The Most Secretly Overpowered Plane In War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- What plane comes to mind when you think about untouchable aircraft in War Thunder? I can name a few, but funnily enough none of them happen to be British... Except for one.
0:00 Intro
0:30 History
1:09 Airspawn & Engines
2:43 Flight Characteristics
3:12 1v1 Ability & Flaps
3:38 Rip Speed Characteristics
4:47 Armor
5:23 Internal Modules
5:52 Fires
6:53 Gripes/Weaknesses
7:32 Conclusion
8:20 Outro - Ігри
Today I learned that the Air Defence spawn is higher than the interceptor one.. despite playing both types for hundreds of hours
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The difference is really not that big, like 1-2 hundred meters
2:20 The P-51H does have 150 octane fuel, it just isn’t a modification you unlock. That’s why with its Merlin engine it can reach its absolutely insane 90” Hg manifold pressure and ~2300hp. The Hornet, with its own Merlin, can only do 80” and ~2200hp.
If both have late-war Merlins and 150 octane then why does the P-51H have more MP/power, one may ask? It’s because the P-51H uses water injection to boost the power limit even further. That’s why it has limited WEP (limited water tank).
Thank you, my mistake.
P-51 already have 150 octane fuel since D10.
A lot of the things you said about the Hornet is why the P-38L is one of my favorite props in the game that aften gets overlooked, just tuned down for 4.7
"the hornet is the most op piston fighter in game"
the hornet:
-Handles worse than a pe8
-has the four worse 20mm's in game
-flat spins the moment it gets asymmetrical thrust
-while fast it's not even as quick as the p51h or the f8f-1b
@@kingghidorah8106Maybe he’s just a god then lol.
@@BARelement nah, he just got the stats up when Britain would fight mostly alongside USA against slow zeroes and German planes and when the weird case was vs USA it was mostly bombers. The P51H is the bane of your existence and if you miss out a re2005 it will definitely catch you up if you start diving a single degree down more than 15 negative pitch.
@@kingghidorah8106 If you are noob you say so. I have no problems fight those planes you mentioned. But as I said. If u know how to fly u can top every single game.
@@maciejxxx4059 "if you are noob"
the Hornet along j5n1 are my highest stats props, 3.5 and 3.9kd
I remember when i was still new at the game and stuck at 5.7 with the Bf109K and got killed quite a lot by the hornet mk3. I never really knew what this plane actually was until now. I never bothered to look it up since it was still a pretty rare sight for me. Really cool seeing a video about a plane like this.
The quality and presentation of these videos is among the best I've seen for War Thunder content!
The only war thunder youtuber I find worth watching
Now have you seen freezed?
@@TonsofGunz4399 no but I will check it out
My man haven't watch DEFYN
Bro hasn’t watched joob before
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The cinematics are getting better all the time! I remember Adam514's old video on the Hornet, it flies like an early jet but without the poor acceleration. It's a shame it has been hit hard by the realshitter treatment.
i think it's high fire rate and good ammo count coupled to this planes insane ability to go cold anytime help it cope with Realshitter. Ki83 on the other hand is much slower than a Spitfire and has just 150 cannon rounds that do nothing against US aircraft which is the bread and butter of that thang
The Attacker (Premium and tech tree) are also one of my favorite somewhat overpowered? aircraft to use in Ground RB as well.
Also amazing video as usual Pilli :)
for ground RB, the mk24 spitfire works better than the attackers.
@@friendlysnoworb6091 I would agree, but it’s nice to know some people can still achieve good reasults with vehicles like the Attacker
@@friendlysnoworb6091 not at all :)
My favorite quirk about the attacker is that the flaps literally can’t be ripped (i’m assuming since they’re linked to the air brakes) meaning you can be at max speed and get an insane amount of lift in exchange for losing a good bit of energy. If you’re good at flying low and using stealth belts you can catch most other pilots off guard insanely well with the speed advantage you’ll have since most players (like you) would be bring props into ground RB or be situationally unaware attack aircraft or Me-262 pilots who nosedive into the ground. Not to mention having decent 20mms (with a relatively low ammo count imo) and a pretty good bomb load, i’ve had multiple 8+ air kill and even more ground kill games in it. It’s a truly under rated aircraft in my personal experience and has pretty much been the reason i’ve unlocked most of the British air tree.
