Man Realizes He Unknowingly Helped a Killer

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  • @Raspberrize
    @Raspberrize 3 дні тому +4679

    She was so clever trying to answer all the questions of the operator without them realizing!! She really really tried.

    • @jashuawood7631
      @jashuawood7631 3 дні тому +188

      It hurts so bad, there's so many evil, fucked up people in this world.. she was fighting for her life the whole time...

    • @maximumeffort78
      @maximumeffort78 2 дні тому +215

      I absolutely believe she removed her ring intentionally. She made sure all the evidence was there! All she could, in every way.

    • @xiaohuli96
      @xiaohuli96 2 дні тому +19

      Wasn't smart enough to stay locked inside her house when a weird stranger drove by her house at least four times..

    • @maximumeffort78
      @maximumeffort78 2 дні тому +134

      @ I believe she was forcibly taken into her home with her 2 babies from her back patio, put them both in one crib to keep them safe, and left with him… in fear of her life and her children’s lives. Even if he knocked on her door for help and she opened it and was overpowered right there, doesn’t make her stupid. Alarm bells were going off within 10 minutes of her husband getting there. Wonder how quick you’d react? That was muscle memory, likely learned from her father.
      Also, that’s just a shit thing to say.

    • @Amor-lz5sb
      @Amor-lz5sb 2 дні тому +133

      @@xiaohuli96 thats cruel to say about someone who is dead. Men are physically stronger and capable of anything.

  • @Dessamator
    @Dessamator 3 дні тому +2778

    Denise was failed. She was so smart, and so brave. My heart hurts for her.

    • @calliope4293
      @calliope4293 2 дні тому +54

      Denise Amber Lee was a 21-year-old woman from North Port, Florida, whose tragic 2008 kidnapping and murder highlighted critical issues in emergency response systems. Denise was abducted from her home by Michael King, a man who had planned the crime in advance. Despite several 911 calls, including one from Denise herself during her captivity and others from witnesses who saw suspicious activity, miscommunication and delays in law enforcement response led to her death.
      The case became a turning point for advocating improvements in 911 dispatch systems, including better training, technology, and communication protocols to prevent similar tragedies. Denise’s husband, Nathan Lee, became a vocal advocate for enhancing emergency response systems and founded the Denise Amber Lee Foundation, which works to ensure public safety through improvements in the 911 system.
      The case underscores the importance of effective communication between 911 operators, law enforcement, and the public to save lives in emergencies.

    • @SeanoMacSeanomac
      @SeanoMacSeanomac 2 дні тому +32

      The 911 operator pissed me off!! When seconds count, the police are minutes away!!

    • @imalwaysright
      @imalwaysright 2 дні тому +13

      Same. I was hoping this would turn out with good news. I feel so sorry for Denise and her family. Bless the cousin’s daughter that called police and tried to save her.

    • @tallblonde1976
      @tallblonde1976 2 дні тому +17

      @@imalwaysright I was hoping for a safe return for Denise. And the woman who heard her scream, and did the right thing by calling 911, but her call was misfiled!? So heartbreaking 💔

    • @jiveturkey365
      @jiveturkey365 2 дні тому +2

      She should have listened to her husband when he told her to at least close the blinds while walking around the house half naked. I'm not saying it's her fault but she could have helped PREVENT it...

  • @tashibrissot8966
    @tashibrissot8966 2 дні тому +849

    If he felt comfortable enough to bring someone he kidnapped around his family that means this isn’t something new, if I were investigators I’d be looking at unsolved crimes in the last 15 years..

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 дні тому +16

      People are evil

    • @jonv1977
      @jonv1977 День тому +16

      And the family 😢

    • @jillybean9563
      @jillybean9563 День тому +15

      @@tashibrissot8966 He definitely had past behavior that was just kinda ignored and never brought to police attention. He exposed himself in a parking lot to a woman in her car, he brought a 15 year old to a hair salon for a haircut who he said he met online and began making out with her in front of the staff, and he also pretty much raped a woman. He invited a woman over and plowed her with alcohol (he did not drink) and when she woke up he was having sex with her. There were definitely warning signs. But, I personally don't think he intended to bring Denise around his family, I think he was desperate because he had already kidnapped and brutally assaulted her, and he needed those items to finish what he started. I believe he had NO intentions of his cousin seeing Denise, he walked up to his house alone, got the items and said his lawn mower broke down, and when he was walking back to his vehicle w/ the items, thats when the cousin saw Denise. Michael kept pushing her head down in the back, and sped off and said "everything is fine" right when his cousin questioned Wtf is going on. I'm just saying I don't think that Michael really was comfortable taking her to his cousin's, he just had no other choice, and he tried to hide her. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if he has more crimes under his belt.

    • @hurricanekitty6736
      @hurricanekitty6736 12 годин тому +2

      I dunno, he’s sloppy AF. He definitely isn’t smart enough to get away with multiple murders…not on his own at least…

  • @cherrybombliz
    @cherrybombliz 2 дні тому +541

    This pisses me off so much. Every single person in his family that was involved with keeping this covered up should have gotten prison too. Just as guilty as he is.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 дні тому +17

      People used to get arrested for obstruction of justice

    • @auzieblo
      @auzieblo День тому +21

      Not Harold's daughter.

    • @Brandoncye
      @Brandoncye 12 годин тому +5

      Right! What happened to getting charged with withholding information, or getting charged for being an accomplish? 😢😢😢😢😢

  • @GrymSyns
    @GrymSyns 2 дні тому +447

    This is a stark reminder that you can do everything right, and still end up fucked because of other peoples incompetence and apathy.

    • @VaughanMcCue
      @VaughanMcCue 22 години тому +2

      I am like the rest of us on this page when we criticise the police. We are perfect, like Disney happy-ending movies; none of us have ever made a big mistake.
      One thing we know for sure is that God was too busy finding lost car keys to help in this situation.

    • @kimwilliamsii2122
      @kimwilliamsii2122 21 годину тому +1

      In incompetence cases like this i really despise humanity

    • @VaughanMcCue
      @VaughanMcCue 19 годин тому

      @@kimwilliamsii2122
      Fortunately, there are two of us who are perfect.
      Everyone else should dispose of their mirrors.

    • @XxHarmony63Xx
      @XxHarmony63Xx 9 годин тому

      I KNOW it's an absolute OUTRAGE! If that was my daughter...
      Well... I bet most people have the same thoughts.

    • @sweydert
      @sweydert 3 години тому

      ​@VaughanMcCue Thanks troll.

  • @ashlielangeland8779
    @ashlielangeland8779 3 дні тому +4069

    Imagine beating on the windows and screaming for help and someone actually SEEING you but the cops never end up responding to it. That was completely tragic.

    • @shyris466
      @shyris466 2 дні тому +252

      That was my immediate thought, too. This poor woman was fighting so hard, and it all just slipped away. I also can't imagine being the woman who called, and tried to follow him and help. Hearing that kind of scream really is blood chilling. And to have the image of her pounding on the window, and screaming that hellish scream, and knowing what happened to her? That'll break someone too.

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 2 дні тому +120

      Absolutely crazy. They just let the guy drive off to commit murder for 2 and a 1/2 hours.

    • @Amor-lz5sb
      @Amor-lz5sb 2 дні тому +57

      Never wait for cops .At the end they all suck.

    • @misskarenvasquez
      @misskarenvasquez 2 дні тому +81

      @@Amor-lz5sbit wasn’t the cops that dropped the ball, it was 911 dispatchers. The cops did everything they could with the information they had as fast as they could aside from the responding officers, they should be retrained or find a new career.

    • @dawnjones6138
      @dawnjones6138 2 дні тому +56

      That is my exact thought! The 911 operators failed her 😢

  • @otomesavesus6779
    @otomesavesus6779 3 дні тому +2427

    this case hurts me so bad because she was so smart in how she handled the phone call, and that people were so close to saving her and just barely missed her... Her dad raised an extremely intelligent young woman. Her saying she just wants to go back home and see her babies.... it kills me... I cry over this case every time...

