls from his kids while the torture was going on. No 💩 given. He wasn't "kept" from the kids by any court. He just f'd on off when he was told to by ruby and frankly didn't care at all about the kids.
@@-MattMcCauley-no court kept him from his kids. He chose to stay away.
Just a ploy to get the kids.. He is just as guilty. Bars for kevin too.
Zero evidence supports your claim, NONE. She kept him from the kids for the past YEAR, that fact is well-documented, not contested in any way.
Kevin could have checked on the kids' welfare anytime he wanted to. Ruby could not terminate his parental rights. He just didn't care.
He was an accomplice in this sick behavior. Now, he wants to save his butt
Boy his lawyer's working overtime to paint him out to be another victim when he saw Ruby work this connects crap all along. He was beside her in videos when they spoke on the horrible parenting they both took part in. Sorry, I'll never see him as a naive victim like his lawyer is trying to make him out to be. He needs to be charged as well IMHO.
Kevin ABANDONED his kids. He has no spine
Yeah, he's Rubys modelling jello.
This man is so passive and hesitant I would never want him to defend me
He was going along with the program and he’s just as much at fault as she is they’re both guilty ! There’s no way he didn’t know what was going on !
As a parent there is absolutely no possible way that he didn’t know there was something very wrong at best, and who knows what skeletons are in his closet. I went through a divorce and I knew exactly what was going on with both of my young children at the time and the state of their well being. So she told him they had to be separated and he couldn’t see the children and he said ok? Yeah sure. There’s definitely more to the story.
Agree. And he was so very concerned about all the electronics he loaded into his trunk. And so angry at his daughter for taking them. Definitely hiding something.
@@critterscute3642 That's instantly what I thought when I saw that vid. Why would he be angry? Hmmmm there must be something really incriminating in the stuff that she took. I'm just hoping the daughter got copies of whatever that was before returning it. Kevin is a complete Scuz...he's very transparent in his actions. And when you have a defense attorney on speaking for their client...you know everything he's saying is complete and utter BS! He's being paid to -say that- lie!
@@LifesPeachy321 Oh yeah. Scuz to the max!
Today Ruby pleaded guilty, and I know Jodi will do the same. There will be no trial. The church probably knew everything that was going on. They are the cause many families are destroyed. IMHO, the church knows the are many skeletons in these peoples closets. I am betting my week salary that Jodi will plead guilty soon.
There's countless hours of UA-cam video of Kevin failing to reel Ruby in when she was starving her kids; or depriving them of beds; etc.
Literally clips of him committing the same charges as she is accused of.
After watching Kevin’s interview, these children need to be protected from his father as well. His reactions and lack of questions regarding the condition of his children are bizarre! Protect these children!
Sad that Kevin has manipulated Shari again. Kevun is her abuser too.
She is completely crazy ,all these people who followed her on Facebook should be ashamed of themselves the father is just as bad trying to charge his daughter disgusting.
Amen
He's not trying to charge his daughter anymore. The damage that he thought she did to his house was done by the police.
He's not waiting to see if she's guilty??he's sure trying to distance himself
How long before he was going to see the kids? He would have some deceased children. No custody for Kevin! No! He failed as a father as has Ruby! No! He should NOT have access to them now! No! Danger alert!
Ruby treats her kids like possessions, not human beings with free will. She demanded they comply or else. Turns out the "or else" was torture.
The irony, that the behaviour she expected, demanded even, isn't one she could manage herself.
She behaved like a cop or prison guard towards her own children instead of being a Mom. She's a narcissist and I think that Kevin is too.
At the very least Kevin should be charged with gross child neglect and abandonment.
Kevin’s lawyer: “It hasn’t even crossed my mind he [Kevin] could be called as a witness in the criminal case”?!
Then Kevin needs a new lawyer.
