Excellent video. My daughter's 2018 Escape had a new short block kit installed. I wanted to understand the extent of work that was done to her car. Thanks for the video.
Was that done under warranty? How many miles? Our fleet 2017 has 75,000 miles and has a coolant leak into the cylinders and Ford told us we were screwed. Thanks Ford. Reasons I only buy Toyota for my personal vehicles.
Was the engine work on your vehicle done under the warranty? My daughter's 2018 Escape needs engine work, she has 60,292 miles on it. It actually stop on her in December.
Hi brother I have to say , ur the man 👨 u did a very good job swiping that engine block , and what I liked the must ur area it’s pretty clean , that shop it’s spotless I like 👍 that , a shop that clean it says a lot bout the ppl or person that works in there and bout their work that u guys do in there , thank you very much for sharing this valuable video with us , and keep up the good work, and God bless u and all ur family and to give u more knowledge in many ways 👍👍👍👍👍👍
The dealer built this offsite shop in summer of 2019. They removed the concrete, added floor drains and then poured a thicker slab. It's a beautiful facility and it's just as clean now as it was then. Thanks for your comments!
Just found out yesterday from FORD that my fleet vehicle, 2018 Fusion 1.5L, needs a new short block. 84,000 miles. Thank God it’s a fleet vehicle and I didn’t pay for it.
Thanks for this giant video! Do you know the different between the 1.5 l Ecoboost engines with 160hp and 165 hp? Ist the one with 165hp the new block like you built in? And the most important question is, how can I see, wich kind of block is used for the engine?
My 2018 went in for the PCM reprogram in May. Everything went great....come to December I am low on coolant and high on oil.... I was told I would be getting a new small block build, but the warehouse was slow due to COVID, Holidays, and Inventory....hope it doesn’t take too long.... Wonder what the engine rebuild will do to resale value?
Well that stinks. We have a really good parts department and they carry multiple at all times. If they give you the runaround and this goes on for weeks then don't hesitate to find another dealer. Don't think it will do much to up resale value but definitely won't hurt. Good luck!
He's right. Not all dealers are the same. Some are set up well and look for this type of work, while other dealers may not want the job for some reason. Along with the short block, there's also several pages of additional parts, like nuts and bolts, Ford requires for the job. If just one of those small parts is on back order, they may use that as an excuse to delay the job. If you are near a Lincoln only dealership, don't hesitate to take it there either.
Awesome video! I'm a little late but I'm currently going through some issues on my wife's 2016 1.5 fusion I was wondering could I drop in a 2020 escape or fusion into my 16 with no issues? Thankkkk you!!!!!!!!!
OMGosh RCW, I rate this one (with a cup of coffee) a great big ole 10. Went back to 14:01 a couple times to understand problem. So, the block was redesigned after this issue became apparent?
I appreciate that! It took me 7 hours to edit, add affects, music, design thumbnail and upload. I have a ton of respect for UA-cam video producers now, that I didn't in the past. From what I understand, Fords current production line is using the updated design. There is also an updated PCM program for coolant after run. When engine is shut off, the computer will run the coolant pump for a few minutes to allow the engine to cool down and alleviate "hot spots"
Thank you for making this video My 2019 Fusion 1.5L went in today for this service. My Gosh that is a lot of work to complete that. I love my car and hope everything turns out okay.
@@rellstuttin9198 Bought it new June of 2019. I am sure ford knew these engines were going to fail when I bought it. It is a design flaw. since the replacement of the short block I have had no problems with it and it runs and drives great!
Hello! We have a Ford Kuga 1.5 Ecoboost, 110 kw, from 2017. We have a serious problem with it after replacing the short block, the car won't start. Now that I saw the video I realized that we don't have the blockers to replace the short block, could you please tell us the blocker kit code? We mounted the short block without blockers and only used those for distribution.
@@raincitywrench117 Little update, My car is in the shop again for coolant intrusion after driving less than 2000 miles. This time I am having the whole engine replaced under my extended warranty I got when I purchased the car.
@raincitywrench117 I couldn't tell ya, I plan to ask my service advisor when I get it back what caused it to happen again. For now I'm gonna enjoy the 2024 active they lended me 😂
63 years old, owned a used car lot for 39 years. I am done the blue oval. Piss poor quality, no regard for cust satisfaction. Stock price low due to poor mgmt. Camphazers, headgaskets, engine blocks, timing chains, TOYOTAS are way BETTER!
hi....thanks for great video. i have f.focus 1.5l ecoboost 4 cylinder and 6speed auto trans (not dct). car MFT 2015 in thailand. does it have the same saw cut coolant passage short block? lot of friend of mine with same vehicle replace new 'engine' due to waste oil entering cyc 2(closer to pcv port line from turbine). it is because the old intake manifold didn't have the revise design that allow waste oil flow back to oil filter line thus getting suck to combustion and destroying the piston or soaking and 'eating' the wet intercooler. but we manage to get a revised version intake manifold from china and install by ourself. it is believed that european model 1.5l ecoboost etc kuga is using this revise manifold. and regarding this leaking coolant to combustion isn't it was because the warp happen to open deck cylinder block so it move the head gasket and create a leak passage. i know first batch rs(2015) have the head gasket wrongly fit with mustang 2.3l head gasket that have different shape coolant passage hole.
I can't say if your engine does but if the degas bottle starts losing coolant and can't see a leak then it probably has the machined slots. From what I understand, there is not enough material for the cylinder head combustion ring flange to seal due to slight cylinder distortion.
Sorry about the delayed response. You probably already have this done. Here is the specs: Tighten the flexplate bolts in sequence shown in 4 stages. Torque: Stage 1: 133 lb.in (15 Nm) Stage 2: 18 lb.ft (25 Nm) Stage 3: 22 lb.ft (30 Nm) Stage 4: 90°
Haven't seen a maverick yet. Just logged into PTS and checked out the 2 liter. It has the drilled block in the diagram so definitely running the updated design.
thanks for your video, I salute you! but I have question does it need to resurface the cylinder too, I have 38,000 miles should I resurfaced the head or just clean it? your answer really help me. Thanks again!
I have a Ford Kuga/Escape (2017) from Germany with a 1.5L ecoboost engine. Do the engines from Europe have the same problems? It seems I have the exact same problem.
Great video. I have a 2017 ford escape. Took it to the dealer for the pcm update 19B37 the last week if may. It had stored missfire codes. said it needed a new short block. told me 2 or 3 weeks. 2 months and still waiting. I call and check, but they keep telling me next week. I have been a ford employee for 25 years.I work at the plant. Die hard Ford fan all my life. Not anymore cant stand the ecoboost. 2nd one still problems.
I would start to raise my voice a little because that is not acceptable. It's a three to four day job, week maximum if the tech is working slow. It could be the dealer is overbooking and they haven't even started on it, have an incompetent service manager, technician or both. The 1.5l has the issues and not the 2.0L. After you get the updated 1.5 block it won't have those problems anymore. I think Fords best days so far were under Mulally. Since his departure, Ford has had way too many warranties, bad designs and failed roll outs. Ford needs to turn things around and rite the ship. Hope you get your vehicle sorted out soon. Good luck
Hey I’m also having this problem but I already ordered the new block I have an extended warranty so I’m ok on that end but is it ok to drive like this for 1 month???? I have no other method of transportation. Would there be a temporary fix or just leave as is and would it be ok to drive?? I would like to hear your opinion please
Depends how bad it is. If it takes days or weeks for the coolant to drop in the degas bottle then you will be fine to drive it. If the coolant drops drastically overnight then water will get into the crankcase and the engine won't last long. As for a temporary fix, you could put a bottle of stop leak in but I don't recommend because when you swap the engine out there still will be stop leak in the radiator, heater core, intercooler, oil cooler, etc.
MY TECHNICIAN CLAIMED THE CYLINDER HEAD IS FAULTY AND WILL BE REPLACED WITH THE WHOLE COST OUT OF MY POCKED. , IS IT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY? OR THE TECHNICIAN DAMAGED THE HEAD DURING PROCESSING. HOPE YOU CAN GIVE ME PIECES OF ADVICE, THANK YOU FOR ANY COMMENTS.
This is not a Ford recall even though it should be IMO. It is only covered under factory warranty. Think its 5yr 60k powertrain. Was your engine losing coolant? Ford will replace the cylinder head also only if it's under powertrain warranty.
My 2017 Ford escape 1.5L had a long block replacement the summer of 2021. I just discovered that my coolant reservoir is extremely low in coolant. I don’t understand how this could be happening again. Did the dealer simply not ever fix it or did they replace a faulty engine block with another faulty engine block? Or is it possible that something else is going on?
Anything is possible but what I would do is have a pressure tester installed to the degas bottle. Easy and quick to do. I pressure the system @ 15psi overnight then inspect for coolant on the ground, hoses, radiator, etc.
In the middle of doing the head gasket on my 2014 fusion with the 1.5 l. With just doing a head gasket will i need all the timing tools or can i mark everything well and just reasonable. Or would i be better served by calling my buddy at the dealership to have him finish the gasket and retime as side work?
You definitely need the tools. Here is a video of me setting up a 1.5L ua-cam.com/video/WbvpS_NS__Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RainCityWrench www.amazon.com/Camshaft-Compatible-Ecoboost-303-1097-303-1550/dp/B07TCMF9TH/ref=asc_df_B07TCMF9TH/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366306749487&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13175789846399679557&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033404&hvtargid=pla-1004293265272&psc=1&mcid=129eac443f02393bae61a80ee327dae7&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=75066162654&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366306749487&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13175789846399679557&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033404&hvtargid=pla-1004293265272&gclid=CjwKCAiA3JCvBhA8EiwA4kujZsaN779UPIx_d17D9Pu8wY6xS06DSCT5ISpCSKbZRBCfhdrKux8iRRoC0a4QAvD_BwE
Has anyone ever put one of these in a rear wheel drive car? If so, what transmission would you use? It could be a fun little hot rod power plant in a car like the Riley 1.5.
Ford is selling the 2.3 Ecoboost (completely different block-it's based on the MazdaSpeed 3 block) as the small crate engine...much more robust than the 1.5. It's got a timing chain 😉
I just took my 2017 1.5 eco boost when I bought it 4 months ago from the dealership and 2 months after I bought it the engine block cracked and was seeping coolant into the cylinders did they just now apppve of these or the block they replaced it with 2 month ago the most recent because my car is behaving the same way that it was before they replaced it the first time?
Ford only has one updated engine block which has been out for years now. I suspect workmanship issue or something is cracked like the intercooler or cylinder head. Need to get it back in and have a cooling system pressure test done.
@@raincitywrench117 will do brotha can’t believe ford is not doing the recall on these motors anymore I guess it’s a class action lawsuit going on right now but taht doesn’t mean anything really lol
A bunch of bolts on that engine are "stretch bolts" Cam bolts, crank bolt etc. have an initial torque setting with the final torque in degrees to stretch the bolt. The crank bolt for example, has an initial torque spec then turned 90 degrees then finally turning another 45 degrees.
