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    Old Guy REACTS to JINJER - PISCES | Composer Point of View

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  • @KeyOfGeebz
    @KeyOfGeebz  3 роки тому +909

    Well look what I found while doing some research - just released yesterday too!! "How Jinjer's Tatiana Shmayluk Learned to Scream" ua-cam.com/video/UBrqWYMBm60/v-deo.html

    • @EZMETAL
      @EZMETAL 3 роки тому +21

      You have to check them alive, there are a recent concert they did, Strandkorb Open Air 2020, that there's almost no effects (just a few reverb and delay maybe) in Tatiana's voice. Worth a check!
      Great react and yes, the drummer is just fantastic!

    • @EZMETAL
      @EZMETAL 3 роки тому +11

      Here the Strandkorb video
      ua-cam.com/video/RVwaMNtwmK0/v-deo.html

    • @ThePandaMike
      @ThePandaMike 3 роки тому +27

      Yessir. Most vocalists do this naturally and Tatiana is one of the next level females doing this with very little effort after all the practice she’s out in. Loooooooved your reaction to one of my favorite songs.

    • @murphyoconnor12
      @murphyoconnor12 3 роки тому +9

      She got her screaming from otep shamaya

    • @bigrob966
      @bigrob966 3 роки тому +7

      It's awesome you went looking. You gotta check out OTEP for one of the OG female growlers.

  • @goforit7595
    @goforit7595 3 роки тому +3606

    3:58 Geebz: "I was expecting like a rock kind of a......."
    Me: *giggles

    • @ManSubhu
      @ManSubhu 3 роки тому +18

      No, no you weren't. :p

    • @MumbyHitsDrums
      @MumbyHitsDrums 3 роки тому +51

      That's funny. I thought the same thing, "giggles" when he said that and knowing what was coming when he resumed play, lol.

    • @evana4622
      @evana4622 3 роки тому +29

      I laughed so hard at 6:45 am on a Monday, I'm sure my neighbors think I'm insane

    • @donkrodinger2353
      @donkrodinger2353 3 роки тому +29

      ROFL. exactly. "I was expecting like a rock kind of..... 4 seconds go by..... RAAAAWWWWWWR"

    • @levischorpioen
      @levischorpioen 3 роки тому +42

      It really never gets old, huh? xD

  • @Andy-th9kj
    @Andy-th9kj 3 роки тому +2005

    "We're probably gonna get into the hook soon"
    Everyone - "LOL you don't even know"

  • @Ghoulstille
    @Ghoulstille 3 роки тому +1013

    It's always amusing to see people's faces when she turns on the growl.

    • @skaisnotdead
      @skaisnotdead 3 роки тому +10

      It's the best omg

    • @evenamber
      @evenamber 3 роки тому +8

      I agree, everyone is always blown away by that

    • @parrarides4504
      @parrarides4504 3 роки тому +3

      Even myself every time I here this song I get the goosebumps

    • @maRanTCaseYga237
      @maRanTCaseYga237 3 роки тому +2

      I know right!. Did that to my mom.
      "That's a girl!"
      This isnt their heavier songs. [Better songs for sure]

    • @MetaFootballTV
      @MetaFootballTV 3 роки тому

      What a waste.

  • @mgdrummer78
    @mgdrummer78 3 роки тому +941

    We played with them in Providence, it's her voice, no effects. Of course there's post production here, but live she pulls it off

    • @HaqimHimself
      @HaqimHimself 3 роки тому +12

      Whats your band man

    • @mgdrummer78
      @mgdrummer78 3 роки тому +36

      @@HaqimHimself at that time On Your Deathbed

    • @dominikweber4305
      @dominikweber4305 2 роки тому +5

      I saw them in munich, was a legendary show

    • @Kholdaimon
      @Kholdaimon 2 роки тому +11

      Well, there are effects, even live... They add reverb to fatten the sound of her voice, most, if not all, growlers do that... It is her voice, but without the effect it wouldn't have the intensity... Which is fine btw, as long as it sounds good, IMO....

    • @mgdrummer78
      @mgdrummer78 2 роки тому +42

      @@Kholdaimon Well, of course there's some effects from the soundboard, every singer and band has that, but what I was getting at is that a lot of people tend to think that she can only growl with effects pedals and what not which isn't true. I had the pleasure of watching her run through her various growls backstage before they went on and believe me she can growl with the best of them!! Now there are some singers like Tim from V.O.D. and Maynard from TOOL that actually utilize pedal boards w/ effects pedals but she definitely did not.

  • @mathickling223
    @mathickling223 3 роки тому +589

    "This singer has a beautiful voice..." "I was expecting a rock kind of a..." 10/10 for perfect lines in a first time reaction video before that drop hahaha

  • @richk2690
    @richk2690 3 роки тому +271

    The bit that everyone forgets is, English isn’t even her first language. Really makes it so much more impressive.

