I have a 1970 romy g and absolutely love. Modernized the hell out of it. Now it’s back traditional. Waiting for my POSP 4x to come in for the complete traditional look
POSPs are awesome, got a Saiga .308 that is definitely getting a POSP on it when I get around to it, want it fully converted before i mess with accessories.
While prices have gotten insane lately, i have always thought the wasrs were the standard akm to grab as long as you check for canting on the rear and front sight bases , love every one of them i have owned over the years, these will be sorely missed whenever imports get cut off or Romarm stops production.
An AK collection should always have a good ol' WASR in it IMO, who knows when they'll stop sending them, sucks because until we can get some solid AK manufacturers in the states the WASR is the cheapest "proven" rifle you can get.
@Slugr126 yes, canted sights can be fixed via several methods, any standard gunsmith should be able to do a cant fix. Take a piece of string and hold one end on the sight post and the other to the rear sight notch, if there is extreme canting it will be pretty easy to see
I personally have had an issue with a shepherds hook bending out of place enough to let the trigger pin on my FEG AMD walk out on me while shooting. It's not going to usually fail but a plate is a way stronger replacement IMO. Also, it's easier to take out and replace than the hook if you like deep cleaning your rifles, which I like to do. Should've said that too or worded it differently instead but I was just saying stuff off the top of my head, my bad.
The only issue I’ve ever had was sometimes it’s a pain in the ass getting it back in the right spot. The plate is 5 bucks and gives you peace of mind and is easy to put back
Since making this I've actually learned about those early AKM cast gas blocks and definitely more comparable than a EG gas block. Thanks for pointing that out.
Thanks for the info/video. I just bought an new WASR Under folder ,So far so good. I have other AKs and have had WASRs and SARs over the years. They seem ok.
I was looking at getting a V2 wasr10 for a second wasr for my collection, and add Bulgarian 74 surplus wood but then again I am getting an AK-74 now, since I have a wasr10 that I bought new in 2019 off Atlantic firearms, I have a polish 5.56 AK, now I have been looking at getting a Bulgarian 74 parts kit and building an AK-74 I gotta have all calibers of AKs.
If you look around you can find them with the bayonet lug, at least you could a few years ago. Some have the slant brake tack welded on and some don't. I like the furniture you have on yours, where did you get the charging handle cover ?
I used to own an original converted Wasr-10 rifle. It was definitely made with mismatched parts, and had canted sights. I gave it away to a friend and that was a major mistake. I have a Tula Arms Kit build now and that's a solid rifle but I miss my WASR-10. Also, Two River Arms in OKC will fix any flaws the WASR may have. They call it the WASR improvement program.
Thanks for doing this review and for sharing your rifle with us. The AK or AKM is solid platform. I currently own a Century Arms VSKA which I am very happy with. I had a choice to buy the VSKA or a gen 2 WASR 10. I wanted to go with the WASR 10, but the WASR 10 looked very beat up, it had rust on it and pitting on the metal like you described in your video, so I went with the VSKA instead.
I have the V2 Black Widow. No rust, but parkerized and un-glamourous finish. Who cares. As I say about the WASR10, "Ugly as sin, tough as nails." No wobble in any mags I put it (American, Korean, Siberian, Bulgarian). No issues. I think my ZPAP m70 may just be a better firearm overall, but the Romanian WASR10 will not fail you.
@@christopherrobin361 I understand where you're coming from, but I'm a gun collector so I like for all of my firearms to be in pristine condition. You know what's better than a WASR 10 with rust? A WASR 10 with no rust.
@@NovaPrime77 Lol, true. But since I work over time a bit and hit the gym and train in MMA a couple of times a week, I get the itch to do to the range at times. I've only owned two firearms I maintained but never fired, and so they were good for trades. Have you checked out the SAM7? People say at has a good finish but the Bulgarian stuff is very pricey. I went with Zastava and if you are a collector, it's better than the WASR10s finish. Both Serbian AKs felt like they had just produced them right out of the box.
