The Soviet Psychological Warfare Missile | War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2023
- One of the less commonly used armaments in War Thunder, this one in particular is a nasty surprise to those who end up on its receiving end.
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“At 10.3, you’re gonna have a really tough time trying to find a flareless target”. I present to you, the entire Japanese air tree, excluding 3 planes. Rip F-1, T-2, and F-104J.
Ahh thank you, now I know where I can get more pain
Use zunis, they can act as flares sometimes
And the Swedish J35D Draken. 10.3 with no flares
@@samspeed6271 isnt it jolly fun when you get uptiered as a J32B Lansen and face all kinds of missiles that, sometimes are dodgeable but reaaaally darn tough since the j32b cant turn for shit. Still love it though, sexy plane
I would love to play the Japanese air tree but gosh playing F-1 is such a pain
Radar guided missies at 8.7 are just criminal , I always see mig 21s slamming people from far distances with these bad boys in the beginning of the match
Yeah…. Its a pain as a whole when im using subsonic 8.3 aircrafts against a decade later aircraft equipped with weapons made a little more later…
@@yokokoko499 the Saab 105 gets AIM9Bs and it's 8.3 , meaning it can face the me262 a1u1 and il28s which are 7.3
when down tier, i never fired missiles at lower tier jets, i mainly focus on enemy jets that has missile capabilty, ( i use mig19 and yak38 :') )
I use the Vautour (the interceptor one), and those radar missiles in a frontal attack are very good.
The best thing is that it is 8.7 so a poor Me262 can get slammed by it
When I started jets and used my sea vixen a lot I was terrified of these things, but after long enough you start to realise that the people who play these don't really know what they're doing and can be killed quite easily
"At 10.3, it's hard to find people who don't have flares"
Proceeds to get most of his kills on people who don't have flares
@@LethalFlashgg A lot of his kills were against planes without countermeasures
Probably because he isn't showing any of the times he shot at someone who does have flares.
russians got 2 planes with flares until 10.0 and both of them are not the planes that in tree line you first started to grind couple years ago
R-3Rs are goated
The MiG-21S with R-3R is incredibly lethal, as it's at a low enough BR because of the lack of 30g missiles, but retains the 10.3 MF engine. Keep up the good work 🫡
Yep, I love my 21 S despite the fact that all my friends say it's a "bad plane " I think they just assume I use the r3S
i watched many videos and I still cannot manage using those missles. how to see that green square thingy on the right side of my screen ? it looks like a classic radar in my game
I swear, whenever I play with my F-4C these missiles are really terrifying when you're wondering why the hell is a Mig-21 locking you in the first place.
Sparrow D outranges the R3R. I use the F4C exactly like this MiG. But the AIM7D can be launched at 12-14mi where the R3R can launch at about 8. You splash them and their R3R looses lock as you're still head on
As an F8-U enjoyer I have learned to respect the SMT up high.
15 flare charges is already plenty, so I always bring mixed. Better to be safe then sorry.
SMT/MF is pain in the ass even for F-4E
@@PyromaN93 In a prolonged dogfight SMT eats F4E alive.
Only real option for the Phantom is to get Sparrow kill. Made easier by the CW seeker ignoring chaff in a head on.
@@aleksanderf4672 I know
@@aleksanderf4672actually the opposite, the F-4E will runn mig21's balls dry. Especially when it starts going for a flat rate with slats out, it will never lose speed while pulling around 10-11Gs
dude the angles and camera work in your videos is just awespme, i don't think there's someone else in wt community that does this kind of stuff nearly as good as you do
Writing as a MiG-21 pilot from DCS, your lauding of the R3-R is more than just. The strengths of the missile also appear there as well, and are especially evidenced on Enigma's Cold War server. I can confirm BLUFOR pilots never anticipate radar guidance and always jink and pop flares. Occasionally they will fly head on into the missile, mostly Viggens. It's great to see the missile exhibiting similar performance across two game engines.
This is the first video I have seen of yours and I am impressed. Nicely condensed, quality audio & recordings and a great edit. I especially enjoyed the clips at 1:59 subscribed.
3:11 This is just my opinion, but I think the F-4C is fun to fly. It's really bad but it's so bad it loops around and becomes fun again.
Honestly haven't been able to even look at it since the Su-25 and A-10 were released.
How you gonna counter all-aspects that outclass your early-ass radar missiles in every way while not having any CM
Bring 1 mighty mouse triple-pod. As long as you catch the missiles early enough and cut your burner/throttle, you should be able to use 6-10 rockets as flares for most non-magic 1 missiles as long as you're also turning. It's not perfect nor as good as regular flares, but it's kept me from dying a good many times.
@@dutchdragon2472 Man, if F-4C can catch up with 104's or even 105, F-4c will not have problem outrunning it.
