When she said “I’ve been looking for him for hours” I automatically didn’t believe her. Why would you wait hours to call the police if you felt he was in danger?!
For sure. Also, there isn't really any "looking for someone" if they fall off a boat. On an open lake you can see for days in about every direction. If the person isn't in immediate view, the only sensible thing to do is call for help. And if you don't have a phone the most sensible thing is to go find someone who does and use theirs. Aimlessly wandering about the lake would be like running to the medicine cabinet to fetch a band-aide because someone caught on fire.
Whatt?>>> you don't believe her??? I trusted her the moment she said "omg miss my husband had a stroke out here on 'the lake'....... ope and btw... i forgot to tell you: he fell in the water; he's gone, he's dead and after i hang up, i'm going to throw this phone in the lake". How could you be more genuine?
I agree. There’s no way she’s innocent. Why wouldn’t she jump in and grab him? If my husband looked like he had a stroke and fell into a lake I would be over that rail before he hit the water. Not “looking for him” for HOURS.
Or maybe everyone noticed the same obvious problems with her story? Do we really need armchair psychology to figure out why the cops didn't accept her at face value?
@@anubispup4760Negativity??? No, that’s called him or her having at least one working brain cell. Oh, sorry. You wouldn’t know anything about that. Apologies.
This is the clearest and cleanest interrogation footage I've ever seen. They're one of the few departments that doesn't use "convenience store cameras" from 1993 AND it's at sitting level and not bird's eye view. This lady is trifling and sick. She really thought she could outsmart the coroner and forensics team. smh
Nikita Don Diva: This is so true. The clearest and best. You know this police force is about doing extremely good business. No one can say we can’t see. Beautiful, clear and bright.
I think she was really hoping that Larry would never be found. I would just like to know what happened to him a bit more. She killed him in the house and then somehow dragged him to the river and then pretended a while boating excursion with him but really she just took the boat out by herself? I think she had to have help to move him if that we the case. Not exactly the same as catching someone off balance and then going over when it's dead weight.. poor guy.
What "INSANE Twist?" Is the title just bait? A twist would be if he turned up alive with amnesia after she was arrested. But this was just a straightforward murder story.
95 times out of 100 the cops would have taken Lori's word and immediately closed the case with no investigation at all. Especially in a big city. Small town police have enough time to investigate if they care enough. Props to these cops for caring.
I'd say it's the opposite. Small town police is pretty biased and influenced by gossip. Countless of cases where innocents were convicted and lives ruined due to police thinking "it's gotta be x person", or criminals let free due to police not believing x could do this.
Same. He has a stroke? Call the ambulance. He falls in? Call the ambulance. Instead you search, for not minutes, but HOURS. I knew she was guilty from that single sentence.
Even before that she was fake crying and I was like she did it lol. Then she said that shit and I was like that's enough for a warrant as far as I'm concerned
As a surf life guard at on of Australia’s most dangerous beaches, I’ve seen/rescued many unconscious people from the water, not only in the ocean, but at the fresh water river. When someone falls unconscious into the water, naturally they float until the air in their lungs is replaced with water. They don’t just disappear and sink. It’s an impossibility from the get go.
I too was a life guard at Presque Isle Beach on Lake Erie in North West Pennsylvania, and while what you're saying is true, I've also seen people sink immediately. There are several factors that come into play, like a person's mental state, their body composition and water density. Heavier, high-salinity water, like the Dead Sea, or even the great Salt Lake can help people float. Salt is denser than the average person, so it's easier to float higher in saltier water. But in Lakes there's very little, if no salt at all, which would make a person sink easier.
@@jamieluce5808 Nah, Salt water and Lake water have very different Buoyancies. People float easier in salt water, and sink easier in Lakes with little to no Salt.
“She answered every question without me asking the questions” Erm.. good sir I feel like a victim of shock wouldn’t have every detail of the story worked out to the point of leaving an investigator questionless. She knew just what to tell you. 😅
@@tranquilrabies - I guess that would depend on the person. About 18 yrs ago my late husband & I went camping in the mountains in Calif. We were only there one night. The next morning we went gold panning in the river. Long story short, even though the guy who showed us how to pan for gold helped me do cpr and paramedics worked on him all the way, after I made it to the hospital I was informed he didn't make it. I was able to tell the coroner everything that happened. It wasn't until afterwards that I couldn't remember things. For the life of me I couldn't remember my sister-in-law's last name (their phone was in her name). An ombudsman was helping me. It finally hit me that she was the advertising director of a major restaurant chain so we were able to call them and they knew who she was by her first name. Then later I couldn't remember how to write a "b" and kept writing "d" (I had to write each letter of the alphabet before I remembered). Anyway, I could recall every minute (seemed like it) of what happened, but not other things. Was scary.
@@tranquilrabies Not really. At that point they hadn't even recovered the body yet, so they didn't even know what the cause of death was. Up to this point it was still entirely possible that it was just an accident as she claimed.
That guy was so dumb. I bet he was a little embarrassed 😳 for being wrong. He sounded so sure too lol 😆 " This was an accident as far as I can tell" . Thank God he wasn't the only one that was on the case.
@@pulaski1 I mean, realistically, how would you even go about looking? unless she jumped in, she very well could have called while searching. personally I would have been too scared to even remember I had a phone, I'm sure
The whole “I swear on my life” thing is so true, my ex boyfriend stole over $400 from my neighbors house and when confronted said he “swore on his papas life” he didn’t steal it. He did steal it and gave it back only after the neighbors threatened to get the police involved. People are crazy with their lies.
When I was seven, I was at Walmart with my dad. While he was checking out, he gave me a few dollars to go to the game area by the front doors. I played the claw machine and pulled out a mini backpack. I went back into the store to my dad as he was walking away from the checkout lane. We got to the door and a guy stopped us and asked to see the receipt. Apparently the checkout lady saw me with the bag and thought I was stealing it. I told him I won it at the machine. My dad asked me if I was telling the truth and I remember I said “I swear I’m telling the truth” and started crying. We waited a bit and the guy came back with the bag and said “Sorry about the misunderstanding. This isn’t in our system and we watched the footage. He was telling the truth.” Soooo…what was that about swearing? Something about it always being a lie right? Yea…that’s not always the case.
The fact she drugged him with dph is so sad. Dph in high quantities causes horrible nightmarish hallucinations and a delirious state. Not to mention the physical reactions are horrible. This poor man
As someone with my PhD in Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior I have to give credit where credit is due. I do not know your education background of course but, the way you describe things and draw attention to and NEVER EVER give a "definitive" and use could be, could possibly be. I have been addicted to your channel and have binge watched! Great job!
I appreciate your comment but also am a tad confused. I do not appreciate your PhD because it means nothing to me and usually very little to one's actual understanding of human behavior for the very reason you talked about, which is an arrogance (your feeling that it needed to be included means you think it is important and entitles you to, and means your opinion, deserves special recognition. It doesn't. What I do appreciate is you acknowledging the importance of the idea of "definitive" knowledge by voice & behavior analysts. Sadly this idea of "definitive" knowledge happens often in the psychological community to those who are not practicing medicine or psychology but attempting to use it and put it to some form of applied use where others take their assertions or suggestions (typically, the younger the person is the more arrogant they are about what they think they have just learned about psychology - my god, try even talking to someone just in psychology classes because they are already thinking they know everything and trying to put it to applicable use, which is dangerous - but anyway, young people act far more certain of their beliefs in what they assume is more certain knowledge about human behavior which is usually both because of the idea that classroom studies of human behavior are equal to even 1/10th of experience and because of that, sadly, for the first ten years after they get their degree, they have far too much confidence in forming ideas and opinions based off what they think they have learned, which is often just the fault of bad professors passing on bad traditional teaching methods) are given more weight than they should. Congratulations to the smart people who have actually read all the way to this portion without reading. Anyway, yes, it is good that they use "possibly" but personally, the suggestions of supposed "expert analysts" is used by this channel far too often and does make the mistake of putting way too much weight on it which is the same mistake professors make because the average person of course is going to take it and run with it as fact and if the politics of a certain individual over last few years and the reaction of that persons followers haven't shown just how gullible and easily manipulated most people are. So, I really think it is dangerous to not put some kind of more firm disclaimer when including this alleged behavioral analysis because I don't know if what they are saying is true and it is what an actual behavioral analysis told them when making this video, meaning they viewed this woman's behavior or if he is just trying to apply those techniques himself. If he does not have an expert viewing this footage and saying those words to him and is just repeating it like a recitation without having any experience himself with talking to and listening to and watching other individuals as they talk about themselves, people in their lives and their experiences for quite some time (and even then there is an issue of qualification for quantification). Therefore, one has to ascertain whether HIS analysis is more valuable than it could be misleading and depending on the way it may be stated, slanderous (especially if she is not guilty). Ultimately, even with a qualified (and quantified) expert, there should always be a "probably" which is something I know not form class but from both my intellectual and instinctive observations of people combined with my own psychological "disorder" that makes me more keen and aware of other people's behavior, actions, habits, and a lot of it is my brain etc.. I think the most important thing to remember is that everyone is different and unless you really know A LOT about that person life and their intellectual and psychological/emotional development through the very important years in which a child's brain is still forming and developing, both physiologically, which is MOSTLY about by eight years but then also psychologically which is actually more true through teen years and into a person's early 20s. The reason it is so dangerous when talking to children, teaching children and behaving around children in a reckless manner because they are not just sponges of information, they are sponges of behavior because brainwashing isn't even always intentional, which I will give an example of, but just you behavior can have a brainwashing like effect on young people. To try to explain why brainwashing is what it is and to make a comparison that people can understand as it pertains to just how brainwashing works and how hard it is to turn the effects off. I would say it is basically like you are wiring their brain to think one way about something in a similar way to as if someone was writing code into their brain like it is their operating system which makes it extremely hard and for some & seemingly impossible for others to change their opinion/feelings/perspective on whatever issue it is. For example, there is a reason priests, pastors, etc., ask you to bring your children into church and that is because they want to get them learning it as fact as they are still learning how to reason and if your parents agree to this, they are clearly rather religious in belief and so they get to not only hear it from their parents but then learn them at church and in that setting, for them, seems more official because it is this coming from this religious leader that your parents show great respect and trust in and so a child will believe they are safe (boy have we learned they weren't safe for so much and for so long from many of these religious "leaders)," and so your child starts to believe it too (and boy weren't they wrong - so many were not safe and in these situations I would suggest even now they aren't safe as I do not think children should be put into a religious cult but it is still done every day). Another example is molesters being overwhelmingly more likely to become a molester themselves and this comment is really wrong so to explain all of that as well as how children react to a lot of this stuff probably belongs in another comment but I think I made my point clear with the explanation and examples.
