2 years since this was uploaded & Ivey is up an additional 10mil playing against the best current players. Think he has adapted better than you guys expected to the modern game.
2:36:45 - Absolutely spot on. There are numerous Players that _”have an argument”_ for being “The Greatest Player of All Time”… *_Phil Ivey_*_ is ALL of those arguments._
Doug: Phil ivey’s numbers will continue to dwindle Since this aired Phil has had 2 1st place finishes and 1 2nd place finish, and has won almost $3m. Good call, Doug.
“I don’t think Lebron James will be the Best Player in the NBA when he’s 84 years old”… “Some Athletes seem to be negatively affected by the Aging Process”. - Hot takes from Doug Polk
Yea i agree with Kane about amateurs being uncomfortable playing with stephen chidwick bc of his presence, im an amateur and im uncomfortable just watching him on tv, ive never seen him say a word or make a movement at the table except to bet or collect chips. He is the definition of the type of player that will drop tv ratings.
Since this video was posted(March 2022), Phil Ivey has made 32 Final Tables, won at least 6 trophies and won one WSOP Bracelet, and added $16M to his career earnings according to Hendon Mob...which of the rest of these players has anything close?
I feel like the world was robbed of Stu Ungars brilliance as he was so good at cards and people were so afraid of him they wouldn't even play him in gin rummy. One year he amassed such a big chip in the main event that he didn't even compete in the last few days and blinded out 9th place. If he had lived another decade we could have seen his approach to the game with the hole card cams and some of the moves he was able to make against the best players in the biggest tournaments.
@@dkizxpt-su3ze probably greatest of his era in tournaments, he apparently wasn't great at cash games though, but I'm not sure if anyone really knows that except by word of mouth from other players
Totally agree. Wish we could have seen him play today. I believe he would have adapted to the new times and had an incredible edge already and with knowing the math of the game would have helped him pin down his opponents even more. In the sense that he would have known even more how others play and really narrow down their hands to one or 2 hands that they could have
It’s just very tragic that his life style was so horrible, mby if he got to play more we would see if he was actually consistent but sadly the world will never know
The best players as far as skill in cash or Tourney NL are as followed: . Adelstien, Katz,Haxton, Polk, Negs, Ivey, Antonious, Koon, Petrangelo, Chidwhick, Little, LuckyChewy, Robl, Bryn, Kim, Chan, Mateos, Holz, Colman, Cates, Trueteller, Seidel, Ausmus, Mercier, Jaffe, Hellmuth, Seiver. All are great in their own way and at specific things but I think all these guys are the most skilled players to play the game and the smartest
My favourite two are Tony G and The Devil Fish but what do I know. I just loved them slagging each other off at the table. They even made Phil Helmuth seem like a good sport 😊
I feel like Doug kept on hammering this "famous idols of poker get this advantage that helps them in large field poker tournaments" was frustrating because it is hard to quantify, and I was very happy to hear Kane Kalas push back on that effectively. It felt like he was discrediting a lot of the players from the older players because of this fact. Even if Ivey stopped playing poker for the rest of his life, his resume is unimpeachable.
Hi mr Polk, Off course this is a crap shoot. Never the less i enyod this conversation so much. Thanks for the entertaiment. I have been following you for years and i can say its great to have you as an ambassadeur for poker. I am a losing pokerplayer at 1/2 yes 1 and two euros😂 but i have my uptics. Its just disposable income so yeah a fish (reg player 😅😅). I appreciated you taking on negreanu for his faults and the things he has done wrong. And sause oh yes i cant even follow his train of taughts there just shy man who cant contribute to society with the gifts thank god for poker
I think the net was cast too broadly here. The premise is basically “greatest athlete” but the games are wildly different. Holz is a great example. Tournaments are distance races, MTTs are middle distance races and cash is a series of sprints. Hold em is an entirely different game than basically everything else with only PLO being relatable. At the end of the day it’s probably Ivey, Ungar, and Reese (probably Brunson too) in one category and everyone else is kind of a specialist or decent. It looks like Siever might break through to the top tier.
