The Allegations of Sienna Mae | A TikTok Nightmare
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Today we're documenting the rise of a TikTok superstar, once beloved by over 15M followers. Join me as we go through the timeline of Sienna Mae's many non-apologies and responses to the allegations made by fellow TikTok creator Jack Wright over the course of the past year.
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TIMECODES:
intro - 0:00
our beautiful sponsor - 2:55
who is sienna mae gomez - 4:10
sienna and jack's relationship - 6:50
merch controversy - 9:10
the first allegations - 12:16
sienna's first response - 14:15
the video/sienna's second response - 16:48
dance break - 24:47
jack's testimony - 27:57
aftermath - 34:37
sienna and her lawyer go on a barstool sports podcast - 36:44
conclusion - 44:42
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Hi
released 1 min ago but it doesnt show on your youtube account????
how many VPN's do you have?!
Dude your vids are so good, Keep it up
Jack: she assaulted me
Sienna’s legal team: people just hate to see a girlboss win😩✊✨
Basically...
It's fucking sick how she literally got away with this with such ease without facing any serious consequence. Favouritism at its peak
Fucking annoying how Sienna's like "I can do no wrong, I'm YOUNGGG"
@@strawtifulbonnie9363 nepotism is not the word you're looking for.
@@a.k.emerson424 sorry, favouritism. That's the right term
@@strawtifulbonnie9363 dw she hasn't gotten away with it
God's watching
I can't believe people born in 2004 are old enough to have scandals
Edit: please can all the 2004 babies stop freaking out in the replies. This was a joke about me feeling old not about y'all being children. I'm fully aware someone born in 2004 is now an adult 💀
I feel you
Lmao i feel the same
Its crazy to me that people who weren’t born when the SpongeBob Movie dropped are committing crimes against humanity
Yeah, that's the year I graduated high school. 😂
theres 13yr old in a scandal on tiktok how r u surprised 😂
Jack tearing up and saying "I don't know if she'll ever be sorry. I don't know if she'll ever learn from what she did, or ever admit what she did." just killed me inside. That's the worst place to be in. Someone changing your life forever in such a scarring way and wondering if they even care. If it'll even matter.
it turns out to be true because sienna literally flipped her middle finger while lip synching I hope they cancel and they can kiss my ass in her official return video to youtube
sad
there's something odd about that
but can't put my finger on what exactly, the whole thing just sees odd to me
@@adolfogarzachaires394like he's lying or that she's weird? Or something else?
@@CookiesTriedToEatMe i just cant put my finger on exactly what
But the whole thing just seems odd to me, dont know why tho
Imagine Jeff Dahmer apologizing to the relatives of his 17 victims by breakdancing in the courtroom
“Every one of those 17 were their own individuals, and in the spirit of their individuality, I want to do my part in honouring them by hitting the gritty 😔🕺✨” - Jeffery Dahmer
…that would be the single greatest thing ever caught on film, next to Charles Nelson Reilly having Gene Rayburn give him a piggyback ride.
Clearly not comparable 😂😂 🤦🏻♂️ someone’s been watching Netflix too recently fs
Lmfao Jeff Dahmer was dismembering and eating his victims... Not really comparable to this whole situation being talked about here... but Okay... 🤣😂
How do 265 people like this comment damn 🙈
the fact that she made a dance video in response to her allegations is baffling.
Edit: OMG COLLEEN BALLINGER
But not at all out of line, with her line of thinking. These people simply cannot be taken seriously!
She just want to create, she wants to inspire and post unedited photos of herself. If she could inspire one person, then she did what she was put here to do
@@ajmorales5748 tone deaf, she made an inappropriate clout seeking video in response to a SA accusation edit: oops
@@halgaucher6730 hmm seems you didn't get the joke
@@ajmorales5748 you right, didn’t get to the video part w/ the subtitles. Should have waited before commenting.
To be clear: You don't need to have sex to sexually assault someone. That's NOT a requirement. No is no. And if someone's out cold, that's a no from the jump...in case anyone had any doubts...even if they're your partner. You can't touch someone sexually when they're out cold. Hell, even kissing him like she was, constitutes assault.
Who, the Heck would be in a relationship with someone who would say No anyways lol
@@ghodge82 Not everyone wants to have sex all the time. Hell, you as a person probably doesn’t wanna have sex all the time.
@@ghodge82 Saying no to having sex doesn't mean that you do not love your partner. There are a myriad of reasons people refuse sex, and every single one of them is valid. If having a partner say no to sex immediately ruins your entire relationship, you need to take a good long look in the mirror and reevaluate some things.
@@ghodge82 you dont date much do you
@@ghodge82 oh my... umm it happens tf.. so if they say no u keep going zz
Partner rape is not easy to talk about, and men being raped by women is not easy to talk about. I can't imagine how hard it was for him to come out about this, especially in front of millions of people. My heart goes out to the kid, he's so young and having to put such a personal thing out to everyone. I hope he's able to heal
In some countries both partner and male rape don't even get recognized as a rape by law, it's so disheartening to hear of such stories but thank god he was able to tell his and be met with support.
@@dashdashdash_some? In almost every country the threshold of heterosexual s/a is much higher for males than females (and the sentencing much more lenient for female perpetrators) such that its functionally not a crime.
Fr definitely when everyone treats men getting SA as a joke or not a real thing 😂 like if this situation was reversed & it was her asleep the guy would be bruised & in jail instantly I hate society
and it's good that jack has people in his corner because a lot of people do feel alone in addressing trauma
imagine looking back on all this and thinking "wow this is the second worst apology video i ever saw" because that's the hellscape we exist in now.
"The toxic gossip train..."
@@ashleysilver4295 The worst part is that that song is kind of an earworm. Like, it is legit catchy when it has *no* right to be and it makes me so mad
@@TheManWithTheFlan exactly! Wonder if there's a lyric video
@@TheManWithTheFlan Anytime I hear the words "toxic" and "gossip" no matter the context, my brain immediately starts that freaking song. My mistake for watching so many reaction videos about it, thinking I'd forget about the song in a week.
@@TheManWithTheFlanI know 😂 It pops into my head constantly
I absolutely hate that her actions are referred to as "crossing boundries." No, she committed assault, point blank. I hate she basically got away with it.
I see what you mean, but since "crossing boundaries" in this situation refers to very clear physical/sexual boundaries, it makes sense to alternate the phrasing bc youtube and tiktok flag terms like "sexual assault"
@@doityourselfbombs if earning money off of sexual ASSAULT is more important then spreading awareness regardless of the means or repercussions then idk what to tell you.
@@bruh-bh3kk youtube flagging videos doesn't just mean they don't make money, it means the videos are suppressed and can't be used to spread awareness.
@@doityourselfbombs flagging is someone reporting the video and it wouldn't get shadowbanned it would either be age restricted or taken down completely, the reason they censor themselves is because they can be demonetized automatically for using keywords. So yeah it is about money.