    • @TSotP
      @TSotP 3 роки тому +15

      I'm not actually that sure it is... I mean, it is, but listen to a band like ABBA or Ramstein speaking and they have heavy accents. Singing seems to totally remove any real influence from accents.
      And how many weebs out there can sing the full Japanese intro to their favourite Anime and not understand a single word of what they are saying? (same goes for English speaking Ramstein fans as well)

    • @1WEareBUFO1
      @1WEareBUFO1 3 роки тому +4

      Don't rely on me and I won't deceive.

    • @GoalOrientedLifting
      @GoalOrientedLifting 3 роки тому +1

      It's not that impressive. English is my second language, and i talk with a decent accent. But can sing, easily without it

    • @danjackson1016
      @danjackson1016 2 роки тому

      Not really to be honest. There's a ridiculous amount of non native English speaking singers and bangs. Just from the metal scene you've got opeth, avatar and gojira that spring to mind but I'm sure there'll be more that I can't think of/ just don't know aren't native speakers.

    • @leakifolog
      @leakifolog 2 роки тому +7

      @@TSotP Singing and speaking use different parts of the the brain. There are people with brain injuries that can no longer speak yet can still sing. The accent in English singing - mostly converging on a North America rhotic sound independent of native accent - is a cultural phenomenon owing to the prevalence of recorded music and other media produced in North America.

  • @devileanblack
    @devileanblack 3 роки тому +289

    Him: I was expecting like a rock kind of...
    Jinjer: How about some molten lava metal...

  • @ouroborosrecords
    @ouroborosrecords 3 роки тому +273

    I'm a simple man, I see a reaction video for Jinger - Pisces, I watch. One of my favorite pastimes is getting people who don't listen to metal to watch this.

  • @stephenknox2346
    @stephenknox2346 3 роки тому +875

    No effects beyond what is normally used for cleans. Reverb, chorus, track doubling, etc. I've seen them live several times and have been close enough to hear her without coming through the PA. She is a vocal monster, check out Judgement and Punishment one take to see it in an isolated studio setting, or Retrospection live to see it on stage. Amazing band too, Eugene is one of my favorite bassists in the game.

    • @Drath__
      @Drath__ 3 роки тому +11

      Here are her unprocessed vocals a couple minutes in. ua-cam.com/video/U655IytKPnk/v-deo.html

    • @jinjerjunkie
      @jinjerjunkie 3 роки тому +14

      I agree, I would say the post processing on this version affects her clean vocals more than her harsh vocals.

    • @auto1nfanticid3
      @auto1nfanticid3 3 роки тому +5

      theres totally effects. you can hear two diff voices in her scream

    • @stephenknox2346
      @stephenknox2346 3 роки тому +20

      @@auto1nfanticid3 That is just track doubling, it highlights the over and undertones. Exactly the same as the cleans. I'm sure she had a hidden effects unit wired into her throat when I was standing 10 feet away from her.

    • @auto1nfanticid3
      @auto1nfanticid3 3 роки тому +5

      @@stephenknox2346 i have heard her raw vocals, it isnt this. yes she is screaming, no it doesnt sound like that naturally. also reverb and other effects can be added at the mixing board of a live concert, they dont require anything directly attached to the mic. you even admit there is studio magic done here so i dont know what youre on about. if track doubling is an effect to make a voice sound fuller (it is) then she is using effects to achieve this sound.
      shes a great vocalist but no one achieves these sounds naturally, female or otherwise.

  • @1of9everytime38
    @1of9everytime38 3 роки тому +455

    Jinjer Perennial live at Wacken that will let you know everything you need to know

    • @dwarvensmith80
      @dwarvensmith80 3 роки тому +23

      Also the official live video of Who Is Gonna Be The One...and if there's still doubt, Judgement (&Punishment) one take vocal performance.

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule 3 роки тому +6

      I would actually say the perennial version from their newest show posted from Australia before Covid hit. Her vocals are easier to hear and she does a PHENOMENAL job at that show showcasing what she can do.

    • @OsirisNeits
      @OsirisNeits 3 роки тому +4

      Don't forget Teacher, Teacher.

    • @Shake69ification
      @Shake69ification 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, this is a great recommendation. She switches from guttural to clean more rapidly.

    • @stoppelstobbe5208
      @stoppelstobbe5208 3 роки тому

      yas boi thats so good

  • @bronwen4693
    @bronwen4693 3 роки тому +160

    My new hobby is watching people react to Tatiana’s awesomeness...

    • @robertmurray7018
      @robertmurray7018 Рік тому +3

      Mine too, especially love it when they pause it to react just before the first change

  • @binxosaurus
    @binxosaurus 3 роки тому +134

    I love it, LOVE IT when musicians react to this song, because they recognize the drums and bass are killing it. I mean yes, the vocals are also top notch, but this WHOLE BAND has got some talent.

    • @KeyOfGeebz
      @KeyOfGeebz  3 роки тому +19

      Thank you Terah! 🤙🤙

  • @Kodanikage
    @Kodanikage 3 роки тому +351

    No effects, just Tatiana summoning demons from the depth of little metal soul. React to Jinjer's Perennial Live from Wacken and you'll see what I mean.

