THE MOST INSANE CALL IN THE HISTORY OF POKER!

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
  • You won't believe your eyes when you see this hand! Fortunately, there is video evidence and multiple witnesses that it truly happened on Live at the Bike last week. Doug plays an epic hand against Alec Torelli, who makes a completely mind-blowing play to close the action. This might be the most incredible moment in the history of tabletop games.
    As always on Poker Hands, Doug breaks down each street of action and shares his thoughts on how each player made their decisions.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 915

  • @DougPolkPoker
    @DougPolkPoker  7 років тому +445

    My title+thumbnail game is always gonna be ridiculously over the top and trolly. it's the way to succeed on the platform, and also it's super lol

    • @Neil454ss
      @Neil454ss 7 років тому +40

      Photoshop breasts on yourself and I guarantee you get about 10k more clicks.

    • @eggsbacongritsandsausage8178
      @eggsbacongritsandsausage8178 7 років тому +4

      Doug Polk Poker, loving your analysis Doug. Top class!

    • @Amethyst_Friend
      @Amethyst_Friend 7 років тому +1

      Yep, I liked it.

    • @FightMeRLG
      @FightMeRLG 7 років тому +10

      Doug Polk Poker Your troll game is the stone cold nuts. Latest example: 17:11 spoofing Alec Torelli's style of shooting videos at the end of this video. I did a legit spit take from laughing so hard. What did it was including yourself dancing sarcastically during the dubstep montage of Alec. That was so funny I legit couldn't breath for a minute there.

    • @Trias805
      @Trias805 7 років тому +97

      But if you're going to clickbait with every single title, you're gonna have waaaaaaaay too many clickbaits in your range.

  • @Eimantasification
    @Eimantasification 7 років тому +504

    Have you ever thought about moving up the stakes where they respect your raises?

    • @bigpapih1161
      @bigpapih1161 7 років тому +19

      Eimantas Venckus lol

    • @huguito8607
      @huguito8607 7 років тому +6

      Eimantas Venckus hahaha

    • @broadwayat
      @broadwayat 7 років тому +6

      ahhahahhahhahahaaaa

    • @Fr33co
      @Fr33co 7 років тому +42

      some retards don't even get a joke.

    • @huguito8607
      @huguito8607 7 років тому +5

      Anus Bananus wat?

  • @JohnDoe-vh2ww
    @JohnDoe-vh2ww 7 років тому +133

    Am I the only one who actually wanted to see that QQ hand till the end?

  • @ryuk7502
    @ryuk7502 7 років тому +157

    THE MOST INSANE CALL IN THE HISTORY IN THE HOOD GONE SEXUAL ALMOST DIED

  • @smaze1782
    @smaze1782 7 років тому +11

    Did the announcer just say "the best player in the world"? Respect.

  • @Neil454ss
    @Neil454ss 7 років тому +39

    He wanted to "keep you honest."

  • @bills4983
    @bills4983 7 років тому +52

    lmao best editing so far. wp doug. the troll of AT's vlog style made me srsly rofl

  • @felipelumo2705
    @felipelumo2705 7 років тому +37

    That player signed as "DOUG" in a video is clearly a massive fish, I want that guy on my table ! 😁

  • @caio7487
    @caio7487 7 років тому +121

    Hey Doug, dont you think the guy tanking pre flop helped Alec to make the turn and river decision? Because i think he realized the guy could have ATs, AJ+, so by the river your range was much more polarized

    • @seiman1111
      @seiman1111 7 років тому +12

      Caio thats smart!

    • @benhebblethwaite6479
      @benhebblethwaite6479 7 років тому

      We'll see if Torrelli offers his own version. Keep this to yourself in the meantime. We don't want him telling polkies.

    • @maxpal27
      @maxpal27 7 років тому

      no.

    • @Rydajay
      @Rydajay 7 років тому +18

      That's too speculative. There are just way too many variables to make reads based on one of your opponents taking a little longer to fold preflop.

    • @vishalsabhandasani5892
      @vishalsabhandasani5892 7 років тому

      Caio ryt

  • @JohnSmith-cy8hq
    @JohnSmith-cy8hq 7 років тому +21

    I thought Doug must've been randomly spazzing and overbluffing so I plugged the hand in pokersnowie. It by far prefers betting flop 100% of time. It does check turn but EV for betting is close and Doug explains it makes sense to bet in his strategy (which is better than Snowie's anyways lol). I will never doubt Doug again.

  • @dimitrismaster
    @dimitrismaster 7 років тому +4

    I must admit,this is one of the most entertaining and educational live hands i 've evere seen on youtube.You and Alec are my favorite poker youtubers.I have learned a lot from both of you.Your videos are more hillarious though

  • @ConsciousPoker
    @ConsciousPoker 7 років тому +234

    lol well done. Love the intro troll.