I have a 17' Fusion with 60K that has been consuming coolant for about 12k miles now. Oil drains are done every 4k and at every oil drain the level in the degas bottle is below the minimum mark but above the hose nipple at the base. My selling dealer has looked at this concern twice with no trouble found. What would your advice be on getting this issue resolved?
I install a pressure tester to the degas bottle and leave it overnight then remove the plugs next morning & send a bore scope into each cylinder. Replaced a 2.0L engine with 37K miles a few weeks ago that had a tiny coolant seep into one cylinder. Sometimes the misfire monitor will set a pending misfire code but won't turn on the check engine light so scanning for misfire codes would be a good idea too.
@@leonardodanniellopez9249 The thermostat housing is located below the alternator and above the a/c compressor pictured in min 30:20. The degas bottle return hose, lower radiator hose and heater outlet hoses connect to the thermostat housing. Hope that helps.
@@raincitywrench117 What hose is connected to the first outlet that is from left to right of the thermostat taking into account that the thickest is the one that goes from the radiator that has been the third outlet
@@raincitywrench117 Another question, how many temperature sensors does that engine have, did it have a problem with code p1299? I already changed the temperature sensor that is in front of the steering wheel, thermostat, and recovery plug.
@@leonardodanniellopez9249 "P1299 Cylinder Head Overtemperature Protection Active Sets in the PCM when an engine overheat condition was sensed by the CHT sensor or the ECT sensor. A failure mode effects strategy called fail-safe cooling was activated to cool the engine." Possible Sources •Low coolant level •External engine coolant leak •Airlock in system •Pressure relief cap installation •Restricted airflow through A/C condenser/radiator •Internal engine coolant leak •Coolant condition/concentration •Non-OEM engine enhancement components •Electric cooling fan • ECT sensor •Radiator •Thermostat •Temperature gauge •Coolant pump •Coolant flow restriction I would check for air lock. I use this air lift to fill the cooling system on these vehicles: www.ebay.com/itm/144114534998?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1UJb4FmewTiCVCPAdWGW3bA66&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=144114534998&targetid=1644837434363&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9033404&poi=&campaignid=16743749222&mkgroupid=138744546207&rlsatarget=pla-1644837434363&abcId=9300842&merchantid=127669785&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyYKUBhDJARIsAMj9lkHe5KSRJU5fNYZIoGFYI5KyOn1yQDL23NCAzDsDsAXnBtM09kES5MsaAuqVEALw_wcB
@rain city wrench Whats up dude. I saw your shirt said BICKFORD FORD. Is that the one in Snohomish, WA or is there another one somewhere else in the country? I ask because im at EPIC FORD in Everett, WA. Im starting one of these jobs on Monday, and ive done plenty of long blocks, but never been unlucky enough to get a short block RO land on my bench. Im glad i found your video. I know there is workshop and everything on my computer at work, but its nice to have a video of the process just to go along with it now. Cause i dont gotta tell you, im sure you know how workshop can be pretty vague sometimes lol
Very nice! It's Bickford in Snohomish. I heard Nolan is over there now, I used to work with him. This video definitely doesn't follow the workshop manual. I'm with you, sometimes the manual is a lifesaver but many times I go rogue. If you do it like me and lift the body off make sure you have two jackstands under the transmission, one under engine oil pan and four stands at the corners. The key is to have the three stands that are under engine/trans adjusted so they all make contact at roughly the same time with one of them directly under the TRANSMISSION TORQUE TRUT. The four corner stands can have some gap, once the bolts are loosened the crossmember will drop down on them. Good luck! I also have a video on how I time this engine as they can be a little tricky if you are not familiar: ua-cam.com/video/WbvpS_NS__Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RainCityWrench
Right on thanks dude. And yeah Nolan works at the stall right next to me haha . Small world. We have a couple power train lifts, but that Jack stand method is good to know just in case the power train lifts are being used next time . The job kept getting pushed so I actually just started it yesterday. I got the engine and subframe out, and the tranny, turbo, main harness and all the hoses and evap shit removed. Now I just gotta pull the cyl head and a couple other minor things and I'll be halfway done!
Hello. I'm going to buy a 2019 Escape. The exact date of production is May 31, 2019. According to Ford information, the problem concerns cars produced until April 8, 2019. Can I be calm or better to let go of the purchase?
I can't say with 100% certainty but I was talking with our parts manager a couple months back about this exact issue. He's been with the dealer for 45 years and said Ford knows when everything goes in and out of production to the exact day. They have to in case NHTSA or Ford have to issue safety recalls. That being said, I think you are good.
@@raincitywrench117 even on a good day with all the bells and whistles it does have over 200k miles. Probably not going to get 4k for it. So to drop anywhere around 3k and up to replace/rebuild the motor isn't worth it. 🤔
That I can't say but they only manufacture the new version of block for the last couple years. Here is the link to the bulletin with the part #'s static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174400-0001.pdf
Have yet to see one of these recalls come back with failure. It should be under warranty. The cylinder head may be gouged, warped or the bolts not torqued properly. Tell them to get it right this time!
The 20-2100 is a technical service bulletin. The engine short block has been redesigned and will be replaced only if vehicle falls under factory warranty. Unfortunately it is not a recall. It sounds like coolant is entering the cylinders which is what this service bulletin addresses
My daughter just had her 2.0L Ecoboost replaced under warranty in her 2017 Escape. The dealer did not mention anything about a redesigned / updated engine block that would eliminate the possibility of a coolant leak again in the future. Is there some way for us to verify that she received the updated engine?
The 2.0L gets a long block vs the 1.5L short block. The bulletin lists the long block as pn# 6006. I don't know if your receipt will have part numbers but the undated design has been in production since 2019 so highly doubt you received an older version.
@@garylubbes7820 Good question. That is the first # in the recall parts list. If you were to somehow find the original long block number then that would tell everything.
Hello, i have a 13 fusion 1.6l did a head gasket 9 months ago and was all good. Back to missfiring again and using coolant. Looks like I'm going to need to do the short block. Is the service block you are using for the 1.5l the same as the one for a 1.6l? I'm hoping they updated the 1.6l also, but everything i read only states 1.5l. Figured the only person that might know would be another tech. Thanks
Just logged into Ford's technician workshop manual. The engines have different turbos, intake manifold, coils, fuel fail, etc but the block decks look the same. The picture on the 1.5 & the 1.6L both show the machined groove between the cylinders but they are black & white top pics only. So that is a good question. Why does the bulletin only apply to the 1.5L? I would search around and see if you can find a picture of a 1.6L deck or call your dealer to see if they have a short block you can look at.
@Rain City Wrench hey thanks for the reply. I've scoured the internet with no luck. The dealer here in southern oregon said they could get one in 2 days, but they've never sold one. They usually replace long blocks. Well that's a difference of $3,000 ... don't have a budget for that. With so many of these with an issue ,its weird that there is no documentation about the 1.6 being updated as well. They used that engine up until 2019, seems like there would be more info out there.
Fuel, that's not good. The only thing with fuel in it is the high pressure pump, fuel rail/injectors and supply lines Check the high pressure lines at the pump but be careful, they are under high pressure. The fuel injectors press straight down into the cylinder head in the middle of valve covers next to the spark plugs so check to see if one of the o-rings has a leak on the fuel rail.
I have a 2015 1.5 fusion with a bad head gasket. Ford telling me 7000 for a new engine but can I just replace the head gasket and short block and be ok? Forgive me I'm not sure if those 2 are the same or not
You sure can. The tsb is for replacing the short block and reusing the cylinder head. Here is the parts list if this link works: static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174400-0001.pdf If you are doing yourself then watch this video on how to set up timing:ua-cam.com/video/WbvpS_NS__Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RainCityWrench
Just had to leave my 2017 1.5 Escape with my local Ford dealer for this very repair.... luckily under extended warranty still. It's a shame that such a major design flaw was allowed into production... I just hope my new short block doesn't have the same issue, have you heard that the problem is corrected with the replacement blocks?
It's corrected. Have yet to see one come back plus have never seen updated design in new production come in for coolant loss. I think you will be good.
@@raincitywrench117 the engineers got rid of those inlets between the cylinders which caused fluid to seep in. Ford Boss Me channel did a great vid on this.
I replace my short block engine for new long block engine , now i have an extra water pump electric connecter! Should i just cut it or there is different water pump for long block engine ? Thank you
Are you talking about the auxiliary coolant pump that bolts to the bottom left side of the oil pan? I think depending on configuration, some models have that and some don't. The water pump on this engine is belt driven on the front of the engine. I would not cut the wires, just leave alone.
@@raincitywrench117 New E Pump, Advised To Cut Connector From Old Harness And Heat Shrinks The End, Gaskets And Additional Parts Must Be Purchased Separately, Includes Oil Pan, Valve Covers, Front Cover & Water Pump, 07/15/2013 - 07/31/2014, Fusion, 1.5L GTDI , this is the note on ford website for new long block engine, yes that one you talking about thank you
I have replaced the short block with the new designed one at Ford , but after replacing the car is underpowered at high speeds, i usually hit 142 mph with old engine , now i barely hit 125 mph , no codes or speed limit , what could be that ?
@@omarmahdy6931 Oh man, could be a number of issues. After replacing the block, misfire profile relearn needs to be done and resetting adaptives. If you don't have a generic scanner that can do these then you will need Factory IDS software. Other things to check would be for boost leaks, are there any charge tube clamps loose? Another thing to check is "calculated load" which can be done on a generic scanner, make sure it reads close to 100% under wide open throttle full load. Make sure there are no air restrictions like air filter or crap in the box. Also don't overlook basics like tire pressure and high ethanol winter blend fuel.
@@raincitywrench117 we're using IDS , we did misfire relearn and resetting adaptives , i'll check for any boost leak , and the "calculated load " . Air tubes and filter are in good conditions , using same fuel as before , how can i check for calculated load ?
@@omarmahdy6931 OK, sounds like you're on it. Calculated load should be one of the PCM data pids. I wonder if some of it has to do with the engine is "tight" & not "broke in" yet?
@@raincitywrench117I due know about the bad design , but if my 2014 Fusion 1.5 has 100k on it. Why not roll the dice with a head gasket change again. For you guys I understand not doing that. Just wondering considering the cost differences of rolling the dice and just doing the head gasket.
Hello, is this because the coolant leaks into the cylinder after the high temperature of the engine, or is the problem caused by its own design problem? Because, it seems that the Eco boost1.5 4-cylinder engine in the Chinese market does not have this problem (Well, the problem does not seem to exist in the mainland and Taiwan next door)
Definitely a design flaw with the engine block. The coolant transfer passage on the updated engine block deck has been drilled vs slotted to alleviate this.
Oh, I didn't expect you to reply to me. It turns out that not all the redesigned cylinders are the holes in the video. What are the slots? Isn't the old design also slotted?
You are correct. The old design is slotted and the new design is drilled. I don't know what the design is on the European/Asian engines, but is a good question.
Could you please tell if the short block part code is 2380224? My focus needs short block replacemen and the local garage doesn't know if it is the updated one.