    • @lesseroun0
      @lesseroun0 3 роки тому +15

      Actually there are effects added, but not much, just little bit of "chorus" effect sometimes. Perennial at Wacken rocks!!

    • @enabId
      @enabId 3 роки тому +7

      @@lesseroun0 I watched another vocal coach react to this and he said that there were only minor reverb effects on the mic. Just giving her voice a little extra power, but otherwise all her. This was a Live Session too which is crazy for all the instrumentation.

    • @bccr13
      @bccr13 3 роки тому +4

      no effects is total bs. nothing wrong with it but to deny it is naive

    • @UncleTrog
      @UncleTrog 3 роки тому +4

      Pretty sure the band have said that there is some doubling (chorus) and a bit of distortion added on this version. Live she just has some doubling.

    • @lesseroun0
      @lesseroun0 3 роки тому +1

      @@enabId Exactly m8, Reverb is more precisely said. and we can hear efect when tatiana sings :"I grew in different normality", and also in second chorus words "blaze virgin innocence" .. "brings life" word "world" in underworld is also enchanced. We can hear reverb every time Tatiana's voice splits in many.

  • @bobmcbride1487
    @bobmcbride1487 3 роки тому +171

    When Tatiana opens her mouth, The planet stops moving and everyone listens to Metal perfection.

  • @persephonehughes9959
    @persephonehughes9959 3 роки тому +88

    "I was expecting like a rock kind of..."
    I literally said "Just wait my dude" out loud

  • @batz9100
    @batz9100 3 роки тому +94

    Her scream is just naturally that good!

  • @WorldsOkayestGuitarDemos
    @WorldsOkayestGuitarDemos 3 роки тому +225

    “I can feel the hook is coming”
    Bwahaha...

  • @rehannoor4961
    @rehannoor4961 3 роки тому +56

    You are probably the only reactor I never skip the comments section.

  • @rtek777
    @rtek777 3 роки тому +164

    There's no effects. Thats all her. She does it live and she is among the best with her vocal ability

    • @zambomaan
      @zambomaan 3 роки тому +26

      I have seen her live and she definitely growls perfectly then as well, but this particular recording definitely has effects to amplify the experience (which of course is no problem, it sounds very cool). At some points in the screams you can for instance hear two or more different screams layered on top of each other (example: 7:32 in this video, the high note scream is two completely different screams layered). In the bridge section they also double her clean vocals, which is another effect, which again is a cool addition

    • @martinnikolov38
      @martinnikolov38 3 роки тому +2

      She’s still got a fresh voice. Over the next decade you’ll see it fade which is sad bad we will always appreciate it

    • @HenriqueErzinger
      @HenriqueErzinger 2 роки тому +11

      @@martinnikolov38 if you do it right, with proper technique, growls do not damage your voice. The fact she can go straight back into clean vocals without strains is evidence of proper technique.

    • @joaoaugustolandim
      @joaoaugustolandim 3 місяці тому

      @@zambomaan Yeah. Mixing effects. But what he meant was that it has no effects to make it seems like she's growling. She's really growling because she has the technique.

  • @JimMulvaney
    @JimMulvaney 3 роки тому +130

    The guitar pedal kicks and Tatiana flips his whole world upside down. LMAO! "Pisces swimming through the river, all their life against the stream. Searching for a hook to catch on, to see their sun beam and suffocate in painful torture. On cutting tables of callous men, under the knife of handsome butchers. Emeralds are ripped away, Emeralds are Ripped Away, EMERALDS ARE RIPPED AWAY, EMERALDS ARE RIPPED AWAAAAAAAY!" ❤️💙💜😍💜💙❤️

  • @sportscardsplus318
    @sportscardsplus318 3 роки тому +239

    Devin Townsend "Kingdom" Live for EMG TV. The rabbit whole runs deep with him. Unbelievable musician and producer. . Steve Vai discovered him 30 years ago. You will be pleasantly surprised

    • @adamp2056
      @adamp2056 3 роки тому +12

      He is a beast. " watch me shred this solo"
      Plays a single chord

    • @Olorin13
      @Olorin13 3 роки тому +1

      Good choice, I would like to hear his thoughts on that one too. Also this one: ua-cam.com/video/DrDM6V08wcE/v-deo.html

    • @grungegrumpy3585
      @grungegrumpy3585 3 роки тому +1

      Try the Retinal Circus version for a first reaction, for a change. From a composition pov that offers so many more layers (!) than the EMGTV rendition.

    • @az_atheist
      @az_atheist 3 роки тому +2

      DO NOT DO THE EMGTV video, do the official live video for the song. It is so much better with the full band.

    • @andycollins4936
      @andycollins4936 3 роки тому +4

      @spomajom As a composer, I would prefer for him to look at Genesis, Higher or something from Deconstruction like The Mighty Masturbator. Kingdom is great as a vocal but it's composition is fairly simple.