they keep saying "is blah blah the best of all time. Its not the "whos the best player in the world" which is an impossible question to answer. Its a top 20 lists. To ask who is the most feared would be closer, then it could be an easy top 10 or even 5. To me Its Ivey, ungar is great but small sample in a weaker feild than today. Stu had uncanny abilities like Hellmuth or Ivey. Now if Stu was around these days its easily a solid yes or no. Not many scare players like ivey so if its fear its Ivey for me, but Stu is damn close too
Jungleman has said before that he thinks Matt Ashton is the best poker player of all time, so the fact that some other notable players also have him up there shows how big of a factor name recognition is (he was #99). Nobody respects the mixed games lol
While I don't like Helmuth on a personality level (man-baby, truly), you absolutely have to give credit for his ability to maintain a high level of play over time. People burnout on poker because of the variance and because it's simply extremely difficult to keep that same level of WILL to play and to remain competitive when you've already "made it" and are financially secure from your winnings. Helmuth probably *is* the leader, or at least among the leaders, of total WSOP events entered, but that he's also WON the most bracelets justifies his place on this list. There are many more bracelets available to win now and the fact he's STILL the leader is something to be respected.
No, the old leaders will likely never be beat because the fields are too big these days. It's too hard to win a bracelet these days even if you're the best in the world, so it's not surprising his record stands.
@@jasonmaguire7552 The fields have expanded, true, but so has the number of bracelets. And Helmuth is *still* winning bracelets in those expanded fields. It's remarkable.
Doug Just an idea, but with reference to Stu Ungar I don't know if you know but there is a 'World series of Gin Rummy' in Vegas beginning of June - maybe you should enter and try and win?! Gin Rummy is not that complex a game - with your poker learning skills you could get a handle on it very quickly and have a great shot at the prize, and the competition itself seems quite small and not that competitive. Good for content?! Best
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Doug needs games that ARE complex. If it's not too complex, it's too hard to have an edge. Doug's bread and butter was heads up no limit, an extremely complex ultracompetitve game.
Feel Dwan doesn't get the credit here in terms of cash games. He is an icon of poker. Let's take a look at his achievements that we know of his live TV cash games. - Held the biggest cash game pot against Greenstein; Close to 1 million. - Beat his own TV record against Ivey - winning a $1million pot. - All time high stakes poker winner - biggest poker after dark winner - 3.1 million dollar pot won on live TV - let's not act like that wasn't a great call. Even Doug said he'd fold. Don't think you can achieve this without being a top 5 cash game player. Your thoughts Polk?
I def feel like there's an overall lack of recognition for the super elite mtt players, including those who have transitioned into live poker. Someone like Michael Addamo wasn't mentioned despite slicing through the toughest fields on the planet for years and having four bracelets at 27yo as a pure nlh specialist. Same goes for the other top online guys, Lena, European...
Ivey was best for the longest period of time when success earned from talent.I m pretty sure that 1)If Ivey was motivated at the time that solvers was born probably still would be top 10 2)Ivey isn't a "spot" at live tables in any game,online would loose probably about 8-9bb/100 against the end bosses.
I think we have to be careful about recency bias when it comes to constructing "Greatest of All-Time" lists. While it's a huge disadvantage to us that we can't view hands of the past masters, what should count heavily in the "Greatest of All-Time" list placement is people who have done well, against the best competition, for an extended period of time. A guy who's very good for a few years and then drops out of the game is not going to get as much credit from me as a guy who maybe didn't match the peak of the first guy, but has been able to sustain his success for a longer period of time. That doesn't mean every leather-assed grinder can be considered, however; you still need to be near the best at least in order to really be considered. Let's see if some of these younger, more recently successful players, with not that many years in the game, can SUSTAIN their level of play over a decade or two. Then, MAYBE, they can enter the consideration for "Greatest of All-Time".
@@jasonmaguire7552 I don't think the players were worse back in the day. That's cope. There were fewer of them, sure, but there was also less poker being played in general, which means the total prize pool was much smaller and it was harder to make a living off it. Your general point has merit for those players who faded away as the game expanded, but Helmuth won then and he wins now. He deserves his flowers for spanning eras.
