I cannot believe that the police still tell people they have to wait a certain amount of time before reporting somebody is missing. The first 48 hours are absolutely the most important.
@@YourPalKindred Time and time again when we watch videos about people being abducted or kidnapped the first 24 or 48 hours are literally the most important, the victim may still be alive or they are deceased noone knows until they are found. If someone reports a missing person it should be taken seriously and have people looking for them immediately. There's videos and documentaries of people who had been abducted and within the first hour of them being reported missing they had been found and the abductor arrested and sentenced, of course not all situations are this successful I do understand that.
It’s actually fake , all 50 states you can report a second after it happened and the police will put out a whole search party. Most people don’t even call because they believe that myth to which that explains why people say “the police said wait 24 hrs”
It's because 98% of persons reported as missing turn up unharmed within the first 24-48 hrs. All you narc's think that the Fed's should just drop everything and go running after every reported "missing" person. PYFHO
One of the things that really stood out to me in this case was that Lori’s family removed “Hacking” from her headstone because they “just felt that Mark obviously didn’t want her anymore.” While they replaced it with _filhinha_ (Portuguese for “little daughter”), that quote literally broke my heart. He is a selfish, evil creature.
Doesn't seem like it could've been prevented. Sounded like she wanted to leave him, so He instantly killed her. Sounds like it was going to happen no matter what.
To cult members in that belief system, murder is less unholy than divorce it seems. There are many murders that happen for the same reason in that system, sadly. Honestly, I believe that "religion" make everyone under it a victim. God knows
@@dercioferreira6169 Her maiden name was already written on it, but it was originally followed by Hacking. They changed it to filhinha. Her father is from Brazil.
I went to school with Mark and his sister. His dad was also my pediatrician for 15 years. Idk what happened to Mark, because he had the best parents, always there for there kids, and very involved. One guy I talked to said he was assigned to guard Mark and he felt pure evil emanating from him. Mark was a chronic liar and his lies came crashing down on top of him. Rather than ask for help, he thought he’d cover it up with more lies and death. I was pregnant with my 2nd child when this happened and it sickened me that someone would kill their wife and unborn child and throw them away like trash. Just absolutely devastating for so many people.
@@Kelly-pp1etit’s not always the parents fault either tho. Good or bad, some kids are influenced by life experiences that are out of the parents/child’s control. Sometimes it’s the friends they choose, or social media these days. It goes both ways, you can’t assume it’s the parents fault or that it’s not. Some ppl are raised by good parents in general and turn out to be s h i t ppl…or ppl raised by s h i t parents in general that turn out great. Ppl that assume every bad person was raised to be bad or every good person was raised to be good are unrealistic. We don’t always do what we’re taught, sometimes we choose to do the opposite.
@@Kelly-pp1et"If you have the basis from your parents nothing can change that." Are you serious? You need to get some real life experience and meet some real life people and then come read your statement again. You may be stuck following every single thing your parents ever imprinted on you, but the rest of us grow up enough to make our own decisions regardless of our upbringing, either good or bad. Many people turn out the opposite of the way they were raised whether good or bad.
@@Kelly-pp1et Lol I guess my psychology degree was a waste of money then. Bummer. You clearly know more than I do on the subject of the human psyche and behavior.
@drivingbritt9617 OK but that's the thing -- he wasn't even a loser! He had a perfectly respectable job at a hospital. He didn't play video games all day unemployed like Halderson. Makes it so much more of a waste that he decided to construct all these lies to cover up a perfectly fine reality just because he wasn't a ✨️doctor✨️
I almost fell off my chair upon hearing a minimum of 6 years. Even with the new Lori law of 15 years it's still too lenient. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family.
He could had just leave..But I guess he was too much of a whip. In prison he with have all his needs taken care of. He won't have to work.Or cook his own food. And because his family love him ,he will have money in his book. And be able to buy goodies. Its a fact. Sad fact.
you and me both. I did a really loud 'WHAT THE FUCK" after hearing that. I can't believe Utah had a law that ridiculous. I'm glad it's changed now but 2035 is still too soon for him to come up for parole.
As a teen, I dated a deeply twisted and deceptive guy back in the 80’s. Drove him to and from work. During a bad snow storm I called to see if they would close early so I could make arrangements to pick him up, and they had NO idea who he was! Turns out he had a girlfriend on the side who would pick him up after I dropped him off, and who is now his wife. I paid for everything in the relationship (as apparently I was the only one working), which was fine, yet he told his mother that I was taking all of HIS money so he couldn’t pay rent. She hated me and I never knew why. I found all this out after the fact. Now it all makes sense. Psychopathic liar. Take care everyone!
@@ericlarousse1149 Remember that these are mental disorders that people have no choice having - it's usually a result of trauma or some other life event. This certainly NEVER excuses people who commit acts like murder or abuse but it's worth remembering not to paint all people with those conditions with the same brush as they did not ask to have the condition and many of them want to live normal lives.
How foolish could YOU be to date someone like that? You must have really been desperate, or he was really hot and your were sprung, considering that not only were you blind to everything he was doing, YOU PAID FOR EVERYTHING IN THE RELATIONSHIP?
When I saw the tombstone I couldn't believe they had his name on there, then they had it removed later, but still, why was it on there to begin with? They knew he was the killer before they found her body.
@reignman30 most likely His name was on it because they were still married. When we lost my sister we had to go through alot to prove she was no longer married otherwise her ex would have had the control of her funeral and headstone. Even though he murdered her he was still legally next of kin which makes my stomach turn. I'm sure Lori family had to go through the process to have his name removed. My heart absolutely aches for Lori and her family. We lost my sister at the hands of someone she loved and trusted. You never get over the pain and loss.
@@mommaofanangeldaughter8214I really don’t have the words to convey how sorry I am. I’m a mom so all I can say is that every parent knows that even thinking about losing a child - as cliche as it sounds - is their worst nightmare. The fact you have gone through this reality and at the hands of someone your daughter loved and trusted on top of it? Ugh. I cannot imagine the devastation and trauma your family has gone through. Sending you and your family so much love, I know it may seem so empty from a random internet stranger but I truly mean it ♥️
Even if I have heard a particular story a few times, I will still come to EWU to hear it again. The quality, insight on interrogations, and amount of information is unmatched.❤
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Marks dad was my doctor. It was sad when this happened. In his office they jad a big family photo. After this they put a piece of paper over mark in the photo but left Lori in the photo.
