NONE of them ever 'remember' doing the crimes they do, even when its fully planned out ahead of time. Its because if they explain what really happened they would look like an absolute monster, because they ARE!
You can have psychotic attacks and be ashamed for what you did. The process in your mind is blacking out the memories due to guilt. That's called dissociation. She can also be both, crazy and conniving.
These videos are SO well made! - No distracting music - No dramatization - Very well edited - minimal voiceover/captions that precisely highlight important clues - explains crucial info i.e. interrogation techniques or background info Thank you
@@seymourdemonica9264 Totally agree. They lean heavily into the "True crime voice" where everything has to be delivered with a grizzled voice. Also everything is a "fateful night/day". They do good work but could do way less on the dramatization, the cases are powerful enough without trying to hit us with the oohs and ahhs.
@@dimattia11people be stealing their videos and not giving them credit, they have to watermark them. there is a whole team of professionals that work on these videos and contribute. they have millions of subscribers and get millions of views, i’d watermark them too
I have boardeeline personality disorder. My dad always told me my diagnosis is not an excuse. I went to therapy for DBT therapy. Changed my LIFE. having BPD is not a valid excuse for ANY kind of violence. EVER.
BPD here and most borders internalise their emotions.... Ive never physaically lashed out , ill hurt myself before anyone. Kids..... Im too passionate against child abuse ... Can we please stop using BPD for any crime a female does. I see it constantly and its why so many say nothing. ergh... Its a day to day constant work . Well done! Its incredibly hard to manage esp at the start.
yah a diagnosis is only temporary as we are constantly healing as creatures of nature, this nature is so influenced by free will that you can trap yourself between a rock and a hard place, by depending too much on labels of diagnosis, it can almost do the opposite of ground you, IN SOME SITUATIONS, i don't know your situation this comment just made me have these thoughts
And what about if you ended up with postpartum psychosis? People with bipolar disorder have a much higher rate of PPP, which many women try to just power through. The fact that she let others know of her thoughts about killing her children, her clear depression, you don’t know how you would behave in that situation. Perhaps educate yourself on PPP and PPD, it could happen to you.
@@person35790 exactly the point. She was fully aware how her thinking was....it's her responsibility to seek treatment..... Kids safety is priority.. I see no justification but her timing and jealousy shines through.
As an RN myself I always love when these initial interrogations happen in hospital while it seems as though the suspect might still be hooked up to a vitals monitor… because you can often hear the heart rate changes as they go off into a lie or approach a topic they don’t want to address…. Those alerts (if actually hooked up to the suspect speaking) can be a good indicator of true feelings
You can’t use that in court. I’m sure that would be stressful in general. Everyone knows polygraphs (same premise) give false negatives and positives all the time. Especially if you are prone to anxiety and stuff. That would just tell you someone might be anxious. Which is normal when talking to the cops.
@ I don’t think anyone has ever mentioned trying to use it in court lol I was just saying it was funny to hear their reactions to the questions on a monitor
"Lacey persistently told her mother how much she loved her" - that makes me want to sob. I have a 7 year old girl. The idea of a poor child knowing how much danger she was in and trying to placate her mother is heartbreaking.
I have a 2yo and 30 times a day she will like walk past or “hug attack” me as she calls it saying “I love you momma” like excuse me this child is my entire life no way would I ever raise my hand to her let alone worse 💯
I've got a young son. When I come home from work it's "Daddy! Daddy! Hi Daddy! Daddy Look!" I get that crazy immense anger sadness sickness just thinking of something bad happening to my kids. My family is very literally my world. This psycho b**** deserves scaphism only after being tortured for days.
Toddler and pre school is heaven compared to pre teen just started menstruation little angel that I love so very much and am terrified at same time:) all stages are tough beautiful fun rewarding challenging and so much more. Anyone that can harm a child in any way doesn't deserve to exist. No measure wouldn't be taken if someone tried to hurt my kids. This is the ultimate in heartbreaking
My brother is paramedic and firefighter, and he was on this call. Let’s just say everybody on this scene needed therapy afterwards. It was heartbreaking.
@@ohwell94my thoughts keep going to him. He is no prince either. He will watch his kids but wants her kids gone. I’m sorry that is as shitty as it gets. He was also totally lacking in support after her complications. I can’t blame him but he is also responsible. His mistreatment of her and her children is rude, immature and completely amoral. Can you jail him up for a little bit for anything. Something is out of place with him, can’t put my finger on it other than his obvious abusive meanness. He is a creep
Please thank your brother for me, because in general being a paramedic/firefighter can be so challenging, let alone having to work with cases like this; I hope him and everyone else that worked on this case are doing ok
I can’t imagine what the children went through. The terror of watching your mom do that to your siblings and then come for you. This is beyond sick, beyond evil and it’s so hard to even comprehend.
She gave herself away when she was talking about the ex husband after the detective told her he’d talked to him. Her whole demeanor changed there for a second and you could hear the satisfaction in her voice that she’d punished him and the baby’s father. She’s pure evil, not crazy.
Yea it reminds me of the case from last year where a guy shot all his girlfriends kids including an infant in a crib because she broke up with him. The cops were crying and almost having panic attacks because of the scene. They caught him at the apartment tho.
Post partum psychosis will make you paranoid. Vindictive and literally do and say things completely evil. I'm not excusing what happened. I'm saying she was psychotic caused by a chemical imbalance in her brain after having the last child. She may have even had post partum with her other 2? She apparently also has BPD NPD and other mental health problems.
@@lovelyladyguido Amazing. There is literally nothing a woman can do in this world, no matter how evil or vile, that another woman won't justify and play defense for. She's a fucking monster, this ain't no PPP bullshit.
The first female detective worked her like a pro. I can’t imagine having to look a child murderer in the eyes & say ‘I understand’. That’s a mental strength like no other.
Because as a woman who has lived with the daily stress most women go thru, we CAN understand. We DO think about it BRIEFLY, but we would NEVER act or plan it. That’s the difference. Understanding is so different than excusing… I can empathize with Jessica feeling psychotic while still condemning her for being so weak and giving into those dark and painful impulses. You can be friends with your shadow without giving in and a lot of these murderers aren’t friends with their shadows. Their darkness takes over because they never give that shadow time to breathe, and then that becomes them… scary to think we’re all capable of this but most of us let it out in small ways so we would never let this become us. I think that’s why most of us like to see them as “evil” when the reality is we are all capable. RIP those poor poor babies Lacey, Phillip and Christopher. Hope Jessica gets the death penalty and stops wasting our taxes.
@@maybelikealittlebitthat's crazy. Not once have I ever even thought about that in my whole life. I have 6 children. I know stress. That has never crossed my mind
True but we have all broken the commandments and wen we all stand before god to be judged all sin will look the same to him that's why he says we must repent
Agreed, that fried, weepy voice is so fake and irritating to listen to. People don't talk like that for any other reason than to make it sound like they are remorseful, even little kids do that.
I'm always astounding at how the killer self- harm's to deflect blame but never enough to kill themselves. The nonchalant manner in the way she spoke to the detective was chilling!
She was likely medicated. She was certainly in a mental health crisis. Not defending her. Her actions are abhorrent. But armchair detective work is rarely useful.
The Dr. prolly gave her adavan or anxiety meds. I thought it was strange she baby talked about the murder ( I don't know) but talked normal when talking about everything else. Super weird!
Ikr. They obviously know how to kill, but just can't seem to get it right when it comes to themselves. Smh We should really bring back "cruel and unusual punishments" for people like this.
I can say it. Spite, her motive was pure petty spite. That letter basically outlines it. And in classic abuser fashion, she blames the murder of her family on Chris for wanting to separate. The classic "you drove me to this, so it's your fault" defense.
Exactly. When the narrator stated we may never know the motive I was like yes we do. That letter was it, reason is all there. Spite and revenge to the men for leaving her. Folks with BPD are afraid of abandonment and will lash out in violence such as suicide or murder at times.
@@loisannlovelace8988 Yeah it's very odd that the narrator says "we may never know" why Jessica did this immediately after they… clearly explain why she did this. It's typical of "family annihilators"-- their spiteful desire to inflict emotional pain outweighs their/desire to protect their children. Their children become a proxy tool with which to inflict that pain on their partner
@@gorelash9056 They were pieces of a game only she was playing and when she was still losing the "game" with those "pieces" she decided to get rid of them since they were no longer of use to her.
Woke up late today thinking of my young boy and saw this. I can’t comprehend this , that any parent would do something so heinous, so vile & so the opposite of any mother’s duty & role.
Yes I’ll state the obvious that what she did was horrendous. However, him saying that he won’t baby sit her kids and he’ll keep his child shows his character quite a bit. You all are a family yet keeping the children is “baby sitting” and you’ll separate your child from the other two. Idk, when ppl speak that way is very telling.
However is just a but in fancy clothing- they were in the middle of splitting, he works all day every day and she wants him to hand her money _AND_ watch all the kids (2 of which aren’t his) so she can go party it up? You have no idea the petty crap she said before he said that, either. What you and some like you seem to be overlooking is, you are taking her at her word, despite the fact that she just flat out slaughtered her entire brood, but somehow the _LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!_ defense comes tumbling out of your head so easily? I have 4 children, and stayed home with them until the youngest went to school. I occasionally went to a movie or shopping, but I was too exhausted to go ‘out’ and my husband was the father of _ALL OF MY CHILDREN_ and would gladly watch the kids while I did what I needed to, but I rarely asked because I was happy being home with my family. It might surprise you but, I never once ever contemplated doing something so completely unimaginable and could never do so in order to get one over on my husband. She had a perfectly fine baby daddy for the other two, but shocker, he was a complete PoS and wasn’t even keeping up on child support. So Christopher goes to work all day every day to support his family, when she said she wanted to be a trad wife, he caved, and supported children that weren’t even his because she’s such a poor judge of character, and just expected him to do it all because reasons? GMAFB. They weren’t even married and he tried to do right but she was just a miserable, conniving, scheming dumpster fire of a human.
@@lisalarsen2384I got that too. The blame undoubtedly lies on her shoulders but in the letter she said, "the thing's you said when you went for the jugular never leave me". Which obviously means that he has said some pretty disgusting thing's. He say's he, "fell in love" with lacey when she was two but wouldn't watch her for a bit and didn't bother to try to rescue them. And she also stated that he hated Lacey. I'm not sure why people can't agree that she is to blame for the horrible things she did but that he also played a roll, especially when he can so clearly sit there and say, without a doubt, that she was mentally disturbed. Also, the fact that when she called and said she killed the kid's, he said, yeah right and hung up. If you knew she was not right, why wouldn't you believe her?
She's such a liar. She knows exactly what she did and remembers everything. Also, the fact she told her mother she understands how parents can kill their kids is the biggest warning sign. No way should she have been alone with those children.
A coworker once told me out of nowhere that he could understand how men could kill their ex-wives. I gave him such a wide berth after that. He was fired for unrelated reasons a few weeks later and I don't know what happened with him.
I honestly believe she’s dissociated the actual killing part because it’s incredibly emotional, especially if she has BPD. I have BPD and dissociate on a daily basis. A lot of times I will remember in detail what happens leading up to a extremely emotional moment but the actual moment itself is wiped. BPD comes with extreme emotions and is very different from ASPD where you lack empathy. Killing your kids is highly emotional for someone with BPD, whether she did it out of anger, sadness, jealously etc. I even dissociate away happy moments. Everytime I experience an emotion too much it shuts off. It sucks. But like I said, I can remember everything up to it. What doesn’t make sense is the fact that she claims to not recall writing a letter which was way ahead of the actual killings, but then she remembers things between the letter and killings. If she were dissociating the entire time she would not remember any of it, but she does, which makes me believe she remembered the letter and knew she was going to do it, but her brain blocked out the graphic parts. Idk if that makes any sense 😅
The system is built and designed to make sure the kids stay with the women. Whether they are crazy or not. Doesn't matter. If you have male genitalia then you are up the creek when it comes to your kids if you ever want to separate. Unless you can prove 100% without a doubt in multiple ways that she is unfit. It takes a lot for a man to win the children unfortunately. I have known crackheads that don't work that get to keep the kids over the working father who is drug-free. That is the system that is America right now
All always have mandatory mental follow-up, but trauma often prevents many from returning to work for a long time or stay in the field. It happened to my EMT friend. He survived two tours as a military medic aboad, but it was a gruesome incident with children 'harmed' that broke him. He went back, but two others never did.
My sister is a cop and is pursuing forensics. Last January, there was a hunting accident that resulted in a 6 year old boy being fatally shot in a deer stand. She had to climb up there and bring him down. That has stuck with her. The things they encounter are incredibly taxing emotionally.
I can't even imagine the horror and fear and confusion those poor babies felt when their own mother was doing this to them. The one person they loved and trusted, who was supposed to keep them safe. And the desperation the father must had felt when he found them and tried to save the baby. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
They were helpless but they Harley could not "trust" this borderline lunatic because she had never been trustworthy! Children are not idiots and have a better instinct than adults!
@@dianabehr3169 You can't use being borderline as an insult against her when she wasn't even diagnosed with it. BPD doesn't make you kill people. This woman had many serious issues and knew exactly what she was doing too. She wanted her boyfriend to suffer. This was truly malicious towards Christopher.
It is such a slap in the face to tell a good mother and wife, that being a stay at home mom is not a job, because if it’s done right, you will working all day just like anyone at a job.
I'm sorry, are you classifying her as a "good mother"? What you need to keep in mind is that she's a liar and that her lies are self-serving. She says he told her she was worthless every day but she also said that he told her he loved her every day and that she was his entire world. So that doesn't really align, does it? Why? Because she's a liar. I have Borderline Personality Disorder so I understand it. She perceives even the most minor comment as severe criticism and a fundamental rejection of her. He might come home and simply observe that the dishes haven't been done. But what she hears is "You're a fat, lazy, worthless, good-for-nothing slob and I should leave you". Everything is criticism to her. Everything is a threat that she's going to be abandoned. This is how it works. For me, I would perceive signs of pending abandonment, which may or may not have actually been reality, and the way I would deal with it would be to pre-emptively abandon them. They can't abandon me if I abandon them first, right? Not exactly healthy behaviour. But certainly healthier than what she chose. She feared being abandoned so she pre-emptively abandoned her boyfriend by slaughtering her children. And as an added bonus she got to destroy the lives of the two men who decided that they couldn't be in a relationship with a living nightmare anymore. That's exactly what happened here. It had nothing to do with post-pardon depression. It had everything to do with her being a damaged, abysmal failure of a human being who had no level of self-awareness. Speaking of self-awareness, the fact that your takeaway from this situation is that women aren't appreciated enough is extremely concerning. She slaughtered her three children and you seem to be making excuses for her. But we do live in a society that makes endless excuses for women's bad behaviour and never holds them to the same standards as men. Grow up. Is looking after three kids a fulltime job? Yes. Is it often under-appreciated? Yes. But that's not the takeaway from this situation. The three dead children killed by their selfish mother are the takeaway from this situation.
When they’re talking about her daughter and she says “that’s not why I did it” I think she slipped up right there. She claims that she has no idea why she did it yet she’s sure that that wasn’t the reason. If you truly didn’t know why you did something you wouldn’t be able to rule anything out. I think she screwed up when she said that. It tells me that she knows exactly why she did it.
This woman is a malignant narcissist. It is all about her. Her letter is all about her feeling sorry for herself. She never loved those kids. She only loved herself. She killed them just to hurt her ex-husband and current boyfriend. She is just a monster, no excuses.
Exactly! I have witnessed the entire charade that she is putting on many times while working with female offenders. They never accept full responsibility. They always try to push some off on someone else, usually a man. And they tend to get away with doing it.
@@jakemenard2593 Because society at large continues to treat and coddle women as if they're children. Nothing is ever their fault, everything they do had to have been provoked, they're always the true victim in a situation, etc etc. The result of a no accountability/responsibility culture.
Do you suppose Chris would agree with you? He said she was a superb mother, and that that was the reason he stayed with her. I tend to avoid the "it was all a lie" narrative when we're talking about a period of time spanning almost a decade.
The older kid’s bio dad FAILED to protect his children. He knew she had mental illness. He knew she had a history of delusional thoughts. Yet, he didn’t go to court and fight for his kids. He bears some responsibility.
@ImaRandomFemalelook I get it you want everything to be men's fault even in this case where the women has been an actual demon all her life. It's crazy to say these men could have did something other than leave. Try taking a mom to court see how that works out with the judge. Especially with no evidence
One thing the boyfriend said irritated me. He texted her saying did u expect me to babysit your kids. They're living together and were in a committed relationship with a new baby together. Yet he still said " babysit ur kids"!
They were in the middle of a fight as well as breaking up, what do you expect? What about their father? What about she's the one with 3 kids so yea if she wants to go out she needs to make sure she finds a babysitter...
@@neilsun2521umm got her psychiatric help. Put her on a three day hold at a facility to be evaluated. They could have stepped up and taken custody, emergency custody. They could have reported her words and behaviors. So much they could have done!