    • @k7618396
      @k7618396 7 років тому +7

      Alec Torelli I actually love your intro lol

    • @WayneChiangPoker
      @WayneChiangPoker 7 років тому +1

      Alec Torelli Doug Polk put my seat to good use!

    • @ricpo8683
      @ricpo8683 7 років тому +3

      i dont understand Alec.. I think you called down because it was Doug.. my perception of you has always been you are a nit... you fold a set when negreanue represents a flush when the third club gets there on the turn.. but u dont fold jacks in a 3bet pot vs crazy aggression

    • @pokerqAK47
      @pokerqAK47 7 років тому

      Alec please do your review.

    • @k7618396
      @k7618396 7 років тому +2

      with the original intro ;)

  • @seviren
    @seviren 7 років тому +32

    Man I was dying at the end when Alec is tanking to the rounders soundtrack and then you're headbanging to his intro track. hahahaha

    • @kilppa
      @kilppa 6 років тому +5

      He was thinking about Vegas and the fucking Mirage. :D

    • @IIIrandomIII
      @IIIrandomIII 6 років тому

      I never laughed so hard!
      I really want to hate Doug, but it’s so hard!

    • @castlehill6717
      @castlehill6717 4 роки тому

      IIIrandomIII You probably shouldn’t want to hate anybody

    • @lucasng4712
      @lucasng4712 2 роки тому

      @@castlehill6717 I hate hitler

  • @jonathanpham7397
    @jonathanpham7397 5 днів тому

    this why you're the man dougie. most ppl with an ego problem would worry about someone finding this clip and posting it but here you are posting it yourself and helping us learn from it. thx

  • @coreysoden3313
    @coreysoden3313 7 років тому

    easily my favourite hand review of all time. considering the relevance, analysis and entertaining edits, nice work doug!

  • @notmypresident3107
    @notmypresident3107 7 років тому +1

    its classy to give props to opponents who made good decisions or outplayed you. In my career, I remember the hands I lost more than the hands I won.
    Great vid!

  • @6295607
    @6295607 7 років тому +8

    16:55 "I want him to think that I am pondering a call, but all I'm really thinkin' about is Vegas and the fuckin' Mirage."

  • @movieguy7398
    @movieguy7398 7 років тому +8

    "You were supposed to fold there"
    i want that on my tombstone.

  • @UraStr
    @UraStr 7 років тому

    you were always really good at this("pokerhands" are the funniest and strategically strongest poker hand analysis there is), but you getting even better and better...thumbs up

  • @bobbybrackets_betting6629
    @bobbybrackets_betting6629 7 років тому

    Love this video!! And the kid with the "wow" comment was a classic polker show highlight for me. Great content as always, keep up the great work!!

  • @scarfacegr5
    @scarfacegr5 7 років тому +22

    2:55 Is this fucking SOFLO ANTONIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO????

    • @DougPolkPoker
      @DougPolkPoker  7 років тому +27

      I won't lie, that is definitely him.

    • @scarfacegr5
      @scarfacegr5 7 років тому +19

      Everyone's playing checkers, but he's been playing poker for years.

    • @rezas2626
      @rezas2626 7 років тому

      yep

    • @sxyuali6087
      @sxyuali6087 7 років тому +1

      How did he get there LOL

    • @krepsinissss
      @krepsinissss 7 років тому +1

      looool

  • @GreasyDollarMenu
    @GreasyDollarMenu 7 років тому +36

    Hey Doug! I'm a long time viewer of your channel, and first time poster. I tried to make this as concise as possible.
    First and foremost: we (I speak on behalf of your entire fan-base) we love your content. It's hilarious. The editing is solid, and the comedic genius references that you make are humorous enough to make us all "roflcopter." I'm impressed, but not surprised, by how quickly this channel has grown in just a few short months! Secondly, your ability to convert complex poker strategies into layman's terms is definitely refreshing. Not every UA-camr has the ability to do that (I won't mention any names). It's awesome for a high stakes grinder, such as yourself, to produce such intelligible material. Thank you!
    I do have a few important questions though. In your videos, I notice that you spend the bulk of your time focusing on optimal lines for the "heroes" range - provided that we are operating under optimal game theory as well as exploitative theory. But you don't often mention what your thoughts are on your opponents holdings. What did you think Alec had here at the time? How did your perception of range change considering his actions pre-flop, on the flop, turn, and river? How often did you expect him to fold TT-KK? How often does he fold Ax (single pairs)? I know that "hand reading" is a major factor in any poker game. Could you try to shed some more light on this important concept in the future?
    Thanks Dewd - and thank you (all) for reading if you made it this far!!