I was highly educated in "Clinical Detachment." My work ethic required it as I was an ER, RN trauma nurse. I totally Love your Voice, twisted stories, and all the work and time put into them. I still "Remove" my heart, but it aches just the same. Thanks and blessings to all. Praying 🙏
This case reminds me of Chandler Halderson. He killed his parents after his dad started to question his supposed schooling and job at NASA. It's so horrific to see monsters go to these lengths to cover up their dirty lies.
Wow, just wow. The time and energy these people put into their lies, they could actually do what they lie they do. It's terrifying that you truly don't know someone fully. And its terrifying what human beings are capable of. Poor innocent Lori loved him and trusted him. Gave up the job she loved just to support him in his dreams and look how he done her. Very,very sad and tragic. Bless the families involved, including his family. I couldn't imagine.
Yez! Thank you for saying this. I've often wondered the same about folks who spin these elaborate lies. Like if scammers used all that skill and brain power legitimately they'd be wealthier and no jail time hanging over their head! God bless Lori's broken hearted family and friends.😥
Exactly. Why did this guy decide to construct elaborate lies just to waste his opportunities in life? Seems like it would be easier to just go to med school
My brother has spun so many lies, that he gets them confused. He has 6 different stories about his accident that cost him his arm and 3 stories about his OD. These people that lie like this, they literally don't know how to tell the truth. Nor can they keep track of their lies forever
@@ismae-rienne4991 I feel my husband after 15 years the same only worse at 61 years old. I know my family wonders if I’m so miserable. Why am I still in this marriage? It’s a scary one because I became disabled in it physically feeling worse every argument of the day that he says it’s my fault holy shit.
@@brenne8030 I am so sorry. I will pray for u. I hope u get the strength to get out and with someone that cares about u that will help u when u need it.
Just the thought that he’s still finding ways to profit of her murder is baffling. Hopefully his parole is denied again and again because I can’t fathom the idea that her family has to share this planet with him.
Many states have “Son of Sam” laws now…formally known as a notoriety for profit law…the makes it a crime for a convicted criminal to make any form of profit based on their conviction. It’s bad enough they get paid to make nickels making license plates, do laundry, etc, during their sentences…they certainly don’t need to make millions in disgusting monetary gain that simultaneously causes more pain to the victims and their families. I believe CO has these statutes in place but he keeps trying.
I'm just glad his brother and father came out with the truth as soon as he confessed. Too often people protect their family members when they need to be brought to justice.
You could have your own netflix show the way you break down the crime, take us through the story, analyze the different people involved . Best UA-cam True Crime narrator!
I’m so glad you covered this case. And so in depth. I feel like Lori has been forgotten and her precious child too. It was a case that rocked Utah, one I will never forget.
The way he breaks down the cases , especially the interrogations is absolutely fascinating and totally addicting to watch to anyone whose a true crime fan. I can’t get enough of these. Especially the long interrogations throughout murder investigations. Please give me more !!!
She was far too good for him. It's awful that he took such a bright light away from this world. But I'm glad we get to learn her name and a little bit about who she was. She deserves more, but we can at least remember her.
That is crazy that he made up all those elaborate lies when he could have just invested that same energy into *actually* building a career. It's sad Lori has to lose her life because of this...
I know 😢 just happened with a child murder… lady said she heard a child crying out in the woods and did nothing… wtf is wrong with people 😢 I also watched one where neighbors watched a son drag his mom by her hair into the house as she screamed. They said she didn’t say “help” so they didn’t call?! What the fuck 😢
Narcissists are truly something despicable. My step-father is one. Being raised by him was miserable and I hated myself for twenty-five years because of him. Thought I was worthless. I know better now. But I fear for my mom's safety because he confided in the past that, after their breakup, he had thoughts of killing her because he couldn't have her. Narcissists are terrifying.
Sounds like my step dad. He would always put negative things into my mom's mind about her kid's. It took me so long to realize they were no good for me and I needed to get away from them if I wanted to work on myself.
@@nickyblue4866 or maybe she’s not lying. Tbh I find it absolutely disgusting when the step parent knowingly gets into a relationship with a person who has children and then doesn’t even like the kids. 🤷🏻♀️
EWU continues to be an inspiration to many people. May they continue to receive more blessings on their behalf. Their storytimes on this channel have always been one of the best.
This story gives me chills! I was married to someone just like that! Planned a graduation party but he was never attending school. Plus lots more! Lots of lies. Like he just couldn't help it.
It's stories like these that make me lose even more faith in humanity, question everything, second guess the "motives" of others in my life & truly contemplate just how well I _KNOW_ my spouse. *This is the ultimate betrayal.* And learning what actually happened to Lori & WHY makes this whole thing even worse! Simply confronting your spouse for their own deviant, pathological behavior & calling them out for getting caught in their own web of lies??!! I would have been beyond angry & irate had I been Lori! So tragic! Why did SHE have to pay such an enormous price...why did SHE have to pay any price at all?? So glad to hear that her family decided to remove that monsters last name from her grave stone. My thoughts, prayers & deepest condolences to her family, friends & loved ones.
Lol I never had any faith in humanity, why do people say they lost faith in humanity, we humans always prove and show that we are bunch of crazy apes , we've been insane apes since apes evolved
This was one of the scariest true crime documentaries I've ever seen. Simply because that guy and my ex-husband are so scarily similar. They did so many of the same things. Like leaving to go to school every day, except they were never going to school. That is so freaking specific. And there were so many other things like that. Made the hair on my arms raise and gave me that prickly chills feeling up and down my spine. I am really lucky to be alive. God bless her family, friends and supporters.
EWU is, hands down, one of THE BEST true crime channels I've ever watched. Your narration is right up there (in my humble opinion anyway 😁) with Peter Thomas, the narrator of "Forensic Files " and Bill Curtis of "Cold Case Files " and "American Justice ". I'm never disappointed when I see a new upload from EWU, love everything you do!!
When you discover a gross lie or lies about your significant other, never confront them alone, surprise them at a family gathering, with your things already cleared out of the home and your new location undisclosed.