@@bruh-bh3kk yeah but demonetization suppresses the video bc then youtube can't make money on it. jaubrey has actually talked abt this a few times.
Just an FYI for those who aren't familiar with SoCal, Laguna Niguel is one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the nation. This girl without question comes from lots and lots of money. I think that explains a lot of her behavior, as she fits the stereotypical OC brat we all know in the area.
Sorry, I don’t live in California, what does ‘OC’ mean?
@@mountaingoatnohorns Orange County
wow so she came from money yet she still takes the stance of "oppressed woman of colour". absolutely insanity, not saying that rich pocs cannot be oppressed but that would definitely not be my rebuttal when im being accused of sexual assault allegations lol..
Yeah, I get the impression she's never been told "no" before in her life and was trying to force a relationship with him because it would have helped her influencer profile.
@@ShaneAJM I thought you meant original character, so I need to go touch grass
Sienna Mae comes off like one of those pretty, popular "perfect" girls in high school who are so used to everyone obsessing over them that once they get rejected or they find someone who won't worship the ground they walk on, they lose their minds 😂
so the girl from uzumaki who tried to steal Kirie's boyfriend
I think the takeaway here is this girl VERY narcissistic, immature, and selfish. It's wild to me that she thought she was going to marry this guy when they HAVEN'T EVEN DATED.
Also, that lawyer is wild. Just wild. I can't imagine what she was thinking participating in this video.
💲💲💲
the thing that bothered me most about her ‘debunking jack wright’ video thingy, was her “why didn’t you report me immediately?” because there’s a lot of factors that SA victims go through these things such as some fearing that they wouldn’t be believed, some feared being hurt again, some were ashamed and some wondered if it was truly their fault that it happened. - sometimes, the age, gender or race comes into play, especially male survivors; they’re not usually believed so that’s why most kept to themselves.
anyways, that “why didn’t you report me?” point was weak
She knew the likelihood of anyone in law enforcement taking him seriously in that situation was very low, and fully intended to use that advantage to avoid any repercussions. Sickening!
Plus some don't even realize that it's SA until many years after the fact. It took me 7 years to realize that
A: there's a reason I can't remember much of my grade 7 year
B: it's because my male classmates bullied me bc being a clearly mentally ill and ND 12 year old girl made me an easy target
C: one of the ways they bullied me was through repeated SA, which I had written off as being gross as HELL but not SA (spoilers, it was SA). My brain was repressing the memories, which is why I can barely remember anything that happened at all that year
Exactly. SA is one of the most underreported crimes- this is a horrible argument. As a survivor myself I never had the strength to report because I didn’t want to be retraumatized by the legal system
He even said himself that at first he felt it was his fault for being too nice and giving false signals.
I think a lot of people underestimate how much trauma can effect a person's mind. It's impossible to know how someone will react if they wake up one day and realise they have been assaulted or treated inappropriately
it really just screams that they have never been assaulted or hurt like that. they dont get it unless it happens to them. it took me 5 seconds after it happened to realize it was SA. i didnt report it because i was hurting so much and he as my friend, and i was a kid, so i was scared of not being believed and i was scared of the legal system.
The fact that she pretty much got away with it is crazy. She did NO reflecting and learned nothing, and you can tell she has no concept of how much damage she caused, or that she just doesn’t care. Probably the latter.
Maybe this is one of those situations where the consumer is just as guilty, no?
This really weird thing where people try to inject themselves into (often very young) people's lives on social media and demand they act a certain way is a really really really really really really big problem.
@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 well said 👍👍, they focus on others so they don’t have to think about improving themselves
She did get away with it... What...
Yeah, same with people like the Lopez brothers. They never actually face any real punishment, so theyll never learn. a social media shitstorm is nothing to them. theyre used to it atp
She got away maybe because the victim was a boy and the one who assaulted was a girl
Man. Hearing Jack's birth date really hit me. He's barely a month older than my little brother. Idk why but that just stunned me for a bit. I hope he's receiving the support he deserves right now.
For me that's the problem with all of this. People this age should not be in these situations. They should not be international internet superstars with control over their own platform. They should not be in a situation where they're airing their interpersonal grievances for millions. This is fucking this generation up in a way we've never seen before
“Worst response to any controversy I’ve ever seen”
Colleen Ballinger: *takes out ukulele*
every dance needs a song
Something that really bothers me about Sienna is how she throws around the fact she's a latina as a way to defend herself
Using the fact latino/hispanic women tend to be sexualized to her favor
As a latina myself this behavior is disgusting, she's using the struggles a lot of us deal with as a way to defend her literally committing SA, unacceptable smh
i got genuinely pissed off because as a latina myself, it bothers me so much that she uses it to make herself the victim.
@@burntarroz4333 Love your user, and as a fellow latina, we should claim her as a symptom of gender biases and beat it out of our community con la chancla. maybe el cinturon. idk. I hate it when people are like "As a member of x community, we don't claim them" when there is a real chance that the way they act is indicative of a deeper issue within said community.
What does race even have to do with this? She's bringing up unnecessary stuff about herself such as her "just turning 18" and her race to bring pity to herself.
and apparently she’s only a quarter latina
Not to mention she’s like 5% Latina
Big kudos to the victim’s friends. This easily could have been a toxic “guys can’t be sexually assaulted” mentality. Some cases where female teachers prey on their male students had male classmates applaud the victim as if this was a stereotype frat boy conquest and not a crime or moral black hole.
It's unfortunate some victims cannot express their opinion because of societies toxic views
All women were victims of violent crime and all men wanted it. Where does that put the young women who wanted it but were way too young to consent and understand the repercussions, or the young men who were forced. Even more shame because you don't fit everyone's idea of a victim.
Between this and Zoey Laverne I think the argument that "men can't be sexually assaulted" should be enough evidence to put that argument to bed for good
@@tylerpendleton1980i feel like people know that, except abusers who’d deny it
I think the problem is we've spent so much time telling boys about gaining consent and girls giving consent to protect women, we've neglected the male victims of harassment and abuse in the process.
We should have left gender out of the conversation and talk about the importance of consent as a whole.
That's why you have some girls thinking "he's a man, I can initiate contact and he'll like it"
And men are too worried about looking like a weakling they would rather just take it .
Women also need to GAIN consent as well and men have the right to revoke consent at anytime before or during.
I am absolutely not a victim of sexual assault; however, the way she gaslights, manipulates, and attacks people while trying just barely to maintain her image and "take it offline" so that she can hurt her victim more in private... Reminds me almost word for word, vibe for vibe of my ex.