    • @GHE-bv1pf
      @GHE-bv1pf 4 роки тому

      Game Theory states no matter what your opponents do, you will win. He has video about math behind it. Doesn't matter if the opponent call here too much or too little. He will be profitable on the long term. At the very worst, assuming that your opponent is playing perfect gto, hero will break-even.

    • @castlehill6717
      @castlehill6717 4 роки тому

      Starwood Graham Agreed however not to say that there is no merit in knowing an opponents tendencies over no information at all, assuming your opponent is able to be exploited, that is.

  • @codyquillen9443
    @codyquillen9443 7 років тому +1

    This is by far the best poker video I've ever seen! From the analysis to the troll at the end! Thanks Doug!

  • @armaansingh695
    @armaansingh695 7 років тому

    Loved the way you started the video, knew everyone would loved to know and see the analysis on this hand! 2 of the best players collide!

  • @Alex-yv4vr
    @Alex-yv4vr 7 років тому +5

    Got a question Doug - Howcome when the K comes on the river the logic used is that the K doesn't help you so much as you now have less combo's of AK. However with the 7 and 2 on the flop you don't say you are less likely to have A-2/7 cos of the less combo options, you say you could have A-2/7 etc..? I know its a small point but with you re-raising on the button and betting flop and river - surely AK is a defite possibility?
    I'm asking cos often I watch hand analysis videos - and sometimes when the card hits the turn/river the argument used is that it is less likely to have hit because of the fewer possible combos. Where as sometimes when the hero bets following the card on the river/turn the argument is that he must have that card cos he's continued to bet.
    Also I'm not some idiot troll thats won a tenner and now thinks he knows more than you. Ive recently got into the game and wanna try and learn.

    • @99jaydenz
      @99jaydenz 7 років тому +1

      he consistently stated his amount of A2s combo's (being 3). A7 is a bit tricky because we don't know if that is getting 3bet preflop or not. Since Doug would be 3betting all 16 combos of AK pre, but only 4 combos of A2 (only suited), the 2 on the flop has less of an effect on his value range compared to the K on the river.
      Also if there were no 2 on the flop, A2s is definitely not triple barreling as it is top pair weak kicker, whereas AK is a lot of the time used as a triple barrel because it's kicker is strong enough

    • @MK-13337
      @MK-13337 5 років тому

      I dunno if this is relevant after two years but here I am. The hands that doug will play here that beat jacks with big pairs are AQ and AK. Since the ace of spades is on the board doug can only have 12 combos of AK and AQ (I hope this is clear). The king on the river means that doug will only have 9 possible comboes of AK in his hand, and since AK was already beating jacks it doesn't help doug any. So the big value hands go from 12 of AK and AQ to 9 of AK and 12 of AQ.
      For a very simple illustration, if a flop comes AAA then your opponent can only have 4 combos of AK since three aces are on the board. If the turn is an ace your opponent can't have any AK at all since there are no aces in the deck. Hopefully this illustration wasnt too simple :/

  • @chriswilson1968
    @chriswilson1968 7 років тому +62

    Doug always preaches about picking the right hands to bluff with. Come on Doug you know you are over bluffing here.

    • @Amethyst_Friend
      @Amethyst_Friend 7 років тому

      No he isn't. Did you not watch the whole video?

    • @ThePodgeiscool
      @ThePodgeiscool 7 років тому +12

      Chris Wilson exactly what I was thinking also. He preaches about choosing good hands too bluff with, where in this spot he has basically zero equity all the way through the hand. I guess when he does it it's ok...

    • @chriswilson1968
      @chriswilson1968 7 років тому

      Learning It Quietly Yes I did and yes he is. How is not over bluffing? lol He has total air just about.

    • @chriswilson1968
      @chriswilson1968 7 років тому

      Padraigh Cody-Lally Well he paid for it didn't he lol He got hero called and got stacked.

    • @hellfigter12345
      @hellfigter12345 7 років тому

      Gut shots are so much more sexy of a KQ to remove value -.-

  • @nintendokings
    @nintendokings 7 років тому +1

    This was a 10/10 video Dog Plok. Great editing too. Have you ever considered calling it Polker hands?

  • @Master-vx3qh
    @Master-vx3qh 7 років тому +33

    why bothering bluffing with that garbage when u could 3-bet with K4o?

    • @UraStr
      @UraStr 7 років тому

      you are the king dude... :)

  • @supremetempo
    @supremetempo 7 років тому +6

    "If the turn comes a 10,9, 5 or 4 im gona have a strait draw that i can keep barreling."
    Turn comes 3
    BAZZERS

  • @thomasparg1981
    @thomasparg1981 7 років тому +3

    7:07-9:37 My brain totally flatlined! It was like listening to the architect of the matrix.