  • @DumbassCanadianGuy
    @DumbassCanadianGuy 3 роки тому +57

    Seriously addictive watching reactions to this song

    • @zachariaspanzerfaust5029
      @zachariaspanzerfaust5029 3 роки тому +1

      I mean , right? It´s fcking priceless, I´ve seen dozens of people react to Pisces and it just never gets old lol

  • @FatalPurpose
    @FatalPurpose 3 роки тому +73

    10:20 "The drummer..."
    Vlad is an absolute monster!!! Fun fact, the band actually filmed this video to highlight Vlad joining the band as the original track of Pisces didn't have all of the ghost notes and other flare he brought to this live session version. Because of the way this song is structured though - the soft, gentle intro/verse into that explosive chorus - this video is what got them to really explode in popularity.
    Love the videos buddy, best of wishes to you!
    Edit: Also, that is Tatiana's real voice! I've seen them live and they put on one of the best concerts I've ever seen!

    • @PaulGuy
      @PaulGuy 2 роки тому

      That's super cool, because I love the drummer's work on this song.

    • @Nalianna
      @Nalianna 2 роки тому

      You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?

    • @ireallyreallyhategoogle
      @ireallyreallyhategoogle 10 місяців тому

      The video is amazing and really shows how good they all are.

  • @swapticsounds
    @swapticsounds 3 роки тому +22

    *ballad singing*
    you: "I was expecting some rock"
    *metal riff and growls kick in*

  • @camlloyd3321
    @camlloyd3321 3 роки тому +184

    The growl is all Tatiana, there are a few post production effects but they are not adding as much as you would think. Check out Perennial live at Wacken to see for yourself.

    • @jayhegener3028
      @jayhegener3028 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, that’s the key takeaway... not as much as people think. She sounds nearly this good in many live videos.

    • @bucklanddarrell3911
      @bucklanddarrell3911 3 роки тому +2

      The big thing I notice is how low it gets. Lots of other examples her voice isn't so low, so there's a filter which is adding a low-end tone that she doesn't naturally have, but the fact she can do this at all is impressive.

    • @cosmicrunner
      @cosmicrunner 3 роки тому +5

      @@bucklanddarrell3911 She does get that low. They could have layered the sound for the recording of this song, but she definitely goes this low (sometimes lower) live (I've seen it). Check out 4:02 here: ua-cam.com/video/U6rv5qi8-8s/v-deo.html

    • @camlloyd3321
      @camlloyd3321 3 роки тому +4

      @@bucklanddarrell3911 Have you not seen Who is Gonna be the one live yet? I challenge you to watch that, and tell me she doesn't get that low.

    • @timmokoo5679
      @timmokoo5679 3 роки тому +3

      @@jayhegener3028 Yea, she's very good but to be fair, there are lots of effects going on live too.

  • @paulmassey9284
    @paulmassey9284 3 роки тому +46

    She has a natural voice. I was lucky to see them live last year and at 56 years old i have seen a lot of metal bands.this was one of the best.

    • @paulmassey9284
      @paulmassey9284 3 роки тому

      @Lauren Fazenbaker wow you got a high five. I was down the front and got some good pics.

    • @paulmassey9284
      @paulmassey9284 3 роки тому

      @Lauren Fazenbaker where did you see them? I saw then at Newcastle uk.

    • @paulmassey9284
      @paulmassey9284 3 роки тому

      @Lauren Fazenbaker wow Ohio. Sounds nice?

    • @NikkLiberos
      @NikkLiberos 3 роки тому

      I was about to see them in Memphis TN, but then the pandemic hit. I do not even know if they rescheduled that yet.

    • @rog2224
      @rog2224 3 роки тому

      @@NikkLiberos They're doing a few, smaller crowd continental europe gigs at the moment.

  • @alexiz.7569
    @alexiz.7569 3 роки тому +40

    Tatiana is a legend, she sound like this live also

  • @Plhoracio
    @Plhoracio 3 роки тому +12

    The gutural is natural, Tatiana is killing it!

  • @scottkidder8631
    @scottkidder8631 3 роки тому +113

    Nightwish - Ghost Love Score. As a composer it is a symphony you will be BLOWN AWAY by.

    • @meekema3353
      @meekema3353 3 роки тому +5

      I raise your bid with exellent musicians. ;-) Please do Ghost Love Score

    • @shereengonzalez1911
      @shereengonzalez1911 3 роки тому +1

      Definitely!!! ua-cam.com/video/JYjIlHWBAVo/v-deo.html

    • @GenDesperado
      @GenDesperado 3 роки тому

      i raise the bid also

    • @Skraeling1000
      @Skraeling1000 3 роки тому

      Abso-fricking-lutely! Do it, oh great de-composer! You'll not regret it!

    • @dalejones9459
      @dalejones9459 3 роки тому +2

      Yes and make sure you watch the official live video from wakken

  • @nastinattilight
    @nastinattilight 3 роки тому +49

    "Teacher, Teacher" is probably the best example of their musicianship. It is another official video, but really shows the talent level of the whole group on a much higher level, in my opinion of course.

