Hamish Brayshaw and Schofield have just hammered the journos on this on backchat. Absolutely grubby journalism. They know at any one time that will be 10 to 20 guys unhappy with the coach. Basically anyone not getting a game. These guys are competitive, with big egos and arrogance, fear getting dropped from squad, missing out on big money while teammates get paid more... work hard and think they deserve to get a game every week. Its an unbelievably childish and grubby article. The West then loses all credibility as they deliberately make it sound worse than it is. 3 players including 2 kids not currently getting games currently. So what. I wonder if the club knows of the players and whether it explains why some may not be getting games. ha ha...
@@Rivals96 If the Eagles pick up energy and play competitive footy (and win a couple of games) then he's likely to survive. But if they continue on and get thumped by Dockers then he may be moved on. The fact is that next year is his last year and it also becomes really awkward and disruptive for club if speculation on whether he is coaching or not continues for most of 2025, before he leaves in round 17 say, allowing the club to look aggressively at a new coach. Club may not like the sound of that option.
@@Rivals96 Young players struggle as the year progresses as do older players. We have both in spades. So I think we do need to bring in some youngsters that have played WAFL or missed a bit of footy to bring in a bit of energy. We need players to create frenetic pressure in our forward line. I think that could be catching and may lift the passion and energy levels. Johnston a good selection... as could Culley Rawlinson Hall...Trew needs some games with Culley to reward effort. That's important in a footy club. Experimenting with an all tall forward line is experimentation for the future. May be good long term. But short term its negative as players question why? how can they create pressure in the forward half? Its catching and then no one creates pressure... But clubs planning for the future walk a delicate tight wire trick.
@@BDub2024 yeah hard to say I think throw in hall culley Harvey in soon for sure love to see Hewitt play AFL this year but no idea his play wafl next weekend the midfield just piss weak at the moment gov and Tommy not going to stay at the Eagles forever so we really need some young backman😅 not sure about Harry n bazzo tbh just gotta wait and see
I love simmo so much and what he has given to us so I agree needs to stay the year but I think unless something amazing happens we need a fresh voice next year to have a young coach to lead our club forward
I have never entertained the idea of Simpson being sacked because up until this year I think there is nothing a different coach could have done differently with all our injuries etc. this year though I’ve slowly changed my mind. We were promised prioritising youth and to see hall, Culley and trew performing well in the wafl (more Culley and trew) and to get 1 and 1/4 games between the 3….to see blokes do nothing in the wafl and go straight into the team. To see players in the team underperform week after week and Maric gets dropped…it’s really sending the wrong message to players and supporters that they’re not prioritising youth in a rebuild, they’re not rewarding good performance in the wafl and not dropping poor form in the team even with such a good injury list. Of course that will seep into the playing group as there are no consequences for a bad game, no reward for a good game, no competition to keep your spot…it promotes apathy and that is the word that could sum up the players against hawthorn. Playing such an old team at this stage just seems like a coach who either is stuck with his favourites or trying to win games to keep his job, either way that’s not good for the team. The fact darling hasn’t been dropped once while Jack Williams and Maric who are streaks ahead and are the future of this club really sums it up. I don’t think we are actually better than last year. I think we have about 4 older players and one generational star playing above and beyond and making us look better. Without yeo, barrass, McGovern, waterman and Reid this year the results would look just as bad as they were last year. The worst part is a few of those guys, despite the riches the club keep boasting about, flew themselves at their own expense to get proper treatment from an expert for their injuries because their club kept failing them says it all. We have pumped few games into young players. We have debuted a few, mainly as subs, but I think it’s all show no substance. It looks to me as Simpson has lost the playing group, I have no bad feelings towards simpson, it just feels like things have come to a natural conclusion with this coach and team and it’ll be better for all to just have a fresh start now
Fantastic assessment, not surprised at the grubby journalism employed by the West, most of their AFL specialist reporters are ex Dockers. Blows me that Darling has not been dropped, I think you are right in regards to getting him to 300 though. I feel that the backs are settled n saving us from bigger losses. Mids n Forward is where the change needs to happen. Watch all the Monday Experts come out if we beat Melbourne
Someone on a code footy post on facebook did make a comparison to getting JD to 300, in a similar way to the way Richmond handled Dustin Martin's situation. I don't think we're in a position to engage in such sentimental acts as much as I love and respect everything JD has contributed to this club. It doesn't sit well with me dropping him in that sense, but in terms of what the club needs, he really shouldn't be in the side at present.