    • @watsonspuzzle
      @watsonspuzzle 2 дні тому +51

      I couldn't even watch this once I realized who she was. She tried so hard. If things had gone her way just a little bit, she would have made it out. Just heartbreaking.

    • @Reddzion
      @Reddzion 2 дні тому +44

      @@TATTDIS humans having empathy and emotional reactions to others is normal, not a delusional state. Otherwise, by what you say, anyone that cried over 9/11 is "delusional".

    • @SaintShion
      @SaintShion 2 дні тому

      @@TATTDIS doesn’t ask stupid questions. We get it you’re so fucking edgy.

    • @oi2715
      @oi2715 2 дні тому +3

      @@TATTDISsociopath

    • @christinaoh7022
      @christinaoh7022 2 дні тому +13

      After watching another documentary on this case several years ago, I’ve avoided watching any others until now, too hard. Just couldn’t bear to listen to her again, knowing what happened.😢 RIP Denise❤

  • @Steezy93
    @Steezy93 3 дні тому +5199

    the family that let their cousin rekidnap the girl, borrow a shovel and gas tank should have got life in prison too.........

    • @jennifermaddy2442
      @jennifermaddy2442 3 дні тому +456

      Yes they could of saved her in that moment.His cousin knew & saw what was going on

    • @Lore-hz8wz
      @Lore-hz8wz 3 дні тому +129

      100%

    • @Lore-hz8wz
      @Lore-hz8wz 3 дні тому +409

      The fact that only the daughter called first is upsetting

    • @socialbutterfly4146
      @socialbutterfly4146 3 дні тому +248

      I live in the town this happened. I remember it like it was yesterday!
      So heartbreaking! There were so many opportunities for this poor woman to be saved. She should have been saved!
      This was a complete evil monster!

    • @astarte66
      @astarte66 3 дні тому

      @@socialbutterfly4146I bet he would have done it again if they hadn’t caught him.

  • @carris2scents57
    @carris2scents57 2 дні тому +254

    Who the hell gives a man a shovel gas can and flashlight to someone with a girl tied up in their car?!?! 😮

    • @JimMilton-ej6zi
      @JimMilton-ej6zi 19 годин тому +6

      Probably someone who is in fear for their life and thinks them or their family will be next if they don't cooperate.
      He made a police report, he's clearly someone who didn't want to do anything but likely felt like he had no choice in it because he doesn't want his daughter to be hurt.

    • @eh1702
      @eh1702 17 годин тому

      @@JimMilton-ej6zi The cousin only made a police report his daughter called 911 and the police found HIM. If he was so scared, he could have called police AS SOON AS King left, to give them King’s name, description, car description & plate, phone number and home address.
      The cops should have rung the phone after the daughter called and warned King the game was up, and if she was still alive it would be better for him.

    • @Beatrizzzle
      @Beatrizzzle 13 годин тому +9

      Someone who is just as sketchy as the kidnapper. I bet the only reason anything was done was because of his daughter

  • @kellycuckoo3143
    @kellycuckoo3143 2 дні тому +106

    I would like to personally thank the young lady who called to report her dad’s cousin. You’re my hero. May God bless you all the days of your life❣️

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox 13 годин тому +14

      She also needs to live with the fact that her own father is a giant POS. I feel for her. It's a lot.

  • @brandymendoza1390
    @brandymendoza1390 2 дні тому +803

    Charge the cousin for accessory. He knew something was up and didn’t stop him. Then he wanted to “stay out of it”. Lock him up to.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 дні тому +16

      Agreed what a little weasel

    • @drjonesey5
      @drjonesey5 День тому +12

      Agreed. Cowardice needs to start being a criminal offense. If you see something, you say something, doesn't matter if it's family or not. You don't have to risk your life or chase the guy down (some good Samaritan's have actually done this and helped) but like come on, you see he had a bound up woman you don't know and you just "stay out of it" Hell no. I don't care who it is, I'm calling police and I'll fight you if I have to to stop you. I don't even like local corruption either. I have no issue fighting my partner if I was a cop and he did something wrong. I don't understand how people cower like this, unless they're just bad people too, it makes sense.

    • @xoansuarezdorio8127
      @xoansuarezdorio8127 День тому +7

      I definitely agreed with that. Actually, that's a crime, according to the law. The denial of assistance to a person in danger is a crime. And not only that: he was also a direct witness to a kidnapping and clearly stated that he wanted to "stay out of it". Well, "stay out of it", when "it" is someone witnessing a kidnapping, with the tragic result of the victim being murdered (I convey all my sorrow to her father, her husband and her children. There are no words that I could say to console after something like this), that is punishable by imprisonment. And he gave him the shovel to bury the poor girl, so...

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j День тому

      ​@@drjonesey5 cowardice used to be a criminal offence. Now it's only still recognised in countries with Sharia

    • @joy-115
      @joy-115 День тому +1

      Yes!!!!

  • @gloriaalcaraz6694
    @gloriaalcaraz6694 3 дні тому +2935

    The cousin decided to be a coward rather than a hero. COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.

    • @Sh3r-Bear
      @Sh3r-Bear 2 дні тому +97

      No reason to lie! None, unless he’s more involved, protecting this POS or ignored a bound woman screaming to be saved. Pathetic excuse of a human! 🤥🤥🤥

    • @Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll
      @Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll 2 дні тому +159

      He's an accomplice to murder. Should be in jail, too.

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 2 дні тому +86

      Worse than a coward -- he was complicit, really.

    • @jonibright
      @jonibright 2 дні тому +59

      Yep, he failed her miserably, i believe some of this falls on him too. He could've saved her, right then and there.😡

    • @mariastewart9820
      @mariastewart9820 2 дні тому +11

      But at the same time,that man was probably was SCARED for his daughter ! If dude was that bold to bring a kidnapped woman to a relatives house,he is capable of anything !

  • @Hphrtlss
    @Hphrtlss 3 дні тому +1511

    Im a former 911 dispatcher and they totally dropped the ball in many ways. I can say after this case numerous states did retraining so that it wouldn't happen in the states we worked in Hopefully at least. I cringe every time I hear the dispatcher with Denise and all she keeps repeating is hello. We are trained (at least where I'm from) to pick up on open lines and asking simple questions. Yes and Nos and she failed from the start. And she should have pinged the phone. This is such a tragic case that if people did their jobs maybe just maybe she would have survived. 😢

    • @catserver8577
      @catserver8577 3 дні тому +30

      If she would have asked yes or no questions, the guy would have known she was on the phone with 9 1 1. I don't think someone tied up in the back seat saying "yes" or "no" for no reason would be useful. I really think the operator did the best she could. I am thinking the responding officers did not move quickly enough. The operator seemed to catch on pretty quick.

    • @val4382
      @val4382 2 дні тому +235

      @@catserver8577 The dispatcher was not doing her job well.... She literally asked to turn down the radio .She failed to send help and She was also suspended because of her behavior.

    • @toidIllorTAmI
      @toidIllorTAmI 2 дні тому +80

      I completely agree. It was almost as bad as that one dispatcher who laughed and hung up on someone calling over and over thinking it was a prank.

    • @Hphrtlss
      @Hphrtlss 2 дні тому +95

      @catserver8577 we are trained to ask questions that don't just require yes or no answers but in some of that call the Dispatcher clearly could have gotten some in. She also asked her for her first and last name. That gave the perp a clue she had his phone. What sealed the deal imo was when she asked for her address. Those arent simple easy questions. I know I'm saying this in the aftermath of the situation but trust me I've been through calls one in particular that sticks out with this situation is hear the gun go off that killed my caller. The guy had no clue she was on the phone with me he just was there to do the thing and she gave me the answers I needed in the simplest of ways with the question's I asked. We can't save everyone but that Dispatcher should have tried harder. I'm sorry for my opinion but hell 18 yrs on the job where I live. I've been heard alot and my health has gone to shit because of the stress.