    • @madcracker84
      @madcracker84 3 роки тому

      Agreed. It's a much more versatile song.

    • @chrisgoldston9755
      @chrisgoldston9755 3 роки тому

      Yep...the video version is cool, but there are also two ‘official’ live versions that are killer as well 😎🔥🤘

    • @mhariebaniqued3287
      @mhariebaniqued3287 2 роки тому

      totally agree

  • @bennyharderguitar
    @bennyharderguitar 3 роки тому +8

    No effects on her voice. Just pure skill. She’s incredible.

  • @akashicvizion
    @akashicvizion 3 роки тому +15

    A little tip for 'rewinding' consistently: a tap of the 'j' key will back up 10 seconds, whether playing or paused-- *love* seeing people's reaction when Tatiana kicks in her 'chest voice'!!

  • @williamvieira6906
    @williamvieira6906 3 роки тому +99

    Has anyone requested Gojira yet? If not a great place to start with them would be "The Gift of Guilt" they're a phenomenal band!

    • @lenn7272
      @lenn7272 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed, very unique too. Love them.

    • @elwaltz7376
      @elwaltz7376 3 роки тому +2

      I would go with Explosia or Flying Whales because it builds up very nice

    • @Wnuwk
      @Wnuwk 3 роки тому

      He’s done some already. I would love to see Flying Whales

  • @Itsunclegabby
    @Itsunclegabby 3 роки тому +5

    Yet another rabbit hole I'm excited and thrilled to see you stumble down. Jinjer is a breath of fresh air. Hearing them kind of ignited my excitement for new music; haven't felt that in a long time.

    • @Itsunclegabby
      @Itsunclegabby 3 роки тому

      @@Midnightmidway Plenty to explore.

  • @m.vondrake5534
    @m.vondrake5534 3 роки тому +14

    That "Jazz" element from an eastern European band shows how deeply talented they are. This is not one of my favorite bands but wow, I so respect their abilities.

  • @gregmousted4010
    @gregmousted4010 3 роки тому

    Really love your channel! shedding light on the technical aspects is real interesting!

  • @xxxsss0
    @xxxsss0 3 роки тому +129

    Watch her single take of judgment and punishment or the live recording of perennial and you'll understand they don't need the post

    • @djsjjd15
      @djsjjd15 3 роки тому

      This whole genre sucks. One singer, fine. But for everyone to do the same vocals that take zero talent - anyone can "sing" like that it's just a question of how long your vocal cords can handle it - and who cares?

    • @Iprodeltaelite
      @Iprodeltaelite 3 роки тому +5

      @@djsjjd15 *sigh* long way to go my friend

    • @GRIMMGent
      @GRIMMGent 3 роки тому +5

      @@djsjjd15 zero talent? You should go have a talk with those people who are doing some amazing screams and growls, how much it takes to get that done properly, not everyone can sing like that. There are even videos of some dude going around to ask people to do it and as good as all of them fail miserably... And secondly, many vocal coaches and experts on singing have agreed by now that if you do the growling and screaming the right way, it's not at all harmful for your vocal chords. Not one bit. Inform yourself before you start bitching on something you don't know shit about.

    • @theclow614
      @theclow614 3 роки тому

      oh this would be amazing

    • @xxxsss0
      @xxxsss0 3 роки тому +3

      @@djsjjd15 dude you try growling like that... You can't... And then try going straight in to singing. You can't, and she isn't damaging her vocal cords based off the fact that she can. You're comment sucked. You should stop commenting.

  • @j.f.fisher5318
    @j.f.fisher5318 3 роки тому +33

    That was fun, I subbed.
    But, about those vocals... (edit) TL;DR watch the Judgement & Punishment one-take. She screws up just a bit in the first growling section of the chorus and makes her growl squeak. That wouldn't happen if it was an audio effect.
    The "live session" was to record their new drummer. The vocals are right off the album version and are layered to make them more intense, but Tatiana can growl even lower than this. The one part that she can't do live is she needs an extra second to switch from growls to belting so she just growls that belted line live. The original album version had one layer growled, one belted. This version they just did the belting line because it is so impressive.
    While Tati's skills aren't exactly routine for female growlers, they aren't all that unusual for the best of the bunch either. The best male growlers can go even lower, since a larger instrument can make a lower tone. In the case of Alex Terrible, he even does bits of the song Demolisher in shows without a mic after hushing the crowd and there are plenty of bootlegs to confirm this (if you watch the official video, they amplify that part - it isn't that loud in bootlegs, but the tone is real.
    It is a very real technique, done with the false vocal cords instead of the true vocal cords. Since the false cords aka vestibular folds aren't gendered (they are just flaps of tissue that close the throat against exhalation when lifting a heavy weight or pushing out a hard turd) male and female growls can sound very similar - as an example of that, I recommend Rage Of Light's "Mechanicals" live where the male growler who does backing vocals sounds almost indistinguishable from the growls of the female lead singer. While similar sounds can be made with something I've heard is called "dehumanizer," growling vocalists like Otep Shamaya (see also "Ghost Flowers" off the Confrontation live DVD) also do voiceover work for movies and games to voice monstrous characters. It's a thing.
    Anyway, for more from Jinjer, check out Perennial live at Wacken to see them on stage. There is a tiny bit of post production, but it sounds quite similar to bootlegs of that show. Cheers!