I find it bizarre other supporters have not noticed that the skill level of the entire team has dropped over recent years..the seniors have dropped off faster than ever.. even the rookies are getting worse instead of better.. literally zero improvement by any player in years and no one connects it to simmo coaching poorly. Suns sacked their coach last year for way less now look at them. Why are people not even willing to try change?
You just said exactly what I have been saying, the WC is not bad. Its good. There are a few who shouldnt be selected but that aside… what is the problem? The last two weeks of zero adaptation to the game plan makes it very clear what they problem is. ALL the coaches.
The Eagles need to pick some kids to boost enthusiasm and pressure. Some small forward types applying tackling pressure would help. We've hit the wall. Sides worked us out and guys are no doubt suddenly finding the season very long. At the same time club is experimenting in some areas that are costing us victories. That's a club decision that Simmo must buy into. All this is contributing to a drop off, but it must be turned around with more small forwards and players that like to tackle and apply pressure. Kids always bring excitement too. That must occur.
Can you do a video on the potential compo picks for Rotham and anyone else that is likely to be off the list next season. Simmo eluded to 10 players… this is relevant to our weak draft hand at the moment
Really annoyed me when Simpson mentioned in the press conference that they are giving young players opportunities. Having the likes of Rawlinson, Trew, Johnson and Dewar play 1 or 2 games as a sub then get dropped in not giving them an opportunity! The sides being selected isn’t the age profile of a rebuilding side. the amount of players 27+ is the profile of a side that thinks it’s a contender! We have 3 more players in our selected side this weekend 27+ than Sydney!!
It’s clearly a player attitude problem. If anything Essendon beating Collingwood today is a good indicator for the same strategy that Adam Simpson is trying to deploy. Back in Simmo!
But attitude reflects leadership. Simmo looks defeated half the time during press conferences - like he's given up already. And telling the boys that winning on the road isn't a priority is baffling. I wonder about the captaincy situation too, whether co-captains were a good idea and whether Oz and Duggo are the right men for the job. I don't think Duggan at least is good enough. Personally I'd prefer Barrass as skipper. Constantly one of our best and gives his all every week.
@@sotiriosnovatsis4529 only if you replace them with something better, and that is very much a variable. Sacking the coach has NOT worked out well for many clubs, who had multiple coaches on a seemingly rotating door basis. The Eagles, historically, have rarely moved on coaches without having a very decent replacement already in line. Which brings me to my question which might be a good discussion topic, who our there worth a damn, is gettable? Because I am seeing relatively slim pickings.
Let him stay no later than the end of the year and look at Dean Cox in the meantime. I honestly think he could be the man but I’m not convinced he would want the job at the end of the year let alone mid season. Totally agree with your concerns about our game style and not using the width of the ground. Lastly I’m just bloody over the losses and the disappointment 😢
Change is a part of life and I've heard of Dean Cox being a possibility and it seems a fine option as a hypothetical replacement. Look Malthouse was brilliant and made us the team of the 1990's, Worsfold did a wonderful duty and had us less than a goal from back to back in 05-06. But the torch was passed and I believe the time is now, for Adam Simpson to depart and honestly effective immediately can't make things any worse as it stands.
@@johnconnor7131 Both West Coast and North Melbourne made 3 Grand Finals and won 2 Premierships, yet unlike West Coast who made the finals every year in the 1990's North Melbourne missed out in 90&92. The Eagles also had a far heavier travel burden and the bias of the MCG contract did no favours for the club.
@@user-vz5cq7ey2c your right about the finals so west coast probably deserve the title.would of been good to see them play of in a g.f. and if it wasnt for gary ablett we wouldve seen jacko v carey in a g.f
@@johnconnor7131 Well say you had a points system ranking the 1990's, with 10 pts for a Premiership 8 pts for a Grand Final appearance 5 pts for finals qualification and 2 pts for each home & away victory. West Coast would win 351 to North Melbourne 312.
Also needs some guys to be moved around. More small forward defensive pressure, be it Cole Culley Chesser etc... More experiment on the wings and not have Ledwards and Chesser there. Ledwards tagger or small defence? Ginbey needs a break in defence and to learn a craft there. Hough been there all year, give him a shot up the ground on a wing or through the middle. Jones just half back. Hedwards on best opposition forward. Maric half back experiment. JWilliams and AReid run through defence at WAFL to get experience and to play on opposition forwards. Its also tough to be a forward at reserves team. Hutchy on wing at WAFL. Develop him at WAFL.