    • @dianenaddaff9879
      @dianenaddaff9879 2 дні тому +45

      I agree I was so frustrated hearing that 911 woman being a dunce. Clearly there was distress from that call and anyone listening! I even said to my husband this 911 person is a dunce. I blame her for a lot

  • @arrancarsoulcaptain
    @arrancarsoulcaptain День тому +94

    the dad "wanted to be anonymous" but literally gave the cousin tools to help in his crimes.
    I can't believe so many ppl failed this woman. how can ppl be so evil.
    I'm usually not too affected by true crime stuff, but this was a hard listen. she did everything right 💔

  • @maddy.doesart
    @maddy.doesart День тому +41

    21 years old. Starting a family. I just turned 20 yesterday; this is so jarring to listen to… absolutely heartbreaking. So close yet so far, rest in peace sweet girl

  • @abiechartier4464
    @abiechartier4464 3 дні тому +1521

    Harold needs to be charged with withholding information and basically going along with this, no body in their right mind just gives someone the tools for murder and thinks nothing of it

    • @shimmer8289
      @shimmer8289 2 дні тому +65

      A huge obstructing justice charge on Michael and Mike's buddy. They are imo not much different from him. Why they weren't charged and thrown in jail baffles me. Harold was accomplice to murder fave shovel, and the other tools what the heck did he think he was gonna do with a tied up women bring her out to dinner?

    • @pleasestopurcrap
      @pleasestopurcrap 2 дні тому

      He most definitely deserves prison

    • @annettejones7777
      @annettejones7777 2 дні тому +28

      Whatever happened to guilty by association? If you see something, say something.

    • @shimmer8289
      @shimmer8289 2 дні тому +45

      @annettejones7777 he was actually an accessory in my mind what did buddy think he was gonna do with a shovel and stuff?

    • @nsahandler
      @nsahandler 2 дні тому +2

      ​@@shimmer8289 all of the stuff he asked for was appropriate for making a garbage fire or something similar

  • @biancaemily139
    @biancaemily139 2 дні тому +695

    nathans reaction to denise's ring completely broke me

    • @misterdinkly
      @misterdinkly 2 дні тому +61

      Poor guy. He and his father in law tried so hard to find her. Even tell thebdetectives about how incompetent the responding police were and that they should be moving quicker. So sad.

    • @PupcakesDogCare
      @PupcakesDogCare 2 дні тому +9

      Same, thats when i finally lost it

    • @Mohjoe62
      @Mohjoe62 2 дні тому +6

      So sad

    • @Sara.Rose.
      @Sara.Rose. 2 дні тому +6

      Me too, just couldn’t stop my tears

    • @biancaemily139
      @biancaemily139 2 дні тому +13

      @@misterdinkly i hoped that since it was another law enforcement officer's daughter that those officers wouldve kicked the search into overdrive but they didnt even flinch :/ she would be alive rn if she went missing in her fathers jurisdiction 💔

  • @ArJayDM
    @ArJayDM 2 дні тому +180

    22:05 she did everything so smart. She clearly left it there, knowing her husband would immediately recognize it. Crazy that she did everything so clever and still lost

  • @HailHydreigon
    @HailHydreigon День тому +80

    This was absolutely heartbreaking. Very heroic of Jane and Sabrina to reach out to 911 with as much information as possible. R.I.P. Denise.

  • @johnhutsler8122
    @johnhutsler8122 День тому +53

    Bro, if my own brother, dad, uncle, best friend, etc. showed up with a girl tied up and asked for a shovel, I would immediately hold them at gunpoint and call the cops. How tf did the cousin not get charged with something? He could've stopped the whole thing.

  • @miaevans8725
    @miaevans8725 2 дні тому +332

    THIS DISPATCHER THOUGH?? STOP SAYING HELLO WOMAN AND LISTEN LISTEN!! I’m so livid right now.. the dispatcher can plainly hear this woman begging for her life JESUS!! Rip Denise

    • @chilldudie242
      @chilldudie242 2 дні тому +21

      She don't care she black homie
      She there for the check and that's it

    • @dinabaughman8731
      @dinabaughman8731 2 дні тому

      🙄

    • @dinabaughman8731
      @dinabaughman8731 2 дні тому

      You should become a dispatcher.👍

    • @chilldudie242
      @chilldudie242 2 дні тому +2

      @dinabaughman8731 stop spamming girl is this you in the video??

    • @chilldudie242
      @chilldudie242 2 дні тому +2

      @dinabaughman8731 are you the dispatcher from the video??

  • @ShannonT78
    @ShannonT78 3 дні тому +548

    I remember seeing this story on several shows like Dateline, 48 Hours, etc. If his cousin Harold had called the minute he left his house instead of waiting hours before calling his daughter and then continuing to lie to police I have no doubt that they would’ve found her alive. What a tragedy 😢

    • @bornfree0507
      @bornfree0507 2 дні тому +39

      He should be in prison too!

    • @tallblonde1976
      @tallblonde1976 2 дні тому +21

      I’m sure a lot of people gave him a hard time for being a big cowardly idiot, but yes he should be in jail for facilitating kidnapping and murder.

    • @UBrickIFix
      @UBrickIFix 2 дні тому +16

      He should've delayed him and called while he was there.

    • @ellybean5868
      @ellybean5868 2 дні тому +2

      He is a coward and I hope he feels bad that he could have done something as simple as picking up the phone and calling 911 as soon as he left, but someone who doesn't have the decency to do it, I doubt he even feels bad

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 дні тому +1

      @@ellybean5868he doesn’t feel anything give me a break

  • @burlykim132
    @burlykim132 2 дні тому +576

    Idc that Harold, the cousin didn’t call 911. I care that he didn’t intervene. I care that he gave his cousin all the tools he did, to hide the woman he saw fighting off his cousin, after she was murdered. I care that his daughter showed more integrity, courage, and morality than her father. Harold is not just a coward. Harold is not just a POS. Harold is a cowardly ass POS. Harold should also be in jail. What an absolute pathetic excuse for men these three are. I don’t think saying “the only man responsible for Denise’s death” is an accurate statement in regards to this case. Harold is also responsible.

    • @JessieB980
      @JessieB980 2 дні тому

      The lazy legal system only started with police response to the initial crime. There was ample evidence for Harold to be charged as an accessory to murder, and the fact that he never was tells me he was a good ol' boy in a small town. Not even gonna look it up, I guarantee that town's population is less than two thousand.

    • @hungirl69cz23
      @hungirl69cz23 2 дні тому

      What do you mean you care?

    • @Dotfye
      @Dotfye 2 дні тому +1

      Harold is also responsible for making his daughter call and giving key information.
      By your logic harold shouldnt even have called because you arent happy until he fights the psychopath and gets stabbed

    • @shut7353
      @shut7353 2 дні тому +27

      @@Dotfye He didn't need to fight him off. But he saw a KIDNAPPED WOMAN in his cousins car and gave him A SHOVEL AND A GAS CANISTER. That says enough. Even if he didn't intervene, even if he didn't want to call himself, he should of called his daughter right away. Because you know, seeing a kidnapped woman is extremely urgent. If he had called her right away it would of given the police a much bigger headstart on the chase. He knew his cousin was going to kill that woman and he waited.

    • @Dotfye
      @Dotfye 2 дні тому +1

      @ He did call right away? They mention that he made his daughter call before they could even trace the call sabrina made when she just got kidnapped??

  • @SPiRAh
    @SPiRAh 2 дні тому +37

    Suspended for 60 hours?! WTF IS THAT?! The lady following them could have been the key to saving Denise & they misfiled the call?! INFURIATING!!!
    I pray Denise’s family can find peace & healing.