What an evil, manipulative and vindictive b*tch. That letter at the end says it all. She did it to punish him (even though I suspect she had had fantasies of killing those kids for years) and to make him feel guilty for not wanting to be with her. Just heinous! And all that acting to try and blame it on a mental illness was just her way of pretending to be the victim and “insane” so that she could get away with it. That letter gave all the proof of premeditation and there is NO WAY she didn’t remember what she did. She was proud enough of it to send a damn picture! Pure EVIL!!!
If you looked intto Postpartum depression. You would realize she killed them because of it. 6 months after birth is still plenty of time to have it. Learn facts before you make assumptions. You sound more heinous then she does with your judgement without knowledge
@@giraffe_113EVEN if she DID have PPD, SHE KNEW she was having those thoughts! She killed the damn dog! Don't give me that sh!t! That's a damn excuse! She's an evil person & the fact that you actually are defending her makes me sus of you..
@@giraffe_113 I stand by what I said. It was vengeance and this woman showed no genuine remorse at all. She wouldn’t even admit what she did even when the cop suggested it would save them. This woman is trash.
I think what a lot of people are missing is the fact that there was premeditation involved. it doesn’t matter if she wasn’t in her “right mind”, she straight up wrote a letter saying what she was going to do. not to mention that just because someone is suffering with a mental illness, doesn’t mean their actions are okay, they too should take responsibility. And on top of that, if we take away the tone policing, she only cries when she notices someone watching, she has no clear signs of empathy whatsoever or remorse, not verbally or through body language. she legitimately doesn’t care, she explicitly states she knew why she did it and back tracks when coming to remembering? it doesn’t add up at all. she is just really good at manipulating people.
I've got BPD. It's heartbreaking every time I hear it being blamed for a crime. I feel like a monster when I hear it. Living life with this hell of a mental illness is bad enough. Those of us who have it and are actually going to therapy and doing what we can to manage it, I know you're here and I know you're reading this. I hope it strikes you less than it strikes me.
I wouldn’t say it’s ever “blamed” for the actions of a criminal, but it does provide insight into the persons mental state & can be a contributing factor to a crime when not properly treated. It’s rarely ever solely because of the mental illness that someone commits a crime of *this* level. There’s almost always extenuating circumstances and a lack of accountability by the individual and their own mental state. “Your mental illness is not your fault, but it is your responsibility.”
Her having BPD will never be an excuse. I have BPD and the thought of ever doing this to my kids absolutely horrifies me. I am actually in tears after hearing what she did. I hate how BPD has such a bad reputation. Having BPD doesn’t make you a murderer.
Your BPD and hers are not the same, and you can never compare your illness to another person's unless you share the same body and same life. I'm not excusing her behavior, but saying "I have x and they have x and I don't act like them, therefore x was not a factor" is an absolutely ridiculous thing to assert.
I completely agree with your viewpoint. It is unfair to generalize an entire group based on the actions of one person. It is valid to assert that having BPD doesn't make someone a murderer, just as being diabetic doesn't make someone prone to violence. Mental health conditions should not be stigmatized or used to justify harmful actions. Additionally, it is important to note that the individual responsible for the tragedy may have exhibited psychopathic or antisocial traits alongside their BPD, further highlighting the complexity of mental health.
Well unfortunately 74 percent of people with BPD commit acts of violence, usually towards family members. So you might not like that stereotype, but it exists for a reason. Meet my mom, who delighted in torturing me as a child. Also, it isn't just violence, there's mental and emotional abuse that family members of BPD have to deal with. I'm glad you don't physically hurt your children, but that doesn't discount the reality of what's happening with the general population of people with BPD.
@@moonchild457Stop comparing yourself with anyone else. Stop shaming people that you don't even know and you have never walked in their shoes. I have BPD and bipolar. I have severe mental illness and without my meds I am a complete wreck, suicidal, unstable and I had violent thoughts towards one of my children. Yes I was severely abused as a child and by my husband.... So if you are stable and healthy, then thank God, others of us aren't...just keep quiet, or better yet, pray and do something positive to help those who are in need.
Her condescending attitude talking to the detective is so disgusting. And her switching between not remembering, crying, and than catching an attitude depending on the questions shows she is definitely in control and thinks she can manipulate people to go along with her. Truly despicable human
"he cheated on me, I'm going to destroy his world" is what it boils down to. At least 50% of all the EWU stories involve (directly or not) cheating. That being said, it might just be a statistical coincidence. It just so happen that 50% of couple have at least 1 cheating on the other and 100% of murders involve human beings... Therefore, 50% of all murder stories have a cheater... Who knows. Edit, I just Googled it, it's between 30 and 60% of marriages with at least 1 affair... depressing...
If she does have BPD then those switches are not controlled. Her feelings would change moment to moment based on the topic/question. Not manipulation, but definitely an unhealthy human being who should not have had care of kids.
This is beyond evil and sickening. Those poor babies didn't deserve this. This gut wrenching case made me weep. There is absolutely no excuse for this and I believe she should get the death penalty.
I absolutely 10000 percent agree. They shouldn’t have let her off even for a deal. She should have been executed regardless. And if there was a way to execute her 3 more times…. Including an execution for the dog… I’d be in full support of it
@@maryjane4432why "especially" those people? Simply because those were the ones you knew details about and that made _YOU_ feel bad?? There are plenty of other murderers who have committed crimes just as if not more heinous them those you named and said that they "especially" needed to receive the death penalty.
As someone who has Borderline Personality Disorder I can completely feel all of those extreme feelings she had about being loved and denied. BUT not once in my mind did I ever think about murder to make a point. If anything ( and possibly triggering ) I'd often resort to self harm than anything. I've been sober from ✂️ for over 8 years now, so recovery is possible.
I can relate very well. My arms are covered in scars because it was the only answer at the time. Now, people look at my arms and instantly judge me. I get your pain. I still feel pain, but the self-harm has stopped. I hope you're doing well now 🙏🇨🇦
She was totally normal when talking to her mom prior. She remembers exactly what she meant when talking to her mom about women who kill their kids. And she conveniently stops the interview when asked how she understands those women. She killed her kids over a man. She wanted to punish him and she wanted attention, which is why she called to tell him what she did.
It's obvious she is faking being distraught. You can hear the difference between her and her mom. Her mother is clearly trying her best to keep it together, while Jessica is trying to SOUND like she's emotional.
Everything you say is right, but she was also very sick, physically and mentally, and overwhelmed. She admits what she did. I think she was sick. Her relationship was toxic and toxic relationships fuel mental health. She needed intervention sadly that didn't happen.
I might buy that this was some kind of psychotic break that she couldn't remember IF her boyfriend wasn't in the middle of trying to break up with her. Considering the first thing she did was call the boyfriend and send pics of the crime scene, I'm much more inclined to believe she was trying to hurt him.. I'll go ahead and say it Jessica, considering you think no one else will, you're a bad mother. Edit: I just heard what she said about her ex husband and how he should feel guilty for not seeing the kids. I was originally wondering why she would kill the other 2 children if she was trying to hurt the boyfriend, but obviously she was trying to hurt BOTH men. She knew exactly what she was doing and is an absolute monster.
@NeverDoneHomestead Yea it's pretty unimaginable to think a mother could do this just to get back at a couple men, but sadly, the killing of people's own children has become more and more common. It's horrifying
You are 100% correct. She's a narcissist. She may have BPD. But the post-partum diagnoses which weren't diagnosed by a mental health professional that purely conjecture on the part of the narrator. It sounds like she doesn't have any diagnoses when it comes to her mental health. I'll give her one: F**king B***H! I don't think that's in the DSMV though it should be along with AH and SOB.
As someone who works clerical in the medical field, I cannot imagine someone's c-section wound opening up and the hospital just being like "Your doctor is not here. There's nothing we can do." Even if her doctor was gone and every other doctor in the hospital or clinic suddenly dropped dead, the staff would have insured that she got treatment even if it meant calling an ambulance to take her to another hospital.
I know right?! I was so taken back by that statement like I wonder if mom was actually there or if that’s what Jessica told her happened. The hospital can be held liable for that so it’s bizarre if it really happened 😖
EXACTLY. I wouldn't imagine a hospital EVER letting someone go like that because of how MASSIVE the lawsuit would be. I'm sure there's exaggeration on how "open" the scar was or something else. People with BPD are known for being liars, so I wouldn't be surprised if the truth was stretched or just not the truth at all
Honestly after watching this whole episode I wouldn't be so surprised if she deliberately caused the infection and ripped the stiches to get Christophers attention
If you want a one-sentence response from her to tell you exactly what kind of woman she is it's this: Her response to the detectives asking if the two children were alive after she put them in their room.. " well obviously they were if the baby still has a pulse" The vitriol in her voice knowing that even one of the children might end up surviving her selfish awful attack is just so mind-blowing. Any normal human being claiming that they still love their children after they attacked them this way is beyond comprehension. She even sounds frustrated that the baby survived. What a Fμ€K¡NG monster
she remembers everything including the knife but then she forgets, and also its so fucking annoying when people do shit like this and then they say “i could never imagine doing that” ?!?!? like not only did your crazy ass imagine it YOU DID IT
"To this day, they still do not know why she did it." Apparently, what all those doctors really need is a license in COMMON SENSE! She said why in her journal. Her ex-husband didn't spend enough time with his children, her boyfriend cared more about his child, the baby boy. She felt like everybody could come and go and do whatever they wanted while she was the one who did 90% of the responsibility. It was the ultimate act of revenge. Women in prison serving time, for whatever their crime, say the hardest part is missing their children. They don't take kindly to baby killers. They will not only make her life a living hell, but make her wish she should have taken the death penalty.
Same in male prison. Children are missed sorely and people that are child killers aren't looked at favorably at all. Hopefully they make her stay in prison a long and hellish one.
I was raised by a borderline woman who also needed help. Nothing about this case surprises me, after what I survived. She even killed our dog. I’m only terribly sad for the kids, who could’ve been my siblings. EDIT: I can tell you exactly why she did this. She wanted to hurt Chris and Phillip-the men who “abandoned” her-in the worst possible way. She laid the entire crime at Chris’ feet *in writing*. My mom used us to hurt our dad all the time. We were just lucky enough to make it out alive.
Borderlines and functioning society honestly don't seem to mix (and saying this would send them into one of their episodes 🙄). Wasn't that woman who killed the father of her child and then jumped off a cliff with their baby in her arms a borderline? They're just too messed up in the head.
@@adolfussmith1012 So um… I'm diagnosed borderline and could never bring myself to harm another unless they've harmed someone I love or to protect someone who needs it. I am borderline due to past severe trauma and coped with drug use and blocking it out all together. Does this make me “just too messed up in the head.”? I'm sorry to see you believe this to be true. Take care.
Parents committing revenge killings on their children to get back at their spouses are some of the worst people in the world. I hope she gets what's coming to her in prison, because if it gets out about what she did, then I doubt she will be there for long.
Right if she wanted to "punish" the dads and didn't obviously care that much for the kids, why not just send them back to their dads for full custody? Sign away your rights and leave if you really hate them all and don't want the responsibility. You don't have to be violent or kill anyone, holy hell 👀
@@jhoughjr1 I found out recently the phrase is "be all, end all" or "end all, be all". Just thought you might wanna know! 😊 And another I learned is, "for all intents and purposes"... (I had thought it was "for all intensive purposes". Lol😂)
Not only did she remember it, it was premeditated. She did it to hurt/punish the fathers. The letter tells you everything you need to know. Not to mention her jealousy for the other woman.
Omg!!! That beautiful little girl constantly telling her, " i love you mommy" . The fear and confusion that little girl must of gone through.. just broke me
She can recall every detail including texting a bloody pic and calling her boyfriend to tell him the kids were dead, but can’t remember her other actions. Mmmmm???? My heart goes out for those babies who had there whole lives ahead of them…may they RIP!💔 Thanks for sharing this EWU!
The bathub killing and the broken shower door frame was proof that there was a struggle. Also that poor baby clawing her own neck trying to free herself from choking..... insaneee
What she did was completely wrong, but I understand her feelings. This man gave up on his commitment to her and the kids and knew he could easily just walk away. What men fail to realize is women also want to just walk away. We as women also feel caged and don’t want to live in the life we have, but we continue to try our best for our kids and wish our significant others would take notice of this. We can’t easily just walk away like men can because men see it as our kids and only our responsibility. You can see this in Christopher’s text at 16:52 when he texts her “did you really expect me to hand you $60 and babysit your kids”. It’s his money and her kids. And people will say oh he meant her two older kids. No sir, he committed to having a child with her and those kids are an extension of her and you chose one you chose all. So they are his kids now too.
The audacity of this woman to say "I dont think you could find one person in this world who could say im a bad mom". I couldnt find one to say the contrary
Even if parents are wonderful up until the point that they murder or think of murdering their children, that thought or act negates every other good thing. Good parents don't murder or even think of murdering their children. Period.
I can say with a fair certainty that Jessica purposefully murdered those kids and intended to end her life and make Christopher pay and feel remorse by witnessing her dying, or at least attempting to die while he was there. She wanted to hurt him completely and even told him he destroyed their family. The letter tells it all and doesn't indicate that she had an "episode.' She knew what she was doing and it was completely premeditated. Granted, she may have had Borderline Personality Disorder, but the decision to kill her kids was something I guarantee she remembers, no matter how much she wants to fool everyone into thinking she's blocking it out. Her letter is snarky by saying "I hope you'll be happy in your new relationship with Brandy' and wanted to make sure he knew it was his relationship with Brandy that sealed their coffins. There's no doubt in my mind she wanted Chris to pay. The only thing that backfired for her was that she was hoping she'd have the courage to take her own life as well, but ultimately, she failed. The police used nonlethal weaponry to subdue her. She only cut herself just enough to drip blood all over the house and to elicit some sort of horror from Chris when he saw it was all over the floor (most likely her own blood judging by the traveling drips) Lacey had no stab wounds, and the means of killing the kids was primarily ligature and strangulation. Jessica probably walked all over the house deliberately dripping everywhere just to make the house look horrifying. Her mother had already offered to take the kids for the night, so she can't even use the excuse that the kids would still be alive if he'd wanted to watch all 3. At that point, she already had it in her head that she was going to kill her kids and take them with her, then end her own life, but not before her husband came home, looked her in the eyes and realized he actually had destroyed the entire family (as she described in her letter). This was a murder suicide gone wrong. But since she wasn't able to kill herself, she realized she was now stuck with the prospect of having to live without her kids anyway, and she was STILL going to lose Chris. At that point, she just melted into a pity party of denial and decided she'd play the "I can't remember any of it' card.
I agree with this. Though of course we'll never really know. Post partum psychosis does happen but from what I recall from other 'stories', it doesn't tend to look like this. She seems too lucid. IMO! xD
I have borderline personality disorder... and 100% functional as well as a pleasure to be around. Self control is lost usually with drugs and meds about 99% of the time. They merely just hold a persona that they think everyones wants to see but the control over their life was lost long ago. Acting for so long makes these psychos snap. They just get tired of it cuz its like a jail they know they keep themselves in but dont know how to get out and when they do break out it looks like this. Not usually this bad but thats what's sad, it's a another bad example of what this world is full of. Troubled people on weird ass drugs and alcohol.. Smoke some organic weed and go to bed already people....
The fact that Lacey repeatedly told her evil witch of a mother that she loved her in terror before she was murdered…my heart. How can such monsters live among us? 💔
Human potential for great and unspeakable things is sadly quite unlimited. Like if there's a story like this and one would think, surely there can't be anyone worse than this, someone will step up to the challenge, or has already and we don't know it yet.
Phillip, "I have a new baby" - Cannot make his child support payments to his current two kids, yet has the wisdom to father another child. I know this is not the focal point of the video, but as an aside, it baffles and saddens me how these kinds of people impulsively jump into relationships and create fractured families that experience more pain than joy in life just by being completely irresponsible. And this mentality is spreading like a virus.
When he was paying it was like 100-200 a week apparently, I feel like that is so little. Also Jessica having a new baby with all this postpartum issues and low income, yeah it is very sad how impulsive they act with such an important decision
Yeah not gonna lie, I feel bad for the kids bc it seems like all the parents were shitty overall but mom obviously was the worst. Mom being the worst doesn’t negate the shitty behavior of the exhusband and boyfriend; it just means they all suck and some just suck more.
@@beautyengineer2198 i think she also might have actually been bipolar, her mom mentioned it but she didnt know if it was actually diagnosed and Jessica said she was, even doe again its not clear if jessica is saying that she was diagnosed with it or not. EWU made it confusing by inserting his belief that it was actually borderline personality disorder even doe nothing for the actual investigation showed by him mentioned that. Like i dont mind presenting that bit with the similarities as a additional information but his commentary after focused on it being actually being BPD.