@@dutchdragon2472 Well, generally I've had a lotta luck at high altitude with the AIM-7D, and being at such altitudes puts me out of the way of the onslaught of all aspects. Even when an A-10 or Su-25 shoot a missile at me (which is most commonly from behind), provided the launch was far enough away, I can wait for it to stop burning and then do small alternating turns to drain its energy. I've dodged many R-60Ms and 9Ls in that way. F-4C is one of my favorite planes to fly in general. it has its downsides but i think its relatively fun.
@@dutchdragon2472rockets as flares
That R3R tale for WT makes me think of something "similar" a few BR below : The G.91 R/4 Nord AA missiles
Nobody at 8.7 expects a front-facing missile, so you just have to lure someone into a face-to-face and throw a surprise gift!
Just do a custom loadout with 2 AA Nords, 2 Sidewinders, and a .50 gun full of tracers and there you go!
Wow this is very well recorded and edited. Great work!
I honestly love these kind of videos, informational and captivating.
A lot of good info and story telling. Keep it up!
Suggestion:
The J-21/A-21 series. Most air RB players at 4.3 aren't the brightest(P-47 players) and will full-commit to head-ons at which point you can greet them with your mini 20mm cannons.
This missile just reminds me of a scaled down version of the R-24R, supershot burn time but great energy retention.
What an excellent video mate, you just gained a new subscriber!
remember that the MiG-21's radar, the Sapphire-21 operates in band J, a lot of early RWRs can only detect up to band I, meaning they won't get any radar launch warnings (or any warning at all) if you launch an R-3R at them.
This video alone made me interested in finally using my MiG-21MF many years after buying it. Amazing stuff.
I might even consider getting MiG-21S just for this.
such a high quality video! you sir are underrated!
fantastic editing, subscribed
Idk if this is still the case due to BR changes. Most matches I used this missile, I tried to pick on targets I knew didn't have RWR. Basically makes this thing a silent killer if you are far enough away. This usually involves climbing and looking out for other radar missile carrying planes though
Your so underated you make such high quality videos and is unique love the vids keep it up
The later model P-47s were indeed used for turnfighting in real life, so the example with the P-47 is not exactly appropriate. Because of the insane thrust of the late war R-2800 the P-47Ds could actualy win prolonged turnfights against BF109s even at low altitute. There are videos about people doing it in DCS aswell. The 109 just doesn't have the thrust to stay at a good manovering speed for prolonged periods.
Don’t tell the unwashed masses about the glory of late P-47s, specially the M variant.
P-47 is fine, i turnfighted and killed many 109`s on it. So question is to whoever first started the meme of "unplayable" P-47.
Great video as always!
love the cinematography
I used the R-3R as an all-aspect on my SMT, finally someone made a video on this.
Same here. Everyone is hating around on that missle but I never stopped using it. It is just too great for this BR.
My man you are gonna get far with this quality
Very unique video! Keep it up and you'll be flying with Phly one day bro!
You know, I'm fully aware of these things carrying R-3R before getting the Crusader so when I got it, I ALWAYS arm it with Chaff & Flares(flares priority since SARH doesn't appear too often in those BRs).
Aim9cs are better overall in everything same br and they're 18gs and the ONLY sidewinder sarhs ingame
Most high-quality and under-rated youtuber possibly ever?
The r3rs are great but the 9cs blow them out the water
agree lol... most of my kills in F8E are mig21s
Difference in br helps
@@sixthgreeny1880 in the video hes using 10.3 mig21 i think
the editing in this entire video is fucking SUPERB
I bought the mig-21S a year ago on the new year sale and have over 400 battles in it. I very quickly learned that the R-3R was a great missile to use at that BR and found a lot of success with it. I don't use it as much anymore (because I like shooting R-24R's in my MLD), but the R-3R and Mig-21S is a great combo to have learned using radar missiles.
great vid for watching in front of my grandparents that are fliers thanks for the amazing vid!
Well made vids 👌👌
3:08 when I saw you mention my beloved I had to step in,
It's pretty easy to evade missiles in this thing the F-4C can carry rocket pods which I find effective against R-60's while burning still or even in a head on with the SU-25's R-60M's and while it only gets AIM-9E's and AIM-7D's I find that I can do quite well with the AIM-7D's launching at 10km up high is something nobody expects at 10.0 and the majority of my team are just prems so getting 5+ kill games are pretty easy especially with those 3 juicy GAU-4's
I can confirm, the R-3R gets me most of my kills when in high alt. I love the Mig-21S (r-13 100)
Yep 100% agree R-3r is actually really good especially the premium mig 21 on Soviet tech tree at that low br. And would recommend Making your radar lock on key bind with an extra mouse button let’s you spam it so if they do have chaff you sometimes can re acquire them.