  • @TheEightfoldPath_
    @TheEightfoldPath_ 2 дні тому +57

    That cousin should have been charged with aiding. I mean, how on earth do you not do anything to stop that?? So many red flags, yet he is as obtuse and noncooperative as you can get.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 дні тому +3

      Yea I agree ☝️ ur justice system has turned into a joke

    • @tigergumby
      @tigergumby День тому

      He's a chickensh** a-hole. Didn't want to get involved when it came to the police part, but sure didn't hesitate to give body disposal items to someone who had a screaming tied up woman in their car.

  • @GSP-76
    @GSP-76 3 дні тому +1036

    Harold is just as much a POS as Michael. He knew exactly what was going on and did nothing. He even gave him the shovel. He should be in prison for life with Michael.

    • @outdoorloser4340
      @outdoorloser4340 2 дні тому +37

      Agreed! I can't fathom being that much of a coward!

    • @neilsun2521
      @neilsun2521 2 дні тому +38

      Harold the ultimate weak man. Epitome of loserville in that family.

    • @cyn37211
      @cyn37211 2 дні тому +21

      Yeah, they’re both stellar characters. You can tell they’re related

    • @jaiyiddah
      @jaiyiddah 2 дні тому +1

      The entire family is trash

    • @ajnathan9490
      @ajnathan9490 2 дні тому +18

      A shovel AND gas container ... Like he didnt know that, if he let his cousin leave, that girl was dead ...!! HE could've stopped her murder right there. He let a wife/Mother/daughter DIE so that his cousin wouldn't have beef w him!! COWARD

  • @brentgambrell
    @brentgambrell 2 дні тому +798

    “Can you cut the radio off or down?” WOW! Our first responders failed that lady and her family. RIP.

    • @shikamaru281281
      @shikamaru281281 2 дні тому +30

      That's a pretty reasonable question. Not knowing exactly what's happening, maybe they could have turned it down? It's easy for a fatass who already knows the outcome to make judgment calls. lol

    • @Berrylide
      @Berrylide 2 дні тому +13

      ​@@shikamaru281281​​ omg your life must be so sad I can't believe you pasted that same reply under every single comment that raised this VERY valid point.
      It's funny you're both so rude yet starved for attention.

    • @turnovertheleaf5505
      @turnovertheleaf5505 2 дні тому +80

      ​@shikamaru281281
      I HOPE you are not a 911 operator!! Your response is IQ'd negative.

    • @leejtam0914
      @leejtam0914 2 дні тому +40

      @@shikamaru281281 its not a reasonable question for someone who is panicking like her

    • @JessieB980
      @JessieB980 2 дні тому +21

      The failures in this case were grotesque, but I don't think the operator committed any of them. That was a very confusing call to receive, and I think both she and Denise did the best they could to communicate within the context they had. That's not even saying the operator did "all the right things," I just don't think she had the tools or information to know what the right things were. It doesn't say if they pinged the phone, and if she didn't she certainly should have. But other than that, I think she did her best.

  • @xXebonyXroseXx
    @xXebonyXroseXx 2 дні тому +204

    The second I heard that he wanted to borrow a shovel from his cousin my heart sank. That poor woman and her family.

  • @Ariesgal
    @Ariesgal День тому +17

    "Whats your home address" what the hell is that going to help with. She told you her name. Those moments on the phone were CRITICAL. That dispatcher blew it.😢. And the cousin needs to be charged as well. Youd have to drag me to hell to keep me from letting my cousin leave with a woman tied up. Omg 😢

  • @dazzlingextremes389
    @dazzlingextremes389 День тому +14

    It hurt me to hear this again... many years ago I heard this YEARS ago and never have forgotten it. The whole time I just want to wish they catch him even though I know they don't. IT hurts my feelings so much for this mother and her family. This poor girl did everything right and tried so hard to help herself. Makes me cry. She's been gone so long now.

  • @yvonneedwards9407
    @yvonneedwards9407 3 дні тому +502

    That 13year old was smart and her mom trusted her child’s instincts!

  • @phe.mp3
    @phe.mp3 3 дні тому +628

    That dispatcher’s mistake is horrifying. I have empathy for them and how high stress it is, but wow. That was the difference between life and death.

    • @Beautiful_Mess
      @Beautiful_Mess 2 дні тому +29

      Our lives as law enforcement are in their hands as well as the public’s lives. They need no degree, nothing more than a high school diploma.

    • @user-nf7ui7dz1z
      @user-nf7ui7dz1z 2 дні тому +8

      They should be required to have a brain at the minimum though.

    • @Spacecowboy1997
      @Spacecowboy1997 2 дні тому +12

      people make mistakes, even with a degree.

    • @HollyWatson99
      @HollyWatson99 2 дні тому +10

      @@Beautiful_Mess neither do law enforcement

    • @chilldudie242
      @chilldudie242 2 дні тому

      Sounds like your empathy has been weaponized against you and used by abusers.

  • @marilynsmith365
    @marilynsmith365 3 дні тому +401

    Denise, you did your very best for you and your babies! Rest in peace. 😢😢

  • @bawling4soup
    @bawling4soup День тому +12

    that useless bastard that let him leave with her should be beyond ashamed of himself. charged actually

  • @Crispy_Lint
    @Crispy_Lint День тому +6

    It's mind-blowing listening to you talk about a case in a city where I've lived practically my whole life...

  • @maadNotorious
    @maadNotorious 2 дні тому +207

    Can you turn the radio down? Why certainly, I a kidnapped women, will tell my captor please turn the radio down while I talk to police on the phone u r looking for.....the most maddening and disheartening call for help u can ever hear made worse by this idiot dispatcher.

    • @ajnathan9490
      @ajnathan9490 2 дні тому +14

      Shoulda pinged that phone ASA she realised what was happening. Coulda got phone owners ID, got his vehicle records and had units swarm the area of the phone pings, w/in minutes, at a time when every minute counted ...!!

    • @ckee8437
      @ckee8437 2 дні тому +6

      And as ridiculous as it was she actually tried to get him to turn it down, I think that tipped him off too as it was a little suspicious 😢

  • @BooTart
    @BooTart 2 дні тому +99

    I’m heartbroken. I was holding out hope till the very end that things weren’t going to end this way. Denise, you were a fighter, an inpiration to keep fighting, rest easy.

  • @JimboBillyBob
    @JimboBillyBob 3 дні тому +802

    Do you legally have to be stupid to become a 911 operator? Also how does the guys cousin not get charged in all of this? He lends a flashlight, shovel, gasoline and knows that the guy has a woman tied up in his car and he gives it all to him and doesn't do anything to stop it until afterwards? If this cousin called the cops instead of being a coward and calling his daughter to get her to call, he may have saved a womans life.I bet Harold feels like he did the right thing but he should know that he is a piece of shit and only slightly less culpable to that woman's death than the actual murderer. Such criminal trash in that family, thank god for the daughter, she seems to have a moral compass.

    • @Sh3r-Bear
      @Sh3r-Bear 3 дні тому +29

      Absolutely well said!😢

    • @Mathewson1G
      @Mathewson1G 3 дні тому +50

      I think you do have to be dumb, get angry and ask stupid questions. I don't believe 911 operators can't ping your phone in 3 clicks or less

    • @yvonneedwards9407
      @yvonneedwards9407 3 дні тому +17

      Obstruction of justice at least!!

    • @itwaslegendari
      @itwaslegendari 3 дні тому +5

      forrealll

    • @ThisIsSparta300
      @ThisIsSparta300 2 дні тому

      Pings dont even tell you anything except which tower. Why doesnt big brother provide that kind of fucking info since they actually have it...​ its dumb as fuck@@Mathewson1G

  • @ericfrandsen1973
    @ericfrandsen1973 День тому +11

    The cousin should be thrown in jail too. What a moral coward.