@@TheNovgorodian Well not being diagnosed by it doesn't necessary mean she doesn't have it... If you don't see a doctor nobody can diagnose it. As she said she also doesxn't use any medication, it's pretty likely she never went to a doctor. Which is pretty common I'd say. Most don't want to believe they are mentally ill cause it is still not socially accepted or even believed in.
she is a narcisstic psychopath. she also complains, she doesnt have any friends, and the kids were her only friends. you see, that's why its bad they are gone to her. Thats that first reason she offers after butcherin them. she only processes the entire situation for herself, not for them. She says she cant believe she killed ALL the kids. As if it would be only bad suddenly, or some increase in being problematic, that she actually killed ALL of them. thats, she says, makes it bad_ i am the person who killed all my kids. she is unable to think about standard basic moral emotions like an even semi-normal person. she is just imitating what society has taught her about that whole "the kids are MY LIFE" business. like that Chris Watts guy a bit, everyone thought he lived for his family too. He really didnt not did this lady. Maybe, she's also sick in the sense of borderline or something like that, maybe thats even quite possible, but that's not explaining all of this. She is that psychopath and narcisst. Weir so many fair responses on her seem to miss that somewhat. She still has people fooled, it seems. I guess because the deed is so disturbing and because she whimpers. But she is just evil too.
People with BPD NEVER accept responsibility unless they are trying to manipulate a situation. No one but people who have dealt with people that have BPD on a personal level will tell you the truth about BPD.
This her fault but he is no angel, he’s got a 5 month old and a mentally ill wife at home and he’s flirting and being inappropriate with a coworker. Plus, way he spoke about her two children reveals a lot about him. He’s a prick.
@@Bryan-lj9jn That's not true for everyone with BPD. I have it and would never do that. Stop blaming mental illness and blame evil people instead because it creates an extremely negative stigma.
I really do think if someone has not been thru postpartum depression it’s so hard to understand. You aren’t yourself, these thoughts are vile and you feel like a monster. But acting on these thoughts I will NEVER understand, everyone can think some shitty things but going thru with them is another story.
Very well said. After my first was born I had visions of hurting her with a knife and I knew at that point I needed major help and I got it thank goodness. I can't even imagine now how I was thinking like that but ppd is a very real horrific illness.
People always say that like postpartum depression is an excuse for anything. Gimme a break, I know men and women that have pretty much been to hell and back their whole lives that end up depressed as hell yet still manage to be some of the best people I know. Letting your mind control you like that is just pure weakness. If someone can be abused in all manners from birth until adulthood and manage to become a well intended functioning member of society, women should be able to handle some feelings after the birth of their child. You can call me insensitive if you want but I know what these people have went through and I can assure you postpartum ain’t that serious in comparison. Tired of people acting like it gives women an excuse to be insane.
Hearing her say "everyone would tell you I am a great mother" made my skin crawl. A good mother would never harm their children under ANY circumstances, let alone murder them. She clearly did this to get Chris`s attention and hurt him for hurting her and wanting to leave her. Not to mention her weird feelings that her ex husband would not care because he "didnt come around". She deserves the death penalty.
I believe there is no such thing as a good mom. Every parent has good things and bad things In their personality. While this lady is absolutely crazy and most cases aren't this extreme, there are very few if any people who have not a single thing they wish their parents would change or apologize for.
@@affectingsolidMy Parents are were amazing. I had the BEST childhood. And now they are amazing grandparents to my kids and my husband has amazing parents too. I absolutely adore my in laws. So not everyone has childhood trauma 😂I mean I don't live in the US maybe there's that. 🤷♀️
@@nataliekenny7490 I'm not talking about trauma itself but you can't tell me there's not a single opinion or action or belief of your parents' that you would change if you could. Whether that be them working too much and having a demanding job or them not pursuing their own lifelong dreams. My mother was wonderful, but labeling things as with good or bad ignores that there is both in every situation and person. I'm coming at this from a philosophical perspective, but yeah being in america I have watched a lot of my friends live through childhoods that I just could not.
@@affectingsolidyes you absolutely can summarize and describe someone as good even though they may have a few less than desirable qualities. No one is ever perfect. Nothing is, really. I cannot believe that you don't ever label someone or something as good or bad based on an overall experience. This is how the world works and describes people, places, things, and feelings. If you can't, then maybe you need to get yourself checked out. Are you on the spectrum? Do you have depression?
@@AlwaysCheckmateNeverStalemateow maybe you need to get checked out this is extremely rude. Alot of people view others this way because humans are on instinct selfish greedy creatures so you look at them neutral. Example you are rude for no reason expect you don't agree with someone but we didn't know till now.
This is so sad and horrifying... I have gone through three live births, and had PPD all 3 times, but honestly, there is an EXTREME FEAR of having your kids taken that stops many of us from speaking up about how severe our depression and psychosis has gotten. Much sooner than give real counseling, you'll have CPS on your doorstep, which is a terrifying thing, regardless. But we also need to be able to recognize when our depression and mental illness has gotten so bad that we might NEED those interventions to help us regain reality...My third child was diagnosed with Spina Bifida at 24 weeks, and we had fetal surgery at 25 to save as much of hos lower limb function and it's the greatest achievement of my life, to lay my body down for his in that way... But it meant an 8 inch, hip to hip incision, where he was tucked back inside to continue growing as I essentially recovered from a Csection while still carrying him, and he was delivered at 37 weeks, by reopening 4 inches of that incision... I had my tubes tied on the table so I would hopefully never have to go through another csection, but the recovery from those back to back surgeries was so much harder than I expected, plus I was learning to care for a newborn with a physical disability, navigating the world of being a medical parent, with a toddler, and a school aged child in tow... When my son was 13 months old, his care team discovered he had severe anemia, which turned out after countless tests, was congenital, diamond blackfan anemia, but in the first few months after we nearly lost him (because his initial presentation of anemia was so severe, and because he still requires monthly transfusions and is facing an upcoming bone marrow transplant), I was struggling seriously with my mental health, mainly out of sheer fear, and still being on the tail end of the physical recovery from the hard pregnancy and birth... and i became abusive towards my husband, and that brought me into the eye of CPS, and honestly, rightly so... We had to rearrange our lives while we were investigated, and my MIL moved in with us. When the investigation concluded, we had monthly meetings with a social worker in our home, and that felt humiliating, but I am grateful for the reality checks that came along with the scrutiny. I'm now in anger management, and I've been able to start delegating my tasks like switching from homeschool (kindergartners in a pandemic! EEK!) to public school, and accepting the help available to me, like the anger management group, and I've connected online with countless other medical moms and moms in unique parenting situations, and it has helped me, and my family a lot. Please don't be ashamed to admit you are depressed, and to get actual help with it. We don't need nights out drinking with friends, we need genuine support, and to see that we aren't the only ones going through hardships, and that those hardships are only temporary. My heart breaks for everyone involved in this, even the mother, because this does not happen in an instant. That situation can happen to even the "best" of us, when we can't get the support we need, and in her case, that was probably psychotherapy and antipsychotics... I pray that these fathers who are missing their babies have been able to recover their lives after having such a huge portion taken from them. GET HELP IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE STRUGGLING, WELL BEFORE YOU REACH THE BREAKING POINT.
Many people in these comments lack proper respect for the mother at hand. Though she is horrible for doing this, she was in pain and lacking support from all of her loved ones. This could’ve been avoided had someone paid closer attention. My heart goes out to everyone, I hope her children are at peace.
Bless You Mama for all your sacrifices! Wish all the best, and as to your to youngest, had similar issues from birth and was parents were told I'd never walk. All I can tell you is, no matter how hard it is to do, DON'T MAKE THINGS TOO EASY FOR HIM. ❤️🙏💞
@lulumoon6942 thank you for your words of encouragement! As far as making things easy, the director of the sb clinic at unc where we had our surgery told me the same thing. Equal treatment and accountability to his siblings, for sure.
Well men who wants to bring children in the world back to back knowing what it does to a woman’s body and mental health and then decides to leave instead of getting them into a treatment is part to blame.
@@CAPTINjacksparrow yes the woman murdered her children but years ago a man hurt her and he is partially responsible. REALLY!!!! SMH most ridiculous comment I have seen in awhile.
I have serious doubts that this is postpartum psychosis, but even if it were, she's a monster through and through. She did this to get back at her boyfriend, bottom line. Andrea Yeates, who absolutely had postpartum psychosis, has been in prison for I don't know how many decades. When they wanted to release her she refused. She understands the horrific nature of what she did to her children. Her, I actually have some empathy for. This lady, "I don't know what happened to the children. I don't know if I did it." Bullshit. She planned it because her man was about to leave her.
This was definitely not ppp. Ppp killings don't happen for revenge, women who kill their kids bc of ppp generally don't realize they're doing it and it's always based on delusions. Like they believe something like their baby is actually a demon imposter and killing "it" is the only way to save their baby. They often snap out of it later, usually in a hospital bc they hurt themselves too, and start asking where their child/ren are not realizing she killed them. It's truly a horrific thing. These women genuinely love their babies and would normally never even think about hurting them and often have delusions that lead them to believe that they're actually helping their child/ren, not killing or hurting them. A revenge killing isn't done bc of delusions, unless the reason for needing revenge is a delusion itself. Ppp is too often used as an excuse where it's not actually the case.
It pisses me off how many women try to use ppp as a defense where it clearly wasn't the case, bc it makes real cases of ppp seem like any old type of murder and makes it harder for those women to fight their cases properly
@@HikingFeral Killing someone let alone your kids and using PP depression is an excuse plain and simple, Thousands and thousands of women make it through PP depression without killing anyone
This woman had violent thoughts for *years* and she wrote that letter in advance. This was premeditated, cold-blooded, and pure evil. I'd believe post-partum psychosis if her behavior suddenly changed after the baby was born, but this wasn't new. Her family just didn't believe that she'd actually do it.
My mother was diagnosed manic depressive, amongst other things - I believe this is what is called bipolar these days, this was in the late80s/early90s. She was terrifying. She could go from sweet-as-pie to wanting to slit your throat because you breathed the wrong way in her presence. Sometimes it was physical, sometimes sexual, sometimes just verbal humiliation, devaluation. There was no way to calm her, you just had to try to survive until it blew over and she'd act like nothing had ever happened and why was I causing problems for everyone by bringing it up. Lots of times I think she came close to killings us both. I understand deeply the terror these kids went through and it's highly likely this was not the first time they felt endangered by her. Edited to ad: to the people trying to re-explain my experiences or tell me I'm giving her the wrong diagnosis or tell me 'not all bipolar people," these are MY experiences and this is what my mother's DOCTORS DIAGNOSED HER with and of course 'not all bipolar people,' - I never said it was all of you, in the same way talking about one man who was abusive isn't indicative of all men.
So sorry you experienced that trauma as a child. Those kinds of traumatic experiences follow us into adulthood. You are obviously a survivor! I pray you received help for any lasting effects. May you have a joyful life now…🤗& when hard times come may u have a strong support system.
I went through severe post natal depression ang getting a voice in my head telling me my baby daughter had ruined my life and to just smother her…. I remember sitting on my hands on the stairs and rocking … I didn’t do it but I live with the guilt that I even had such thoughts. I didn’t tell anyone as I was so ashamed. There were so many red flags with this lady and no one in her family or the fathers acted on anything or reported it even when she was constantly saying she wanted to kill her children ! Hormone imbalances are very real postpartum depression can be devastating as in this case 😢
She slipped at times. First, she'd say she didn't remember (in a croaking fake cry voice). Then she'd answer a question that proved she absolutely remembered (and did so with a regular voice). Cold-blooded.
It is important to know that some people's evil deeds are NOT always driven by mental illness but by evil itself, please remember this when sentencing this woman. I suffer with Bi-polar for nearly 30 years and I would NEVER dream of doing what this evil witch has done
I’m so tired of mental health problems being the only cause for evil. Some people are just sick fucks. Many people just are not meant for the civilized world.
Everyone that has a mental illness isn’t the same just because a psychiatrist or therapist or psychologist says so and some stupid dsm standard says so
That's right i hate it when killers blame their upbringing on their deeds, i was abused as a child and i have autism too, but there's no way i'd even consider killing someone. the only 2 reasons for taking a life one would be to protect an innocent party or self defence, there is no other excuse for taking anyone's life
@@kimberlymartin7498 Both father's? Doubt it. They were both very called and casual, during and after. They did not act as a person in shock would. Watch all their interviews and listen to all their calls.
Well the one guy was in the military and was riding in a car trying to stay calm. That's why he said "drive normal, drive normal". He's trying not to freak out.
yup. They both come across as complete jerks. Chris absolutely was by telling her that "her" kids had to leave the house. I'm willing to bet money he said stuff like that all the time. All 3 of them are weirdos in my opinion.
19:11 You can tell her response upsets the detective, and I don’t blame him. Her response is like how a bratty teenager would talk to their mom. “Ooooobviously they were if the baby still had a pulse” I wanted to punch her through my screen.
I was abused, publicly humiliated, cheated on & left by my son’s dad. I never had any thought to harm my son because of the crappy situation I put myself in. I took my L & learned my lesson! Those poor children had to witness the one person in the world that they’re supposed to be able to trust harm them. 😢
@@truthteller9071 Who says he didn't? She just murdered her kids to get back at her boyfriend and can't help but to trash her husband. The lack of perspective on her part is disgusting, and even if he was a crappy absentee father that's a far cry from the evil she committed.
@@ACVRG1Oh for heaven’s sake, stop with the women-hating nonsense. There are plenty of bad apples of both sexes. What about that man who killed his 3 kids not that long ago?
Rest in peace, poor sweet babies. I really don’t believe she was in any kind of psychosis. She was only crying for herself after it happened and looking for sympathy. When you feel genuine shame, you don’t go fishing for people to reassure you. She’s just a monster who knew how to hide it until she couldn’t.
Her letter tells the story that she wanted to punish Chris, she was angry that he was interested in Brandy and wanted him to feel that it was his fault that she “had to” murder those children, that it was him, not herself, that murdered those children. The last lines of saying that she hopes they have a happy life together is an obvious lie, she wanted Chris to be miserable. It says exactly what she intended. Evil. She fully knew what she was doing and she will live with that for the rest of her life. She had no love for those children, but she wants everyone to believe that she did. Ugh!
She's a narcissistic borderline. Like all borderlines, she has a limited ability to cope with stress. On top of that, 28:00 She doesn't know why she did it, "I love my children, I have no reason why": like many borderlines, SHE HAS A VERY POOR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY her actual feelings. She killed them bc she was angry and fed up, and was unable to cope, and was threatened with abandonment, too. Classically, a borderline would self harm, or try to commit suicide as a way to cope with emotions. But she's not typical: she has narcissistic traits and antisocial traits too, with all those thefts, and prison time. That makes her the worst kind of borderline: the worst ones are narcissistic borderlines.
BPD is just something she had, it isn't a license to do this. This is from an evil piece of crap. BPD is not to blame, she is! Correlation doesn't equate to causation.
tbe problem is that even if she did the mother would have killed some other time because it clearly was premeditated... poor kids they never stood a chance with that psycho
This is no mother this is a monster. The way she was so casually speaking with the detective was chilling to listen to. My heart breaks for the poor children, may they rest in peace. 🙏
Depression, PTSD, having a painful, open wound, caring for 3 children and husband, being dependent on drug... wow. But when you have some minutes to yourself, those dark thoughts come and take your mind away. Those thoughts stay at the back of your brain, waiting for the last thing... which happened when she was told that she was not wanted, not loved anymore. She is guilty. So are everybody around her.
Damn, that father saying his didn’t want to babysit “her kids” rubbed me the wrong way. If you’re going to be in a relationship with someone who has kids then you should be prepared to treat them as your own. The lack of care for them is disgusting. Not nearly as disgusting as the mother, but still…
hey shaniqua, you do your kids, don t expect anybody to take take of them for you. These american women are crazy, like the whole world owes them something. your comment shows how some women should never be mothers.
@@rosee7256 I get that, but surely you have a friend or a brother? There has to be men you trust. I've babysat my nieces and nephews and it's great fun, the kids love it.
Judging by the letter it seems to me that she did this to get back at Chris. And in my opinion it was pretty well premeditated. Absolutely unbelievable. Rip three little angels. Thank you EWU Crime Storytime ⭐
I don’t know about other moms but I’ve never gone around bragging about how great of a mom I am and how much I love my daughter! I regret working so hard and missing mom and daughter time but it never crossed my mind to hurt her and harm her. I’ve been a single mom for 10 years, no government help, no food stamps, no child support, I still think about those days and I say to myself HOW TF DID I MAKE IT WORK ALL BY MYSELF? 😢😢😢
She sounds like a petulant child who wasn't used to being rejected. She wanted to punish him and get back at him. So she took it out on the children because she really wanted to hurt him. She did not want to stay home and take care of the children and was very upset that her boyfriend was going out with his friends instead and leaving her alone with the kids. This was completely premeditated.and she killed them to take revenge. In her interrogation with the detective she gets defensive everytime his questioning gets too intense and hits close to home.
Her: "Let me make this clear, I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT do this to get back at him, I DID NOT" Cop: "Okay, why did you do it?" Her: "I don't know ..." Laughable, really. If you listen to the purpose behind what (and how) she speaks, it's clear she did this to hurt him. And yet, she refuses to admit it, even though it doesn't matter. And the way she gets mad at people asking questions ... really reminds me of Sarah Boone; "it was NOT .. INTENTIONAL .."