This is a hard watch. I feel so bad for Jack. Nobody deserves to be hurt like that, and I know firsthand that the emotional abuse immediately after the boundary-setting can make closure so incredibly hard to find. Jesus
This story is just so heartbreaking. I can't even imagine being in Jack's shoes. Having to tell my own story in this way is so terrifying. The fact people keep calling it "crossing boundaries" is infuriating. A lot of people called him out for the cuts, it hurt my heart when I saw the cuts because to me it meant he had to collect himself or it was getting to be too much. I hope Jack is able to find some healing and peace. I hope she gets some help, if she doesn't I have a feeling she'll just leave a trail of people just like Jack in her wake.
I feel so bad with jack having his SA become a public discussion. I'm glad his friends stand behind him, but God this must've been a stressful situation for him
His body language in videos is heartbreaking. This broke a part of him and he barely has the language to talk about it.
same but I hope to god he gave them permission before ANYONE started talking about it
what getting your balls rubbed by somebody you are shagging anyways? i'd be more concerned about his friend who filmed it...
@@Bioshocking12 I was analyzing his body language in his big video addressing the whole thing, and I absolutely believe him - he’s gone through some shit in this whole situation.
I know 😭 you can see how much he is hurting and probably feels as though no one believes him (except his family and friends). This is the exact reason why so many males who have been victims of SA or even domestic A don't come forward because of the fear of not being believed and this needs to stop 😭 this is why the Johnny Depp case is so important, it really shows that males can be the victims of domestic A, SA or being falsely accused of said things 😞 it's so sad honestly because anyone can become a victim, male or female. Hopefully Jack can get the justice he deserves 💜☮️💐 my heart truly breaks for him!
My heart fucking broke for Jack when he said she did things like this so regularly that he thought it was "normal" and he even blamed himself sometimes. No one deserves to go through this, I hope he's doing alright now.
The way my throat got caught up when he said it felt "normal" because as someone who was used constantly for their body, it feels so normal after it happening so often. I blamed myself for so long for staying in those relationships because it was so clearly manipulating. He shouldn't blame himself. Manipulators know how to keep those who are vulnerable in their grasp. I really hope he can heal from all of this.
that’s all i could think when i first heard about this from mr. beard’s video. her defense was that she’s still young, well what about him? he’s so young yet he had gotten to the point where he felt like this treatment was normal. he’s going to carry this trauma forever. he definitely has a good support system in the friends & family who defended him, but it’s still going to take a lot to work through this. it’s so disgusting that an abuser like her is just allowed to continue her life without any consequences.
He's gay, she was just a beard for him.
@@rydz656 bruh what
He made his money.
Can't believe he essentially got stalked and she just got away with it, even with all the evidence. I feel terrible for him, I hope he gets the help he needs
As a victim of SA (I was 11 when my experience happened) I feel horrible for Jack. It’s horrible this happened to him REGULARLY.
I get secondhand embarrassment when I see people as painfully un-self aware as sienna mae.
Yeah that’s who we’d all be if we didn’t have anxiety LMAO
@@trapadvisor or empathy.
Or as so deeply insecure...
@@imjustapancake3188 true
Right!? I'm cringing so hard I think I pulled a muscle.
I’m glad you’ve been covering female predators, it’s been disgusting hearing defenders try and say they’d love this kind of stuff happening to them “if they were in the abused’s position”. Predators need to be called out and this social perception HAS to change
Bro did you have to say “female”? Really undercuts an otherwise valuable perspective.
@@JaimyW Stop reaching
@@JaimyW your the exact person I’m complaining about if you take issue with the female part
@@JaimyW well what else did you want him to say? He’s talking about female predators, and uses the designation of female in order to separate that group from male predators.
@@JaimyW It doesn't undercut anything. Girl in this case is wrong because that implies younger women and woman isn't right because she was 16/17/18, maybe even before then, abusing him. Female is the umbrella term that a person who isn't a male is the abuser.
You're really reaching here for no reason. This comment is perfectly fine. Neckbeards and incels use female as derogatory (for some bizarre reason) but people making a comment about female abusers use it because it encompasses the entire gender of any age, not just a specific age range like girl or woman does. Girl implies young, woman implies mature, female encompasses all. Make sense?
She wanted him, he didn't want her, and she wasn't okay with that. The little brat took every opportunity to "claim" what she thought was her's, even though she knew he hated it. She probably thought she could wear him down till he gave in. I'm so glad he didn't. Sad thing is, she probably won't lose enough followers to really make a dent in her bank account, so she'll continue to be a terrible person until serious consequences happen to her.
My question is about her intentions to be with him. Were they genuine feelings she had (though very obsessive and possessive) or did she wanna get with him because the shipping her fans did of them brought her the most views? If they'd made it official, her ratings would've probably skyrocketed. It might be a bit of both. I get a lot of "I didn't get what I wanted, so I'm pissed" vibes from her.
I hope Jake is doing okay. He seems like a genuinely nice kid. I'm glad his friends and brother are sticking by him.
I’ve known girls who had a bad habit of getting too handsy with guys or other girls they were into and when they’d get told to stop would be like “but that’s my way of showing love! I have too much love to give!” Just like Sienna. Too many young women think they can get away with it. And sadly, many do.
I earnestly hope Jack has a therapist and a strong support system. As someone who was stalked by an ex-boyfriend who was emotionally and sexually abusive, these events are DEEPLY traumatic and it took me years to even get a modicum of inner peace. I wish people understood that your crushes and romantic interests are WHOLE people with desires and boundaries. You aren’t entitled to anyone’s space unless you are given permission.
I hadn't heard of these people before the video but it seems like he has a good family and loving friends. They quickly came to his defence and them starting the conversation seemed to make him comfortable with sharing his story through videos.
I just hope that if he has strong enough evidence he decides to go to the police or sue her
Yeah same. I still get dms from my ex bf after blocking him and he even has contacted me on whatsapp even when i blocked him.
>man suffers
>typical woman: "HEY ITS ME, A WOMAN! ACTUALLY I AM THE ONE SUFFERING. IGNORE THE MAN IN THE VIFEO AND FOCUS ON ME"
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644
Uh no. It is good to have people sharing personal experiences. In case Jack checks his comments he may see that he is not alone and taken seriously. Not to mention theraphy is some good advice especially for victims of manipulative behavior.
The og commenter never said to ignore Jack. She merely recounted her own experience in comment section of a video that is talking about the subject of assault. Please grow up.
I'm not familiar with either of them but that video of the poor boy is heartbreaking. I hope he gets far away from her and finds better people and happier days.
I think the fact that I've never heard of any of these social media "influencers" until this channel covers them is a sign that I'm doing something right in life.
Same, I came here from moist critical. I have no idea who any of these guys are.
Me too
Haha, same. I didn’t even know who these “celebrities” were until this video popped up in my recommendations
right like who is this girl-
And it’s just confirmation that you are right for not knowing
Wow. I had such a similar experience with a guy who was supposed to be my ”best friend.” He kept crossing my boundaries just like this, but since he had been my best friend for years, I kept forgiving him. And every time I’d bring it up, he’d act like it was an accident or deny it or play dumb. Sometimes he’d own up to it, apologize (still have the texts🙃) and then do it again the next day. It’s been almost 2 years since I cut him off completely but the whole thing has really fucked me up. This shit is infuriating.