Brad wood or Bdub or whatever your disguise is now. One comment your saying play kids small pressure forwards next comment small pressure forwards be it Cole Culley Chesser. What are you on about mate. You’re always all over the place dude it’s so hard to follow 😅
@@Bernfrillo Small pressure forwards being Cole Culley and Chesser. All can be pressure players. Cole is a half back that is small-mid with defensive pressure. Colley is a strong tackling player and mid sized and played as mobile forward last year. Chesser is an inside mid with tackling pressure, but not suited to wing. He is ideal as a pressure forward. It aint difficult. In the team currently there is only Long (injured) Petch (injured) and Rawlinson (not ready) who can play the role. Ryan and Cripps are not small pressure forwards. Eagles need to develop guys that can play the role. Jury is out on Brockman. Get with it.
@@BDub2024 hahaha I know who our players are and what they do mate . Again the contradiction mate. You said bring kids in that are small pressure forwards. You named one (Rawlinson) and then said he’s not ready. What’s difficult is trying to understand what you are talking about. You’re saying Jamie Cripps isn’t a pressure fwd? Cmon mate almost all of his stat averages in this area are up this season. I’m even more confused than before
@@Bernfrillo Rawlinson physically isn't really ready. Certainly we need some energy that he'd provide. But they picked Johnstone this week and have got Brockman in. Certainly if Brockman wasn't playing I'd consider Rawlinson, as they need pace and tackling energy. My view is that Chesser clearly isn't working on the wing and is better as an inside mid. So I'd be exposing him to be small pressure forward and backing him in for the next six weeks and seeing how he goes.
I think we would be stupid to sack Simmo, at the start of the year most said it would be acceptable to win 4 games. We are a 50 point better side than last year so we are progressing. History has shown sacking coaches doesn't work
I'm gonna back Adam Simpson on this one. I reckon its all the media, they love stirring the s**t quite frankly. In my mind there are a lot of ungrateful bastards out there, Adam Simpson was the man that led the way to a premiership in 2018, and then the big drop all the way to wooden spoon in 2023. I'm a Dockers Supporter myself and I have all the respect in the world for the West Coast Eagles for everything the club has achieved, but Jesus Christ man there are a lot of toxic people out there, fans, media and possibly people in the realm of the club. Its what happens when you have an aging list, dropping skillset and a high level of injuries crippling the playing group. And now the club is rebuilding, and they have a good crop of recruits. People need to be patient and chill out.
Most players aren't really going to say what they think, while he's there are they. Because that itself, would be a problem if the thought is divided. Afterall West Coast Eagles aren't the Australian Cricket Team.
please let me disagree my good sir. i think simmo should stay until the end of his contract. the game plan we are playing is a simple contest ball. we are building and this years game plan isn't the high possession but build contest. look at it like a long pre season next year or the year after start the possession game. the 3 players who don't like the selection that should be good. i don't know if its more but if you are not getting picked you should be pissed, they are professional athletes and should think they should be picked. if a player was happy not getting a game then they should be gotten rid of. as for Maric i think with the addition of J Williams we need someone a bit smaller and hutchy fits that bill. Maric is listed as 196cm and Hutchey is 190cm. the other option is Brookman who is 180cm and he is playing for his life in the next 2 weeks. Darling has been really good if you take into inside 50 delivery Darling has been playing well. he takes a lot of heat off Waterman and Allen. also also i think Allen said it best in his press conference when asked if you guys are playing for the coach. Allen said yes but not just the coach but everyone at the club. i think to much gets put into are the players playing for the coach. the players should be playing for each other and that is the coaches job. i never miss a true eagle since you started the channel keep up the good work
Aside from those 4 key players you names who else would slot into a top 4 team not many i would imagine… the list is a problem there is just not enough talent on the list
There are so many things wrong with West Coast atm. Leadership - McGovern is probably our best leader. No one seems to fly the flag as evident today when Gawn was on top of Harley in scuffle and Tim Kelly does a pretend help and just lets Gawn sit on top of him. When Harley is frustrated there's a lack of assertiveness. Get him off, move him up forward, players should get in his ear. There's no way Harley Reid does that for Sydney, Geelong, Hawks of the past where there's more discipline and leadership. Players out of position - At this moment there's no point having a tired looking Yeo and out of sorts Kelly who doesn't chase in the midfield. We have more than competent key forwards and key defenders. Putting Yeo down back and Kelly up forward sorts out forward line and backline. Then we play young blokes on the ball and get some games into them. If we're getting thumped each week then we may as well get midfield game time into the future of this team. A young midfield is gonna struggle from time to time but we're struggling now. At least we are solid down back and up forward. Then there's the ruck. Sign a number one ruck already. Assistant coaches - we've lost some good assistants over the years. Mitchell was here for our last flag. Just look at assistants at clubs like Collingwood, Sydney, Essendon and even St Kilda. The Saints have the likes of Lenny Hayes, Robert Harvey, Corey Enright and Brendan Goddard in there. Just my 10 cents
Ryan// Allen// Brockman Dewar// Waterman// Kelly Chesser// Hall// Cripps ***// Ginbey// Reid Yeo// Gov// Duggan Maric// Barrass// Hough JWilliams// Hutchinson// Culley// Hewett * * * Sign a ruckman * We're gonna get pick 1 or 2 in draft. Sign best available midfielder or trade pick down like we did with Ginby and Hewitt. This team may get thumped but that's what's happening now. This would at least be my proposal for next seasons team. Or if fully fit start it now.