I got this same vibe when the detective said "he feels pretty guilty" and she responded with he should as if that was the pint of all of this was to hurt him and make him feel bad for his part
The self pity exhibited throughout this entire thing has been literally sickening. I am a total stranger looking at the pictures of these three little innocent angels and the tears are pouring down my face while the murderer played the 'I don't remember' card and tried, not very well, to take a cowardly way out with a botched suicide. I honestly couldn't give a s**t about her mental health issues. She is a monster and I truly hope she is getting the kind of treatment that child killers are afforded by fellow inmates in prison. So glad she escaped the death penalty as it would have been way too easy for her - let her suffer till her dying day for her premeditatad slaughter of these three babies who must surely be resting in peace.
I can not fathom how those children felt... How scared, how betrayed, how sad... I am literally holding back tears. It broke my heart when they said that her daughter just kept telling her how much she loved her before she killed her... All children deserve LOVING parents, but not all parents deserve their children. Rest in peace, sweet babies. I'm so sorry.
You moved on from this family already? Your heart ok? I can only assume you’re barely alive with your heart being broken watching these videos and they’re all the same.
A woman who has severe mental issues, has been depressed for years, struggling alone to take care of 3 kids including a new born, breadwinner, driving her husband around, serving everyone no stop. An ex husband who doesn’t pay alimony properly, that after his kids are dead doesn’t drop one single tear. An actual husband who abuses her mentally, making her believe she has no worth, is cheating on her,threatening to leave her, says he doesn’t want her kids in the house… considering she suffers from boarderline that makes her completely emocional dependent, loosing sight of reality and being extremely impulsive you people are surprised this happened? She snapped. It’s called psychosis break. I honestly think the two guys had to been arrested and her gone to psychiatric treatment. This is what society does to women and mothers making them invisible and exploiting them to the limit of mental break down. Poor woman.
Finally someone noticed how full of shit were those guys. When she was in jail the kids were with grandparents. The father didn’t give a shit. What she did was fucked up beyond any recognition, but her mind must have been one black ball full of sadness and despair.
Nothing breaks my heart more than to hear stories that involve innocent children. There is no deeper sadness than this. RIP to these children, I cannot imagine the terror they went through.
She knew EXACTLY what she was doing and why. She was a horrible, selfish person who pretended to be a good mother, all the while evil lurked inside her. She lies about not remembering. She did it to get back at the husband. Rest in peace beautiful innocent babies. 🙏
Exactly.Not the first time I still remember the woman who drowned her two kids because she thought her boyfriend will leave her.Of course there were many similar cases between then and now but that one sticks because it was before the net.
@@Heavens-Humanaterian-Armyare you serious or being sarcastic? If you're serious, you're dead wrong. The fathers of her children didn't do anything to her - SHE did this , her and her alone
Do you agree, that nowadays everybody seems to have a disorder. Or a name for it. How is this possible? And how is it posibble that so many people get prescripted drugs for anxiety and sleeping problems etc? Seems to me, like nobody can survive anymore, without alcohol, meds, drugs, etc, to cope with their pains...Real life. Sad story this was. Red flags to be found. But whomever expects this? Nobody. Chris guy said multiple times to her, allegedly, that she was nothing. Brandy girl was. With discussions. How you can trash eachother, while being mad.... Also a quote: "you mean everything to me". She 'showed' to Christopher, that he meant more to her, then her kids. So crazy. Because you should always have your kids at number 1. And in the story, she obviously did in the past. She was agreat mom. How is it possible, to lose it like that? Killing your own 3 children. Just so sad.
What she did is so so horrific and she didn't deserve to see day light again but the fact that Chris ran in and checked on the kids but he only took the baby outside to do CPR. And then the text messages to her about she had to take her kids for the night and Chris was going to stay with the baby; he wasn't going to babysit HER kids. That's insanely FKD UP!! its NEVER NEVER EVER EVER a reason to kill anyone but the BF, she could claim insanity due to the verbal and mental abuse.
I have so much respect and compassion for the First Responder's that tried so hard to save these babies. I cannot imagine the horror and images that they have to carry for the rest of their lives. That poor Daddy too...speechless, how do you ever get past this horror?! R.I.P. little angels...
I think she knew exactly what she did and also how evil it was. One sign for that is the fact that she covered all of her kids with blankets so she didn't have to look at them anymore.
@@carrieandreasen9820normally yes but in this case no it’s so she can’t see what she did and it also proves she knew exactly what she did as if she had an episode she wouldn’t do that it wouldnt cross her mind especially after seeing what she just did it would break her she should be on the ground unable to move yet the kids are all covered
How is she even able to talk?? And not be a complete mess, anxiety ridden … I mean the way she talks about it and how angry she gets when talking about the BF. This is absolutely chilling. Her handwriting is pretty neatly written, too. Not shaky & in distress. It’s like she was calm about the murder. Those poor babies 😭😭😭😭
People with Borderline or well, just plain evil people, can be amazing at convincing themselves that they didn't do anything wrong, or rather that they are in the right of doing what they did. Like this "mother", she wrote down how it's perfectly fine for her to leave the world but not without dragging her kids with them and it wouldn't be a big deal to the father. So instead of doing the more decent thing and only minecrafting herself she wanted to cause maximum pain while only thinking about herself. A wicked witch indeed.
Right?!?! Ice cold. If I went into psychosis for some bizarre reason and God forbid hurt my children they better have me strapped on a bed in a padded room in a high security nuthouse because not even Jesus himself would stop me from ending myself out of absolute despair. Ugh, just thinking about it makes me queasy 🤢
To hear her daughter saying I love you mommy I love you broke me down to tears. The fear that went through those kid is so heartbreaking . Her jealousy and insecurities doesn't merit the right to off her kids. My heart goes out to those beautiful children. This case left me unnerved and frankly pissed. She remembers and now she'll remember every moment of it for the rest of her life in prison. She should have gotten the death penalty.
@@hypsyzygy506 Indeed, and who knows maybe she can be even beneficial in one way or another by being an example of what not to do. By this I obv. not only mean to not harming (or worse) your (or someone else's) children but to instead seek out psychological help to either get fitting therapy or medication to keep those "demons" at bay and under control.
It's unbelievable. I struggle with mental issues, and unfortunately had PPD, but you have child(ren) when you are prepared to let go of your "life" for the one(s) you grow in your body. It's wild to me, because hearing your child say "I love you mama" is the 2nd best thing I've ever experienced. Hearing her cry post birth (she made it!), being placed on my chest and immediately stopped crying, me holding her tiny hands & body in my arms, and the moment she opened her eyes and looked right at me. I didn't know they opened their eyes so soon! We just started at each other, and I told her how much I will always love her. So when your baby is finally old enough to say "I love you mama", it's literally a reminder of every moment you've shared with the life you brought into this world. It's amazing. My girl just turned 2, so I guess I'm just still in that amazed moment. But she melts me everytime she says that and blows a little kiss. I couldn't imagine the evil in your heart to hurt such a little life. Specifically one you created & nourished with your own body. It's nonsensical. Get help (mental/family if available), or just flat out leave. There's no reason to resort to such evils. She deserves whatever happens to her in prison. Just like the men, the ladies also "handle" those that harm innocent little ones... If you're incapable of parenting, just leave. Please.
She claims mental illness but her words in her letter expose that she is hateful and vindictive and narcissistic wanting everyone to believe she was a victim and that she loves everyone so much….that is not love,call it whatever you want but it is self serving and hateful.
Her note basically said ‘I didn’t kill my kids, you did’ as a psychological game. It’s a narcissistic way to stint her own responsibility so she wouldn’t have to feel guilt for what she did. She’ll play victim to get validation that she’s right, that she’s not a nasty person and coerce people to goad for her and tell her she’s not. Manipulation, they’re masters at it, like *really* and it’s scary. I know this extremely well because my mother is that type. Luckily, I was able to live, grow and get away with a few scars. It’s a very intense game of chance surviving mothers like that. They’re far better at an arms length, that’s if you can make it past being a child, imprisoned powerlessly under the supervision of unnecessary evil. Don’t trust Facebook moms who post everyday about loving her kids, because the brutal reality is, she really doesn’t.
Often wondered how a mom could spend a lot of time on social media and feel like she was isolating from the little ones or avoiding necessary housework…
I know very well what your talking about my daughter was like that thankfully she abandoned her children into my care and they are safe happy and want for nothing i wish you nothing but the best 💖
The fact that she continued to stay with a man who didn't care for the 2 kids that weren't biologically his says pretty much all you need to know about where her priorities stood when it came to her kids
Are you fucking kidding me? This woman brutally murdered her innocent children and clearly has no remorse...and your comment is to bad mouth the guy?? Wtf is wrong with you? Sicko.
The fact that she’s so calm and collected and not at all upset screaming and flipping the eff out like most normal moms goes to show you just how insane she truly is. She knows exactly what she did. And she did it because she was resentful toward her own children for them being kids and her having to be a mother. She killed the infant,her bfs baby to hurt him. She’s completely off her rocker. I feel so bad for all involved.
Just because someone doesn't respond to a traumatic event like you want them too doesn't mean theyre crazy. Not defending her at all but the fact she isn't screeching isn't what makes her guilty
She remembers everything that night, down to the knife, but you don't remember anything about killing your babies. She's not crazy, she's conniving.
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Yes, she is. She killed her kids because her bf didn't want her
NONE of them ever 'remember' doing the crimes they do, even when its fully planned out ahead of time. Its because if they explain what really happened they would look like an absolute monster, because they ARE!
You can have psychotic attacks and be ashamed for what you did. The process in your mind is blacking out the memories due to guilt. That's called dissociation. She can also be both, crazy and conniving.
@mariamuller1056 She has selective memory the bloody murderer, sheknows Exactly what she did and how, the Electric chair should be waiting forn her
These videos are SO well made!
- No distracting music
- No dramatization
- Very well edited
- minimal voiceover/captions that precisely highlight important clues
- explains crucial info i.e. interrogation techniques or background info
Thank you
@@seymourdemonica9264 Totally agree. They lean heavily into the "True crime voice" where everything has to be delivered with a grizzled voice. Also everything is a "fateful night/day". They do good work but could do way less on the dramatization, the cases are powerful enough without trying to hit us with the oohs and ahhs.
I can’t stand the watermark in the middle of the screen though. Never seen any other channel do that. It will make me not watch their videos. :(
@@dimattia11people be stealing their videos and not giving them credit, they have to watermark them. there is a whole team of professionals that work on these videos and contribute. they have millions of subscribers and get millions of views, i’d watermark them too
@@only1kristen I get it but it’s annoying to have to look through. They could do it smaller and not in the middle of the video.
@@dimattia11 make it smaller so someone can cover it with a different watermark? that’s literally what people would do.
I have boardeeline personality disorder. My dad always told me my diagnosis is not an excuse. I went to therapy for DBT therapy. Changed my LIFE. having BPD is not a valid excuse for ANY kind of violence. EVER.
Sofiar3176 - I am - very - proud of you! Well done! I hope you have a peaceful, good life. You did the work. You had the courage and you did it! ❤️💯
BPD here and most borders internalise their emotions.... Ive never physaically lashed out , ill hurt myself before anyone. Kids..... Im too passionate against child abuse ... Can we please stop using BPD for any crime a female does. I see it constantly and its why so many say nothing. ergh... Its a day to day constant work . Well done! Its incredibly hard to manage esp at the start.
yah a diagnosis is only temporary as we are constantly healing as creatures of nature, this nature is so influenced by free will that you can trap yourself between a rock and a hard place, by depending too much on labels of diagnosis, it can almost do the opposite of ground you, IN SOME SITUATIONS, i don't know your situation this comment just made me have these thoughts
And what about if you ended up with postpartum psychosis? People with bipolar disorder have a much higher rate of PPP, which many women try to just power through. The fact that she let others know of her thoughts about killing her children, her clear depression, you don’t know how you would behave in that situation. Perhaps educate yourself on PPP and PPD, it could happen to you.
@@person35790 exactly the point. She was fully aware how her thinking was....it's her responsibility to seek treatment..... Kids safety is priority.. I see no justification but her timing and jealousy shines through.
As an RN myself I always love when these initial interrogations happen in hospital while it seems as though the suspect might still be hooked up to a vitals monitor… because you can often hear the heart rate changes as they go off into a lie or approach a topic they don’t want to address…. Those alerts (if actually hooked up to the suspect speaking) can be a good indicator of true feelings
Like a biological lie detector.
@@mintmacaron561 as opposed to a normal lie detector?
You can’t use that in court. I’m sure that would be stressful in general. Everyone knows polygraphs (same premise) give false negatives and positives all the time. Especially if you are prone to anxiety and stuff. That would just tell you someone might be anxious. Which is normal when talking to the cops.
@ I don’t think anyone has ever mentioned trying to use it in court lol I was just saying it was funny to hear their reactions to the questions on a monitor
Exactly, just like a polygraph
"Lacey persistently told her mother how much she loved her" - that makes me want to sob. I have a 7 year old girl. The idea of a poor child knowing how much danger she was in and trying to placate her mother is heartbreaking.
I have a 2yo and 30 times a day she will like walk past or “hug attack” me as she calls it saying “I love you momma” like excuse me this child is my entire life no way would I ever raise my hand to her let alone worse 💯
I've got a young son. When I come home from work it's "Daddy! Daddy! Hi Daddy! Daddy Look!" I get that crazy immense anger sadness sickness just thinking of something bad happening to my kids. My family is very literally my world. This psycho b**** deserves scaphism only after being tortured for days.
That was heart wrenching, bless that baby girl 🙏
@@tarzan9494 Just wait for it...the toddler and preschool power struggles.
Toddler and pre school is heaven compared to pre teen just started menstruation little angel that I love so very much and am terrified at same time:) all stages are tough beautiful fun rewarding challenging and so much more. Anyone that can harm a child in any way doesn't deserve to exist. No measure wouldn't be taken if someone tried to hurt my kids. This is the ultimate in heartbreaking
“I don’t think you can find one person who would call me a bad mom” 😭. Lady, you took your children out! You’re the definition!
She’s no lady. She’s a beast.
@@AlaFrigginBama facts!
@@lucetothebridge that is a good point! You are correct!
Once she’s in jail serving life I’ll find her and send her screenshots of all the comments just to remind her of how evil she is and viewed.
She's not a bad mom she's a wicked evil one...
My brother is paramedic and firefighter, and he was on this call. Let’s just say everybody on this scene needed therapy afterwards. It was heartbreaking.
Bless
@@ohwell94my thoughts keep going to him. He is no prince either. He will watch his kids but wants her kids gone. I’m sorry that is as shitty as it gets. He was also totally lacking in support after her complications. I can’t blame him but he is also responsible. His mistreatment of her and her children is rude, immature and completely amoral. Can you jail him up for a little bit for anything. Something is out of place with him, can’t put my finger on it other than his obvious abusive meanness. He is a creep
I cant even imagine what it was like
@@deniseconsultant1538PTSD🙄
Please thank your brother for me, because in general being a paramedic/firefighter can be so challenging, let alone having to work with cases like this; I hope him and everyone else that worked on this case are doing ok
The infant child fighting so hard for his life but could not recover..... Pierce my Heart to the core
I can’t imagine what the children went through. The terror of watching your mom do that to your siblings and then come for you. This is beyond sick, beyond evil and it’s so hard to even comprehend.
I can`t imagine the horror that Chris Watts kids felt !! Ya can`t compare but maybe CW was worse.
they are both just as bad but ya al I think of is poor Bella and cece .. Bella was allegedly last@@gib59er56
Why even compare that? @@gib59er56
She gave herself away when she was talking about the ex husband after the detective told her he’d talked to him. Her whole demeanor changed there for a second and you could hear the satisfaction in her voice that she’d punished him and the baby’s father. She’s pure evil, not crazy.
Yea it reminds me of the case from last year where a guy shot all his girlfriends kids including an infant in a crib because she broke up with him. The cops were crying and almost having panic attacks because of the scene. They caught him at the apartment tho.
Post partum psychosis will make you paranoid. Vindictive and literally do and say things completely evil. I'm not excusing what happened. I'm saying she was psychotic caused by a chemical imbalance in her brain after having the last child. She may have even had post partum with her other 2? She apparently also has BPD NPD and other mental health problems.
@@lovelyladyguido Amazing. There is literally nothing a woman can do in this world, no matter how evil or vile, that another woman won't justify and play defense for. She's a fucking monster, this ain't no PPP bullshit.
@@Avenging_Archer You got that right. Blame it on the men. It's always our fault. 😂
DP only appropriate punishment
The first female detective worked her like a pro. I can’t imagine having to look a child murderer in the eyes & say ‘I understand’. That’s a mental strength like no other.
She understands what?
It didn't work. She knew what the detective was trying to do, and gave her nothing.