Hearing Jack talk about his experience is heartbreaking, you can tell he puts a lot responsibility on himself for what happened. I hope he's doing alright, I know it's very hard to work through things like this especially when the person hurting you gets away with little to no consequences
This is ugh, disgusting. I was raped by my ex boyfriend, and yes I had sex with him before, kissed him, touched him, but when he raped me I said no, several times and he did not care, and just because we kissed before that doesn't mean it was consensual. There's no excuse, I hope he gets better from this terrible relationship, narcicist people are everywhere, and I am so glad he spoke about it after all, cause I can't imagine how difficult it was.
i'm deeply sorry that happened to you
I got raped by my first girlfriend. As a man nobody really believes me and they tend to side with whatever story she came up with, I’ve been called all sorts of names and accused of doing all sorts of things, at one point I even got called the rapist. And while I cannot clear my name because of my sex I can get plenty of revenge by just moving forward with my life and being happy with my next relationships
@@c.9858 I'm so sorry that happened to you
@@c.9858 im sorry that happened to you, it happened to a friend of mine and she deliberately got pregnant, it's gross that people don't believe that it's possible.
@@ariadneschild8460 while mine is bad at least I didn’t get her pregnant, I hope your Buddy turned out alright
“God gave me this platform for a reason” no honey, it’s just an excess of privilege and resulting arrogance
If there was a God, she'd already be struck down
God may have given it to her but she 100% ignored what he had in mind
yep
God: “ Keep my name out your FUCKING MOUTH”
@@infinitymixtapes9562 underrated
Hearing the pain in his voice, knowing that the only way that he could have some sort of relief, was to speak on something he probably wasn't ready to say, I can sadly relate.
I have an ex that sexually assaulted and raped me regularly. He thought that because he could guilt me into letting him do it and because I consented the first time it was okay every time. It’s disgusting that anyone thinks that just because behavior is consented to and okay in one situation that it’s okay in other situations. I don’t care what the relationship is, you have to get consent every single time or it’s assault.
Wtf, I almost fell out of my chair when you said she was born in 2004! She is literally a year younger than me and has a had a whole ass internet scandal, and I'm here still trying not to fail university
Dude I’m born 1998 and still trying to figure out school and career and stuff, don’t feel bad! I was also like what 2004!! It always baffles me just how young these tiktok people are. Like when I was 18 I was a whole child i could not handle that. My ego would be SO out of wack!
fr i was born in 2003 and am just trying to pass ochem, good luck on finals if they’re coming up for you!
Good luck to all of you!!
Hello fellow uni student! Here's to us not failing
Omg me too! Trying to pass my uni exams succesfully and she out there with predatory behaviour allegations😲. This world is crazy
I love her legal team’s reasoning behind Jack doing this.
“Oh it’s just a bunch of 20 year old male white devils that hate to see a Latina girlboss win and nothing more.”
I feel bad for him because there is probably nothing that will come out of this. But at least the internet knows that she seems like a gaslighting, disingenuous, and frankly awful person.
It is absolutely disgusting when people who are guilty of the crimes they are accused of use this "it's because of my race excuse" because it affects the situations and how many people will actually believe victims when they are actually hurt because of their race/gender/etc. It just makes a complete mockery of a very real issue.
Supposedly you can only be racist against someone with no power, but this is a clear demonstration of having power if you ask me. I mean they say that's what SA is about, power.
Interesting how the minority cards (woman of color) don't seem to be enough.
It's a real shame though that her fans will probably never care. They're on her side because they like her content. No matter what she did they will continue to like her because they confuse liking her content for liking her. They were also not affected by this so they don't see the harm. And they're reason enough for her to keep making said content.
It makes me sick to think about it but the fact is that she'll be fine.
@@djsierra777 To this day they still try to defend her by using her blog post where she did everything apart from clearing herself in the slightest lmao
remembering how this used to be the most insane/worst "apology" ever... oooh colleen came for the crown with the ukulele the internet is NOT REAL
Jack you are a brave young man as so many males don’t come forward (As a fellow survivor I applaud you, well done)
You could’ve just said victims, you know? It’s not just men that don’t come forward.
"We didn't have sex." Is that the qualifier she thinks makes sexual assault legit? That's completely wrong, and it seems like she thinks that way.
Sorry if I sound ignorant, but wouldn’t sexual assault be committing sexual acts on someone without their consent (aka r*pe)? How is kissing an unconscious person sexual assault (not that I don’t agree with you!)?
@@Alicia-kp8bg i would say sexual assault is the prelude to rape. it's the (nonconsensual) sexual advancement that leads to the nonconsensual sexual act (rape, which involves penetration by definition).
kissing can be very intimate and very sexual if you make it out to be, especially since it's normally something you only do with your significant other. and from what it looked like, she was very heatedly making out with him while he was unconscious, when they're only friends (there are *other* videos of them kissing, yes, but that's only in the tiktok scene. think of them as actors acting for a movie - they only kiss and act romantic on-screen, that's what's agreed upon. but, you don't see actors crossing these boundaries outside of the screen unless they're in an official, consensual relationship).
the kiss was nowhere near innocent, it wasn't just a brief peck to the lips or cheek. she did it with intent, with her own "needs" in mind (her needs, not his, he didn't consent to it) and i'm sure if jack's friend wasn't present, she would have gone farther. and technically, she did, seeing how she broke into his home numerous times and slipped her hand down to his you-know-what while he was, again, unconscious. i only feel pity for jack at this point and it's crazy how sienna keeps trying to defend herself even when the evidence is clearly against her.
yeah that's rape, not sexual assault (although I guess it's kind of a subcategory)
@Skdkskdk Dkdjjdkdjd calm down. they just don’t fully understand what sexual assault is. thats all.
yes
I worked as a sexual assault victim advocate for several years and male victims of sexual assault, particularly if the perpetrators are women, are so often shamed and ignored (when I say often, I mean ALMOST ALWAYS). I am glad people are talking about this, but I wish there were more real world consequences for her. She got away with sexual assault ON CAMERA. It is absurd.
What's an advocate? My mother used to own a company who's only goal was to find and help victims of sexual assault that for one reason or another couldn't get official help. Be it that they hadn't made a claim of assault or they weren't believed when they did. Can be any number of reasons. It's just that sexual assault victim advocate sounds weird to me, can you explain what that title means?
@@starcraft2own A lot of times sexual assault victims would come to the organization I worked for and I would work with them to get things like restraining orders, police interviews (if they wanted to report), being with them during rape exams, and being there to support them in court. The name does sound weird - still better than what my position was initially called - sexual assault advocate sounds...not so great...One of the positives about an advocate is that, unless they are a victim witness coordinator or something, advocates are not part of the judicial system or in any way run by the police. Outside of the legal advocacy, I would often help sexual assault victims who were within 200% of the federal poverty line apply for things like rent and energy assistance and work with them to get safe housing. It was really interesting and rewarding work, but I completely burned out and had to take a break from advocacy because it was very emotionally draining.