Just picked up a 2011 model about a month ago. Has MagPul Zhukov Furnitureand Hogue grip. But I just ordered the blonde Romanian upper handguard, bayonet, and Bakelite grip to give it that Russo-Ukranian War look.
I like my WASR more. Not a fan of the button to remove the dust cover on the M70 (had to send mine in for repair because it stuck). I owned one of each and bought a second WASR. I would recommend an ALG trigger and perhaps new furniture for it.
The M70 is a good deal heavier. They have longer gas tubes, heavier trunions etc. If you get one with the grenade launcher cut off then the gas block is heavy too. The thickness of the receiver is 1.5 mm instead of 1 mm and they have the big front trunion. I would go AKM pattern for parts compatibly. East German, Hungarian, Romanian, Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, Egyptian Maadi (Steyr) will all be pretty close to the same parts.
awesome video on the V2 . I bought mine in 2020 and mine doesn't have the romanian cugir triangle with the arrow proof mark . it just says A1-serial number-20 ROA. does anyone kno why my rifle doesn't have the romanian proof mark stamp like his rifle does. thanks in advance.
I got mine in 2020 also and it actually has the A1/ROA trunnion markings, you can see at around 1:26, that's not the Cugir Arsenal triangle mark it's the A1. I believe all WASR V2s have this same marking style.
@@papakalashnikova2639 I love that u have the ak74 muzzle brake on that wasr . where did you find one that is 14.1 left hand thread? all the ones that I can find on the internet are 24mm right hand threads. thanks in advance.
I live in a really humid area so it being out in the open in the backroom made it get some surface rust here and there. Not uncommon in hot and humid areas with these crap parkerized finishes.
@@euko6876 Pretty common for people to rattle can WASRs with some high temp engine enamel or similar. Other than that, keeping it with a coat of grease and or in a gun sock will help tons with surface rust if you don't have a safe/ cabinet to put your guns in.
Hahahah I like the black furniture it comes with. I'll get better tacticool furniture when I can afford zenitco but I bought an all black WASR 10 online bc it looked cooler than another one with wood furniture and it was priced pretty much the same. With that said I'm looking at a WASR 10/63 for 700 on that same website but the lever to hold the gas tube looks perpendicular up and down and I've not seen that on other AK's. I just hope it was only pushed down too far and not loose so much that it looks like that.
Just so everyone knows parkerized finishes need to be oiled to repel rust they are pretty much a oil rag over the metal the OIL keeps the rust away not the finish itself
@@vicerichter1163 New! You just got to know where to look. I got my smith and season sport 2 for everything for 600. It's starting at 800 and going up for them now. Turner's has them for almost 1k with the scope.
hah it's not hard at all, it's more of a style choice, the WASR-10 originally came in with a single stack 10rd magazine and there was no need for dimples since it wouldn't even interact with the skinny magazine anyways. You CAN dimple your WASR with a couple jigs and a press if you really wanted too though.
@@aLoanWolf Ive seen a few DIY dimple jobs on WASRs and the few people I've seen didnt seem to have issues with their rifles. Could possibly cause some weakness but nothing that could cause a real difference, most of the stress on the receiver is at the front where the trunnion is riveted and I think the magwell is far enough back for that to not be a real issue. Then again this is just my believe on it, I could be wrong.
WASR was made originally from a single stack 10 round receiver. They milled them out and put in spacer plates instead of dimples to make them fit dual stack mags. If you look inside there is a little welded rail on each side of the mag.....it's not a problem. The dimple is just a stamping that took out the welding steps on the spacer plates..... I wouldn't try and dimple these receivers just for cosmetic reasons. If I wanted dimples I would have the gun rebuilt on a new receiver....which is not worth it.
Ive had 4 of these never had a issue but once it was a shitty wore out mag was the problem and i threw that bitch rite into the garbage i still cant believe how much they cost now the first one i bought 20 or 21 years ago and i paid $299 brand new in box extra mags cleaning kit and bayonet came with it the last one i bought was about 5 years ago and i paid $600 for it and its worth every dollar
Very nice WASR. Have the same one and it hasn't malfunctioned a single time.