Oh, in fact, look at their disclaimer. It says they have had no formal diagnoses and that their "psychological analysis is based on the general behavior and traits of the people discussed." That's not right. Also, where do you learn this "never never give a 'definitive'." I ask because you said it in the same sentence as talking about their educational background as if you think that is something that is widely taught in psychology. Are you saying you learned that in college? I mean it is something I totally agree with but I am curious as to whether it was something you were taught or something you learned through experience. I also have OCD issues with human behavior and well, needing to learn anything I find out I don't know things about and right now I am curious about how someone who claims to have a PhD in Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior thinks about that. Also, are you saying you have a PhD in both forensic psychology and applied behavior? That's not a single field that you can get a PhD in, you know? Just saying. So you must have done a lot of SCHOOL. Meaning you must be pretty old to have experience, considered more important than schooling pretty much across the board. (Shrug)
I know this story well, I live in this community and it was a shock to everyone. She was calculating the murder in advance to cover her involvement with embezzlement. She was in charge of distributing money to people in need of housing assistance. Locally, her story unraveled quickly after her husbands body was recovered, and it was obvious that he was drugged. He husband was a stand up member of the community. Greed, pure and simple. The cover up was worse than the crime. So sad.
I believe a lot of the people in charge of distributing resources are corrupt and vile. Too often they are hired to help people in need but the steal from them and screw the system. Then if someone homeless robs them or also “takes advantage” of the system, they are quick to call them criminals. Hypocrites
What struck me is she didn't ask them if people were out looking for him. Her story that in her panic she couldn't find his cell phone was believabl, but from there her story fell apart. Expecially giving details without being asked.
Larry knew she was shady even though he claimed she was edgy & bold (in a good way) to have broken into her former employer's business to steal goods because she felt she was owed (prior to her embezzlement at the housing org.). That's criminal! And I'm pretty sure he would have learned from Lori's children that she made them kick their father out of their home while she hid in an upstairs closet. How cruel is this woman? Good thing investigators didn't chalk it up to an accident like the one investigator was heard saying which he should be embarrassed for saying.
I was accused an arrested for a crime I didn’t commit or have any knowledge of. It was a case of mistaken identity and the cops kept telling me these strangers I never heard of were saying I did this or that. I wasn’t concerned in the least as I had faith that no actual evidence tied me to whatever the thing was as I’d never been in trouble before. After a few hours it was cleared up and the cops apologized. Never did I resort to anything other than “no” or “yes” or “this is a mistake”
Yes it is a lot easier when you are completely unrelated to the victim and areas of incident. As you know it is ludicrous and wrong. Completely different game if you're well known to the victim and were close by or similar. Glad you had the former.
@@starstatusvillarreal3747 I guess the state of policing in America is on my shoulders. What fight to put up? It was pure mistaken identity. Furthermore I fight for our rights every day as a labor union leader, more than you do I’m guessing
@@payasoinfeliz I think certain types of vulnerable people are wrongfully convicted and there’s some motive by police or some coincidental evidence, not just they were looking for a specific person and thought I was this other specific person
I wonder how many seemingly "accidental" deaths are actually murders that the killer got away with by successfully acting distraught and horrified at the "accident"...
Same thing with cruise ships. Look up how many people go missing and they basically do nothing except note "we can't find them anymore." International waters. Kinda scary to be honest what these women will do....
I'm a newer fan. When I discovered your channel I binged ALL of it. Gotta be honest my favorite videos are the ones where this dude is narrating. Solid content
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Am a new fan.. THIS channel never disappoints me... And love it when this guy is narrating... Keep up all the good work. From the Caribbean... Much love ❤️
The amount of effort she put into planning this is rather terrifying. To think someone that “loves” the other could do this leaves me without words. Unbelievably evil. As always great content, love your channel!
Not to say that theft/fraud is the same as murder but I think it showed that she had a very diabolical mind. She stole a lot of money from an organization that had previously treated her very well. Her explanation of the theft was really lame. As if there is no other way to help out your children but steal. It really says a lot about her deviousness. I think she got desperate when her husband was about to find out about the theft. People with this kind of mindset become very dangerous when their evil side is about to be exposed. Her "perfect" marriage was about to go up in smoke.
Yeah. I am single because I no longer have much trust in humans . Dogs are far superior re friendship or family involvements- we do have seperate social lives and sleeping arrangements. if you should assume otherwise ( and insult us both)
It’s awesome how quick the kids picked up on the strange quirks about Lori after and the odd things she was saying or doing. Brains pick up on so many little intuitions quickly. Also I’m really glad you say that all of these strange quirks/actions of Lori can and can’t be signs of panic and lies. I was watching another UA-cam channel the other day try to breakdown a case and he literally said “see the suspect just blinked, blinking is a major sign of lying” 😂 as If it’s not required to see or survive lol. You actually show that it’s just a possibility that some of these signs are suspicious 👏🏻
Damn if blinking is considered suspicious then my uncle is hiding a whole bunch of shit. He has something called blepharospasm that makes his eyes twitch and blink a lot.
Offu1994 Exactly! I guess you have to piece together a bunch of tells after finding their baseline personality! It’s fascinating knowing I’ve done these things in meaningless or at least innocent situations! Gotta watch out for them now!
Single signs never mean anything, i think what they do is they look for clusters of 3+ behavior cues in a short span, that differ from the earlier observed baseline behavior
You sure fast blinking wasn't being described? I've heard of a fast blinking rate, but not just blinking. If that's the case, then we're all liars. Lol
I always feel a sense of relief when an EWU vid shows up in my feed....like "Yesssssss! I have some guaranteed good listening ahead!" .... I listen at work all day everyday...sometimes I actually have to sit and search for things....but with content like this it is an immediate winner. Thanks EWU!
Do you ever get the backlash of like "wait shit I shouldn't be excited, something terrible had to happen for this video to be made"? Not trying to start shit or anything, just curious. Also not trying to imply you should feel bad for enjoying these, obviously the shit is happening and this is just a documentary
Her story was she couldn't find his cell phone. Why wouldnt she have her own cell phone and I would check every nook looking for the cell phone knowing he didn't have it in his pocket. In 2 hours she didn't think to shake the blanket? Also don't boats come with a radio?
@@IceTTomforcing the relationship instead of letting go. Letting go and splitting assets. Versus "accidental death" and inheriting it all. Which is what she tried for.
@MrNinjaman63 how u meet them is how u leave them. I heard that years ago and have seen it come true in loads of relationships. U meet someone and they're cheating on their current squeeze, believe me the same is gonna happen 2 u.
this case is particularly haunting to me, as i used to struggle with an addiction to benadryl. it’s important to note that the highs are honestly quite terrifying. intense and often disturbing hallucinations, visual snow, strange sensations in the body; and to top all of that off, it quite literally feels like 50 lb weights are strapped to all of your limbs. it’s difficult to move, talk, or even think. often you become completely incoherent and unable to communicate. larry didnt just overdose and become drowsy and fall into death, he absolutely suffered before his death, and it’s chilling to think about.
How much would it take to feel these effects? The only thing I could find online as far as adverse effects are these symptoms: Side effects of DPH include drowsiness, dizziness, nausea, headache, muscle weakness, nervousness, dry mouth and constipation
I've watched a few videos covering this case but this is by far the best one yet, thank you for all your time and hard work! And may Larry rest in peace🙏
@@thomasjensen6243 Lol. She didn't say he couldn't say it. She said that now that he HAS said it, it will incriminate him. Relax. We're all having fun with his comment, it was a good one.
This WHOLE video premise is about opinion. They even have a disclaimer. All the statements about how someone looked or acted followed by it "could mean" or "it is theorized"? Those are OPINIONS. Opinions based on BS as a matter of fact because a recent study has proven that any supposed professional in body language or truth detection has merely 50% accuracy. The same a chance. It is interesting for sure, but pure truth, no not at all.
@@wearesavedbygodsgrac Yes I know. The narrator was constantly making assertations about how moving a foot indicated one type or another behavior. Its a faux science. He should just tell the story and stop trying to pretend he can interpret body language. It almost makes it unlistenable.
My hubby passed 6 years ago. I still haven’t gotten rid of ANYTHING that was his. His clothes are still hanging in his closet. His tools are still in the garage. His oxygen machine, hospital bed & wheelchair are all still here. His truck hasn’t moved & sets in the driveway & I’ve had TONS of offers on it. I can’t fathom getting rid of his things tbh. I know one day I’ll have to, but that day hasn’t come yet & I don’t foresee it in the near future either.
I sure hope that Larry's children were able to have the revised, forged will revoked and were able to inherit everything their father intended for them. The should not have to suffer the premature loss of their father, to murder, and also to lose their inheritance, all due to the nefarious actions of their step mother, Lori. What a terrible betrayal, of everyone in her life. Incredibly sad.
@@BlackStump172 No, Lori betrayed her first husband with three and Larry was one of them. There was never any mention if Larry was married at the time. (21:15)
@@BlackStump172 sounds like you would do this too. Didn’t even pay attention to the video. You defending her is suspicious and if I was your husband I would be terrified
This is one of the very best true crime channels ever, definitely my #1 favorite. I always make it part of my research while working on a case & have found many stories I've never heard of before. The quality and detail are better than any network or cable television I've seen, you bring it to the next level. I first became addicted to this channel by watching the interrogation evaluations, those are spot on and without equal. These stories need to be told, it's an important job telling them and this channel does that with dignity & integrity. EWU is a vital part of the true crime community, thank you for all you contribute.
@@computeraidedyami It definitely was. Her incredibly long and detailed responses to the 911 operator and the police for very simple questions were huge red flags. She changed her story several times about different events that occurred. She decided to drive around and look for him in the water for over two hours rather than go to the shore to get help because she was “afraid she would forget where she was when he fell over” and didn’t attempt to look for his cell phone until she apparently got cold and found it under a blanket. Her crying started and stopped immediately whenever she felt the need to turn off the waterworks. She was oddly happy and smiling when the police came to see her at the hospital and told her they still didn’t recover his body. There’s plenty of other very obvious things she said or did that made it clear she was hiding something, but I think those are enough.
I knew it was her at the very start of the video. Her distressed call had no chilling vibe. Whenever there's something a person is panicking, you can tell it by something that goes into your mind and body. I don't know how to explain but I've been getting all these judgements of these kinda case spot on
It's very dangerous to believe you have the ability to read into whether or not somebody's lying by their tone of voice or body language. This sort of thing has resulted in people being falsely imprisoned many times. Gut feelings are fine, but it's important we stick to the evidence and there was more than enough in this case that we don't need to try and armchair psychoanalyse the 911 call.
It’s funny how all the people that say “I knew it immediately” usually just say this after the facts come out and it is impossible to know that they are wrong. It’s very easy to pretend you’re more intelligent than you are by referring to past events that other people missed and claiming that “you knew right away”
EWU has to be my absolute favorite True Crime channel ever! They never leave out any details and i LOVE it. I watch these videos everyday while cleaning, reading, etc. This channel definitely needs more attention.
Every clip you watch involving a 911 call you hear the dumbest responses you could imagine after some poor person is trying to relate a horrific incident......It's excruciating to listen to.
I remember when all this happened, I've lived in Coeur d'alene since '98 and it's a small town feel where everyone knew everyone and words spread fast, most of us already knew she had something to do with it. I appreciate you putting the interview clips up though! I've never seen those! You guys always make such great content!!!
@@oliviastar3812 just by the people I associate with, we figured just by the statements and the situation in general, we figured she had something to do with it... it was very suspicious
The amount of research and dedication that you guys put into each and every single one of your cases is truly mind blowing and much appreciated. There are a lot of UA-cam channels out there that do not have the correct facts and research. Thank you guys for providing us with 100% facts I am honestly a huge supporter of all your channels! Even got my husband hooked on it and he doesn’t really like true crime lol keep the gems coming! 💙💜💙💜
For all my veteran true crime enthusiasts...we all know that opening 911 call was as BS as it gets. People greatly overestimate their acting skills and ability to compile a tight alibi. Imagine being some regular lady doing regular things a woman like this does, no in-depth knowledge of how investigations works, and then decide to kill your husband like this, initiating a full investigation against you by a group of people who's job it is to solve crimes. She was doomed from the start. Smoked!!!
