Reminds me of times I’ve gone for the 3-barrel bluff against the station at the table and get snapped by 4th pair and I’m just thinking “I knew he was a station... why did I do that?”
exactly, he (the commentator) looks like a smart guy, I'm sure he's doing great at whatever business he's doing, but poker is a different animal, raw intellect don't help you, you need to study the game hard...put in the hours...
the betting of art looks like a missed draw turned into a bluff. if he was strong he would value bet the river, going all in on a board like that smells of bluff.
Surely Gal does play a lot with art and knows art is good enough to bluff loads of missed draws and that's what he's doing. Gutsy call still but don't you have to call down against v good players a bit more on draw-heavy turns with bricked rivers?
I make those calls all the time. Those r ez. My toughest call was with 9 high. The reason you have never heard of me and my god-like calls is because i can't beat 4NL.
@@Luigi17891 He's saying if you take a line where it looks like you have a medium strong hand, and get caught bluffing, then you could just take that exact same line every time and get called down.
The lowest hero call was Ten-high by Stu Ungar. He was already in the final table playing heads-up during a tournament and busted the player as he read his mind for a busted draw
I think, at least for me I've found myself in arts shoes many a time before. Completely flabbergasted, wondering how my opponent could have made a series of calls. Only to realize later that it was simply a case of the villain saying to themselves: "I don't believe you, and I have a pair". And that's all it takes. But the good news is that players who make those types of calls, tend to make them frequently. And you can punish them for it.
Yes and no. I've been sitting at a table with shit hands for like 40 minutes so I go fuck it, I'm playing this crap. Once you get your head around the fact he played 43o, then the rest was played ok. All low cards but the J, and he could be confident no one would be as reckless as him to play low cards so all he had to do was decide if his opponent had a J.... he bet correctly and one an $88K pot. You would have to look at his game for at least 30 min to an hour to see if he really knows how to play. Maybe that's how he won, that was the first bad/ low set of cards he played that evening and his opponent couldn't predict that he would play that hand.... anyway, just a thought. Cheers.
While I’ve never played w gal personally, I have seen him play many sessions on LATB. By math guessing opponents ranges it clearly is not profitable in the long run. Gal does call more frequently than others in tough spots but I wouldn’t consider him a station. He makes many tough lay downs and is a solid player. I’m sure he had a read and feel that art was bluffing, the problem is he even loses to much of arts bluff range.
@@FISHDINHO He just did it in a multiway pot preflop, did it at flop and at turn, why not at river? He just thought he was comited and prayed for him having a bluff.
I think putting him on the flush draw wasnt too unreasonable, also we have no idea how well these players know each other. It looked it was a good read more than a loose call.
Never have I seen more heart in a professional level competitor. Doug Polk: The filmmaker and the artist--end of sentence, end of paragraph, period. While Polk's writing and editing styles might take him places in life, one wonders about the haircut.
That's the problem with poker, you can play perfect and still lose. That's how the game works, donkey's can draw out, jokers can make stupid calls and win.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 It's not a stupid call, it's 4 stupid calls. It's one of the best ways to blow up your money, calling preflop and 3 barrells with 43o.
You act like that wasn't a soul read. That was pure instinct and the will to go with the gut feeling. To me there is no greater feeling in this game than an insane against the odds hero call off the live read. As I said, pure.
Gal is a rough go man. He is tough to play against. Played deep w him hard rock in Hollywood, it’s not the worst call in the world. Certainly and exploitative one, and gal... per say.... doesn’t like to give up or be exploited... I like it.
Is it wrong that I don't hate the river call? The call pre flop is the worst. Post flop, if he has decided (correctly in this case) that his opponent is on an Ax flush draw, then the calls on turn and river are also correct. The big error was deciding to play trash in the first place.
Yeah this was pretty good play. And after some thought writing it down, seems kinda straight forward unless he has a soul read to fold. My only take away is what happens ina Situation where art is turning a hand into a bluff that still beats gal lol
@@gavinasaurus if you watch a couple vids back he talked about and made fun of the idea that LATB was selling these to begin with.. so seeing him wearing one without mentioning it was a good tongue and cheek laugh for those of us that noticed it.
In cash games, you need to recognize calling stations from recreational players. I have seen this a lot. Young Pro's getting called down weak by rec players.
Gal player this hand like how I used to play when I moved up in stakes and was playing with regs for the first time. I was paranoid that I was always being bluffed, and felt like I had to hold on with any hand whatsoever vs barrels. Then I lost 20 buy ins and adjusted.
For sure... I did the same once with J high (Call all in on River), but the Guy was a maníac and i mechanize my plays against him to discover the bluff. It worked! BEST Call of my carreer
When we see the To OTT vs a player that calls a x/r OTF into 4 players, but more importantly versus Gal specifically, I think we will find a lot of success by checking turn planning to x/c (because I think Gal overfires in these spots) and lead jam river on any card besides an 8 that doesn't pair the board. I don't know if Art has a leading range strategy, so this might not be effective for him. Thoughts?
