WATCH THIS BEFORE BUYING BMW M5 E60 SMG - 10 COMMON ISSUES AND PROBLEMS
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2017
- Before purchasing the 2006 and up BMW M5 E60 SMG watch this video.
Special thanks to the guys at Motorhead Speed Shop for allowing me to use this 2006 M5 SMG.
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To clarify for people that do not understand this video at all. I am not here to tell you what you should or shouldn't buy, because in the end it is your personal choice. This video is based on my research, and my research is based on, mechanics, number of owners, and internet research. I personally wanted to buy one till I researched about this model, and I still want. The title of this video it is not " Do not buy the M5 E60 because is sh**" - this video is, when you go online or in person you start asking some questions to the owner, so that next day you do not drive a rented car. Cheers, Sam
Sam thanks for taking you time to reply. The car has indeed some issue like any other car just at different level, i agree.Having had quite a few cars I can say that this is a dream. This car makes you feel alive, blasting thru the gears at 5000+ is sureal, i love it, it is unfair for people to believe its a bad car, its got its issues and if you dont have money to spare you just dont buy it, right? I appreciate your time you spent on doing your researches.
i understand that your video is meant to make people aware that they need to afford not just buying it but maintaining it.
In all honesty. Cars just are a matter of luck. Not everybody drives the same roads, under the same conditions, etc. But being precautious always avoids an accident
Luck isn't always the factor - if we left everything to luck, as society we would be in trouble or extinct. I think take measures in your hand is important. I can tell right away if the car has been taking care, just by looking at the owner, then the car.
True. The E60 M5 is a glorious car with a glorious engine. If you budget for repairs, know common problems, and do some preventative maintenance, the E60 M5 is a joy to own.
No.11 stop worrying about all the minor issues, press the M button and enjoy the scream of the V10.....
And enjoy a motor blowup
agree
The the more m button are push the $$$$ come out your pocket
I love BMW but these E60 M5s are pieces of shit. Do some research.
It'll cost him tens of thousands of pounds to keep it working u stop worrying about him enjoying the scream and shut the he'll up ur not a car guy I'll tell u that
I've owned my 2008 BMW E60 M5 for 4 years now and nearly 50,000 miles driven. - Lets walk through some things. - 1. Coding? - Not an issue at ALL for me. 2. Rod Barrings - I haven't had an issue yet and I'm at 93,000 miles and I'm just considering this for good measure. 3. - Oil leaks? I haven't had an issue related to this year. 4. - All E60'S burn oil. It is a V10 F1 Engine. They eat oil for breakfast. This is not an issue, but a fact of reality. 5. - Vibrations? My car is smooth as butter and hard in the rails. 6. Slow Shifting? Yes. In auto. - In manual its lighting bolt fast. - If you drive your M5 in Auto, you shouldn't be driving it. 7. - Reving when you start the engine when its cold? - LOL. - YES, this V10 is a big engine, it is alarming when you wake her up if your not used to it, but it's not a negative issue AGAINST the car. 8. Suspension? These are wear and tear items. - Be a good shopper and make sure your car is maintained. - Parts need to be replaced. 9. Transmission issues? - I had to replace my SMG pump at 75,000 miles. That was a pain in the ass. 10. Expensive repairs? I'll give you that, but the repairs have been few and far between. - I'd say your review is very un-educated. - These cars for $15,000 - $25,000 pending the condition are worth every penny. The shifts are firm, hard and crisp. The enjoyment of the car well out weighs the few repair issues I've had. - These cars are sleeping super cars. - I don't know about you, but I'd rather pay these prices and have a few repairs than spend $160,000 for Ferrari or Lambo to keep similar pace and driving. - PLUS we get 4 doors!
So why is it then this car’s value has gone down the toilet? (I don’t think it’s because of my video lol)
I think it's partly due to whiners on the internet, M5 board, 5 series board, etc. Any older car drops big time in price, like right now the 2006 M5 is 13 model yeas old. The newer, more computers, newer technology. I am on my 2nd 2006 M5. Sold the first, went a different route, just bought another. My point is, yes, they can be expensive to up keep, like any very high performance vehicle, up keep is the key, most people don't do maintenance, trans flush, coolant flush, diff oil change, on and on, biggest thing, this is an 8,400 RPM engine, you HAVE to warm it up properly, many, many do not, then piss and whine about the car that they never did any maintenance on, and abused. I don't buy the whining on this car, you get out of it what you put in. It's simple, any used car, if you don't have any history on the car, don't but it, there's usually a reason there is no history..it's called neglect. Sam, you are posting your crap, from people that have to deal with neglected cars, buy one, have it checked out, maintain it instead of going on others opinions
Give it time
Props to you dude, you are right with every point. Very uneducated video.