    • @Metal_89
      @Metal_89 3 роки тому

      the vocals are not off the album version. when she hits those high notes towards the end, on the album version theres growling going on over top of it. theres none here. also if you listen close enough you can hear subtle differences between them as well.

    • @j.f.fisher5318
      @j.f.fisher5318 3 роки тому

      @@Metal_89 I own both MP3s so I put them both in Audacity and overlapped them. If the vocal tracks were different there would be small (or not so small) differences that would be very obvious when listening to it. There is effectively no difference. Also note that the video description discusses recording some vocal layers, but makes no mention of recording the main vocal tracks.

    • @keith6848
      @keith6848 3 роки тому

      Your reply was awesome, glad I saw it

  • @user-xe2hl7cj4c
    @user-xe2hl7cj4c 3 роки тому +2

    I found this song through you, and I've been listening to it relentlessly. Look at that! You've covered so many songs, you're surely now introducing great music into the lives of others. I'm grateful you randomly decided to make this channel 🤙

  • @afterlifetattoostudio7010
    @afterlifetattoostudio7010 3 роки тому +48

    " was expecting like a rock kind of a...." LMAO

  • @xxxsss0
    @xxxsss0 3 роки тому +55

    That's like 90 percent her. There's some echos and stuff here and there but the brutality in her voice is all her

    • @stangcobra592
      @stangcobra592 3 роки тому +1

      Echoes and stuff? What are you talking about? There's a backing vocal track in parts in post production to match the studio recording.

    • @p46_rs
      @p46_rs 3 роки тому +17

      @@stangcobra592 i think he means reverb and delay, which tatiana has said in an interview that she uses. all this does is make her growls sound more "full" and resonate better. obviously you can see in their live performances she is still more than capable of sounding great with less/without it.

    • @boogabuga7657
      @boogabuga7657 3 роки тому +2

      @@p46_rs There is definitely vocal dubs in this, I'm sure the main vocal track is live, but they dubbed over them during the screaming sections, listen closely you can hear two voices.

    • @p46_rs
      @p46_rs 3 роки тому

      @@boogabuga7657 yeah no doubt, during the chorus you can hear it. after all, it was recorded in a studio. it sounded like stang cobra was saying there was no "echos," which i was clarifying that OP probably meant delay and reverb. i was also saying that she still sounds great without it as you can see in their live concerts.

    • @horrorshow3000
      @horrorshow3000 3 роки тому

      98% her i would say...just to be a smartass.

  • @pelgervampireduck
    @pelgervampireduck 2 роки тому +14

    she does it for real, it's not a plugin, she does it live, she can go from the clean voice to the "GRRRRR!" voice in a second. I'm not a fan of the band but I can tell they are all very talented.

  • @Sir-Complains-a-Lot
    @Sir-Complains-a-Lot 3 роки тому +15

    Reverb and some sort of compressor is what i heard, but she is an absolute monster and there are other videos where she scares the crap out of you without any effects.

    • @MickeyKraut419
      @MickeyKraut419 2 роки тому +2

      Just a little minor polish on Tati's voice is post production. The cleans in the prechorus have a slight bit of reverb and doubling. In the chorus, just a little compression, with some doubling on the ends of some phrases. On the bridge, a little doubling and a few backtracks. Same with the final push, just a little compression a couple layers on the final line.

  • @posmanager44
    @posmanager44 3 роки тому +32

    Yup! Devin Townsend kimgdom next. Nightwish - ghost love score live.

  • @Noperiety
    @Noperiety 3 роки тому +56

    Alrighty. UA-cams pause key is "k", while "j" goes back 10 seconds and "l" goes forward 10 seconds. "m" is mute/unmute. comma and period can skip through frames.
    So for going back a bit you can always go back the same amount of time using the keyboard with very little effort.

    • @annagumenyuk5265
      @annagumenyuk5265 3 роки тому +6

      Also "arrow keys" backward & forward for 5sec skip

    • @NikkLiberos
      @NikkLiberos 3 роки тому +8

      I only use the spacebar and arrow keys. I must be something...

    • @malevolution7041
      @malevolution7041 3 роки тому +1

      it looks like he's using WMP and not youtube, but I might be mistaken

    • @glyph5044
      @glyph5044 3 роки тому +1

      Holy sh/t thank you Nico, I had no idea there was a frame key.