20-2100 supersedes 19-2375 now but is essentially the same thing. It addresses 2014-2019 Fusion and 2017-2019 Escape models only. Engine part# is DS7Z-6009-G. The Focus comes with the 1.0 & 2.0 EcoBoost or 2.0 Duratec. The Focus does not come with the affected 1.5L EcoBoost. I am not aware of an engine short block tsb for the Focus but will look. Hope this helps.
@@raincitywrench117 The Focus Mk3.5 in Australia came with the 1.5 Ecoboost. Several reports of this happening here. Nothing from Ford Australia about the issue... yet My Focus has 100,000km on it, so I'm pretty nervous now as I'm well out of warranty.
Does this essentially give you a new engine? I'm not a mechanic and I understand all of the other stuff is original. Would you recommend replacing anything else while it's all apart? I have a 2017 Ford Escape with 115K on it. Looking to keep until I retire, I use it for work
It gives you a new engine block with crankshaft and pistons. It's a new "bottom end". The cylinder head and other components are transferred over. Here is the link for the tsb with parts list. Hope link works. static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174400-0001.pdf
The wife has a 17 Titanium Fusion with the 2.0 EB.... do those have the relief cuts like the 1.5 you swapped in this video? In what year did they change the block to that pass thru hole design? I must admit that looks awfully easy doing out the bottom like that. Her car might "let" me finally get a 2 post in the garage.. lol Lift cost and a crate motor is cheaper than the dealer for sure! How could she say no? lol
Just logged into Fords technician website & checked out engine disassembly pictures for the 1.5 & 2.0 ecoboost from years 2017-2021. The 2.0 has the same crosscuts but is a different engine, the charge air cooler is not in the intake manifold, fuel injectors go into the front of cylinder head vs the top & other changes. On the 2.0 liter, workshop manual does not show cross drilled head until 2021 but that does not mean they weren't in production earlier. Also, the 1.5 liter is a completely different engine starting in 2021. Sounds like a perfectly good excuse to get a lift to me! My next house will definitely have one.
Gotta 2015 Fusion 1.5 with 22kmiles on the clock. Thinking about getting it so i started doing my research and found tons of stuff on this junk motor. I'm glad i came across your stuff.
I just had my short block replaced and my gas mileage has dropped significantly. Is there any connection between this repair and reduced gas mileage? I am talking about at least 15% drop in mileage.
Strange. It's possible the crankshaft is turned off of the alignment stop when the valve timing was set up. I think if the crank was off it wouldn't throw a code but could effect fuel mileage. May be worth scheduling it back in and have them double check the alignment.
@@raincitywrench117 Thank you for the information. One more question: I watched another video that shows a second fuel pump on top of the engine. If this were to start failing would it throw a code? Thank you for all your help as I try to figure this out.
@@johnstransky3289 if the high pressure fuel pump started to fail you would have performance issues with possible lean faults. Try resetting your mpg readout in the instrument panel and drive it on the freeway, I’m sure it’ll be fine.
My 2017 fusion with 45xxx miles is at dealer getting a new short block.... do you suggest replacing water pump or anything else while they have it apart???
Ford does not include the water pump in this TSB, but everything else is. You will have to pay for the water pump if you want one installed but all other gaskets, bolts and seals will be replaced along with a new engine block. I haven't had a problem with a water pump yet after repairs but if you want a piece of mind, call them up and have one installed since they are already in there.
I think it can but haven't done one that way. Did a fusion hybrid & that one would not come out the top because the flywheel coupler sticks out too far. Look down at the crankshaft pulley, if it's a couple inches away from the frame then it should clear.
Not that I know of and there is not a TSB on the 2.0L for short block replace. The timing component configuration, cylinder head, etc are different on the 2.0L than the 1.5L
Rain City Wrench There is a TSB for coolant intrusion on the 2.0 but it calls for a long block replacement rather than short block. I guess it only effects the twin scroll 2.0 engines, of course that’s the one I have. I’m just worried that if I get it replaced it’ll have the same design flaw as before.
Colin Campbell You are correct, Ford has TSB 19-2346 that replaces the long block. I have not done one yet but watched a couple of the other techs do them. I heard the cylinder head is the issue on the 2 liters, they warp. 2.0 seem to be less common then the 1.5l for coolant ingestion
Great video I own a 2019 Ford escape in Australia . I have not heard of any problems with the 1.5 engines here lots of issues with the old 1.6 engine . Just wondering was this just a bad batch of engine block castings or is it a bigger issue? And are the Aussie engines built in the same engine plant as the ones in the states?
Good question. Ford stopped all production in Australia the end of 2016. I have no idea where Fords sold there are built but interested to find out. Will have to do some digging. Thanks for watching.
@@raincitywrench117 Most Ford's sold in Australia are built in Thailand (Mk3. Focus, Ranger, Everest), Spain (Escape, Mondeo) or Germany (Mk 4. Focus).
Do you recommend having both heat exchangers and the coolant bypass valve replaced and the transmission fluid filter replaced while everything is out of the engine bay?
Not necessary on this service unless damaged. The trans filter is integrated into the pump and not serviceable. I would recommend draining the transmission fluid for sure. 🙂
Yes. The crankshaft and camshaft phaser bolts need to be replaced. There are a few others but not really necessary. If you pull up the bulletin, Ford has a complete parts list with numbers. If you can't find it then email me and I can send you a snapshot.
quick question, the 1.5 Ecoboost is in my Focus, i am not sure if there are 2019 focus made. Do you by any chance know if it is the same engine as the Escape / Fusion?
Ford ended North America Focus production in 2018. As far as I know the 1.5L was only available in Europe for the Focus and the engine is slightly different. The 1.5 euro version has a wet timing belt and other differences. I don't know if the engine blocks are manufactured the same as the North American blocks affected in the TSB.
@@raincitywrench117 do you know the differences between the focus engine and Fusion / Escape?. Also yes the same issue is happening on the European 1.5 Ecoboost engines, that's why i wanted to know if i can fit the new block design to my Focus ( either blocks made for focus after 2019 or if that is not applicable and if the engines are all the same then i would get a fusion /Escape engine made after 2019 to have the new design. Can you help me out here?
As far as I know the European focus 1.5L I3 is the 3cy dragon engine which is completely different than the 1.5L I4 4cy ecoboost engine in the escape/fusion
Hi. I am looking to buy an ford focus 2015 with 1.5 Ecoboost engine and 140000km on engine. What do you think? Did ford focus from 2015 use that engine design or that year is not affected with bad engine design? Thanks
It must be a European Focus. I don't think Ford offered the 1.5L here in the united states. The 6 speed powershift transmission has all sorts of problems here in the USA. I would see what transmission it has before buying.
@@raincitywrench117 Thank you for the response! From my research, the the 2017 focus and fusion have same 1.5 ecoboost engine (with cuts between cylinders and that small sealing area). I own a ford focus 2017 1.5 ecoboost 4 cylinders automatic which developed at 22 000 km coolant leak in cylinder 2 due to head gasket failure. In May 2020, the local garage replaced only the head gasket. After few 3 hundreds of km, the car is loosing again coolant slowly and the coolant head tank is bubbling slowly...i believe is the head gasket again. Seeing your video i was wondering why ford isn't using the same fix for 1.5 ecoboost focus. I will talk to the mechanic. Thank you for posting this video.
@@badrequest3176 ua-cam.com/video/_8nQ1NZW_GI/v-deo.html explains very well the cause and the fix...between 2:00 and 4:50. Mine seems ok after two years from repalcement. Hope this answers your question.
This was a warranty job so I can't say but I think the warranty time was around 23 hours. The labor rate in this area is $200hr so that would put the labor somewhere around $4600 plus the parts. Prices these days are ridiculous 😥
@@joeestrada113 I work at a Ford dealer & our parts department supplies the updated short blocks. They are nice units fully ready to go and are backed by motorcraft warranty.
Because I heard alot problem about these engines but I heard they fix the issue and my warranty is 60,000 for 5 years which ever come because I do doordash was just wondering
@@Villeboy5 Hello there. Your engine is the updated design & with routine maintenance will last you a LOT of miles. There was another poster on here the other day that said they got almost 200k with the old design so you are good to go.
Good question. I have no clue what it takes to get a recall but I do remember the NTSB, public pressure and lives lost is what it took for GM ignition switches & side saddle fuel tanks, Toyota sudden acceleration syndrome & Takata air bags, Ford pinto rear fuel tanks, cruise control cutoff switches, etc... It could be people have to die first.
Hi! I'm having the same exact problem on my Fusion 2015 1.5L. First P0302 then white smoke from the pipe and overheating few days later. I brought it to a mechanic and he found a little crack on the short block. He told me about the TSB and apparently my car even without warranty will be taken care from a dealer. My question to you is since my vehicle has no warranty and its approaching 200k. Will they charge me for the service!? Thank you so much and great job you've done here!
I'm pretty sure your local Ford dealer will say you're hosed. It's way out of warranty and even if it wasn't, the dealer will need to perform leak test with documentation and tear down. Although it wouldn't hurt to ask cause you never know? On the bright side, you did get almost 200k on it which is pretty impressive!
@@raincitywrench117 Hosed you meant they wont take the car into the program because of the high millage or they would take it but charge me for labor? I'm asking because this is what I heard: If your car is out of warranty you may pay for labor. Thanks again for your time.
@@sofarsogolden9569 Sorry, what I meant to say is due to it being out of powertrain warranty they will not cover the cost of the repair. I'm sure your Ford dealer will gladly work on it but you will be on the hook for the entire cost, parts and labor. If you like your mechanic, he can order all the parts in the bulletin and repair for you, he may charge a lower labor rate then your dealer. If the vehicle is driveable, you can schedule an appointment with the dealer to have them diagnose and give you an estimate and that would be the only way that possibly they would cover it under the warranty. One of the other posters on here said there was a new class action lawsuit (I have not hear of it) may be worth looking into. Cheers
Great video! We're just getting ready to do one of these. How many hours can you do one in? Ford labor time on the TSB is 19.7 hours. Mitchell time for replacing a short block is 27.8 hours. Just curious since we haven't done one before.
Thanks. Ford is light on all their times & they force flat rate techs to speed through repairs. The first one I did was close to 30 hours, the last couple have come in around 24 hours. By the time you add in air lifting cooling system, charging a/c, double checking, test drive, clean up, etc then it's easily over 20 hours IMO. Luckily I'm hourly.
That is the current production block. Our parts department sends us the bock on a crate and the rest of the parts in a tote. Your local Ford parts department should have it or can order.
Hi, great video that helps people . This problem is also with 1.5EcoBoost (1.5L GTDI - Europe) FORD S-MAX / GALAXY , 2015-2019 ??? Thank you for answer :-)
Hi, I live in Europe, in Hungary. I have a Ford S-max (like MPV style Fusion/Mondeo) with 1.5 Ecoboost GTDI 4 cylinders engine, it was bulit in January of 2019. 35000 km on the clock (approx 22000 miles). No misfire, no white smoke, no MIL lamp, no any problem yet, but from the new age of the car the coolant level constantly and evenly decreasing MAX to MIN level line, what is approx 3 decilitre (approx 10 ounce) under 17-20000 km (approx 10500-12500 miles). I was at several Ford dealers, but they not appear any coolant leak, they just said: this small amount is normal, should be checked sometimes and refilling if needed. The european dealers do not know similar bulletin like the US TSB bulletins. I talked to several Mondeo/S-max/Kuga owners in the Hungary and the EU with this 1.5 ecoboost 4 cylinders engines, and most cars also run out of coolant in about this amount.