@@thatrunawayguy3555 I'll give ya that. But that 911 call..oof. Plus I'm already looking at her with a suspicious eye because the nature of the vid. When you listen to so so many of these calls you start to develop a sense for what's authentic and what's not.
Agreed! Even the one about that actor guy in California, he did a terrible job of acting, when he killed a guy for his Veteran pay from the military, and then a random girl to throw off the trail. It's gotta come down to their narcissistic/antisocial disorders
@@MsMichigan Ahhh yes, I couldn't think of his name so had to relook that one up. Daniel Wozniak. A complete desperate narcissist. Made for some good true crime entertainment though!
@@LafeJames yes! That's him.... he was just a disgusting human....I mean, they all are, that do this.... but something about him, really made me wanna punch him in the face. I'd make sure he'd have a broken nose for his "wedding" (and I don't condone violence, but that's how upset I was when I lear about him😡🤮)
It's wild to me how many insane people just kind of blend into society, not only do they blend in, but they PROSPER, they have families, houses, careers, and they pull some shit like this. Its really scary. I'm not a murderous embezzler and yet I don't have half the things that she had, no family, no career...It actually makes me furious to see people like her attain all the good things in life while I struggle to have basic "normalcy". Failing upwards I guess is what people call it, and it seems to happen A LOT.
This woman is 66. She is a boomer. The economy was pretty decent while she was growing up. Easy to have a house and career. Family is also pretty easy, just get someone pregnant or get pregnant. Boom there you go. Family.
You guys NEVER disappoint! Definitely one of my favorite YT channels. I love the analysis and the fact that the cases are so meticulously broken down and studied..it's absolutely fascinating to see what makes people "tick". I look forward to every upland....you guys are AWESOME!!
Losing some some one is awful. After my husband's funeral had people over to my house to take whatever they wanted. Because I knew if I didn't it would kill me to see daily. Even his bed. I didn't cry at the funeral. I cried for a minute in icu that was so loud that a couple of nurses started to cry. He was my best friend. I cried two months later when going through the checkout when the cashier asked me how I was doing today. So embarrassing to think about it as the young worker didn't know how to handle my reaction. My mom just died in May and I cry almost daily. There's no right way to process the pain. This woman's story was ridiculous, glad the cops didn't believe her. prayers to her children.
Bless your heart. I'm so sorry you lost your husband. I can't imagine the pain you've been going through. My heart broke when I read your comment, God bless and keep you. Prayers for you, dear.
I just attended a "celebration" of my oldest uncle. My parents and grandparents are all dead. We celebrate the love and happy memories, and don't dwell on the cause of death. And yes, we are Irish and maybe might drink a bit at the celebration/ memorial lol
Same here, when my nan, who was very much the matriarch of the family, died, me and my cousin (we grew up living with my nan so were very close with her) visited her in the chapel of rest and the first thing we said was " Well Nan, at least now we can get a word in!" 😂 We were laughing and remembering and the funeral director (who was waiting in the other room) said it was great to hear laughter from a family in mourning ❤️
If it was a natural death yes. Like the case of terminal cancer that would ended the suffering of him or her. But if it was the homicide the cause of death, the emotion of grief is totally different. Piece of advice just be very very careful about your written testament for your wealth. This would be your top secret.
@Lemonade why did you erased your comments here? You told me that nobody asked my piece of advice here (I've said this base in my experienced). I listen the whole story here. What was the real motive of killing her husband? Was the money right? And her husband's life insurance, wealth and his testament. But her husband changed his testament before he was murdered. When she knew about it.The wife took revenge maybe? And she did the embezzlement of $500k at her work which was unknown to her husband. So she decided to kill her husband to pay her crime of $500k. She did good planning but there was no a perfect crime! She won't get away the expertise of the investigators and the modern technology today, forensic, autopsy, DNA etc.
Originally a 911 dispatcher. Best job i ever had. I am the kind that empathized and made sure i extended compassion. I imagined holding my hand out to callers to help calm them down. I CAN attest to the fact that others ( except for 2) were extremely curt, harsh and responded with impatience. It is a high turn over rate. Also not many people applying for the position are able to pass background checks, drug tests nor credit checks ( this would show how responsible the individual was). So of course they were not fired. When i hear the 911 calls i cringe at the attitudes in the voices AND above all the total lack of active listening. I agree with another comment viewer that 999 in the UK are very professional, calm and respectful.
My son’s father drowned 2 yrs ago and I still find his death super suspicious. He went fishing and long story short he was supposedly alone, but a 12 pack of bud light was on ice in the cabinet of the boat with 6 missing but no alcohol was in his system.
I'm so sorry. I wonder if they performed an autopsy on him and if they found water in his lungs because they determined this victim didn't drown because he had no water in his lungs. My condolences.🌺💓
EWU will always stand as one of the best true crime content creators on this platform. They’ve invested a lot of their time, effort, and hard work into making true crime videos, and I call that genuine dedication and commitment. Stay strong, EWU Crew.
The Behavior Panel says that people who make 911 calls and start storytelling are probably the perpetrator. They say innocent 911 callers are desperate to seek help...keep asking for help. This lady was storytelling.
Not really a good actor, I guessed straightaway that she was the murderer because she had her whole story down pat. A man would probably be fooled by her though. Men don't realise how deceptive women can be. Other women know just how cruel other women can be, and how manipulative they can be, with fake crying and fake hysteria. It's very easy for women to raise their voices and swing their arms around, and most women can fake cry and get sympathy. Women manipulate men as much as they can when they want to get their own way, because most women will not win a fistfight with a man. So they have to learn how to win a fight sneakily by very devious means. Most men have no idea what women are actually capable of.
I know this sounds cliche but I'm being serious! The fact that you have uploaded 2 videos (one yesterday & 1 today) one to each channel literally brings me and my fiance something we both enjoy to watch when the kids settle for bed. So honestly thank you for still having that desire to bring content! Also a side note I really enjoy your use of body language and how much its utilised. I literally notice the things in learn from here IRL. Thanks again!
@@ericperez1280 the way she said it could be interpreted as her asking for a lawyer. A good lawyer would have been able to argue that in court. The minute she said that he should have stopped asking her questions and asked if she wanted her lawyer. Cases have been overturned, and verdicts for cops not stopping questioning when people have said "I think I need a lawyer now". People ask for things differently. But you could tell she knew not to talk. She obviously knew if it went to trial she'd be convicted. That's why she took a plea deal. Edit: Grammar and spelling.
It’s so scary to think people who proclaim to love each other and are in the years where they should just want to settle down and enjoy life , scare to think how evil thoughts and just enter the mind , Thank you guys ,Family
Never trust anyone who would benefit from you being harmed. Most spouses (especially wives who stand to gain life insurances and sympathy, making people less suspicious of them) stand to gain in this manner
She was evil for her whole life. Cheated three times with ex husband, fraud. She just finally got caught. Might not be the first one to die around her either
I live where this case takes place, crazy such a terrible thing happened in our small town. First time we’ve had something like this happen, to my knowledge. Thanks for covering this case!
I still don't understand how people think they can get away with murder... They think they above the authorities. Thank you Raven and EWU crew... You always entertain me with your stories👍💕🙏
@@RicoLikes2Talk according to what/who? the good thing about that, if it is true, is that they can always be solved in the future. many crimes end up being solved when they are looked into with different eyes & technology, etc.
@@jenniej0an only about 1/3 of murder cases are ever solved. Even if the murders ARE solved, it doesnt mean the suspect will be charged. It can be extremely difficult to convict, even if it's OBVIOUS who the murderer is.
@@jenniej0an it depends on the area largely. My mother’s first husband was found dead in a quarry with a bungee chord wrapped around his neck about 30 years ago and it went unsolved and was labeled an “accident”. Another man was dropped off in front of the local police station with his neck slashed when I was a small child. Also unsolved. This is small town Indiana. So I don’t know how much that effects the statistic but I personally know of quite a few murder cases that weren’t solved and likely won’t be.
One point that needs correction: an oral dose of 100-1000ng (nanogram) of diphenhydramine (Benadryl) probably doesn’t even cross the threshold into a microdose. I think you either meant an oral dose of 100-1000mg (milligram) OR the 100-1000ng (nanogram) refers to some sort of concentration per unit of blood/plasma.
Looks like the LD50 (dose at which 50% of people taking it will die) is 10.2mg/kg. If her husband was average size, let’s say 165lbs (75kg), then the LD50 dose would be 765mg or about 30 Benadryl pills (typically 25mg each).
Okay. The murder was very bad, the investigation was good. But there's something else on my mind. I want to know why a "housing coalition" (whatever that may be) is getting its hands on so much money that it doesn't notice for a considerable time that $500,000 has gone missing.
A very good example of a very bored 911 dispatcher who has BIG listening challenges. Someone could bleed to death before she would "get" the issue at hand!!!
They need to get the location of the incident so that someone can be sent out ASAP. Emergency operators aren't daycare workers, emotion is of no value at that particular moment. Let's also not forget that the women on the other end of the call had just murdered someone, but hey...
You do realize that even though she’s still getting info, she has already dispatched first responders don’t you?? It always makes me laugh when you guys give them shit or even the callers saying “hurry! Send an ambulance” or whatever! I mean, that’s most definitely the 1st thing they do even before they have a proper destination even. They’ve already getting them prepped then they give them the location as soon as they have it. They don’t have to tell EMS with their mouths for them to head out! Here in the future we have computers that allow us to multitask…🤣
It's always crazier when the crime happened in a tiny town you used to live in...Rarely do stories come out of ID, let alone CDA. Sadly I had a friend that was murdered in CDA back in late 2009-early 2010. His name was Timothy Shackleford (23) and he was found after an anonymous tip came into the police of "a man unconscious on a residential street, after falling" out of a moving car." He was brought into Kootenai County Hospital where they found his BAL (blood alcohol level} was .28, but he had NO marks, dirt, or scrapes consistent with falling out of a moving car. He woke up while in the hospital but couldn't remember what happened. He fell into a coma shortly after waking up, and died a few days later due to a brain aneurysm. My ex SIL was his nurse and was the one that took his vitals and blood when he first came into the hospital. She had absolutely no idea he was my friend until I mentioned his death a few months later. She has vouched that he did not have any injuries consistent with what the anonymous tip claimed. I've looked into his case, and the CDA police department has done little to piece it together.
I live (born and grew up, never left) in CDA and I remeber when that happened to your friend, nobody ever said what happened and it just disappeared out of the news. The CDA Police can be extremely useless here unfortunately. And I'm not against law enforcement, 2 of my family members are officers but the department in this town is awful and everyone knows it. I'm honestly surprised they even solved this case, and I don't think it would have if they didn't find his body and the evidence didn't lay itself out right in front of them.
Got to love every single piece of documentary and other type of videos you guys put up on all of your channels!! Shout out to EWU Crew for the amazing effort to put up video for us.