You guys should do a case about Terry Weaver. He was a teenage boy who I went to school with in Blaine Washington. One day he came to school and told us all this crazy story that he had murdered a woman and even showed his blood stains on his clothes to prove it none of us believed, him at least at first... But then about a half an hour later detectives came and pulled him out of class the next thing I knew we were all being questioned individually about what he told us turns out he had actually killed a woman the night before he snuck into her house and stabbed her to death and raped her. I'll never forget it that day shattered my innocence
I couldn't find if he had been resentenced yet but as of 2018 they were going to resentence him due to some law that has been applied retroactively that made automatic life without parole not a thing for minors anymore even if tried as an adult. He could still get life without parole it just wouldn't have been the result of a mandatory sentence at that point.
Everytime EWU Crew posts, I get this sense of excitement that is indescribable compared to other crime documentary channels I've watched. You guys are amazing, and have had my support over the last year. 💚
Holy crap, that desk seargent should have been fired. You DO NOT need to wait 24 hours to report a missing person. If you have reasonable suspicion that someone you know is in danger, EVERY SECOND COUNTS. Making someone wait 24 hours would be a death sentence in some cases
Her death was so senseless....he killed her to try and keep his facade from collapsing. What a POS. He spent so long pretending to be in school, if he just would have put his efforts into actually doing it. SMH
I went into this hoping against all odds that he didn’t do this and that he just looked a little suspicious but about 2 seconds into the interrogation I knew…so heartbreaking. 😢
And he only got 6 YEARS....then after the public outcry was so much they only changed it to 15 years!?! Like he LITERALLY murdered his PREGNANT WIFE in cold blood knowing she was carrying his OWN CHILD and then dumped her in the TRASH but he ONLY gets 15 years?!? Initially 6 years?!?! I genuinely can NOT comprehend how a non violent marijuana "offender" can being doing LIFE in prison right now while a Narcissist Psychopath how murdered his wife carrying his own child and dumped them in the garbage can be released in 15 years 2035...... I don't feel safe knowing my future kids could possibly come across this man. I still feel like the public needs to do something to have REAL JUSTICE!
When they read her note my heart broke. She didn’t need for that man to be anything but honest. She loved him and was willing to make things work. Instead of working things out or just divorcing her, he chose the most vile option. I hope prison is misery for this man.
When a UA-cam commenter wrote, “This is the best true-crime narrator on UA-cam,” it resulted in a ❤. Still, no one could’ve predicted the over 5k Likes, & deep satisfaction it would bring to the Narrator.”
As soon as I heard he got a new mattress the same day she went missing.. I knew. You get a mattress for your new place, not get a new one right before you move. Also, as the detective id be like “ok new mattress, we’ll let me see the old one, where is it?”
I remember this. I feel like this was after Lacey Peterson. Makes me so sick what this monster did. Life just isnt fair. She didnt deserve this. Neither did her loved ones. How dare this "husband". The very thing he was supposed to protect her from.. smh.. 💔💔💔💔
Best narrator on UA-cam, hands down! As for that first interview with Mark, I'm in no way an expert but he seemed to be trying to remember his earlier story. If you tell the truth there's no need to even think about what to answer, to me it just comes automatically.
It's incredible how often snowballing lies lead to murder. I remember reading cases like this when I was a kid and... I could understand how they got there. I used to have to lie about school, I just couldn't hack it and my parents were harsh about it. It scared me to think that I could relate to murderers. Once I moved out, I made a real effort to never lie. It's a shameful habit that's surprisingly hard to break, but I did it. I don't need to lie anymore, and I'm really bad at it now lol
Wow the police continued searching the landfill for 3 months until they found her body. And who knows how long they would have continued searching if they didn't find her. I know that law enforcement will do the most meticulous, time consuming tasks to be able to solve something or find someone in relation to murder, but I didn't think they would go on for 3 months.
Omg EWU IS BACK TO ITS GLORYYYYYY! I this case, the narrator, THIS is what makes your channel top 3 best true crime channels on here. Great job keep doing vids like that! 👏🏾
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The fact that statement/ idea needs to be said is absolutely heartbreaking. I know this world has been deteriorating for decades, but... ugh. Makes me physically ill.
Are you kidding me??? 6 years for aggravated MURDER?! What am I missing? I understand they changed the sentencing guidelines in Lori's honor, but...how many murderers are on the street in Utah because they didn't believe in giving decent sentences??? It's so icky! If those judges had lost loved ones to murder, I bet they'd have wanted much longer sentences. Like 50 years to life, or life without parole! Even 15 years to life is laughable!
I remember this so well. It effected everyone. Many things happen at memory grove.Prayers to the family. Now we need to find Susan Powell. Prayers to her family also.
I will never understand how these people put so much effort into faking things like they go sit at a coffee shop all day instead of just going to get a job. like he made her quit her job knowing that he didn't have one himself. so bizarre
I haven't heard from this channel in a minute. I love this channel. And I agree, best narrator bar none. I watched the one about that college kid in the interrogation room that was frozen the whole. Totally creepy and tragic for the family. I love justice and the fact we get to see these evil people get what they deserve.
I so wish there were longer videos I haven't watched yet. I love your narration. 😀 Such a sad story but so similar to others. Double lives and killing spouses to hide their BS! My sincere condolences to the victim and the family. He should have never take her life and the life of their baby! RIP to both of them!
Wait a second… he claimed she had a heavy menstrual cycle on the mattress but she was also 5 weeks pregnant at the time? So her last period was over a month ago at the time and he only replaces the mattress after she disappears and they just slept on a “heavily blood soaked mattress” and conceived a child, presumably on that same mattress???
I remember this, and watching news about the investigation when it was ongoing. My parents were really worried about my older sisters because they liked to run in Memory Grove, too. We unfortunately have a large homeless population in Salt Lake City, and it looks like Mark was trying to blame them for what happened to Lori. Crazy that it's been almost 20 years since then.
How the hell does anything less than life in prison make any sense for murdering someone? Especially a planned, calculated, then an attempt at covering it up. Nothing less than life in prison should be the law.