This is the service procedure outlined in TSB 20-211 that your dealer SHOULD be doing: "1. With the engine at normal operating temperature, pressurize the cooling system to 138 kPa (20 psi) and hold for 5 hours. Refer to the Cooling System Pressure Test in Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-03, Diagnosis and Testing. 2. Did the coolant system pressure drop more than 27.57 kPa (4 psi) after 5 hours? (1). Yes - proceed to Step 3. (2). No - this article does not apply. Refer to the Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis (PC/ED) Manual for normal diagnostics. 3. Remove the spark plugs. Refer to WSM, Section 303-07. 4. Inspect for coolant in the cylinders due to an erosion, corrosion, pitting and flatness of the engine block surface. Is coolant present in any cylinders? (1). Yes - proceed to Step 5. (2). No - this article does not apply. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01A for normal diagnostics. 5. Remove the engine and replace the engine short block. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01A." You need to keep pestering your dealership until they address your issue or find another one! Make absolute sure that your complaint is documented on the repair order & you get a copy each time until they fix it. Dealerships get fully compensated by Ford for this TSB, half the time our dealer doesn't even do the diagnostic procedure, they just install the updated block. Even if a customer is in the quick lane for regular maintenance without any complaints but the coolant is low, they will recommend doing the TSB.
Are the 2020 fusions with the 1.5 fairly reliable? I heard early on some had coolant intrusion issue but I would think they updated things to resolve that for 2020 fusions? If u happen to know anything on this please reply we’re looking at a 2020 to buy
Yea, I think so. It will have the updated short block. If it has the 6F35 transmission, I recommend maintaining the transmission fluid periodically also. Mercon LV gets real dark fairly quick. I like to drain and fill the transmission fluid about every 6th oil change on the wife's escape. Super easy to do. After draining the engine oil and replacing the oil filter I slide the drain bucket under the transaxle and completely drain it also. The drain is real obvious, it's an 11mm plug that protrudes down about 1/2. It takes 4.5qt mercon LV to fill. Transmission does not have a dipstick but you will not need to check it. Have serviced about 30 of these units.
@@raincitywrench117 is the updated block design post 6/2019 ? And after transaxle refill is there a level plug to pull to indicate full like you’d check a rear differential ? Only reason I ask is that I’m contemplating purchasing a used escape but the majority available only have the 1.5 Turbo. This block design issue is a real turn off, lol
@@bibbhccbibbhcc2493 Yes it is or at least that what Ford says anyways. It probably has a 6F35 transmission, the level plug is located on the driver side next to the cv axle. Put pan underneath, pull the allen head plug, fill fluid through rubber vent hose next to lower air filter housing until fluid comes out level plug hole & then start it up. With vehicle running, fill fluid until mercon lv dribbles out hole. Reinstall plug and you ae done!
I need help or anyone who has did engine swap on 2014 ford fusion 1.5 turbo quick question iam going to be changing out the engine with a used engine same engine i took out going back in with same engine now when i complete the install will the engine run or will i need to reprogram ecm or the pats keys
If you were replacing one of the modules or keys then yes, you would need to program but if you are just swapping an engine that is the same you shouldn't have an issue. Sometimes the misfire profile monitor need to be relearned but I would cross that bridge later if need be.
@@raincitywrench117 i have another question i need your help i was getting ready to do an engine swap on 2014 ford fusion 1.5 ecoboost turbo se only things i disconnected was the neg and postive battery cables i took the battery out and unplug the top harness of the ecm then i remembered that i have to let the fuel pressure out of the lines before i disconnect the fuel lines but in order to do that i have to pull the fuel pump fuse and let the car run till it dies so i hook the battery back up and put the top ecm connector back in the ecm now here is the problem i went to start the car now it wont say nothing all the dash lights work everything works radio etc but the car wont crank or say nothing what did i do i only took the battery out and disconnect the top ecm connector what do i have to do to make this car crank again it was cranking before i disconnect the battery and top ecm connnector
@@coreysolomon6814 You may have to get a pocket scanner and see if it has any codes. PATS antitheft codes will make it not crank. See if the check engine light does a bulb check when you turn on the key. I would double check the pcm connectors, make sure none of the pins are bent and the connectors fully seat. I like to push on the connector while moving the lever at the same time when seating. If all looks good then check all your fuses under hood and inside the car with a test light. Turn the key to run and touch each fuse on both sides while making sure there is power on both sides. Your owners manual will show fuse locations.
Did Ford issue a recall for this specific problem? I have a 2016 Fusion with the 1.5L Ecoboost and am wondering if/when they're going to make this right.
I don't see why not. I think there is plenty of room. If you have an escape, the transfer case has to be slid most of the way out or removed to get at one of the bellhousing bolts. Other than that it's pretty much like any other engine.
@@hidretrofitkit Won't have to worry about transfer case then. The hardest part will be getting the starter & flex plate nuts out cause it's pretty tight in there but other than that it should be straight forward & will be able to lift it out the top. I would start by removing the hood. Also, place a floor jack under the transmission to support it when removing the engine.
@@raincitywrench117 i appreciate it so much. I have never swapped an engine before. Bought the car with just the “blown head gasket” just to find out it’s a short block defect.
Much appreciated for this. My '19 Fusion is having this done right now and this helps me understand exactly what's being done to it.
Thanks for watching! Hope it all turns out well.
Excellent video. My daughter's 2018 Escape had a new short block kit installed. I wanted to understand the extent of work that was done to her car. Thanks for the video.
Was that done under warranty? How many miles? Our fleet 2017 has 75,000 miles and has a coolant leak into the cylinders and Ford told us we were screwed. Thanks Ford. Reasons I only buy Toyota for my personal vehicles.
Was the engine work on your vehicle done under the warranty? My daughter's 2018 Escape needs engine work, she has 60,292 miles on it. It actually stop on her in December.
Hi brother I have to say , ur the man 👨 u did a very good job swiping that engine block , and what I liked the must ur area it’s pretty clean , that shop it’s spotless I like 👍 that , a shop that clean it says a lot bout the ppl or person that works in there and bout their work that u guys do in there , thank you very much for sharing this valuable video with us , and keep up the good work, and God bless u and all ur family and to give u more knowledge in many ways 👍👍👍👍👍👍
The dealer built this offsite shop in summer of 2019. They removed the concrete, added floor drains and then poured a thicker slab. It's a beautiful facility and it's just as clean now as it was then. Thanks for your comments!
Yes very clean, he didn't even have any coolant drip from any hoses, there's always some coolant hiding in the bends waiting to dump out on you
Just found out yesterday from FORD that my fleet vehicle, 2018 Fusion 1.5L, needs a new short block. 84,000 miles. Thank God it’s a fleet vehicle and I didn’t pay for it.
Nice. I have a 17 Fusion in the shop right now with 87k that's leaking water in the crankcase. Has milky oil and not covered. Bummer on them.
Thanks for this giant video!
Do you know the different between the 1.5 l Ecoboost engines with 160hp and 165 hp?
Ist the one with 165hp the new block like you built in? And the most important question is, how can I see, wich kind of block is used for the engine?
Hi . Do you have any idea which engine model is M8DD15X (5cdbbamc), date of manufacture 22.03.2018?❤thank you very much!
My 2018 went in for the PCM reprogram in May. Everything went great....come to December I am low on coolant and high on oil.... I was told I would be getting a new small block build, but the warehouse was slow due to COVID, Holidays, and Inventory....hope it doesn’t take too long....
Wonder what the engine rebuild will do to resale value?
Well that stinks. We have a really good parts department and they carry multiple at all times. If they give you the runaround and this goes on for weeks then don't hesitate to find another dealer. Don't think it will do much to up resale value but definitely won't hurt. Good luck!
He's right. Not all dealers are the same. Some are set up well and look for this type of work, while other dealers may not want the job for some reason. Along with the short block, there's also several pages of additional parts, like nuts and bolts, Ford requires for the job. If just one of those small parts is on back order, they may use that as an excuse to delay the job. If you are near a Lincoln only dealership, don't hesitate to take it there either.
Awesome video! I'm a little late but I'm currently going through some issues on my wife's 2016 1.5 fusion I was wondering could I drop in a 2020 escape or fusion into my 16 with no issues? Thankkkk you!!!!!!!!!
What are all torques show specs in the video. Thaks
OMGosh RCW, I rate this one (with a cup of coffee) a great big ole 10. Went back to 14:01 a couple times to understand problem. So, the block was redesigned after this issue became apparent?
I appreciate that! It took me 7 hours to edit, add affects, music, design thumbnail and upload. I have a ton of respect for UA-cam video producers now, that I didn't in the past.
From what I understand, Fords current production line is using the updated design. There is also an updated PCM program for coolant after run. When engine is shut off, the computer will run the coolant pump for a few minutes to allow the engine to cool down and alleviate "hot spots"
I should probably learn how to change spark plugs before tackling this job 😂.
Thank you for making this video My 2019 Fusion 1.5L went in today for this service. My Gosh that is a lot of work to complete that. I love my car and hope everything turns out okay.
No problem. It is a bunch of work but your dealer most likely has done many and will have someone skilled working on it. Best of luck to you!
How many miles?
@@balor7 31k
2019!? That'd ridiculous brand new ..
@@rellstuttin9198 Bought it new June of 2019. I am sure ford knew these engines were going to fail when I bought it. It is a design flaw. since the replacement of the short block I have had no problems with it and it runs and drives great!
Hello! We have a Ford Kuga 1.5 Ecoboost, 110 kw, from 2017.
We have a serious problem with it after replacing the short block, the car won't start.
Now that I saw the video I realized that we don't have the blockers to replace the short block, could you please tell us the blocker kit code?
We mounted the short block without blockers and only used those for distribution.
Are you talking about the valve alignment tools?
My 2017 escape is about to have this done, I really hope this is a perm fix for the coolant issue.
You should be good to go. I haven't seen one return or at least for that same problem.
@@raincitywrench117 Little update, My car is in the shop again for coolant intrusion after driving less than 2000 miles. This time I am having the whole engine replaced under my extended warranty I got when I purchased the car.
@@CarolinaSlayer2324 Good call 👍Makes me wonder if the cylinder head is warped?