  • @haloelitematt3663
    @haloelitematt3663 7 років тому +2

    Not sure how you managed to discuss this hand with such detail yet an honest critique of Alec's line with humility and crediting him at the same time. You're a grade A player and grade A dude.

  • @anshumanacharya1422
    @anshumanacharya1422 7 років тому

    Keep up the good work, man. I wanna see you live more.

  • @FightMeRLG
    @FightMeRLG 7 років тому +7

    Who else noticed that Doug refuses to call this segment Polker Hands (he calls it Poker Hands), but when he did anaylsis of a PLO hand he called it "PLOker Hands"? lmao Doug be trolling us :D

    • @Trias805
      @Trias805 7 років тому

      That was Joe Ingram. Doug doesn't analyze PLO.

    • @FightMeRLG
      @FightMeRLG 7 років тому

      It was a joke partially as a tribute to Joey. But Doug definitely did it earlier this week lol He called a hand PLOlker Hands to troll us hahaaha

  • @mikegibbo
    @mikegibbo 5 років тому +3

    "at the end of the day" Torelli may have chased a hero call in order to increase youtube notoriety - lol

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole 3 роки тому

      Same could be said for Doug trying to bluff him for views. Eitther way both win.

  • @jyahnig
    @jyahnig 7 років тому

    This is your best video to date. On a side note, I love turning over my hands, like I have the best of it, when 3 bet bluffing and getting called. The looks on their faces is priceless...or my stack, whatever.

  • @extrmfan9909
    @extrmfan9909 7 років тому

    YOU ARE SOOOOOO FUNNY DOUG!!! Kinda amazed I'm laughing at a freaking poker vlog. Keep those videos coming!

  • @luckymaggie6594
    @luckymaggie6594 7 років тому +74

    Please do a weight loss challenge after your bankroll challenge. You are only 28, please get your body in shape.

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman 7 років тому +29

      For an American he's not that out of shape.

    • @maxpal27
      @maxpal27 7 років тому +57

      You should try the ''don't be a piece of shit challenge'' but you would fail miserably. Good Luck!

    • @huguito8607
      @huguito8607 7 років тому

      Leggo My Ego haha that's true.

    • @kyle5299
      @kyle5299 7 років тому +1

      Seconding the don't be a piece of shit challenge.

    • @jburge61
      @jburge61 7 років тому +1

      He looked a little bigger because he had a lot of cash strapped to his body. You know this was intentional to stir up people like you. #owned.

  • @2011blueman
    @2011blueman 7 років тому +14

    Alec clearly had your number in this hand. If I was Doug I'd be heavily studying the video for a physical tell.

    • @DougPolkPoker
      @DougPolkPoker  7 років тому +41

      +Leggo My Ego If I was Doug, I'd stick to microstakes

    • @DoubleDummy
      @DoubleDummy 7 років тому +1

      More than anything it's your attitude to everything that makes me come back and watch and read more of stuff. Did watch, would watch again, 5 bluffs out of 5 :-)

    • @UraStr
      @UraStr 7 років тому

      you make me laugh all the time thanks...even these little comments and jabs, I can't help it :D

  • @JBRaade
    @JBRaade 7 років тому

    Thanks, Doug! Your videos are the best there are for free.

  • @Just2Good3
    @Just2Good3 7 років тому

    That Alec intro troll was too hilarious! Nice work as always Doug!

  • @LooxeY
    @LooxeY 7 років тому +73

    is that SoFlo?

    • @bdotrINDY
      @bdotrINDY 7 років тому +8

      yes

    • @bngmob
      @bngmob 7 років тому

      Márton Lukács he should've been arrested on the spot

    • @sxyuali6087
      @sxyuali6087 7 років тому +13

      Yeap losing his facebook money from stolen content :)))))

    • @LooxeY
      @LooxeY 7 років тому

      that's craaaaaaaaaazy

    • @bigpapih1161
      @bigpapih1161 7 років тому +1

      Márton Lukács definitely a fish

  • @Mrwutevah
    @Mrwutevah 7 років тому +5

    Is... Is that SoFlo? Antonio?
    ?????

  • @su0tin731
    @su0tin731 7 років тому

    Awesome video, loved the analisys (although it's pretty tricky) and the ending.

  • @buckfuttler2877
    @buckfuttler2877 7 років тому

    man....ive been playing poker for over ten years and doug makes me feel like ive learned nothing the whole time.. lol keep up the good work man. subed!

  • @maxmatthews7408
    @maxmatthews7408 7 років тому +3

    Alec played like zero hands the next day

  • @gregorysears1497
    @gregorysears1497 7 років тому +4

    lol you faked us out in the beginning.