How tho? In my mig 21 r13 300 (the premium 9.7) literally all I ever go up against are flare spamming and Aim9L spamming a10’s, harriers, f5’s and a6e trams. I can’t even get close enough with my mig21 to launch a R3R because my enemies will already have 2 to 3 Aim9L’s on me.
@@GermansRuinedWT yea I get that idk I guess I’m just lucky with downtiers but the mig 21 in German tech tree the same but has flares and also r60s
@@andrewwillard5625that’s such bs, when I tell you I have NEVER had a single down tier in about 300 games of that mig21, I mean it. It’s so annoying to play when everything has flares and missiles they can spam.
@@GermansRuinedWT all of these excluding f5 are slow ass heavy attacker planes, so you either missile them from above or get them in a dogfight
use the 21 mf@@GermansRuinedWT
I've been waiting for a video on the R-3R, I always carry atleast 1 on my SMT
Pretty solid video. Kind of stuff only a genius would think of. Gives me new ideas.
The irony of youtube recommending this to me just a couple days after I died to an R3R in a headon, going nuts bc I thought there were all aspects at 9.3, is insane.
Great video!!
I just unlocked the MiG 21SMT the other day and randomly remembered this video. I’ve been pretty successful killing the grinders at 10.3 thanks a lot for this video
The R-3R is the ideal missile for the complicated and very smart actually tactic of "think fast chucklenuts"
if this still works you sir, just earned a sub :)
"At 10.3 you're gonna have a really tough time trying to find a flareless target". I present to you, the entire British tech tree except top tier.
A fellow R-3R player, you have my subscription sir
Another benefit of the r3r is the fact that it is on alower band then most rwr at 10.3 and below so theydont even get a heads up that theyve been locked
Amazing video,brings up alot of great points. What sound pack do you use if not custom? it sounds amazing and id love to use it
Even better are the AIM-7Cs on the F3H. They are realy difficult to learn at first because if you launch them too early they won't have the range and if you launch them too late they won't track because they don't track off the rail, but if you launch them at just the right distance they are amazing. They pull 15Gs so it's realy difficult to dodge them, they are CW missiles, meaning they can ignore chaff for 2 up to 2 seconds after the enemy deployed it as long as you stay locked to the chaff cloud and they have more range then any other missile around that BR.
Hello,
nice video i really liked it but i have a question. What soundmod are you using ?
Hahaha yes! I literally just saw this after getting off the SPSK; such an underrated missile, you can also use them to conduct psychological warfare, having 3 missiles when the SPSK usually carries 2
I use 2 R3R`s and 2 R-60 on my mig21mf. Best from both worlds, amazing headon capability + R-60`s.
Have you considered making a video about the 8.3 vautour with radar missiles ?
a big thing with soviet interceptors, namely the later MiG-25 was to equip them with both IR and radar missiles, so that even if the enemy used one tactic that countered one missile, it wouldn't work against the other.
that is a very good video!
I do the same thing with the AIM-9C in the F-8E Crusader. Get high, get fast, lob a missile at a high and fast target and hope they don't have chaff. In an up tier it doesn't work at all because everything except the Draken, the Mitsubishi F1 and the F-104J, have CM and they usually take some chaff. But in a down tier, it's great against Harriers and the occasional Su-25 or A-10A.
Can confirm, working as intended
I remember when radars missiles were released and i loved the r3r.
I love the R-3R in DCS. In a cold war server, Viggens love to go head on and blow right past you. They never expect your R-3R, and when you do hit them head on it’s great.
1:55 *I love how the pilot is looking at me like that randomly for no reason...*
I love watching these videos despite knowing that I 100% have no interest in the WT aviation. Just feels satisfying to watch something you don't understand for some reason
Do you have some sort of audio pack modded into the game or something? Your guns and explosions seem to sound different (as in way cooler than current WT) so I'm interested in getting the same :D
I knew from the title this was about the R3R lol love that thing
I love using the r3rs they are so versatile and super fun to use because it's a challenge
4:48 beautiful shot
Love the R-3R on the MIG-21S, high alt F-104 go bye bye
The American Psychological warfare missile is AGM-65 on F-5E as an All Aspect Missile
Never saw it being used. I guess most F-5 players are just too braindead for it.
In DCS cold war servers, the R-3R is such a menace, no one expects an all aspect missile from a MiG-21 when everyone is running AIM-9B variants.
I was actually thinking about that because the r60 is so easily flareable and the r3r could be a good replacement. Can't wait to get the smt so I can try that! I have the sps-k
I love cruising around in the F-8E with 9Cs, by the time people realise you aren't sending an IR missile at you it's too late. I'll have to give it a go with the MiG-21 too.