We haven't recruited/traded/drafted well over the past 5 years. Chesser, Ginbey, Long average at best. Hewett, Burgiel and Flynn are injury prone. Brockman hasn't shown much. Then we have young guys like Culley and Maric who aren't getting regular opportunities in favour of underperforming veterans. We have a bevy of kids like Hall, Johnston, Rawlinson, Dewar etc waiting for a proper go. If we're serious about this rebuild, we need to drop some veterans and get some games into our kids. Darling, Gaff, Ryan, Petch, Cripps etc are not the future of the club. These young guys are.
Ill make this short and sweet....... You do not come out of a 3 year horror spell all at once. Its a gradual turn around with some good team efforts followed by some worse ones you can clearly see the beginnings of this happening you just have to wait a bit for the consistency to return. So relax
Personally i was disgusted by the coaching effort last weekend. To push all of our players into the back 50 (which was clearly a coaching directive as it happened multiple times) i thought was one of the dumbest decisions i've seen from a coach given the team strengths and weaknesses. Firstly the likelihood that we were going to give up a free kick or a mark was pretty high even with that overcrowding but if we did happen to get a fast break through reid or yeo or ryan who they had running through the middle who are they kicking to????????? thin fkin air. Secondly what sort of message does that send to players? We cant trust the backline or back anyone in to do their role? Its not good for player mentality or bonding. Honestly absolutely disgraceful coaching and he deserves every ounce of criticism he's getting. I have been on simpsons back for years in my circle of friends, i've seen so many questionable things and i cannot wait till we get rid of him. Possibly the worst coach the eagles have ever had. Don't give me any bs about 2018 either, he inherited a good lineup.
Letting Simpson see out the rest of the season is the dumbest I've heard. Why would anyone wait 4 months before starting to fix something they know is broken right now
The West Australian is a dishrag, and I really do not care for him or the rag he writes for. Whether Simmo stays or goes is irrelevant, who the hell is gettable that's worth consideration?
Hamish Brayshaw and Schofield have just hammered the journos on this on backchat. Absolutely grubby journalism. They know at any one time that will be 10 to 20 guys unhappy with the coach. Basically anyone not getting a game. These guys are competitive, with big egos and arrogance, fear getting dropped from squad, missing out on big money while teammates get paid more... work hard and think they deserve to get a game every week. Its an unbelievably childish and grubby article. The West then loses all credibility as they deliberately make it sound worse than it is. 3 players including 2 kids not currently getting games currently. So what. I wonder if the club knows of the players and whether it explains why some may not be getting games. ha ha...
What you think 🤔 going happen mate!!…
@@Rivals96 If the Eagles pick up energy and play competitive footy (and win a couple of games) then he's likely to survive. But if they continue on and get thumped by Dockers then he may be moved on. The fact is that next year is his last year and it also becomes really awkward and disruptive for club if speculation on whether he is coaching or not continues for most of 2025, before he leaves in round 17 say, allowing the club to look aggressively at a new coach. Club may not like the sound of that option.