I have the sar-1 had it for 15 years and absolutely love it. Use it for hunting every year.
I have a 1970 romy g and absolutely love. Modernized the hell out of it. Now it’s back traditional. Waiting for my POSP 4x to come in for the complete traditional look
POSPs are awesome, got a Saiga .308 that is definitely getting a POSP on it when I get around to it, want it fully converted before i mess with accessories.
While prices have gotten insane lately, i have always thought the wasrs were the standard akm to grab as long as you check for canting on the rear and front sight bases , love every one of them i have owned over the years, these will be sorely missed whenever imports get cut off or Romarm stops production.
An AK collection should always have a good ol' WASR in it IMO, who knows when they'll stop sending them, sucks because until we can get some solid AK manufacturers in the states the WASR is the cheapest "proven" rifle you can get.
@Slugr126 yes, canted sights can be fixed via several methods, any standard gunsmith should be able to do a cant fix. Take a piece of string and hold one end on the sight post and the other to the rear sight notch, if there is extreme canting it will be pretty easy to see
Mighty WASR strikes again;)
Indeed, it does.
20 years of shooting the AK rifle with tens of thousands of rounds fired and probably 15 different variants I have never had a shepherd's hook fail me
I personally have had an issue with a shepherds hook bending out of place enough to let the trigger pin on my FEG AMD walk out on me while shooting. It's not going to usually fail but a plate is a way stronger replacement IMO. Also, it's easier to take out and replace than the hook if you like deep cleaning your rifles, which I like to do. Should've said that too or worded it differently instead but I was just saying stuff off the top of my head, my bad.
The only issue I’ve ever had was sometimes it’s a pain in the ass getting it back in the right spot. The plate is 5 bucks and gives you peace of mind and is easy to put back
The plates the way to go
@@madmartigan8305 Its all in your head. Sales tactics you fall for
@@KB-kw8ni lol
No based on East German gas block. Loosely based on Soviet Gen 1 cast gas block.
Since making this I've actually learned about those early AKM cast gas blocks and definitely more comparable than a EG gas block. Thanks for pointing that out.
@@papakalashnikova2639 its a very cool feature that Romania has finally shifted to. Quite surprising actually.
Great info 👍🏻
What type of muzzle device is on there? I assume that it originally came with a slant brake or a muzzle nut.
The v2 comes with a standard slant brake. The muzzle device is a Strela Wolf Fang AK74 style brake with a 14x1LH adapter.
Got it. Thanks for the reply.
One of the best AK that I ever had they hard to get now
Thanks for the info/video. I just bought an new WASR Under folder ,So far so good. I have other AKs and have had WASRs and SARs over the years. They seem ok.
I was looking at getting a V2 wasr10 for a second wasr for my collection, and add Bulgarian 74 surplus wood but then again I am getting an AK-74 now, since I have a wasr10 that I bought new in 2019 off Atlantic firearms, I have a polish 5.56 AK, now I have been looking at getting a Bulgarian 74 parts kit and building an AK-74 I gotta have all calibers of AKs.
If you look around you can find them with the bayonet lug, at least you could a few years ago. Some have the slant brake tack welded on and some don't. I like the furniture you have on yours, where did you get the charging handle cover ?
Does adding imported Romanian furniture take it out of compliance with 922R?
Great channel name, subbed.
They have rpk reinforcements spot welded in lieu of dimples.
Correct, didnt get to mention this in the vid thanks for pointing this out. Glad you liked the vid.
I used to own an original converted Wasr-10 rifle. It was definitely made with mismatched parts, and had canted sights. I gave it away to a friend and that was a major mistake. I have a Tula Arms Kit build now and that's a solid rifle but I miss my WASR-10. Also, Two River Arms in OKC will fix any flaws the WASR may have. They call it the WASR improvement program.
