FORD To Fix ECOBOOST Engines!
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Ford may just fix the 1.0 Fiesta, Focus, Ecosport, Ecoboost engines after all?
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Ford should have kept the good old 1.6 zetec black top, great engine.
My partner bought a 2016 1.0 eco boost in 2020. In March this year, after regular services and doing just under 60000 miles, the brakes failed and engine seized due to the faulty wet belt. Luckily we didn’t cause a serious accident! Cost almost £4000 for a new engine! Ford didn’t want to know because it was older than 5 years! Will be using this video and information to chase them up for some compensation hopefully!
Secret to those engines is the correct oil. I had one until last year, 2013 had done 112k. A few months before I go rid of it, I took the sump off. No sign of belt damage at all, had always used the correct castrol oil
And.. the correct oil is?
@@GeordiLaForgery castrol 5w20 for the eco boom engine
@@derekfleming3095 ecoboom hahaha that's brilliant 😅
Yea same here my 2015 1.0 has Done 100 thousand miles used correct oil my oil pick up is also clean !!
I use comma 5 20 ecoboost oil.Just get the spec perfect.Its not about brand in my view with any vehicle.Garages in general never have specific oils all they have are 3 barrels of different oil (not with complete target)
My wife had an 13 plate fiesta ecoboom about 7 years ago, It would be fine with new spark plugs, as soon as it warmed up no engine compression. Took it to a local independent garage, and he said.. it that’s an ecoboom Google it and take it to Ford, and they said they wouldn’t fix it.
So I let my wife use my 11 plate focus 1.6 cdti which just had the cambelt and a full service, and that broke down just round the corner from her work at QEUH in Glasgow.
My good friend the owner of the said local independent garage (HBR Dumbarton) came and got it, then took the two of them over to Linwood where I got my Honda 😅
My son bought a brand new Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0 Red Edition 140bhp in 2015. It’s been serviced regularly with the correct oil and no issues. He has just had the wet belts replaced at 65,000 miles. They were still in good condition.
I got rid of my 2017 ford focus in May 24. I was driving home when I came off at a junction to find that my brakes had completely failed. I had my daughter in the car at the time. Fortunately I was approaching the roundabout with a slight uphill gradient that helped slow me down. I was told that I needed a new engine. This could have turned out to be so much worse had I not been going slightly uphill at the time. Very dangerous wet belt design.
Could you explain how brakes failing led to requiring a new engine?
@@Imra99928 Perhaps some part of the engine is powering the abs pump but that’s a total guess
Edit 2:00 he explains that in the video
@@Imra99928because the wet belt broke apart and clogged the pump. The major issue I had (apart from the brakes failing) is that I was paying for my car to have an annual service in which the correct oil and maintenance of the car should have been carried out by the garage.
Add to the fact the car was a manual transmission with only 51,000 miles on the clock
Terrifying. Glad you weren't hurt!
I’ve a 2013 eco boost and changed the belt last year with 40,000. Being 10 years old got the belt changed. The mechanic said the belt was in relatively good condition. Maybe the fact I’ve changed the oil yearly myself and only used the correct oil.
It’s good that ford are stepping up but the servicing caveat gets them out of a hole with the vast number of cars that fall within the wet belt nonsense.
Who after the warranty gets their car serviced every year by ford or a ford recognised mechanic. Very few. Like me many will be doing themselves or getting a local guy to do it. It’s a get out for ford if your engine blows despite keeping up servicing by other means. Don’t think this will help many out tbh.
Like the channel btw. 👍
It doesn’t have to be serviced by ford, can be serviced at any garage and still be able to claim
@@derekfleming3095
Yes I understand what you say Derek. But there will be numerous owners who won’t have used garages and serviced regularly after the warranties expire. Especially up to 10 years.
I’ve never had mine serviced by a garage apart from the cambelt replacement. I’ve managed to do all my own subsequent oil changes, along with coolant,brake oil and brakes. It’s never failed an MoT. Like many others or get neighbours or good local mechanics to see to the same stuff. But not at regular service intervals.