Sorry that was so long!
@@janetandamocha7874 I was never taken seriously and my rapist is still out there. It's building an unhealthy rage towards women inside me, and I think it will end up violently if I read one too many of these cases where a woman is RECORDED committing sexual assault and gets no punishment.
When I was in elementary school I was sexually harassed and the councillor at the school said that boys don't get assaulted or harassed told me to be nicer to the girl and then dismissed me
@@jermu8706 I'm so sorry for what you have gone through. I hope you get the help you deserve. I hope it doesn't end in violence for you because that wouldn't help anyone but the rapist that got away scotfree. I wish you the best of joy in life!
Narcissists can't handle rejection of any level.
I was SA'd by my then boyfriend on my 21st birthday when I was passed out. He was from a very affluent family and a part of a fraternity so to make any claims against him was beyond intimidating. It took me years to even wrap my head around what it was that happened even when it happened another time after followed by an attempt on a separate occasion. I am sure she thinks she did nothing wrong - they have kissed before and touched, maybe not in a sexual way, but they have been skin to skin. Just like my ex. But that doesn't mean that performing actions on someone - even if they have consented to those things before- when they cannot consent is not ok. It doesn't matter what age you are or what gender. This is exactly why the "me too"movement started. To give support to those who have been abused and are silenced by those with a great amount of power, money or influence. And for the lawyer to have the audacity to dismiss and diminish his claims because he did not file a report etc etc. is ridiculous. Not only is it blatant victim shaming/blaming but it's called the dark figure and even a freshman level criminology class will tell you that over half of SA and R go unreported for numerous reasons. And I feel for this young man. I was not believed that I was assaulted because I was told it wasn't " violent" or "typical R" and that it was by a boyfriend so I do "qualify" to be a "victim" or to be as upset as I am and just a bunch of other really crass things. I cannot even imagine for a young man to be SA'd because even the "typical victims," females, often have uphill battles to climb in order to be believed. I'm sure he has and is facing a lot of shit for coming out and saying what he did. It's not "flattering" or "cool" that this young women kept violating his boundaries.
The entire podcast with her "lawyer" made me just feel so gross, none of them have any regard for Jack's feelings and how damaging this has been to him it's absolutely disgusting
That's why the "blood sucking lawyer" trope exists
I mean, they’re paid to defend her in every way even if they knew she was guilty. But i agree that it’s gross that they don’t sympathize with him and what he went through regardless of being sienna's team but im guessing they’ll probably get into trouble by her family and the company they’re working for if they did that.
One word. Money. We get that it's disgusting, but I do agree with the comments here.
Because he's a man
he has a beach house in hawaii, i think his feelings will be fine after being groped by a hot girl. he's obviously gay otherwise this wouldn't be an issue. and i mean come on, he is obviously gay. listen to him talk for more than 5 minutes, and that hair? gay gay gay
I was a teenager when I was sexually assaulted by two female classmates. They cornered me, groped me, humiliated and mocked me. It took me until my twenties to realize that what happened to me was wrong because I was raised to believe women can't be perpetrators. I hope Sienna will eventually suffer consequences. Not just for Jack's sake. But for everyone who had been attacked and was never taken seriously.
Damn, how did they corner you exactly? Like, did they force you down, were there other people around? Just curious
@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3....seriously man? I hope you didn't do this on purpose, but just so you know, asking someone weirdly invasive questions about their assault isn't cool. Some curiosities should be ignored.
My heart goes to you, I hope you can heal and that they suffer the consequences of their horrible acts.
@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3that’s gross man
@@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3wow when it comes to men being victims, you are asking invasive questions? Get out of here.
Lmao there is literally no difference between "upper thigh" and "crotch" in this context, can't believe she said that dead-ass
Someone should put her dance to Toxic Gossip Train.
That legal document was disturbing to hear read, using her race and gender to invalidate jacks claims is unbelievable
She was grasping at straws.
it's damaging to him as her victim and also damaging to other women of colour because some people are going to take real racism and sexism a little less seriously after seeing identity weaponised like this -_-
ethnicity* but yeah i know it was weird for her to do that
I actually had to pause the video so I could just process how many frivolous buzzwords they used in that paragraph alone. It screamed "I have no real defense, so I'm using woke points instead"
I'm pretty sure its just to make the accusers look worse to the idiots on Twitter.
I hate it when influencers in these situations always act like the victims are to blame for not "keeping things a private matter" or not dealing with it personally - it is absolutely perfectly reasonable to want the influencer in these situations to have their fanbase understand what is going on, and the victims have no obligation to have to go face-to-face with their abusers in the process
yeah its weird how the only "respectable" options seem to be either go to the police and take matters to court, or shut up and handle it privately. I understand why someone wouldn't want to go to the police with this stuff and I can imagine it would be painful to see the person who hurt you being praised constantly by people everywhere you look bc they're famous so just telling the fanbase what they did is a pretty good middle ground
Everyone needs to be held accountable for actions and i feel people with a sphere of influence need to be held accountable by the people they influence as well as the law.
Unfortunately, as someone who was in Jack's situation, it's not just influencers.
She didn’t want to “take it offline.” She wanted her accusers to take it offline, so she could control the narrative herself.
It's hysterical how absolutely atrociously she has handled this situation from start to finish. It doesn't sound like she's done 1 smart PR move
It makes me so furious that she gets to live her life unaffected and happy while the things she did and said to jack will be permanently stuck in his brain and that’s not fair. The fact that she lied makes me even madder. I just feel like she should of went to jail because if it happened the other way around jack would have some serious consequences. It’s just not fair
Jack seemed so genuine, heartbroken, and vulnerable in his response video while Sienna's videos are incredibly defensive and aggressive. Unfortunately, male sexual assault victims are often disregarded. I'm not surprised it took him so long to say something.
As weird as it sounds, I’ve been really glad to see female abusers getting more coverage. I hope the “women are always innocent” and “men always ask for it/want it” beliefs will start being phased out and people will start questioning these biases more. I know I personally have this unconscious bias and I’ve been unlearning it in the past year. Jack is amazingly brave for speaking out, as a survivor myself having spoken out about someone in my community, I cannot even IMAGINE that level of attention times 1000! I hope he gets what he needs in therapy and can heal from this.
Completely agree. I'm getting tired of people using the "Woman have always been hurt by men throughout history" excuse to act like this isn't bad. I'm a female, I had a stepmother who abused the whole family, so the idea that women can't be dangerous or abusive (or it's not that bad when women do it) is terrible. Seriously, all dangerous double standards need to just die.
I think you’re taking it wrong. Like no one is saying women predators aren’t equal as men predators.