    • @slate613
      @slate613 3 роки тому

      THANK YOU! Been wondering how people do that! lol

  • @sanity9211
    @sanity9211 3 роки тому

    your reaction is so refreshing and interesting! thank you so much for doing this! subscribed :D

  • @KryticalError
    @KryticalError 3 роки тому +5

    "Hoooooooo SHIT!" We have ALL been there my man lmfao. What a great video. Looking forward to more content

  • @kodendarkgaming2209
    @kodendarkgaming2209 Рік тому +3

    This is by far my favorite reaction to this song... I love how you appreciate all of the band members contributions equally, and I especially enjoy the way you break down the musical aspect in detail!

  • @shadowboy813
    @shadowboy813 3 роки тому +8

    I get goosebumps at the end of this song too. Every time. And I've heard it hundreds of times.

  • @harlanberk8501
    @harlanberk8501 3 роки тому

    Loved how you approached this from a technical aspect as well as a fan of music 🙏🙏

  • @abemiller4021
    @abemiller4021 3 роки тому

    Always such awesome positivity and appreciation for the musicians’ talents! Keep it up Positive Decomposer!!

  • @cineddiction
    @cineddiction 3 роки тому +28

    Jinjer -"Judgement and punishment" one take vocal performance will answer your question whether or not it's her voice. Or any of their their Live performance as well. Great reaction👍looking forward to you diving deeper in jinjer rabbit hole🤘

  • @slate613
    @slate613 3 роки тому +35

    Tatiana and Eugene [bassist] said in an interview they don't think they have a genre because they draw from so many different ones.

    • @bosunbones.8815
      @bosunbones.8815 3 роки тому +3

      A wild critter!?!
      Is it thursday yet???
      🤗🤘

    • @PeaceHaver
      @PeaceHaver 3 роки тому

      This definitely mix between hip-hop and jazz.

    • @TheCrazyCanuck420
      @TheCrazyCanuck420 3 роки тому +4

      Interviewer: how would you describe your genre?
      Tatiana and Eugene: yes

    • @ricku2864
      @ricku2864 3 роки тому +1

      @@bosunbones.8815 Bidet!

    • @bosunbones.8815
      @bosunbones.8815 3 роки тому

      @@ricku2864 Beep Beep!

  • @bestofbambam4425
    @bestofbambam4425 3 роки тому

    Ive seen this one so many times now. I really LOVE your open mind, its so beautiful!

  • @twainjones
    @twainjones 3 роки тому

    waiting for it to drop..😁😁🤟

  • @GeekMomz
    @GeekMomz 3 роки тому +9

    I discovered so much great music after discovering Jinjer. I started watching reactions to it, liking the reactors & following them.
    Jinjer is probably all-time favorite band.

    • @Lyander25
      @Lyander25 3 роки тому +1

      Same here, finding analysis channels following great songs has introduced me to loads of great music that I now love. Started off with Nightwish going into Dimash's SOS which is what led to my learning about Jinjer a few years back and it's just been grand :))

  • @trajectoryunown
    @trajectoryunown 3 роки тому +25

    I'm squealing like a little girl right now and I ain't even seen this yet. Can't wait for you to see the transition.

  • @ieatpooeatmypoo
    @ieatpooeatmypoo 3 роки тому

    Wow! What a track! Wonderful job covering it too, great video, thanks.

  • @jayclark8422
    @jayclark8422 3 роки тому

    Really digging your perspective, notes, and and just overall vibe. Mahalo.

  • @tomasmackenzie5866
    @tomasmackenzie5866 3 роки тому +18

    Its 100% natural, and from what I've heard Tatiana has had no real vocal training. Shes just blessed I guess.

    • @Bramble451
      @Bramble451 3 роки тому +2

      No training, and she confessed in an interview that she drinks and smokes, too.

  • @edenschildren4238
    @edenschildren4238 3 роки тому +6

    That moment you realize that there is no effects on her voice....its just pure talent

  • @TheRyanRShow
    @TheRyanRShow 3 роки тому +2

    4 Years later and I still come peoples reactions haha

  • @KillTheJester
    @KillTheJester 3 роки тому

    Really like the way you are being honest and sincere. And fun to see you enjoying this masterpiece.

  • @MatthewBousumonline
    @MatthewBousumonline 3 роки тому +36

    Watching off genre or unfamiliar professionals talk about Tatiana is hilarious.

  • @MoosicDude
    @MoosicDude 3 роки тому +12

    Jinjer have some big old-style Opeth vibes going on here, everything is definitely their own though. It's an immense performance!

  • @aaronazagoth6373
    @aaronazagoth6373 3 роки тому

    Great reaction and dissection of the song. I subscribed!

  • @Drumax62
    @Drumax62 2 роки тому

    Goose bumps??! I, tears really :p thx for the review that made my day \m/

  • @brunotvrs
    @brunotvrs 3 роки тому +8

    We need videos of people watching Pisces reactions now. I feel like we all giggle and smile in anticipation at the same timestamps lol

  • @williammckee2859
    @williammckee2859 3 роки тому +42

    I'd like to see a reaction of you finding out that the "hook" is her voice and not some synthetic machined up auto tune voice over.