I would only take mine to a local garage or ford at a push if ever the engine management light were to come on, which would be above my pay grade.
There will be plenty that look after their cars this way.
It is good news from Ford, just saying there are many owners who will not fit into this category or provision if their engine fails.
I hope you can see what I was getting at. The criteria is very favourable to Ford.
@@tonyorourke5066 yes, but you have to see it from fords point of view, they have a recommended service schedule and they’re saying regardless of where you got it done, you can claim, that’s pretty fair in my view. I also do all the work on my cars, but always keep receipts for everything and record date of mileage. As for your engine management light comment, get yourself a decent reader, you could do it all yourself. I got one for £108
This was the clearest case of built in obsolescence in history
It’s just that their prototype sign-off is so bad that they misjudged mean time between failure by 100k miles.
Look around, there are currently many other examples from recognised names, not just ford who messed up
The lesson to be learned is buy Japanese - but not Nissan, as they’re basically Renault now
Not only has ford had problems with that they also have a problem with their high pressure fuel pumps which are triggered by a rounded triangle on the cam shaft which causes the car to be starved for gas.
It effects fird transits as well
Ford Focus. 2015. 1.0 litre Ecoboost. 56k. Belt failed on the A9 while my wife was driving it with the kids in the back. Luckily it was at a turn off. I bought the car from Arnold Clark in 2019. Honestly? Wasnt a bad car until now. Set up a case with Ford, sent them every service I'd had, and previous owners stuff, but there are 2 years missing in 2016 and 2017. Not sure what they'll do. I expect them to wriggle out of it. Thing is, I've wrote if off in my head anyway, as I don't trust them. I'm amazed no ones been fatally killed because of it. I'm also amazed they're allowed to sell them. I've had to buy a Toyota in the meantime.
Dave…I have the same issue…bought mine second hand with some service missing…very interested to know how you get on.Cheers and good luck
The later 1.8 tdci engines have a wet timing belt,has the same issues as the eco boom belts.
My 2016 fiesta 1.o ecoboost just died this week. It's booked in with Ford for an inspection, they said I have to pay for it and the costs of getting the car to them 😢 70k on the clock and always serviced
Ford are great to drive but i would not have one for free after the ECOBOOM! engines came in, good channel and new sub 👍
A reliability record envied only by JLR.
😂
I’m on my sixth ecoboost five of them ford focus my last one I part ex for 2022 puma absolutely love it my 14 plate black focus I sold it with 188k on it and it never missed a beat the only thing that has gone wrong on any of them was a belt tensioner on the air con I serviced them with the main dealership might be more expensive but up until now I’ve had trouble free motoring my daughters also have ecoboost fiestas and puma’s and again had no issues 🤷♂️
Yea I have had eco boost engines for the last 10 years not a single issue with them. After watching these videos you feel like they all blow up by 40000 miles lol . My 2015 has done 100000 miles.
I've got a 2014 Ecoboost
● 1st engine blew at 46,000 due to faulty degas hose - missed recall
● 2nd engine is 2019 model from Cologne engine plant - sump and oil feed lines blocked at 34,000. The Turbo also blew due to oil feed lines blocked so had to but new Oil Pump, Turbo + Oil Feed Pipes/Inlets... cannot afford to strip engine for wet belt replacement. Engine still working... not sure how long. Been quoted £2500 for engine rebuild or £5000 new engine 😂
It makes you wonder just how thick the designers of these Ecoboost engines are.
If you subject any flexible belt to contamination of emgine oil you can be certain
that it will degrade and fail.
Yet now that the penny has dropped, i am amazed they are still leaving another belt
in there to do the same.
I can see more claims as the post 2019 engines start to fail, will Ford fix them for
free, i doubt it.