From everything i have listened to and read about stu ungar i completely disagree w Kane. You cant trust one source, who he doesnt even name btw, that is talking badly about a player. Also, phil ivey was asked if he could play poker against anyone in history who would it be and he said stu, that speaks volumes. Stu was a child prodigy, his biography, One of a Kind, is a fascinating read.
Nope. Easy near the top. He was the best player in the hardest format for years, and won three bracelets with very few wsop entries, can sit with elite live cash players etc.
@@jasonmaguire7552 for years is such a hilarious statement given that everyone else on the list is a cross generational player keeping up with wave after wave of new talent, adapting to the way the game evolved. Not too much mention all their live cash and tourney victories. Polk doesnt deserve to tie their shoe laces
Haha Johnny Moss or Tony G not in the list but some internet robots milking some newbs? Negreanu considered to be the best? Is this a joke? In my opinion, Phil Hellmuth and Phil Ivey are lightyears ahead of the rest based on their results and their next level approach to the game no else gets.
I haven't got to that part of the video yet... But I agree with you. He's a smart man but his brain goes 9 million miles a hour... I don't think that he would be able to sit there that long without inviting something... anything while there. Lmao 🤣😂🤣
Sure he would, and dougs point is that people are keen to bust a hig celebrity which would give musk thr chance to win easy all ins and vuild a big stack. The point isn't that he would necessarily do well, its that he would do better than someone equally skilled but not famous on average.
Of course a bunch of online guys are going to consider online the ultimate poker forum.. I disagree. Online takes out so many factors of the game. You don’t need a poker face, you don’t look for tells.. you can jump up and down when you have the nuts online and nobody knows. Online poker is just different. It’s like saying that because you can win an online car race against the best in the world in a NASCAR simulator, you’re the best race car driver in the world. Live poker results trump online results all day every day. And to act like the older players weren’t as good because they don’t use GTO.. remember, they were literally trying to think while they had a gun in their hand and legitimately prepared to be robbed at any minute. Playing in your underwear where no one can see you affords you luxuries they did not have.
This is nonsense. Online poker is real poker and the volume of hands allows real skill to be judged. People run hot in a live tournament and dummies like you think it proves anything.
Polk is definitely wrong about peak LeBron vs. peak Jordan. Peak LeBron was taking shoe clerks and bus drivers to the NBA finals at his peak, Jordan didn’t do it, and I don’t think he could have. Also, NBA rules favoring Jordan’s style of play were in effect during his peak, it’s a little unfair to put it this way, but in a sense he was playing on easy mode. It’s not like Jordan’s a chump, but the top 5 in NBA history is so close it’s an almost impossible argument.
@@jasonmaguire7552 by who? Anthony Mason and Rodman would be able to get to him I guess, but no one else comes to mind. Hell, let Cleveland draft him in ‘91 and they might dominate the league.
Will never trust a computer to deal cards right they can never figure out the algorithms so I don't look at that like I do live poker and skill play everybody knows how bad that computer can just brutally beat you when you're so far ahead of the hand and next thing you know it gives it the turn River and gives them everything online poker I've never seen so many hands hit flushes it flushes more than my toilet does
Nope. This is nonsense. You wimpy play orders of magnitude more hands online so you get more bad beats overall. I trust a computer program more than I do manual shuffling.
I think the net was cast too broadly here. The premise is basically “greatest athlete” but the games are wildly different. Holz is a great example. Tournaments are distance races, MTTs are middle distance races and cash is a series of sprints. Hold em is an entirely different game than basically everything else with only PLO being relatable. At the end of the day it’s probably Ivey, Ungar, and Reese (probably Brunson too) in one category and everyone else is kind of a specialist or decent. It looks like Siever and Cates might break through to the top tier.
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Need Add On Sauce . . . 😎
2 years since this was uploaded & Ivey is up an additional 10mil playing against the best current players. Think he has adapted better than you guys expected to the modern game.
Mike Postle at Number 1!!!
crutch optimal theory for the win 100|%
Technically he was the best ever.
The GOAT HIMSELF! Unbeatable
@@santaclause3487technically you're g__
I used to watch that guy on this stream called, "Stones casino live" .. he was a legit monster.
2:36:45 - Absolutely spot on.