As the name suggests it's a pretty good attacker but as an actual fighter I prefer the sea meteor which is only 0.3 higher but performs better in a dogfight
@@cato2k182 Now I want to go back and spade it lol
The T-18B is in a pretty similar position. Its two powerful engines make it an excellent fighter, but since its a bomber it gets the bomber spawn.
It has a high wing rip speed, good flaps, responsive rudders and the "holy airbrake". Using these things combined lets you win 1v3 fights with ease regularly, even against even FW-190s *ask me how i know ;)*
Edit: forgot to mention the sturdy airframe and handy HMG gunner that save you in any picklely situation.
T18B (57) is even better since the 57 variant gets a 57 which can one tap bombers and since it’s 4.3 it goes against the weaker bombers like the B-25
i dont like the 57mm variant that much.
its good for bomber hunting or CAS but it suffers when fighting fighters unlike the regular T18b.
The 57mm make the T18b way heavier, removes the ability to carry bombs and removes the "holy airbrake".
The plane being heavier from the 57mm makes it feel like you are flying with a full bombload, constantly hampering your ability to propperly fight and it also makes the vertical performance kinda dookie.
Not being able to carry bombs removes a free 2000rp from each battle. the T18b is normally fast enough to get to a base, bomb it and still be 10km away from the nearest fighter. On top of that if you dont get an aerial kill in a match, you get basically nothing.
Unlike with the regular T18b where you have 2000rp no matter what because of the base you bombed.
Lastly the "holy aibrake" being gone is such a debuff because you cant nearly adjust the speed aswell as you normally can with the airbrakes.
I just think that the 57mm variant has more Cons than Pros to it but it sure fun as hell to use for ground battles/bomber hunting
Thank you for Highlighting this Hidden Beauty.
Hornet is really a hidden gem in the UK Tech Tree, I always play this plane a lot in 6.0-7.0 Matches and for clearing Kill Bomber player mission. It's also one of the few aircraft in the game in it's BR that can guaranteed Interception of Ju-288 in it's BR. My only complaint is that the Hispano gun frustrated me a lot, so many times the gun fails killing the target when it's should've been dead in few burst.
It's hard for words to describe how good you production is, loved every second of the video.
Oh and thank you for adding (C&C Generals) music, truly nostalgic.
Glad to have found your channel, truly underrated.
These videos are so underrated keep up the awesome work watching from Australia 😊😊
Your editing turned a 10/10 video in to a 100/10. This is a work of passion and it shows.
first video of yours ive seen and i have to say its 10/10. great work, keep it up
Great work on the video! Your F-16 hidden mechanic video going viral helped make its way into my feed, and I've been really enjoying your content since discovering your channel. You do a superb job in editing, and sound design, which really shows how much effort you put into your videos; even the thumbnails are always of great quality. It's of particular joy to myself when I find creators in the WT community like you who do more than just make match compilations... not that there is anything wrong with that, but creators like @ZoltanSultan, @TimsVariety, and yourself, are truly content creators that should get more attention than they do. Anyways, keep up the great work!
On a side note, similar to the Hornet Mk. III, the P-61C-1 in the American tech tree also is a hidden gem for prop planes in the game; at least in my personal opinion. It too shares the privilege of being classified as an Air Defense Fighter, and also has EFS similar to the Hornet Mk. III. I believe both planes received EFS within the same patch, but I could be mistaken. The P-61C-1 does have the downside of being significantly heavier than the Hornet Mk. III, which hurts its climb rate, top speed, and acceleration in comparison between the two, but it has a very similar play-style, airbrakes, and a (4x) .50cal turret on the top of the aircraft. The turret does help in countering reversals, as well as in some of the sluggishness both planes have in prolonged dogfights; where getting your cannons on target can get a bit tough. If you enjoyed the Hornet Mk. III, I highly recommend trying the P-61C-1 if you haven't already. The premium P-61A-11 shares the Air Defense Fighter role and has EFS, but for a whole -0.3br you have significantly weaker engines; making it essentially completely impractical to ever use, so much so it was removed from regular sale and can only be bought on special occasions.