@@BDub2024 I don’t see us winning another game tbh 😂we are slow n cooked
@@Rivals96 Young players struggle as the year progresses as do older players. We have both in spades. So I think we do need to bring in some youngsters that have played WAFL or missed a bit of footy to bring in a bit of energy. We need players to create frenetic pressure in our forward line. I think that could be catching and may lift the passion and energy levels. Johnston a good selection... as could Culley Rawlinson Hall...Trew needs some games with Culley to reward effort. That's important in a footy club. Experimenting with an all tall forward line is experimentation for the future. May be good long term. But short term its negative as players question why? how can they create pressure in the forward half? Its catching and then no one creates pressure... But clubs planning for the future walk a delicate tight wire trick.
@@BDub2024 yeah hard to say I think throw in hall culley Harvey in soon for sure love to see Hewitt play AFL this year but no idea his play wafl next weekend the midfield just piss weak at the moment gov and Tommy not going to stay at the Eagles forever so we really need some young backman😅 not sure about Harry n bazzo tbh just gotta wait and see
I love simmo so much and what he has given to us so I agree needs to stay the year but I think unless something amazing happens we need a fresh voice next year to have a young coach to lead our club forward
Enjoying your content so much true eagle.
I hated every second of his press conference, Simpson needs to go asap
Yeah, big wraps on Maric, he should stay in.
I have never entertained the idea of Simpson being sacked because up until this year I think there is nothing a different coach could have done differently with all our injuries etc. this year though I’ve slowly changed my mind. We were promised prioritising youth and to see hall, Culley and trew performing well in the wafl (more Culley and trew) and to get 1 and 1/4 games between the 3….to see blokes do nothing in the wafl and go straight into the team. To see players in the team underperform week after week and Maric gets dropped…it’s really sending the wrong message to players and supporters that they’re not prioritising youth in a rebuild, they’re not rewarding good performance in the wafl and not dropping poor form in the team even with such a good injury list. Of course that will seep into the playing group as there are no consequences for a bad game, no reward for a good game, no competition to keep your spot…it promotes apathy and that is the word that could sum up the players against hawthorn. Playing such an old team at this stage just seems like a coach who either is stuck with his favourites or trying to win games to keep his job, either way that’s not good for the team. The fact darling hasn’t been dropped once while Jack Williams and Maric who are streaks ahead and are the future of this club really sums it up. I don’t think we are actually better than last year. I think we have about 4 older players and one generational star playing above and beyond and making us look better. Without yeo, barrass, McGovern, waterman and Reid this year the results would look just as bad as they were last year. The worst part is a few of those guys, despite the riches the club keep boasting about, flew themselves at their own expense to get proper treatment from an expert for their injuries because their club kept failing them says it all. We have pumped few games into young players. We have debuted a few, mainly as subs, but I think it’s all show no substance. It looks to me as Simpson has lost the playing group, I have no bad feelings towards simpson, it just feels like things have come to a natural conclusion with this coach and team and it’ll be better for all to just have a fresh start now
Fantastic assessment, not surprised at the grubby journalism employed by the West, most of their AFL specialist reporters are ex Dockers.
Blows me that Darling has not been dropped, I think you are right in regards to getting him to 300 though.
I feel that the backs are settled n saving us from bigger losses.
Mids n Forward is where the change needs to happen.
Watch all the Monday Experts come out if we beat Melbourne
Someone on a code footy post on facebook did make a comparison to getting JD to 300, in a similar way to the way Richmond handled Dustin Martin's situation. I don't think we're in a position to engage in such sentimental acts as much as I love and respect everything JD has contributed to this club. It doesn't sit well with me dropping him in that sense, but in terms of what the club needs, he really shouldn't be in the side at present.
Yes was funny how Richmond played the week before dustys 300th when he sat out the game,then didn't show up for his 300th
Injuries from an old squad, poor trades and poor list management. Doesn't give some players a fair crack.
Players acting like their not the problem with the team
Supporters acting like the coach isn't responsible for skill, team effort, game plan and team selection
I find it bizarre other supporters have not noticed that the skill level of the entire team has dropped over recent years..the seniors have dropped off faster than ever.. even the rookies are getting worse instead of better.. literally zero improvement by any player in years and no one connects it to simmo coaching poorly. Suns sacked their coach last year for way less now look at them. Why are people not even willing to try change?
@fire_titan5735 not only that but these injuries answer lack of squad depth also fall on the coach..in fact everything comes down to the head coach.
Glad you mentioned the problem with using mean to describe the age of team lists. The median should be used
If one of the young players is Harley Reid then u wanna get him sacked very quickly before u lose him
Don't fall for it mate. This is media codswallop.