There are numerous Players that _”have an argument”_ for being “The Greatest Player of All Time”…
*_Phil Ivey_*_ is ALL of those arguments._
Doug: Phil ivey’s numbers will continue to dwindle
Since this aired Phil has had 2 1st place finishes and 1 2nd place finish, and has won almost $3m.
Good call, Doug.
“I don’t think Lebron James will be the Best Player in the NBA when he’s 84 years old”…
“Some Athletes seem to be negatively affected by the Aging Process”.
- Hot takes from Doug Polk
He didn't get any of that money
“Since this aired Phil has won almost $3m”;
Since this comment from 6 months ago:
Ivey’s won $5 Million, and his 11th Bracelet.
this is bizarre to watch, Ivey crushed triton 2022 but Doug trying to make his tournement game sound like hellmuth
Who’s here after Ivey won his 11th WSOP bracelet.
Yea i agree with Kane about amateurs being uncomfortable playing with stephen chidwick bc of his presence, im an amateur and im uncomfortable just watching him on tv, ive never seen him say a word or make a movement at the table except to bet or collect chips. He is the definition of the type of player that will drop tv ratings.
Since this video was posted(March 2022), Phil Ivey has made 32 Final Tables, won at least 6 trophies and won one WSOP Bracelet, and added $16M to his career earnings according to Hendon Mob...which of the rest of these players has anything close?
The arguments against Ivey are the stretchiest stretches I’ve ever heard in an effort to play devil’s advocate
I feel like the world was robbed of Stu Ungars brilliance as he was so good at cards and people were so afraid of him they wouldn't even play him in gin rummy. One year he amassed such a big chip in the main event that he didn't even compete in the last few days and blinded out 9th place. If he had lived another decade we could have seen his approach to the game with the hole card cams and some of the moves he was able to make against the best players in the biggest tournaments.
Ungar is the greatest of all-time
@@dkizxpt-su3ze probably greatest of his era in tournaments, he apparently wasn't great at cash games though, but I'm not sure if anyone really knows that except by word of mouth from other players
Totally agree. Wish we could have seen him play today. I believe he would have adapted to the new times and had an incredible edge already and with knowing the math of the game would have helped him pin down his opponents even more. In the sense that he would have known even more how others play and really narrow down their hands to one or 2 hands that they could have
It’s just very tragic that his life style was so horrible, mby if he got to play more we would see if he was actually consistent but sadly the world will never know
@@dkizxpt-su3zepostle is way better
R.I.P. ❤ Mr. Doyle Brunson 🎉
Damn I didn't know he passed.
exatcly what i wrote
The best players as far as skill in cash or Tourney NL are as followed: . Adelstien, Katz,Haxton, Polk, Negs, Ivey, Antonious, Koon, Petrangelo, Chidwhick, Little, LuckyChewy, Robl, Bryn, Kim, Chan, Mateos, Holz, Colman, Cates, Trueteller, Seidel, Ausmus, Mercier, Jaffe, Hellmuth, Seiver. All are great in their own way and at specific things but I think all these guys are the most skilled players to play the game and the smartest
My favourite two are Tony G and The Devil Fish but what do I know. I just loved them slagging each other off at the table. They even made Phil Helmuth seem like a good sport 😊
Why was the original video taken down?
I feel like Doug kept on hammering this "famous idols of poker get this advantage that helps them in large field poker tournaments" was frustrating because it is hard to quantify, and I was very happy to hear Kane Kalas push back on that effectively. It felt like he was discrediting a lot of the players from the older players because of this fact. Even if Ivey stopped playing poker for the rest of his life, his resume is unimpeachable.