I picked up a wasr10 today. Came with magpul junk. I have that exact furniture that I’m going to put on it.
Haha sweet, not a big fan of polymer myself, there are way nicer things to put on an AK than magpul anyways.
Thanks for doing this review and for sharing your rifle with us. The AK or AKM is solid platform. I currently own a Century Arms VSKA which I am very happy with. I had a choice to buy the VSKA or a gen 2 WASR 10. I wanted to go with the WASR 10, but the WASR 10 looked very beat up, it had rust on it and pitting on the metal like you described in your video, so I went with the VSKA instead.
I have the V2 Black Widow. No rust, but parkerized and un-glamourous finish. Who cares. As I say about the WASR10, "Ugly as sin, tough as nails." No wobble in any mags I put it (American, Korean, Siberian, Bulgarian). No issues. I think my ZPAP m70 may just be a better firearm overall, but the Romanian WASR10 will not fail you.
@@christopherrobin361 I understand where you're coming from, but I'm a gun collector so I like for all of my firearms to be in pristine condition. You know what's better than a WASR 10 with rust? A WASR 10 with no rust.
@@NovaPrime77 Lol, true. But since I work over time a bit and hit the gym and train in MMA a couple of times a week, I get the itch to do to the range at times. I've only owned two firearms I maintained but never fired, and so they were good for trades. Have you checked out the SAM7? People say at has a good finish but the Bulgarian stuff is very pricey. I went with Zastava and if you are a collector, it's better than the WASR10s finish. Both Serbian AKs felt like they had just produced them right out of the box.
@@NovaPrime77 How dare you call yourself a collector and buy a VSKA over a WASR10? You're an uneducated rookie man
Just seen a wasr rh10 Underfolder. it was 899 at a lgs.
WASR RH 10 is a nice banger..staight all over..brand new 700$
what muzzle device is that?
Also curious
Love mine, replaced the furniture and it’s good to go.
Just picked up a 2011 model about a month ago. Has MagPul Zhukov Furnitureand Hogue grip. But I just ordered the blonde Romanian upper handguard, bayonet, and Bakelite grip to give it that Russo-Ukranian War look.
How would you compare this to the Zastava M70?
I like my WASR more. Not a fan of the button to remove the dust cover on the M70 (had to send mine in for repair because it stuck). I owned one of each and bought a second WASR. I would recommend an ALG trigger and perhaps new furniture for it.
The M70 is a good deal heavier. They have longer gas tubes, heavier trunions etc. If you get one with the grenade launcher cut off then the gas block is heavy too.
The thickness of the receiver is 1.5 mm instead of 1 mm and they have the big front trunion.
I would go AKM pattern for parts compatibly. East German, Hungarian, Romanian, Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, Egyptian Maadi (Steyr) will all be pretty close to the same parts.
awesome video on the V2 . I bought mine in 2020 and mine doesn't have the romanian cugir triangle with the arrow proof mark . it just says A1-serial number-20 ROA. does anyone kno why my rifle doesn't have the romanian proof mark stamp like his rifle does. thanks in advance.
I got mine in 2020 also and it actually has the A1/ROA trunnion markings, you can see at around 1:26, that's not the Cugir Arsenal triangle mark it's the A1. I believe all WASR V2s have this same marking style.
@@papakalashnikova2639 I love that u have the ak74 muzzle brake on that wasr . where did you find one that is 14.1 left hand thread? all the ones that I can find on the internet are 24mm right hand threads. thanks in advance.
@@nellydog01 That one is a Strela Wolf Fang AK74 muzzle brake with a 14x1LH adapter also from strela.
I'm looking for my first AK on GB. What aftermarket magazine fit the 10/63 made in 66?
A 10/63 should take any standard AK47/ AKM mags, steel mags, polymer, magpul, whatever fits a regular 7.62x39 AK rifle.
How would the front sight being canted cause any type of gas issue?
This was my first ak , 400$ plus 500 rds of 762×39 for 100$
Where'd you get that muzzle brake?