FYI diphenhydramine is also VERY commonly used for seasickness prevention and it’s not at all unusual to have it with you on a boat. In fact, it’s the smart thing to do and could even be expected. Now I’m only 7 minutes in so I’m not saying anything about anyone’s guilt or innocence or anything, just wanting to point out that that alone is NOT even remotely suggestive of anything, and that seasickness is one of the main things diphenhydramine is meant to treat, because this video failed to mention it. It’s also considered basically the gold standard for serious allergies despite potentially causing drowsiness because it’s still much more effective than the non-drowsy allergy medicines. Also, if using it regularly (for example daily or near daily for allergies) most people eventually sort of “adjust” to the drug and side effects such as drowsiness diminish and/or eventually stop occurring altogether. And even if it DOES make you drowsy, it isn’t going to just full on knock you out like rohypnol or something, you won’t black out or be unable to wake up completely, you’ll just be kind of groggy. It’s nowhere near strong enough of a sedative to reliably use it to commit murder. I’m pointing this out because I love how this channel makes sure to make people understand how certain behaviors and things do NOT automatically mean someone is guilty and goes on the explain other reasons why someone might do/have/say something that could potentially be viewed as suspicious, but this part was missed.
When the cop says she just answered my questions without me asking them, should have made him think the opposite not that shes innocent.. these officers scare me sometimes man.. to many of them are hired way to easily and so many of them don’t even know the laws they’re enforcing.. but he literally says u know a lot seemed off but then i talked to her and she had all the answers so u know what she’s innocent LOL WHAAAT.. makes u wonder how many cases they said were an accident and it really was not Im not done with the video yet so idk what happens but i can bet shes guilty of something
You are the absolute best at what you do !! The layout of your videos is so unique, which in today’s world, that’s not easy !!! I love the way it all ties together in the end and how you add dry humor in at the least expected time. 😂 Thanks so much for being here, you keep a lot of us entertained for hours !! ❤❤
my dad is a retired detective and he told me were trained so well to deal with lying that the only person who possibly could possibly fool a detective is another detective
The word “Detective” doesn’t make u good at catching liars yes u learn but to be fool ANYBODY high iq or not you must have a strong brain. Interigation is a game of chess, crime is a game of chess
If that were true then we wouldn’t have so many innocent people getting locked up and we certainly wouldn’t have so many guilty people walking free…🤷🏾♂️ Ps. Regarding the bit about it taking intelligence to be a proficient liar…I’ve known a couple of epic liars in my time and they happened to be painfully stupid at the same time!
I just don’t get how people can just take someone’s life and think they are supposed to live happily ever after. Not to mention are willing to give up their freedom. I remember I spent 3.5 hours in jail because some asshole dropped their weed in my car. I thought I would was going crazy. And people are actually willing to do life?Taking somebody’s love ones life and losing yours is just not worth it. Sip Larry!
That's my issue with an Alford plea... although convicted of the crime, the defendant can claim innocence and spin any sort of story they like. It's disingenuous and insulting to the victim and their loved ones. Either plead guilty or face a jury.
props to her being a good storyteller though. listening to a lot of crimes and their alibis, most sound bs and ridiculous. this ones believable af. she managed to fill in the holes
@11:39 "Lori wasn't considered a suspect", yet her interactions with the police were later used as evidence against her. .... If anything happened to my wife, whether she fell overboard, disappeared unexpectedly, died in a freak accident, or died any other way that led to the police being involved, I wouldn't agree to an interview or other open-ended meeting with the police, such as assisting in a search, without advice from my attorney.
Which is what everyone should do, its crazy though how many people are in a situation like that and do in fact speak to police without a laywer... It should be common sense by now but it isn't.
@@jannasmith3275yes! It blows my mind whenever I see a cop and once even a homicide detective being interrogated and they don’t demand a lawyer or invoke the 5th…
This woman was beyond manipulative. She even got her daughters involved - the people she is supposed to protect with her life. I'm glad they only got house arrest, but I believe they still now have felony records since it was 1 year. She ruined a lot of lives and with nothing more than a shrug and a "I didn't do it" for explanation. Guys - don't marry the woman you are cheating on your wife with - she might be this lady...
@@Potato-lp5ijthat’s not the point. I’m pretty sure OP’s statement regarding the cheating woman was tongue in cheek…. Question, do you always have trouble with sarcasm and social cues and that sort of thing..?
The announcer forgot to mention one important fact about diphenhydramine. It is also a sleep aid when used in larger doses. It is so effective that some states made it a DUI for using it.
When she said “I’ve been looking for him for hours” I automatically didn’t believe her. Why would you wait hours to call the police if you felt he was in danger?!
She claimed to not know where the phone was....
For sure. Also, there isn't really any "looking for someone" if they fall off a boat. On an open lake you can see for days in about every direction. If the person isn't in immediate view, the only sensible thing to do is call for help. And if you don't have a phone the most sensible thing is to go find someone who does and use theirs. Aimlessly wandering about the lake would be like running to the medicine cabinet to fetch a band-aide because someone caught on fire.
Whatt?>>> you don't believe her??? I trusted her the moment she said "omg miss my husband had a stroke out here on 'the lake'....... ope and btw... i forgot to tell you: he fell in the water; he's gone, he's dead and after i hang up, i'm going to throw this phone in the lake". How could you be more genuine?
Yeah.
I agree. There’s no way she’s innocent. Why wouldn’t she jump in and grab him? If my husband looked like he had a stroke and fell into a lake I would be over that rail before he hit the water. Not “looking for him” for HOURS.
That cop in the beginning making sure everyone balanced the need for an investigation with the possibly real victims emotional state was a damn champ.
It's because he wants to be able to manipulate the truth out of you, does not care one but about a murderers boo hoos
ACAB
It’s sad when basic human kindness is so rare that we need to applaud it. But I agree.
What about that other detective that said her interviewed Lorie and this was 💯 an accident? wtf??
@@RXbee2 imagine how bad / ignorant he might feel now fhfh
The cop in the beginnings attitude and professionalism was admirable. RIP Larry 😞
My friend Joe has been looking for Larry for close to ten years
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@@3dguy839 Thank you for that laugh. I saw a kid at Walmart running through the parking lot yelling, LARRRRYYYY! 🤣
Agreed
Larry’s kids pushing the fact that “something was off” helped a great deal to put doubt of her innocence in the police investigation I’m sure.
Her saying she was looking for him for hours but never thought about calling 911?
Immediately fishy
Or maybe everyone noticed the same obvious problems with her story? Do we really need armchair psychology to figure out why the cops didn't accept her at face value?
@@meepk633Maybe, maybe not, maybe keep your negativity to yourself.
@@meepk633the biggest giveaway was her atrocious acting in the 911 call. That sounded so fake. No emotion. Really dry
@@anubispup4760Negativity??? No, that’s called him or her having at least one working brain cell. Oh, sorry. You wouldn’t know anything about that. Apologies.
This is the clearest and cleanest interrogation footage I've ever seen. They're one of the few departments that doesn't use "convenience store cameras" from 1993 AND it's at sitting level and not bird's eye view.
This lady is trifling and sick. She really thought she could outsmart the coroner and forensics team. smh
You said trifling.... And I'm loving it
Nikita Don Diva: This is so true. The clearest and best.
You know this police force is about doing extremely good business. No one can say we can’t see.
Beautiful, clear and bright.
Trifling is the perfect description!!!
Ayyye shoutout to Idaho lol
I think she was really hoping that Larry would never be found. I would just like to know what happened to him a bit more. She killed him in the house and then somehow dragged him to the river and then pretended a while boating excursion with him but really she just took the boat out by herself? I think she had to have help to move him if that we the case. Not exactly the same as catching someone off balance and then going over when it's dead weight.. poor guy.
What "INSANE Twist?" Is the title just bait? A twist would be if he turned up alive with amnesia after she was arrested. But this was just a straightforward murder story.
Little man went to college. What degree? Computer science? Law?
😂😂😂😂or faked hìs unalivement
@MLKKK-vk5bi No need to be bitter. He’s right. Plot twist it’s something completely unexpected. Bait.
Thank you for this
I think that the insane twist was that she was doing financial fraud at the place that she worked, which led to her murdering her husband.
95 times out of 100 the cops would have taken Lori's word and immediately closed the case with no investigation at all. Especially in a big city. Small town police have enough time to investigate if they care enough. Props to these cops for caring.
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Agree 👏
Not true at all! Family is ALWAYS a suspect, and are scrutinized to the nth degree. Your opinion is far from fact🙄
The autopsy is why they investigated her. Without that she would have got away with it
I'd say it's the opposite. Small town police is pretty biased and influenced by gossip. Countless of cases where innocents were convicted and lives ruined due to police thinking "it's gotta be x person", or criminals let free due to police not believing x could do this.
As soon as she said “ he fell in the water and I’ve been searching for him for *hours* “ that dude was murdered
Same. He has a stroke? Call the ambulance. He falls in? Call the ambulance. Instead you search, for not minutes, but HOURS. I knew she was guilty from that single sentence.
@@Koselill exactly!
Even before that she was fake crying and I was like she did it lol. Then she said that shit and I was like that's enough for a warrant as far as I'm concerned
Yep, me too
As a surf life guard at on of Australia’s most dangerous beaches, I’ve seen/rescued many unconscious people from the water, not only in the ocean, but at the fresh water river. When someone falls unconscious into the water, naturally they float until the air in their lungs is replaced with water. They don’t just disappear and sink. It’s an impossibility from the get go.
I too was a life guard at Presque Isle Beach on Lake Erie in North West Pennsylvania, and while what you're saying is true, I've also seen people sink immediately. There are several factors that come into play, like a person's mental state, their body composition and water density. Heavier, high-salinity water, like the Dead Sea, or even the great Salt Lake can help people float. Salt is denser than the average person, so it's easier to float higher in saltier water. But in Lakes there's very little, if no salt at all, which would make a person sink easier.
Definitely. Unless they are wearing concrete shoes.
Fellow Aussie here, and you are 100% correct 🙌🏼
My first thought exactly.
@@jamieluce5808 Nah, Salt water and Lake water have very different Buoyancies. People float easier in salt water, and sink easier in Lakes with little to no Salt.
“She answered every question without me asking the questions”
Erm.. good sir I feel like a victim of shock wouldn’t have every detail of the story worked out to the point of leaving an investigator questionless. She knew just what to tell you. 😅
Right??
That guy had terrible instincts! "Yeah, kids, this was a total accident." He needs to be forced to do an intensive refresher course of some kind.
@@tranquilrabies - I guess that would depend on the person. About 18 yrs ago my late husband & I went camping in the mountains in Calif. We were only there one night. The next morning we went gold panning in the river. Long story short, even though the guy who showed us how to pan for gold helped me do cpr and paramedics worked on him all the way, after I made it to the hospital I was informed he didn't make it. I was able to tell the coroner everything that happened. It wasn't until afterwards that I couldn't remember things. For the life of me I couldn't remember my sister-in-law's last name (their phone was in her name). An ombudsman was helping me. It finally hit me that she was the advertising director of a major restaurant chain so we were able to call them and they knew who she was by her first name. Then later I couldn't remember how to write a "b" and kept writing "d" (I had to write each letter of the alphabet before I remembered). Anyway, I could recall every minute (seemed like it) of what happened, but not other things. Was scary.