@raincitywrench117 I couldn't tell ya, I plan to ask my service advisor when I get it back what caused it to happen again. For now I'm gonna enjoy the 2024 active they lended me 😂
63 years old, owned a used car lot for 39 years. I am done the blue oval. Piss poor quality, no regard for cust satisfaction. Stock price low due to poor mgmt. Camphazers, headgaskets, engine blocks, timing chains, TOYOTAS are way BETTER!
hi....thanks for great video. i have f.focus 1.5l ecoboost 4 cylinder and 6speed auto trans (not dct). car MFT 2015 in thailand. does it have the same saw cut coolant passage short block?
lot of friend of mine with same vehicle replace new 'engine' due to waste oil entering cyc 2(closer to pcv port line from turbine). it is because the old intake manifold didn't have the revise design that allow waste oil flow back to oil filter line thus getting suck to combustion and destroying the piston or soaking and 'eating' the wet intercooler. but we manage to get a revised version intake manifold from china and install by ourself. it is believed that european model 1.5l ecoboost etc kuga is using this revise manifold. and regarding this leaking coolant to combustion isn't it was because the warp happen to open deck cylinder block so it move the head gasket and create a leak passage. i know first batch rs(2015) have the head gasket wrongly fit with mustang 2.3l head gasket that have different shape coolant passage hole.
I can't say if your engine does but if the degas bottle starts losing coolant and can't see a leak then it probably has the machined slots. From what I understand, there is not enough material for the cylinder head combustion ring flange to seal due to slight cylinder distortion.
Thank you for the photo of what the TSB actually addresses at time 14.04 Oh boy….
Just had a quick question. I can not find the torque speck of the flex plate can you please give me the specs
Sorry about the delayed response. You probably already have this done. Here is the specs:
Tighten the flexplate bolts in sequence shown in 4 stages.
Torque:
Stage 1: 133 lb.in (15 Nm)
Stage 2: 18 lb.ft (25 Nm)
Stage 3: 22 lb.ft (30 Nm)
Stage 4: 90°
I wonder if the 2022 Ford Maverick has drilled coolant passages vs the slits on the 2.0 eco?
Haven't seen a maverick yet. Just logged into PTS and checked out the 2 liter. It has the drilled block in the diagram so definitely running the updated design.
Hello. Please tell me when to replace the engine belt
Curious why you don't use assembly lube on your bearing surfaces.
Was actually out for this video so used motor oil but have a fresh bottle now and have used on the last couple I did.
thanks for your video, I salute you! but I have question does it need to resurface the cylinder too, I have 38,000 miles should I resurfaced the head or just clean it? your answer really help me. Thanks again!
I would just clean it with some 320 grit sand paper on a block. That's all that needs done. 🙂
I have a Ford Kuga/Escape (2017) from Germany with a 1.5L ecoboost engine. Do the engines from Europe have the same problems? It seems I have the exact same problem.
I honestly can't say but wouldn't surprise me if they do have same design.
Great video. I have a 2017 ford escape. Took it to the dealer for the pcm update 19B37 the last week if may. It had stored missfire codes. said it needed a new short block. told me 2 or 3 weeks. 2 months and still waiting. I call and check, but they keep telling me next week. I have been a ford employee for 25 years.I work at the plant. Die hard Ford fan all my life. Not anymore cant stand the ecoboost. 2nd one still problems.
I would start to raise my voice a little because that is not acceptable. It's a three to four day job, week maximum if the tech is working slow. It could be the dealer is overbooking and they haven't even started on it, have an incompetent service manager, technician or both.
The 1.5l has the issues and not the 2.0L. After you get the updated 1.5 block it won't have those problems anymore.
I think Fords best days so far were under Mulally. Since his departure, Ford has had way too many warranties, bad designs and failed roll outs. Ford needs to turn things around and rite the ship.
Hope you get your vehicle sorted out soon. Good luck
@@raincitywrench117 this is not true. I had the long block replaced. My coolant is below minimum again.
Hey I’m also having this problem but I already ordered the new block I have an extended warranty so I’m ok on that end but is it ok to drive like this for 1 month???? I have no other method of transportation. Would there be a temporary fix or just leave as is and would it be ok to drive?? I would like to hear your opinion please
Depends how bad it is. If it takes days or weeks for the coolant to drop in the degas bottle then you will be fine to drive it. If the coolant drops drastically overnight then water will get into the crankcase and the engine won't last long. As for a temporary fix, you could put a bottle of stop leak in but I don't recommend because when you swap the engine out there still will be stop leak in the radiator, heater core, intercooler, oil cooler, etc.
I like how it jumps right from dropping the engine and trans assembly to being down to the block instantly. Lol.
MY TECHNICIAN CLAIMED THE CYLINDER HEAD IS FAULTY AND WILL BE REPLACED WITH THE WHOLE COST OUT OF MY POCKED. , IS IT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY? OR THE TECHNICIAN DAMAGED THE HEAD DURING PROCESSING. HOPE YOU CAN GIVE ME PIECES OF ADVICE, THANK YOU FOR ANY COMMENTS.
This is not a Ford recall even though it should be IMO. It is only covered under factory warranty. Think its 5yr 60k powertrain. Was your engine losing coolant? Ford will replace the cylinder head also only if it's under powertrain warranty.
My 2017 Ford escape 1.5L had a long block replacement the summer of 2021. I just discovered that my coolant reservoir is extremely low in coolant. I don’t understand how this could be happening again. Did the dealer simply not ever fix it or did they replace a faulty engine block with another faulty engine block? Or is it possible that something else is going on?
Anything is possible but what I would do is have a pressure tester installed to the degas bottle. Easy and quick to do. I pressure the system @ 15psi overnight then inspect for coolant on the ground, hoses, radiator, etc.
In the middle of doing the head gasket on my 2014 fusion with the 1.5 l. With just doing a head gasket will i need all the timing tools or can i mark everything well and just reasonable. Or would i be better served by calling my buddy at the dealership to have him finish the gasket and retime as side work?
You definitely need the tools. Here is a video of me setting up a 1.5L ua-cam.com/video/WbvpS_NS__Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RainCityWrench
www.amazon.com/Camshaft-Compatible-Ecoboost-303-1097-303-1550/dp/B07TCMF9TH/ref=asc_df_B07TCMF9TH/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366306749487&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13175789846399679557&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033404&hvtargid=pla-1004293265272&psc=1&mcid=129eac443f02393bae61a80ee327dae7&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=75066162654&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366306749487&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13175789846399679557&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033404&hvtargid=pla-1004293265272&gclid=CjwKCAiA3JCvBhA8EiwA4kujZsaN779UPIx_d17D9Pu8wY6xS06DSCT5ISpCSKbZRBCfhdrKux8iRRoC0a4QAvD_BwE
Do u know if the 2017 ford escape 1.5l had a problem with engine block design causing a blown head gasket
Yes. 17-19 Escape 1.5L have the design flaw.
Has anyone ever put one of these in a rear wheel drive car? If so, what transmission would you use? It could be a fun little hot rod power plant in a car like the Riley 1.5.
That would be pretty cool. Adapting it to the transmission in a mazda miata would be a lot of fun also.
@@raincitywrench117, why hasn’t anyone done it yet?
@@chrishenniker5944 Who knows, maybe someone has?
Ford is selling the 2.3 Ecoboost (completely different block-it's based on the MazdaSpeed 3 block) as the small crate engine...much more robust than the 1.5. It's got a timing chain 😉
@@brentboswell1294 Nice!
I just took my 2017 1.5 eco boost when I bought it 4 months ago from the dealership and 2 months after I bought it the engine block cracked and was seeping coolant into the cylinders did they just now apppve of these or the block they replaced it with 2 month ago the most recent because my car is behaving the same way that it was before they replaced it the first time?
Ford only has one updated engine block which has been out for years now. I suspect workmanship issue or something is cracked like the intercooler or cylinder head. Need to get it back in and have a cooling system pressure test done.
going to do my soon thanks for the video. how about a few torque spec? it would help out greatly. thanks
Email me and I can get you that information. raincitywrench@gmail.com
Brotha need to do a video of full removal process I’m getting ready to swap in a newer motor 1.5 in a 2016
Wish I had one. Take your time and just start disconnecting and removing stuff.
@@raincitywrench117 will do brotha can’t believe ford is not doing the recall on these motors anymore I guess it’s a class action lawsuit going on right now but taht doesn’t mean anything really lol
can you please tell me what is the ew bloks number I mean part number ???
I am just curious. Why do you follow up with tighting the bolts with the breaker bar after they have been tightened with the torque wrench?
A bunch of bolts on that engine are "stretch bolts" Cam bolts, crank bolt etc. have an initial torque setting with the final torque in degrees to stretch the bolt. The crank bolt for example, has an initial torque spec then turned 90 degrees then finally turning another 45 degrees.
Stretch bolts are a pain
@@raincitywrench117 m
I have a 17' Fusion with 60K that has been consuming coolant for about 12k miles now. Oil drains are done every 4k and at every oil drain the level in the degas bottle is below the minimum mark but above the hose nipple at the base. My selling dealer has looked at this concern twice with no trouble found. What would your advice be on getting this issue resolved?
I install a pressure tester to the degas bottle and leave it overnight then remove the plugs next morning & send a bore scope into each cylinder. Replaced a 2.0L engine with 37K miles a few weeks ago that had a tiny coolant seep into one cylinder. Sometimes the misfire monitor will set a pending misfire code but won't turn on the check engine light so scanning for misfire codes would be a good idea too.
If you could explain to me how the hoses that go to the water intake are connected, where is the thermostat?
The thinnest hose that I do not connect to the thermostat, which one does it go on?
@@leonardodanniellopez9249 The thermostat housing is located below the alternator and above the a/c compressor pictured in min 30:20. The degas bottle return hose, lower radiator hose and heater outlet hoses connect to the thermostat housing. Hope that helps.
@@raincitywrench117 What hose is connected to the first outlet that is from left to right of the thermostat taking into account that the thickest is the one that goes from the radiator that has been the third outlet
@@raincitywrench117 Another question, how many temperature sensors does that engine have, did it have a problem with code p1299? I already changed the temperature sensor that is in front of the steering wheel, thermostat, and recovery plug.
@@leonardodanniellopez9249 "P1299 Cylinder Head Overtemperature Protection Active Sets in the PCM when an engine overheat condition was sensed by the CHT sensor or the ECT sensor. A failure mode effects strategy called fail-safe cooling was activated to cool the engine."