Yea, I'm curious about checking turn as well I would peg Gal as stabbing a lot on the turn as well... That makes me want to bet though and keep the initiative (Honestly I'm hating life in this spot, I know Gal probably has sick live reads and has a huge ego so he won't give up on a hand easily... probably better to nit up and then trap him going forward) X/c then fold river is obviously terrible, x/c lead could be good What about x/r all-in? Then overbet if he checks back on turn Or what about 3x pot jam turn 😂 @Doug Polk Poker This spot actually comes up a lot where I get to the turn against a sticky and aggressive opponent (read massive ego) with a big draw and I feel intuitively like they aren't going to fold, but check calling sucks too... how do you normally navigate this spot (from adjustment/exploit perspective) Edit: to clarify, mainly live games, sometimes online games against an opponent (who I havea fair amount of history) that is not really a classical recreational player, they are thinking about the game (I would put Gal into this bucket) but no theoretical basis or discipline to their game, just street poker... I really don't want to bet, bet against them cuz they will call with bottom pair if they sense anything, if I check call then my redline will get whacked when I don't hit... betting turn then giving up river is bad for redline too...
I love it. Teach all of these overanalyzing “poker teachers” that sometimes, you put your opponent on a draw and dont think theyve got it. Betting bricks even helps you think that. Especially a river all-in. I used to wonder why i was getting called on my river all-ins all the time. But turns out i showed weakness and it helped them make hero calls. At the end of the day, it is still gambling.
Sure it is gambling but you are making thousands of bets not just one. I would explain it to you more but you seem to far gone. Would love to play cards with you.
his eyes would glaze over and he would begin muttering to himself, “4-3o is a fold pre... it’s a fold pre... he can’t have that hand... it’s a fold on the turn.... it’s not possible...” and he would sink into madness only to ripped back to reality by his fohawk stylist, who is of course his life coach.
I think it was also live @ at the bike where someone called 9/2 offsuit all in pre-flop. cold. he wasn't bluffing or anything. he just called off like 30k pre-flop cold all-in. with 9/2 off.
Analysis: “Sometimes he has a hand that beats you. Sometimes he has a hand that’s worse than you. I like a call, but be sure to mix in some folds and raises to your calls. Cause sometimes you’re gonna be beat and sometimes you’re gonna have the best hand.”
Doug is probably missing about how well Gal knows his opponent. They could be playing each other every day and Gal might exactly put his opponent on this kind of a hand as Art could be one of those players who always raise a flush draw the same way every other day. Polarizing the hand on the river ofcourse made the call a bit easier as it's then 50 -50. Busted draw or a monster hand like 77. The only issue is ofcourse investing $300 on this hand preflop. Once the raise came on that flop it's never a 2 pair hand on that board texture. It's either a set or draw or over pair. All over pairs are ruled out on the way the hand was polarized on the river. So it's 77 or 22 with Gal blocking 33. Well it boils down what normally Art will do with a set on the river. Will he bet 2/3 of the pot or full pot or will he polarize the hand like this for max value ? I would have made that call against certain players I'm playing with and folding against many.
I think this comment makes sense (I also make a similar comment above). Polarizing bet on the river was questionable. A smaller bet (say, half pot) helps also cover some some hands which were initially draws but got there (say J9cc or T9cc or 89cc or J8cc) or overcards like QJ or QT.
0:39 "...everyone exited to jump in except for the dog takin a nap in the corner..." Imagine the dog would also jump in yelling "all out" pooping on the table.... :-)
Pro tip: when the player next to you plays like he knows your exact hand look at your hole cards more carefully! Also value: 77,33,22,98cc,98ss=9, hands Art might always play this way: A9cc, A8cc, A6cc,A5cc,A2cc,54cc,54ss,54dd,54hh=9.... seems Art might be overbluffing river
LOL i was starting to really like Doug;s strategy talks lately but this one goes back to his earlier videos where he basically thinks poker is pure math and very little about game theory, line sizing, body lanaguage etc should be taken in to account. I think live poker is night and day compared to 8 tabling NL online. players play way differently. they try to force things more because they see a lot less hands per hour.
@Stang5.0 killsya there are times I want to believe online has worse beats or a DOOM switch if you want.. but i've played years and years of live and online poker. and i've had such bad beats live that i run the hand in a holdem calculator only to find out that my opponent had less than 1 % chance to win. but they got there and went perfect / perfect on turn and river.. so it can happen.
@Stang5.0 killsya I know we all feel a bit iffy when an unbelievable run out cracks our AAs yet again. Hence, a lot of people feeling online can't be trusted. But, I think it has more to do with anonymity than some sort of statistical anomaly. I preferred live over online even before they banned it in Australia, because people didn't do a total -EV weird shit in live setting. The embarrassment factor would simply be too great. And having to travel physically to a place, people don't want to risk their entire tournament or the daily bankroll on a 74o. But, people do online. If you entered the pot with three all-ins in front of you with K2o and won, in a live setting, people will continue to look at you like you're the biggest moron. And they'll eventually take advantage of that over the session. Online, people can just call with anything. If they suck out on someone big time, they can just pump fist in their room, feel good about cracking a set of AAs with 73o on A94 flop. With tournaments, no one wants to travel to wherever they need to go, buy-in to a tournament, go all-in pre-flop with J4o, bust and go back home. Online, you can do that and just move onto the next tournament. I didn't play much cash-games online. Played low to mid-stakes tournaments before it got banned. I had to adjust my game to narrowing my raising and calling range to top 5% in the earlier stages of the tournaments because of the above factors.