Because as a woman who has lived with the daily stress most women go thru, we CAN understand. We DO think about it BRIEFLY, but we would NEVER act or plan it. That’s the difference. Understanding is so different than excusing… I can empathize with Jessica feeling psychotic while still condemning her for being so weak and giving into those dark and painful impulses. You can be friends with your shadow without giving in and a lot of these murderers aren’t friends with their shadows. Their darkness takes over because they never give that shadow time to breathe, and then that becomes them… scary to think we’re all capable of this but most of us let it out in small ways so we would never let this become us. I think that’s why most of us like to see them as “evil” when the reality is we are all capable.
RIP those poor poor babies Lacey, Phillip and Christopher. Hope Jessica gets the death penalty and stops wasting our taxes.
@@maybelikealittlebitthat's crazy. Not once have I ever even thought about that in my whole life. I have 6 children. I know stress. That has never crossed my mind
True but we have all broken the commandments and wen we all stand before god to be judged all sin will look the same to him that's why he says we must repent
She is so friggin ANNOYING to listen to, those cops have nerves of steel.
Agreed, that fried, weepy voice is so fake and irritating to listen to. People don't talk like that for any other reason than to make it sound like they are remorseful, even little kids do that.
I'm always astounding at how the killer self- harm's to deflect blame but never enough to kill themselves. The nonchalant manner in the way she spoke to the detective was chilling!
She was likely medicated. She was certainly in a mental health crisis.
Not defending her. Her actions are abhorrent. But armchair detective work is rarely useful.
Absolutely chilling
Because it "hurts" meanwhile they just moidured their entire family in a grueling and painful way.
The Dr. prolly gave her adavan or anxiety meds. I thought it was strange she baby talked about the murder ( I don't know) but talked normal when talking about everything else. Super weird!
Ikr. They obviously know how to kill, but just can't seem to get it right when it comes to themselves. Smh
We should really bring back "cruel and unusual punishments" for people like this.
I can say it. Spite, her motive was pure petty spite. That letter basically outlines it. And in classic abuser fashion, she blames the murder of her family on Chris for wanting to separate. The classic "you drove me to this, so it's your fault" defense.
Exactly. She annihilated her own kids just to teach him a lesson. They weren't her whole world, they were nothing to her.
Exactly. When the narrator stated we may never know the motive I was like yes we do. That letter was it, reason is all there. Spite and revenge to the men for leaving her. Folks with BPD are afraid of abandonment and will lash out in violence such as suicide or murder at times.
@@loisannlovelace8988 Yeah it's very odd that the narrator says "we may never know" why Jessica did this immediately after they… clearly explain why she did this. It's typical of "family annihilators"-- their spiteful desire to inflict emotional pain outweighs their/desire to protect their children. Their children become a proxy tool with which to inflict that pain on their partner
@@gorelash9056 They were pieces of a game only she was playing and when she was still losing the "game" with those "pieces" she decided to get rid of them since they were no longer of use to her.
100%
This is heart-shattering. These children have the most beautiful smiles and everyone said they were the sweetest. They didn’t deserve this.
No one ever deserves to die at the hands OF their MAMA
Woke up late today thinking of my young boy and saw this. I can’t comprehend this , that any parent would do something so heinous, so vile & so the opposite of any mother’s duty & role.
@@cindytartt4048 she put her feelings over her children.
No child deserves it!
I would die for my children. I will never understand what drives people to this evil. Never.
Yes I’ll state the obvious that what she did was horrendous. However, him saying that he won’t baby sit her kids and he’ll keep his child shows his character quite a bit. You all are a family yet keeping the children is “baby sitting” and you’ll separate your child from the other two. Idk, when ppl speak that way is very telling.
However is just a but in fancy clothing- they were in the middle of splitting, he works all day every day and she wants him to hand her money _AND_ watch all the kids (2 of which aren’t his) so she can go party it up? You have no idea the petty crap she said before he said that, either.
What you and some like you seem to be overlooking is, you are taking her at her word, despite the fact that she just flat out slaughtered her entire brood, but somehow the _LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!_ defense comes tumbling out of your head so easily?
I have 4 children, and stayed home with them until the youngest went to school. I occasionally went to a movie or shopping, but I was too exhausted to go ‘out’ and my husband was the father of _ALL OF MY CHILDREN_ and would gladly watch the kids while I did what I needed to, but I rarely asked because I was happy being home with my family. It might surprise you but, I never once ever contemplated doing something so completely unimaginable and could never do so in order to get one over on my husband.
She had a perfectly fine baby daddy for the other two, but shocker, he was a complete PoS and wasn’t even keeping up on child support. So Christopher goes to work all day every day to support his family, when she said she wanted to be a trad wife, he caved, and supported children that weren’t even his because she’s such a poor judge of character, and just expected him to do it all because reasons? GMAFB.
They weren’t even married and he tried to do right but she was just a miserable, conniving, scheming dumpster fire of a human.
Only took his bio kid outside to
@@lisalarsen2384I got that too. The blame undoubtedly lies on her shoulders but in the letter she said, "the thing's you said when you went for the jugular never leave me". Which obviously means that he has said some pretty disgusting thing's. He say's he, "fell in love" with lacey when she was two but wouldn't watch her for a bit and didn't bother to try to rescue them. And she also stated that he hated Lacey. I'm not sure why people can't agree that she is to blame for the horrible things she did but that he also played a roll, especially when he can so clearly sit there and say, without a doubt, that she was mentally disturbed. Also, the fact that when she called and said she killed the kid's, he said, yeah right and hung up. If you knew she was not right, why wouldn't you believe her?
@@lisalarsen2384he was trying to leave her. Why should he take care of those kids?
@@WillhideOnIce because kids are innocent ? Haha
She's such a liar. She knows exactly what she did and remembers everything. Also, the fact she told her mother she understands how parents can kill their kids is the biggest warning sign. No way should she have been alone with those children.
A coworker once told me out of nowhere that he could understand how men could kill their ex-wives. I gave him such a wide berth after that. He was fired for unrelated reasons a few weeks later and I don't know what happened with him.
I honestly believe she’s dissociated the actual killing part because it’s incredibly emotional, especially if she has BPD.
I have BPD and dissociate on a daily basis. A lot of times I will remember in detail what happens leading up to a extremely emotional moment but the actual moment itself is wiped.
BPD comes with extreme emotions and is very different from ASPD where you lack empathy. Killing your kids is highly emotional for someone with BPD, whether she did it out of anger, sadness, jealously etc.
I even dissociate away happy moments. Everytime I experience an emotion too much it shuts off. It sucks. But like I said, I can remember everything up to it.
What doesn’t make sense is the fact that she claims to not recall writing a letter which was way ahead of the actual killings, but then she remembers things between the letter and killings.
If she were dissociating the entire time she would not remember any of it, but she does, which makes me believe she remembered the letter and knew she was going to do it, but her brain blocked out the graphic parts. Idk if that makes any sense 😅
Yep. Saying you can’t remember means you don’t have to speak aloud what you did and face judgement
The system is built and designed to make sure the kids stay with the women. Whether they are crazy or not. Doesn't matter. If you have male genitalia then you are up the creek when it comes to your kids if you ever want to separate. Unless you can prove 100% without a doubt in multiple ways that she is unfit. It takes a lot for a man to win the children unfortunately. I have known crackheads that don't work that get to keep the kids over the working father who is drug-free. That is the system that is America right now
I have no sympathy for this woman she's disgusting and knows exactly what she did your so right on it
I feel sorry for all the police and medical staff having to deal with this.
They'll never forget.
Not to mention the father to kids
All always have mandatory mental follow-up, but trauma often prevents many from returning to work for a long time or stay in the field. It happened to my EMT friend. He survived two tours as a military medic aboad, but it was a gruesome incident with children 'harmed' that broke him. He went back, but two others never did.
I know me too. They should never have to witness any such.
@@victrola2007😢dang that’s messed up.
My sister is a cop and is pursuing forensics. Last January, there was a hunting accident that resulted in a 6 year old boy being fatally shot in a deer stand. She had to climb up there and bring him down. That has stuck with her. The things they encounter are incredibly taxing emotionally.
I can't even imagine the horror and fear and confusion those poor babies felt when their own mother was doing this to them. The one person they loved and trusted, who was supposed to keep them safe. And the desperation the father must had felt when he found them and tried to save the baby. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
They were helpless but they Harley could not "trust" this borderline lunatic because she had never been trustworthy! Children are not idiots and have a better instinct than adults!
@@dianabehr3169They're not idiots, but even abused kids somehow still love their parents.
@@dianabehr3169 You can't use being borderline as an insult against her when she wasn't even diagnosed with it. BPD doesn't make you kill people. This woman had many serious issues and knew exactly what she was doing too. She wanted her boyfriend to suffer. This was truly malicious towards Christopher.
Chris Watts as a mother is what this is reminding me, or thinking about.
@alph, I wrote something similar that what you did.
It is such a slap in the face to tell a good mother and wife, that being a stay at home mom is not a job, because if it’s done right, you will working all day just like anyone at a job.
Very well said
I don't care
100% I don't think I could ever trade places with my wife, Most days I feel its probably more demanding than a 9 to 5 job...
@@jodycarlosborrageiro9588 thank you for being an empathetic husband!
I'm sorry, are you classifying her as a "good mother"? What you need to keep in mind is that she's a liar and that her lies are self-serving. She says he told her she was worthless every day but she also said that he told her he loved her every day and that she was his entire world. So that doesn't really align, does it? Why? Because she's a liar. I have Borderline Personality Disorder so I understand it. She perceives even the most minor comment as severe criticism and a fundamental rejection of her. He might come home and simply observe that the dishes haven't been done. But what she hears is "You're a fat, lazy, worthless, good-for-nothing slob and I should leave you". Everything is criticism to her. Everything is a threat that she's going to be abandoned. This is how it works. For me, I would perceive signs of pending abandonment, which may or may not have actually been reality, and the way I would deal with it would be to pre-emptively abandon them. They can't abandon me if I abandon them first, right? Not exactly healthy behaviour. But certainly healthier than what she chose. She feared being abandoned so she pre-emptively abandoned her boyfriend by slaughtering her children. And as an added bonus she got to destroy the lives of the two men who decided that they couldn't be in a relationship with a living nightmare anymore. That's exactly what happened here. It had nothing to do with post-pardon depression. It had everything to do with her being a damaged, abysmal failure of a human being who had no level of self-awareness. Speaking of self-awareness, the fact that your takeaway from this situation is that women aren't appreciated enough is extremely concerning. She slaughtered her three children and you seem to be making excuses for her. But we do live in a society that makes endless excuses for women's bad behaviour and never holds them to the same standards as men. Grow up. Is looking after three kids a fulltime job? Yes. Is it often under-appreciated? Yes. But that's not the takeaway from this situation. The three dead children killed by their selfish mother are the takeaway from this situation.
When they’re talking about her daughter and she says “that’s not why I did it” I think she slipped up right there. She claims that she has no idea why she did it yet she’s sure that that wasn’t the reason. If you truly didn’t know why you did something you wouldn’t be able to rule anything out. I think she screwed up when she said that. It tells me that she knows exactly why she did it.
Definitely, the detective should've straight away asked "why did you do it then?" Not "why do you THINK you did it"
Very smart observation.
Yeah I noticed that too, she knew exactly why
That’s not why I did it, but I don't know why I did it.
I caught that too about the daughter.
This woman is a malignant narcissist. It is all about her. Her letter is all about her feeling sorry for herself. She never loved those kids. She only loved herself. She killed them just to hurt her ex-husband and current boyfriend. She is just a monster, no excuses.
Exactly! I have witnessed the entire charade that she is putting on many times while working with female offenders. They never accept full responsibility. They always try to push some off on someone else, usually a man. And they tend to get away with doing it.
this remind me of that father kilked his 3 sons infront of his wife to punish her.. these people are just evil
@@jakemenard2593 Because society at large continues to treat and coddle women as if they're children. Nothing is ever their fault, everything they do had to have been provoked, they're always the true victim in a situation, etc etc. The result of a no accountability/responsibility culture.
Do you suppose Chris would agree with you? He said she was a superb mother, and that that was the reason he stayed with her. I tend to avoid the "it was all a lie" narrative when we're talking about a period of time spanning almost a decade.
probably better her genetics don't recirculate into the general population
She wrote that letter so calmly and with such clear hand writing.
@@mayc8674💯🎯
The older kid’s bio dad FAILED to protect his children. He knew she had mental illness. He knew she had a history of delusional thoughts. Yet, he didn’t go to court and fight for his kids. He bears some responsibility.
The courts favor the mother even the most garbage mothers
Don’t fall
Tell me you've never been a man fighting in the child court system before for your children without telling me😂😂
He should have still "tried" to get custody @MegaKing10001
I can't imagine the sheer horror of seeing someone that's supposed to protect you, hurting you in such a way and you're helpless. God rest their souls
HE IS AS GUILTY. HE DIDN'T GIVE A 💩. HE TRIED CPR ON " his kid" . That tells me enough. FU** THIS 💩 STAIN !
Yeah that would be a discomfort unfathomable 😢😢
Don't blame those deaths the mother did on those men. It was gonna happen obviously one way or another. It's not always the men's fault
@ImaRandomFemalelook I get it you want everything to be men's fault even in this case where the women has been an actual demon all her life. It's crazy to say these men could have did something other than leave. Try taking a mom to court see how that works out with the judge. Especially with no evidence
@@Kevlar_Nutzliterally nobody said anything like that.
One thing the boyfriend said irritated me. He texted her saying did u expect me to babysit your kids. They're living together and were in a committed relationship with a new baby together. Yet he still said " babysit ur kids"!
That shocked me as well... like no responsibility from his side at all. Sad.
That is a very telling statement. Sad...
They were in the middle of a fight as well as breaking up, what do you expect? What about their father? What about she's the one with 3 kids so yea if she wants to go out she needs to make sure she finds a babysitter...
He seems like a real creep as well
@@vlcralleyyepp
She literally told two people her thoughts, and they didn't think to do anything about it to protect the kids.... crazy
That was my thought. She's ultimately responsible, but both her ex-husband and boyfriend failed her and the children.
And they are 'their" kidd
I'm so confused. Why did she do this exactly?
What could they have done about it exactly?
@@neilsun2521umm got her psychiatric help. Put her on a three day hold at a facility to be evaluated. They could have stepped up and taken custody, emergency custody. They could have reported her words and behaviors. So much they could have done!
To the whole WEU network and team, keep up the great work on these! You just gained a new follower for life! 😤👐
What an evil, manipulative and vindictive b*tch. That letter at the end says it all. She did it to punish him (even though I suspect she had had fantasies of killing those kids for years) and to make him feel guilty for not wanting to be with her. Just heinous! And all that acting to try and blame it on a mental illness was just her way of pretending to be the victim and “insane” so that she could get away with it. That letter gave all the proof of premeditation and there is NO WAY she didn’t remember what she did. She was proud enough of it to send a damn picture! Pure EVIL!!!
Her voice is so fake and annoying …
If you looked intto Postpartum depression. You would realize she killed them because of it. 6 months after birth is still plenty of time to have it. Learn facts before you make assumptions. You sound more heinous then she does with your judgement without knowledge
@@giraffe_113EVEN if she DID have PPD, SHE KNEW she was having those thoughts! She killed the damn dog! Don't give me that sh!t! That's a damn excuse! She's an evil person & the fact that you actually are defending her makes me sus of you..
@@giraffe_113reallly? You must be fuckd up to think a comment is more heinous than killing 3kids,Get Help!
@@giraffe_113 I stand by what I said. It was vengeance and this woman showed no genuine remorse at all. She wouldn’t even admit what she did even when the cop suggested it would save them. This woman is trash.
I think what a lot of people are missing is the fact that there was premeditation involved. it doesn’t matter if she wasn’t in her “right mind”, she straight up wrote a letter saying what she was going to do. not to mention that just because someone is suffering with a mental illness, doesn’t mean their actions are okay, they too should take responsibility. And on top of that, if we take away the tone policing, she only cries when she notices someone watching, she has no clear signs of empathy whatsoever or remorse, not verbally or through body language. she legitimately doesn’t care, she explicitly states she knew why she did it and back tracks when coming to remembering? it doesn’t add up at all. she is just really good at manipulating people.
She definitely planned this whole thing! Just a damn shame.
mental illness is an explanation, not an excuse!
My opinion is she did this out of spite. She was mad, jealous. Still no excuse. She should be hung up.
Correct thank you!
Yeah she definitely planned it. Deserves to rot in jail or a mental institution
I've got BPD. It's heartbreaking every time I hear it being blamed for a crime. I feel like a monster when I hear it. Living life with this hell of a mental illness is bad enough. Those of us who have it and are actually going to therapy and doing what we can to manage it, I know you're here and I know you're reading this. I hope it strikes you less than it strikes me.
I have bipolar and I completely understand where you're coming from and what you're saying ❤
I wouldn’t say it’s ever “blamed” for the actions of a criminal, but it does provide insight into the persons mental state & can be a contributing factor to a crime when not properly treated. It’s rarely ever solely because of the mental illness that someone commits a crime of *this* level. There’s almost always extenuating circumstances and a lack of accountability by the individual and their own mental state. “Your mental illness is not your fault, but it is your responsibility.”