You just said exactly what I have been saying, the WC is not bad. Its good. There are a few who shouldnt be selected but that aside… what is the problem? The last two weeks of zero adaptation to the game plan makes it very clear what they problem is. ALL the coaches.
You think you hate journalists enough, but you don't.
blame the players, not the journalists
Well said mate
The Eagles need to pick some kids to boost enthusiasm and pressure. Some small forward types applying tackling pressure would help. We've hit the wall. Sides worked us out and guys are no doubt suddenly finding the season very long. At the same time club is experimenting in some areas that are costing us victories. That's a club decision that Simmo must buy into. All this is contributing to a drop off, but it must be turned around with more small forwards and players that like to tackle and apply pressure. Kids always bring excitement too. That must occur.
Can you do a video on the potential compo picks for Rotham and anyone else that is likely to be off the list next season. Simmo eluded to 10 players… this is relevant to our weak draft hand at the moment
8 wins in the last 3 years, no coach would survive that in any sport. Pike and the board need to grow a back bone.
Really annoyed me when Simpson mentioned in the press conference that they are giving young players opportunities. Having the likes of Rawlinson, Trew, Johnson and Dewar play 1 or 2 games as a sub then get dropped in not giving them an opportunity! The sides being selected isn’t the age profile of a rebuilding side. the amount of players 27+ is the profile of a side that thinks it’s a contender! We have 3 more players in our selected side this weekend 27+ than Sydney!!
Been thinking a lot in the last few weeks about the tail end of Woosha’s tenure. Yeah.
Have a look at the players’ effort levels during the last several seasons.
Do they look like they’re happy with the coach?
They look like they are smug, plenty of money 💰
It’s clearly a player attitude problem. If anything Essendon beating Collingwood today is a good indicator for the same strategy that Adam Simpson is trying to deploy. Back in Simmo!
Essendon have become a force because they changed their coach. Essendon are an example of why West Coast should sack Simpson.
Esendon played for each other which is a team 👍
But attitude reflects leadership. Simmo looks defeated half the time during press conferences - like he's given up already. And telling the boys that winning on the road isn't a priority is baffling. I wonder about the captaincy situation too, whether co-captains were a good idea and whether Oz and Duggo are the right men for the job. I don't think Duggan at least is good enough. Personally I'd prefer Barrass as skipper. Constantly one of our best and gives his all every week.
@@sotiriosnovatsis4529 only if you replace them with something better, and that is very much a variable. Sacking the coach has NOT worked out well for many clubs, who had multiple coaches on a seemingly rotating door basis. The Eagles, historically, have rarely moved on coaches without having a very decent replacement already in line. Which brings me to my question which might be a good discussion topic, who our there worth a damn, is gettable? Because I am seeing relatively slim pickings.
Let him stay no later than the end of the year and look at Dean Cox in the meantime. I honestly think he could be the man but I’m not convinced he would want the job at the end of the year let alone mid season.
Totally agree with your concerns about our game style and not using the width of the ground.
Lastly I’m just bloody over the losses and the disappointment 😢
I think he knows what is coming, hopefully for his sake its at the end of the year
Adam Simpson just stepped down...
Change is a part of life and I've heard of Dean Cox being a possibility and it seems a fine option as a hypothetical replacement. Look Malthouse was brilliant and made us the team of the 1990's, Worsfold did a wonderful duty and had us less than a goal from back to back in 05-06. But the torch was passed and I believe the time is now, for Adam Simpson to depart and honestly effective immediately can't make things any worse as it stands.
11 years, why does it need to be 15 or whatever. He had his run.
North was the team of the 90s
@@johnconnor7131 Both West Coast and North Melbourne made 3 Grand Finals and won 2 Premierships, yet unlike West Coast who made the finals every year in the 1990's North Melbourne missed out in 90&92. The Eagles also had a far heavier travel burden and the bias of the MCG contract did no favours for the club.
@@user-vz5cq7ey2c your right about the finals so west coast probably deserve the title.would of been good to see them play of in a g.f. and if it wasnt for gary ablett we wouldve seen jacko v carey in a g.f
@@johnconnor7131 Well say you had a points system ranking the 1990's, with 10 pts for a Premiership 8 pts for a Grand Final appearance 5 pts for finals qualification and 2 pts for each home & away victory. West Coast would win 351 to North Melbourne 312.