@@SamCarLegion same reason why the e39 is at the same price range and was actually selling for 10k easily a few years back and that's everyone's favorite m5 model
The E60 M5 is a glorious car with a glorious engine. Although maintenance is a problem, with DIY knowledge, a good mechanic, some preventative maintenance, and money set aside for repairs, an E60 M5 is a perfect car.
I couldn't disagree with you. But we both agree it does have problems.
agree , love my m5 no issues
the more i hear about these problems the more im tempted to buy it im planing to drive it on the weekends mostly and fridays to beat the traffic lol
I wish you good luck. There is an old saying; where there is smoke, there is fire,
Thank you for this video
I am going to look at a 2006 m5 this week and this video was helpful
It’s a beautiful machine but is it really worth the future trouble
Don't be afraid to buy one - if you want less headaches get the manual version. It's worth the extra money. I am not here to scare people, rather to help them make a better decision. I almost bought one, till I researched the entire story behind it.
Very well summarized. Thank you for making it easier for me to decide whether to buy a 2006 M5.
If you are looking for a proper M5 go for the 2008 and up. Possibly the manual version. Also get some warranty from a third party.
2008 with 109000 miles now. This car is awesome. Sure you need to do some maintenance but it’s so worth it when you are blasting down the highway. Car was designed for high speed and feels so planted going the road. Not a high torque drag car like the f10 and newer. V10 is so amazing at high rev! Buy one as soon as you can and Love it.
2008 great model Paul!- I still love the car even though these problems were common. Dont forget to Subscribe
Paul Four In other words it feel like its towing a boat on the low end and it takes till you're at death defying speeds for it to start going fast. NO THANKS, low end torque is more important than high end speed in everyday driving and that is one of the reasons I never cared to own an e60 m5 and because everything he mentioned.
Do prey tell - What did you buy when you decided not to go for the e60?
been waiting for this video! thanks!
Great video bud!! Love the points.
Very good and helpful video bro thank you so much
We have 8 2006 M5's in our local club in our country.
Including mine that would be 9.
All bought brand new. All SMG's, all driven hard, all problem free except for one cog of death that completely reset after re-starting the car.
The rest are just regular maintenance jobs.
We do, however, change our oil, oil filters, and air filters in half the time that BMW recommends.
I am not suggesting every single E60 M5 -
It’s mostly what people should expect when they look to purchase one.
Hello sam channel and you sam!I am about to close 18 and as my 1st car i wanted really bad the m5 e60 but i did a lot of research and i saw some people have problems with it some not have a single problem on it so am like what do i do?a searced the most lowly mile m5 e60 and i saw 1 with 60kmiles and like it says that its good not probletic at all but these days you cannot trust people only from what they say and i want tips from you sam if you could say it would be wonderful cuz i worked 23 months for that and now i dont know what to do.
I wach this video after i never buy m5 thank you soo much great video
Was about to get me a 2008 but after this vid... maybe an NX200T better? Thanks for the review
I love my 06. The beast!
Cold start sounds like that naturally on E60 M5 buddy.
Exactly! They also use oil....that is totally normal with these engines.
He im looking to buy a E63 m6 year 06. I just want to ask how reliable was your m5 and how much did you spend on preventive maintenance or just all around maintenance just so i can get an idea of what to expect.
Hi, this is a very helpful video. I’m myself in the process of buying my first car and as a car enthusiast I was really really interested in the 2006 M5. Maybe I thought you could help me on my researches and have some thoughts on it. Thanks.
Sure let me know what info u need
I’m going to get this as my first car. Had my eye on a jaguar XKR ,then a Porsche 911 996. Both sold before I can get all the money to pay in full. Now I should buy this car in two months no problem since everyone is scared to buy one. It keeps prices low and enthusiast the opportunity to buy wonderful cars.
@@mynameis248 get a honda
550xi is so underrated especially the 2008 model, good alternative. I worked for BMW 3 years and drove everything from Dinan B7s to the Z Coupes (my personal fav to drive) and the M5 E60s do have their issues but as a former employee that has great respect for BMW and German automotive engineering ( I own a 2012 CLS63 my wife drives a bagged out 1970 280li ) they all cost $.... it's impossible to buy a vehicle in that class range A7, EClass or CLS Class types without having something break or have been broken. With proper monitory responsibility and a good mechanic its an obstacle thst is palatable..... Those E60 M5s though 🥲That V10 was the best sound in the world at 830 am hung over with my head out the window..... Sounded like a bullfrog getting choked underwater on an amplifier..... that noise with smelling burnt fuel out of a M5 engine with literally 1-3 miles on it before its even PDI 'd was the best cure for a hangover ever .... Miss those days......