It’s hard to quantify but it is without a doubt a factor
He didn't push back on it effectively, he literally said that elon musk is better at poker because he's famous lol ridiculous
Doug your spot on we don’t give a shit about mixed games. NL Texas hold em cash and tourney players is what matters
Hi mr Polk,
Off course this is a crap shoot. Never the less i enyod this conversation so much. Thanks for the entertaiment. I have been following you for years and i can say its great to have you as an ambassadeur for poker. I am a losing pokerplayer at 1/2 yes 1 and two euros😂 but i have my uptics. Its just disposable income so yeah a fish (reg player 😅😅). I appreciated you taking on negreanu for his faults and the things he has done wrong. And sause oh yes i cant even follow his train of taughts there just shy man who cant contribute to society with the gifts thank god for poker
I think the net was cast too broadly here. The premise is basically “greatest athlete” but the games are wildly different. Holz is a great example. Tournaments are distance races, MTTs are middle distance races and cash is a series of sprints. Hold em is an entirely different game than basically everything else with only PLO being relatable.
At the end of the day it’s probably Ivey, Ungar, and Reese (probably Brunson too) in one category and everyone else is kind of a specialist or decent. It looks like Siever might break through to the top tier.
they keep saying "is blah blah the best of all time. Its not the "whos the best player in the world" which is an impossible question to answer. Its a top 20 lists. To ask who is the most feared would be closer, then it could be an easy top 10 or even 5. To me Its Ivey, ungar is great but small sample in a weaker feild than today. Stu had uncanny abilities like Hellmuth or Ivey. Now if Stu was around these days its easily a solid yes or no. Not many scare players like ivey so if its fear its Ivey for me, but Stu is damn close too
Jungleman has said before that he thinks Matt Ashton is the best poker player of all time, so the fact that some other notable players also have him up there shows how big of a factor name recognition is (he was #99). Nobody respects the mixed games lol
While I don't like Helmuth on a personality level (man-baby, truly), you absolutely have to give credit for his ability to maintain a high level of play over time. People burnout on poker because of the variance and because it's simply extremely difficult to keep that same level of WILL to play and to remain competitive when you've already "made it" and are financially secure from your winnings. Helmuth probably *is* the leader, or at least among the leaders, of total WSOP events entered, but that he's also WON the most bracelets justifies his place on this list. There are many more bracelets available to win now and the fact he's STILL the leader is something to be respected.
No, the old leaders will likely never be beat because the fields are too big these days. It's too hard to win a bracelet these days even if you're the best in the world, so it's not surprising his record stands.
@@jasonmaguire7552 The fields have expanded, true, but so has the number of bracelets. And Helmuth is *still* winning bracelets in those expanded fields. It's remarkable.
Doug
Just an idea, but with reference to Stu Ungar I don't know if you know but there is a 'World series of Gin Rummy' in Vegas beginning of June - maybe you should enter and try and win?!
Gin Rummy is not that complex a game - with your poker learning skills you could get a handle on it very quickly and have a great shot at the prize, and the competition itself seems quite small and not that competitive.
Good for content?!
Best
Doug needs games that ARE complex. If it's not too complex, it's too hard to have an edge. Doug's bread and butter was heads up no limit, an extremely complex ultracompetitve game.
Eric Seidels stats card: Won 10k high roller online
Kane Kalas: He dOeSn'T hAvE aNy nOtaBlE oNLinE ReSuLtS
Berri Sweet could be the best PLO and NLH Holdem player ever. Why's he not on the list. He's been beating Linus
could you reupload the uri podcast
Why are missed flush draws good calling hands? [35mins in]
What about Addamo?
I can't believe they don't have Allen Kessler on this list...
The chainsaw is the best mincasher in history. 😂😂
Feel Dwan doesn't get the credit here in terms of cash games. He is an icon of poker. Let's take a look at his achievements that we know of his live TV cash games.
- Held the biggest cash game pot against Greenstein; Close to 1 million.
- Beat his own TV record against Ivey - winning a $1million pot.
- All time high stakes poker winner
- biggest poker after dark winner
- 3.1 million dollar pot won on live TV - let's not act like that wasn't a great call. Even Doug said he'd fold.
Don't think you can achieve this without being a top 5 cash game player.
Your thoughts Polk?
Is this why Dwan is in debt to lots of others in the poker community
@michaelsweaney3890 right but none of this info was public at the time I wrote it..........
Good to see Vanessa Selbst made the list!
I def feel like there's an overall lack of recognition for the super elite mtt players, including those who have transitioned into live poker. Someone like Michael Addamo wasn't mentioned despite slicing through the toughest fields on the planet for years and having four bracelets at 27yo as a pure nlh specialist. Same goes for the other top online guys, Lena, European...