@@tranquilrabies Not really. At that point they hadn't even recovered the body yet, so they didn't even know what the cause of death was. Up to this point it was still entirely possible that it was just an accident as she claimed.
That guy was so dumb. I bet he was a little embarrassed 😳 for being wrong. He sounded so sure too lol 😆 " This was an accident as far as I can tell" . Thank God he wasn't the only one that was on the case.
Has a “stroke” and “falls in the water” and she searches for “hours”. 🚩
Yeah that was the moment I knew she'd killed him.
My exact thoughts
If your spouse has a medical emergency and falls out of a boat, how long is it appropriate to search? Is "hours" too long, or not long enough? 🤔
Exactly what i thought .
@@pulaski1 I mean, realistically, how would you even go about looking? unless she jumped in, she very well could have called while searching. personally I would have been too scared to even remember I had a phone, I'm sure
The whole “I swear on my life” thing is so true, my ex boyfriend stole over $400 from my neighbors house and when confronted said he “swore on his papas life” he didn’t steal it. He did steal it and gave it back only after the neighbors threatened to get the police involved. People are crazy with their lies.
When I was seven, I was at Walmart with my dad. While he was checking out, he gave me a few dollars to go to the game area by the front doors. I played the claw machine and pulled out a mini backpack. I went back into the store to my dad as he was walking away from the checkout lane. We got to the door and a guy stopped us and asked to see the receipt. Apparently the checkout lady saw me with the bag and thought I was stealing it. I told him I won it at the machine. My dad asked me if I was telling the truth and I remember I said “I swear I’m telling the truth” and started crying. We waited a bit and the guy came back with the bag and said “Sorry about the misunderstanding. This isn’t in our system and we watched the footage. He was telling the truth.”
Soooo…what was that about swearing? Something about it always being a lie right? Yea…that’s not always the case.
One of just how many have you had really. What's your body count just curious dats all
@@reddragon771 I called off work one day and the guy that covered me got caught in the machine. So…one?
@@reddragon771seek help
Did you had a good ex-boyfriend 😢😢
The fact she drugged him with dph is so sad. Dph in high quantities causes horrible nightmarish hallucinations and a delirious state. Not to mention the physical reactions are horrible. This poor man
Truly evil
Whaaattt? Benadryl can do that??
The only adverse effects I could find are drowsiness, dizziness, nausea, headache, muscle weakness, nervousness, dry mouth and constipation
@@gonegirl3577 if taken in very large doses.
@@gonegirl3577 those are the adverse effects if you take the normal dosage.
As someone with my PhD in Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior I have to give credit where credit is due. I do not know your education background of course but, the way you describe things and draw attention to and NEVER EVER give a "definitive" and use could be, could possibly be. I have been addicted to your channel and have binge watched! Great job!
I appreciate your comment but also am a tad confused. I do not appreciate your PhD because it means nothing to me and usually very little to one's actual understanding of human behavior for the very reason you talked about, which is an arrogance (your feeling that it needed to be included means you think it is important and entitles you to, and means your opinion, deserves special recognition. It doesn't.
What I do appreciate is you acknowledging the importance of the idea of "definitive" knowledge by voice & behavior analysts. Sadly this idea of "definitive" knowledge happens often in the psychological community to those who are not practicing medicine or psychology but attempting to use it and put it to some form of applied use where others take their assertions or suggestions (typically, the younger the person is the more arrogant they are about what they think they have just learned about psychology - my god, try even talking to someone just in psychology classes because they are already thinking they know everything and trying to put it to applicable use, which is dangerous - but anyway, young people act far more certain of their beliefs in what they assume is more certain knowledge about human behavior which is usually both because of the idea that classroom studies of human behavior are equal to even 1/10th of experience and because of that, sadly, for the first ten years after they get their degree, they have far too much confidence in forming ideas and opinions based off what they think they have learned, which is often just the fault of bad professors passing on bad traditional teaching methods) are given more weight than they should.
Congratulations to the smart people who have actually read all the way to this portion without reading.
Anyway, yes, it is good that they use "possibly" but personally, the suggestions of supposed "expert analysts" is used by this channel far too often and does make the mistake of putting way too much weight on it which is the same mistake professors make because the average person of course is going to take it and run with it as fact and if the politics of a certain individual over last few years and the reaction of that persons followers haven't shown just how gullible and easily manipulated most people are. So, I really think it is dangerous to not put some kind of more firm disclaimer when including this alleged behavioral analysis because I don't know if what they are saying is true and it is what an actual behavioral analysis told them when making this video, meaning they viewed this woman's behavior or if he is just trying to apply those techniques himself. If he does not have an expert viewing this footage and saying those words to him and is just repeating it like a recitation without having any experience himself with talking to and listening to and watching other individuals as they talk about themselves, people in their lives and their experiences for quite some time (and even then there is an issue of qualification for quantification). Therefore, one has to ascertain whether HIS analysis is more valuable than it could be misleading and depending on the way it may be stated, slanderous (especially if she is not guilty).
Ultimately, even with a qualified (and quantified) expert, there should always be a "probably" which is something I know not form class but from both my intellectual and instinctive observations of people combined with my own psychological "disorder" that makes me more keen and aware of other people's behavior, actions, habits, and a lot of it is my brain etc.. I think the most important thing to remember is that everyone is different and unless you really know A LOT about that person life and their intellectual and psychological/emotional development through the very important years in which a child's brain is still forming and developing, both physiologically, which is MOSTLY about by eight years but then also psychologically which is actually more true through teen years and into a person's early 20s. The reason it is so dangerous when talking to children, teaching children and behaving around children in a reckless manner because they are not just sponges of information, they are sponges of behavior because brainwashing isn't even always intentional, which I will give an example of, but just you behavior can have a brainwashing like effect on young people. To try to explain why brainwashing is what it is and to make a comparison that people can understand as it pertains to just how brainwashing works and how hard it is to turn the effects off. I would say it is basically like you are wiring their brain to think one way about something in a similar way to as if someone was writing code into their brain like it is their operating system which makes it extremely hard and for some & seemingly impossible for others to change their opinion/feelings/perspective on whatever issue it is.
For example, there is a reason priests, pastors, etc., ask you to bring your children into church and that is because they want to get them learning it as fact as they are still learning how to reason and if your parents agree to this, they are clearly rather religious in belief and so they get to not only hear it from their parents but then learn them at church and in that setting, for them, seems more official because it is this coming from this religious leader that your parents show great respect and trust in and so a child will believe they are safe (boy have we learned they weren't safe for so much and for so long from many of these religious "leaders)," and so your child starts to believe it too (and boy weren't they wrong - so many were not safe and in these situations I would suggest even now they aren't safe as I do not think children should be put into a religious cult but it is still done every day). Another example is molesters being overwhelmingly more likely to become a molester themselves and this comment is really wrong so to explain all of that as well as how children react to a lot of this stuff probably belongs in another comment but I think I made my point clear with the explanation and examples.
Oh, in fact, look at their disclaimer. It says they have had no formal diagnoses and that their "psychological analysis is based on the general behavior and traits of the people discussed." That's not right. Also, where do you learn this "never never give a 'definitive'." I ask because you said it in the same sentence as talking about their educational background as if you think that is something that is widely taught in psychology. Are you saying you learned that in college? I mean it is something I totally agree with but I am curious as to whether it was something you were taught or something you learned through experience. I also have OCD issues with human behavior and well, needing to learn anything I find out I don't know things about and right now I am curious about how someone who claims to have a PhD in Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior thinks about that. Also, are you saying you have a PhD in both forensic psychology and applied behavior? That's not a single field that you can get a PhD in, you know? Just saying. So you must have done a lot of SCHOOL. Meaning you must be pretty old to have experience, considered more important than schooling pretty much across the board. (Shrug)
@@aaronsmith7946 you uhh, forgot to close a bracket.
@@aaronsmith7946 are you ok?
@@aaronsmith7946 classic case of TL, DR
I know this story well, I live in this community and it was a shock to everyone. She was calculating the murder in advance to cover her involvement with embezzlement. She was in charge of distributing money to people in need of housing assistance.
Locally, her story unraveled quickly after her husbands body was recovered, and it was obvious that he was drugged. He husband was a stand up member of the community. Greed, pure and simple. The cover up was worse than the crime. So sad.
I believe a lot of the people in charge of distributing resources are corrupt and vile. Too often they are hired to help people in need but the steal from them and screw the system. Then if someone homeless robs them or also “takes advantage” of the system, they are quick to call them criminals. Hypocrites
Murder is the worst crime a human can commit, and the cover up is definitely not worse. Shitty take brah
@@dr.hairbrain1486I assume he meant that the publicity the cover up got was worse than the initial death
@@dr.hairbrain1486username checks out.
What struck me is she didn't ask them if people were out looking for him. Her story that in her panic she couldn't find his cell phone was believabl, but from there her story fell apart. Expecially giving details without being asked.
Larry knew she was shady even though he claimed she was edgy & bold (in a good way) to have broken into her former employer's business to steal goods because she felt she was owed (prior to her embezzlement at the housing org.). That's criminal!
And I'm pretty sure he would have learned from Lori's children that she made them kick their father out of their home while she hid in an upstairs closet. How cruel is this woman?
Good thing investigators didn't chalk it up to an accident like the one investigator was heard saying which he should be embarrassed for saying.
That officer who being so aware of being kind and supportive is absolutely amazing.
Basic human kindness, but shocking come from a cop.
Can we clone him??
And rare .
@@danarzechula3769no to damn soft shhhh the killer will hear us what an idiot
@@LostME.24not rare more like dumb shhhhhh the killer will hear us what an idiot super rare idiot
I was accused an arrested for a crime I didn’t commit or have any knowledge of. It was a case of mistaken identity and the cops kept telling me these strangers I never heard of were saying I did this or that. I wasn’t concerned in the least as I had faith that no actual evidence tied me to whatever the thing was as I’d never been in trouble before. After a few hours it was cleared up and the cops apologized. Never did I resort to anything other than “no” or “yes” or “this is a mistake”
Yes it is a lot easier when you are completely unrelated to the victim and areas of incident. As you know it is ludicrous and wrong.
Completely different game if you're well known to the victim and were close by or similar.
Glad you had the former.
And that's why nothing changes, you didn't put up a fight.
@@starstatusvillarreal3747 I guess the state of policing in America is on my shoulders. What fight to put up? It was pure mistaken identity. Furthermore I fight for our rights every day as a labor union leader, more than you do I’m guessing
You are lucky. Lots of people are wrongfully convicted.
@@payasoinfeliz I think certain types of vulnerable people are wrongfully convicted and there’s some motive by police or some coincidental evidence, not just they were looking for a specific person and thought I was this other specific person
I wonder how many seemingly "accidental" deaths are actually murders that the killer got away with by successfully acting distraught and horrified at the "accident"...
Definitely a solid amount. More so in mega populated cities where there is tons of deaths every day.
My husband had a stroke and I pushed him... ummm.. he fell over..
Only women get away with this tactic.
Same thing with cruise ships. Look up how many people go missing and they basically do nothing except note "we can't find them anymore." International waters. Kinda scary to be honest what these women will do....
Way more than we would like to know. The same for suicides.