Hey there brother, I hope you are fine.
Just a question, so in short I’ve been looking at e63/64 m6’s recently… and there is one in great condition, only 59,000 to 60,000 Miles. The owner is a close friend of ours, and he has been taking care of the car very well. Every morning he would let it warm up properly, he does oil changes frequently… always at the time.
And oh one more thing, it’s not a daily driver. He drives it sometimes only. We asked him regarding rod bearings, and he said he took perfect care of the car and he didn’t do anything to the engine, so I’m not sure if the rod bearings have been changed or no.
Should we get the rod bearings checked before buying it? Even after he has told us of how great he took care of the car? And let’s say we check the rod bearings and we see they are fine, not in bad shape… we could change later right? This rod bearing issue kinda has us scared, Hope you give advise.
Current e63 owner here (2007 w 37k). If you have a comprehensive record of service then holding off on doing the rod bearings shouldn't be an issue; however, I would recommend preventively changing them prior to 80,000 miles. Additionally, I would change them for peace of mind if you're concerned. Unless you are doing it yourself, I would not pull everything apart to check the bearings, if you do, then I would just change them. Oil tests can be inaccurate so I wouldn't rely on those. I would recommend VAC bearings w ARP bolts. Hope that helped a bit.
ROADbearings? yeah you sound like a true car guy
Accent.
Could you mind give me tips for f10 m5? Any reliability issues?
I will be making a video on that one soon - just gathering information and speaking to mechanics and owners.
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I agree with this guy coming from E63 SMG for 7 years. I would rate this car as church day or weeding day car. Unless you owed zero brand spanking new one..
Thanks for your honesty
2:00 the video actually starts
Loool Sam you are mad, I didn't expect those smashing rocks. You really drove the point home 🤣🤣🤣
I had to lol
example i have a toyota tacoma with a 5 speed stick 202000 miles on it no issues at all and they are all original miles and it still runs like new
I've owned my e60 M5 for over 3 years. Only issue so far was the throttle valve actuators. Prices are dropping buy only a matter of time before they start to go back up. Good time to buy....with caution...get it checked out. This car should not be used as a daily driver. Very enjoyable to own as long as you can afford the maintenance.
As I said not everyone has suffered - out of thousands of this sold, doesn't necessary mean they are all bad. Most mechanics agreed on this issues. I am happy you are enjoying yours. Please don't forget to subscribe if you liked the video. More coming.
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What’s a good rule of thumb for how many miles you should drive this car a year?
Trevor Odom I put on 15,000 miles a year!
I daily it for a year and cost me 7k lol
E60 m5 the best" but" car in the world !!
My opinion, if you buy one make sure it’s not a daily driver. In addition, go for newer e60 model and get a good warranty.
In reality if you question your ability to stay financially stable ( intelligent), fight the desire and “ don’t drink the cool aid”. Being able to eat healthy, take care your family and save money for the future is smarter
Great points bud!
It’s a high performance vehicle. Mines has over 100k running strong that being said I have a few bucks put a side Incase something goes wrong. Great car for the market price
#1 issue with SMG M5? People talking BS about them that know nothing. E60 M5 is the daddy. Owned one 4 years, zero issues, love it. SMG shift at over 8000rpm is almost like sex.
Road bearings?
Rod bearing
I have a 2004 bmw 545i with the smg transmission I replace the smg pump and oil, clutch smg relay, new battery and register it to the computer and still the same yesterday I was taking off on 1 gear when up to 2 3 and it dropped hard on 1 gear by it self , I also notice if I press sport mode and it fails I shift from 1 gear to 3th gear and then 5th after 10 miles it comes back to work normal , when I turn it off I will it do the same staff all over AGAIN ! If the car gets stock on reverse I have to disconnect the battery for 5 mins and then it will come back to normal ! I love my bmw smg but it's not reliable! So I bought a Lexus to go to work bmw it's just for long trips where has never fail from napa ca to Las Vegas Nevada from napa ca to Disneyland 9 hours of continuous driving no problem !
Its a shame such a great a car.
You’re stating common problems when buying any used car, and attributing it to the M5. This is an enthusiast car, and like any enthusiast car you know the golden rule. You gotta pay to play, and be fine with that.
Thats exactly what I am doing - I am not saying to buy it or even not buying it. Just make sure you check for these problems. As every other car. :)
Your title is misleading. You’re bashing the M5 based on about 5 minutes of google searches.