It's a strela wolf fang muzzle brake with a 14x1LH adapter to put an an AKM
@@papakalashnikova2639 nice
You got rust on it only leaving it out for a couple of days!? 😬
I live in a really humid area so it being out in the open in the backroom made it get some surface rust here and there. Not uncommon in hot and humid areas with these crap parkerized finishes.
@@papakalashnikova2639 anyway to prevent or protect that from happening? Over finish or something? Lol
@@euko6876 Pretty common for people to rattle can WASRs with some high temp engine enamel or similar. Other than that, keeping it with a coat of grease and or in a gun sock will help tons with surface rust if you don't have a safe/ cabinet to put your guns in.
@@papakalashnikova2639 Good to know! appreciate the info
Hahahah I like the black furniture it comes with. I'll get better tacticool furniture when I can afford zenitco but I bought an all black WASR 10 online bc it looked cooler than another one with wood furniture and it was priced pretty much the same.
With that said I'm looking at a WASR 10/63 for 700 on that same website but the lever to hold the gas tube looks perpendicular up and down and I've not seen that on other AK's. I just hope it was only pushed down too far and not loose so much that it looks like that.
Just so everyone knows parkerized finishes need to be oiled to repel rust they are pretty much a oil rag over the metal the OIL keeps the rust away not the finish itself
These are Selling in California for 1200
You can find them cheaper online starting for 700-750.
@@letsgetit90 new or used?
@@vicerichter1163 New! You just got to know where to look. I got my smith and season sport 2 for everything for 600. It's starting at 800 and going up for them now. Turner's has them for almost 1k with the scope.
@@letsgetit90 No WASR-10 is 700-750 these days. Best price 2022 online is 800 +.
@@stoegerstewie8351 no, they were 700ish a few month ago on Atlantic Fire arms.
How hard can it be to dimple the damn receivers!!
hah it's not hard at all, it's more of a style choice, the WASR-10 originally came in with a single stack 10rd magazine and there was no need for dimples since it wouldn't even interact with the skinny magazine anyways. You CAN dimple your WASR with a couple jigs and a press if you really wanted too though.
@@papakalashnikova2639 I was told you can’t dimple a WASF because it would weaken the steal by thinning it out too much..
@@aLoanWolf Ive seen a few DIY dimple jobs on WASRs and the few people I've seen didnt seem to have issues with their rifles. Could possibly cause some weakness but nothing that could cause a real difference, most of the stress on the receiver is at the front where the trunnion is riveted and I think the magwell is far enough back for that to not be a real issue. Then again this is just my believe on it, I could be wrong.
WASR was made originally from a single stack 10 round receiver. They milled them out and put in spacer plates instead of dimples to make them fit dual stack mags. If you look inside there is a little welded rail on each side of the mag.....it's not a problem. The dimple is just a stamping that took out the welding steps on the spacer plates.....
I wouldn't try and dimple these receivers just for cosmetic reasons. If I wanted dimples I would have the gun rebuilt on a new receiver....which is not worth it.
I need 10 of those to buy cool
[squats in slav]:
BUY A WASR
Clown, you do realize that we Romanians are Latins, not Slavs, yes?
I bought one Century Arms AK (C39V2). I will never buy another.
Yeah the C39 line was fucking terrible, apparently the VSKAs are "better" but I'd still go for a imported WASR over any century built rifles.
My buddy just bought a VSKA at Dunham's for $1100 lol, they go for $600, he got ripped.
Ku-jeer
ND133
I know of one with a bayonet lug
Ive had 4 of these never had a issue but once it was a shitty wore out mag was the problem and i threw that bitch rite into the garbage i still cant believe how much they cost now the first one i bought 20 or 21 years ago and i paid $299 brand new in box extra mags cleaning kit and bayonet came with it the last one i bought was about 5 years ago and i paid $600 for it and its worth every dollar
WBP is a better value.
Kalashnikova is female. Should be Papa Kalashnikov.