I'm a newer fan. When I discovered your channel I binged ALL of it. Gotta be honest my favorite videos are the ones where this dude is narrating. Solid content
Have you seen their other channels?!? They have a few! Including excellent JCS style interrogation analysis!!!
Don't miss out on the rest of their content/ channels! These guys are impressive 👏 🙌 👌 😍
Same
The second i hear the narrator isnt this guy, I exit the video immediately.
Raven.... The one n only🥰🥰🥰
Am a new fan.. THIS channel never disappoints me... And love it when this guy is narrating... Keep up all the good work. From the Caribbean... Much love ❤️
30:13 and still waiting on that insane twist.
Hahaha IKR ! this channel I enjoy, it sure does lay on the ‘WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WILL CHILL YOUR BONES’… I laugh every time
@@c00t999Haha we'll never get that twist
Hahaha for real though.
The amount of effort she put into planning this is rather terrifying. To think someone that “loves” the other could do this leaves me without words. Unbelievably evil. As always great content, love your channel!
Not to say that theft/fraud is the same as murder but I think it showed that she had a very diabolical mind. She stole a lot of money from an organization that had previously treated her very well. Her explanation of the theft was really lame. As if there is no other way to help out your children but steal. It really says a lot about her deviousness. I think she got desperate when her husband was about to find out about the theft. People with this kind of mindset become very dangerous when their evil side is about to be exposed. Her "perfect" marriage was about to go up in smoke.
Yeah , another reason no perfect murder as so many clues 🕵️♀️ can expose you
Yeah. I am single because I no longer have much trust in humans . Dogs are far superior re friendship or family involvements- we do have seperate social lives and sleeping arrangements. if you should assume otherwise ( and insult us both)
It's nearly always the person closest
Take it as a lesson. You can't trust anybody.
It’s awesome how quick the kids picked up on the strange quirks about Lori after and the odd things she was saying or doing. Brains pick up on so many little intuitions quickly. Also I’m really glad you say that all of these strange quirks/actions of Lori can and can’t be signs of panic and lies. I was watching another UA-cam channel the other day try to breakdown a case and he literally said “see the suspect just blinked, blinking is a major sign of lying” 😂 as If it’s not required to see or survive lol. You actually show that it’s just a possibility that some of these signs are suspicious 👏🏻
Damn if blinking is considered suspicious then my uncle is hiding a whole bunch of shit. He has something called blepharospasm that makes his eyes twitch and blink a lot.
Offu1994 Exactly! I guess you have to piece together a bunch of tells after finding their baseline personality! It’s fascinating knowing I’ve done these things in meaningless or at least innocent situations! Gotta watch out for them now!
Single signs never mean anything, i think what they do is they look for clusters of 3+ behavior cues in a short span, that differ from the earlier observed baseline behavior
I always wondered if anyone else was interested in the psychology of the people who are evil and the victims 🤔
You sure fast blinking wasn't being described? I've heard of a fast blinking rate, but not just blinking. If that's the case, then we're all liars. Lol
I thought I was listening to a 90 year old woman on the 911 call.
I always feel a sense of relief when an EWU vid shows up in my feed....like "Yesssssss! I have some guaranteed good listening ahead!" .... I listen at work all day everyday...sometimes I actually have to sit and search for things....but with content like this it is an immediate winner. Thanks EWU!
Do you ever get the backlash of like "wait shit I shouldn't be excited, something terrible had to happen for this video to be made"? Not trying to start shit or anything, just curious.
Also not trying to imply you should feel bad for enjoying these, obviously the shit is happening and this is just a documentary
She messed up the minute she said “I’ve been looking for him for hours” why would you not call emergency services hours before!?! 🤦🏼♀️
Her story was she couldn't find his cell phone. Why wouldnt she have her own cell phone and I would check every nook looking for the cell phone knowing he didn't have it in his pocket. In 2 hours she didn't think to shake the blanket? Also don't boats come with a radio?
Exactly.
No cell phone until she came across his under a blanket
Then she said she dropped his phone in the water too lol now that’s what really messed her up
How the heck do you not have your cellphone with you especially you are out into the sea?
This is why people need to learn it's okay to split. Sometimes 2 people stop fitting together and forcing it can be worse.
Had nothing to do with not fitting or forcing anything. Did you watch the video?
@@IceTTomforcing the relationship instead of letting go. Letting go and splitting assets. Versus "accidental death" and inheriting it all. Which is what she tried for.
Never date a cheater
It's all about money. They divorce, big bills all round. She takes him 4 a boat ride, hopes 2 keep it all 4 her greedy self.
@MrNinjaman63 how u meet them is how u leave them. I heard that years ago and have seen it come true in loads of relationships. U meet someone and they're cheating on their current squeeze, believe me the same is gonna happen 2 u.
this case is particularly haunting to me, as i used to struggle with an addiction to benadryl. it’s important to note that the highs are honestly quite terrifying. intense and often disturbing hallucinations, visual snow, strange sensations in the body; and to top all of that off, it quite literally feels like 50 lb weights are strapped to all of your limbs. it’s difficult to move, talk, or even think. often you become completely incoherent and unable to communicate. larry didnt just overdose and become drowsy and fall into death, he absolutely suffered before his death, and it’s chilling to think about.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
How much would it take to feel these effects? The only thing I could find online as far as adverse effects are these symptoms: Side effects of DPH include drowsiness, dizziness, nausea, headache, muscle weakness, nervousness, dry mouth and constipation
@@gonegirl3577 at my worst, i was taking upwards of 15 pills at 25 mg each.
@@gonegirl3577 it’s similar to the effects of abusing cough syrup. it’s known as robotripping
Why would anyone abuse something that makes them feel awful?
I've watched a few videos covering this case but this is by far the best one yet, thank you for all your time and hard work! And may Larry rest in peace🙏
These videos have been invaluable for my crime-planning. Thank you.
Oh no! You missed the most important part where you never ever make any internet comments about how you're planning a crime. Now they're gonna getcha
@GelatoAndMelatonin who is they?
That was stupid. Now the whole Internet knows your intentions hear that knock on the door? It’s the police.😂
@MsLouisVee you have no idea what you are talking about.
Freedom of speech is a constitutional right.
@@thomasjensen6243 Lol. She didn't say he couldn't say it. She said that now that he HAS said it, it will incriminate him. Relax. We're all having fun with his comment, it was a good one.
You guys are better than the news. No opinion. Just facts as they are known at that time.
BRAVO!!
This WHOLE video premise is about opinion. They even have a disclaimer. All the statements about how someone looked or acted followed by it "could mean" or "it is theorized"? Those are OPINIONS. Opinions based on BS as a matter of fact because a recent study has proven that any supposed professional in body language or truth detection has merely 50% accuracy. The same a chance. It is interesting for sure, but pure truth, no not at all.
You must have watched a different video than I did because the entire thing was filled with ridiculous opinions.
Yeah, but the news knows how to pronounce Coeur d’Alene though
@@lkytmryan they're referring to the ones making the video. Not those involved
@@wearesavedbygodsgrac Yes I know. The narrator was constantly making assertations about how moving a foot indicated one type or another behavior. Its a faux science. He should just tell the story and stop trying to pretend he can interpret body language. It almost makes it unlistenable.
The pictures surprised me. She sounds like she's 80 years old.
Listening to the 911 call, I expected to see a Grey haired elderly lady.
Me too
Right?! I thought that too. That must have been part of the innocent act
Yeah I was rather surprised too.
Yea I think she did that with the intent of sounding more helpless
@@Alcoholpad totally, mate. What a nut job
My hubby passed 6 years ago. I still haven’t gotten rid of ANYTHING that was his. His clothes are still hanging in his closet. His tools are still in the garage. His oxygen machine, hospital bed & wheelchair are all still here. His truck hasn’t moved & sets in the driveway & I’ve had TONS of offers on it. I can’t fathom getting rid of his things tbh. I know one day I’ll have to, but that day hasn’t come yet & I don’t foresee it in the near future either.
The initial 911 call rang alarms bells.
He fell of the boat... I've been looking for him for hours
If I was the 911 operator I would’ve said “ma’am the problem is you’re looking at the surface of the lake and your husband is at the bottom”😂
I sure hope that Larry's children were able to have the revised, forged will revoked and were able to inherit everything their father intended for them. The should not have to suffer the premature loss of their father, to murder, and also to lose their inheritance, all due to the nefarious actions of their step mother, Lori. What a terrible betrayal, of everyone in her life. Incredibly sad.
Agree. Not sure how the law works in these types of situations
He betrayed his first wife with three !
@@BlackStump172 No, Lori betrayed her first husband with three and Larry was one of them. There was never any mention if Larry was married at the time. (21:15)
@@BlackStump172 loud and wrong.
@@BlackStump172 sounds like you would do this too. Didn’t even pay attention to the video. You defending her is suspicious and if I was your husband I would be terrified
When a couple are unhappy together, why they don’t simply go their separate ways is beyond me.
I suppose too much tied into the relationship. Too much to lose. People are crazy
Money, that's why. She wanted it
Because she wanted the money for her kids and herself. Not for his kids. This isn't about being unhappy in a relationship, it's about greed.
Yes, it was a money issue-
Maybe you should try watching the show before commenting.
This is one of the very best true crime channels ever, definitely my #1 favorite. I always make it part of my research while working on a case & have found many stories I've never heard of before. The quality and detail are better than any network or cable television I've seen, you bring it to the next level. I first became addicted to this channel by watching the interrogation evaluations, those are spot on and without equal. These stories need to be told, it's an important job telling them and this channel does that with dignity & integrity. EWU is a vital part of the true crime community, thank you for all you contribute.
Taking all facts into account, her guilt was quite obvious. I’m glad she did not get away with the murder of her husband.
Spoiler alert
Oh you gave it away....oh well
White women are not treated like adults by the justice system.
it wasnt obvious
@@computeraidedyami It definitely was. Her incredibly long and detailed responses to the 911 operator and the police for very simple questions were huge red flags. She changed her story several times about different events that occurred. She decided to drive around and look for him in the water for over two hours rather than go to the shore to get help because she was “afraid she would forget where she was when he fell over” and didn’t attempt to look for his cell phone until she apparently got cold and found it under a blanket. Her crying started and stopped immediately whenever she felt the need to turn off the waterworks. She was oddly happy and smiling when the police came to see her at the hospital and told her they still didn’t recover his body. There’s plenty of other very obvious things she said or did that made it clear she was hiding something, but I think those are enough.
I knew it was her at the very start of the video. Her distressed call had no chilling vibe. Whenever there's something a person is panicking, you can tell it by something that goes into your mind and body. I don't know how to explain but I've been getting all these judgements of these kinda case spot on
It's very dangerous to believe you have the ability to read into whether or not somebody's lying by their tone of voice or body language. This sort of thing has resulted in people being falsely imprisoned many times. Gut feelings are fine, but it's important we stick to the evidence and there was more than enough in this case that we don't need to try and armchair psychoanalyse the 911 call.
It’s funny how all the people that say “I knew it immediately” usually just say this after the facts come out and it is impossible to know that they are wrong. It’s very easy to pretend you’re more intelligent than you are by referring to past events that other people missed and claiming that “you knew right away”
EWU has to be my absolute favorite True Crime channel ever! They never leave out any details and i LOVE it. I watch these videos everyday while cleaning, reading, etc. This channel definitely needs more attention.
Me too, it is informative and detailed.