@Stang5.0 killsya I don't know if the random number generators are legit or not, but don't make a judgment based on your memory of hands. The extraordinary events will stand out while the expected ones will fade. With so many more hands played online, you'll have a larger number of unexpected events that stand out in your memory from playing online compared to live. Unless you've actually tracked every hand and run the numbers on each one, over the course of thousands of hands, you can't really draw a reliable conclusion.
@Stang5.0 killsya Well it doesn't really make sense for a conclusion to be reliable "to you". It's either reliable or it isn't. You can go ahead and draw the conclusion knowing it's not based on fact if you want to of course.
There's no analysis needed. Gal is simply not here to play poker. He's only here to throw some money around for entertainment. Not everyone playing poker is playing to win. Gal isn't trying to win money from poker, he's here for a bit of fun.
Why would you raise quickly the flop, bet the turn quickly, then take time on river only to shove it? If you have a good hand and vilain is calling you that quickly behind you wouldn't stop all that time for that all in on the river. Online play WILL NEVER be like live play.
That’s so true his body language was pretty strange like he was going for a draw and then on the River, Gal figured he didn’t hit it and donk bluffed so he snap called. Balls of steel to do it w just pair of 3’s!
He put him on a hand containing AKQ given the line, table dynamic, game history. Stuck to his guns on every street. Flush didn't come in. Called it down when mortals would have discarded original intuition. I saw this live streamed about a month or so back on LATB and as you can imagine, the text chat exploded at showdown.
Doug with you teach me how to profitably call an early position raise with 43o on the bottom? I think I got what it takes to play like Gal does and call someone down when his draw bricked with 4th pair no kicker.
You're lying to yourself Doug. Raise, fold or call has always been the best move. Yet when Gal pulls off a some next level balancing and call with 43o, you bash him for it. Honestly, I think you're just jealous because he's more GTO than you. Step up your game.
@@yellow95111 but don't worry about that....instead, concentrate on Arts pre flop action. He flat called into a four way pot in early position. What does that mean? What could his range possibly be? And then he check raises on the flop....that story makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. What could he possibly be representing? You just go over it in your head and you'll figure out it was a pretty obvious bluff....
@@yellow95111 the only problem with the call down.....and someone mentioned it earlier in the thread....is that Gal actually loses to a fair amount or Arts bluffs....
Look at the river and Art's body language. Joe Navarro book would tell you this is a bluff. his hand being so perfectly still in what appears to be a very rigid weird position. He looks tense. Not comfortable .This is often a sign of weakness.
What u r saying makes sense but, after reading ur comment i went back to check and the thing is that Art doesn't move at all between the turn and the river, he simply does not change his position throughout the hand so that wouldnt be a tell
@@lucazapatero824 you're half correct. Go back and watch the preflop action. his hand is relaxed. similar position but relaxed. Then watch after the flop. Relaxed still while he holds close to his cards. Once he check his hand stiffens up. He knows he's going to check/raise any bet here. His body is already getting tight because his heart rate is increasing. he's not comfortable because he knows he probably needs to catch a card in this hand. So his rigid hand pattern begins when he starts to semi-bluff / bluff.
@@lucazapatero824 found this hand from the same game. ua-cam.com/video/9Y6TCFhR9Gs/v-deo.html Just watch closely. its subtle. but its there. When Art has a good hand and isnt betting but calling. his hand position is similar but its relaxed. Its sitting flatter, thumb is in. when he was blufffing on the A8 hand. his hand was rigid.. thumb flexed out. difficult to hold this position for a very long time. his body is tense. These live at the bike games could tell some players a lot of info if they studied closely. lol
i've made quite similar calls... alot of players will not check a set in a 5 way pot where alot of draws are possible, you don't have position, and if you don't bet it's quite likely you're not gonna get any information out of your oponents on that flop, which makes those draws very dangerous. so assuming they've been playing against each other for a while now, i guess gal had already gotten some info on his oponent, whom might be one of the players who think so (i do to btw). so if no set, he's just going to have a draw alot of the time. turn and river each come higher than the board, not completing any draws, so when your oponent keeps betting, it's likely he didn't hit them. if you do hit one of those cards, you're gonne want to check because you now do have showdown value, and you'll rarely be called by a worse hand if you do bet. therefore, on the river, it is very reasonable to think art just 3 barrel bluffed a fushdraw.
Agreed. Look at when Art started betting. When there was 7-2-3 on the board. Not likely that he's holding either of those cards. And also not likely that he's holding a random T or J. The betting pattern just didn't fit the board. And the All-in was totally polarized. Given the fact that Art's betting pattern didn't make any sense. A bluff was absolutely the most likely solution to this, making the call with a pair of 3s potentially profitable, because Art is bluffing more often than not here.
I have a few friends with whom I play for a few bucks... And Im being ridiciouled by those idiots and called down with trash. But as soon you raise the blinds they immediately stop playing calling station... But this guy calls people down with 34 for a living 😂
I went all in pre flop with pocket aces in middle position. Someone in late position called me and then someone in early position called me. The girl in early position won it all...with a full house...2s full of 3s. She called me with Jack 2 off suit...so I guess j2 offsuit is playable now lol.
I called someone online with 10 high recently. I put him on a bunch of missed gutshots and an open ender (which he definitely had most combos cause of his playstyle), and turns out I was right, missed gutshot. I'm pretty awesome, am I right guys?