On a side-side note, I'd also recommend the Ta 154 A-1 (one might now be able to tell that I love twin engine prop planes...), in-part by being a player made model, its performance is superb, and handles significantly better than one might assume looking at it just on the surface level. It too has a wooden frame like the Hornet Mk. III, and similar to both the Hornet Mk. III and the P-61, it's incredibly durable. I could go into more depth... and brevity is not one of my strong suits, so I'll end it here instead of continuing this somewhat long comment. Cheers!
Thank you! Means a lot.
This feels like it could be used as an official war thunder vehicle guide, interesting history and comprehensive explanation of the plane, without the video being a drag to watch.
Great job, man!
I really like how your cinematics are relevant to the topics you speak of. Never seen another WT youtube do that. Subbed, even though I don't play anymore.
Love your video format mate. Keep up the great work!!
Great video! Love your editing
the transition was PRISTINE MY MAN, keep up
Wow dude your videos are next level!!! Amazing Amazing Amazing! Well done sir! Standing ovation!
Bro I really like your editing style
Fantastic video production here. Subbing and it's time to go through the catalog!
Great video with bags of useful information - thanks!
You just earned another sub. What a fantastic video.
A well put together video, nice
bro video quality is so good you should have at least 3 million subs
incredible quality dude
Sick video, super well produced!!!
Fighting these things in the k4 is fucking terrifying.
Wow i love this type of warthunder vid great stuff
Damn, forgot just how good this guy’s videos were, love it
good editing, narration, physics history and actual plane knowledge, who is this guy?
sick video editing bro must have taken days to get this much quality from wt
The air spawn is the only thing saving this plane. It doesn't even come close to the performance of P-51H's, Ta-152's, or spitfires. That one trick you use might be useful against 109K's but any plane that can reverse the turn quick enough will immediately kill you.
Most op planes by my KD: CW-21(25kd), P-38G (13KD), B-34 (11KD), Ta-154 and A2D (6.5KD), P-59 and F2G (5KD). I highly recommend playing the B-34 the way it was meant to be played.
I was thinking about getting this thing but I not sure and good video they are very nice to watch
Magnificent video very well done sir 🤌
Just found this chnnel. Really nice editing.
The shots in this video are so cool! 🎉
This is such a true statement the only planes that scared me in my BF-109 it was hornets and spitfires above me.
Id love to see a fight between the KI83 and this thing
Ki-83 is much better
Oh my god sombody realized the thing exists
Agree Hornet is really underrated in warthunder and not played enough its a real beast if someone plays it right probably the best prop plane at its br
Its *secretly overpowered* because to enemies that pay attention and have more than 2 braincells its impossible to die to this thing.
this feels like a tv documentary lol very nice video
This is like the most well produced video on War Thunder, how does it not have more views
yoooo that water splash on the screen at 1:10 is just magic
hornet talking mad shit until it looks up and sees a Ki-83 in the ionosphere
I like how my laptop stopped randomly (it has been doing it for some time now) at 9:47 in the perfect frame where you can see how the Bf-190 K just explodes in oil
this channel is actually a hidden gem
In regards to extinguisher-equipped fighters, the SBD-3 can also get it. I know it's advertised as a dive bomber, but with the 50 cal gunpods, it's actually a great fighter, outturning a decent amount of monoplanes if you get it right (takeoff or landing flaps), and its airbrakes help massively with reversals. But if you try to climb, that's a no go, the engine doesn't have the juice to sustain it.