F-8 and Mig21 are very similar as i observed. They are best played in same way, IR and radar missiles mix, climb up, kill, go down.
All the R variants of the soviet missiles also have a lower drag coefficient due to the pointy radar head compared to the flat IR seaker head of the T variants
I love this missle so much
I find the bigger issue with R3Rs is they work at high altitude in a MM where nobody climbs, I’ll usually only find one target that can get slammed by an R3R before having to drop altitude and brawl on the deck where the R3R is pretty much useless
I usually get high alt, secure position then throw r3rs down diagonaly to give them more speed while staying above as much as possible
And those who do climb have better radar missiles than the R3R.
9Cs already beat it, and if you run into a (dogfight) sparrows you are completely boned. I have slapped lots of MiG 21 out of altitude who think their R3Rs are a match to my sparrows.
I love the r3r, at that BR its amazing at mid-high altitude.
God i love the R3R, it's allways stupidly underestimated and that's it's beuty >:)))
I have just unlocked the MiG-21MF and immediately started slinging R-3Ss around, but I may have to give the R-3R a shot now.
5:36 the F3H also gets early sparrows and they’re still really bad (mostly because of the short range and the time before the missile starts tracking)
That is exactly the reason why use the M7 Charley on the F3H demon
Top tier before the pulse doppler radars trained me to always carry flare, chaff mix. I still do regardless of br because it's so ingrained in me from the sparrow and soviet equivalent spam days. Since pulse doppler radar, I have started notching quite often too, often while using chaff flare mix.
I usually fly with 3 r60s and 1 r3r, there’s always that one climber up in the air.
Very cool video 🙂
The 9.7 soviet premium fishbed gets these and at those BRs almost nobody thinks your shooting radar missiles. The majority of my kills in it come from the R3R. Easily one of my favourite missiles in the game, oh and it also slaps even harder in Sim
How do you get your game to sound like that? I dig those sound effects
So, this is possibly my favourite missile of the starting missiles. I use a 3xR3R and 1x S5K pod loadout on the MiG-21S R-300, because you can use it as you do here (in a headon) or be a bit of a troll and use that incredibly wide lock circle to lead the missile to hit aircraft that are sure they're safe, and use the S5s as ghetto flares.
I have a well over 2 average KD in air battles doing that.
I enjoy how I clicked on this vid to learn how to use it and get simple key binds but instead it’s just a video on what everyone already knows radar missile go brrrrrrrrr
This reminds me of the vautour 2N, with what seems to be a lackluster missile, but at 8.3, almost no one expects a radar missile to hit them from 8km out.
And at that BR bracket, no one even has RWR, let alone chaff, except for the A-4E
I ground out the USSR lines I didnt go for using the Mig 21S with the R3R. Carrying 4 of them was great
Funny that you talk about but about a year or 2 ago i used r3 r on the premium mig 21 S to grind out the soviet air tech tree and i will say i was surprised At actually how effective they were. Sadly the mig 21 S doesn’t have countermeasures making it damn near impossible to dodge aim 9L.
snother high quality video
what postfx settings do you use for your cinematic replay shots?
Reminds me when I play the A4E and a mig missile me on top of my turn. I flared but the missile still go on
very qualitative video
DCS player here, also dabbling in War Thunder. Against the opponents it faces, the R-3R is a tool that shouldn't be overlooked. In Cold War scenarios in DCS, I can confidently take a Mig-21Bis head-on into a two-ship of F-5s and lock either lead or wingman with the radar set and pick one of them off as I attempt to pass by the remainder into a climb and seek an advantageous position for a second attack. The missile's more effective than you'd think in a pure head-on pass at low altitude (as low as the radar will permit, mind) as many of the targets it faces in DCS and in WT aren't likely to have an effective weapon to retaliate from this aspect. As long as you don't get close enough to eat stray 20mm, you should be fine.
Struggling hard with this missile, takes forever to lock and then once it does the second someone flares it just spasm out.
I use a lot the Mig 21S, is good in realistic, but tbh it fights at 8.7 in AB, so it is pretty broken with how radars are buffed in arcade (less ground blur in radar)
Tbf one issue with the r3r is that it only pulls 10 g I've dodged them before in f30 sabres and ki 200s kinetically without any sort of counter measures even at about 4000m. Its a funny missile sometimes I'll grant you that but it really can be frustrating to use sometimes
I learned to respect the R-3R while flying the F-4C. What really makes it dangerous is also that the Fishbed is fast as hell at altitude, giving a solid speed bonus. You might think the F-4C is the better BVR plane flying high and fast, but I dare say its radar and missiles are not as reliable as the Mig-21 with R-3Rs. The Mig just needs to get closer before firing. It's a nasty surprise in a head-on.
Hey I noticed your sounds were different do you mind telling me which sound mod you are using?