Thats not misleading at all - I am not saying do not buy this car? Things you need to know before purchasing this vehicle. Its not just google, mechanics, owners, forums, BMW reports, government reports on recalls, consumer ratings. The problem is that people love this car so much that they won't accept any other opinions.
here is a great article : jalopnik.com/what-its-really-like-to-own-and-operate-a-v10-bmw-m5-ev-1788425917
hahaha the e60 got a loyal fan base just dont say bad things about it .... gang gang lol
I see an 08 in my area with a manual transmission for a little over 11k. 130,000 miles
There were 2 e60 six speeds near me for sale priced right im sick every day i didnt pull the trigger its funny m5 depreciate and m3 appreciate
+little nick i would buy one too - but not 2006. Love the sound.
This is a supercar, don't expect economy maintenance. 15-20k dollars per year as a daily driver
I bought a 2007 E60 and have the control arm suspension problem, the front was making noise. Is that a must fix? What happens if I don't fix it? Plase help!
Hey Tim thanks for the comment - I wouldn’t be able to give you a professional advice, but from my experience if the rubber used in the control arm gets really soft the control arm will snap at some point. Front end noise could be anything. If you dont have the tools take it to a shop. Let me know if you need any help
It’s really depends on how much the ball joint is wobbling in the society but if you hear a rattling sound and if you have a lot of play in the steering wheel it’s probably should be done soon if it get to the point where your wheel shakes it can snap off and you can lose control of car that’s not just a bmw problem that’s normal 100k maintenance on any car
no the control arm will not snap for gods sake , control arm bushings are rubber and after time they crack and get soft , replace the arm and your good to go
@@SamCarLegion rubbish , the control arm will never snap dont talk nonesense
People are hating this video because it speaks the truth. The truth really bothers everyone! I changed my mind on buying this one long time ago because of the same research that Sam spoke about. Even my family mechanic said the same thing, stay away. Yes it does have a great engine, yes it is a cool car, no it is not the best looking M5, and yes it sounds unreal, but all these come with a high cost! Great video Sam!
Thanks!
Nah... 10 years later and other than wear part replacement it has been more reliable than any other high strung car I've ever owned... These are not Honda's, had a friend bought a Ferrari and first year $24,000 in maintenance and that example is pretty normal in the super-car world. The drive train in the E60 is at super car levels stuffed in a four door so to expect commuter car reliability is laughable!
I will say SMG is the biggest problem ! And super expensive too !
2009 M5 is Rock just buy manual its beast
i just wanna let you know i live in the toronto area
Nice
I hear all the time "problems and problems and money and again problems".
I do not agree at all!!! What a negative promotion????? Do you really believe in what you are telling/selling??? Or are you listening to the few???
Let's not exaggerate, there are about 19500 masterpieces (yes) of E60M5 cruising around the world, and about 100-200 people tops mention problems. Let's face it, the V10 is a race-engine! Of course you will hear this and that, but try to do 200'000 miles or much more f.e. with a Ferrari or another supercar and take a look at the expenses...I have to lough///because I don't believe that they hold so long or are still going.
I have one of the first 2005 models with the SMG III gearbox and I am driving it every day since, in town, to work, on the mountains and on the Autobahn, and go very often up the 8250 rpm, the engine is built for that. It loves to rev.
Of course one may destroy it when not properly driven, or when showing off, spinning around all the time and do a lot of Launch controls, put the wrong oil, or not maintain it properly, one could probably destroy even a new VW Golf in one day.
I do not Launch controls, why, one is fast enough without that! I wait to push it hard until the engine has reached his operating temperature, also wait before stopping the engine to first cool down a little bit, put in N when stopping and waiting in traffic or at the traffic lights in order to rest the clutch, as I would also do with a manual Gearbox, change oil and filters twice a year etc etc. The car demands respect and gasoline (though another car of mine "drinks" much more), but that is all. No problems whats-however. I do the correct maintenance, which is of course more expensive than with a normal car, and the M5 is just great. Not for every one I agree, it is a special car... when you change spark plugs there are 10 not 4 or 6, it needs 9 L oil from the finest...
I am long ago and still now strongly convinced that there is no other car with that power out of a natural aspirated engine with that marvelous build-quality.
Cheeeeeers
My cousin had one for 3 years or so..I think he poured gasoline on top of the car and threw a cigarette lol - he moved to M3. He says the worse BMW he has ever owned. Thanks for writing a novel about 1 owner's experience.
loool
I am sorry for him, he got a Monday's car for sure, or a very wear out one
Brand new one 20,000 km later about to go for scrap. There is a reason why price has gone down, you think BMW owners are stupid? They know the 2006 specifically has many issues.
we speak each other in 10 years and talk again about its depreciation.