Let’s not demean any gender. Because from what y’all are saying y’all make it seem like “who gaf about women victims, we’ve cared enough about them”.
Everyone is valid.
@@FukaiKokoro “Like no one is saying women predators aren’t equal as male predators” they are though, lots of people can be seen defending her with stuff like he must’ve enjoyed or men can’t be sexually assaulted or raped (which in the opposite case of a women being SA’ed by a man is not even a thing and really serious as it should be)
Also the second part where you’ve said that we’re making it seem like “who gaf about women victims we’ve cared enough about them” is the part where you taking it wrong cause we just want the same attention and seriousness taken for both not take away attention.
@halcyon ! ♡ ° sorta? I still don’t think it will ever be perfectly equal or balanced but that’s just the way it is
@@FukaiKokoro This was a horrible take trying to hide the truth. Who are you defending with this comment? You are literally lying with the "no one is saying women predators aren’t equal as men predators." part.
It is a well documented part of human psychology that this is indeed a conditioned way of thinking about sexual assault.
It's bothersome how Sienna uses Jack consenting to acts they performed on camera(no different from actors) to excuse her kissing and touching him when he wasn't awake to consent and when he previously said he didn't want anything more than a friendship. Imo it's a dangerous mindset to believe you have control over someone and their body just because of past actions with them. I feel for Jack, he seemily was continuously disregard by someone he saw as a friend who seems to think little of the sexual harassment/assault she did to him. Hearing him speak on his experience, you give friends benefit of the doubt because their your friend and I dont believe its your fault if your friend uses your kindness against you.
Very good point about it being no different to actors. By her insane logic it would be okay for Kate Winslet to do these things to Leonardo Di Caprio because they had a movie relationship.
Putting on a relationship for views is very different to continually chasing someone who has politely said no on numerous occasions
That's the behavior you see on to catch a predator
Exactly. It gives the same sort of attitude some people have that married people can't be raped or assaulted by their partners because they're in a consummated relationship. Like, unless both parties are equally up for it, that's still assault, regardless of prior circumstances.
That’s what tells me Jack’s 100% the truth. Sienna doesn’t even seem like she can define consent
This girls is DANGEROUS via breaking into his house time after time. Dude get a restraining order NOW and make it a permanent one. She’s @siennamae is not right in the head! Get yourself a lawyer! #metoo
At risk of putting myself in some hot water, I'm going to express how absolutely infuriated the defense of "well there's no legal proceedings or investigations so obviously Sienna never did any of these things" makes me
If you fucking stub your toe home alone and no one sees it, you still stubbed your fucking toe.
Here's the part that may make my life a little difficult:
My last boyfriend (last both because he was the last person I dated and because I've since realized I'm a lesbian and won't ever date men again) SAd me. Multiple times. Over a period of at least a year.
There will never be legal proceedings, I have no proof but my own word. Hell, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even be able to use my own testimony at this point because of how long I waited to tell anyone
But it still *happened.* He still assaulted me, even if he would argue we were consenting adults (note that these events were sometimes directly violent, sometimes the line of consent was too blurry to ever be called safe and healthy), but he still did those things to me and the fact I have these memories
The idea that anyone could ever think "well the police aren't involved so clearly nothing happened" is a good response to any of this makes me so genuinely ill because this shit is what kept me from telling anyone what was happening to me until I had already dumped the f***er and kicked him out of my house.
“I was so used to it…….it was normal for me.” That broke my heart!I hope the poor kid learns to not blame himself.I know it’s hard,but it’s not your fault.(I know from my own experiences that it’s hard not to blame yourself.)
Literally every victim blaming tactic in the book is in those first response videos alone. "Why were you touchy with me a week later then" "remember when I comforted you and brought you food" "why did you wait so long to say something then" etc. She seems so manipulative that she believes her own manipulation and has become delusional. Stand with SA survivors no matter their gender.
You’re one of the few women in the comment section saying this. Women will say “kill all men” but won’t hold other women accountable
@@dragonkingsports Honey you have no idea on the true "women" then do you? You just see toxicity.
Seriously. I almost couldn't watch that part. I've been through emotional abuse like that and my god does it make moving on from whatever you're hurting about impossible... Even worse if it's something like what Jack went thru. She is so obviously an abuser.
You'd think rich people could afford PR teams etc that make them look like saints. I guess abusers are really just that delusional.
I see a lot of people defending her with stuff like “men can’t be raped” (which isn’t even true for man on man, there’s a reason altar boys and priests are such a punchline) and “women can’t rape” (again, nuns and altar boys). It’s just a bummer that in an age where it’s getting easier and easier to not only call out someone on this sort of behaviour, old messages and hipocrisy still run so damn deep.
Well that's just modern feminism at work, protecting those who absolutely don't need it lol. Different rules for different people, Sienna would have fully gotten away with it (and still might) had Jack not had the massive following he did. TikTok doesn't care either, they would still promote her.
@@Neillan i think it’s less “modern feminism” and more just a cycle of gullible people being fooled by snake oil sellers, but i agree with the fact that if jack wasn’t already popular there would have been no repercussions for sienna. shits fucked lmao
@@Neillan I have never seen a feminist argue that men can't be raped
@@Neillan oh god here we go 🙄
@@Neillan no feminist says men can’t be raped. Feminists are the loudest proponents of highlighting all victims of sexual abuse, including men.
The dance was the worst part. Imagine being a victim of SA and then seeing this circus show as a response to your allegations 💀
the editing in this is superb! Your narration is some of the best I've heard in the commentary community as well.
She comes off as a person who’s so used to getting what she wants and thinks so highly of herself that when he basically said no her brain couldn’t comprehend it. So she forced herself on him because it’s what SHE wanted and didn’t really care if he wanted it or not cause “why wouldn’t he I’m perfect”. The girl needs a reality check, therapy and maybe some jail time
I agree but I also feel like deep down she is immensely insecure. She's trying so hard to stave it off but it radiates from her like stink lines.
@@steamedhamlet oh yeah I agree no doubt
Definitely. She's giving major narcissist vibes imo
Typical SRKS „spoiled rich kid syndrome“
@@steamedhamlet I read that wrong as stink holes 😄😄
I absolutely hate when rapists or sex offenders try and justify their actions by bringing in their age like the whole “you don’t wanna ruin a young mans life” or “she’s young she’ll make mistakes” is so sinister to me and it’s disgusting assault is assault of you are 17 you definitely know better
No care for the life that has already been permanently, severely altered. These aren't mistakes unless you're like 8 and curious, and even then "keep your hands to yourself" had been a mantra of teachers since preschool.