It’s just for fun.
cept Addamo is down huge on GG poker cash games.
Do u really left chuck Norris outta the list?
Chuck Norris plays Poker.
No one plays Chuck Norris.
This reminds me of an old video that you did
So what was the self help book ? Tony Robbins prob . Thats a great story
Ivey was best for the longest period of time when success earned from talent.I m pretty sure that 1)If Ivey was motivated at the time that solvers was born probably still would be top 10 2)Ivey isn't a "spot" at live tables in any game,online would loose probably about 8-9bb/100 against the end bosses.
Ivey can still crush anyone you fool
@@dkizxpt-su3ze am i fool or you are long time looser?
@JohnSmith-su3ze there's no chance Ivey is a winning player online over a sufficient sample size, definitely not in no limit
where's Mike Dentale the rock head?🤣
I loved when they roasted Doug Polk
I think we have to be careful about recency bias when it comes to constructing "Greatest of All-Time" lists. While it's a huge disadvantage to us that we can't view hands of the past masters, what should count heavily in the "Greatest of All-Time" list placement is people who have done well, against the best competition, for an extended period of time. A guy who's very good for a few years and then drops out of the game is not going to get as much credit from me as a guy who maybe didn't match the peak of the first guy, but has been able to sustain his success for a longer period of time. That doesn't mean every leather-assed grinder can be considered, however; you still need to be near the best at least in order to really be considered.
Let's see if some of these younger, more recently successful players, with not that many years in the game, can SUSTAIN their level of play over a decade or two. Then, MAYBE, they can enter the consideration for "Greatest of All-Time".
The older players had worse competition. There were far fewer poker pros back then, which means far fewer brilliant people becoming pros.
@@jasonmaguire7552 I don't think the players were worse back in the day. That's cope. There were fewer of them, sure, but there was also less poker being played in general, which means the total prize pool was much smaller and it was harder to make a living off it.
Your general point has merit for those players who faded away as the game expanded, but Helmuth won then and he wins now. He deserves his flowers for spanning eras.
From everything i have listened to and read about stu ungar i completely disagree w Kane. You cant trust one source, who he doesnt even name btw, that is talking badly about a player. Also, phil ivey was asked if he could play poker against anyone in history who would it be and he said stu, that speaks volumes. Stu was a child prodigy, his biography, One of a Kind, is a fascinating read.
Why don't all time earnings figure more highly? Wouldn't Bonomo be number 1 or close to it?
Because not super relevant without comparing to buyins.
Kane Kalas is basically a giant logical fallacy.
the late doyle brunson rip
Patrik Antonius has no wsop bracelets
where is Matt berkey
Ranked 7,793 in the world
Without Sauce Cray . . . 😎
Doug Polk in the top 20 is absolutely ridicolous.
Nope. Easy near the top. He was the best player in the hardest format for years, and won three bracelets with very few wsop entries, can sit with elite live cash players etc.
@@jasonmaguire7552 for years is such a hilarious statement given that everyone else on the list is a cross generational player keeping up with wave after wave of new talent, adapting to the way the game evolved. Not too much mention all their live cash and tourney victories. Polk doesnt deserve to tie their shoe laces
Ask phil ivey he is 1 of the best now & then + i would bet a c-note that he would say chip reese
do you mean the 2nd best? cause you're the best :)
Doug played againt Dwan and Dwan took all his money. So Doug...
When? On a few hands in a full ring cash game?
hello, Doug
Haha Johnny Moss or Tony G not in the list but some internet robots milking some newbs? Negreanu considered to be the best? Is this a joke? In my opinion, Phil Hellmuth and Phil Ivey are lightyears ahead of the rest based on their results and their next level approach to the game no else gets.
Doyle has made more money from poker than anyone else. Way more than Bilzerian.
😂
@@Balazs-Kodmen Doyle made at least $200 million from playing poker
He was making $1 million a month back in the 70s
@@dkizxpt-su3zeand who knows how much he made without a single person knowing besides the person who lost behind closed doors.