  • @peacelove7706
    @peacelove7706 День тому +10

    I’m a dispatcher of over 2 decades, have police in both sides of my family, grew up with cops, lived with a Marine who then became a cop….THIS POLICE DEPT ALLOWED THAT WOMAN TO BE KILLED….THE POLICE ARE EQUALLY TO BLAME….oh it’s not time to talk to neighbors or look past their noses…. I’ve been on the radio as they’ve searched for a kidnapped person on SEVERAL occasions…SECONDS matter…they were lazy,and also thought,oh a very young mother….she ran off to go do drugs….HOPE THOSE COPS DIRECTLY INVOLED NEVER HAVE ANOTHER GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP EVER AGAIN…. That being said, the COWARD COUSIN COULD’VE SAVED HER….He should be CHARGED with COWARDICE bc HE is COMPLICIT!!! Smh if I was the husband and father I would SUE THAT POLICE DEPT….and the DISPATCHERS got 60 day’s suspension??? Omg they should’ve been FIRED IMMEDIATELY! I’ve seen coworkers get fired for MUCH MUCH LESS with NO DEATHS ! Just Despicable LACK OF JUDGEMENT AND STUPIDITY all around …Soooo Sad!

  • @DeborahTanton
    @DeborahTanton 3 дні тому +266

    Anyone who lied in the interrogation room should have spent some time in jail!!!!

    • @bkpk4hisapplesauce
      @bkpk4hisapplesauce 5 годин тому +1

      especially if it's a HUGE lie!! and lying by omittion at such a magnitude was so negligent in his duty to be a decent citizen. he NEEDS jail time, even just a few months please SOMETHING like that's not okay and needs to be made an example out of.

  • @NotIfWhen
    @NotIfWhen 3 дні тому +367

    This poor woman did everything she could. My heart breaks for her

    • @TimApple.
      @TimApple. 3 дні тому +1

      Horrible story. Call Mike for short, but not for long. I hope he's living in hell. What a POS!

    • @misterdinkly
      @misterdinkly 2 дні тому +3

      Real sad and vile stuff. Florida remains one of the most messed up places in the country. People are unreliable and untrustworthy. Still to this day.

    • @AmericaPatriot-m8y
      @AmericaPatriot-m8y 2 дні тому

      And everyone who she came in contact with while she fought so hard failed her!

  • @LLKOOLK8
    @LLKOOLK8 3 дні тому +339

    Well that call is fucking heartbreaking, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to get it out of my head, she sounds so scared. RIP Denise, you were very brave, you fought to live and more should have been done to help you 💜

    • @shawnatrent5893
      @shawnatrent5893 2 дні тому +12

      Truly. You see stuff in movies but to hear a real call of a real woman. It's terrifying and heartbreaking. When she says she has a beautiful husband my heart broke. You know she was thinking about their whole life. Any of the bad times out the door. In that extreme moment the truth of who you love and need most. Just so so devastating. Unpopular opinion and i dont care, People that can hurt other people unprovoked, only selfish desire or greed or anything honestly, if they take that life they should be gone too. In most situations it's very easy to discover whether it was on accident or intentional. Accidents and mistakes should be rehabilitate. Outright murder should be death. You don't have to full throttle eye for an eye. I'm not even religous. Someone who steals shouldn't lose a hand, but if you purposely take a life and your own is not in danger sorry you gotta go.

    • @lacyc376
      @lacyc376 2 дні тому +2

      Same I’m having a hard time watching and it hasn’t even been a minute and a half yet

  • @roseweed1468
    @roseweed1468 14 годин тому +5

    How can someone lay their head down and sleep with no regrets after withholding pertinent information about the kidnapping of a young mother?
    EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT LIED OR WITHHELD INFORMATION TO THE POLICE SHOULD BE IN PRISON!!!

  • @alyssamccray4700
    @alyssamccray4700 2 дні тому +8

    I live right down the street from where Denise was taken, this entire case really shook our whole town, and it still breaks my heart to this day. 💔😢

  • @TeamTwiistz
    @TeamTwiistz 2 дні тому +144

    How do you get a call as a 911 operator, where the sole purpose of your employment is to listen and report criminal activity. A frantic 911 call about a potential child abduction comes in (highly abnormal) and then you end the call.... only to FORGOT TO REPORT IT. WTF! She needs prison time for gross negligence.

  • @Aubtoonice17
    @Aubtoonice17 3 дні тому +381

    Some of these dispatchers really blow my mind.. did she ask that lady to tell the kidnapper to turn the radio down?? Like he was gone listen

    • @PunkMozh
      @PunkMozh 3 дні тому +37

      That's what I was saying, she was really bad at this game :( hopefully she got better at it

    • @padtixx5441
      @padtixx5441 3 дні тому +63

      It does annoy me that sometimes these 911 operators sound either bored or annoyed with people calling them

    • @Mathewson1G
      @Mathewson1G 3 дні тому +48

      ​@@padtixx5441 "could you PLEASE not scream so much and so loud, gosh. ungrateful 🙄"

    • @imaginedmountains2311
      @imaginedmountains2311 3 дні тому +8

      To be fair, she probably couldn't quite understand the caller, hence the questionable answers.

    • @shantygauthier8377
      @shantygauthier8377 3 дні тому +26

      i find it actually disgusting to know she will probably keep her job and do it again. Really sad

  • @sunshinesunflowers721
    @sunshinesunflowers721 3 дні тому +174

    I live near where this happened and will NEVER forget this case. Hearing the 911 calls is heartbreaking!

  • @jerryhamer
    @jerryhamer 2 дні тому +10

    This poor girl did everything she could to stay alive. She just wanted to be back with her family. My heart aches for her.

  • @nargaflarga
    @nargaflarga День тому +5

    How does a dispatcher not get fired for this? Even if someone doesn’t answer your questions it’s common practice to start a process to trace the call and see if everyone is okay

  • @spacepandino1304
    @spacepandino1304 3 дні тому +852

    Dispatcher: Hello? Hello? Can you put your kidnapper on the phone so i can tell him to turn down the radio?

    • @D0NU75
      @D0NU75 3 дні тому +110

      another one for the pile of failed cases thanks to a dispatcher

    • @yvonneedwards9407
      @yvonneedwards9407 3 дні тому +46

      She took awhile to get it OMG. I was screaming at her to sk better question s!!

    • @WillButler-pe5rv
      @WillButler-pe5rv 3 дні тому +52

      She frustrated me so much. As soon as he turned down the radio he heard them.

    • @uniquely__awkwardsimply__b2701
      @uniquely__awkwardsimply__b2701 3 дні тому +31

      I’m sorry but your comment caught me off guard 😂😂😂 ! It’s like these dispatchers are so clueless it’s almost comical

    • @emilyquinn4901
      @emilyquinn4901 2 дні тому +18

      And also constantly asking questions expecting a reply of course she’s going to get caught out being on the phone. My heart breaks for this woman. She deserved better

  • @MazzieMay
    @MazzieMay 3 дні тому +188

    Jesus. You can do everything right and it doesn’t matter. Denise put on a clinic of self-preservation and quick thinking, and her family’s consolation prize is her Herculean effort unrewarded

    • @AmbuBadger
      @AmbuBadger 2 дні тому +25

      Just like that teenage kid who got trapped in his mom's minivan when the back seat folded down on him, he used Siri to call 911 and gave his location and vehicle description, and the ball still got dropped. Same for the woman who crashed in a river and was drowning.