What an awful story, poor Lori lost her life cause a man could not bring himself to be honest. We have a similar case in France, the man was Jean-Claude Romand and lied about being a doctor to his family, he ended up killing his wife, kids and in laws i think. Worst thing was that he had friend who were doctors and when they talked about their work they couldn't tell that he was a liar cause he actually studied discovery in medical fields. If he had put his energy in working toward a doctor career he would have been one.
Sounds like his lies got so out of hand that he “felt he had to kill her to keep his lies from being exposed” Poor woman, she had no idea who she was laying next to every night.
Fortunately, all the murderers forget to readjust the car seats to the victim's size... I remember this tragic case when it happened, rest in peace Lori! PS - "Filhinha" means "Little daugther" in Portuguese
Yeyyyy u have uploaded it makes my day when u do…… law-enforcement really need to change the 24 hours missing person to 1 minute seriously because anything can happen within 24 hours and it will be down to them that the person had been murdered killed deceased or what not in that time frame, when they can actually save them, save more people
The look on his face was priceless when denying the lie detector test, ironically the officer didn’t know it wouldn’t be good for his pathological lies
I live in Utah, I remember this case. The one thing I remember most, ( besides the murder) is him checking memory Grove for her with volunteers and the news filming it. Funny how criminals think everyone else is dumb.
Probably because the argument was at midnight and Mark said he played video games “for about an hour” then went through the packed stuff. So it’s probably closer to 1:30-2am. The neighbors might have been in a sleep. Also, a lot of ppl don’t know what an actual gun shot sounds like. It’s not like the movies and the building layout and materials used can change the sound. Finally .22 caliber is one of the smallest calibers. Add subsonic rounds and it could be confused for someone dropping something or maybe slamming something.
I don’t care what anyone says, this narrator is the best true crime narrator on UA-cam.
I agree!! 💞
The way they analyze it all is amazing
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Me too!
I agree 100 percent, this is my favorite channel. I love listening to him tell the stories.
I cannot believe that the police still tell people they have to wait a certain amount of time before reporting somebody is missing. The first 48 hours are absolutely the most important.
I believe it should be a criminal offence. Every second matters in a missing person report. It can literally be life or death
@@YourPalKindred Time and time again when we watch videos about people being abducted or kidnapped the first 24 or 48 hours are literally the most important, the victim may still be alive or they are deceased noone knows until they are found. If someone reports a missing person it should be taken seriously and have people looking for them immediately. There's videos and documentaries of people who had been abducted and within the first hour of them being reported missing they had been found and the abductor arrested and sentenced, of course not all situations are this successful I do understand that.
It’s actually fake , all 50 states you can report a second after it happened and the police will put out a whole search party. Most people don’t even call because they believe that myth to which that explains why people say “the police said wait 24 hrs”
It's because 98% of persons reported as missing turn up unharmed within the first 24-48 hrs. All you narc's think that the Fed's should just drop everything and go running after every reported "missing" person. PYFHO
@@YourPalKindred I've read that police don't do that anymore, esp. with a child or a vulnerable person.
One of the things that really stood out to me in this case was that Lori’s family removed “Hacking” from her headstone because they “just felt that Mark obviously didn’t want her anymore.” While they replaced it with _filhinha_ (Portuguese for “little daughter”), that quote literally broke my heart. He is a selfish, evil creature.
Doesn't seem like it could've been prevented. Sounded like she wanted to leave him, so He instantly killed her. Sounds like it was going to happen no matter what.
To cult members in that belief system, murder is less unholy than divorce it seems. There are many murders that happen for the same reason in that system, sadly. Honestly, I believe that "religion" make everyone under it a victim. God knows
Sounds like there's an element of "Grandiosity" in all of "Humanity".
That's what i thought i was reading, I'm portuguese. But I they said they replaced it with her maiden name Soares
@@dercioferreira6169 Her maiden name was already written on it, but it was originally followed by Hacking. They changed it to filhinha. Her father is from Brazil.
I went to school with Mark and his sister. His dad was also my pediatrician for 15 years. Idk what happened to Mark, because he had the best parents, always there for there kids, and very involved. One guy I talked to said he was assigned to guard Mark and he felt pure evil emanating from him. Mark was a chronic liar and his lies came crashing down on top of him. Rather than ask for help, he thought he’d cover it up with more lies and death. I was pregnant with my 2nd child when this happened and it sickened me that someone would kill their wife and unborn child and throw them away like trash. Just absolutely devastating for so many people.
Did you ever see any warning signs yourself?
So sorry you had to know someone like that
@@Kelly-pp1etit’s not always the parents fault either tho. Good or bad, some kids are influenced by life experiences that are out of the parents/child’s control. Sometimes it’s the friends they choose, or social media these days. It goes both ways, you can’t assume it’s the parents fault or that it’s not. Some ppl are raised by good parents in general and turn out to be s h i t ppl…or ppl raised by s h i t parents in general that turn out great.
Ppl that assume every bad person was raised to be bad or every good person was raised to be good are unrealistic. We don’t always do what we’re taught, sometimes we choose to do the opposite.
@@Kelly-pp1et"If you have the basis from your parents nothing can change that." Are you serious? You need to get some real life experience and meet some real life people and then come read your statement again. You may be stuck following every single thing your parents ever imprinted on you, but the rest of us grow up enough to make our own decisions regardless of our upbringing, either good or bad. Many people turn out the opposite of the way they were raised whether good or bad.
@@Kelly-pp1et Lol I guess my psychology degree was a waste of money then. Bummer. You clearly know more than I do on the subject of the human psyche and behavior.
She put her masters- her career and life- on hold for his, and he was lying about going to med school 🤦🏽♀️. A coward
Much worse. A psychopathic liar and murdere😢
He couldn't confess that he was a loser. Chandler Halderson much
@drivingbritt9617 OK but that's the thing -- he wasn't even a loser! He had a perfectly respectable job at a hospital. He didn't play video games all day unemployed like Halderson. Makes it so much more of a waste that he decided to construct all these lies to cover up a perfectly fine reality just because he wasn't a ✨️doctor✨️
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there's plenty more losers like this besides Chandler. its actually concerning how many stories I seen like this.
I almost fell off my chair upon hearing a minimum of 6 years. Even with the new Lori law of 15 years it's still too lenient. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family.