    • @gregorysears1497
      @gregorysears1497 7 років тому

      Very Nice video. Probably the best one you have done so far that i have seen. I especially love the ending with all the wows, and what was Alec Thinking. lmao well done Doug

    • @EricSmyth2Christ
      @EricSmyth2Christ 7 років тому

      I legit thought he was going to do 2 hands.

  • @MrSimonvk
    @MrSimonvk 7 років тому

    good analysis and funny stuff in the video, good job once again!

  • @patl4416
    @patl4416 7 років тому +1

    Gotta respect the video of being owned. Good job!! Thanks for balancing your range

  • @effortlessawareness8778
    @effortlessawareness8778 7 років тому +9

    Alec torelli is not making this call if the pot is over 100k. But then again is doug ever 3 barelling with 86suited when the pot is over 100k either? The stakes you are playing vs the $bankroll you have to play is a very important factor here. Also the fact that this hand is televised and you 2 both have channels factors in to your decision. Alec torelli would rather call and lose on the river then fold and be bluffed because alec can justify a call even if doug did have AA or AK or Axs (2 pair) by suggesting that there are suited connectors and suited gappers in doug's 3bet button range and he could be firing a missed FD or just complete air. **The stakes vs your guys's bankrolls is a huge factor here.**

    • @EricSmyth2Christ
      @EricSmyth2Christ 7 років тому +1

      Completely disagree about the stakes, but Alec is certainly one good misclick away from destroying all future nit jokes, and that *definitely* is a factor for *him*. For Doug, he plays micro stakes as a challenge and folds gut shot straight flush draws if the price is off by a penny all the time, but will 3 barrel bluff in a 1 million dollar BUY-IN tournament, so you are completely off there %100. The fact that it's televised creates much more incentive to make plays that are closer to what is considered good poker, not necessarily to call or fold more than that, and when the stakes are higher, the best players lean more towards taking the better play than the lower variance play, since it makes more money. High stakes is not an excuse to play bad poker, and the players that are good enough to win up there consistently are aware of it.

    • @EricSmyth2Christ
      @EricSmyth2Christ 7 років тому

      You are saying they get less bluffy and less stationy as they move up, but both can't be true. If higher stakes creates more folds, then there will be more bluffs (Doug will absolutely 3-barrel the 86 for 100k pot here), but if higher stakes creates less folds since there are more bluffs, then there will be more calls. It's neither, it's absolutely neither, that's what my comment is saying above, but if it *was* one of those things (less stationy or less bluffy), it can't be both at the same time, because it doesn't make a ton of sense. Bankroll management is a strategy dealt with before the game starts, not during the game. Once the chips are in play, they turn into units, and stay that way until they are cashed out.

    • @elastronaute1198
      @elastronaute1198 6 років тому

      Live 2Learn nothing to do with stakes at all. They would both play the same way regardless of stakes - they are trying to make good decisions and win long-term. Stakes are largely irrelevant to these players with their respective rolls.

    • @89Madridista
      @89Madridista 6 років тому

      Live 2Learn i disagree with you 100%. You have the proof on a video in which Doug Polk bluffed like 200k or 300k US $ on the river against Patrick Antonius (i don't remember exactly the amount of the bluff, but it was huge).

  • @xMrBoltActionx
    @xMrBoltActionx 7 років тому +5

    Who else thought this would be Doug and Alec video?

  • @andrewh7308
    @andrewh7308 7 років тому

    LOL loved that you did the Torelli intro parody Doug. Great video!

  • @chrisagnew412
    @chrisagnew412 7 років тому

    That ending though! LOL good stuff, Doug! Keep it up!!!

  • @fedea82
    @fedea82 7 років тому +9

    I strongly disagree with your analysis here Doug, although granted I'm not a pro but I'll try to explain my thought process, you can point me out where I go wrong which would be awesome. Alec called a 3b pre oop from ep, then x/c flop and turn. He knows you are capable of 3 barrelling. He's got all the aces in the world in his range, and he's gonna call you down with any ace on the river, pretty much always. Your hand not blocking low aces on the river is not relevant, if Alec is capable of hero calling with jj we know any ace would call you as well. All the scarecards he could possibly hate haven't come, and the K is a relative brick. He's an elite player like you, so we know that he knows that for him x/c x/c x/f would be horrible here. Flush draws are not in his x/c x/c range, that would likely go x/c x/r, or x/r b/f. Low and mid pairs would either fold or 4b bluff preflop...I understand that you want to balance your range, but in this situation you are (by your own admission in the video) completely ignoring what your opponent is up to in order to achieve said balance, which ironically makes you exploitable since you are bringing joy and glory to bluffcatchers and hero calls plus your image at the table gets too maniac after showdown, which screws any future fold equity, we don't want that if we are loose do we....I liked trying one barrel on the flop, but turn and river were too much (specially river), we wanna have less bluffs on turns and even less on rivers, plus by your own admission you would already put 3 barrels into any missed draws of yours, that's more than enough bluffing imo.