Thye even repeated the design decision when they launched the 2.0 EcoBlue diesel, there's loads of Transit vans with knackered engines for the same reason as was outlined in the video.
I'm starting to think they did it by purpose. I just want to buy an old reliable car but the ULEZ and road tax makes it impossible.
@@FatHead1979 Other brands are not imune either, Toyota has had to issue a recall due to debri
causing engine failures, the same as Kia / Hyundai.
A few years ago i had a Mazda 6 estate diesel, and it required a new engine under warranty due to
oil starvation, another bad design.
Whenever i see fancy words like Ecoboost or Skyactiv i just know that a failure is not far away.
I suspect engineers are pushed to make designs that save money in some way may be part of the problem.
We have seen penny pinching by manufacturers in different areas over the years that caused issues .
I remember reading an article years ago how the big wigs at Mercedes asked engineers to build an expensive part to a certain price rather than a standard , and back in those days many people said Mercedes cars definitely where not the quality of early models .
Perhaps that has changed in later years at the company , but no doubt that sort of bean counter mentality finds its way into most manufacturers in these tuff times.
If you look at some old car engines , some are built like tanks with parts built to be very heavy duty way exceeding what the average consumer will need it to be , in later editions of the engines you find big heavy solid conrods for example are trimmed down to a point where they are strong enough, no longer indestructible , but still last long enough to be serviceable while having less material in each conrod , may be 10 or 20 grams per conrod removed which may only be a 5 cent saving per conrod , which sounds like peanuts , but if you factor in one V8 engine has 8 conrods , that’s a saving of 40cents an engine, but if they sell a million cars and trucks with that engine , suddenly it’s serious money in the bank.
And if they cut costs in 5 other areas , it’s now millions of dollars saved on production.
This guy's channel is brill👍👏
The amount of waste generated with all these failed engines, what possessed ford to do this. Not very eco-nomical ..
1.2 purtech Peugeot group engine is exactly the same, i wouldn't touch either with a ten foot pole
I believe most major lubricant companies will no longer supply or support any oil for these Puretech units as they are concerned about being dragged into future litigation cases. A local mechanic told me that he’s seen some of the Puretch units fails at less than 20K. They are also used in Vauxhall cars now like the Corsa as they are part of the PSA group.
@@colingraham9281 Yes spot on, I bet Total oil are not happy as their in bed with the PSA group. I've also known 1.5 ecoboom fords to fail around 25 30 thou also. It's not good enough
Pure tech are actually worse, as they also suffer from oil burning due to ring wear
Same here, nothing but horror stories about them.
Good vlog, I use Westway oils specifically for the Ecoboost engine, kind regards to you and everyone out there, Mark from Billericay 👍😀🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thank you so much for making me aware of the issues with this engine, I was just about to purchase an ST Line model. Do I have any other engine options, or should I just forget about owning this car. Thanks in advance
Does anyone know when the improved 1.0 litre Eco boost engines were introduced by Ford? I have a friend with a 2014 Focus which has the ecoboost engine - it has 90k on the clock and is running well, but being a 2014 (Mk 3) is it at risk from the "wet belt" problem?
Nice. So are they saying the belt only degrades if you use the wrong type of oil, or are the designers just incompetent?
I’m currently sitting with a Ford ecoboost, and the same problem has happened to me, I have rang Ford multiple times and they won’t help me, I have 42,000 miles on my car, it’s been off road now for 2months as the engines are dear to buy
The 2019 date isn’t true. I’ve seen 2022 fiestas with the wet belt system. You can tell because the turbo is at the back of the engine on the chain driven engine.
When will ford send out the recall or where can I get more info on this matter. I have a 2012 f150 ecoboost with an engine failure in January 2024. I've been wanting to fix it but just don't have the funds to do so at the moment. This would greatly help.
Wow a manufacturer standing over an engine issue they knew about, imagine that??