He could had just leave..But I guess he was too much of a whip. In prison he with have all his needs taken care of. He won't have to work.Or cook his own food. And because his family love him ,he will have money in his book. And be able to buy goodies. Its a fact.
Sad fact.
you and me both. I did a really loud 'WHAT THE FUCK" after hearing that. I can't believe Utah had a law that ridiculous. I'm glad it's changed now but 2035 is still too soon for him to come up for parole.
And if you think about it, hes already out and free
It's as if the laws were made to protect psychopath monsters.
He should of only got a couple years though
As a teen, I dated a deeply twisted and deceptive guy back in the 80’s. Drove him to and from work. During a bad snow storm I called to see if they would close early so I could make arrangements to pick him up, and they had NO idea who he was! Turns out he had a girlfriend on the side who would pick him up after I dropped him off, and who is now his wife.
I paid for everything in the relationship (as apparently I was the only one working), which was fine, yet he told his mother that I was taking all of HIS money so he couldn’t pay rent. She hated me and I never knew why. I found all this out after the fact.
Now it all makes sense. Psychopathic liar.
Take care everyone!
Wow that could be an EWU episode itself. Glad you got away from him.
BS
Narcissist, not psychopath. Narcs are far worse.
@@ericlarousse1149 Remember that these are mental disorders that people have no choice having - it's usually a result of trauma or some other life event. This certainly NEVER excuses people who commit acts like murder or abuse but it's worth remembering not to paint all people with those conditions with the same brush as they did not ask to have the condition and many of them want to live normal lives.
How foolish could YOU be to date someone like that? You must have really been desperate, or he was really hot and your were sprung, considering that not only were you blind to everything he was doing, YOU PAID FOR EVERYTHING IN THE RELATIONSHIP?
My heart breaks for both families. Kudos to her father for putting only her maiden name on her tombstone.
When I saw the tombstone I couldn't believe they had his name on there, then they had it removed later, but still, why was it on there to begin with? They knew he was the killer before they found her body.
@reignman30 most likely His name was on it because they were still married. When we lost my sister we had to go through alot to prove she was no longer married otherwise her ex would have had the control of her funeral and headstone. Even though he murdered her he was still legally next of kin which makes my stomach turn. I'm sure Lori family had to go through the process to have his name removed. My heart absolutely aches for Lori and her family. We lost my sister at the hands of someone she loved and trusted. You never get over the pain and loss.
@@mommaofanangeldaughter8214I really don’t have the words to convey how sorry I am. I’m a mom so all I can say is that every parent knows that even thinking about losing a child - as cliche as it sounds - is their worst nightmare. The fact you have gone through this reality and at the hands of someone your daughter loved and trusted on top of it? Ugh. I cannot imagine the devastation and trauma your family has gone through. Sending you and your family so much love, I know it may seem so empty from a random internet stranger but I truly mean it ♥️
Even if I have heard a particular story a few times, I will still come to EWU to hear it again. The quality, insight on interrogations, and amount of information is unmatched.❤
Love this channel. When I go on my laptop, I look for it.😊😊🎉🎉
EWU needs a Netflix deal. The time and effort they put in to come up with amazing content is something I really admire. The narrator just has a voice that’s perfect for this type of content, he could explain the process of paint drying and he would make it sound interesting 😂 thanks EWU love what you guys do 😃👍🏻
f**k netflix, EWU needs its own streaming service
Not Netflix but like a True crime network that you can pay for every month, there's one I use the best I've ever had and they would fit absolutely PERFECTLY there. I forgot what it's called but it's from the UK I believe if I'm right, Starts with a G I think lol I haven't watched it in a month or 2 so forgive me for being forgetful but EWU crew and Murder with my Husband and a couple of others would be perfect as heckin heck for that true crime subscription 🤤😍🥰🥀⚰️💀✨💙💙💙🗡️🤗
why since it's free on U TUBE???
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The narrator is Russell Archy, he's an incredibly talented voice actor. His voice is perfect for true crime
This narrator has a LOT of bass in his voice. Perfect for telling all those creepy crime stories 😍
Reminds me of Paul Eiding narrating the lore tomes in Diablo 1
Modern technology
No he isnt... he beats around the bush to pad the run time... sometimes
This narrator is a paid professional.
His name is Russell Archey
Marks dad was my doctor. It was sad when this happened. In his office they jad a big family photo. After this they put a piece of paper over mark in the photo but left Lori in the photo.
That's heartbreaking (this whole event is) 💔
So many victims all the families sin multiplies
I really respect them for accepting what their son did instead of supporting him blindly and denying his involvement. Must be brutal
No other crime channel compares. The facts acquired for each story is absolutely insane.
Agreed they rethroned jcs like 2 years ago
Bailey sarian does, she’s awesome
I was highly educated in "Clinical Detachment." My work ethic required it as I was an ER, RN trauma nurse. I totally Love your Voice, twisted stories, and all the work and time put into them. I still "Remove" my heart, but it aches just the same. Thanks and blessings to all. Praying 🙏
Yes, this man's voice makes me keep coming back to hear him tell these stories. This channel is the BEST! ❤
This case reminds me of Chandler Halderson. He killed his parents after his dad started to question his supposed schooling and job at NASA. It's so horrific to see monsters go to these lengths to cover up their dirty lies.
Or micheal guy jr or even grant amato
Yup that what I was thinking
Same here. I was gonna post this too
Lets not forget Bart Whitaker!
I was thinking of Chandler Halderson too! Then I saw this thread and thought, “Are we watching too much true crime? Nah” 😂😂 Love to you, my people! ❤
Wow, just wow. The time and energy these people put into their lies, they could actually do what they lie they do. It's terrifying that you truly don't know someone fully. And its terrifying what human beings are capable of. Poor innocent Lori loved him and trusted him. Gave up the job she loved just to support him in his dreams and look how he done her. Very,very sad and tragic. Bless the families involved, including his family. I couldn't imagine.