@@BlueHazyDreams permanently altered lmao 🤣 dudes soft af if this is traumatic
@@SergyMilitaryRankings how about you have someone stalk you and show up in your home at night without you knowing and say that
@@ochuspin lmfao, I'd tell them to piss off, god such a snowflake generation
I knew rape was wrong at age 5 😮
That lawyer was quite possibly the worst I've ever seen at lawyer speak. She couldn't talk her way around any of those questions well, she stammered over her words instead of speaking confidently, she was far too flippant sounding for the subject matter. There's a line you walk when defending someone against accusations (especially when, according to Sienna, this was misplaced from someone else assaulting him so he is a victim and you still need to be sensitive that he needs help) that you have to be respectful and well-spoken but firm in the denials. She failed every part of that. Whoever hired her did a terrible job vetting her - or they sent her with Sienna on purpose because they just didn't like Sienna that much.
As someone with trauma of my own, while watching Jack's video it's hard not to notice his hands. I do the exact same thing when I'm talking about my trauma (granted I've got PTSD so it happens when I'm experiencing my flashbacks sometimes too): messing with fingers, grasping onto my finger and pulling, clenching fists, cracking knuckles, etc. And, as the topics get more and more upsetting, Jack's hands ramp up, moving faster, grasping harder. It's clear he's telling the truth and I can only hope that he's been going to therapy to help learn how to cope
She keeps emphasizing they didn’t have sex and I’m like “yeah, I know, he didn’t want to have sex with you. you assaulted him”
Thats what mkes it ASSULT Sienna
jack: "i told her countless times"
sierra: "so uhh i want to marry this guy"
having sex has nothing to do with being sexually assaulted, ikr
the fact that Jack cuts out many parts in the video were he was crying (which are obvious bc there's a cut and afterwards his voice is shaky, eyey red, etc.) says much about him and his sincerity compared to people who dramatically cry on camera in order to get sympathy and pity
Gotta love how Sienna and her lawyers used that against him, though. Trying to call him manipulative by responding with an edited video. Absolutely horrible. Even after all he's been through, he kept his composure. That kid's stronger than he should ever have to be.
This is the 3rd video of your's I've watched tonight and I have literally never heard of any of these people. You do a really good job of making all of the information digestible and entertaining. Thank you for making content!
I've dealt with people like her in high school. Those people like to push others around to feel powerful, but also need to be loved by everyone, and when you call them out on it they'll do whatever they need to do to stay in the spotlight.
The worst part is she obviously doesn't think she did anything wrong. And this happens more often to men and boys than people realize.
My 15yo son experienced something a couple weeks ago with a girl who repeatedly wasn't respecting his boundaries after he clearly told her he just wanted to be friends. She kept trying to forcefully kiss him every time they spent time together. And I could tell he was really shaken up by it. He cares about her as a friend but doesn't want to be put in that situation again. I told him the best thing to do is stop being friends with her.
Its a really difficult situation, and not something he'd want to go to the police or the school over. But I do hope she doesn't continue this behavior with other people
There’s a power dynamic there. Girls know most guys won’t refuse even if they don’t want to and she’s used to getting her way.
I'm sorry your son had to go through with that and that people don't understand boundaries
i’m glad this story implies your son trusts you and you support him in turn, especially at that age.
@halcyon ! ♡ ° i hope one day you can tell someone. whether it’s tomorrow or ten years from now, it’s not a sin to wait to share trauma. and if people you trust react with blame, then that’s *their* fault. they would be in the wrong, not you. but also remember that sometimes we overestimate how others will respond to things. and the people closest to us can be more understanding and loving than we give them credit for, especially when it comes to difficult topics like this. 🖤
Much love and solidary to your son
Jack saying “i don’t know if i’ll ever be the person i was before i met sienna” broke my heart. i get the feeling.
Unfortunately many people feel this way. But fortunately, many people also find growth and positivity after they heal from the traumatic relationship.
😂😂😂😂
@@riisky2411 how is this funny to you?
@@quietworld2267 an attractive women can’t rape a man first of all. “I’ll never be the person I was before” give me a break. She kissed him not sodomized him.
@@quietworld2267 any reason to play victim tho amiright
Bro your intros go HARD wtf, I love the bass-y music and editing
Can’t believe she still has a platform or brand deals, she walked away with no repercussions
Unfortunately, men actually getting justice for sexual assaults like this is the *massive exception, not the rule.* We can only hope this case starts to change things for the better!
It’s the exception for all kinds of sexual assault unfortunately. Underreporting and a shitty conviction rate are consistent for all genders, though especially poor for trans women.
@@JaimyW that’s true and it is so fucking awful. It is such a hard crime to prove without physical or video evidence, which there is often none, and obtaining evidence often involves traumatizing someone again. I’m a survivor and I chose to go the “internet callout” route instead of to the police and even that was very traumatizing, I can’t imagine how much worse it would be to bring it to the police, go thru all the red tape and then still not be believed
@@tohaovershell i don’t think i’ll ever have the courage to go the “internet callout” route, so i have a lot of respect for any victim that does. i can only imagine how terrifying it was for you. i hope you’re healing ❤️
Dude WOMEN GETTING JUSTICE IS ALSO THE EXCEPTION. Something like 2 percent of rapes get convictions. Literally we live in hell for all genders ok
She didn't go to prison so sadly this is a case of men NOT getting justice.
whatever narrative she tried to build pre apology Dance Audition Video was shattered the moment she made that. not only did she essentially admit to all of the accusations thrown at her, she showcased a really strong unapologetic personality which made people more annoyed with her.
I am the most famous man on YouTub! This is not bragging! This is the truth! The truth will set you free, dear frau
Yep.
Honestly the one thing you should do when you've pissed off the Internet is do something which shows that you aren't bothered. It's a sure fire way of getting absolutely slaughtered ngl.
@@AxxLAfriku read the room
It’s a real toss up which makes a worse apology, this or the Toxic Gossip train song.
This was put together and edited beautifully
I can’t get over how disgusting her “apology” interpretive dance video was. Truly embarrassing.
It doesn't seem real
Oh, THIS chick😳
Abuse is abuse, no matter your age. She doesn’t get a “pass” for being a young adult.
I’m so glad Wright stood up, not just for himself by taking his story public, but also for all men who are victims and survivors of abuse. It’s real and it’s devastating.
She's a teen. You only realise what young adult means once you get to your early 20s. With that being said, you're fully responsible and aware of your actions at 18.
@@allroundlad no, you're responsible for your actions as a teen and up
You are responsible for your actions when you can understand the difference between right and wrong
@@channel45853 did you even read my damn comment? I said she's responsible BUT no point calling teens adults when they are NOT. Being a true adult starts at at 20 that's why it's nineTEEN and twenty is twenty.
@@drinkaholix4181 well she’s was a teen when this happened and now a young adult and not much changed from there. shes not a toddler so she’s responsible for her nasty actions.