You'll make a lot of money in poker tournaments if you can read your opponent and see that they think to themselves, "the only way I'm winning this pot is if I bet the river". Look for busted flush draws and straight draws as a clue.
This is totally believable.
Really didn't like the line that Art took, especially against Gal, who obviously trained on Zynga Poker.
Sean Kelley 🤔
Please tell me where you play i gotta come 😂😂😂
@@oliverlaflamme9609 That was sarcasm. Thought you could tell by the Zynga line.
Reminds me of times I’ve gone for the 3-barrel bluff against the station at the table and get snapped by 4th pair and I’m just thinking “I knew he was a station... why did I do that?”
@@nich3683
how did this guy know I was on a draw ?snapped my all in on the turn with ace high and held :(
"Honey he called me with a pair of three's"
Paul Panapa this would have made Phil’s head explode haha for real tho this shit would have been perfect for him.
"Man, you shoulda seen it, I won a ninety K pot with three four offsuit"
"Honey he went all in with ace high"
@@weimondo yeah but the range for a bet is much higher than the range for a call....
He’s supposed to bust him 😂
"You can't win if you fold." - Tom Dwan
You lose every hand you fold
- Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott
You also can't lose much if you always fold.. :) Just the blinds every round.
@@DavidShinabarger Yes 👍
Joojoo jeejee sometimes it’s better to defend blinds there’s 1/5 chance you hit flop
You've obviously been out of the game for a very long time, Doug.
Everybody knows 43o is the new Aces now.
Shove any flop that has an ace on it. If you get snapped off, you can always hit the runner runner.
Lol
just to prove the 43os is the new AA i lost $427 with it just last night. LMAO
@@Jivvi I don't why, but the made me LOL literally :D
exactly, he (the commentator) looks like a smart guy, I'm sure he's doing great at whatever business he's doing, but poker is a different animal, raw intellect don't help you, you need to study the game hard...put in the hours...
We just witnessed a variation of the classic Texas holdem called my dad's richer than your dad holdem.
👍 👍 👍
Was sure you'd be like "34o, I don't mind a call, 3bet or fold here."
You do need to mix in some 34s every now and then.
That's beautiful
there is less chance of your opponent having a flush draw because you have it blocked with the four of clubs
The all in was a give away. Should have bet 10k as a value bet.
Red: that is a reason I like to donk all-in when I have the nuts. Lot of people will interpret this as a donk bluff.
*tags player as calling station*
lol
the betting of art looks like a missed draw turned into a bluff. if he was strong he would value bet the river, going all in on a board like that smells of bluff.
Writeous0ne oh I’m so sorry man thats how calling stations think
tagging @@Writeous0ne as calling station
tagging @@tim..indeed as an aggro donk
We all know the best player in that room was taking a nap in the corner
Joshua Darovitz
Ha
You made me laugh today
Naw man, he's just a dog.
That was Dog Polk
*badum tss*
Surely Gal does play a lot with art and knows art is good enough to bluff loads of missed draws and that's what he's doing. Gutsy call still but don't you have to call down against v good players a bit more on draw-heavy turns with bricked rivers?
Instructions unclear. Made myself a millionaire with going allin every time I have 4,3.
Literally just looks like every hand on the WSOP app
You 3 bet?
I’m ALL IN!
Jeff Boski hey Jeff are you good at poker?
All Rin
Sorry to offend you, my b dude.
Lol... imagine if it was Hellmuth, he would have cracked it if he lost an $88K pot to 3's.
@@titmusspaultpaul5 not to pay (unbezahlbar)
I would assume prior knowledge was extremely important in this hand...
I make those calls all the time. Those r ez. My toughest call was with 9 high. The reason you have never heard of me and my god-like calls is because i can't beat 4NL.
M.I Popescu Honestly it's freakin harder than it seems.
@@supremeamine2382 its the same as 2NL just fewer fish. theyre still there though.
@Sofa King What are you even saying?
@@Luigi17891 He's saying if you take a line where it looks like you have a medium strong hand, and get caught bluffing, then you could just take that exact same line every time and get called down.
The lowest hero call was Ten-high by Stu Ungar. He was already in the final table playing heads-up during a tournament and busted the player as he read his mind for a busted draw
I think, at least for me I've found myself in arts shoes many a time before. Completely flabbergasted, wondering how my opponent could have made a series of calls. Only to realize later that it was simply a case of the villain saying to themselves: "I don't believe you, and I have a pair". And that's all it takes. But the good news is that players who make those types of calls, tend to make them frequently. And you can punish them for it.
Trying to bluff calling stations isn't a good strategy, like you said...value town or go home.
@@bradmundies425 the biggest trouble is not realizing you're being stationed until you're in too deep. that shit hurts.
The amount of money I could have saved over the years if I didn't raise preflop, bet bet shove on Axxxx and get called by A2o.
That’s the thing though, Gal is not a calling station. Here he just had a read from the poker gods
Yes and no. I've been sitting at a table with shit hands for like 40 minutes so I go fuck it, I'm playing this crap. Once you get your head around the fact he played 43o, then the rest was played ok. All low cards but the J, and he could be confident no one would be as reckless as him to play low cards so all he had to do was decide if his opponent had a J.... he bet correctly and one an $88K pot. You would have to look at his game for at least 30 min to an hour to see if he really knows how to play. Maybe that's how he won, that was the first bad/ low set of cards he played that evening and his opponent couldn't predict that he would play that hand.... anyway, just a thought. Cheers.