Yez! Thank you for saying this. I've often wondered the same about folks who spin these elaborate lies. Like if scammers used all that skill and brain power legitimately they'd be wealthier and no jail time hanging over their head! God bless Lori's broken hearted family and friends.😥
Exactly. Why did this guy decide to construct elaborate lies just to waste his opportunities in life? Seems like it would be easier to just go to med school
My brother has spun so many lies, that he gets them confused. He has 6 different stories about his accident that cost him his arm and 3 stories about his OD. These people that lie like this, they literally don't know how to tell the truth. Nor can they keep track of their lies forever
@@ismae-rienne4991 I feel my husband after 15 years the same only worse at 61 years old. I know my family wonders if I’m so miserable. Why am I still in this marriage? It’s a scary one because I became disabled in it physically feeling worse every argument of the day that he says it’s my fault holy shit.
@@brenne8030 I am so sorry. I will pray for u. I hope u get the strength to get out and with someone that cares about u that will help u when u need it.
Just the thought that he’s still finding ways to profit of her murder is baffling. Hopefully his parole is denied again and again because I can’t fathom the idea that her family has to share this planet with him.
I wouldn't be surprised if los of murder minded people will want to move to Utah.
And killing his child just because he loved lying more than people. Sick.
Many states have “Son of Sam” laws now…formally known as a notoriety for profit law…the makes it a crime for a convicted criminal to make any form of profit based on their conviction. It’s bad enough they get paid to make nickels making license plates, do laundry, etc, during their sentences…they certainly don’t need to make millions in disgusting monetary gain that simultaneously causes more pain to the victims and their families.
I believe CO has these statutes in place but he keeps trying.
And here I am just hoping someone locked up with him....eliminates him.
I'm just glad his brother and father came out with the truth as soon as he confessed. Too often people protect their family members when they need to be brought to justice.
You could have your own netflix show the way you break down the crime, take us through the story, analyze the different people involved . Best UA-cam True Crime narrator!
Wait did I hear that right?! He said he threw away the mattress because his wife had a heavy period?! she's supposed to be a few weeks pregnant!!
Good point!
Jackass huh. I didn't even realize that either 😅
Oh good point! I didn’t connect that!
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one to catch that!!! Such a heartbreaking story.
I definitely caught that smh
I’m so glad you covered this case. And so in depth. I feel like Lori has been forgotten and her precious child too. It was a case that rocked Utah, one I will never forget.
The way he breaks down the cases , especially the interrogations is absolutely fascinating and totally addicting to watch to anyone whose a true crime fan. I can’t get enough of these. Especially the long interrogations throughout murder investigations. Please give me more !!!
Man I can’t take it anymore. Every case is THE MOST TWISTED CASE IVE EVER HEARD OF
This one didn't even have 2% twist. Seemed pretty obvious from the beginning.
At least the unseen footage is interesting...
😂 yup. Everyone I click on. The suspense is always killing me
THE BEST true crime channel on the web. To the point and some great police interviews. Keep up the great work.
She was far too good for him. It's awful that he took such a bright light away from this world. But I'm glad we get to learn her name and a little bit about who she was. She deserves more, but we can at least remember her.
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Agree..
Sad... Very Sad.
Imagine if he would have put all this hard work into actually pursuing something .
RIP Lori
lol ur bad
he was good at Nintendo
That is crazy that he made up all those elaborate lies when he could have just invested that same energy into *actually* building a career. It's sad Lori has to lose her life because of this...
Bizarre isn't it.
it always baffles me when neighbors come forward DAYS later saying they heard screams or fighting. too often these things go unreported
Horton Hears a Homicide
I know 😢 just happened with a child murder… lady said she heard a child crying out in the woods and did nothing… wtf is wrong with people 😢 I also watched one where neighbors watched a son drag his mom by her hair into the house as she screamed. They said she didn’t say “help” so they didn’t call?! What the fuck 😢
"How nervous are you?"
Mark: "Yes!"
Narcissists are truly something despicable. My step-father is one. Being raised by him was miserable and I hated myself for twenty-five years because of him. Thought I was worthless. I know better now. But I fear for my mom's safety because he confided in the past that, after their breakup, he had thoughts of killing her because he couldn't have her. Narcissists are terrifying.
Sounds like my step dad. He would always put negative things into my mom's mind about her kid's. It took me so long to realize they were no good for me and I needed to get away from them if I wanted to work on myself.
That sounds like something my lieing step daughter would say..
@@nickyblue4866 or maybe she’s not lying. Tbh I find it absolutely disgusting when the step parent knowingly gets into a relationship with a person who has children and then doesn’t even like the kids. 🤷🏻♀️
@@nickyblue4866ya probably cus you said it
Get over it
EWU continues to be an inspiration to many people. May they continue to receive more blessings on their behalf. Their storytimes on this channel have always been one of the best.
This story gives me chills! I was married to someone just like that! Planned a graduation party but he was never attending school. Plus lots more! Lots of lies. Like he just couldn't help it.
Stop lying Angie
As soon as he said Mark had “accidentally overslept” that morning, you knew it was definitely him. RIP Laurie 😔💜💙
One of the best crime analysis channels on UA-cam!
It's stories like these that make me lose even more faith in humanity, question everything, second guess the "motives" of others in my life & truly contemplate just how well I _KNOW_ my spouse. *This is the ultimate betrayal.* And learning what actually happened to Lori & WHY makes this whole thing even worse! Simply confronting your spouse for their own deviant, pathological behavior & calling them out for getting caught in their own web of lies??!! I would have been beyond angry & irate had I been Lori! So tragic! Why did SHE have to pay such an enormous price...why did SHE have to pay any price at all?? So glad to hear that her family decided to remove that monsters last name from her grave stone. My thoughts, prayers & deepest condolences to her family, friends & loved ones.
I feel the same. The petty motive make this story even more shocking!
dont date narcissists. once a liar and a cheat, always a liar and a cheat
This is who they are
Lol I never had any faith in humanity, why do people say they lost faith in humanity, we humans always prove and show that we are bunch of crazy apes , we've been insane apes since apes evolved
@@DoomsdayMayBeOkay nmmmmnmmmmmmmmnmnmmmmmmnvnbmmmm
This was one of the scariest true crime documentaries I've ever seen. Simply because that guy and my ex-husband are so scarily similar. They did so many of the same things. Like leaving to go to school every day, except they were never going to school.
That is so freaking specific. And there were so many other things like that. Made the hair on my arms raise and gave me that prickly chills feeling up and down my spine.