Great video - note for everyone some Italian fighters have fire extinguishers
I gave up on it at stock grind. I might have to give it another go. As fornyour 2 negatives, hispano are my fav air cannon so that's a big up for me haha
What sound mod are you using? Or are you using your own sound design while editing?
Amazing video, i’ve been playing the hornet for years as my “braindead plane” it’s basically invulnerable
Also, basically all British prop planes have FPE which is a nice plus
This is good content, but I think you might be one of the only 2 War Thunder UA-camrs I can think of who uses Feet/MPH/F so it makes it really hard to understand temps, speed, and altitude. I gotta crack out a calc when I watch a video!
I do love the hornet, it is a great plane. One thing to note are the horrible stall characteristics. Many times i have gotten myself into flatspins that are only recoverable through the use of individual engine control.
I fly the Do335 a lot at 5.7 and I have to say early game the Hornet is the only plane I'm scared of. I can be above everyone at the start of the game with the Hornet being the exception.
And I agree about early game kills on AFK players, its actually ridiculous how many free kills you can collect with an airspawn, especially in the 288 lobbies where allied fighters usually don't have to worry about people climbing above them.
Bro has the next level editing
If you want a similarly dominant aircraft, try out the Sea Vixen. I slept on that thing for ages. I am certainly not a great player but I managed nearly 200 kills before my free repairs ended, and my winrate is at 79% in it.
6:25 the CAC Boomerang also has an extinguisher
Ah yes the Hornet, as a Ta H1 main, my main enemy, I have learned to beat it to the pulp and never be bothered by it again, way back when everyone still thought the Ta was a brick.
Try the Ki-83, it's practically a Japanese equivalent but with even better performance at the cost of the interceptor spawn.
ive really been struggling with it, and honestly the flaps may be it. though in air sim it has this nasty habit of just flatspinning from a high bank turn. think ai bombers/recon planes in that circling thing they do. the hornet very much likes to just keel over and fall when trying to match said turns. its an odd one, but one i have found very endearing all the same
I think I never managed to flatspin one undamaged, just buzzing left and right until something dies. The guys flying with me in the hornets had some issues like yours. :D
I love the Hornet, but I hate playing 6.0 because of the 288 spam. It just makes the game not fun when I spend half the match chasing bombers
personally ive found success with the hispano mk5s on the vamoire fb 52
I agree unfortunately the last fight I had against a hornet I was in the BI and it didn’t stand much chance
You could pit the F-16 against a BI and it would still struggle
Fair enough XD
Finally somebody talking about the Hornet. Most fun plane I’ve ever flown and yes, broken as hell
A plane I can think of that is similar to the hornet mklll is the P-38k. It has a unmatched climb rate at the br. It can turn fight with bf 109s no problem and energy traps enemy planes like no one’s business and with 1850hp each engine with wep that will last the whole match the p-38k is a monster at the br can probably give the hornet mklll a hard time in the right situation.
Have you tried switching to the AP belts for the 20mm i have done this recently to better result then the AA belts.
Also the the sexy noise it makes when it dives on you at 700kph like i don’t get mad when I get river by a hornet I just love the noise it makes
I tought i was watching a 100k+ channel because of the video quality
Hi! Can you do a ki-83 video just like this? I just want to see the same persons opinion about both of them!
This and p51 NA are my favorite aircraft to fly. Well balanced but when you use them to their strengths they become super deadly.
I prefer the hornet for its firepower and airspawn
I managed to beat a D13, starting at a disadvantage too. While I think the overall manoeuvrability is less than what it was really capable of (multiple sources saying the roll rate was excellent for a heavy fighter) I’ve found its roll rate to be roughly the same at 200mph as it is at 500mph. Presume this is down to spring tabs.