Possible Sources
•Low coolant level
•External engine coolant leak
•Airlock in system
•Pressure relief cap installation
•Restricted airflow through A/C condenser/radiator
•Internal engine coolant leak
•Coolant condition/concentration
•Non-OEM engine enhancement components
•Electric cooling fan
• ECT sensor
•Radiator
•Thermostat
•Temperature gauge
•Coolant pump
•Coolant flow restriction
I would check for air lock. I use this air lift to fill the cooling system on these vehicles: www.ebay.com/itm/144114534998?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1UJb4FmewTiCVCPAdWGW3bA66&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=144114534998&targetid=1644837434363&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9033404&poi=&campaignid=16743749222&mkgroupid=138744546207&rlsatarget=pla-1644837434363&abcId=9300842&merchantid=127669785&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyYKUBhDJARIsAMj9lkHe5KSRJU5fNYZIoGFYI5KyOn1yQDL23NCAzDsDsAXnBtM09kES5MsaAuqVEALw_wcB
@rain city wrench Whats up dude. I saw your shirt said BICKFORD FORD. Is that the one in Snohomish, WA or is there another one somewhere else in the country? I ask because im at EPIC FORD in Everett, WA. Im starting one of these jobs on Monday, and ive done plenty of long blocks, but never been unlucky enough to get a short block RO land on my bench. Im glad i found your video. I know there is workshop and everything on my computer at work, but its nice to have a video of the process just to go along with it now. Cause i dont gotta tell you, im sure you know how workshop can be pretty vague sometimes lol
Very nice! It's Bickford in Snohomish. I heard Nolan is over there now, I used to work with him. This video definitely doesn't follow the workshop manual. I'm with you, sometimes the manual is a lifesaver but many times I go rogue. If you do it like me and lift the body off make sure you have two jackstands under the transmission, one under engine oil pan and four stands at the corners. The key is to have the three stands that are under engine/trans adjusted so they all make contact at roughly the same time with one of them directly under the TRANSMISSION TORQUE TRUT. The four corner stands can have some gap, once the bolts are loosened the crossmember will drop down on them. Good luck! I also have a video on how I time this engine as they can be a little tricky if you are not familiar: ua-cam.com/video/WbvpS_NS__Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RainCityWrench
Right on thanks dude. And yeah Nolan works at the stall right next to me haha . Small world. We have a couple power train lifts, but that Jack stand method is good to know just in case the power train lifts are being used next time . The job kept getting pushed so I actually just started it yesterday. I got the engine and subframe out, and the tranny, turbo, main harness and all the hoses and evap shit removed. Now I just gotta pull the cyl head and a couple other minor things and I'll be halfway done!
@@michaelrbergy Very nice. If you have any questions, Nolan has done a couple of those jobs.
Hello. I'm going to buy a 2019 Escape. The exact date of production is May 31, 2019. According to Ford information, the problem concerns cars produced until April 8, 2019. Can I be calm or better to let go of the purchase?
I can't say with 100% certainty but I was talking with our parts manager a couple months back about this exact issue. He's been with the dealer for 45 years and said Ford knows when everything goes in and out of production to the exact day. They have to in case NHTSA or Ford have to issue safety recalls. That being said, I think you are good.
@@raincitywrench117 Thanks for the information. I hope everything will be ok and I will be happy with the purchase of the car.
I'm undecided on what to do with my 2014 Fusion. 2.0 EcoBoost. It has 214,000 miles. Not sure if it's worth rebuilding the motor. 🤔🤷♂️
That is a good question. I would have to say no especially if the quotes you get come in real high.
@@raincitywrench117 even on a good day with all the bells and whistles it does have over 200k miles. Probably not going to get 4k for it. So to drop anywhere around 3k and up to replace/rebuild the motor isn't worth it. 🤔
Do they have the same part no. For the old and new block to avoid confusion? Any link?
That I can't say but they only manufacture the new version of block for the last couple years. Here is the link to the bulletin with the part #'s static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174400-0001.pdf
My 2019 had the short block replaced. Now #2 is leaking again. Ford wants to throw a head gasket at it. Any advice?
Have yet to see one of these recalls come back with failure. It should be under warranty. The cylinder head may be gouged, warped or the bolts not torqued properly. Tell them to get it right this time!
@@raincitywrench117 exactly! Thanks!!
10th gen honda 1.5T and 2.0T has this exact open deck design which has been causing much more head gasket blowouts.
The more material on the deck the better. If I were a designer I would make sure it was as thick as possible.
Hello sir, does the coolant loss issue will have possibility to repeat again if we change new improved short block?
It’s a one time fix, the updated block is a permanent repair.👍
I have a 2018 escape 1.5, missing on cyl 3. Getting hot too, not really losing much coolant though. Is there a recall for the engine block?
The 20-2100 is a technical service bulletin. The engine short block has been redesigned and will be replaced only if vehicle falls under factory warranty. Unfortunately it is not a recall. It sounds like coolant is entering the cylinders which is what this service bulletin addresses
@@raincitywrench117 thank you for the reply, apparently it is still under warranty so we may be in luck
My daughter just had her 2.0L Ecoboost replaced under warranty in her 2017 Escape. The dealer did not mention anything about a redesigned / updated engine block that would eliminate the possibility of a coolant leak again in the future. Is there some way for us to verify that she received the updated engine?
The 2.0L gets a long block vs the 1.5L short block. The bulletin lists the long block as pn# 6006. I don't know if your receipt will have part numbers but the undated design has been in production since 2019 so highly doubt you received an older version.
@@raincitywrench117 excellent. Receipt does reflect 6006. Is that specifically the redesigned part # or just indicates a new long block 2.0L?
@@garylubbes7820 Good question. That is the first # in the recall parts list. If you were to somehow find the original long block number then that would tell everything.
Very nice work, impressive to say the least.
Thanks for the kind remarks!
Hello, i have a 13 fusion 1.6l did a head gasket 9 months ago and was all good. Back to missfiring again and using coolant. Looks like I'm going to need to do the short block. Is the service block you are using for the 1.5l the same as the one for a 1.6l? I'm hoping they updated the 1.6l also, but everything i read only states 1.5l. Figured the only person that might know would be another tech. Thanks
Just logged into Ford's technician workshop manual. The engines have different turbos, intake manifold, coils, fuel fail, etc but the block decks look the same. The picture on the 1.5 & the 1.6L both show the machined groove between the cylinders but they are black & white top pics only. So that is a good question. Why does the bulletin only apply to the 1.5L? I would search around and see if you can find a picture of a 1.6L deck or call your dealer to see if they have a short block you can look at.
@Rain City Wrench hey thanks for the reply. I've scoured the internet with no luck. The dealer here in southern oregon said they could get one in 2 days, but they've never sold one. They usually replace long blocks. Well that's a difference of $3,000 ... don't have a budget for that. With so many of these with an issue ,its weird that there is no documentation about the 1.6 being updated as well. They used that engine up until 2019, seems like there would be more info out there.
Please help I have a 2016 fusion 1.5 ecoboost and it’s leaking a ton of gas out of the head. Please let me know your thoughts.
Fuel, that's not good. The only thing with fuel in it is the high pressure pump, fuel rail/injectors and supply lines Check the high pressure lines at the pump but be careful, they are under high pressure. The fuel injectors press straight down into the cylinder head in the middle of valve covers next to the spark plugs so check to see if one of the o-rings has a leak on the fuel rail.
I have a 2015 1.5 fusion with a bad head gasket. Ford telling me 7000 for a new engine but can I just replace the head gasket and short block and be ok? Forgive me I'm not sure if those 2 are the same or not
You sure can. The tsb is for replacing the short block and reusing the cylinder head. Here is the parts list if this link works: static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174400-0001.pdf
If you are doing yourself then watch this video on how to set up timing:ua-cam.com/video/WbvpS_NS__Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RainCityWrench
@@raincitywrench117 wow that's it? You definitely made it look easy.. if only I had a lift. Should every shop have those alignment tools.
@@rellstuttin9198 I think the engine can be pulled out the top also. Any shop that works on Fords will have the tools.
Just had to leave my 2017 1.5 Escape with my local Ford dealer for this very repair.... luckily under extended warranty still. It's a shame that such a major design flaw was allowed into production... I just hope my new short block doesn't have the same issue, have you heard that the problem is corrected with the replacement blocks?
It's corrected. Have yet to see one come back plus have never seen updated design in new production come in for coolant loss. I think you will be good.
@@raincitywrench117 Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear that!
@@raincitywrench117 the engineers got rid of those inlets between the cylinders which caused fluid to seep in. Ford Boss Me channel did a great vid on this.
I am replacing the head on my 2019 ford fusion can you tell me the torque specs on la please
On lb please
Install the new cylinder head bolts and tighten in sequence shown.
Torque:
Stage 1: 44 lb.in (5 Nm)
Stage 2: 133 lb.in (15 Nm)
Stage 3: 26 lb.ft (35 Nm)
Stage 4: 90°
Stage 5: 90°
I replace my short block engine for new long block engine , now i have an extra water pump electric connecter! Should i just cut it or there is different water pump for long block engine ? Thank you
Are you talking about the auxiliary coolant pump that bolts to the bottom left side of the oil pan? I think depending on configuration, some models have that and some don't. The water pump on this engine is belt driven on the front of the engine. I would not cut the wires, just leave alone.
@@raincitywrench117 New E Pump, Advised To Cut Connector From Old Harness And Heat Shrinks The End, Gaskets And Additional Parts Must Be Purchased Separately, Includes Oil Pan, Valve Covers, Front Cover & Water Pump, 07/15/2013 - 07/31/2014, Fusion, 1.5L GTDI , this is the note on ford website for new long block engine, yes that one you talking about thank you
Did you lift the engine or drop it?
What grit sandpaper are you using to clean up the head?
320
I have replaced the short block with the new designed one at Ford , but after replacing the car is underpowered at high speeds, i usually hit 142 mph with old engine , now i barely hit 125 mph , no codes or speed limit , what could be that ?
Didn't know they went that fast? Thought it was governed around 100mph
@@raincitywrench117 in my country there's no speed limit , what can cause power loss at high speeds ?
@@omarmahdy6931 Oh man, could be a number of issues. After replacing the block, misfire profile relearn needs to be done and resetting adaptives. If you don't have a generic scanner that can do these then you will need Factory IDS software. Other things to check would be for boost leaks, are there any charge tube clamps loose? Another thing to check is "calculated load" which can be done on a generic scanner, make sure it reads close to 100% under wide open throttle full load. Make sure there are no air restrictions like air filter or crap in the box. Also don't overlook basics like tire pressure and high ethanol winter blend fuel.
@@raincitywrench117 we're using IDS , we did misfire relearn and resetting adaptives , i'll check for any boost leak , and the "calculated load " . Air tubes and filter are in good conditions , using same fuel as before , how can i check for calculated load ?
@@omarmahdy6931 OK, sounds like you're on it. Calculated load should be one of the PCM data pids. I wonder if some of it has to do with the engine is "tight" & not "broke in" yet?
Why can’t a new head gasket be done?
Due to the bad design on the engine block deck, the head gasket and short block both have to be replaced.
@@raincitywrench117I due know about the bad design , but if my 2014 Fusion 1.5 has 100k on it. Why not roll the dice with a head gasket change again. For you guys I understand not doing that. Just wondering considering the cost differences of rolling the dice and just doing the head gasket.
你好 请问这是因为发动机高温过后才会导致冷却液泄漏至汽缸内，还是因为本身设计问题导致该问题出现？ 因为，似乎中国市场的Eco boost1.5 4缸引擎并没有此故障（恩，大陆和隔壁台湾似乎都不存在此问题）
Hello, is this because the coolant leaks into the cylinder after the high temperature of the engine, or is the problem caused by its own design problem? Because, it seems that the Eco boost1.5 4-cylinder engine in the Chinese market does not have this problem (Well, the problem does not seem to exist in the mainland and Taiwan next door)
Definitely a design flaw with the engine block. The coolant transfer passage on the updated engine block deck has been drilled vs slotted to alleviate this.