@@GoodatNapsKevin needs to be a defendant like Ruby and Jody
@@HavianEla That lawyer will seal his fate. Perfect
The children should never be placed with that sorry excuse for a father. They will be safer with their sister. Neither parent should have any unsupervised contact with the children
Jodi comes off as a sick man hater masquerading as a caring person. i think the coming together of her with Ruby created the perfect storm. Damage all the way around.
that doesnt make sense though, weren't both Jodi & Ruby Mormon? Arent they taught their whole lives revolve around family and their husband (meaning being the servant to their lives)
Agreed. Being a pitiful sub par parent like ruby and Kevin is still a pretty far cry from kids locked in a basement, tortured and starved. And their marriage seemed ok before Jodi. They would have just been ordinary narcissist parents that kids trepse back to on Thanksgiving once a year and put behind them them the rest of the year, like many of us do.
yeah they were or are mormaon. just goes to prove that religion doesn't trump pathology. @@patty-pat-pat
maybe she figured out she got the short end of the stick bc of their religion @@barbtries I cant wait till the trial!
how did the husband "not know" what was going with the kids?
Kevin is defenitely not a good father.
Makes me sick. This guy demands an immediate divorce from the courts but couldn't demand anything from jodie, let alone immediately. Like move back in with your "wife" and family.
When a spouse faces criminal charges and a court trial, getting a divorce will protect financial assets. Ie kevin will keep money that can’t be touched by the courts, by fees, by anything legal
Oh I get the legal part and it shows that is all he is concerned about
Kevin absolutely did know that Ruby was controlling, would routinely deny the children food, etc. - that all was happening before Ruby even met Jody. Kevin is a weak man & a liar & needs to be held accountable for looking the other way on some really abusive things.
What a crock! He's trying to save his own neck!
The two grown kids need to tell the truth about their scummy dad! Kevin is just as much GUILTY as Ruby! The NERVE of this MONSTER DAD!
Why isn't Kevin concerned about the church's responsibility in referring all these people to Jodi? They knew she was destroying families
Church of Je$u$ Chri$t of latter day $aint$. Okay? Got it? 😢😢 bye.
That’s a good question. I would sued the church. The basis is the guy who had Jodi’s license suspended for 18 months. The church knew at the time and continued to refer her to others. They are duty as well.
@laurenmay2098 yes they did! It was Adam Steed
@carolynmoe1796 Yes, that is his name. He is such a brave man. He fought bravely to the eigjts to see his kids or was just one daughter. My memory is bad, but he is a hero, fighting against a very powerful organization, and he won!
Great interview. You asked the necessary questions.
The kids need to get a lawyer & sue the parents for gross neglect! Plastering them all over the internet & embarrassing them while they made money off of it. That alone is Just sick behavior & the father was a part of that & a knowing participant!
He was in cohorts with her in this mess from the beginning and now he wants a divorce.
hes so GUILTY! He needs to be in jail as well.....
12:08 there was "allegations" prior to that of corporal punishment 🤬 he's a lying liar !!!
Right?! Immediately thought the same thing too. CPS was there all the time! Even before Ruby met Jody too.
I don't trust him. He let her do stuff to the oldest & gave zero F's 🤦🏼♀️ what did he find out, she was "with" Jody??? If so that's the only reason I think he would want a "immediate divorce". Jody was taking up his side of the bed.
This lawyer must be forthright- even when the police returned the electronics, Kevin wasn’t happy that they were not charging his daughter. His response then was he, himself would research the matter if they weren’t prepared to charge her!! Kevin was aware of how the children were being disciplined by Ruby when he LIVED in the house!! Even then he couldn’t stand up for the children! He was more concerned about the electronics than the children
indeed, what was on the computers ?
I cant fathom where your father tries to get you arrested not once but twice....and told the cops that he was going to "look into it further" to get her charged...and you talk through it and are now "best of friends" that is assanine
It's a fairytale
He looks like he has aged 50 years since he became the husband's lawyer 😆
Could the LDS church be financing this attorney? And essentially coercing an otherwise good and honest man? To do massive damage control on the whole Jodi Hildebrand/Ruby Franke scandal?
I thought that too! Just two months ago he was looking quite dapper! Now he looks rough.
Kevin KNEW. Yes, he knew. BEFORE he left the house, abuse and crazy stuff was already going on!!! He admits it during his interview. He is ABSOLUTELY knowledgeable. He only divorced so he could get the kids and continue with the mental abuse and Mormon craziness. Then, if Ruby gets out, she'll remarry him. Planned.