@@dawnkeener9836 Doyle was making a million a month during the 70s
Doyle probably made as much as $200 million from poker during his lifetime
@JohnSmith-su3ze almost certainly not true and no way of verifying it.
Hellmuth, Chan and Polk being on here is a joke lmao
Although Polk isn't near top 20 GOATS of poker, it is pretty sick to be considered the greatest HUNL player of all time.
@@michaelphan6228 Polk was the best for 2-3 years in total. Not sure that qualifies as 'all-time'
@michaelphan6228 no one considers him that lol
@@chazzbranigaan9354 they absolutely considered him the best in the world and one of the best of all time
Stu!!!
what about jason mercia id put him up there better than viktor blom id of thought esp live
Mercier SUCKS lol
Never been an elite player
Where do I fall
Kane is still asking " right? " in every other word till this day ffs 🤦♂
Meg Tilly is No.1 .....oops , I mean Jen Tilly!
Are u kidding me Stu ungar is by far the best of all time
lol no.
Where's Mike the mouth
who was the girl that he wanted off the list
Put Tilly back
Stu ungr is by far the goat
Elon would not last 30 minutes in any poker tourney lmao
I haven't got to that part of the video yet... But I agree with you. He's a smart man but his brain goes 9 million miles a hour... I don't think that he would be able to sit there that long without inviting something... anything while there. Lmao 🤣😂🤣
Sure he would, and dougs point is that people are keen to bust a hig celebrity which would give musk thr chance to win easy all ins and vuild a big stack.
The point isn't that he would necessarily do well, its that he would do better than someone equally skilled but not famous on average.
for pro pokers players yall really know nothing about poker players lol, this list is awful.
Of course a bunch of online guys are going to consider online the ultimate poker forum.. I disagree. Online takes out so many factors of the game. You don’t need a poker face, you don’t look for tells.. you can jump up and down when you have the nuts online and nobody knows. Online poker is just different. It’s like saying that because you can win an online car race against the best in the world in a NASCAR simulator, you’re the best race car driver in the world. Live poker results trump online results all day every day. And to act like the older players weren’t as good because they don’t use GTO.. remember, they were literally trying to think while they had a gun in their hand and legitimately prepared to be robbed at any minute. Playing in your underwear where no one can see you affords you luxuries they did not have.
This is nonsense. Online poker is real poker and the volume of hands allows real skill to be judged. People run hot in a live tournament and dummies like you think it proves anything.
Polk is definitely wrong about peak LeBron vs. peak Jordan. Peak LeBron was taking shoe clerks and bus drivers to the NBA finals at his peak, Jordan didn’t do it, and I don’t think he could have. Also, NBA rules favoring Jordan’s style of play were in effect during his peak, it’s a little unfair to put it this way, but in a sense he was playing on easy mode. It’s not like Jordan’s a chump, but the top 5 in NBA history is so close it’s an almost impossible argument.
Lebron would get manhandled in the jordan era. Maybe the rules aren't explicitly in his favor, but the refs absolutely are.
@@jasonmaguire7552 by who? Anthony Mason and Rodman would be able to get to him I guess, but no one else comes to mind. Hell, let Cleveland draft him in ‘91 and they might dominate the league.
Will never trust a computer to deal cards right they can never figure out the algorithms so I don't look at that like I do live poker and skill play everybody knows how bad that computer can just brutally beat you when you're so far ahead of the hand and next thing you know it gives it the turn River and gives them everything online poker I've never seen so many hands hit flushes it flushes more than my toilet does
Nope. This is nonsense. You wimpy play orders of magnitude more hands online so you get more bad beats overall. I trust a computer program more than I do manual shuffling.
Reuploads don’t count Doug , stop being lazy
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Doug is the only one i disagree with
I think the net was cast too broadly here. The premise is basically “greatest athlete” but the games are wildly different. Holz is a great example. Tournaments are distance races, MTTs are middle distance races and cash is a series of sprints. Hold em is an entirely different game than basically everything else with only PLO being relatable.
At the end of the day it’s probably Ivey, Ungar, and Reese (probably Brunson too) in one category and everyone else is kind of a specialist or decent. It looks like Siever and Cates might break through to the top tier.