Make sure whoever services your car uses the correct spec oil and doesnt just put standard oil in
Amsoil is the best
We’ve got the Vauxhall combo with the same engine and it went wrong luckily just stopped they came picked it up and with a bit of hassle they finally fixed it but had it for 2 months 👎🏻😡🤬🤬🤬ours is 2019 24500 on it when it went wrong
I took my Ford fiesta into a Ford dealership for a cambelt replacement they charged me 1250 after they fitted it the engine started knocking, they told me the engine needs replacing at a cost of 6855.00 what can I do
Ford have been foolish in making it too easy to RESET the Oil Service indicator.
Also, the exact recommended oil and quality filter needs to be fitted at the recommended interval. Preferably even earlier than recommended.
My daughter got golf tsi 1.0 wet belt should we worry ? It’s already done turbo fixed under warranty now out of Vw 65k 68 plate
Don't think the One litre golf has a wet belt, thought they were chain driven?
Not a wet belt.
Wet belt for the oil pump in these engines I believe
Can you look in to 2.2 ford transit custom engines, mine died 2 weeks ago only done 59k miles , serviced every year, max be tween service was 9k miles but on average about 5k miles, had it from new, bought 2016 , there were no signs before it happened and no lights on dashboard but started running on 3 cylinders was on a motorway taking the exit when this happened and a little bit of oil pushing out of out filler cap, loss of power. Absolutely livid and disappointed with Ford 🤬
Shit just had mine done in feb a cost of £1400 66 plate done 21k nice thing 100 bhp had it 3 years with no problems (as yet😊)
Ford powershift automatic now theres a money pit
Fixed or repaired daily.
Found on roadside dead
Forgotten on race day........
Such a brilliant idea, who would have envisaged the issues a cambelt running in oil would have caused. Shame it takes an American class action to get anything done.
Now change the oil pump drive to a chain and you got the best engine about
The oil pump belt carries no where near the drive belt/chain LOAD and it may be for that the reason why they don't change it.
Time will tell......
I do love your channel but I do think you are spending doom and gloom over the ecoboost engine I have a friend who works for one of largest Ford dealers in England and he says they have absolutely no problems with the new chain driven engine or the the oil pump belt . Yes he has seen lots of wet belts break but these were down to missed services and the wrong oil being used
I've heard same and totally agree with you about this video
EcoBurst
worst engien.. my ford focus blow up the engien 3 times before 100.000 km.. luck for me within the waranti so Ford had to pay
Designed to be shit ford never had engine problems with cvh,pinto,1st gen iron block zetec,cross flow push rod and the 2.0 zetec/ duratec turbo
I own a Mustang Ecoboost among other sports cars and it gave me nothing but headaches. Possible head gasket blown, turbo under boost , carbon build up on intake valves etc etc, it's only done 96k km not miles. Terrible cars my first and last Ford
I had a 2019 1.0 focus...... for a month. Wasn't the engine that got it sent back, the gearbox needed replaced. Overall ford quality is falling sadly
Was it the auto box, or manual?
@@robcundall2602 Manual. Wouldn't engage 2nd. Suspect the syncro gone
These engines were built to fail... ford would have hoped they had fallen into the 5th owners hands before failing.. no matter how shit fords are, people buy them up like greggs pasties.. they're great for the first owners and then completely shit their pants later down the line.. planned obsolescence
Those oil wet belts are giving brazilians headaches too... Ford, GM all shit
1.2 puretech PSA e 1.0 ecoboost Ford nem dado!!
Dumb, stupid design. Absolute madness.
Can I please have this perfect woman ❤
Or you could have simply purchased a Tesla.
Why would anyone buy one of those 😂😂😂😂
What's the resale value of your EV, little fella? BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Battery car 😂
@@KarlHamiltonpeople with shares in Tesla
It's bullshit ! They replace the belt with a timing chain but the engine oil pump is still driven by a smaller separate RUBBER drive belt therefore will still fail eventually !
But ICE cars are perfection! finely tuned over a hundred years - not like those crappy EVs. Hypocrite