My cynical thought is that he's talked to ruby and they planned together for him to file for divorce to gain custody of the kids so that when she's released she'll have them all back together waiting for her 🤢
That's my thought too. They would rather "show" divorce to keep custody and control of the kids through Kevin than for him to "look" supportive of Ruby (which he is 100% was throughout the abusive years). They will do anything to keep control of the kids and the influences in their lives.
I don't think she will ever be able to be around her kids! That's a wrap!
I hope Kevin is charged f that Ruby stays locked up until all.kifd are adults!
The attorney looks absolutely worn out but lying, putting out fires and trying to keep your stories straight will do that to you.
Is the lawyer a mouthpiece of the LDS church?! Whitewashing.
He should be in jail to!
for what?
Such totally bizarre people. I cannot imagine raising children and them not being your main focus. Your life should be centered around the family as a whole. Ruby seems to be a construct of modernity as presented in Women's magazines, from dress, posture and environment. I get that vibe immediately when I see her in the online presentations. When a person role plays they have no clue who they truly are. They are empty vessels filled with modern imagery. She is finding out now who she truly is.
Good understanding but I doubt she's finding this out now, as she's still dealing with survival.
Kevin is not an innocent flower. Absolute nonsense.
This man should never, ever be awarded custody of anyone's children.
Not his own, not anybody's.
Ruby was infatuated with Jody, I think. Jody is kind butchy and Ruby is definitely a lipstick so they had an attraction and wanted to hide it.
I don’t think Ruby was infatuated with Jodi, but the opposite. I am not against of people getting together, but it looks like Jodi did separated Kevin and Ruby to develop it a deeper relationship with Ruby. Of source she was using Ruby as well.
ya think? Jodi slept with Ruby in the marriage bed; Kevin was cuckolded
100% of that money should be divided between the 6 kids!! The only reason they have that money was through exploiting them for yours!!
In an early interview with Jesse Weber, this lawyer said that Kevin had BLOCKED the children's phone numbers because Ruby told him he couldn't have contact with the kids. Now he claims Kevin is in "constant contact" with his adult children? I'm sorry. Not buying the doublespeak trying to make Kevin appear as caring & concerned father. He's. just. not.
He does not want to pay her legal fees.
Yeah, this is 100% a legal ploy on his part. The guy is on tape participating in cruel and manipulative parenting for years, whether or not it had yet escalated to duct tape. Clearly, starvation was already on the table when he was on record endorsing it. Also, this attorney has made multiple statements in the past about how Kevin was trying to reconcile with Ruby and save his marriage. To say now that he has wanted a divorce all along is at odds with those prior statements to say the least. He’s trying to massage this into something new.
No, Kevin was NOT upset about "losing his personal electronics" when cops broke down the door & when Shari was getting the other kids' stuff - Kevin had moved out over a year before! He's no knight in shining armor!
Thank you so much. The lawyer explained alot of my quiestions. I cried when he said the two older kids are back with their Dad and doing very very well. I have hope for all the kids.
So his wife is where she belongs in prison, and now he decides to divorce her? He obviously knew what she was doing to the children and didn’t seem so concerned at that time. While we don’t know the whole story, it doesn’t appear he ever tried to stop her.
I can't believe this attorney is online talking about the divorce before the kids were notified. That is a jerk move
He is their father. I’m tired of fathers walking away and washing their hands of any responsibility. He needs to be held accountable. I remember when everything first happened and he wanted his daughter arrested. He is horrible and I hope he gets charged
It’s so crazy when people get into these situation and you watch them turn on each other
She's already forced her husband out of their children's lives. She deserves everything coming to her, including divorce and losing custody of her children.
And jail. Don't forget jail.
They both deserve jail time for what they did to those kids
Both! He is in videos talking about HIS punishment for the kids! HE IS ALSO SICK is incredible he is not in jail when he is in videos helping ruby to do all of this to this kids!
Forced her husband out of the kids lives? 🤔 my husband couldn’t force me out of my kids life.