    • @notthesame8991
      @notthesame8991 2 дні тому +5

      Yes! And yes! ​@@AmbuBadger
      Exactly what I thought of

    • @exoticalBecky_Miami
      @exoticalBecky_Miami 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@AmbuBadger That is worse than hell as a parent...that case haunts me. It hurts. My kid was learning to drive, had an iPhone :( it hurt so much. Infuriating

    • @chilldudie242
      @chilldudie242 2 дні тому

      ​@@AmbuBadgeruntil narcissism is outlawed, we will be surrounded by proud fools

    • @odlfmariner470
      @odlfmariner470 2 дні тому +1

      ​​@@chilldudie242Shut up about narcissism man. The internet is full of narcissists calling other people narcissists. It's ironic.

  • @loyaltyloyalty4614
    @loyaltyloyalty4614 2 дні тому +272

    That 911 call broke me.. her begging to go home and see her babies.. that broke my heart I’m a mother and I’m sure every Mother cried hearing that call!! R.I.P. beautiful angel 💔😢

  • @ambersykora352
    @ambersykora352 20 годин тому +4

    Robert absolutely took part in it. There was a condom wrapper there on the ground but Micheal didnt use a condom....let that sink in. Mikes gun was never found but thr ammunition was from Robert

  • @co1ossa1chris14
    @co1ossa1chris14 13 годин тому +5

    Why is it that people can sit on D row for years and years and waste tax payers money? If they are 100% guilty bye bye

    • @ijustrealllylikecats
      @ijustrealllylikecats 12 годин тому +1

      I said the same thing, it's ridiculous!

    • @maryskinner1329
      @maryskinner1329 6 годин тому +1

      Yes I also said the same thing. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Need to bring back the old day rules steal my horse I steal your life. Political figures need to stay out of these crimes.

  • @ragnhild2674
    @ragnhild2674 2 дні тому +91

    24:40 Him complaining about being held against his will is infuriating.

  • @kacklina
    @kacklina 2 дні тому +104

    She caught him, and she did all the right things to trace him. It angers me so much she couldn't survive.

  • @newnamewhodis1
    @newnamewhodis1 3 дні тому +173

    I wish the kidnappers cousin and his family wouldn't have let them leave, i bet Denise's heart just dropped when they left out from over there to her demise. 😢

    • @imaginedmountains2311
      @imaginedmountains2311 3 дні тому +1

      Makes a man hesitate to get married doesn't it?

    • @toidIllorTAmI
      @toidIllorTAmI 2 дні тому +23

      ​@imaginedmountains2311 the lack of Men was the problem.

    • @stevnated
      @stevnated 2 дні тому +8

      @@imaginedmountains2311 ? Because you fear your wife would be kidnapped?

    • @odlfmariner470
      @odlfmariner470 2 дні тому +9

      ​@@imaginedmountains2311what does this even mean?😂

    • @mcmaldek
      @mcmaldek 2 дні тому

      ​@@odlfmariner470 it means he will find any excuse or justification for why he cant get a woman. Hes probably "picky" too, "only dates" 5'6½" 112 pound half Japanese half Argentinian, women with blonde hair and blue eyes.

  • @Anabui6462
    @Anabui6462 2 дні тому +6

    I am so sorry that anyone would die like this. Her bravery helped solve this horrendous crime. This type of evil is unexplainable.

    • @zergu-yf3gd
      @zergu-yf3gd 16 годин тому

      look at his eyes, he is a psychopath

  • @Sharonc64
    @Sharonc64 2 дні тому +7

    My heart broke hearing Denise's pleading voice. There is just wayyy to much evil in this world.

  • @blazinbutter6677
    @blazinbutter6677 2 дні тому +171

    The amount of incompetence is so frustrating. The dispatchers, the missed witnesses, the dumbass cousins that saw everything but didnt stop it. The girl was smart as hell and did everything too from banging on the car windows to stealing the phone and calling 911.

    • @misterdinkly
      @misterdinkly 2 дні тому +6

      The woman in the far that witnessed the screaming and kicking at the stop light. She was so concerned but didnt follow the car or at least try once she took the wrong turn. She couldve and should saved a life that night by following. Cowardly and lazy from everyone.

    • @jeannafoxall6519
      @jeannafoxall6519 День тому +1

      Remember the dispatch told her NOT to follow. She repeatedly asked 'Should I follow?' She was advised by 'pros ' not to.

    • @misterdinkly
      @misterdinkly День тому

      @jeannafoxall6519
      Where do you get that bogus info from?
      The driver asked if she should follow. The dispatcher asked her supervision if the driver should follow. After a long wait the supervisor gave the green light to follow and the dispatcher told the driver to follow the car if possible. The driver said they took another road and she wasnt sure if she could get over in time and then catch up.
      What are you actually talking about?
      The driver didnt need to ask for permission in the first place. Any normal person worried enough to call 911 on a screaming kid, is going to do the right thing and follow. Secondly, the supervisor should have made a quicker decision and the driver would have been able to follow once given "permission". The dispatcher and supervisor failed to relay the info to the neighboring county.
      So many people failed.

  • @miguelwilthsire21
    @miguelwilthsire21 2 дні тому +141

    Finally a story were the husband isn’t involved.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 дні тому +4

      FACTS

    • @redda2
      @redda2 День тому

      But another toxic male was

    • @lethalexponent6
      @lethalexponent6 23 години тому

      Sounded like it from his 911 call

    • @Taco_Raider
      @Taco_Raider 23 години тому

      Don't call me doater
      My big toe

    • @scheezy
      @scheezy 22 години тому +2

      @@redda2 He's not a "toxic male" he's a fucking murderer.

  • @meems4378
    @meems4378 3 дні тому +157

    Oh god. I remember this case. The rage I felt for her and her family. It's kept me up at night some nights. She does everything right.

  • @im_jessica_wheres_morty5506
    @im_jessica_wheres_morty5506 18 годин тому +4

    5 calls, 2 one and a half day suspended dispatchers and the only one to change anything is the husband who asked that dispatchers get retrained. 56:15

  • @shiggles6638
    @shiggles6638 15 годин тому +3

    I truly hoped she was going to live. Tragic, heart crushing.

  • @DeborahTanton
    @DeborahTanton 3 дні тому +319

    The failure of the 911 dispatcher to immediately send help is a tragedy!!!

    • @bobbyboombatz1489
      @bobbyboombatz1489 3 дні тому +46

      They are dei hires. I've had a few times dealing with stupidity.

    • @matthewishunting
      @matthewishunting 3 дні тому +30

      Unfortunately dispatchers don't have the ability to track phones like they do in the movies.
      Life isn't the movies. Triangulation a cellphone only gives you an approximate location and if they're traveling, it's very difficult.
      It's not like she had a "send swat team" button to press and just failed to press it.

    • @EaglesQuestions
      @EaglesQuestions 3 дні тому +46

      ​@@bobbyboombatz1489 Cringe, dude.

    • @haileygoofy8454
      @haileygoofy8454 3 дні тому +3

      ​@@bobbyboombatz1489 youre a fool.

    • @cataclysm17
      @cataclysm17 3 дні тому +48

      @@bobbyboombatz1489 This case occurred in 2008, 16 years ago. Do you really think the ‘woke agenda’ was underway in 2008? Just because you think that every instance of perceived incompetence is caused by a “DEI hire”, (a term which certainly isn’t just a stand in for bashing minorities) doesn’t mean your belief is consistent with reality.

  • @AP1977plus2
    @AP1977plus2 3 дні тому +72

    That operator is the most ignorant person I ever heard in my life, Where did common sense go during this call? Clearly the person is distressed, and you as the operator can't put two and two together.

    • @karyne826
      @karyne826 2 дні тому

      Should have be charged too

  • @nobodymatters3294
    @nobodymatters3294 3 дні тому +94

    This one i can't watch, i want to jump in the story and save her.

    • @lengw12
      @lengw12 3 дні тому +11

      Poor momma taken from her children like that, so young... And her poor husband and sons 😢 how sick and twisted does one have to be, I'm livid

    • @imaginedmountains2311
      @imaginedmountains2311 3 дні тому

      Well I'm glad you didn't, her being a murdered and all..