I give you credit for being responsible…I hope this means you will adopt or use someone else’s eggs to have kids because it’s genetic😢
Her having BPD will never be an excuse. I have BPD and the thought of ever doing this to my kids absolutely horrifies me. I am actually in tears after hearing what she did. I hate how BPD has such a bad reputation. Having BPD doesn’t make you a murderer.
Omg😢
Your BPD and hers are not the same, and you can never compare your illness to another person's unless you share the same body and same life. I'm not excusing her behavior, but saying "I have x and they have x and I don't act like them, therefore x was not a factor" is an absolutely ridiculous thing to assert.
I completely agree with your viewpoint. It is unfair to generalize an entire group based on the actions of one person. It is valid to assert that having BPD doesn't make someone a murderer, just as being diabetic doesn't make someone prone to violence. Mental health conditions should not be stigmatized or used to justify harmful actions. Additionally, it is important to note that the individual responsible for the tragedy may have exhibited psychopathic or antisocial traits alongside their BPD, further highlighting the complexity of mental health.
Well unfortunately 74 percent of people with BPD commit acts of violence, usually towards family members. So you might not like that stereotype, but it exists for a reason. Meet my mom, who delighted in torturing me as a child. Also, it isn't just violence, there's mental and emotional abuse that family members of BPD have to deal with. I'm glad you don't physically hurt your children, but that doesn't discount the reality of what's happening with the general population of people with BPD.
@@moonchild457Stop comparing yourself with anyone else. Stop shaming people that you don't even know and you have never walked in their shoes. I have BPD and bipolar. I have severe mental illness and without my meds I am a complete wreck, suicidal, unstable and I had violent thoughts towards one of my children. Yes I was severely abused as a child and by my husband.... So if you are stable and healthy, then thank God, others of us aren't...just keep quiet, or better yet, pray and do something positive to help those who are in need.
Her condescending attitude talking to the detective is so disgusting. And her switching between not remembering, crying, and than catching an attitude depending on the questions shows she is definitely in control and thinks she can manipulate people to go along with her. Truly despicable human
"he cheated on me, I'm going to destroy his world" is what it boils down to.
At least 50% of all the EWU stories involve (directly or not) cheating.
That being said, it might just be a statistical coincidence. It just so happen that 50% of couple have at least 1 cheating on the other and 100% of murders involve human beings... Therefore, 50% of all murder stories have a cheater... Who knows.
Edit, I just Googled it, it's between 30 and 60% of marriages with at least 1 affair... depressing...
If she does have BPD then those switches are not controlled. Her feelings would change moment to moment based on the topic/question. Not manipulation, but definitely an unhealthy human being who should not have had care of kids.
She sounds so damn whiny too. She’s trying to victimize herself as a way to avoid punishment and feed her ego
It does not surprise me that she doesn’t have any friends.
@@thelourensfamily8048”if”
This is beyond evil and sickening. Those poor babies didn't deserve this. This gut wrenching case made me weep. There is absolutely no excuse for this and I believe she should get the death penalty.
I absolutely 10000 percent agree. They shouldn’t have let her off even for a deal. She should have been executed regardless. And if there was a way to execute her 3 more times…. Including an execution for the dog… I’d be in full support of it
Anyone who hurts kids should get the death penalty. Especially her and the dad from Ohio and the 19yo who suffocated her newborn
@@maryjane4432why "especially" those people? Simply because those were the ones you knew details about and that made _YOU_ feel bad?? There are plenty of other murderers who have committed crimes just as if not more heinous them those you named and said that they "especially" needed to receive the death penalty.
No she will get worse in prison I promise you
@@PrimateProductionsthey will all get theirs in prison
If I was paying child support to an ex and she was a drug user I'd be in court immediately to gain full custody.
Yeah he didn't really seem distraught or suprised. Very strange
Ask me how I know you've never dealt with the family court system 😂
Obviously you don’t understand how the court system works, it can take years to go through family court and the system is broken
@tracyshaffer4510 oh I am aware. The problem is men can be lazy and apathetic regarding this, complicating the issue
Absolutely. Too many dead-beat dads
As someone who has Borderline Personality Disorder I can completely feel all of those extreme feelings she had about being loved and denied. BUT not once in my mind did I ever think about murder to make a point. If anything ( and possibly triggering ) I'd often resort to self harm than anything. I've been sober from ✂️ for over 8 years now, so recovery is possible.
I'm glad you stopped, you're important in this world!! Much love from another cutter ❤❤
I can relate very well. My arms are covered in scars because it was the only answer at the time. Now, people look at my arms and instantly judge me. I get your pain. I still feel pain, but the self-harm has stopped. I hope you're doing well now 🙏🇨🇦
This guys diagnoses are always so suspect. 90% of the time he says they have antisocial personality disorder. Like that's not a catch-all my man.
@@phillipprice43that’s probably why people say you should take everything on the internet with a grain of salt
I thought there's no cure for BPD but it can go into remission? Is that a same thing? My sister is diagnosed with it and I think it's in remission...
She was totally normal when talking to her mom prior. She remembers exactly what she meant when talking to her mom about women who kill their kids. And she conveniently stops the interview when asked how she understands those women. She killed her kids over a man. She wanted to punish him and she wanted attention, which is why she called to tell him what she did.
It's obvious she is faking being distraught. You can hear the difference between her and her mom. Her mother is clearly trying her best to keep it together, while Jessica is trying to SOUND like she's emotional.
Just like Diane Downs & Susan Smith.😡🤬
Everything you say is right, but she was also very sick, physically and mentally, and overwhelmed. She admits what she did. I think she was sick. Her relationship was toxic and toxic relationships fuel mental health. She needed intervention sadly that didn't happen.
@@shevonnenorman8428oh BS… she is straight up evil and now trying to save her worthless a$$
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I might buy that this was some kind of psychotic break that she couldn't remember IF her boyfriend wasn't in the middle of trying to break up with her. Considering the first thing she did was call the boyfriend and send pics of the crime scene, I'm much more inclined to believe she was trying to hurt him.. I'll go ahead and say it Jessica, considering you think no one else will, you're a bad mother.
Edit: I just heard what she said about her ex husband and how he should feel guilty for not seeing the kids. I was originally wondering why she would kill the other 2 children if she was trying to hurt the boyfriend, but obviously she was trying to hurt BOTH men. She knew exactly what she was doing and is an absolute monster.
Right?! 😭
The worst monster there is.
Just another modern day man hater. Typical 21st century woman.
@NeverDoneHomestead Yea it's pretty unimaginable to think a mother could do this just to get back at a couple men, but sadly, the killing of people's own children has become more and more common. It's horrifying
You are 100% correct. She's a narcissist. She may have BPD. But the post-partum diagnoses which weren't diagnosed by a mental health professional that purely conjecture on the part of the narrator.
It sounds like she doesn't have any diagnoses when it comes to her mental health. I'll give her one: F**king B***H! I don't think that's in the DSMV though it should be along with AH and SOB.
As someone who works clerical in the medical field, I cannot imagine someone's c-section wound opening up and the hospital just being like "Your doctor is not here. There's nothing we can do."
Even if her doctor was gone and every other doctor in the hospital or clinic suddenly dropped dead, the staff would have insured that she got treatment even if it meant calling an ambulance to take her to another hospital.
I know right?! I was so taken back by that statement like I wonder if mom was actually there or if that’s what Jessica told her happened. The hospital can be held liable for that so it’s bizarre if it really happened 😖
EXACTLY. I wouldn't imagine a hospital EVER letting someone go like that because of how MASSIVE the lawsuit would be. I'm sure there's exaggeration on how "open" the scar was or something else. People with BPD are known for being liars, so I wouldn't be surprised if the truth was stretched or just not the truth at all
welcome to america
Honestly after watching this whole episode I wouldn't be so surprised if she deliberately caused the infection and ripped the stiches to get Christophers attention
I’m a nurse . I can imagine it. No one cares anymore, esp not the medical/ nursing profession
If you want a one-sentence response from her to tell you exactly what kind of woman she is it's this:
Her response to the detectives asking if the two children were alive after she put them in their room..
" well obviously they were if the baby still has a pulse"
The vitriol in her voice knowing that even one of the children might end up surviving her selfish awful attack is just so mind-blowing. Any normal human being claiming that they still love their children after they attacked them this way is beyond comprehension. She even sounds frustrated that the baby survived. What a Fμ€K¡NG monster
Timestamp is @19:07 Seconds
Yeah I picked up on that too. Disgusting
she remembers everything including the knife but then she forgets, and also its so fucking annoying when people do shit like this and then they say “i could never imagine doing that” ?!?!? like not only did your crazy ass imagine it YOU DID IT
you can hear how she shifts between 'grief' and then total disregard for the children. Just...disgusting.
Her goal was to hurt the fathers.
"To this day, they still do not know why she did it." Apparently, what all those doctors really need is a license in COMMON SENSE! She said why in her journal. Her ex-husband didn't spend enough time with his children, her boyfriend cared more about his child, the baby boy. She felt like everybody could come and go and do whatever they wanted while she was the one who did 90% of the responsibility. It was the ultimate act of revenge. Women in prison serving time, for whatever their crime, say the hardest part is missing their children. They don't take kindly to baby killers. They will not only make her life a living hell, but make her wish she should have taken the death penalty.
Same in male prison. Children are missed sorely and people that are child killers aren't looked at favorably at all. Hopefully they make her stay in prison a long and hellish one.
Good.
The b basically had a privilege life they always do and killed her kids. Grow up and she did have help, her mother helped her with the kids.
I love how other inmates, possibly killers too, pretend to have any morals and getting angry about others killing children lol
@this-is-bioman morality is subjective. Sometimes, thieves have more honor than people like you.
The "fathers" don't even seem distraught. Poor kids😢
I was raised by a borderline woman who also needed help. Nothing about this case surprises me, after what I survived. She even killed our dog. I’m only terribly sad for the kids, who could’ve been my siblings.
EDIT: I can tell you exactly why she did this. She wanted to hurt Chris and Phillip-the men who “abandoned” her-in the worst possible way. She laid the entire crime at Chris’ feet *in writing*. My mom used us to hurt our dad all the time. We were just lucky enough to make it out alive.
Borderline, knew it
I’m so sorry for the pain you must have endured
Borderlines and functioning society honestly don't seem to mix (and saying this would send them into one of their episodes 🙄).
Wasn't that woman who killed the father of her child and then jumped off a cliff with their baby in her arms a borderline? They're just too messed up in the head.
@@adolfussmith1012Woah, there's a lot of people who are borderline who don't do anything even close to this. Wth is this comment
@@adolfussmith1012 So um… I'm diagnosed borderline and could never bring myself to harm another unless they've harmed someone I love or to protect someone who needs it. I am borderline due to past severe trauma and coped with drug use and blocking it out all together. Does this make me “just too messed up in the head.”? I'm sorry to see you believe this to be true. Take care.
Parents committing revenge killings on their children to get back at their spouses are some of the worst people in the world. I hope she gets what's coming to her in prison, because if it gets out about what she did, then I doubt she will be there for long.
well when her happiness is the be all and all this is what you get.
Right if she wanted to "punish" the dads and didn't obviously care that much for the kids, why not just send them back to their dads for full custody? Sign away your rights and leave if you really hate them all and don't want the responsibility. You don't have to be violent or kill anyone, holy hell 👀
@@jhoughjr1
I found out recently the phrase is "be all, end all" or "end all, be all".
Just thought you might wanna know! 😊
And another I learned is, "for all intents and purposes"...
(I had thought it was "for all intensive purposes". Lol😂)
I hope she’ll be there long, getting beat up often. She’ll live the way she ended those poor kids lives. That to me, is justice.
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 linguistics is descriptive not prescriptive and words are weird. You take too much for granite.
She remembers everything. Conniving on a different level.
cokniving
She’s cold hearted for sure.
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Not only did she remember it, it was premeditated. She did it to hurt/punish the fathers. The letter tells you everything you need to know. Not to mention her jealousy for the other woman.
He is gross for texting a woman with romantic intent with his wife at home with a newborn baby.
Omg!!! That beautiful little girl constantly telling her, " i love you mommy" . The fear and confusion that little girl must of gone through.. just broke me
She can recall every detail including texting a bloody pic and calling her boyfriend to tell him the kids were dead, but can’t remember her other actions. Mmmmm???? My heart goes out for those babies who had there whole lives ahead of them…may they RIP!💔 Thanks for sharing this EWU!
The bathub killing and the broken shower door frame was proof that there was a struggle. Also that poor baby clawing her own neck trying to free herself from choking..... insaneee
What she did was completely wrong, but I understand her feelings. This man gave up on his commitment to her and the kids and knew he could easily just walk away. What men fail to realize is women also want to just walk away. We as women also feel caged and don’t want to live in the life we have, but we continue to try our best for our kids and wish our significant others would take notice of this. We can’t easily just walk away like men can because men see it as our kids and only our responsibility. You can see this in Christopher’s text at 16:52 when he texts her “did you really expect me to hand you $60 and babysit your kids”. It’s his money and her kids. And people will say oh he meant her two older kids. No sir, he committed to having a child with her and those kids are an extension of her and you chose one you chose all. So they are his kids now too.
A bit controversial but women, mothers are capable of being evil, it's not always depression and Post Partum Psychosis.
Not controversial at all. Just true
“Your misogyny is showing 😤🫵🏽”
No shit. How's that controversial lmao we're all human.
People just don't expect women to be violent I think that's the thing. Everyone's capable of murder
@@ACVRG1😂😂😂
The audacity of this woman to say "I dont think you could find one person in this world who could say im a bad mom". I couldnt find one to say the contrary
Let me be the first…. "You are a horrible mom". Selfish to say the least.
Well, I mean, her husband said she was an “unbelievably good mom. In the top three.”
Even if parents are wonderful up until the point that they murder or think of murdering their children, that thought or act negates every other good thing. Good parents don't murder or even think of murdering their children. Period.
@@machinegunkellykapoorCouldn't have said it better.
@@Yes_Anastasia let's ask him now
I can say with a fair certainty that Jessica purposefully murdered those kids and intended to end her life and make Christopher pay and feel remorse by witnessing her dying, or at least attempting to die while he was there. She wanted to hurt him completely and even told him he destroyed their family. The letter tells it all and doesn't indicate that she had an "episode.' She knew what she was doing and it was completely premeditated. Granted, she may have had Borderline Personality Disorder, but the decision to kill her kids was something I guarantee she remembers, no matter how much she wants to fool everyone into thinking she's blocking it out. Her letter is snarky by saying "I hope you'll be happy in your new relationship with Brandy' and wanted to make sure he knew it was his relationship with Brandy that sealed their coffins. There's no doubt in my mind she wanted Chris to pay. The only thing that backfired for her was that she was hoping she'd have the courage to take her own life as well, but ultimately, she failed. The police used nonlethal weaponry to subdue her. She only cut herself just enough to drip blood all over the house and to elicit some sort of horror from Chris when he saw it was all over the floor (most likely her own blood judging by the traveling drips) Lacey had no stab wounds, and the means of killing the kids was primarily ligature and strangulation. Jessica probably walked all over the house deliberately dripping everywhere just to make the house look horrifying. Her mother had already offered to take the kids for the night, so she can't even use the excuse that the kids would still be alive if he'd wanted to watch all 3. At that point, she already had it in her head that she was going to kill her kids and take them with her, then end her own life, but not before her husband came home, looked her in the eyes and realized he actually had destroyed the entire family (as she described in her letter). This was a murder suicide gone wrong. But since she wasn't able to kill herself, she realized she was now stuck with the prospect of having to live without her kids anyway, and she was STILL going to lose Chris. At that point, she just melted into a pity party of denial and decided she'd play the "I can't remember any of it' card.
At some point she made a decision that if she didn't get to keep the hubby she loved. He couldn't have the kids he adored
Wow, this was amazingly said!
I agree with this.
Though of course we'll never really know.
Post partum psychosis does happen but from what I recall from other 'stories', it doesn't tend to look like this. She seems too lucid. IMO! xD
I have borderline personality disorder... and 100% functional as well as a pleasure to be around. Self control is lost usually with drugs and meds about 99% of the time. They merely just hold a persona that they think everyones wants to see but the control over their life was lost long ago. Acting for so long makes these psychos snap. They just get tired of it cuz its like a jail they know they keep themselves in but dont know how to get out and when they do break out it looks like this. Not usually this bad but thats what's sad, it's a another bad example of what this world is full of. Troubled people on weird ass drugs and alcohol.. Smoke some organic weed and go to bed already people....
@@donnawilliamson6842 *husband
Honestly, Chris sounds terrible as well. Not wanting to watch your step kids and getting mad the mother of your child needed a break?
The fact that Lacey repeatedly told her evil witch of a mother that she loved her in terror before she was murdered…my heart. How can such monsters live among us? 💔
Human potential for great and unspeakable things is sadly quite unlimited. Like if there's a story like this and one would think, surely there can't be anyone worse than this, someone will step up to the challenge, or has already and we don't know it yet.