While I’ve never played w gal personally, I have seen him play many sessions on LATB. By math guessing opponents ranges it clearly is not profitable in the long run. Gal does call more frequently than others in tough spots but I wouldn’t consider him a station. He makes many tough lay downs and is a solid player. I’m sure he had a read and feel that art was bluffing, the problem is he even loses to much of arts bluff range.
From the outside looking in the t shirt over his mouth looked a bit suspicious, but easy for me to say.
players who do that do it in every pot theyre in, bluffing or not
The pain on art's face when gal call was priceless
Dude must have had a read, he put him on a flush draw and went with that theory.....Ballz of steel
I'M drunk as fuck. Don't think I could ever make that call.
Read lol dude is just a moron who got lucky. Absolutely atrocious call.
@@scottlarrabee467 You believe he called with 43 with no read? haha!
@@FISHDINHO He just did it in a multiway pot preflop, did it at flop and at turn, why not at river? He just thought he was comited and prayed for him having a bluff.
I think putting him on the flush draw wasnt too unreasonable, also we have no idea how well these players know each other. It looked it was a good read more than a loose call.
Never have I seen more heart in a professional level competitor. Doug Polk: The filmmaker and the artist--end of sentence, end of paragraph, period. While Polk's writing and editing styles might take him places in life, one wonders about the haircut.
dcQ23 Yeah why does he comb it in a faux hawk? Looks stupid.
That's the problem with poker, you can play perfect and still lose. That's how the game works, donkey's can draw out, jokers can make stupid calls and win.
Thats also the thing with poker, there is no right way to play just a smarter way to play.
This wasn't a stupid call. He read the bluff correctly.
Shutup nit
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 It's not a stupid call, it's 4 stupid calls. It's one of the best ways to blow up your money, calling preflop and 3 barrells with 43o.
"...you don't have to continue when you've just got middle pair, worst kicker, and terrible removal..."
@doug We wanna see you play poker again Make poker Fun again
Play Red Dead Redemption 2 Poker!!!! That would be a cool video!
Dalton Weils those bros are out of line
they play like Gal...call everything and never fold. It's quite juicy.
Mark looking like little bish... it was just a comment take it ez chief
Dalton Weils slowest poker simulator ever. And low stakes. Mad gay.
With tha $2.50 nooo
The other players faces when they see the 3,4 haha!
You act like that wasn't a soul read. That was pure instinct and the will to go with the gut feeling. To me there is no greater feeling in this game than an insane against the odds hero call off the live read. As I said, pure.
I must be in the younger demographics of your viewers but... does no one else notice adam22 and pouya casually chilling in the back?!?!?!?!
Yeah they were special guest on the show that week.
Gal is a rough go man. He is tough to play against.
Played deep w him hard rock in Hollywood, it’s not the worst call in the world. Certainly and exploitative one, and gal... per say.... doesn’t like to give up or be exploited... I like it.
Then I'll just exploit that by value betting him light every time. Every deviation from GTO is exploitable
Is it wrong that I don't hate the river call? The call pre flop is the worst. Post flop, if he has decided (correctly in this case) that his opponent is on an Ax flush draw, then the calls on turn and river are also correct. The big error was deciding to play trash in the first place.
Sharon Baines-Jones true that
Yeah this was pretty good play. And after some thought writing it down, seems kinda straight forward unless he has a soul read to fold.
My only take away is what happens ina Situation where art is turning a hand into a bluff that still beats gal lol
Sharon Baines-Jones exactly
Art waited too long to make a bet...timing is key if your gonna bluff
That's basically what I thought as well
HAHAHAHHAAHA - that tshirt... what a stong troll game you have Doug
I don't think he made that those are for sale from live at the bike. Theres one of doug too i think.
First thing I saw when i started the video and loled at work
@@gavinasaurus if you watch a couple vids back he talked about and made fun of the idea that LATB was selling these to begin with.. so seeing him wearing one without mentioning it was a good tongue and cheek laugh for those of us that noticed it.
What's the joke? Who's the guy on the t-shirt?
@@barygol watch this video. ua-cam.com/video/u2msw2IMdvY/v-deo.html the guy on the shirt is a poker player
The WSOP hand with K8s vs 23o where Van Tran hit the river 2 in a 4bet pot. Now THAT was a good hand!
In cash games, you need to recognize calling stations from recreational players. I have seen this a lot. Young Pro's getting called down weak by rec players.
You’re a true dog lover for noticing and mentioning the doggo
wow this video was perfect. really cool to see the improvements you've made in the past few years. cheers doug!
A pair of three has more showdown value nowadays than a pair of aces did 20 years ago.
I think that the term "Hero Call" should now, and forever more be known as a "Hero Gal"!!!
Ha ha..good one!
Gal player this hand like how I used to play when I moved up in stakes and was playing with regs for the first time. I was paranoid that I was always being bluffed, and felt like I had to hold on with any hand whatsoever vs barrels. Then I lost 20 buy ins and adjusted.