@@raincitywrench117 哦，没想到您回复我了。原来并不是所有重新设计的缸体都是视频中这条的孔洞啊 开槽是？旧的设计不也是开槽吗？
Oh, I didn't expect you to reply to me. It turns out that not all the redesigned cylinders are the holes in the video. What are the slots? Isn't the old design also slotted?
You are correct. The old design is slotted and the new design is drilled. I don't know what the design is on the European/Asian engines, but is a good question.
Could you please tell if the short block part code is 2380224? My focus needs short block replacemen and the local garage doesn't know if it is the updated one.
20-2100 supersedes 19-2375 now but is essentially the same thing. It addresses 2014-2019 Fusion and 2017-2019 Escape models only. Engine part# is DS7Z-6009-G. The Focus comes with the 1.0 & 2.0 EcoBoost or 2.0 Duratec. The Focus does not come with the affected 1.5L EcoBoost. I am not aware of an engine short block tsb for the Focus but will look. Hope this helps.
@@raincitywrench117 The Focus Mk3.5 in Australia came with the 1.5 Ecoboost. Several reports of this happening here. Nothing from Ford Australia about the issue... yet
My Focus has 100,000km on it, so I'm pretty nervous now as I'm well out of warranty.
Does this essentially give you a new engine? I'm not a mechanic and I understand all of the other stuff is original. Would you recommend replacing anything else while it's all apart?
I have a 2017 Ford Escape with 115K on it. Looking to keep until I retire, I use it for work
It gives you a new engine block with crankshaft and pistons. It's a new "bottom end". The cylinder head and other components are transferred over. Here is the link for the tsb with parts list. Hope link works. static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174400-0001.pdf
Does anyone have the part number of the injector tool set that he is using Thank you. Nice Video
The set I have is for VW/Audi but works for this application also. www.ebay.com/itm/393896316639?hash=item5bb60ccedf:g:zxQAAOSwblth7kbl
The wife has a 17 Titanium Fusion with the 2.0 EB.... do those have the relief cuts like the 1.5 you swapped in this video? In what year did they change the block to that pass thru hole design? I must admit that looks awfully easy doing out the bottom like that. Her car might "let" me finally get a 2 post in the garage.. lol Lift cost and a crate motor is cheaper than the dealer for sure! How could she say no? lol
Just logged into Fords technician website & checked out engine disassembly pictures for the 1.5 & 2.0 ecoboost from years 2017-2021. The 2.0 has the same crosscuts but is a different engine, the charge air cooler is not in the intake manifold, fuel injectors go into the front of cylinder head vs the top & other changes.
On the 2.0 liter, workshop manual does not show cross drilled head until 2021 but that does not mean they weren't in production earlier. Also, the 1.5 liter is a completely different engine starting in 2021.
Sounds like a perfectly good excuse to get a lift to me! My next house will definitely have one.
Gotta 2015 Fusion 1.5 with 22kmiles on the clock. Thinking about getting it so i started doing my research and found tons of stuff on this junk motor. I'm glad i came across your stuff.
I just had my short block replaced and my gas mileage has dropped significantly. Is there any connection between this repair and reduced gas mileage? I am talking about at least 15% drop in mileage.
Strange. It's possible the crankshaft is turned off of the alignment stop when the valve timing was set up. I think if the crank was off it wouldn't throw a code but could effect fuel mileage. May be worth scheduling it back in and have them double check the alignment.
@@raincitywrench117 Thank you for the information. One more question: I watched another video that shows a second fuel pump on top of the engine. If this were to start failing would it throw a code? Thank you for all your help as I try to figure this out.
@@johnstransky3289 if the high pressure fuel pump started to fail you would have performance issues with possible lean faults. Try resetting your mpg readout in the instrument panel and drive it on the freeway, I’m sure it’ll be fine.
My 2017 fusion with 45xxx miles is at dealer getting a new short block.... do you suggest replacing water pump or anything else while they have it apart???
Ford does not include the water pump in this TSB, but everything else is. You will have to pay for the water pump if you want one installed but all other gaskets, bolts and seals will be replaced along with a new engine block. I haven't had a problem with a water pump yet after repairs but if you want a piece of mind, call them up and have one installed since they are already in there.
Can this engine be replace by lifting it up and out instead of lifting the car up ?
I think it can but haven't done one that way. Did a fusion hybrid & that one would not come out the top because the flywheel coupler sticks out too far. Look down at the crankshaft pulley, if it's a couple inches away from the frame then it should clear.
HI, MAT, WHERE IS YOUR GARAGE? I AM IN TORONTO, ONTARIO, CANADA.
Couple thousand miles away in Washington state 🙂
I do not have this problem (or any for that matter) but this gives me a good idea on an engine swap in case I decide to put a new build in.
What are you swapping this mill into?
Did they also change the passage design on the 2.0?
Not that I know of and there is not a TSB on the 2.0L for short block replace. The timing component configuration, cylinder head, etc are different on the 2.0L than the 1.5L
Rain City Wrench There is a TSB for coolant intrusion on the 2.0 but it calls for a long block replacement rather than short block. I guess it only effects the twin scroll 2.0 engines, of course that’s the one I have. I’m just worried that if I get it replaced it’ll have the same design flaw as before.
Colin Campbell You are correct, Ford has TSB 19-2346 that replaces the long block. I have not done one yet but watched a couple of the other techs do them. I heard the cylinder head is the issue on the 2 liters, they warp. 2.0 seem to be less common then the 1.5l for coolant ingestion
My 2019 ford fusion titanium with the 2.0 ecoboost and its in the shop getting a long block free of charge
Metalmachine467 Lucky that you’re still under warranty. If it happens to me I gotta pay out of pocket, unless Ford gets sued.
Great video I own a 2019 Ford escape in Australia . I have not heard of any problems with the 1.5 engines here lots of issues with the old 1.6 engine . Just wondering was this just a bad batch of engine block castings or is it a bigger issue? And are the Aussie engines built in the same engine plant as the ones in the states?
Good question. Ford stopped all production in Australia the end of 2016. I have no idea where Fords sold there are built but interested to find out. Will have to do some digging. Thanks for watching.
The Australian engines I believe are built in Romania were are the USA ones built
@@conrafael9465 I don't know. I'm thinking Mexico
@@raincitywrench117 Most Ford's sold in Australia are built in Thailand (Mk3. Focus, Ranger, Everest), Spain (Escape, Mondeo) or Germany (Mk 4. Focus).
Thanks for posting that.
Do you recommend having both heat exchangers and the coolant bypass valve replaced and the transmission fluid filter replaced while everything is out of the engine bay?
Not necessary on this service unless damaged. The trans filter is integrated into the pump and not serviceable. I would recommend draining the transmission fluid for sure. 🙂
any bolts that must be replace/one time use only?
Yes. The crankshaft and camshaft phaser bolts need to be replaced. There are a few others but not really necessary. If you pull up the bulletin, Ford has a complete parts list with numbers. If you can't find it then email me and I can send you a snapshot.
quick question, the 1.5 Ecoboost is in my Focus, i am not sure if there are 2019 focus made. Do you by any chance know if it is the same engine as the Escape / Fusion?
Ford ended North America Focus production in 2018. As far as I know the 1.5L was only available in Europe for the Focus and the engine is slightly different. The 1.5 euro version has a wet timing belt and other differences. I don't know if the engine blocks are manufactured the same as the North American blocks affected in the TSB.
@@raincitywrench117 do you know the differences between the focus engine and Fusion / Escape?.
Also yes the same issue is happening on the European 1.5 Ecoboost engines, that's why i wanted to know if i can fit the new block design to my Focus ( either blocks made for focus after 2019 or if that is not applicable and if the engines are all the same then i would get a fusion /Escape engine made after 2019 to have the new design. Can you help me out here?
As far as I know the European focus 1.5L I3 is the 3cy dragon engine which is completely different than the 1.5L I4 4cy ecoboost engine in the escape/fusion
@@raincitywrench117 no my engine is the 4 cylinder ( 2015 Focus )
@@remonmedhat8509 The 1.5 EcoBoost I4 should be the same then. The updated block in the service bulletin is DS7Z-6009-G
Hi. I am looking to buy an ford focus 2015 with 1.5 Ecoboost engine and 140000km on engine. What do you think? Did ford focus from 2015 use that engine design or that year is not affected with bad engine design? Thanks
It must be a European Focus. I don't think Ford offered the 1.5L here in the united states. The 6 speed powershift transmission has all sorts of problems here in the USA. I would see what transmission it has before buying.
Yes its european focus, from Germany. So you think that this could be ok?
VERY CLEAN SHOP AND WORK!!!!!
Appreciate that!
Hello! Could you please tell me if this 1.5 ecoboost 4 cylinders engine was used for 2017 ford focus?
As far as I know, the 2017 focus has 1.0 2.0 or 2.3 liter options only.
@@raincitywrench117 Thank you for the response! From my research, the the 2017 focus and fusion have same 1.5 ecoboost engine (with cuts between cylinders and that small sealing area). I own a ford focus 2017 1.5 ecoboost 4 cylinders automatic which developed at 22 000 km coolant leak in cylinder 2 due to head gasket failure. In May 2020, the local garage replaced only the head gasket. After few 3 hundreds of km, the car is loosing again coolant slowly and the coolant head tank is bubbling slowly...i believe is the head gasket again. Seeing your video i was wondering why ford isn't using the same fix for 1.5 ecoboost focus. I will talk to the mechanic. Thank you for posting this video.
any update on the cause?
@@badrequest3176 ua-cam.com/video/_8nQ1NZW_GI/v-deo.html explains very well the cause and the fix...between 2:00 and 4:50. Mine seems ok after two years from repalcement. Hope this answers your question.
Awesome video Matt! I'm about to do the same on a 2016 1.5 Fusion. Great Job and keep up the good work!
Thanks! Good luck to you.
How much will this cost? I believe I have the same problem with my 2016 fusion titanium. Is this something you do on the side?
This was a warranty job so I can't say but I think the warranty time was around 23 hours. The labor rate in this area is $200hr so that would put the labor somewhere around $4600 plus the parts. Prices these days are ridiculous 😥
Where can I buy a new block? The better version not the old
@@joeestrada113 I work at a Ford dealer & our parts department supplies the updated short blocks. They are nice units fully ready to go and are backed by motorcraft warranty.
Takes me 35 mins just to find the jack stands. 🤔
Does this effect the 2020 ford fusion model SE 1.5 ????
Nope, you should be good. Depending on the factory, it affected fusion models up to June 10th 2019
Hey I had Ford fusion 2020 se 1.5 ecoboost with 6426.9mi on do you think it's last me long if I maintain it
Because I heard alot problem about these engines but I heard they fix the issue and my warranty is 60,000 for 5 years which ever come because I do doordash was just wondering
@@Villeboy5 Hello there. Your engine is the updated design & with routine maintenance will last you a LOT of miles. There was another poster on here the other day that said they got almost 200k with the old design so you are good to go.
Why isn’t this a recall?
Good question. I have no clue what it takes to get a recall but I do remember the NTSB, public pressure and lives lost is what it took for GM ignition switches & side saddle fuel tanks, Toyota sudden acceleration syndrome & Takata air bags, Ford pinto rear fuel tanks, cruise control cutoff switches, etc... It could be people have to die first.