A very good friend of mine was jealous and bought in 2006 his M5... if I tell you how much km he has driven so far, you will sure not believe me..
Why do you think the price drops,its because you have to change the flywheel and clutch (needs changing every 70 000 km)and other stuff.That will cost a LOT of money.
You could end up paying almost as much as you bought the car for..
Go and argue with BMW fans! They have created this idea and legend about this car.
Just did 7000 kms in 3 months... hard driven miles!... not one single problem.... rocksteady... car is a 2008...fuel consumption is out of this world though :D
+Take Down sure! I have someone that hasn’t had a single problem, but if we go by personal experience we would be making uninformed decisions.
Take Down smiles per gallon tho
What's your fuel consumption then?
Again, the whiners and the mechanics are talking about, and getting the ones in the shop that have been neglected, abused, then bitch that the car breaks...sorry, I have had 2 of the '06 M5's, I know better. Eastside Bavarian, Issaquah Wa, will tell you the rod bearing thing is a farce. The problem is, an 8,400rpm engine can't have the hell ran out of it shortly after starting it...Warm it up properly
Road bearings....... aight immma head out.
I love the e60 it got me into cars but the e30 325i is a better engine Imo
My e63 m6 has got 159,000 Miles, Grey 2006 Model. OEM rod bearings, had the car since 2007.. not a single issue except for the time the throttle actuators went out, replaced them whilst had the warranty and that was in 2011. The car is absolutely fine, instead of 10w60 I’ve been using 5w50, and I drive it daily.
People don’t understand this car, majority treat it as if it’s a Toyota “yeah bro let me hit it hard whilst it’s cold nothing will happen”, if you don’t know how to own one, then don’t get it mate.. don’t blame the car for your atrocious ownership.
This rod bearing thing is too exaggerated, take care of it and it will keep going.
(Plus It’s got Long tube catless headers with sprint mufflers)
Thinking about buying one, but obviously they wouldn't have a warranty seeing as the last model year was 2010, so any maintenance will be out of pocket.
You didn't even get to the real problems! The throttle actuators fail and are a little pricey. The dealer always seems to think a new battery for $500 will solve all of your problems. And then there's the transmission that shifts into neutral as you are driving down the highway. Even the dealer can't figure that one out. Otherwise I love it!
Great video Sam fortunately BMW made it in a manual that might solve all the transmission issues but I’m not sure how you would get around the other 9 problems hahah
just dont buy it lol
Stay away from 2006! First year, many issues. 2008 and up are much stabler.
You will need to add 1quart if oil every 2k miles or so, depends on driving style. Very normal for all M cars.
That is correct
I have a 2006 M5, no issues here
Have you done the rod bearings?
@@b12khx89 you own the lottery
I'm looking at buying one of these. Two owner car with ALL the records (from both owners) by the best Independent Bimmer guy in western PA. Yeah it's a bit of a gamble but getting a $90K/200mph car at .15 cents on the dollar seems like kind of a fun thing. I could put $10K aside for repairs etc. I have to go through the records with the mech. Wanna see what's been done or not done.
Don't daily drive it unless u have full warranty or deep pockets. Good luck.
@@SamCarLegion I'm retired and probably drive 6k per year. Would doing a Blackstone oil test regularly help ? Car is immaculate, only has 40k on it. Would be for weekend excursions only. I'm prepared for rod bearing expense.
@@banditY2K Car with 40,000 on it, wow. I hope you bit their arm off at the shoulder. Don't believe this OP video drama queen. I've had one for 4 years now and none of the specifics he has mentioned has been an issue. Drove 8 others before getting this one and ditto. That's not to say that a 200mph car does not need TLC.
1 IDC idle control valves one went at 60k and the second was replaced at 95k when the throttle actuators caused all the fairy lights to come on. I can't complain cos I was on track and the instructor kept telling me to go faster. Oh yes and an M5 on restricted power will still cruise at 110, giggle.
2 Oil cooler - had that replaced as a precaution while it was in the shop
3 Hydromotor at 100k I had it on my drive and went to move it and it was locked in gear. Motor had seized and blew a 40Amp fuse. Master tech changed it and the special fluid that was black. Al fine now - well as fine as it ever was.
4 AGM battery - Mine lasted 11 years and was only killed by the two trackers fitted one of which went bananas.
5 SOS failure - bluetooth module goes flaky meaning you can't take or make phone calls.
6 Yes, it consumes a lot of oil but only above 4,000 rpm. Just carry a litre of Castrol 5W-60 with you at all times. Oil tests, hmm. Just change it when OBC says its time is up. Depends on usage max 2 years.