Also needs some guys to be moved around. More small forward defensive pressure, be it Cole Culley Chesser etc... More experiment on the wings and not have Ledwards and Chesser there. Ledwards tagger or small defence? Ginbey needs a break in defence and to learn a craft there. Hough been there all year, give him a shot up the ground on a wing or through the middle. Jones just half back. Hedwards on best opposition forward. Maric half back experiment. JWilliams and AReid run through defence at WAFL to get experience and to play on opposition forwards. Its also tough to be a forward at reserves team. Hutchy on wing at WAFL. Develop him at WAFL.
Brad wood or Bdub or whatever your disguise is now. One comment your saying play kids small pressure forwards next comment small pressure forwards be it Cole Culley Chesser. What are you on about mate. You’re always all over the place dude it’s so hard to follow 😅
@@Bernfrillo Bernfrillo Wood since you've asked.
@@Bernfrillo Small pressure forwards being Cole Culley and Chesser. All can be pressure players. Cole is a half back that is small-mid with defensive pressure. Colley is a strong tackling player and mid sized and played as mobile forward last year. Chesser is an inside mid with tackling pressure, but not suited to wing. He is ideal as a pressure forward. It aint difficult. In the team currently there is only Long (injured) Petch (injured) and Rawlinson (not ready) who can play the role. Ryan and Cripps are not small pressure forwards. Eagles need to develop guys that can play the role. Jury is out on Brockman. Get with it.
@@BDub2024 hahaha I know who our players are and what they do mate . Again the contradiction mate. You said bring kids in that are small pressure forwards. You named one (Rawlinson) and then said he’s not ready. What’s difficult is trying to understand what you are talking about. You’re saying Jamie Cripps isn’t a pressure fwd? Cmon mate almost all of his stat averages in this area are up this season. I’m even more confused than before
@@Bernfrillo Rawlinson physically isn't really ready. Certainly we need some energy that he'd provide. But they picked Johnstone this week and have got Brockman in. Certainly if Brockman wasn't playing I'd consider Rawlinson, as they need pace and tackling energy. My view is that Chesser clearly isn't working on the wing and is better as an inside mid. So I'd be exposing him to be small pressure forward and backing him in for the next six weeks and seeing how he goes.
Got to love players who don’t take responsibility for their pea hearts and lack of intent.
I think we would be stupid to sack Simmo, at the start of the year most said it would be acceptable to win 4 games. We are a 50 point better side than last year so we are progressing. History has shown sacking coaches doesn't work
I'm gonna back Adam Simpson on this one. I reckon its all the media, they love stirring the s**t quite frankly. In my mind there are a lot of ungrateful bastards out there, Adam Simpson was the man that led the way to a premiership in 2018, and then the big drop all the way to wooden spoon in 2023. I'm a Dockers Supporter myself and I have all the respect in the world for the West Coast Eagles for everything the club has achieved, but Jesus Christ man there are a lot of toxic people out there, fans, media and possibly people in the realm of the club. Its what happens when you have an aging list, dropping skillset and a high level of injuries crippling the playing group. And now the club is rebuilding, and they have a good crop of recruits. People need to be patient and chill out.
Been cracks for some time...move on Simmo and get some fresh perspective. Got pulled apart by Mitchell last week. Squad still has big issues. 3:57
Most players aren't really going to say what they think, while he's there are they.
Because that itself, would be a problem if the thought is divided.
Afterall West Coast Eagles aren't the Australian Cricket Team.
I love Simmons to bits premiership coach but I do think that it is time to go
please let me disagree my good sir.
i think simmo should stay until the end of his contract.
the game plan we are playing is a simple contest ball. we are building and this years game plan isn't the high possession but build contest. look at it like a long pre season next year or the year after start the possession game.
the 3 players who don't like the selection that should be good. i don't know if its more but if you are not getting picked you should be pissed, they are professional athletes and should think they should be picked. if a player was happy not getting a game then they should be gotten rid of.
as for Maric i think with the addition of J Williams we need someone a bit smaller and hutchy fits that bill.
Maric is listed as 196cm and Hutchey is 190cm.
the other option is Brookman who is 180cm and he is playing for his life in the next 2 weeks.