It's weird seeing Pouya and Adam22 while I'm enjoying a Polker Hand
Kevin harts k high call was better
but he didn't know it he thought he had a straight
@@mustafaosama2955
r/woosh
@@vivavaldez87 don't woosh me man I get the joke that both is terrible but all I'm saying is this dude know what he was doing Kevin didn't
mustafa osama wooooooooooooooooosh
Hart was trying to give the girl chips. He was trying to donate and he didn’t know she was bluffing
Super glad to see you are still doing poker videos Doug! Always entertaining to watch, thank you for the content!
"Poker strategy is dead." Yes it is when money has no value. lol
I love your sense of humor Doug. This comment at the end after he called, LMAO :D :D :D
This hand cheered me up, been having a crazy day
Hoping it got better bro :)
Number #1 Rule, you MUST KNOW your opponent . Gal, has N E V E R folded a winning hand, in other words he's a " CALLING STATION " LOL...
Wish this was against Hellmuth.
"I'm done with this shit" says everyone at 2am. Back at it tomorrow.
has to be a history between the two. tough to call this on an unknown opponent!
For sure... I did the same once with J high (Call all in on River), but the Guy was a maníac and i mechanize my plays against him to discover the bluff. It worked! BEST Call of my carreer
@@3pau1 my best call was J high also, but as said it wasnt on just a random in which i didnt have hand history with.
@@tyrocksalot yeah It needs history otherwise its just crazy lol
I once called an all in with J high as well. The donkey ended up having 8 high
I like it how everyone's a better player than everyone else, until it comes down to it, including Doug !
UNBELIEVABLE!
“Sure you can say fuck it and call him all the way down with middle pair for thousands of dollars” 😂😂😂 my man...shits comedy.
Gal was thinking “ if he makes a big bet on the river, it’s because it’s his only chance to win “.
I call.
When we see the To OTT vs a player that calls a x/r OTF into 4 players, but more importantly versus Gal specifically, I think we will find a lot of success by checking turn planning to x/c (because I think Gal overfires in these spots) and lead jam river on any card besides an 8 that doesn't pair the board. I don't know if Art has a leading range strategy, so this might not be effective for him. Thoughts?
Yea, I'm curious about checking turn as well
I would peg Gal as stabbing a lot on the turn as well...
That makes me want to bet though and keep the initiative
(Honestly I'm hating life in this spot, I know Gal probably has sick live reads and has a huge ego so he won't give up on a hand easily... probably better to nit up and then trap him going forward)
X/c then fold river is obviously terrible, x/c lead could be good
What about x/r all-in? Then overbet if he checks back on turn
Or what about 3x pot jam turn 😂
@Doug Polk Poker
This spot actually comes up a lot where I get to the turn against a sticky and aggressive opponent (read massive ego) with a big draw and I feel intuitively like they aren't going to fold, but check calling sucks too... how do you normally navigate this spot (from adjustment/exploit perspective)
Edit: to clarify, mainly live games, sometimes online games against an opponent (who I havea fair amount of history) that is not really a classical recreational player, they are thinking about the game (I would put Gal into this bucket) but no theoretical basis or discipline to their game, just street poker... I really don't want to bet, bet against them cuz they will call with bottom pair if they sense anything, if I check call then my redline will get whacked when I don't hit... betting turn then giving up river is bad for redline too...
I love it. Teach all of these overanalyzing “poker teachers” that sometimes, you put your opponent on a draw and dont think theyve got it. Betting bricks even helps you think that. Especially a river all-in. I used to wonder why i was getting called on my river all-ins all the time. But turns out i showed weakness and it helped them make hero calls. At the end of the day, it is still gambling.
Sure it is gambling but you are making thousands of bets not just one. I would explain it to you more but you seem to far gone. Would love to play cards with you.
Funny thing about poker, if this was a big name like Dwan or Ivy in this same position, this would be considered a ultra hero call.
funny thing is you think any big name player would be in this position. lol he has 4 3 off.
Imagine if that Vanessa guy had the Ace 8. He would’ve been so pissed!
his eyes would glaze over and he would begin muttering to himself, “4-3o is a fold pre... it’s a fold pre... he can’t have that hand... it’s a fold on the turn.... it’s not possible...” and he would sink into madness only to ripped back to reality by his fohawk stylist, who is of course his life coach.
Haha
The commentary during the hand is actually pretty good. It's not often the case so I wanted to point it out. Love from France Polker hands! Nh tho
I've been trying to pinpoint the moment he's contacted by Mike Postle. Anyone else? Unbelievable call without a single crotch stare.
Telepathy
I think it was also live @ at the bike where someone called 9/2 offsuit all in pre-flop. cold. he wasn't bluffing or anything. he just called off like 30k pre-flop cold all-in. with 9/2 off.
"Poker strategy is dead, click some buttons, maybe you win, you'll win 90k pots on tv.." lmao
Your ending was hilarious ,😂😂😭
I'm wondering how much playing the player factored in. I'm guessing a lot.
Analysis:
“Sometimes he has a hand that beats you. Sometimes he has a hand that’s worse than you. I like a call, but be sure to mix in some folds and raises to your calls. Cause sometimes you’re gonna be beat and sometimes you’re gonna have the best hand.”