    • @liljes34
      @liljes34 3 дні тому +3

      It’s truly horrible hearing her pray to God and get killed

    • @imaginedmountains2311
      @imaginedmountains2311 3 дні тому

      Please justify your political stance, because I cannot understand where you are coming from.

    • @Gyowei
      @Gyowei 2 дні тому +9

      ​@@imaginedmountains2311 This is not a real person btw

  • @Oceaneyes-eh6vs
    @Oceaneyes-eh6vs 21 годину тому +4

    Listening to her pleading to see her beautiful husband and babies again is heart wrenching. 😩
    The only thing that that monster did that was somewhat human was to put 2 yr.old Adam in the crib with 6 month old Noah, or he allowed Denise to do it,
    or there might have been 2 tragedies that day.

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox 13 годин тому +3

    The cousin has a daughter himself but no empathy for Denise, her family, her children. Disgusting.

  • @otcubaba
    @otcubaba 2 дні тому +64

    36 hour suspension for a fatal mistake.. what a joke

  • @jrrrr838
    @jrrrr838 2 дні тому +62

    “the 911 operator caught on to the dangerous game being played on the other end" yeah after asking hello hello hello hello 7 times for 30 seconds. what a fucking joke

  • @seahawks366
    @seahawks366 3 дні тому +83

    Such a heart breaking story, i really thought the cops were gonna catch him in time. So sad how man people messed up that day!

  • @ijustrealllylikecats
    @ijustrealllylikecats 12 годин тому +3

    After 16 years why is he still sitting on d eath row?? Why do convicts of crimes like this sit in prison for literally decades? The sentence should be carried out within a certain amount of time, it's ridiculous.

    • @ticket2space
      @ticket2space 9 годин тому

      Have to have time for appeals and the possibility for the introduction of new evidence. They used to put people out right away. Turns out they did it to a lot of innocent men and women

  • @eamonnbyrne8400
    @eamonnbyrne8400 18 годин тому +3

    I don't think this was Kings first rodeo.He didn't just wake up that day and plan and commit this sickening crime.Also with the attempted abduction of the 13 Year old girl on her way home from school I would bet he is responiple for unsolved sexu*l crimes within a fifty mile radius of where the POS lived.

  • @poppergurl
    @poppergurl 2 дні тому +39

    I can't believe they missed her by a couple hours this is heartbreaking. She was completely terrified.

  • @smilesfoutch6996
    @smilesfoutch6996 3 дні тому +137

    I love this channel but it hurts me knowing so many evil people exist to keep giving you guys content.

    • @kalnfornia
      @kalnfornia 3 дні тому +5

      I think we would all be shocked as to just how many evil and sick people walk amongst us

    • @outdoorloser4340
      @outdoorloser4340 2 дні тому +3

      Advanced Self Protection is a fantastic YT channel to watch for a few months. I learned a ton and I sleep more soundly at night, and I'm a 6foot+ adult male in a "relatively safe area"(whatever that means).

    • @ElOhEl1001
      @ElOhEl1001 2 дні тому

      @@outdoorloser4340 I also watch ASP! Agreed

    • @smilesfoutch6996
      @smilesfoutch6996 День тому

      @@outdoorloser4340 I have plenty of personal training alongside professional training, so I don't necessarily fear for me nor my families lives due to the training and my location
      But on the other hand I've watched enough of EWU to know it doesn't matter the area you're in, it's the monster that may be living in that area.

    • @smilesfoutch6996
      @smilesfoutch6996 День тому

      @@outdoorloser4340 but also learning even more from professionals doesn't hurt either, I'll definitely check them out.

  • @babshudson2235
    @babshudson2235 2 дні тому +39

    So many times this smart young Woman could have been saved, she Herself gave them so many opportunities. She was failed so many time. RIP Denise.

  • @bangtanshit578
    @bangtanshit578 2 дні тому +6

    "can you turn down the radio down?" LIKE YEAH OF COURSE I CAN ASK MY KIDNAPPER TO TURN IT DOWN SO YOU CAN HEAR ME GETTING KIDNAPPED. Seriously this 911 responder is hands down stupid in handling the situation

    • @Swe-girly
      @Swe-girly 2 дні тому +1

      Yeh, she need some jail time, so the message is...if you do stupid things you got consequences! Hope she read this comment today's.😊

  • @nc737
    @nc737 День тому +3

    I feel like it was obvious after the second sentence that denise was talking to the kidnapper and not the operator. Why was the operator so useless, why would they not be trained to recognise this.
    This is the saddest one of these ive seen. The police were alerted early, the neighbour provided excellent info. The victim fought and provided more info. A stranger reported the position of the car. The killers own family turned him in right away and after all this it still ends too late due in a huge part to the crappy operators on TWO peoples calls.

  • @Vaannahh
    @Vaannahh 3 дні тому +167

    THESS DISPATCHERS ALWAYS PISS ME TF OFF ENTIRELY

    • @saxifrage-q3h
      @saxifrage-q3h 2 дні тому +13

      Me too! I literally can barely stand the STUPID.

    • @Beautiful_Mess
      @Beautiful_Mess 2 дні тому +7

      We had a dispatcher in our EOC that was completely inept. I didn’t know how she got hired, she couldn’t even spell basic words when entering information. I worked on the road, and after a week of her, I had to go to the Sheriff. It was that bad.

    • @Beautiful_Mess
      @Beautiful_Mess 2 дні тому +9

      Dispatchers need no degree, just a high school diploma. They should at least have a communications degree at minimum. They get on the job training, and boom, your life is in their hands. Very scary for law enforcement as well as citizens.

    • @WaynesPokeWorld
      @WaynesPokeWorld 2 дні тому +2

      Same. I guess you don’t need any kind of qualifications to answer a life or death phone call.

    • @stevnated
      @stevnated 2 дні тому

      SAME! I can only assume they get a TON of prank calls all day every day and that's why they always sound so skeptical and jaded.

  • @aviannapenn4421
    @aviannapenn4421 2 дні тому +90

    that 911 operator pissed me off the way she kept saying “hello”

    • @boganshazz821
      @boganshazz821 2 дні тому +20

      It was that, but the asking to get them to turn the radio floored me🤯

    • @wesner326
      @wesner326 2 дні тому +6

      Total incompetence!

    • @shikamaru281281
      @shikamaru281281 2 дні тому +2

      @@boganshazz821 That's a pretty reasonable question. Not knowing exactly what's happening, maybe they could have turned it down? You know, so they could hear? It's easy for a fatass who already knows the outcome to make judgment calls.

    • @boganshazz821
      @boganshazz821 2 дні тому +1

      @shikamaru281281 True, under the exact same circumstances, I'd probably ask the same thing🤦‍♀️
      To add, I had no idea of the outcome when the disdain I felt for such an assinine request was evident

    • @HelloRando
      @HelloRando 2 дні тому

      @@boganshazz821 If you took emergency calls seriously you would say something like "are you in danger right now" Cough once for yes or twice for no etc. Standard stuff if you are an emergency call operator actually expecting an emergency situation of the other end of the line.
      There are far too many of these types of calls, operators not taking them seriously and even mocking callers - and as pointed out. There was no standardised training before this.

  • @redandclassy
    @redandclassy 3 дні тому +46

    So did he really just so happen to see her cutting hair on her back porch. Thats so scary omg

  • @nonyabiznez38
    @nonyabiznez38 2 дні тому +5

    RIP Denise. This is one of those stories that will stick with me forever

  • @Nana-jy8pc
    @Nana-jy8pc День тому +4

    They need to make more requirements to become a 911 dispatcher. There are far too many cases of dispatchers making life threatening mistakes or just being insensitive and stupid while talking to people currently in danger. Like that one case where the woman was put in a barrel by her husband and managed to call 911, the dispatcher thought it was a prank call and accused her of faking instead of immediately taking it seriously. The woman could barley breath and was going in and out of consciousness and the dispatch literally asked “so are you gonna talk to me or just breathe loudly into the phone”

  • @logos9869
    @logos9869 3 дні тому +84

    Wow! Denise was so smart and courageous playing the kidnappers like that

  • @yourdad1367
    @yourdad1367 2 дні тому +56

    I’m a CJS major and I’ve watched tons and tons of these types of videos, but for whatever reason, this one… this one seriously disturbed me.