Your intros and general editing style. Scrap that, your videos in general are so great in so many ways, there the perfect fit in between TRO and Sunnyv2. Different enough to stand out but not two much as to be one of those drama channels. Also those intros really do feel like a super intense Netflix preveiw
As someone with a restrictive ED, while I appreciate my fiance and parents reminding me to eat (I forget all the time) I would never wanna see it on a shirt like that in person, it seems harmless but I think what most people forget is how hard it is to actually get yourself to start eating again when youre used to not eating, in fact seeing reminders like that can actually make the problem worse and make people feel shamed for not having healthy eating habits
My ED (ARFID), while not tied to body image as a driving factor, is immensely psychologically damaging to me, I can do an entire day eating nothing but I've been eating like this since I was little, the problem only getting worse as I've gotten older and have more space to think about it, I constantly beat myself up over not consuming enough for my body to physically survive and it makes it hard for me to even look at or think about food most of the time, it makes me feel physically ill, even being in the kitchen can be too much
A shirt saying "did you eat today" is honestly insulting, like oh yeah sure, as if I hadn't thought about it all day and the mental turmoil and stress from the thought of consuming more than a handful of craisins makes me actively want to vomit
Thanks for the reminder that we arent normal Sienna
I love how your example of a sincere and tactful apology is Jenna marbles. A true queen
goddess*
@@bananafone1414 as much as I love her, I won’t go that far, but if that’s your opinion that’s awesome
@ElijahCuh sometimes it’s just not worth it to argue 💜 peace in your life is peace of mind
Man I miss Jenna. I hope her and Julian and the pups are all doing alright.
@@Alex-bw6yd me too, she was one of the first UA-camrs I watched, and to see her gone now, just sad
As a man who was assaulted for years by a woman, Jack's seated position and the way he cries is interesting - it's very similar to my own body language when discussing it with a therapist. I feel for him... hope he gets the help he needs to overcome the feelings I know he must have
Hey bro I hope you recover stay strong bro
@@c.9858 Thanks man. Wish you well as well.
Hope life is better bro
You’re a man how did that happen for years???!
You know you’re more stronger than a woman you know you can just end it right but you choose to stay in
them trying to say hes just slandering her is so dumb to me cause if he was benefitting off their fake relationship so much then he has no reason to burn that bridge unless what he was saying was true
i'm pretty sure i've watched this sometime before, but as a victim myself of falling into a cycle of problematic behavior, the way jack spoke about sienna's consistent behavior becoming normalized to him made me jolt a little. it reflected how i feel about my own situation, and ultimately, i feel so awful for him. SA is something that anyone can do no matter gender, and anyone can be a victim. wonderful video.
i legitimately almost started crying when jack talked about how it became normal for the assault to happen. no one should ever have to go through that. my heart breaks for him :(
Yes, battered boy syndrome.
As a survivor of this exact thing, the abuse is so normalized and accepted that you eventually become used to it because you're so so tired of resisting. It's extremely exhausting and hard. Sexual abuse is a murky area but this is pretty much my relationship with my ex. It's so hard and I'm so proud of Jack for normalizing male SA victims, as well as standing to a narcissistic abuser like Sienna
sienna: “post your proof, or send it to me and i’ll post it.”
also sienna: “i tried multiple times to keep this offline”
"i never expected it to still exist"
YEA RIGHT. IT MUST BE SO HARD FOR HER THAT SHE SA’D HER “FRIEND”.
It broke my heart when he said that “ he will never be the same” “that there is a part of him that wants to blame himself, because he was nice to her” , cause I can relate so much.
Isn't it kind of ironic how the most successful body-positivity people usually have the ideal body-type?
So I’m not an expert on abuse, but the language was there from the very first response imo. “*I* helped you out, you should be loyal to me.” “Your friends are the ones manipulating you.” “I don’t understand why you’re mad at me, this is your fault.”
Not to mention how she refers to her 'love' for him and that her 'best quality' is how she 'loves' people - like once she 'gives' it out, it's some benevolent factual trait widely accepted by all and justifies her actions towards him somehow...she never gives the impression that she has any capacity to think of it from another point of view. It's sad, honestly.
that iz *exactly* how abuzerz talk to their victimz.. my own abuzer haz said similar thingz 2 me.. shocker..!
Please do not assume things. Just because public opinion is against Sienna Mae does not mean you can pick every maybe-sort of negative little detail like Sherlock Holmes as obvious proof she was always bad. Especially since we now all have hindsight.
@@SammyPebbles look, I’ve tried to write this multiple times, because I can’t even begin to explain how fucked this comment is. First, I don’t really give a shit about Sienna. If a friend of mine came up to me and started talking about their friend/partner like she did in that response, I would correct that shit immediately. Second, while I wrote this after finishing the video, my stomach did a flip watching that first video. I recognized that it was fucked before we even got to some of the later responses. Calling it “hindsight” is just a blind man’s excuse. Third, and I think this is most important, my partner’s mother said some of the shit she said WORD FOR WORD. I have seen this type of language used. I’m not an expert on abuse, but I’ve seen enough to recognize signs of it.
@@SammyPebbles there waz no assumption *alot* ov abuzerz talk like that.. itz *manipulation/gaslighting*
i will never be able to understand how fame 'makes' people SA others. they always blame their 'difficult lifestyle that no one prepared them for' and is..someone needs to prepare you to not SA someone??? these kinds of people are messed up in the head
Nah its all bullshit excuses. Fame and money usually reveal one's true character. They are just shitty people from the start
I guess they think just because they're someone famous taking advances at you, you should be flatered
Watching this a year later and it is insane how she still has such a huge following and all of this has been swept under the rug.
Being embraced by Lizzo hits different nowadays
Edit: I just got to the bodyshaming allegations. Ironic.
(39:43) “It’s gonna quiet people down…” She actually admitted that bringing a legal team was to scare Jack into silence.
glad you’re not afraid to talk about female sexual assaults. “men can’t be r*ped” i feel is one of the most harmful things that can be said. best wishes to jack
Ya like the amount of times I heard people say men should enjoy it especially by older men themselves it’s just ridiculous
Boys and men are raped, by men and women. Ppl need to recognize there's no stereotype of rapist nor victim.
It's insane how many people think it can't happen
@@samcarter2644 exactly my ex-best friend said that guys should enjoy being raped. it's so invalidating and suggests further that men only want sex.
@@HopeIsADrug11037 true. Parents need to educate their daughters and sons.
This breaks my heart hearing jack speak about his SA, you can see he’s hurting and trying to stay strong
"did you eat today" seems like a genuine ana recovery promotion. i don't get the back lash
i chuckled with irony when the statements from her legal team said (paraphrased) "this is unfortunately the usual tactics used to undermine successful women of colour" because as i listened to the whole thing, it sounded like the usual tactics used to undermine victims who had the _audacity_ to come forward with their abuse.
Female or Male. No means NO! Any unwanted or not giving consent touching is assault. both sexes can be assaulted. that is why when you look up the definition of assault it doesn't say that it is gender specific. people wake up.
I think people get it. However the elites just want to walk all over the people with morals
She says she loved him but what she really loved was the control she had over him