I am really lucky to be alive.
God bless her family, friends and supporters.
Wow glad you dodged that
EWU is, hands down, one of THE BEST true crime channels I've ever watched. Your narration is right up there (in my humble opinion anyway 😁) with Peter Thomas, the narrator of "Forensic Files " and Bill Curtis of "Cold Case Files " and "American Justice ". I'm never disappointed when I see a new upload from EWU, love everything you do!!
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So well put. I couldn't agree more!
Definitely! Peter Thomas and Bill Curtis were always my favorites.
Don't disgrace Bill Curtis
The best narrator! It makes the story much more interesting and exciting at the same time sad for those who were the victims of the crime..
When you discover a gross lie or lies about your significant other, never confront them alone, surprise them at a family gathering, with your things already cleared out of the home and your new location undisclosed.
You guys should do a case about Terry Weaver. He was a teenage boy who I went to school with in Blaine Washington. One day he came to school and told us all this crazy story that he had murdered a woman and even showed his blood stains on his clothes to prove it none of us believed, him at least at first... But then about a half an hour later detectives came and pulled him out of class the next thing I knew we were all being questioned individually about what he told us turns out he had actually killed a woman the night before he snuck into her house and stabbed her to death and raped her. I'll never forget it that day shattered my innocence
Omfg, that's horrible! 😬
I couldn't find if he had been resentenced yet but as of 2018 they were going to resentence him due to some law that has been applied retroactively that made automatic life without parole not a thing for minors anymore even if tried as an adult. He could still get life without parole it just wouldn't have been the result of a mandatory sentence at that point.
@@panikk2 I don't see that applying to anything already sentenced.
Can you give more details? I looked it up but cant find anything
Is that the experience that turned you gay?
Everytime EWU Crew posts, I get this sense of excitement that is indescribable compared to other crime documentary channels I've watched. You guys are amazing, and have had my support over the last year. 💚
Holy crap, that desk seargent should have been fired. You DO NOT need to wait 24 hours to report a missing person. If you have reasonable suspicion that someone you know is in danger, EVERY SECOND COUNTS. Making someone wait 24 hours would be a death sentence in some cases
This was 21 years ago. Back then this was common still. Before everyone had phones and stuff it was common to get false reports. Now it’s different
“As a fan of True Crime you probably thought that was particularly suspicious…”
How dare you call me out!
But yes I immediately was suspicious 😂
“As a fan of true crime you probably found that particularly suspicious” I’ve been exposed
Her death was so senseless....he killed her to try and keep his facade from collapsing. What a POS. He spent so long pretending to be in school, if he just would have put his efforts into actually doing it. SMH
And that precious child too😢
I went into this hoping against all odds that he didn’t do this and that he just looked a little suspicious but about 2 seconds into the interrogation I knew…so heartbreaking. 😢
Yes, it was easy to predict. What a creep.
And he only got 6 YEARS....then after the public outcry was so much they only changed it to 15 years!?! Like he LITERALLY murdered his PREGNANT WIFE in cold blood knowing she was carrying his OWN CHILD and then dumped her in the TRASH but he ONLY gets 15 years?!? Initially 6 years?!?!
I genuinely can NOT comprehend how a non violent marijuana "offender" can being doing LIFE in prison right now while a Narcissist Psychopath how murdered his wife carrying his own child and dumped them in the garbage can be released in 15 years 2035......
I don't feel safe knowing my future kids could possibly come across this man. I still feel like the public needs to do something to have REAL JUSTICE!
These videos are always oddly relaxing, even when the topics are horrific. The narration is on point!
Murder is relaxing? Issues?
@@m.t.1616 *Oddly* relaxing, honey.
When they read her note my heart broke. She didn’t need for that man to be anything but honest. She loved him and was willing to make things work. Instead of working things out or just divorcing her, he chose the most vile option. I hope prison is misery for this man.
When a UA-cam commenter wrote, “This is the best true-crime narrator on UA-cam,” it resulted in a ❤. Still, no one could’ve predicted the over 5k Likes, & deep satisfaction it would bring to the Narrator.”
Wait, she had a heavy period on the mattress so he threw it out? I thought she was 5 weeks pregnant.
As soon as I heard he got a new mattress the same day she went missing.. I knew. You get a mattress for your new place, not get a new one right before you move. Also, as the detective id be like “ok new mattress, we’ll let me see the old one, where is it?”
Dead giveaway
I remember this. I feel like this was after Lacey Peterson. Makes me so sick what this monster did. Life just isnt fair. She didnt deserve this. Neither did her loved ones. How dare this "husband". The very thing he was supposed to protect her from.. smh.. 💔💔💔💔
Peterson now wants a new trial.
You know what, I am not upset about being single anymore after watching all these crime series that the main suspect is the person’s life partner.
Best narrator on UA-cam, hands down!
As for that first interview with Mark, I'm in no way an expert but he seemed to be trying to remember his earlier story. If you tell the truth there's no need to even think about what to answer, to me it just comes automatically.
I am surprised this story does not get more attention. Dude killed his wife because he was living a double life then tossed her in a dumpster.
It got a lot of attention at the time it occurred.
This is hands down my favorite series.
It's incredible how often snowballing lies lead to murder.
I remember reading cases like this when I was a kid and... I could understand how they got there. I used to have to lie about school, I just couldn't hack it and my parents were harsh about it. It scared me to think that I could relate to murderers. Once I moved out, I made a real effort to never lie. It's a shameful habit that's surprisingly hard to break, but I did it. I don't need to lie anymore, and I'm really bad at it now lol
Wow the police continued searching the landfill for 3 months until they found her body. And who knows how long they would have continued searching if they didn't find her. I know that law enforcement will do the most meticulous, time consuming tasks to be able to solve something or find someone in relation to murder, but I didn't think they would go on for 3 months.
Honesty goes a long way, way further than where his lies got him. Sympathy with the family in such a tragic case. RIP.
Yeah one had to wonder WTF the plan was here. He had to know that crap was going to catch up to him eventually.
This narrator simply commands your full attention and I absolutely comply every time lol
Omg EWU IS BACK TO ITS GLORYYYYYY! I this case, the narrator, THIS is what makes your channel top 3 best true crime channels on here. Great job keep doing vids like that! 👏🏾
EWU is my favorite ever. The storytelling. The narrator's voice and how the stories put together. Two thumbs up!