I can't stand how they call the viewers EWU crew, makes me cringe.
@@Mike--Oxmall then simply don’t watch.💀
@@Silentravioli I can't help it have a lot of time on my hands
Every clip you watch involving a 911 call you hear the dumbest responses you could imagine after some poor person is trying to relate a horrific incident......It's excruciating to listen to.
0:50 just casually posing for a picture while there’s a grizzly bear behind them.
I DIDN’T SEE THAT 😂😂🏆
I was looking to see if anybody else noticed that
Only came to the comments to see if anyone else thought they saw that too 😂
same same..lol
I came here looking for this comment! 😂
I remember when all this happened, I've lived in Coeur d'alene since '98 and it's a small town feel where everyone knew everyone and words spread fast, most of us already knew she had something to do with it. I appreciate you putting the interview clips up though! I've never seen those! You guys always make such great content!!!
@carey is that a coeur d'alene thing 'cause that's such an extremely specific question
@catalyst lol nope, can't say I do. I'll have to look her up if she's a UA-camr though.
what do you mean most of you already knew though? was she quite a character or was there a history there with her/them?
@@oliviastar3812 just by the people I associate with, we figured just by the statements and the situation in general, we figured she had something to do with it... it was very suspicious
@@KristenDilligaf she's loopy and odd...
i’m so glad she’s in prison for his murder. he was so good to her. she will rot in hell
5:33; that’s admirable for him to point that out and expect some level of respect and empathy regardless of the obvious.
They do it to allow them to gather all possible information, nothing else
I'm with the other guy that rolled his eyes
It wasn't obvious at the start. It became obvious after further investigation.
The amount of research and dedication that you guys put into each and every single one of your cases is truly mind blowing and much appreciated. There are a lot of UA-cam channels out there that do not have the correct facts and research. Thank you guys for providing us with 100% facts I am honestly a huge supporter of all your channels! Even got my husband hooked on it and he doesn’t really like true crime lol keep the gems coming! 💙💜💙💜
For all my veteran true crime enthusiasts...we all know that opening 911 call was as BS as it gets. People greatly overestimate their acting skills and ability to compile a tight alibi. Imagine being some regular lady doing regular things a woman like this does, no in-depth knowledge of how investigations works, and then decide to kill your husband like this, initiating a full investigation against you by a group of people who's job it is to solve crimes. She was doomed from the start. Smoked!!!
Not gonna lie, she had decent acting skills when police first arrived.
@@thatrunawayguy3555 I'll give ya that. But that 911 call..oof. Plus I'm already looking at her with a suspicious eye because the nature of the vid. When you listen to so so many of these calls you start to develop a sense for what's authentic and what's not.
Agreed! Even the one about that actor guy in California, he did a terrible job of acting, when he killed a guy for his Veteran pay from the military, and then a random girl to throw off the trail. It's gotta come down to their narcissistic/antisocial disorders
@@MsMichigan Ahhh yes, I couldn't think of his name so had to relook that one up. Daniel Wozniak. A complete desperate narcissist. Made for some good true crime entertainment though!
@@LafeJames yes! That's him.... he was just a disgusting human....I mean, they all are, that do this.... but something about him, really made me wanna punch him in the face. I'd make sure he'd have a broken nose for his "wedding" (and I don't condone violence, but that's how upset I was when I lear about him😡🤮)
It's wild to me how many insane people just kind of blend into society, not only do they blend in, but they PROSPER, they have families, houses, careers, and they pull some shit like this. Its really scary. I'm not a murderous embezzler and yet I don't have half the things that she had, no family, no career...It actually makes me furious to see people like her attain all the good things in life while I struggle to have basic "normalcy". Failing upwards I guess is what people call it, and it seems to happen A LOT.
This world scares me. I feel the same way
Can't serve God and money. I have come to be grateful for God's protection against counting on worldly wealth instead of Him
You need money to have a life. God is great, but won't pay your bills.@@danarzechula3769
I mean, you can kinda tell from her face and her eyes. She'd be someone I'd not hang around.
This woman is 66. She is a boomer. The economy was pretty decent while she was growing up. Easy to have a house and career. Family is also pretty easy, just get someone pregnant or get pregnant. Boom there you go. Family.
You guys NEVER disappoint! Definitely one of my favorite YT channels. I love the analysis and the fact that the cases are so meticulously broken down and studied..it's absolutely fascinating to see what makes people "tick". I look forward to every upland....you guys are AWESOME!!
@@philipbridler ,lied to? I don't understand what you mean.
Losing some some one is awful. After my husband's funeral had people over to my house to take whatever they wanted. Because I knew if I didn't it would kill me to see daily. Even his bed. I didn't cry at the funeral. I cried for a minute in icu that was so loud that a couple of nurses started to cry. He was my best friend. I cried two months later when going through the checkout when the cashier asked me how I was doing today. So embarrassing to think about it as the young worker didn't know how to handle my reaction. My mom just died in May and I cry almost daily. There's no right way to process the pain. This woman's story was ridiculous, glad the cops didn't believe her. prayers to her children.
I’m sorry for your loss. ❤️
Bless your heart. I'm so sorry you lost your husband. I can't imagine the pain you've been going through. My heart broke when I read your comment, God bless and keep you. Prayers for you, dear.
I’m so sorry for your losses
Hope you are doing ok now💗
Sorry for your losses. Perhaps it will bring you a slight bit of happiness to know that I’m officially your 69th “like”!
“Ssshhhh she’s right there 👀 “ what great detective work lol
Lori trying to remember details, reminds me of the phrase, "When you tell the truth, you don't need a good or long memory.". Judge Judy
A fake TV "judge" is who you quote? No wonder the USA is so fucked.
Even when you're not lying, it's not always easy to recall details. I dont remember a lot of details about when my dad died, but I didn't kill him.
I like how you explain the psychological aspects. My family deals with bad things with humour. Some think it is a sign we are hard or don't care.
We do that and people think we r hard but it's not that it's a coping mechanism that works for us.
I just attended a "celebration" of my oldest uncle. My parents and grandparents are all dead. We celebrate the love and happy memories, and don't dwell on the cause of death. And yes, we are Irish and maybe might drink a bit at the celebration/ memorial lol
Same here, when my nan, who was very much the matriarch of the family, died, me and my cousin (we grew up living with my nan so were very close with her) visited her in the chapel of rest and the first thing we said was " Well Nan, at least now we can get a word in!" 😂 We were laughing and remembering and the funeral director (who was waiting in the other room) said it was great to hear laughter from a family in mourning ❤️
If it was a natural death yes. Like the case of terminal cancer that would ended the suffering of him or her. But if it was the homicide the cause of death, the emotion of grief is totally different. Piece of advice just be very very careful about your written testament for your wealth. This would be your top secret.
@Lemonade why did you erased your comments here? You told me that nobody asked my piece of advice here (I've said this base in my experienced).
I listen the whole story here. What was the real motive of killing her husband? Was the money right? And her husband's life insurance, wealth and his testament. But her husband changed his testament before he was murdered. When she knew about it.The wife took revenge maybe? And she did the embezzlement of $500k at her work which was unknown to her husband. So she decided to kill her husband to pay her crime of $500k. She did good planning but there was no a perfect crime! She won't get away the expertise of the investigators and the modern technology today, forensic, autopsy, DNA etc.
Originally a 911 dispatcher. Best job i ever had. I am the kind that empathized and made sure i extended compassion. I imagined holding my hand out to callers to help calm them down. I CAN attest to the fact that others ( except for 2) were extremely curt, harsh and responded with impatience. It is a high turn over rate. Also not many people applying for the position are able to pass background checks, drug tests nor credit checks ( this would show how responsible the individual was). So of course they were not fired. When i hear the 911 calls i cringe at the attitudes in the voices AND above all the total lack of active listening. I agree with another comment viewer that 999 in the UK are very professional, calm and respectful.
My son’s father drowned 2 yrs ago and I still find his death super suspicious. He went fishing and long story short he was supposedly alone, but a 12 pack of bud light was on ice in the cabinet of the boat with 6 missing but no alcohol was in his system.
Might have had 6 the week before
@@steroe7965 Where in the comment does it say he went out on his boat the week before that leads you to deduce this?
I'm so sorry. I wonder if they performed an autopsy on him and if they found water in his lungs because they determined this victim didn't drown because he had no water in his lungs. My condolences.🌺💓
Oh my! Doesn't add up
@@isabellind1292the comment doesn't need to say anything about the week before. It could be there from a year before Sherlock
EWU will always stand as one of the best true crime content creators on this platform. They’ve invested a lot of their time, effort, and hard work into making true crime videos, and I call that genuine dedication and commitment. Stay strong, EWU Crew.
i want to add respectful and sticks to the facts!!!
Not to mention they just dropped an almost 2 hour interrogation breakdown like yesterday or the day before.
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EWU and Mr Black! 🔥🔥🔥
He just ripped stuff from the episode of Dateline NBC called Killswitch covering this incident.
Agree 💯
Her acting on the boat when first responders got there was Grammy worthy! She’s one of the few.
I hope you are joking
@@glenwoolnough1499he's just clout chasing. People do it all the time in the comments for attention
Don’t listen these guy her acting was pretty good so good it’s scary
True that 😂
You don't get a Grammy for acting
She is a crazy good actor, the fear was so realistic! She should’ve became an actress instead of doing crimes.
even if she murdered him, she can still be in fear or even grief. It doesn't have to be acted but still, what she is saying is important
The Behavior Panel says that people who make 911 calls and start storytelling are probably the perpetrator. They say innocent 911 callers are desperate to seek help...keep asking for help. This lady was storytelling.
She's a horrible actor
right I almost believed her lying ass
Not really a good actor, I guessed straightaway that she was the murderer because she had her whole story down pat. A man would probably be fooled by her though. Men don't realise how deceptive women can be. Other women know just how cruel other women can be, and how manipulative they can be, with fake crying and fake hysteria. It's very easy for women to raise their voices and swing their arms around, and most women can fake cry and get sympathy. Women manipulate men as much as they can when they want to get their own way, because most women will not win a fistfight with a man. So they have to learn how to win a fight sneakily by very devious means. Most men have no idea what women are actually capable of.
I love police/investigator objectivity.
“It can be totally legit, or it could be totally something else”
1:05 Just a bear taking a quick dip
😂 I saw that! Nobody pays attention to the big a$$ bear in the water 😂
If he was able to survive taking a selfie with a bear, I have a hard time believing he died "accidentally" falling into the water lol
I know this sounds cliche but I'm being serious! The fact that you have uploaded 2 videos (one yesterday & 1 today) one to each channel literally brings me and my fiance something we both enjoy to watch when the kids settle for bed. So honestly thank you for still having that desire to bring content! Also a side note I really enjoy your use of body language and how much its utilised. I literally notice the things in learn from here IRL. Thanks again!
I love how she asked for a lawyer and the cops just ignored her
but if they deny her right to a lawyer, then nothing she says after that can be used in court 🤷♀️
She never asked for a lawyer. She just brought up the idea that she might need to speak to her lawyer
@@ericperez1280 that’s the same as requesting one. The problem with that is in court if they deny her that can be used against them
@@ericperez1280 the way she said it could be interpreted as her asking for a lawyer. A good lawyer would have been able to argue that in court. The minute she said that he should have stopped asking her questions and asked if she wanted her lawyer. Cases have been overturned, and verdicts for cops not stopping questioning when people have said "I think I need a lawyer now". People ask for things differently. But you could tell she knew not to talk. She obviously knew if it went to trial she'd be convicted. That's why she took a plea deal.