7 Yes, it is thirsty. Oh FFS it is a 5 litre v10 with a 8,200 red line. It sounds so good that you won't care. 99RON from Shell every time. Sometimes I go to same garage to fill up twice in same day.
8 Seat thigh support cogs - just replace the cogs - no Biggy
9 Active seats - If not working pull the back off and check the connectors down low next they can come apart I was lucky motors had not burnt out as that is expensive.
10 Windscreen if yours cracks be sure to get the condensation sensor replaced by BMW.
Yes, there is a big range in prices between a 100k example on trade in and a 50k example on a forecourt with a warranty.
No need to kick tyres just check they are Michelin PS2, PS4, PS4s or SuperSports
Video is b.s. have 2 m5 driven over 80k on both 06 and 08 ..only had to replace oil cooler
I wish I had a good reason to be watching this video
Talk to me - what happened? Why so sad?
I mean I wish I was actually going to buy an E60 M5 hahah
Depreciation is an issue in general with all BMWs.
If you want a slower pace depreciation and semi affordable buy Porsche.
For you track fun, I would look at 2008 Audi RS4. Just as fun as M5, and that’s coming from E60 M5 owner and it only comes in manual. This car will run you ~30k with lower kilometers. The prices have been creeping up.
+Eric Paz I am thinking of Audi RS4 - or porsche 911 Turbo. Thanks for the comment :) and don’t forget to sub if you haven’t.
try an RS4 or RS6 than you see what really means to have expenses. Try Maserati or Lexus, incredible expensive, much more than the E60M5
And with depreciation, we tell each other in 10-15 years, than we see what the selling price will be to get one...
I keep mine for sure and take it to my grave :)
Just saw it on auction. Can't wait to burn 💰 😂😂😂
#6 EDC failure #7 fuel leak #8 money loss lol. I have an E63
I was actually thinking of getting one myself. Would you recommend that M6 or you think it’s just not worth all the trouble?
l am an owner of 2008 M5 E60. l bought 6years ago with 60k km. rihgt now it is in 180k km. l drive it daily and also l have driven to europe tour around 7k km. l live in Azerbaijan. l havent faced to any big problems. l changed rod bearing in 100k km without any demand to repearing. and l use only castrol oil. just keep in mind DO NOT LOUNCH CONTROL if you do you will be face to face very big issues. and do not use 92 93 octanes. l use only 98 octane. l don not know about America or Canada what you use. but it is excactly important to use avaiable fuel. my car with SMG. and l changed pump of oil in 120k km and it works without any problem. this car has some demands and you have to provide them. because it is V10. believe me you can hurt many people with this car. in Germany authoban l drove it 330. l overtaken Lamborghini gallardo in 320kmh. this is the fastest sedan in its age. Love this car❤️
you won the lottery.
@@SamCarLegion yesss)))
I'm gona buy
u should
Sam CarLegion yes 😂😂 507hp💪
The best of luck :)
Sam CarLegion thank you bro ;)
Seriously, its a powerful sedan, but make sure to keep those points in mind. Very important. Check with the owner if he has done any work.
I don’t care what people say alright. I have 2 of em 2008 edition, manual n smg one, I’m gonna keep manual one for my self god willing, the smg one I’ll be selling or parting out, even if i loose money no problem cuz i have formula 1 v10 m5. That i can beat italian shiny cars, watching from Los Angeles, if anyone needs some parts then just reply.
Read this before buying BMW M5 E60 SMG....
Get manual version.
If you can find one
For a split second i thought that was Jay Leno
owned mine 2 years Horn went out and sometimes the PDC says it's failed but it's just because I cleaned the car.. rod bearings can be done for £1500 at a good shop but then it's good for 60k miles so.. Throttle actuators can be rebuild inc the boards for a few £100 so it's a bargain car.
+Karina Fletcher different in Uk - different in North America
The guy who rebuilds the Actuators ships worldwide, You can get his info off the Facebook E60 M5 owners club :), It's an amazing car though if you're prepared to have it as a second :D
+Karina Fletcher in North America the part could easily be found even in a scrap yard! Labour is the most expensive part in here, mostly in Canada. Unless you can fix it yourself. Thanks for sharing your info.
Husband is a BMW M car tech for his job, We're moving to Canada in the future also, Calgary area.
+Karina Fletcher amazing! Gas is cheap here - labour is expensive. You will love it here though, cars are not too expensive. Don’t forget to Subscribe. Got some more BMW videos coming.
I was looking at a 2008 m5 with 60 thousand miles..mmmmm
And People say kia is a BAd Car ?
Good video thank you very much 🤝
Who cares about the price drop.The sound is why I'm trading in my 2007 545l.lt almost cost the same and has similarities in problems but that's bmw tuff love.