Darling has been really good if you take into inside 50 delivery Darling has been playing well. he takes a lot of heat off Waterman and Allen.
also also i think Allen said it best in his press conference when asked if you guys are playing for the coach. Allen said yes but not just the coach but everyone at the club. i think to much gets put into are the players playing for the coach. the players should be playing for each other and that is the coaches job.
i never miss a true eagle since you started the channel keep up the good work
Always the coach never the players next coach could be worse. A clean out required
Aside from those 4 key players you names who else would slot into a top 4 team not many i would imagine… the list is a problem there is just not enough talent on the list
There are so many things wrong with West Coast atm.
Leadership - McGovern is probably our best leader. No one seems to fly the flag as evident today when Gawn was on top of Harley in scuffle and Tim Kelly does a pretend help and just lets Gawn sit on top of him. When Harley is frustrated there's a lack of assertiveness. Get him off, move him up forward, players should get in his ear. There's no way Harley Reid does that for Sydney, Geelong, Hawks of the past where there's more discipline and leadership.
Players out of position - At this moment there's no point having a tired looking Yeo and out of sorts Kelly who doesn't chase in the midfield. We have more than competent key forwards and key defenders. Putting Yeo down back and Kelly up forward sorts out forward line and backline. Then we play young blokes on the ball and get some games into them. If we're getting thumped each week then we may as well get midfield game time into the future of this team. A young midfield is gonna struggle from time to time but we're struggling now. At least we are solid down back and up forward. Then there's the ruck. Sign a number one ruck already.
Assistant coaches - we've lost some good assistants over the years. Mitchell was here for our last flag. Just look at assistants at clubs like Collingwood, Sydney, Essendon and even St Kilda. The Saints have the likes of Lenny Hayes, Robert Harvey, Corey Enright and Brendan Goddard in there.
Just my 10 cents
Ryan// Allen// Brockman
Dewar// Waterman// Kelly
Chesser// Hall// Cripps
***// Ginbey// Reid
Yeo// Gov// Duggan
Maric// Barrass// Hough
JWilliams// Hutchinson// Culley// Hewett
* * * Sign a ruckman
* We're gonna get pick 1 or 2 in draft. Sign best available midfielder or trade pick down like we did with Ginby and Hewitt.
This team may get thumped but that's what's happening now. This would at least be my proposal for next seasons team. Or if fully fit start it now.
We haven't recruited/traded/drafted well over the past 5 years. Chesser, Ginbey, Long average at best. Hewett, Burgiel and Flynn are injury prone. Brockman hasn't shown much. Then we have young guys like Culley and Maric who aren't getting regular opportunities in favour of underperforming veterans. We have a bevy of kids like Hall, Johnston, Rawlinson, Dewar etc waiting for a proper go. If we're serious about this rebuild, we need to drop some veterans and get some games into our kids. Darling, Gaff, Ryan, Petch, Cripps etc are not the future of the club. These young guys are.
I will back Simo as long as he is our coach.
Players need to stand up and take responsibility with there own performance.
Simmo certainly backs in darling
Yep Darling wtf
Only 8 wins since 2022
Old mate needs the sack.
Rhett bazzo is one of the people who don't want him
Why
Ill make this short and sweet....... You do not come out of a 3 year horror spell all at once. Its a gradual turn around with some good team efforts followed by some worse ones you can clearly see the beginnings of this happening you just have to wait a bit for the consistency to return. So relax
Dead man walking
West Coast are Gash ..absolutely embarrassing .
Personally i was disgusted by the coaching effort last weekend. To push all of our players into the back 50 (which was clearly a coaching directive as it happened multiple times) i thought was one of the dumbest decisions i've seen from a coach given the team strengths and weaknesses. Firstly the likelihood that we were going to give up a free kick or a mark was pretty high even with that overcrowding but if we did happen to get a fast break through reid or yeo or ryan who they had running through the middle who are they kicking to????????? thin fkin air. Secondly what sort of message does that send to players? We cant trust the backline or back anyone in to do their role? Its not good for player mentality or bonding. Honestly absolutely disgraceful coaching and he deserves every ounce of criticism he's getting. I have been on simpsons back for years in my circle of friends, i've seen so many questionable things and i cannot wait till we get rid of him. Possibly the worst coach the eagles have ever had. Don't give me any bs about 2018 either, he inherited a good lineup.
Wheels will fall of now. Cracks will get bigger.
Letting Simpson see out the rest of the season is the dumbest I've heard. Why would anyone wait 4 months before starting to fix something they know is broken right now
The West Australian is a dishrag, and I really do not care for him or the rag he writes for. Whether Simmo stays or goes is irrelevant, who the hell is gettable that's worth consideration?