I love their little placebo computer voice box. It does absolutely nothing
Mark's entire demeanour is certainly that of a guilty man
Takes one to know one
Are you insane @@m.t.1616
To all runners, never continuously run the same route at the same time everyday. Someone is always watching. Always try to change up your daily outside routine
Serpentine....you gotta run a serpentine pattern...
The fact that statement/ idea needs to be said is absolutely heartbreaking. I know this world has been deteriorating for decades, but... ugh. Makes me physically ill.
I will only watch the videos with this narrator. He's perfect.
Your voice makes these videos come to life! I love EWU. I watch them everyday!
Aaahhhhh, my favorite voice. Thank you for helping me get through my laundry, EWU!! Always excited for new videos. 🙂
Nice start to a day off ❤
Hope everyone else is having an amazing day :)
Never trust someone who says “oh my heck” before saying someone’s missing I think the situation merits a bit of cursing don’t you think
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Hahaha hell yea!
Are you kidding me??? 6 years for aggravated MURDER?! What am I missing? I understand they changed the sentencing guidelines in Lori's honor, but...how many murderers are on the street in Utah because they didn't believe in giving decent sentences??? It's so icky! If those judges had lost loved ones to murder, I bet they'd have wanted much longer sentences. Like 50 years to life, or life without parole! Even 15 years to life is laughable!
Loris Law...this news made my day! Thank you dear Lori.
I remember this so well. It effected everyone. Many things happen at memory grove.Prayers to the family.
Now we need to find Susan Powell. Prayers to her family also.
I'm so glad her father had the murderer's last name removed from her headstone. Narcissists are the worst. Poor Lori. She deserved so much better.
I will never understand how these people put so much effort into faking things like they go sit at a coffee shop all day instead of just going to get a job. like he made her quit her job knowing that he didn't have one himself. so bizarre
I haven't heard from this channel in a minute. I love this channel. And I agree, best narrator bar none. I watched the one about that college kid in the interrogation room that was frozen the whole. Totally creepy and tragic for the family. I love justice and the fact we get to see these evil people get what they deserve.
The first 48 hours are crucial in finding a missing person. That's why police make you wait 24 hours before they care. Amazing
So sad! The loss of a life due to a selfish, narcissistic man! May she and her unborn baby RIP!
Ok dr. Phil
The Raven: "as a fan of True Crime, you probably thought that was suspicious" 🤣 I love this channel ❤️
I so wish there were longer videos I haven't watched yet. I love your narration. 😀 Such a sad story but so similar to others. Double lives and killing spouses to hide their BS! My sincere condolences to the victim and the family. He should have never take her life and the life of their baby! RIP to both of them!
Wait a second… he claimed she had a heavy menstrual cycle on the mattress but she was also 5 weeks pregnant at the time? So her last period was over a month ago at the time and he only replaces the mattress after she disappears and they just slept on a “heavily blood soaked mattress” and conceived a child, presumably on that same mattress???
Right?! I thought the same thing.
Bingo
I remember this, and watching news about the investigation when it was ongoing. My parents were really worried about my older sisters because they liked to run in Memory Grove, too. We unfortunately have a large homeless population in Salt Lake City, and it looks like Mark was trying to blame them for what happened to Lori.
Crazy that it's been almost 20 years since then.
How the hell does anything less than life in prison make any sense for murdering someone? Especially a planned, calculated, then an attempt at covering it up. Nothing less than life in prison should be the law.
i introduced my wife to EWU, we are both remote workers and these stories are a godsend we both listen to them all day while at work lol
😱 wow what a shocking story, may lori rest in peace, 🙏. Another outstanding video thanks raven 🖤
15 years is still way too short for aggravated murder, wtf?!?!?!
Really enjoying going through and binge watching your catalog of videos. 😊😊
What an awful story, poor Lori lost her life cause a man could not bring himself to be honest. We have a similar case in France, the man was Jean-Claude Romand and lied about being a doctor to his family, he ended up killing his wife, kids and in laws i think. Worst thing was that he had friend who were doctors and when they talked about their work they couldn't tell that he was a liar cause he actually studied discovery in medical fields. If he had put his energy in working toward a doctor career he would have been one.
Sounds like his lies got so out of hand that he “felt he had to kill her to keep his lies from being exposed”
Poor woman, she had no idea who she was laying next to every night.
Fortunately, all the murderers forget to readjust the car seats to the victim's size...
I remember this tragic case when it happened, rest in peace Lori!
PS - "Filhinha" means "Little daugther" in Portuguese
I’m not taking any kind of “truth telling test” without a lawyer if I’m in his position.
Yeah, if you've killed your wife you definitely want your lawyer present.
poor lori. she looked really pretty and happy on those pictures. rest in peace. please everyone, be safe 💙
Your voice reminds me of Optimus Prime from Transformers! Your channel is my absolute favorite! Thanks for the work you do!! 😍
Yeyyyy u have uploaded it makes my day when u do…… law-enforcement really need to change the 24 hours missing person to 1 minute seriously because anything can happen within 24 hours and it will be down to them that the person had been murdered killed deceased or what not in that time frame, when they can actually save them, save more people
Hi I'm new to EWU. What a great channel. Beautifully narrated and detailed.
The look on his face was priceless when denying the lie detector test, ironically the officer didn’t know it wouldn’t be good for his pathological lies
The irony is that actually going to college would have been easier than spinning that intricate web of lies .. 🙄
I live in Utah, I remember this case. The one thing I remember most, ( besides the murder) is him checking memory Grove for her with volunteers and the news filming it. Funny how criminals think everyone else is dumb.
How come the neighbors hears the screams but not the gunshot?
Probably because the argument was at midnight and Mark said he played video games “for about an hour” then went through the packed stuff. So it’s probably closer to 1:30-2am. The neighbors might have been in a sleep. Also, a lot of ppl don’t know what an actual gun shot sounds like. It’s not like the movies and the building layout and materials used can change the sound. Finally .22 caliber is one of the smallest calibers. Add subsonic rounds and it could be confused for someone dropping something or maybe slamming something.