    • @BobBob-xk1wd
      @BobBob-xk1wd 7 років тому +4

      That was a terrible analysis. None of what you said was even remotely true or even makes any sense.
      1. Being capable of triple barreling is completely irrelevant, just because Doug can bluff, doesn't mean you call down with terrible hands which have reverse blocking power.
      2. The fact he has all aces in his range is even more of a reason to not call down. He can simply call a portion of his aces without being exploited. He doesn't HAVE to call down with jacks to avoid getting fucked. In fact even if he calls all aces here, he's possibly still over calling.
      3. x/c x/c x/f is not horrible here, in fact it's a necessity, if Alec fucks he's frequencies by never folding on the river, Doug can exploit him to the literal maximum and print money as If he was playing against a micro-stakes player.
      4. Fd's are in his x/c x/c range, low fd's are not. kqss,kqdd, can and should both x/c twice.
      5. Low and mid pairs should not 4b bluff or fold. They should mainly call and sometimes fold dependent on stack size. If your 4b gets called, you're oop at a ridiculous equity disadvantage. If doug 5bet shoves, you HAVE to fold.
      6. Balance makes you the opposite of exploitable, Alec's play makes him exploitable. If Alec calls down with JJ ESPECIALLY with the spade, he's going to get roasted in the long term. If doug shows up with a bluff 30% of the time in this situation, and Alec (given that his calling jj with the spade, he's basically calling 100% of his range) calls 100% of his range, the pots going to Doug 70% of the time. As doug now knows Alec to be overcalling to the max, he can also underbluff to further increase his edge in this spot.

    • @fedea82
      @fedea82 7 років тому +2

      Bob Bob well I guess i agree to disagree, with pretty much every point you said, since you are analizing what Alec's play should be for balance and I was thinking more on the line of how Doug could bluff less to counterexploit Alec's exploitation of Doug's tendencies, he has too many bluffs on that spot and Torelli exploits that. x/c x/c x/f is always horrible btw, if you are gonna fold on river blanks, Polk said so himself. You putting that line as a necessity is laughable when you can just fold weak hands on turns and call w both strong ones and bluffcatchers. Furthermore, distinguishing on how to play between low and high fd's for these lines doesn't balance them, ironically it's probably better to x/r high fd's and x/c low ones that might be dominated. And why on Earth would you wanna call preflop with mid and low pairs oop vs a polarized 3b range and then win small or middle pots once in a moonlight (best case scenario vs elite players) or fold postflop escapes me....sorry mate I don't agree w you at all.

    • @BobBob-xk1wd
      @BobBob-xk1wd 7 років тому

      +Fede A idek what to say when you make a comment like that. What i said wasn't something to be disagreed with, in fact most of what I said wasn't my opinion and rather an explanation of why what you said was objectively incorrect. I was discussing the implications of math theory in exploitative play, and explaining how doug is in a WIN WIN situation. As he explained, he's not overbluffing since hes picking his bluff combinations in a particular way to maximize fold equity vs villians range.
      All doug needs to do is drop a portion of his bluff combinations that block alec's bluffs to exploit his play to the maximum.....Alec is already being exploited by overcalling with one of the worst possible hands to call with.
      You're probably correct though, doug who's played millions of hands of poker and broken the game down to it's analytical core whilst competing with the best players in the world is probably over bluffing and losing to a high-stakes live player in a standard 3 bet pot on a standard run out. He's probably just weak in these spots -.-.

    • @stephify
      @stephify 7 років тому +4

      you do know doug is analysing this had in terms of balance and GTO. it doesnt matter alec is calling you down with JJ or not, or how many A he has to call you, if Doug is playing part of a GTO strategy which 86 is PART OF, and I dont think hes going out of his way to exploit a solid player like Alec, it doesnt matter what Alec is calling him with. No strategy Alec take will increase his EV against a balanced 3 barrel. Remember, if Alec is calling wide, Doug just makes more money with his value to compensate for his bluff's extra loss.

    • @fedea82
      @fedea82 7 років тому +1

      jeremy lin my problem is that I don't think Doug is playing gto here (no one can play gto btw, just hope to approach it). That was my whole point. Including 86s as a 3b bluff pre + 3 barrel bluff post vs a tight ep opening range on dry non-scary boards is not gto, it's too loose and bluff heavy, which makes it exploitable by simply overcalling.