You are buying it just for the sound? Interesting way of making decisions.
Biggest issue when it comes to these models is the rod bearings, second would be the trans... other than that, it’s a great car.
..but those two things could cost around the same amount you paid for the damn car!
So when buying one, it’s best to have it checked out, VERY THOROUGHLY, or you could be literally throwing away 15-20k !
Cause... what are ya gonna’ do ? Buy the car and 20 months later pay almost the original cost AGAIN just to keep it running!??
One of the most sketchy buys that exists today... unless you’re someone with mechanic friends or a mechanic yourself, that is able to work on BM’s
Best car 2001 es300 lexus. I have 59k miles. No issues. Hell with a bmw
a rebadged Toyota... too boring.
Rod Bearings... not road bearings...
Sure :)
Wow, you never even mentioned the vanos system bro. An any m5 v10 under the year 2010 has a strong chance of the vanos given you a problem. It happened to my 06. An I didn't even have it for 7 months b4 that gave me problems. An everyone I went to gave me a price between 10-18 thousand dollars to fix!!! No bullshit, so definitely inquire about that other than that. You'll get issues like the ones he mentioned? So good luck an really take your time. The E60 hasn't gotten so cheap for no reason. 👍
Some people (fraction) say I am wrong about this video and apparently we have someone with bad experience. Also, I mentioned the most common problems. Cheers bud!
Well I just gave up on that option...
Dont - just be careful when you look for one.
Bottom end goes and it’s a common fault
U buy race car u pay to drive. Had two first one took a beating everyday for 2 years and sold just got another just basic stuff.
Every car has its issues especially when neglected
BS on this video, you don't know anything about this car. Vibration what vibration what noise. Rod bearings at 70,000 miles plus that's it
+Mr. Eurocarturboit fron end vibration - clunk noise due to control arms, mostly bushings. Most mechanics i spoke to agree on these points.
Sam CarLegion , I have had two M5s both in 6sp. One with over 100k miles and one that I still have with 26k miles. I can tell you first hand that I have never had any of this happen to my cars. Rod bearings do need to be changed around 75k miles. But other than that this is a solid car and your review is scaring people away from it.
You won the lottery - go and tell the same to the mechanics and another 10 people I know. Also, just a quick search on google will tell you much more. Plus this isn't a 6 speed - it's an SMG. Please pay attention to the video people! 2006 M5 SMG, not manual not 2008, not for every M5, not telling people not to buy or even buy. THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!!
No he didn't, you keep reading internet forums where human nature is to bitch about problems and very few seek-out a forum to tell of their no issue. This car is no different than any car with the power train that is within it. These cars are driven at peak by most drivers so to compare this against standard boring commuter cars is a joke. How many super-cars have you been around, how many at this level have extreme maintenance protocols? Sure there are wear components that need replacement and more frequent than a car driven at normal use. These cars are never driven at normal use hence they require greater maintenance. Why does the suspension wear, please tell of a Honda that weights 4,000#'s and goes into a corner approaching 1G and will not need heavy maintenance? Your conclusions are hyperbole and any car at this level with a high strung power train the weak of heart should absolutely stay away from, but for the few that understand the nature of cars at this level they will enjoy immensely as do those that pay for super-car level maintenance.
Rod bearings? Change the oil every 3,000 miles. Drive 200mph change it every 2,000. There's your lottery ticket to a healthy engine sam car legion
Road bearings lol he must mean Rod
E60 m5 sounds to scary to own out of Warranty
More than scary
I gotta warranty but still not helping
Its a 100k vehicle, of course it will cost a lot of money to maintain.....
I know alot of 100k sports cars that costs a 10th of this to maintain.
Simple: if you don't have the money to maintain or repair the car don't buy a M :)))
thats a reason not to buy one
I have an 07. All I gotta say is that you better have deep pockets
Thanks for confirming:)
My pockets have a lot of holes even tho I gotta 2010 model
This car will one day be in very high demand. Buy the 2010 E60/E63..
+Sam Toure even though I made a video about the common problems- I absolutely agree it will be very desirable due to the F1 engine and all the Top Gear and Fifth Gear videos. And honestly I am keeping an eye for one! Thanks for the comment don’t forget to Subscribe:)
the manual one s are very rare, that s a collecters car.
Rattling is from vanos needing maintenace
And from soft bushings
You forgot venos problem.
too many to add lol
25K..... What naw i like them but not that bad I'll just get the G8 GXP for that price
Slim Docs I love that fact you said you want a GXP. I’ve wanted one for so long 😭😭
This vid gets a thumbs down 👎🏽 from me because the editor’s knowledge seemed very limited, and seemed like he’d never owner any kind of powerful machine!