Edit: Grammar and spelling.
That's actually a big no no.
As soon as she said he had a stroke on the boat I knew she was lying. How could she immediately know that it was a stroke before he fell overboard?
It’s so scary to think people who proclaim to love each other and are in the years where they should just want to settle down and enjoy life , scare to think how evil thoughts and just enter the mind , Thank you guys ,Family
Never trust anyone who would benefit from you being harmed. Most spouses (especially wives who stand to gain life insurances and sympathy, making people less suspicious of them) stand to gain in this manner
She was evil for her whole life. Cheated three times with ex husband, fraud. She just finally got caught. Might not be the first one to die around her either
You’re more likely to be killed by a loved one than a stranger
never trust anyone who cant spell THEY
@@Vespa123 Right!!! I have no idea what is written..
How warped can a person be to still have a big smile after killing someone and being sentenced to life. There's some really crazy people out there.
Ya know, if you title every video "most insane twist you've ever heard," it becomes less impactful.
But what if it’s in ALL CAPS?
She did send him to the Hat Man before he died. Pretty twisted and cruel I'd say.
Lmao i was just litterally thinking that as i came across this video
Yeah I was quite disappointed. I won’t be watching any more ewu crime
It’s to get you to click the video, it clearly worked.
The long and winding road of criminal madness never ceases to amaze
I live where this case takes place, crazy such a terrible thing happened in our small town. First time we’ve had something like this happen, to my knowledge. Thanks for covering this case!
If it weren’t for Larry’s children, she would’ve gotten away with it. The detectives were clueless.
I still don't understand how people think they can get away with murder... They think they above the authorities.
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Most murders are unsolved.
@@RicoLikes2Talk according to what/who? the good thing about that, if it is true, is that they can always be solved in the future. many crimes end up being solved when they are looked into with different eyes & technology, etc.
@@jenniej0an only about 1/3 of murder cases are ever solved. Even if the murders ARE solved, it doesnt mean the suspect will be charged. It can be extremely difficult to convict, even if it's OBVIOUS who the murderer is.
@@jenniej0an he’s right many are unsolved and many have gotten away with murder.
@@jenniej0an it depends on the area largely. My mother’s first husband was found dead in a quarry with a bungee chord wrapped around his neck about 30 years ago and it went unsolved and was labeled an “accident”. Another man was dropped off in front of the local police station with his neck slashed when I was a small child. Also unsolved. This is small town Indiana. So I don’t know how much that effects the statistic but I personally know of quite a few murder cases that weren’t solved and likely won’t be.
One point that needs correction: an oral dose of 100-1000ng (nanogram) of diphenhydramine (Benadryl) probably doesn’t even cross the threshold into a microdose. I think you either meant an oral dose of 100-1000mg (milligram) OR the 100-1000ng (nanogram) refers to some sort of concentration per unit of blood/plasma.
Looks like the LD50 (dose at which 50% of people taking it will die) is 10.2mg/kg. If her husband was average size, let’s say 165lbs (75kg), then the LD50 dose would be 765mg or about 30 Benadryl pills (typically 25mg each).
@@kvg4790 You beat me to it. Who doses diphenhydramine in nanograms? No one.
So nobody gonna talk about the grizzly bear in the lake literally feet behind them in the first picture of the two of them together 🤔
The bear did it. 🐻
Okay. The murder was very bad, the investigation was good. But there's something else on my mind. I want to know why a "housing coalition" (whatever that may be) is getting its hands on so much money that it doesn't notice for a considerable time that $500,000 has gone missing.
A very good example of a very bored 911 dispatcher who has BIG listening challenges. Someone could bleed to death before she would "get" the issue at hand!!!
They need to get the location of the incident so that someone can be sent out ASAP. Emergency operators aren't daycare workers, emotion is of no value at that particular moment. Let's also not forget that the women on the other end of the call had just murdered someone, but hey...
You do realize that even though she’s still getting info, she has already dispatched first responders don’t you??
It always makes me laugh when you guys give them shit or even the callers saying “hurry! Send an ambulance” or whatever! I mean, that’s most definitely the 1st thing they do even before they have a proper destination even. They’ve already getting them prepped then they give them the location as soon as they have it. They don’t have to tell EMS with their mouths for them to head out! Here in the future we have computers that allow us to multitask…🤣
00:30 seconds in and I already think I know what happened
It's always crazier when the crime happened in a tiny town you used to live in...Rarely do stories come out of ID, let alone CDA. Sadly I had a friend that was murdered in CDA back in late 2009-early 2010. His name was Timothy Shackleford (23) and he was found after an anonymous tip came into the police of "a man unconscious on a residential street, after falling" out of a moving car." He was brought into Kootenai County Hospital where they found his BAL (blood alcohol level} was .28, but he had NO marks, dirt, or scrapes consistent with falling out of a moving car. He woke up while in the hospital but couldn't remember what happened. He fell into a coma shortly after waking up, and died a few days later due to a brain aneurysm. My ex SIL was his nurse and was the one that took his vitals and blood when he first came into the hospital. She had absolutely no idea he was my friend until I mentioned his death a few months later. She has vouched that he did not have any injuries consistent with what the anonymous tip claimed. I've looked into his case, and the CDA police department has done little to piece it together.
I live (born and grew up, never left) in CDA and I remeber when that happened to your friend, nobody ever said what happened and it just disappeared out of the news. The CDA Police can be extremely useless here unfortunately. And I'm not against law enforcement, 2 of my family members are officers but the department in this town is awful and everyone knows it. I'm honestly surprised they even solved this case, and I don't think it would have if they didn't find his body and the evidence didn't lay itself out right in front of them.
@@TNT-km2eg don't read it if you don't like it, I know you have probably never thought of that but its simple as that!
@@TNT-km2eg sshhhhh
@@TNT-km2eg calm down karen people can write what they want
@@Alisha8596 People can be so rude. LOL
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FYI diphenhydramine is also VERY commonly used for seasickness prevention and it’s not at all unusual to have it with you on a boat. In fact, it’s the smart thing to do and could even be expected. Now I’m only 7 minutes in so I’m not saying anything about anyone’s guilt or innocence or anything, just wanting to point out that that alone is NOT even remotely suggestive of anything, and that seasickness is one of the main things diphenhydramine is meant to treat, because this video failed to mention it. It’s also considered basically the gold standard for serious allergies despite potentially causing drowsiness because it’s still much more effective than the non-drowsy allergy medicines. Also, if using it regularly (for example daily or near daily for allergies) most people eventually sort of “adjust” to the drug and side effects such as drowsiness diminish and/or eventually stop occurring altogether. And even if it DOES make you drowsy, it isn’t going to just full on knock you out like rohypnol or something, you won’t black out or be unable to wake up completely, you’ll just be kind of groggy. It’s nowhere near strong enough of a sedative to reliably use it to commit murder. I’m pointing this out because I love how this channel makes sure to make people understand how certain behaviors and things do NOT automatically mean someone is guilty and goes on the explain other reasons why someone might do/have/say something that could potentially be viewed as suspicious, but this part was missed.
When the cop says she just answered my questions without me asking them, should have made him think the opposite not that shes innocent.. these officers scare me sometimes man.. to many of them are hired way to easily and so many of them don’t even know the laws they’re enforcing.. but he literally says u know a lot seemed off but then i talked to her and she had all the answers so u know what she’s innocent LOL WHAAAT.. makes u wonder how many cases they said were an accident and it really was not
Im not done with the video yet so idk what happens but i can bet shes guilty of something
She was way too prepared for answers. That is NOT normal. She killed him. I'm still watching this.
She's in prison so they did something right.
@@isking1715 i agree good !
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it's hard to believe that lori didn't have a prior criminal record.
my dad is a retired detective and he told me were trained so well to deal with lying that the only person who possibly could possibly fool a detective is another detective
80% true
The word “Detective” doesn’t make u good at catching liars yes u learn but to be fool ANYBODY high iq or not you must have a strong brain. Interigation is a game of chess, crime is a game of chess
If that were true then we wouldn’t have so many innocent people getting locked up and we certainly wouldn’t have so many guilty people walking free…🤷🏾♂️
Ps. Regarding the bit about it taking intelligence to be a proficient liar…I’ve known a couple of epic liars in my time and they happened to be painfully stupid at the same time!
Ya cops are pretty arrogant. Correct
I thought they were legally required to stop questioning immediately when the suspect invokes their right to a lawyer.
I just don’t get how people can just take someone’s life and think they are supposed to live happily ever after. Not to mention are willing to give up their freedom. I remember I spent 3.5 hours in jail because some asshole dropped their weed in my car. I thought I would was going crazy. And people are actually willing to do life?Taking somebody’s love ones life and losing yours is just not worth it. Sip Larry!
You do such a great job at these videos, thank you for all the effort you put in.
So sad for Larry's kids and him for even getting involved with such a lying schemer. Rip Larry. Very sad story
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So they met while she was cheating on her last husband and this guy still thought she was a keeper
That's my issue with an Alford plea... although convicted of the crime, the defendant can claim innocence and spin any sort of story they like. It's disingenuous and insulting to the victim and their loved ones. Either plead guilty or face a jury.
God knows the truth. She can only run for so long
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I knew what happened the second she said “I’ve been looking for him for hours” RIP Larry
props to her being a good storyteller though. listening to a lot of crimes and their alibis, most sound bs and ridiculous. this ones believable af. she managed to fill in the holes
@11:39 "Lori wasn't considered a suspect", yet her interactions with the police were later used as evidence against her. .... If anything happened to my wife, whether she fell overboard, disappeared unexpectedly, died in a freak accident, or died any other way that led to the police being involved, I wouldn't agree to an interview or other open-ended meeting with the police, such as assisting in a search, without advice from my attorney.
Which is what everyone should do, its crazy though how many people are in a situation like that and do in fact speak to police without a laywer... It should be common sense by now but it isn't.
Abso-fucken-lutely!
@@jannasmith3275yes!
It blows my mind whenever I see a cop and once even a homicide detective being interrogated and they don’t demand a lawyer or invoke the 5th…
This woman was beyond manipulative. She even got her daughters involved - the people she is supposed to protect with her life. I'm glad they only got house arrest, but I believe they still now have felony records since it was 1 year. She ruined a lot of lives and with nothing more than a shrug and a "I didn't do it" for explanation. Guys - don't marry the woman you are cheating on your wife with - she might be this lady...
She put everyone of the recovery team in danger during this as well, tough job looking for people, dead or alive, on a lake!
I understand what you’re saying but the last bit 🥴 I don’t see how she’s any worse than the husband who’s cheating on his wife?
@@Potato-lp5ijthat’s not the point. I’m pretty sure OP’s statement regarding the cheating woman was tongue in cheek….
Question, do you always have trouble with sarcasm and social cues and that sort of thing..?
Perfect timing once again.. y'all never let us down.. Much love from central Kentucky
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The announcer forgot to mention one important fact about diphenhydramine. It is also a sleep aid when used in larger doses. It is so effective that some states made it a DUI for using it.