Was that in the video?? I don't remember hearing that that is devastating
@@PeacheIIe yes it was in the first half I believe
Lol among us
I wish I could punch and beat the shit out of this monster… to do this to these babies… it’s so gut wrenching
Phillip, "I have a new baby" - Cannot make his child support payments to his current two kids, yet has the wisdom to father another child. I know this is not the focal point of the video, but as an aside, it baffles and saddens me how these kinds of people impulsively jump into relationships and create fractured families that experience more pain than joy in life just by being completely irresponsible. And this mentality is spreading like a virus.
When he was paying it was like 100-200 a week apparently, I feel like that is so little. Also Jessica having a new baby with all this postpartum issues and low income, yeah it is very sad how impulsive they act with such an important decision
Yeah not gonna lie, I feel bad for the kids bc it seems like all the parents were shitty overall but mom obviously was the worst. Mom being the worst doesn’t negate the shitty behavior of the exhusband and boyfriend; it just means they all suck and some just suck more.
@@beautyengineer2198 i think she also might have actually been bipolar, her mom mentioned it but she didnt know if it was actually diagnosed and Jessica said she was, even doe again its not clear if jessica is saying that she was diagnosed with it or not. EWU made it confusing by inserting his belief that it was actually borderline personality disorder even doe nothing for the actual investigation showed by him mentioned that. Like i dont mind presenting that bit with the similarities as a additional information but his commentary after focused on it being actually being BPD.
@@TheNovgorodian Well not being diagnosed by it doesn't necessary mean she doesn't have it... If you don't see a doctor nobody can diagnose it. As she said she also doesxn't use any medication, it's pretty likely she never went to a doctor. Which is pretty common I'd say. Most don't want to believe they are mentally ill cause it is still not socially accepted or even believed in.
@@Hodiefarlp her mom mention she did go to a doctor, she just didnt know if it was diagnosed or tested for it
Yoooooo how is she blaming him for destroying the family when she is a literal family annihilator
she is a narcisstic psychopath. she also complains, she doesnt have any friends, and the kids were her only friends. you see, that's why its bad they are gone to her. Thats that first reason she offers after butcherin them. she only processes the entire situation for herself, not for them. She says she cant believe she killed ALL the kids. As if it would be only bad suddenly, or some increase in being problematic, that she actually killed ALL of them. thats, she says, makes it bad_ i am the person who killed all my kids. she is unable to think about standard basic moral emotions like an even semi-normal person. she is just imitating what society has taught her about that whole "the kids are MY LIFE" business. like that Chris Watts guy a bit, everyone thought he lived for his family too. He really didnt not did this lady. Maybe, she's also sick in the sense of borderline or something like that, maybe thats even quite possible, but that's not explaining all of this. She is that psychopath and narcisst. Weir so many fair responses on her seem to miss that somewhat. She still has people fooled, it seems. I guess because the deed is so disturbing and because she whimpers. But she is just evil too.
People with BPD NEVER accept responsibility unless they are trying to manipulate a situation. No one but people who have dealt with people that have BPD on a personal level will tell you the truth about BPD.
Narcissism unfortunately
This her fault but he is no angel, he’s got a 5 month old and a mentally ill wife at home and he’s flirting and being inappropriate with a coworker. Plus, way he spoke about her two children reveals a lot about him. He’s a prick.
@@Bryan-lj9jn That's not true for everyone with BPD. I have it and would never do that. Stop blaming mental illness and blame evil people instead because it creates an extremely negative stigma.
I really do think if someone has not been thru postpartum depression it’s so hard to understand. You aren’t yourself, these thoughts are vile and you feel like a monster. But acting on these thoughts I will NEVER understand, everyone can think some shitty things but going thru with them is another story.
Very well said. After my first was born I had visions of hurting her with a knife and I knew at that point I needed major help and I got it thank goodness. I can't even imagine now how I was thinking like that but ppd is a very real horrific illness.
As a new mother at 43 , I understand the stress 💯 %! But your right Intrusive thoughts are one thing acting on them is a totally different ballgame.
People always say that like postpartum depression is an excuse for anything. Gimme a break, I know men and women that have pretty much been to hell and back their whole lives that end up depressed as hell yet still manage to be some of the best people I know. Letting your mind control you like that is just pure weakness. If someone can be abused in all manners from birth until adulthood and manage to become a well intended functioning member of society, women should be able to handle some feelings after the birth of their child. You can call me insensitive if you want but I know what these people have went through and I can assure you postpartum ain’t that serious in comparison. Tired of people acting like it gives women an excuse to be insane.
She had depression, not post partum psychosis. There's a big difference.
@darthbauer5153 it's not a contest and you have no idea how the human mind works. OP even said it's not an excuse for acting on the thoughts
Hearing her say "everyone would tell you I am a great mother" made my skin crawl. A good mother would never harm their children under ANY circumstances, let alone murder them. She clearly did this to get Chris`s attention and hurt him for hurting her and wanting to leave her. Not to mention her weird feelings that her ex husband would not care because he "didnt come around". She deserves the death penalty.
I believe there is no such thing as a good mom. Every parent has good things and bad things In their personality. While this lady is absolutely crazy and most cases aren't this extreme, there are very few if any people who have not a single thing they wish their parents would change or apologize for.
@@affectingsolidMy Parents are were amazing. I had the BEST childhood. And now they are amazing grandparents to my kids and my husband has amazing parents too. I absolutely adore my in laws. So not everyone has childhood trauma 😂I mean I don't live in the US maybe there's that. 🤷♀️
@@nataliekenny7490 I'm not talking about trauma itself but you can't tell me there's not a single opinion or action or belief of your parents' that you would change if you could. Whether that be them working too much and having a demanding job or them not pursuing their own lifelong dreams. My mother was wonderful, but labeling things as with good or bad ignores that there is both in every situation and person. I'm coming at this from a philosophical perspective, but yeah being in america I have watched a lot of my friends live through childhoods that I just could not.
@@affectingsolidyes you absolutely can summarize and describe someone as good even though they may have a few less than desirable qualities. No one is ever perfect. Nothing is, really.
I cannot believe that you don't ever label someone or something as good or bad based on an overall experience. This is how the world works and describes people, places, things, and feelings.
If you can't, then maybe you need to get yourself checked out. Are you on the spectrum? Do you have depression?
@@AlwaysCheckmateNeverStalemateow maybe you need to get checked out this is extremely rude. Alot of people view others this way because humans are on instinct selfish greedy creatures so you look at them neutral. Example you are rude for no reason expect you don't agree with someone but we didn't know till now.
This is so sad and horrifying... I have gone through three live births, and had PPD all 3 times, but honestly, there is an EXTREME FEAR of having your kids taken that stops many of us from speaking up about how severe our depression and psychosis has gotten. Much sooner than give real counseling, you'll have CPS on your doorstep, which is a terrifying thing, regardless. But we also need to be able to recognize when our depression and mental illness has gotten so bad that we might NEED those interventions to help us regain reality...My third child was diagnosed with Spina Bifida at 24 weeks, and we had fetal surgery at 25 to save as much of hos lower limb function and it's the greatest achievement of my life, to lay my body down for his in that way... But it meant an 8 inch, hip to hip incision, where he was tucked back inside to continue growing as I essentially recovered from a Csection while still carrying him, and he was delivered at 37 weeks, by reopening 4 inches of that incision... I had my tubes tied on the table so I would hopefully never have to go through another csection, but the recovery from those back to back surgeries was so much harder than I expected, plus I was learning to care for a newborn with a physical disability, navigating the world of being a medical parent, with a toddler, and a school aged child in tow... When my son was 13 months old, his care team discovered he had severe anemia, which turned out after countless tests, was congenital, diamond blackfan anemia, but in the first few months after we nearly lost him (because his initial presentation of anemia was so severe, and because he still requires monthly transfusions and is facing an upcoming bone marrow transplant), I was struggling seriously with my mental health, mainly out of sheer fear, and still being on the tail end of the physical recovery from the hard pregnancy and birth... and i became abusive towards my husband, and that brought me into the eye of CPS, and honestly, rightly so... We had to rearrange our lives while we were investigated, and my MIL moved in with us. When the investigation concluded, we had monthly meetings with a social worker in our home, and that felt humiliating, but I am grateful for the reality checks that came along with the scrutiny. I'm now in anger management, and I've been able to start delegating my tasks like switching from homeschool (kindergartners in a pandemic! EEK!) to public school, and accepting the help available to me, like the anger management group, and I've connected online with countless other medical moms and moms in unique parenting situations, and it has helped me, and my family a lot.
Please don't be ashamed to admit you are depressed, and to get actual help with it. We don't need nights out drinking with friends, we need genuine support, and to see that we aren't the only ones going through hardships, and that those hardships are only temporary.
My heart breaks for everyone involved in this, even the mother, because this does not happen in an instant. That situation can happen to even the "best" of us, when we can't get the support we need, and in her case, that was probably psychotherapy and antipsychotics...
I pray that these fathers who are missing their babies have been able to recover their lives after having such a huge portion taken from them.
GET HELP IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE STRUGGLING, WELL BEFORE YOU REACH THE BREAKING POINT.
Many people in these comments lack proper respect for the mother at hand. Though she is horrible for doing this, she was in pain and lacking support from all of her loved ones. This could’ve been avoided had someone paid closer attention. My heart goes out to everyone, I hope her children are at peace.
If this were a man, suspect you'd have the nails and cross ready. Why and how is it so hard to believe evil women exist? Only men, huh?
You need to get a job. Who has time to write all that...we...don't .care .. .
Bless You Mama for all your sacrifices! Wish all the best, and as to your to youngest, had similar issues from birth and was parents were told I'd never walk. All I can tell you is, no matter how hard it is to do, DON'T MAKE THINGS TOO EASY FOR HIM. ❤️🙏💞
@lulumoon6942 thank you for your words of encouragement! As far as making things easy, the director of the sb clinic at unc where we had our surgery told me the same thing. Equal treatment and accountability to his siblings, for sure.
If your hatred for the father overrides your love of your kids you’re not insane. You know exactly what your doing.
Dark cruel wicked female. Don't have words to describe her.
Well men who wants to bring children in the world back to back knowing what it does to a woman’s body and mental health and then decides to leave instead of getting them into a treatment is part to blame.
@@CAPTINjacksparrow yes the woman murdered her children but years ago a man hurt her and he is partially responsible. REALLY!!!! SMH most ridiculous comment I have seen in awhile.
@@philster6383 you must be a man boy who doesn't take responsibility in one's actions.
@@philster6383 must not believe in abortion either.
I have serious doubts that this is postpartum psychosis, but even if it were, she's a monster through and through. She did this to get back at her boyfriend, bottom line. Andrea Yeates, who absolutely had postpartum psychosis, has been in prison for I don't know how many decades. When they wanted to release her she refused. She understands the horrific nature of what she did to her children. Her, I actually have some empathy for. This lady, "I don't know what happened to the children. I don't know if I did it." Bullshit. She planned it because her man was about to leave her.
This was definitely not ppp. Ppp killings don't happen for revenge, women who kill their kids bc of ppp generally don't realize they're doing it and it's always based on delusions. Like they believe something like their baby is actually a demon imposter and killing "it" is the only way to save their baby. They often snap out of it later, usually in a hospital bc they hurt themselves too, and start asking where their child/ren are not realizing she killed them. It's truly a horrific thing. These women genuinely love their babies and would normally never even think about hurting them and often have delusions that lead them to believe that they're actually helping their child/ren, not killing or hurting them. A revenge killing isn't done bc of delusions, unless the reason for needing revenge is a delusion itself. Ppp is too often used as an excuse where it's not actually the case.
It pisses me off how many women try to use ppp as a defense where it clearly wasn't the case, bc it makes real cases of ppp seem like any old type of murder and makes it harder for those women to fight their cases properly
@@BriEMcNyes I agree with you.
Thankfully it's not up to you to decide if someone has postpartum depression. It can strike anybody at any time for any reason.
@@HikingFeral Killing someone let alone your kids and using PP depression is an excuse plain and simple, Thousands and thousands of women make it through PP depression without killing anyone
The number of women in her age group suffering from mental disorders and relying on psychiatric medications in America is truly alarming.
This woman had violent thoughts for *years* and she wrote that letter in advance. This was premeditated, cold-blooded, and pure evil. I'd believe post-partum psychosis if her behavior suddenly changed after the baby was born, but this wasn't new. Her family just didn't believe that she'd actually do it.
Exactly
Post partum can go on for years. That said, it was certainly a mixture of BPD/malignant narcissism, possible PP and trouble in paradise.
I don’t care what “label” she’s under,she’s atrocious and evil , this is so heartbreaking & upsetting!
My mother was diagnosed manic depressive, amongst other things - I believe this is what is called bipolar these days, this was in the late80s/early90s. She was terrifying. She could go from sweet-as-pie to wanting to slit your throat because you breathed the wrong way in her presence. Sometimes it was physical, sometimes sexual, sometimes just verbal humiliation, devaluation. There was no way to calm her, you just had to try to survive until it blew over and she'd act like nothing had ever happened and why was I causing problems for everyone by bringing it up. Lots of times I think she came close to killings us both. I understand deeply the terror these kids went through and it's highly likely this was not the first time they felt endangered by her.
Edited to ad: to the people trying to re-explain my experiences or tell me I'm giving her the wrong diagnosis or tell me 'not all bipolar people," these are MY experiences and this is what my mother's DOCTORS DIAGNOSED HER with and of course 'not all bipolar people,' - I never said it was all of you, in the same way talking about one man who was abusive isn't indicative of all men.
Im sorry to hear that. But Im glad to see you are alive and well.
I’m so sorry you went through that. Not all parents deserve to have children.
I’m sorry this happened to you and your family.
Oh wow 😢 I'm so sorry 🙏🏾
So sorry you experienced that trauma as a child. Those kinds of traumatic experiences
follow us into adulthood. You are obviously a survivor! I pray you received help for any lasting effects. May you have a joyful life now…🤗& when hard times come may u have a strong support system.
I went through severe post natal depression ang getting a voice in my head telling me my baby daughter had ruined my life and to just smother her…. I remember sitting on my hands on the stairs and rocking … I didn’t do it but I live with the guilt that I even had such thoughts. I didn’t tell anyone as I was so ashamed. There were so many red flags with this lady and no one in her family or the fathers acted on anything or reported it even when she was constantly saying she wanted to kill her children ! Hormone imbalances are very real postpartum depression can be devastating as in this case 😢
Thank you for being upfront, you are not the only one. ❤
She slipped at times. First, she'd say she didn't remember (in a croaking fake cry voice). Then she'd answer a question that proved she absolutely remembered (and did so with a regular voice). Cold-blooded.
It is important to know that some people's evil deeds are NOT always driven by mental illness but by evil itself, please remember this when sentencing this woman. I suffer with Bi-polar for nearly 30 years and I would NEVER dream of doing what this evil witch has done
I’m so tired of mental health problems being the only cause for evil. Some people are just sick fucks. Many people just are not meant for the civilized world.
Everyone that has a mental illness isn’t the same just because a psychiatrist or therapist or psychologist says so and some stupid dsm standard says so
I have apparently been DX bipolar 2. Do I or ever have I felt like DTO ? No but we all are not the same I actually think she SNAPPED!
Just fyi. This event and subsequent sentencing took place years ago...
That's right i hate it when killers blame their upbringing on their deeds, i was abused as a child and i have autism too, but there's no way i'd even consider killing someone. the only 2 reasons for taking a life one would be to protect an innocent party or self defence, there is no other excuse for taking anyone's life
Both fathers speak so calmed, casual, and one even chuckled at one point. I'd be devastated.
Especially after he called 911 and was like “yep” and remained too calm after seeing photo of blood! 😮
It's a shock response
@@kimberlymartin7498 Both father's? Doubt it. They were both very called and casual, during and after. They did not act as a person in shock would. Watch all their interviews and listen to all their calls.
Well the one guy was in the military and was riding in a car trying to stay calm. That's why he said "drive normal, drive normal". He's trying not to freak out.
yup. They both come across as complete jerks. Chris absolutely was by telling her that "her" kids had to leave the house. I'm willing to bet money he said stuff like that all the time. All 3 of them are weirdos in my opinion.
Thanks!
19:11 You can tell her response upsets the detective, and I don’t blame him. Her response is like how a bratty teenager would talk to their mom. “Ooooobviously they were if the baby still had a pulse” I wanted to punch her through my screen.
I was abused, publicly humiliated, cheated on & left by my son’s dad. I never had any thought to harm my son because of the crappy situation I put myself in. I took my L & learned my lesson! Those poor children had to witness the one person in the world that they’re supposed to be able to trust harm them. 😢
U traded your L for a W! Good on ya!
Absolutely not!!!! I took my kids and RAN!!!!! Those are MY babies.
Same, no matter how awful and manipulative of a woman my daughters mother might be, hurting my daughter is unfathomable.
@@m1ssjujuI see it as God’s protection so it’s definitely a blessing in disguise.
@@carieevans3787Good job mama! Protect those babies & yourself by all means. ❤
The snarky comments about her husband not seeing his kids are downright evil. I hope she finds comfort under the prison.