SISTIC1 owned*
see this why you drive sticks not automatics or junkomatics as i call them and this goes for any vehicle not just bmw automatics just suck on a lot of levels
I’ve concluded: This car isn’t worth it! For one to purchase a vehicle with so many negatives just to enjoy the V10 is silly, to say the least! What will u get If you purchase this vehicle: 1) Endless acceleration 2) 200mph top speed 3) beautiful sounding engine/exhaust 4) very very very bad fuel economy 5) expensive insurance 6) expensive premium cost of parts 7) reliability issues 8) expensive repairs 9) expensive tyres 10) stress/fear of something really expensive needing repairing 11) outdated cockpit technology 12) expensive road tax 13) oil leaks..... I’d rather buy a newer less expensive vehicle to run! Let’s face it, unless u live in Saudi Arabia (where petrol is about 5 cent a litre), it’ll be hard to maintain running costs!
I’m a fan of BMW too but the company they screw up the customers, we spend money 💰 a lot for the car but not last long I don’t trust them bmw anymore.
When you drive this car you have pray every day to the god.
Very ignorant review
Thats all you have to say? Doesn’t make you any smarter.
You are strictly going on what the whiners tell you, cars, like any that have been neglected, wait 'till shit breaks and then piss and whine to a mechanic or online about a car they did no service on whatsoever. Rod bearings? It's because idiots don't let the engine warm up properly, SMG? Have it "flushed" every 30K miles, etc, on and on. It is ALL about maintenance, peroid
Road bearings hahah
Number 11... By far the biggest problem... Keyboard drivers!
We have a keyboard warrior in here.
Sam CarLegion where?
Number 12: Throttle actuators. 13: Air intake sensors. 14: Fuel pump 15: Need purchase petrol station
This video getting so much hate... lol
Fake-car guys will be scared of the prospects of this car.
But not us.
Not us.
Brave men
Sam CarLegion
We are not brave.
We are just a genuine car lover.
E60 m5:
• fix vanos leak
• replace rod bearings
• replace throttle actuators
• replace smg hydraulic pump
Done!
S85 is a great engine.
Even m156s have problems like head bolts, cam adjuster plates, valve buckets etc... but this engine, although being the first truly AMG developed engine, isn't unique... it was used even upto the sls.
But s85 is the last n/a v10.
Enough said.
The real problem is finding a truly late model in good condition... (~2010 model e60 with good options)
Got nothing to do with being brave.
We genuinely love cars.
Now, an s85 in an e9 with reinforced chassis with manual gearbox... now, that is pure sex. (But I bet you don't even know what an e9 is... lol)
There hundreds of videos of the M5 E60 engine declared as total f*** up by owners and other youtubers. You speak to BMW mechanics and ask them for the M5 E60 that you want to purchase one: they will tell you you are mad to buy one. This car is great, if kept in the garage 80% of the time. They took an F1 base engine and use on a family sedan and the wrong transmission.
Sam CarLegion
Remember when I mentioned "fake car guys"?
That's you.
You and your factory warranties & "BMW" mechanics etc 🤣🤣🤣
I didn't even have to point it out.
You proved who you are haha
No wonder you're getting so much hate.
It's you against the world, ain't it?
You're right, and everybody is wrong. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What do you do?
A mid-level accountant or something?
(Probably not even that... 🤪🤪)
Good luck with life, loser. Lol
You clearly know me in person and don't have the b**** to tell me on my face. Well based on the likes and dislikes and views, people are actually liking this. But hey? if you watched the video, mission completed.
Basically, if u enjoy spending money on repairs, buy this car!
I was considering buying a M5, but with all these mechanical problems. I rather stick with E55 AMG :)
You have made the right choice - I love the E60 M5 but If you head over to BMW forums you won't find much love over there lol
It's only half of the problem s
did he just said road bearings
Did he just say*
as it seems to be, I'm not a native english speaker
I said: rod bearings
2:45
Yes rod bearings - I am assuming you heard road bearings
You didn't mention all the internal engine problems. Great car but only if you're mechanically inclined, have a decent workshop, and not afraid to work on the yourself.
You know jack shit about the M5. Every car has its mechanical issues after a certain mileage. Some cost more to repair, and some cost less. I had a 2000 Bmw 3 series sedan a while back and I spent around $2500 on a few parts because it had a high mileage..
2010 is the year to buy
+Bader Al-Awdi agreed! Don’t forget to Subscribe. I will be doing another video.
I gotta 2010 models. 2 engine replacement,and smg problems at 57k on the dash
Get an 06 M5 or M6, problems would've been fixed.
and make sure it is manual