  • @TomAKAsP3ctRum
    @TomAKAsP3ctRum 7 років тому +38

    hey doug i know that in general you are targeting the weaker minded audience with yourthumbnails but this one is srsly an insult to my intelligence hope the video can hold up God Bless

    • @jokoneli
      @jokoneli 7 років тому +5

      Henry Mücke haha I was thinking the same but he's trolling Torelli here you know :D

    • @TomAKAsP3ctRum
      @TomAKAsP3ctRum 7 років тому

      true

    • @chriswilson1968
      @chriswilson1968 7 років тому

      Henry Mücke Please stop talking like that, you look like the weak minded when you do lol

    • @carlgibson7850
      @carlgibson7850 7 років тому +2

      Not to mention, taking youtube video titles too seriously is....beyond silly.

    • @Michael-eu4pf
      @Michael-eu4pf 7 років тому +1

      Henry Mücke He weaker minded? lmao. Stfu Albert Einstien, you're not cool and probably suck at poker.

  • @leonbrennan5738
    @leonbrennan5738 7 років тому

    That was so funny. Thx for all the awesome content!

  • @thomasdiamond5231
    @thomasdiamond5231 7 років тому

    glad i found your channel doug, thanks

  • @themonaghan999
    @themonaghan999 7 років тому +1

    Alec torelli and Doug polk my two favourite players a dream hand RESPECT i love both your channels two true poker legends of the game

  • @RVTIPSANDTRAVELS
    @RVTIPSANDTRAVELS 7 років тому

    Love the rounders reference. Great video.

  • @vovomohr
    @vovomohr 7 років тому

    Your explanations are the best, tnx for the vids!!

  • @moojersey3
    @moojersey3 7 років тому

    I LOL'd at the end. WOWWwW. Wooooowwwww lol.
    Love that hand between Ivey / Dwan too. Announcers are epic lol.
    On a serious note I just started browsing your free content on upswing poker and am thinking about purchasing more. Looks really good.

  • @trixmtll1393
    @trixmtll1393 7 років тому

    Always love seeing your bluff hands Doug. Way to own it up. Just like that 74 vs Antonius. Image have to go see if Alec did a video on this hand lol!

  • @russellthio8664
    @russellthio8664 7 років тому

    Hey Doug, I was just watching your tournament play n explain video of the mtt module in the lab. It was the Kilamanjaro part 3 video, and at around the 21st minute of the video you opened Ah7h utg and btn 3b you w 4h6h. Btn then went bet bet jam and you mentioned that he could've picked a better hand to barrel with ott. I know the board texture and run out was different from your hand vs Alec Torelli, but he took the exact same line as you did with 86s on an Ace high flop. What are the differences in these 2 hands?

  • @ValHeartNDHeartSuqquNoHeartPat
    @ValHeartNDHeartSuqquNoHeartPat 7 років тому

    part of what makes your channel so good is the chatter - your comment on the title and that reply about clickbaits 😂

  • @reeves1982
    @reeves1982 7 років тому

    Lmao! The trolling at the end was fantastic!!!

  • @danielpham9257
    @danielpham9257 7 років тому

    The ending skit is the best thing I've seen on this channel hahahahahah

  • @niels8195
    @niels8195 7 років тому

    As an AT and Polk fan I love this. Especially the ending with Alec's intro

  • @jimkim70
    @jimkim70 7 років тому

    great analysis...as usual...thanks

  • @TheMarkundercover
    @TheMarkundercover 7 років тому

    Always great stuff
    And fun to see Alec feature the same hand (no surprise, but fun)

  • @seattlemeng
    @seattlemeng 7 років тому

    Yes, thank you! I felt nobody talked about how tight the 99s fold was!

  • @mrmurphyzone
    @mrmurphyzone 7 років тому

    Love the vids, one thing I struggle with being a new Lab member is when you say '"we have better hands to call with". For example in this spot isn't it the same decision if Torelli has A10? As you're representing a polarised range of 2 pair plus hands (maybe AQ). Or do you mean it in terms of card removal?
    Thanks.

  • @ThomasNelson1977
    @ThomasNelson1977 7 років тому +1

    This was awesome, great explanation of how sometimes you just gotta go for it and not tilt yourself out of your next good play.

  • @mattberkey
    @mattberkey 7 років тому +1

    @dougpolkpoker I'd be curious as to what spades you believe Torrelli to have moving forward throughout this hand in order to believe it to be advantageous to have a hand which unblocks-- esp. considering only 100bbs deep (considering the straddle) in a 3 bet pot when he opens early... KQss exactly? Also, isn't unblocking the Ad a problem when including those rivers as bluff candidates for yourself? Agree, w/everything beyond how you're ranging him.