@@marymackxo Did you even watch the vid? He hadn't seen his children for over a year based on Jodie's advice to stay away from his children. Stop embarrassing yourself with your ignorance.
He’s getting a divorce to get kids and then ruby will tell him how to control them from jail he’s disgusting
He was an accomplice in this sick behavior.
I bet the conviction and sentencing of the boy in the box father was a sobering moment for this guy.
Yep. Although Mr Ferriter was given an incredibly light sentence in the end.
I doubt it
What's that case called? "The boy in the box" & is it recent?
@@HughMadBroTim Ferriter was the boys dad who was sentenced Thursday. He was arrested in 2022.
@@maddisonbythesea3015Oh my gosh, really!? I can’t believe the fact that such a well known cold-case being solved didn’t make bigger news!
I hope he's arrested for being part of this. He should get an extra 10 years if he testifies that he had no idea what was going on.
So many people agree that Kevin should definitely have something coming his way as far as the allegations BUT as it seems in sooo many things I’ve seen and listen too and tried researching myself it’s looking like before they children we’re found at Jody‘s that somewhat in the laws eyes none of the parenting that Kevin was involved in was at fault. It’s like they saw no fault in that but only in everything that’s happening at the moment now …it’s like it’s solely based just on what was happening at Jody‘s house so if you look at it in that aspect if I’m saying that right … then he wouldn’t be facing any charges… . I agree he definitely had hand and treating these kids extremely wrong over the course of their entire lives but he wasn’t there for this exact crime so I doubt he’ll face anything at all But even if he doesn’t I seriously hope to god if Sherrie is wanting them to stay with her That the court will let them be .. I’m also hoping that all of this has changed the way Kevin thinks parenting is supposed to be done but I don’t know if us (the public) will ever fully know that for sure.
I think if dcfs didnt have some feeling he was bad he would have gotten his kids back already. Its been 3 months.
It’s true that Kevin hasn’t been criminally charged. That doesn’t mean that he’s innocent. The last I heard from this lawyer was that Kevin wanted to stay married. This lawyer is a real piece of work, just like his client
Dude knew this was going on the whole time and did jack $hit about it and that's why he doesn't have custody of his own children. This filing is just theater to deflect blame.
Kevin needs to go kick rocks! He stood by and watched this tragedy happen!
Are the kids okay now?
The poor children are underweight so he didn't notice this
She asks like she doesn't love her kids and seems to punish them for being alive and human.
I think i have a completely diffetent view on this than everyone. I feel like Ruby manipulated him and then she was manipulated by Jodi. In the beginning he wasn't around enough and Ruby had complete control over the children and convinced him that is how you raise children then once Jodi came in she convinced Ruby that Kevin wasn't anything except a hindrance. Kevin was a doormat to both women and just accepted everything that he was told.
I agree
A grown man allowing himself to be manipulated is his excuse for abandoning his children! You got a screw loose if you actually think this guy is a victim. He wanted his oldest daughter to be arrested. He is just as sick in the head as his crazy wife! The only victims here are the CHILDREN 😢
@@brendahastings3985👏👏👏👏 He’s only filing for divorce now in order to protect assets and him thinking he will get custody of the kids. Not to mention to dodge charges. His lawyer saying “it hadn’t crossed his mind” that Kevin would be called to testify shows the level of stupidity we’re watching.
He's just a weak man. What is unusual is that men are in charge of...everything...in the Mormon church. Women are taught to obey whatever the man (husband, bishop, father, any male) tells them to do. So, not buying it. He's morally culpable if not legally, and a wimp to boot.
It’s the only way to protect assets. He could have divorced at ANYTIME.
I’m still waiting for him to be behind bars and unable to obtain custody of his children ever again! 🤷🏼♀️
Still shouldn't get the kids. At least not until after he recognizes his wrongs and takes real classes on how to parent. Nice to see him take his balls back though.
He think he is a good father because he stayed away from his kids for almost two years. He was trying to keep his family together, and I am thinking, what? How is that possible? There is no family together without a father.
He needs to be arrested!!! He is just as guilty!!! He knew.