Is short block replacement a permanent fix? Can it be leak at same spot again?
It's permanent. I have yet to see a problem on the updated short block.
What are the head bolt torque specs ?
Stage 1: 44 lb.in (5 Nm)
Stage 2: 133 lb.in (15 Nm)
Stage 3: 26 lb.ft (35 Nm)
Stage 4: 90°
Stage 5: 90
Hi! I'm having the same exact problem on my Fusion 2015 1.5L. First P0302 then white smoke from the pipe and overheating few days later. I brought it to a mechanic and he found a little crack on the short block. He told me about the TSB and apparently my car even without warranty will be taken care from a dealer. My question to you is since my vehicle has no warranty and its approaching 200k. Will they charge me for the service!? Thank you so much and great job you've done here!
I'm pretty sure your local Ford dealer will say you're hosed. It's way out of warranty and even if it wasn't, the dealer will need to perform leak test with documentation and tear down. Although it wouldn't hurt to ask cause you never know?
On the bright side, you did get almost 200k on it which is pretty impressive!
@@raincitywrench117 Hosed you meant they wont take the car into the program because of the high millage or they would take it but charge me for labor? I'm asking because this is what I heard: If your car is out of warranty you may pay for labor. Thanks again for your time.
@@sofarsogolden9569 Sorry, what I meant to say is due to it being out of powertrain warranty they will not cover the cost of the repair. I'm sure your Ford dealer will gladly work on it but you will be on the hook for the entire cost, parts and labor. If you like your mechanic, he can order all the parts in the bulletin and repair for you, he may charge a lower labor rate then your dealer.
If the vehicle is driveable, you can schedule an appointment with the dealer to have them diagnose and give you an estimate and that would be the only way that possibly they would cover it under the warranty. One of the other posters on here said there was a new class action lawsuit (I have not hear of it) may be worth looking into. Cheers
@@raincitywrench117 got it! Well, thank u so much for ur time! I really appreciate it. It's drivable and I'll make an appointment with them soon.
Great video! We're just getting ready to do one of these. How many hours can you do one in? Ford labor time on the TSB is 19.7 hours. Mitchell time for replacing a short block is 27.8 hours. Just curious since we haven't done one before.
Thanks. Ford is light on all their times & they force flat rate techs to speed through repairs. The first one I did was close to 30 hours, the last couple have come in around 24 hours. By the time you add in air lifting cooling system, charging a/c, double checking, test drive, clean up, etc then it's easily over 20 hours IMO. Luckily I'm hourly.
@@raincitywrench117 What is the cost roughly on that?
@@nateandamber Our dealer charges $190hr so wouldn't be surprised if it's over 5 grand
I need my head gasket replaced on a 2014 Ford Fusion 1.5 engine I live in St Louis do you know anybody to recommend
Sorry, I don't. A local Ford dealer will probably be the most qualified but unfortunately real expensive. Shop it around for price and warranty.
Where did you find that new block?
That is the current production block. Our parts department sends us the bock on a crate and the rest of the parts in a tote. Your local Ford parts department should have it or can order.
Hi, great video that helps people . This problem is also with 1.5EcoBoost (1.5L GTDI - Europe) FORD S-MAX / GALAXY , 2015-2019 ??? Thank you for answer :-)
Good question. This TSB addresses 14-19 fusion and 17-19 escape but don't know if there is one for the European engines. Anyone else know?
Hi, I live in Europe, in Hungary. I have a Ford S-max (like MPV style Fusion/Mondeo) with 1.5 Ecoboost GTDI 4 cylinders engine, it was bulit in January of 2019. 35000 km on the clock (approx 22000 miles).
No misfire, no white smoke, no MIL lamp, no any problem yet, but from the new age of the car the coolant level constantly and evenly decreasing MAX to MIN level line, what is approx 3 decilitre (approx 10 ounce) under 17-20000 km (approx 10500-12500 miles).
I was at several Ford dealers, but they not appear any coolant leak, they just said: this small amount is normal, should be checked sometimes and refilling if needed. The european dealers do not know similar bulletin like the US TSB bulletins.
I talked to several Mondeo/S-max/Kuga owners in the Hungary and the EU with this 1.5 ecoboost 4 cylinders engines, and most cars also run out of coolant in about this amount.
This is the service procedure outlined in TSB 20-211 that your dealer SHOULD be doing:
"1. With the engine at normal operating temperature, pressurize the cooling system to 138 kPa (20 psi) and hold for 5 hours. Refer to the Cooling System Pressure Test in Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-03, Diagnosis and Testing.
2. Did the coolant system pressure drop more than 27.57 kPa (4 psi) after 5 hours?
(1). Yes - proceed to Step 3.
(2). No - this article does not apply. Refer to the Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis (PC/ED) Manual for normal diagnostics.
3. Remove the spark plugs. Refer to WSM, Section 303-07.
4. Inspect for coolant in the cylinders due to an erosion, corrosion, pitting and flatness of the engine block surface. Is coolant present in any cylinders?
(1). Yes - proceed to Step 5.
(2). No - this article does not apply. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01A for normal diagnostics.
5. Remove the engine and replace the engine short block. Refer to WSM, Section 303-01A."
You need to keep pestering your dealership until they address your issue or find another one! Make absolute sure that your complaint is documented on the repair order & you get a copy each time until they fix it. Dealerships get fully compensated by Ford for this TSB, half the time our dealer doesn't even do the diagnostic procedure, they just install the updated block. Even if a customer is in the quick lane for regular maintenance without any complaints but the coolant is low, they will recommend doing the TSB.
@@raincitywrench117 Thank You for your answer!
Are the 2020 fusions with the 1.5 fairly reliable? I heard early on some had coolant intrusion issue but I would think they updated things to resolve that for 2020 fusions? If u happen to know anything on this please reply we’re looking at a 2020 to buy
Yea, I think so. It will have the updated short block. If it has the 6F35 transmission, I recommend maintaining the transmission fluid periodically also. Mercon LV gets real dark fairly quick. I like to drain and fill the transmission fluid about every 6th oil change on the wife's escape. Super easy to do. After draining the engine oil and replacing the oil filter I slide the drain bucket under the transaxle and completely drain it also. The drain is real obvious, it's an 11mm plug that protrudes down about 1/2. It takes 4.5qt mercon LV to fill. Transmission does not have a dipstick but you will not need to check it. Have serviced about 30 of these units.
@@raincitywrench117 is the updated block design post 6/2019 ? And after transaxle refill is there a level plug to pull to indicate full like you’d check a rear differential ? Only reason I ask is that I’m contemplating purchasing a used escape but the majority available only have the 1.5 Turbo. This block design issue is a real turn off, lol
@@bibbhccbibbhcc2493 Yes it is or at least that what Ford says anyways.
It probably has a 6F35 transmission, the level plug is located on the driver side next to the cv axle. Put pan underneath, pull the allen head plug, fill fluid through rubber vent hose next to lower air filter housing until fluid comes out level plug hole & then start it up. With vehicle running, fill fluid until mercon lv dribbles out hole. Reinstall plug and you ae done!
@@raincitywrench117 Thank you
I need help or anyone who has did engine swap on 2014 ford fusion 1.5 turbo quick question iam going to be changing out the engine with a used engine same engine i took out going back in with same engine now when i complete the install will the engine run or will i need to reprogram ecm or the pats keys
If you were replacing one of the modules or keys then yes, you would need to program but if you are just swapping an engine that is the same you shouldn't have an issue. Sometimes the misfire profile monitor need to be relearned but I would cross that bridge later if need be.
Thanks rain city wrench thats wonderful
@@raincitywrench117 i have another question i need your help i was getting ready to do an engine swap on 2014 ford fusion 1.5 ecoboost turbo se only things i disconnected was the neg and postive battery cables i took the battery out and unplug the top harness of the ecm then i remembered that i have to let the fuel pressure out of the lines before i disconnect the fuel lines but in order to do that i have to pull the fuel pump fuse and let the car run till it dies so i hook the battery back up and put the top ecm connector back in the ecm now here is the problem i went to start the car now it wont say nothing all the dash lights work everything works radio etc but the car wont crank or say nothing what did i do i only took the battery out and disconnect the top ecm connector what do i have to do to make this car crank again it was cranking before i disconnect the battery and top ecm connnector
@@coreysolomon6814 You may have to get a pocket scanner and see if it has any codes. PATS antitheft codes will make it not crank. See if the check engine light does a bulb check when you turn on the key. I would double check the pcm connectors, make sure none of the pins are bent and the connectors fully seat. I like to push on the connector while moving the lever at the same time when seating. If all looks good then check all your fuses under hood and inside the car with a test light. Turn the key to run and touch each fuse on both sides while making sure there is power on both sides. Your owners manual will show fuse locations.
@@raincitywrench117 ok i will get back to you
Hello. You didn't install the valve lifters. 😉
I like the way you work. Very clean.
Makes them go faster!
Did ford have a recall for this?
Service bulletin only. No recall. It should have been recalled though.
@@raincitywrench117 does it include focus 2016 sedan 1.5 ecoboost 4cylinder
Wish ford would include my 14 Escape in the recall. doesn't qualify by the vin number. Was told it's $8500 otherwise.
Did Ford issue a recall for this specific problem? I have a 2016 Fusion with the 1.5L Ecoboost and am wondering if/when they're going to make this right.
@@chriscollier7903 The dealer told my wife it was a quiet recall. I forget the recall number. There's a number of videos about it.
Which is the part number of this short block?
DS7Z-6009-G Here is the full parts list:static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174400-0001.pdf
So the problem is in the bottom end?
Yep. The new block coolant transfer passage has been redesigned. The cylinder head is reused.
@@raincitywrench117 thanks for the reply, I wasn't sure about the cylinder head.
Great video what do you charge for something like this?
That I can't say as this was warranty job but labor time in the TSB is 20 hours. Our dealer is $189hr so would put the labor around $3800 plus parts.
Can the engine be lifted from the top instead of dropped down?
I don't see why not. I think there is plenty of room. If you have an escape, the transfer case has to be slid most of the way out or removed to get at one of the bellhousing bolts. Other than that it's pretty much like any other engine.
@@raincitywrench117 it’s a 15 fusion
@@hidretrofitkit Won't have to worry about transfer case then. The hardest part will be getting the starter & flex plate nuts out cause it's pretty tight in there but other than that it should be straight forward & will be able to lift it out the top. I would start by removing the hood. Also, place a floor jack under the transmission to support it when removing the engine.
@@raincitywrench117 i appreciate it so much. I have never swapped an engine before. Bought the car with just the “blown head gasket” just to find out it’s a short block defect.
@@raincitywrench117 I need your help!!! My mechanic ( father in law) missed the lobe positions of the camshafts and now we can’t install it
Anyone have full video for timing help
This one may help if you don't already have yours fixed: ua-cam.com/video/WbvpS_NS__Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RainCityWrench
cant believe it only took you 35 mins to do this job.. ;0)