  • @Harbz
    @Harbz 7 років тому +2

    Best thumbnail and title ever lol

  • @imanbio
    @imanbio 7 років тому

    beautiful analysis, thnx

  • @Flabbergastingflatulence
    @Flabbergastingflatulence 7 років тому +1

    The comment about getting owned sometimes was very humble Doug, very impressed with that. My feeling is that he had a slight read on your bet sizing this time as they came across as a little defensive, in the sense that this fell into AT's behavioral profile of what to expect from you in this specific spot/ action line. Still, to listen to your gut feeling and still go with it takes courage. Credit to both of you though for creating this fascinating professional poker hand for us all to view and blow our minds. Big Fan :)

  • @MATTHRPE
    @MATTHRPE 7 років тому +1

    Does all this thought process go through your head while you're actually in the hand, including counting combos ? If so then you are pretty awesome dude, I don't know how you do it.

  • @theNonexistentKnight
    @theNonexistentKnight 7 років тому

    Doug, thanks for your instructive videos, can you please make one about how much should a good players decisions be based on blockers?
    You seem to talk about blockers a lot more than other poker analysts and commentators on youtube. I'm no pro and know a lot less about poker but do you ever wonder if you overemphasize blockers in your decision making, like maybe in this hand? And are they more relevant a decision making tool in cash games than in tournaments? I play mostly online tournaments and find it hard to imagine sitting in a final table and making a big decision based on blockers instead of focusing just on the logic of the pot and the spot. But in cash games I somehow find it more comfortable to factor them in.

  • @gstung
    @gstung 7 років тому

    How different does the hand play out if you check back the turn and then fire the river?

  • @dochmbi
    @dochmbi 7 років тому

    Interesting analysis! Thanks! I initially thought the turn bet would be too wide, but yeah, it makes sense, it's actually a decent bluff, because 3-barreling with spades is not such a good idea. Nice.

  • @209twitch
    @209twitch 7 років тому

    You have the best memes, Doug.

  • @BeasTxMode2000
    @BeasTxMode2000 7 років тому +2

    wow that ending was legendary lmao

  • @clownstep
    @clownstep 5 років тому

    the edits are spot on. WOW

  • @aaltemari24
    @aaltemari24 7 років тому

    great stuff Doug

  • @arod68993
    @arod68993 7 років тому

    Phenomenal video and even better troll. Cant wait to see Alec's analysis as well of this hand, said he's doing it this week.

  • @McGavel1
    @McGavel1 7 років тому

    awesome hand - thanks for the tips! Cool term and point about if 4b w/AQ will "over-realize" value since it looks like AA or KK in this spot (to villains since neither of them have an A nor K).

  • @jakeschultz1049
    @jakeschultz1049 7 років тому

    i was very disapointed when i thought you were doing a different hand then the jj one lol doug deff got me for a second

  • @asherreich8299
    @asherreich8299 7 років тому

    One of the best videos you've made imo, Doug!
    You say you're betting all A-K, A-Q and two-pair on the turn, if so what protects your check-back range with showdown value like K-K? As you said, weaker Aces are unlikely to 3-bet preflop. Can't Torelli overbet non-spade rivers with impunity when your check-back is always so weak?

  • @perfectlyhonest
    @perfectlyhonest 7 років тому

    That loud clang when you bet all three streets bluffing, and that commentary is on point damn

  • @tylermokarry9731
    @tylermokarry9731 7 років тому

    That hand of the day part was funny as hell 😂

  • @conormcindoe838
    @conormcindoe838 7 років тому

    Loooool such a fkin joker Doug. That ending was too much :D Keep it up

  • @tussii2335
    @tussii2335 7 років тому

    amazing, thank u doug!!

  • @j2b261
    @j2b261 7 років тому

    that's pretty funny. the two biggest poker vloggers headsup!

  • @adrianoalves20
    @adrianoalves20 7 років тому

    Oh man, you are too fun to watch. About the analysis UI have to watch it 2 more times to understand everything, haha. But my favorite part was def. what Alec was really thinking! LOL!

  • @sotirisgial6839
    @sotirisgial6839 7 років тому

    the fact that you have 86 of clubs and you wearing that shirt makes it even better!

  • @williamhilinsky1327
    @williamhilinsky1327 7 років тому

    Doug, your videos are tremendous.

  • @joejohnson678
    @joejohnson678 7 років тому +1

    Doug just has to throw in the clip where the announcer calls him the best player in the world. Doesn't need analysis but he has to throw it in there. Love it.

  • @produstef
    @produstef 6 років тому

    Given a certain spot, what determines whether the best way to balance a value-heavy range is to bet with more hands or check the bottom of the value range?

  • @biffen_minus1703
    @biffen_minus1703 7 років тому +1

    are u on bulk season doug?

  • @stevencherlake9901
    @stevencherlake9901 5 років тому

    I loved the rounders music at the end.

  • @jahangirkhan8563
    @jahangirkhan8563 7 років тому +1

    Hey doug the behind the scene thought looks eerily similar a scene from the movie rounders..... lol....