    • @ad6417
      @ad6417 2 дні тому +6

      It probably disturbs you because you know that victim did everything she could to get out alive. All the people that are trained to get her out alive failed. And of course the witnesses were useless. It almost makes you wanna give up on humanity.

    • @floflo8164
      @floflo8164 2 дні тому +1

      i can say the same. i hold all the crime cases i watch in high regard with utmost compassion for those affected, but this particular case is so devasting, it physically hurts in my chest

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 2 дні тому +1

      There were multiple opportunities for a good outcome that weren't taken. She did everything possible to get help and didn't get it. When bad things happen to good people through no fault of their own it's a reminder we don't have as much control over life as we'd like to believe.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 дні тому +2

      Cuz she had so many chances to be saved

  • @argonaut_jay
    @argonaut_jay 3 дні тому +32

    So disgusting that this womans call could have saved the woman but they fumbled the call and Denise didn't make it. So sick.

  • @samby08
    @samby08 21 годину тому +3

    Those police officers who did not respond to Jane's 911 call, who saw Denice banging on the car window, should be FIRED!!! Instead they only got few hours / days suspensions?! WTF! Denice could be alive right now if they responded immediately.

  • @GGG-ny8ez
    @GGG-ny8ez 2 дні тому +4

    Gosh that dispatcher was horrible. Immediately she should have asked yes or no questions “ are you driving? are you in his house? “. Also they can’t check who a phone belongs to and send APP out on that person???

  • @Oh.its.multiple
    @Oh.its.multiple 2 дні тому +34

    My heart shatters for the horror that Denise went through and the nightmare that her husband, her babies, her parents & family had to endure.
    Denise was SO smart and bold with how she called 911, gave as much info as possible whilst trying to lay low simultaneously to avoid suspicion. But to then hear how the 911 operators failed?? I'm seething!! Hearing her cry and beg for her babies and hubby.. gut wrenching 😭
    To add on top of that: Everyone who's seen that *something* sketchy was going on should've intervened right then and there. I hold that father of the 13 yo girl & the cousin(?) responsible for that. They're basically an accomplice to an active kidnapping and the murder that shortly after followed.
    That 13 yo girl & Jane were the real witness heroes who called 911 regardless, was upfront about everything they'd seen, girl even confronted her dad to get the name of that monster, described the car perfectly AND relayed exactly how she witnessed the scene with a heavily distressed person in that car.
    Everyone, except that heroic kid, the witness Jane and Denise's family, deserve charges for failure to act and being an accomplice.
    Like FFS - even if you hate the cops and are scared of them charging you for not storing your guns properly or an outstanding warrant, THERE IS A LIFE ON THE LINE. Your marijuana possession falls on flat ears and gets lots of leniency when you help intervene with an active kidnapping and murder!
    No matter what, whether you know the person or not, that distressed individual is someones child, loved one, spouse, parent, sibling & beloved friend. All it takes is a LITTLE BIT of empathy to take action and do the right f-cking thing!!! 🤬
    May Denise rest in everlasting peace and one day be reunited with her beloved babies, hubby & family again. If there's a god, I hope they take good care of her in the afterlife and douse her in love.
    My heart goes out to her wonderful hubby, babies and family
    ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹🕊️✨

    • @Unknown-ov2kz
      @Unknown-ov2kz День тому +1

      I'm pretty sure the 13-year-old girl was not the daughter. The daughter was another person (of unknown age) that called the cops. The 13-year-old girl was someone who was walking home from school and was being followed by Michael.

  • @Just_Smile-n2w
    @Just_Smile-n2w 3 дні тому +69

    Every woman’s worst nightmare. RIP Denise ❤ 🙏🏻

    • @MidnightSonnet
      @MidnightSonnet 2 дні тому +1

      This would be anyone's worst nightmare

    • @chilldudie242
      @chilldudie242 2 дні тому

      What does this have to do with gender?? Are you implying that men desire to be kidnapped?? So weird.

    • @Youremom3535
      @Youremom3535 2 дні тому +12

      ​@@chilldudie242because women and children are more likely. There are several cases where women are kidnapped and kept for years being tortured. They are often seen as easier targets

    • @venusbian
      @venusbian 2 дні тому +9

      ​​@@chilldudie242the internet is the only place where well articulated sentences still get
      misinterpreted. you can say "I like pancakes" and somebody will say "So you hate waffles?" no dummy. that's a whole new sentence. wtf are you talking about

    • @Just_Smile-n2w
      @Just_Smile-n2w 2 дні тому +3

      @@chilldudie242 Interesting that YOU made this about gender. But, one woman kidnapping one man, tying him up and assaulting him before unaliving him? 🤔

  • @tle8328
    @tle8328 3 дні тому +129

    2 in 1 day...🎉
    You guys rock!
    Love this channel ❤️

    • @Sh3r-Bear
      @Sh3r-Bear 3 дні тому +5

      I was coming down to the comments to say just that! Thanks!😊

    • @Ligmaarse
      @Ligmaarse 2 дні тому +5

      It’s crazy we love it at someone else’s expense it’s fucked up

    • @ClientsMusic
      @ClientsMusic 2 дні тому

      @@Ligmaarse Yep. You people are sick in the head. I hope you get some therapy.

    • @zergu-yf3gd
      @zergu-yf3gd 16 годин тому

      @@ClientsMusic there's nothing sick about it dude, it's just reality news. if you prefer to not know what's going on then just go away

  • @ShakerMaker1980
    @ShakerMaker1980 12 годин тому +3

    *Sanpaku eyes* - never fails. Look up sanpaku eyes & if you ever meet someone with them - RUN! Poor girl was so brave 😢😢😢

    • @ijustrealllylikecats
      @ijustrealllylikecats 12 годин тому +1

      omg you're right! I knew someone else with the same eyes that was a psychopath.

    • @pamlove421
      @pamlove421 9 годин тому +1

      Wow, I've never heard of that before & I'm a retired optician. Very interesting!

  • @jannasmith3275
    @jannasmith3275 22 години тому +1

    What a little coward POS. Him and his family saw the girl and didn't intervene. They should be locked up as well. People are scared to get involved, well maybe if they're scared of going to prison for the same thing, they'd be more likely to get involved...

  • @kegofjollyranchers4428
    @kegofjollyranchers4428 2 дні тому +26

    everything about this case is so maddening. there were so many opportunities for this poor woman to be saved. god bless her and her family

  • @115zombiees
    @115zombiees 3 дні тому +44

    i couldnt bear the weight that husband carries, i am so sorry.

  • @cepcee6035
    @cepcee6035 2 дні тому +33

    What a complete mess up the poor woman had no chance surrounded by incompetent police and others and most disturbingly the cousin supplying him with a murder kit and doing nothing. Devastating!

  • @djjones7226
    @djjones7226 День тому +2

    I remember this case and I remember Denise's father being interviewed. It was absolutely heart wrenching! She was definitely the daughter of a Sheriff..confirmed by her courageous 911 call in which she discreetly gave as much information as she possibly could in order to try to save herself. And but for the inexcusable screw up with the witness driver's following 911 call Denise could have indeed been rescued in time. RIP Beautiful Angel Girl🙏💞

  • @Sarahzstuff
    @Sarahzstuff День тому +3

    I used to think my story was unique but as I grew older I realized that these things are only too common. 😞