Nate Drexler Lol
Doug is probably missing about how well Gal knows his opponent. They could be playing each other every day and Gal might exactly put his opponent on this kind of a hand as Art could be one of those players who always raise a flush draw the same way every other day. Polarizing the hand on the river ofcourse made the call a bit easier as it's then 50 -50. Busted draw or a monster hand like 77. The only issue is ofcourse investing $300 on this hand preflop. Once the raise came on that flop it's never a 2 pair hand on that board texture. It's either a set or draw or over pair. All over pairs are ruled out on the way the hand was polarized on the river. So it's 77 or 22 with Gal blocking 33. Well it boils down what normally Art will do with a set on the river. Will he bet 2/3 of the pot or full pot or will he polarize the hand like this for max value ? I would have made that call against certain players I'm playing with and folding against many.
I think this comment makes sense (I also make a similar comment above). Polarizing bet on the river was questionable. A smaller bet (say, half pot) helps also cover some some hands which were initially draws but got there (say J9cc or T9cc or 89cc or J8cc) or overcards like QJ or QT.
Once you invest $300, you're pot-committed for another $40k?
This is why you expand your linear value range and shove Jxcc and Txcc on the river as well.
Doug "Lord of the Thumbnail" Polk
43o is the new A5s which was the new AK
0:39 "...everyone exited to jump in except for the dog takin a nap in the corner..."
Imagine the dog would also jump in yelling "all out" pooping on the table.... :-)
Mate all the episodes of high stakes poker are now on youtube, can you do some hands from them?
Pro tip: when the player next to you plays like he knows your exact hand look at your hole cards more carefully! Also value: 77,33,22,98cc,98ss=9, hands Art might always play this way: A9cc, A8cc, A6cc,A5cc,A2cc,54cc,54ss,54dd,54hh=9.... seems Art might be overbluffing river
LOL i was starting to really like Doug;s strategy talks lately but this one goes back to his earlier videos where he basically thinks poker is pure math and very little about game theory, line sizing, body lanaguage etc should be taken in to account. I think live poker is night and day compared to 8 tabling NL online. players play way differently. they try to force things more because they see a lot less hands per hour.
@Stang5.0 killsya there are times I want to believe online has worse beats or a DOOM switch if you want.. but i've played years and years of live and online poker. and i've had such bad beats live that i run the hand in a holdem calculator only to find out that my opponent had less than 1 % chance to win. but they got there and went perfect / perfect on turn and river.. so it can happen.
@Stang5.0 killsya I know we all feel a bit iffy when an unbelievable run out cracks our AAs yet again. Hence, a lot of people feeling online can't be trusted. But, I think it has more to do with anonymity than some sort of statistical anomaly.
I preferred live over online even before they banned it in Australia, because people didn't do a total -EV weird shit in live setting. The embarrassment factor would simply be too great. And having to travel physically to a place, people don't want to risk their entire tournament or the daily bankroll on a 74o. But, people do online.
If you entered the pot with three all-ins in front of you with K2o and won, in a live setting, people will continue to look at you like you're the biggest moron. And they'll eventually take advantage of that over the session. Online, people can just call with anything. If they suck out on someone big time, they can just pump fist in their room, feel good about cracking a set of AAs with 73o on A94 flop.
With tournaments, no one wants to travel to wherever they need to go, buy-in to a tournament, go all-in pre-flop with J4o, bust and go back home. Online, you can do that and just move onto the next tournament.
I didn't play much cash-games online. Played low to mid-stakes tournaments before it got banned. I had to adjust my game to narrowing my raising and calling range to top 5% in the earlier stages of the tournaments because of the above factors.
@Stang5.0 killsya I don't know if the random number generators are legit or not, but don't make a judgment based on your memory of hands. The extraordinary events will stand out while the expected ones will fade. With so many more hands played online, you'll have a larger number of unexpected events that stand out in your memory from playing online compared to live. Unless you've actually tracked every hand and run the numbers on each one, over the course of thousands of hands, you can't really draw a reliable conclusion.
@Stang5.0 killsya Well it doesn't really make sense for a conclusion to be reliable "to you". It's either reliable or it isn't. You can go ahead and draw the conclusion knowing it's not based on fact if you want to of course.
You are Spot on.
There's no analysis needed. Gal is simply not here to play poker. He's only here to throw some money around for entertainment. Not everyone playing poker is playing to win. Gal isn't trying to win money from poker, he's here for a bit of fun.
DUDE! 34O IS A PREMIUM HAND BRO
‘Okay that’s it guys there goes strategy click whatever u want I’m done with this shit’
LMAO fuckin HILARIOUS 😂😂
Why would you raise quickly the flop, bet the turn quickly, then take time on river only to shove it? If you have a good hand and vilain is calling you that quickly behind you wouldn't stop all that time for that all in on the river.
Online play WILL NEVER be like live play.
Is that a "tell" that the A8s cover his mouth with his t-shirt like he's hiding something? lol
That’s so true his body language was pretty strange like he was going for a draw and then on the River, Gal figured he didn’t hit it and donk bluffed so he snap called. Balls of steel to do it w just pair of 3’s!
LudaChris!
Haven't watched in a while... glad to see you're still the man
He had to have had a great read on that flush draw. HAD to have.
He put him on a hand containing AKQ given the line, table dynamic, game history. Stuck to his guns on every street. Flush didn't come in. Called it down when mortals would have discarded original intuition. I saw this live streamed about a month or so back on LATB and as you can imagine, the text chat exploded at showdown.
Right there, He didnt need statistics or math. He went with his instinct
Doug with you teach me how to profitably call an early position raise with 43o on the bottom? I think I got what it takes to play like Gal does and call someone down when his draw bricked with 4th pair no kicker.