Women and accountability are like oil and water
Well the husband should've cared about his kids. That is real life.
@@truthteller9071 Who says he didn't? She just murdered her kids to get back at her boyfriend and can't help but to trash her husband. The lack of perspective on her part is disgusting, and even if he was a crappy absentee father that's a far cry from the evil she committed.
@@ACVRG1 dont group the entirety of women with being unable to own up to mistakes or failure
@@ACVRG1Oh for heaven’s sake, stop with the women-hating nonsense. There are plenty of bad apples of both sexes. What about that man who killed his 3 kids not that long ago?
My cousin was an EMT years ago and quit after 5 kids were killed by their parents on different occasions. He said he couldn’t do it anymore 😢😢😢
Rest in peace, poor sweet babies. I really don’t believe she was in any kind of psychosis. She was only crying for herself after it happened and looking for sympathy. When you feel genuine shame, you don’t go fishing for people to reassure you. She’s just a monster who knew how to hide it until she couldn’t.
I agree. She's an animal.
Her letter tells the story that she wanted to punish Chris, she was angry that he was interested in Brandy and wanted him to feel that it was his fault that she “had to” murder those children, that it was him, not herself, that murdered those children. The last lines of saying that she hopes they have a happy life together is an obvious lie, she wanted Chris to be miserable. It says exactly what she intended. Evil. She fully knew what she was doing and she will live with that for the rest of her life. She had no love for those children, but she wants everyone to believe that she did. Ugh!
She's a narcissistic borderline. Like all borderlines, she has a limited ability to cope with stress. On top of that, 28:00 She doesn't know why she did it, "I love my children, I have no reason why": like many borderlines, SHE HAS A VERY POOR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY her actual feelings. She killed them bc she was angry and fed up, and was unable to cope, and was threatened with abandonment, too.
Classically, a borderline would self harm, or try to commit suicide as a way to cope with emotions. But she's not typical: she has narcissistic traits and antisocial traits too, with all those thefts, and prison time. That makes her the worst kind of borderline: the worst ones are narcissistic borderlines.
Couldn't agree more! Correlation doesn't equate to causation.
BPD is just something she had, it isn't a license to do this. This is from an evil piece of crap. BPD is not to blame, she is! Correlation doesn't equate to causation.
Her poor mom probably can’t stop thinking “why didn’t I just take the babies with me”. I can’t imagine 😢
tbe problem is that even if she did the mother would have killed some other time because it clearly was premeditated... poor kids they never stood a chance with that psycho
The thought would drive me insane 🤬 horrible and just sickening
This is no mother this is a monster. The way she was so casually speaking with the detective was chilling to listen to. My heart breaks for the poor children, may they rest in peace. 🙏
Depression, PTSD, having a painful, open wound, caring for 3 children and husband, being dependent on drug... wow. But when you have some minutes to yourself, those dark thoughts come and take your mind away. Those thoughts stay at the back of your brain, waiting for the last thing... which happened when she was told that she was not wanted, not loved anymore. She is guilty. So are everybody around her.
Damn, that father saying his didn’t want to babysit “her kids” rubbed me the wrong way. If you’re going to be in a relationship with someone who has kids then you should be prepared to treat them as your own. The lack of care for them is disgusting. Not nearly as disgusting as the mother, but still…
100%. Those kids were still biological siblings to his own child!! WTH
hey shaniqua, you do your kids, don t expect anybody to take take of them for you. These american women are crazy, like the whole world owes them something. your comment shows how some women should never be mothers.
@@yannmassard3970 I’m not American or a ‘Shaniqua’. I think you’re simply too dim witted to understand what I was saying.
Nah I would never ask another man to babysit my kids , other than their Dad. 🤷🏻♀️
That’s just weird to Me
@@rosee7256 I get that, but surely you have a friend or a brother? There has to be men you trust. I've babysat my nieces and nephews and it's great fun, the kids love it.
I could never hurt my child because of her father. Some people just shouldn’t have kids. Heartbreaking.
Bitches be trippin
Good for you my dear, : ) ... You're ALREADY a better Mom just by saying so ...
🤘😎🤘
No shit? Way to state the obvious
Unbelievable huh? How can u look at your CHILDREN and hurt them like that.... how?!?! Omfg.. tragic
Some people shouldn't even exist
Judging by the letter it seems to me that she did this to get back at Chris. And in my opinion it was pretty well premeditated. Absolutely unbelievable. Rip three little angels. Thank you EWU Crime Storytime ⭐
I don’t know about other moms but I’ve never gone around bragging about how great of a mom I am and how much I love my daughter! I regret working so hard and missing mom and daughter time but it never crossed my mind to hurt her and harm her. I’ve been a single mom for 10 years, no government help, no food stamps, no child support, I still think about those days and I say to myself HOW TF DID I MAKE IT WORK ALL BY MYSELF? 😢😢😢
She sounds like a petulant child who wasn't used to being rejected. She wanted to punish him and get back at him. So she took it out on the children because she really wanted to hurt him. She did not want to stay home and take care of the children and was very upset that her boyfriend was going out with his friends instead and leaving her alone with the kids. This was completely premeditated.and she killed them to take revenge. In her interrogation with the detective she gets defensive everytime his questioning gets too intense and hits close to home.
Her: "Let me make this clear, I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT do this to get back at him, I DID NOT"
Cop: "Okay, why did you do it?"
Her: "I don't know ..."
Laughable, really. If you listen to the purpose behind what (and how) she speaks, it's clear she did this to hurt him. And yet, she refuses to admit it, even though it doesn't matter. And the way she gets mad at people asking questions ... really reminds me of Sarah Boone; "it was NOT .. INTENTIONAL .."
It almost sounds like she did this for attention as crazy as that sounds
I got this same vibe when the detective said "he feels pretty guilty" and she responded with he should as if that was the pint of all of this was to hurt him and make him feel bad for his part
The self pity exhibited throughout this entire thing has been literally sickening. I am a total stranger looking at the pictures of these three little innocent angels and the tears are pouring down my face while the murderer played the 'I don't remember' card and tried, not very well, to take a cowardly way out with a botched suicide. I honestly couldn't give a s**t about her mental health issues. She is a monster and I truly hope she is getting the kind of treatment that child killers are afforded by fellow inmates in prison. So glad she escaped the death penalty as it would have been way too easy for her - let her suffer till her dying day for her premeditatad slaughter of these three babies who must surely be resting in peace.
I can not fathom how those children felt... How scared, how betrayed, how sad... I am literally holding back tears. It broke my heart when they said that her daughter just kept telling her how much she loved her before she killed her...
All children deserve LOVING parents, but not all parents deserve their children. Rest in peace, sweet babies. I'm so sorry.
You moved on from this family already? Your heart ok? I can only assume you’re barely alive with your heart being broken watching these videos and they’re all the same.
@@nohmers18wtf?
A woman who has severe mental issues, has been depressed for years, struggling alone to take care of 3 kids including a new born, breadwinner, driving her husband around, serving everyone no stop. An ex husband who doesn’t pay alimony properly, that after his kids are dead doesn’t drop one single tear. An actual husband who abuses her mentally, making her believe she has no worth, is cheating on her,threatening to leave her, says he doesn’t want her kids in the house… considering she suffers from boarderline that makes her completely emocional dependent, loosing sight of reality and being extremely impulsive you people are surprised this happened? She snapped. It’s called psychosis break. I honestly think the two guys had to been arrested and her gone to psychiatric treatment. This is what society does to women and mothers making them invisible and exploiting them to the limit of mental break down. Poor woman.
Finally someone noticed how full of shit were those guys. When she was in jail the kids were with grandparents. The father didn’t give a shit. What she did was fucked up beyond any recognition, but her mind must have been one black ball full of sadness and despair.
i agree
Poor woman? She killed 3 kids and a dog.
Nothing breaks my heart more than to hear stories that involve innocent children. There is no deeper sadness than this. RIP to these children, I cannot imagine the terror they went through.
She knew EXACTLY what she was doing and why. She was a horrible, selfish person who pretended to be a good mother, all the while evil lurked inside her. She lies about not remembering. She did it to get back at the husband.
Rest in peace beautiful innocent babies. 🙏
Exactly.Not the first time I still remember the woman who drowned her two kids because she thought her boyfriend will leave her.Of course there were many similar cases between then and now but that one sticks because it was before the net.
The men did this to her and she couldn't escape...she was allso the victem.
@@Heavens-Humanaterian-Armyare you serious or being sarcastic? If you're serious, you're dead wrong. The fathers of her children didn't do anything to her - SHE did this , her and her alone
@@Heavens-Humanaterian-Army Stop excusing her. She has a brain.
i thought the same thing. shes not sorry for what she did, shes sorry she survived.
I'm a clinical psychologist and I'm impressed with the precise way you analyze the different mental disorders . Good work!
Do you agree, that nowadays everybody seems to have a disorder. Or a name for it. How is this possible? And how is it posibble that so many people get prescripted drugs for anxiety and sleeping problems etc?
Seems to me, like nobody can survive anymore, without alcohol, meds, drugs, etc, to cope with their pains...Real life.
Sad story this was. Red flags to be found. But whomever expects this? Nobody. Chris guy said multiple times to her, allegedly, that she was nothing. Brandy girl was. With discussions. How you can trash eachother, while being mad....
Also a quote: "you mean everything to me".
She 'showed' to Christopher, that he meant more to her, then her kids.
So crazy. Because you should always have your kids at number 1.
And in the story, she obviously did in the past. She was agreat mom.
How is it possible, to lose it like that? Killing your own 3 children.
Just so sad.
You're not a clinical psychologist surely ; if you were that educated you'd know its "impressed WITH" and not "impressed of"
@@dontbewoke Thanks for the comment, I corrected my mistake. English is not my native language, εντάξει τώρα;
@@escapevi Your last 2 words are Greek. I'm also not a native English speaker. Pity/too bad/shame, that you didn't react to my comment....
@@belleblaas3843 Hey! That's right, I'm Greek. I'm sorry dear, I can't see which comment you are referring to..
What she did is so so horrific and she didn't deserve to see day light again but the fact that Chris ran in and checked on the kids but he only took the baby outside to do CPR. And then the text messages to her about she had to take her kids for the night and Chris was going to stay with the baby; he wasn't going to babysit HER kids. That's insanely FKD UP!! its NEVER NEVER EVER EVER a reason to kill anyone but the BF, she could claim insanity due to the verbal and mental abuse.
I have so much respect and compassion for the First Responder's that tried so hard to save these babies. I cannot imagine the horror and images that they have to carry for the rest of their lives. That poor Daddy too...speechless, how do you ever get past this horror?! R.I.P. little angels...
I think she knew exactly what she did and also how evil it was. One sign for that is the fact that she covered all of her kids with blankets so she didn't have to look at them anymore.
Twaidled twaice, thenne shee plaied eet upp weeth hees pance, Boobled thee Frawg, eentoo hees but weeth undurware ov pickt eet ees mayking aye gewd, stronge, faurt
@@Taco_Raiderwhat language is that
Actually covering a body is a sign of remorse.
@@carrieandreasen9820normally yes but in this case no it’s so she can’t see what she did and it also proves she knew exactly what she did as if she had an episode she wouldn’t do that it wouldnt cross her mind especially after seeing what she just did it would break her she should be on the ground unable to move yet the kids are all covered
@@mack8968 idk man but that definitely isn't translated to English 😂
How is she even able to talk?? And not be a complete mess, anxiety ridden … I mean the way she talks about it and how angry she gets when talking about the BF. This is absolutely chilling. Her handwriting is pretty neatly written, too. Not shaky & in distress. It’s like she was calm about the murder. Those poor babies 😭😭😭😭
Bc she is psychotic
Psychopaths become calmer after murdering people, it's a release for them.
People with Borderline or well, just plain evil people, can be amazing at convincing themselves that they didn't do anything wrong, or rather that they are in the right of doing what they did.
Like this "mother", she wrote down how it's perfectly fine for her to leave the world but not without dragging her kids with them and it wouldn't be a big deal to the father.
So instead of doing the more decent thing and only minecrafting herself she wanted to cause maximum pain while only thinking about herself. A wicked witch indeed.
Right?!?! Ice cold. If I went into psychosis for some bizarre reason and God forbid hurt my children they better have me strapped on a bed in a padded room in a high security nuthouse because not even Jesus himself would stop me from ending myself out of absolute despair. Ugh, just thinking about it makes me queasy 🤢
That is mental illness. They disassociate.
I have an 11 month old son. I never want to imagine harm coming to any baby. It makes me think of my son.
To hear her daughter saying I love you mommy I love you broke me down to tears. The fear that went through those kid is so heartbreaking . Her jealousy and insecurities doesn't merit the right to off her kids. My heart goes out to those beautiful children. This case left me unnerved and frankly pissed. She remembers and now she'll remember every moment of it for the rest of her life in prison. She should have gotten the death penalty.
Better to live and remember every day?
@@hypsyzygy506 Indeed, and who knows maybe she can be even beneficial in one way or another by being an example of what not to do. By this I obv. not only mean to not harming (or worse) your (or someone else's) children but to instead seek out psychological help to either get fitting therapy or medication to keep those "demons" at bay and under control.
This video broke my heart
It's unbelievable. I struggle with mental issues, and unfortunately had PPD, but you have child(ren) when you are prepared to let go of your "life" for the one(s) you grow in your body. It's wild to me, because hearing your child say "I love you mama" is the 2nd best thing I've ever experienced. Hearing her cry post birth (she made it!), being placed on my chest and immediately stopped crying, me holding her tiny hands & body in my arms, and the moment she opened her eyes and looked right at me. I didn't know they opened their eyes so soon! We just started at each other, and I told her how much I will always love her. So when your baby is finally old enough to say "I love you mama", it's literally a reminder of every moment you've shared with the life you brought into this world. It's amazing. My girl just turned 2, so I guess I'm just still in that amazed moment. But she melts me everytime she says that and blows a little kiss. I couldn't imagine the evil in your heart to hurt such a little life. Specifically one you created & nourished with your own body. It's nonsensical. Get help (mental/family if available), or just flat out leave. There's no reason to resort to such evils. She deserves whatever happens to her in prison. Just like the men, the ladies also "handle" those that harm innocent little ones...
If you're incapable of parenting, just leave. Please.
She claims mental illness but her words in her letter expose that she is hateful and vindictive and narcissistic wanting everyone to believe she was a victim and that she loves everyone so much….that is not love,call it whatever you want but it is self serving and hateful.
Her note basically said ‘I didn’t kill my kids, you did’ as a psychological game. It’s a narcissistic way to stint her own responsibility so she wouldn’t have to feel guilt for what she did. She’ll play victim to get validation that she’s right, that she’s not a nasty person and coerce people to goad for her and tell her she’s not. Manipulation, they’re masters at it, like *really* and it’s scary.
I know this extremely well because my mother is that type. Luckily, I was able to live, grow and get away with a few scars. It’s a very intense game of chance surviving mothers like that. They’re far better at an arms length, that’s if you can make it past being a child, imprisoned powerlessly under the supervision of unnecessary evil.
Don’t trust Facebook moms who post everyday about loving her kids, because the brutal reality is, she really doesn’t.
Narcissistic abuse 😢thankful 🙏🏿 🙌 you made it out be well ❤live well
I’m glad you made it out. I’m sorry you went through it.
Often wondered how a mom could spend a lot of time on social media and feel like she was isolating from the little ones or avoiding necessary housework…
I know very well what your talking about my daughter was like that thankfully she abandoned her children into my care and they are safe happy and want for nothing i wish you nothing but the best 💖
Good for you from a given out of that situation❤❤❤
The fact that she continued to stay with a man who didn't care for the 2 kids that weren't biologically his says pretty much all you need to know about where her priorities stood when it came to her kids
@@iy4563this this this
@@iy4563I agree with you
@@iy4563agree 💯
@@iy4563 👏 YESSS‼️‼️
Are you fucking kidding me?
This woman brutally murdered her innocent children and clearly has no remorse...and your comment is to bad mouth the guy??
Wtf is wrong with you? Sicko.
She was home with 3 kids filling out forms for food stamps while he was eating out with his mother and brother. Tells you alot.
Women always jumping to the defense of garbage murderers because it's another women
The fact that she’s so calm and collected and not at all upset screaming and flipping the eff out like most normal moms goes to show you just how insane she truly is.
She knows exactly what she did.
And she did it because she was resentful toward her own children for them being kids and her having to be a mother.
She killed the infant,her bfs baby to hurt him.
She’s completely off her rocker.
I feel so bad for all involved.
Like Susan Smith, who drowned her kids because the man she was interested in (while she was married) turned her away.
Just because someone doesn't respond to a traumatic event like you want them too doesn't mean theyre crazy. Not defending her at all but the fact she isn't screeching isn't what makes her guilty
Everyone responds to traumatic events differently, especially people who have experienced trauma in the past or are mentally ill
@@sarahamira5732 it don’t help her case either.
She is evil she planned it praying for her to Become a good person and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior 🙏✝️