I've always REALLY hated fighting this thing. It always fools you into a false sense of security because of its twin engine layout but it can out-digfight most piston engine fighters in the game, and it gets a busted airspawn which allows it to literally rush the enemy team while they're still climbing.
it's sheer vertical retention and constant turn makes it absolutely busted, but it's painful to lead your guns into people. It's the opposite of the f7f.
Hornet was my chocie for removing airfield campers when they were a thing. I even have a video of me doing it. Carries 2x1000 and no loss of power. Just go up and dive to remove annoyances
Goes hard
Bro that last Bf 109 was just trying to pull infront of you in every move, I'd have broken off and circle around you when you're slow.
So true I love playing the hornet
Hispanos are great cannons, using the tracer belts seem to be the best for me
To note: it's very powerful when spaded
If it's stock it's gonna be way slower and way less responsive. Try to get the octane fuel as fast as you can
ngl the very last fight in the outro puzzled me. whyd the guy keep flying in front of you? was he testing your shooting capabilities? the line between dogfighting incapability from the enemy and trolling is very thin
i think i met you in game few hours before....
was that you using stealth & killed by ta 152h??
The typhoon also has extinguishers
Hm, I have the Hornet Mk.3, but never played it. Maybe I should try it out (though I never had trouble killing them with other fighters, hence why I never felt like it was something I should play)
at 6:43 where do you get those extra climb and such meters
So thats why I saw so many hornets when I wanted to play my 109K4
The b-239 for the swedes at 2.0 also gets EFFS and 4 50cals in a Br filled with open tops, bt5s and Bt7s. It is a obsurd aircraft for its BR.
Random question but how come the hanger npcs are standing so close to the plane at 5:00? I want that in my hanger!
TIL that they apparently made an even faster version of the Mosquito. No wonder it's OP.
Too bad it wasn't in kilometers and meters I think more players use that measurement in the game. I am imperial system but have used the metric system since I have been playing this game back in 2012/13... But good video and most of the stuff there was a kilometers or km/h........
I try to put conversions in my videos whenever possible. I know most WT players use km/h & meters, but being a filthy American, I'm too familiar with mph and ft... (I never bothered to change distance from km to mi, oddly enough)
@@Pilicast I hear ya bro I'm American as well and when I started that's what I used for measurements but that changed after 2012 into 2013 cause everyone was squading up with said everything in the metric system so I said F@k it and changed over since EVERYONE besides us Americans uses the Metric. But it's all good do what you're comfortable with 👍
Yeah imma try the British tech tree now just to get this
Back in the days before the gun nerds/when Hispano was buffed. It’s was a real monster. But we all know the REAL secretly OP monster was/is the Ki-83 😨. In a fair 1 on 1 the Ki 83 won every-time!
May I introduce you to the Ki-83?
thats what i was thinking. at least the ki 83 uses the meredith effect to squeeze out some extra thrust
Would like to mention the Ki83 as a fantastic contemporary, its no where near as effective now that real shatter has ruined the Ho155's but you essentially get the same experience as the Hornet minus the ergonomic features like EFS but with much better guns. The Ho155s are one of the best cannons you can find on a prop with 60g of TNT equivalent and over 900m/s velocity. If you like the Hornet I think you would really enjoy the Ki83, its by far one of the most enjoyable aircraft in the whole of the Japanese tech tree
Then maybe you'd also enjoy the ki-96. For how few people play it, I find it to be extrememly strong at it's br. It's got a nice airspawn, an insane climbrate, very nice acceleration and speed, and it's far more manuverable than you'd expect. The guns don't have much ammo, but if you can learn to aim them well, then you'll find they can kill pretty consistently.
Basically, with the ki-96, if you play your cards right, then the only plane that will ever give you problems is the XP-50. To everything else, you're basically untouchable.
the hispanos are working as intended now, one second burst results in a kill
The DO335 also has extinguishers
consider ur skill at the hornet u should try the p61. youll love it
My friend has been using this lately whenever I fly my 6.0 jap interceptors
Blame real shatter for the hispano problem. My meteor used to one tap other jets and super props, now it takes 200 rounds a kill