You're lying to yourself Doug. Raise, fold or call has always been the best move. Yet when Gal pulls off a some next level balancing and call with 43o, you bash him for it. Honestly, I think you're just jealous because he's more GTO than you. Step up your game.
Yes. This video sucked
what does GTO mean?
@@yellow95111 stands for game theory optimal..... it's a term that some guys throw around in an attempt to sound smart.....
@@yellow95111 but don't worry about that....instead, concentrate on Arts pre flop action. He flat called into a four way pot in early position. What does that mean? What could his range possibly be? And then he check raises on the flop....that story makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. What could he possibly be representing? You just go over it in your head and you'll figure out it was a pretty obvious bluff....
@@yellow95111 the only problem with the call down.....and someone mentioned it earlier in the thread....is that Gal actually loses to a fair amount or Arts bluffs....
I know we can see the cards but art looks really nervous after he want all in on the river.
Poker 2019:
Player makes a sick call
" mathematical poker player": what a bad call
This crap happens all the time at my house games. Letting people come over to play has honestly lowered my poker skills
Look at the river and Art's body language. Joe Navarro book would tell you this is a bluff. his hand being so perfectly still in what appears to be a very rigid weird position. He looks tense. Not comfortable .This is often a sign of weakness.
What u r saying makes sense but, after reading ur comment i went back to check and the thing is that Art doesn't move at all between the turn and the river, he simply does not change his position throughout the hand so that wouldnt be a tell
@@lucazapatero824 you're half correct. Go back and watch the preflop action. his hand is relaxed. similar position but relaxed. Then watch after the flop. Relaxed still while he holds close to his cards. Once he check his hand stiffens up. He knows he's going to check/raise any bet here. His body is already getting tight because his heart rate is increasing. he's not comfortable because he knows he probably needs to catch a card in this hand. So his rigid hand pattern begins when he starts to semi-bluff / bluff.
@@lucazapatero824 found this hand from the same game.
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Just watch closely. its subtle. but its there. When Art has a good hand and isnt betting but calling. his hand position is similar but its relaxed. Its sitting flatter, thumb is in. when he was blufffing on the A8 hand. his hand was rigid.. thumb flexed out. difficult to hold this position for a very long time. his body is tense. These live at the bike games could tell some players a lot of info if they studied closely. lol
Yes I agree he looks tense.
i've made quite similar calls... alot of players will not check a set in a 5 way pot where alot of draws are possible, you don't have position, and if you don't bet it's quite likely you're not gonna get any information out of your oponents on that flop, which makes those draws very dangerous. so assuming they've been playing against each other for a while now, i guess gal had already gotten some info on his oponent, whom might be one of the players who think so (i do to btw). so if no set, he's just going to have a draw alot of the time. turn and river each come higher than the board, not completing any draws, so when your oponent keeps betting, it's likely he didn't hit them. if you do hit one of those cards, you're gonne want to check because you now do have showdown value, and you'll rarely be called by a worse hand if you do bet. therefore, on the river, it is very reasonable to think art just 3 barrel bluffed a fushdraw.
Gal has played with art a shit tonne and he knows how he plays. I don't see this as surprising. You gotta make the call or you lose every hand
His call is actually quite accurate.
It is funny that no one realized why he called. I am so surprised.
Agreed. Look at when Art started betting. When there was 7-2-3 on the board. Not likely that he's holding either of those cards. And also not likely that he's holding a random T or J. The betting pattern just didn't fit the board. And the All-in was totally polarized. Given the fact that Art's betting pattern didn't make any sense. A bluff was absolutely the most likely solution to this, making the call with a pair of 3s potentially profitable, because Art is bluffing more often than not here.
Craziest call you've ever seen??
He made a great read on his opponent for a busted flush draw. Well played, Next.
I have a few friends with whom I play for a few bucks... And Im being ridiciouled by those idiots and called down with trash. But as soon you raise the blinds they immediately stop playing calling station... But this guy calls people down with 34 for a living 😂
“Poker strategy is dead.” 😂😂😂
Lmao Adam22 wtf!!!!
zachary tuccillo I know right !!??? I was looking for this comment .😂😂
and Pouya!!
Adam clout chasing all over youtube
scott loong I know I’m (very) late, but I’m pretty sure Adam used to play poker as virtually his job when he was young so not clout chasing
He had to wash some chips anyways
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"Poker strategy is dead. Click some buttons. Maybe you'll win." hahahaha
No homo but Gal is a good poker player
I went all in pre flop with pocket aces in middle position. Someone in late position called me and then someone in early position called me.
The girl in early position won it all...with a full house...2s full of 3s. She called me with Jack 2 off suit...so I guess j2 offsuit is playable now lol.
The clickbaitiest title I've ever seen
I give the guy props. The ultimate hero call.
I called someone online with 10 high recently. I put him on a bunch of missed gutshots and an open ender (which he definitely had most combos cause of his playstyle), and turns out I was right, missed gutshot. I'm pretty awesome, am I right guys?
“You can have three deuce off suit because why the fuck not” hahah
You'll make a lot of money in poker tournaments if you can read your opponent and see that they think to themselves, "the only way I'm winning this pot is if I bet the river". Look for busted flush draws and straight draws as a clue.
Doug needs to give up this game. There’s a new generation coming. 🤣