    • @adamsmith2758
      @adamsmith2758 3 роки тому +2

      That’s not what he is talking about when he says “hook”... a “hook” is the catch of the song, oftentimes the chorus.. read a book before you make a shit comment

    • @figofagonagoitis
      @figofagonagoitis 3 роки тому

      The hook thing was explained by other coment. In case of her voice it’s obwious that she uses effects and she uses them a lot. That doesn’t change the fact that she can do growl. In this supposed live performance there are multiple lines of vocal with different effects.

    • @williammckee2859
      @williammckee2859 3 роки тому +2

      @Adam Smith I love keyboard warriors. But this topic caught my attention the other day because I did not post this comment and had to change my passwords. Ironically, I am a Jinjer fan and have seen them live and can say that she does use some minimal voice processing but her voice is pure and she sounds very "similar" to their studio recordings unlike the majority of her female counterparts in metal. And Adam, next time you insult someone online like a big man take a look in the mirror and remind yourself who you are and who you may be talking too on the other side.

    • @pentalarclikesit822
      @pentalarclikesit822 3 роки тому +2

      There are definitely some effects on the vocals, (significant reverb and some compression at the least) but that switch is not easy to do one way or the other. (Not at that level, but I'm a vocalist and can do similar switches) I also play bass and some guitar, so to me I really think of it like kicking on a pedal. But I think the main reason why reason why (besides sexism and biological ignorance, let's be honest people who lack any knowledge of singing or anatomy probably don't expect a woman to use that type of growl/fry) I think everyone thinks those vocals are a lot more heavily treated than they are is because she has an unusually *clear* delivery in that style compared to many others.

  • @newdaze11
    @newdaze11 3 роки тому

    Watched several of your videos now and you are gettign great at knowing when the intensity of Prog Rock and metal are about to bust out. good stuff!!

  • @francislavoie4185
    @francislavoie4185 3 роки тому

    First time hearing this band thanks to your channel (you're channel appeared in youtube suggestions with sooo many bands from my own music library (Opeth, Contortionist, Karnivool, Ne Obliviscaris, etc.) and I got really intrigued. Loooooove your videos, I have 3 months worht to catch up). I didn't know what to expect from this band and then at 4:05, biggest goosebump/chicken skin/shivers in the world! Wow!!!!!! That is so cool! I'm hooked!!! Thank you so much!!

  • @0xdecaf
    @0xdecaf 3 роки тому +13

    Yeah, her voice is awesome. If you want to hear more like this, you should check out Spiritbox - Rule of Nines

  • @schoolofmediocrity2801
    @schoolofmediocrity2801 3 роки тому +34

    Geebz: "I love when bass players really work with the instrument"
    Me: "May I introduce you to Coheed and Cambria?"

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 3 роки тому

      Can you suggest some tracks?

    • @schoolofmediocrity2801
      @schoolofmediocrity2801 3 роки тому +2

      @@Lurch685 For some truly great examples of the bassist's abilities I would say the Willing Well I, II, III or IV... all are fantastic.
      However, if you want something more subtle but equally good, I would recommend Here to Mars. It is such a fun song to play, and if I was going to recommend one song for Geebz to react to it would be that one.

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 3 роки тому

      @@schoolofmediocrity2801 thanks! I’ll check em out.

    • @TravisLackey
      @TravisLackey 3 роки тому

      I was thinking Les Claypool. Guy is a complete legend.

  • @marloc2019
    @marloc2019 3 роки тому

    I love you man!
    You are not a toddler, not a young boy either but you have the surprise, the excitement and the sheer delight of a summer day spent in a toy store.
    And its heartwarming.
    Keep on.
    Great content

  • @logankerlee
    @logankerlee 3 роки тому

    Holy shit, dude. I love this band's music. Very glad that you enjoyed as well! :)
    I'm looking forward to all of your future ventures into Jinjer!

  • @JoeMcGuire
    @JoeMcGuire 3 роки тому +8

    BEST JINJER REACTION VIDEO YET~! Though I wish I had taped the reaction my 8yo girl had to it (she ran out of the room)
    Next nomination - Chlorine & Wine by Baroness.

  • @ericpegram9737
    @ericpegram9737 3 роки тому +6

    "Virgin innocence" is actually the state of a vocal coach before hearing this song

  • @Templarofsteel88
    @Templarofsteel88 3 роки тому

    it always makes my day when I find a new reaction video for Pisces.

  • @mikedogggg1
    @mikedogggg1 3 роки тому

    Not going to lie. I love coming home from work and sitting here watch you react to songs and bands i love

  • @Chad-tf5vc
    @Chad-tf5vc 3 роки тому +4

    jinjers entire catalogue is nothing short of spectacular, they only get better with age.

  • @y0maxtko
    @y0maxtko 3 роки тому +12

    Devin Townsend “Kingdom” !!

  • @StefanMedici
    @StefanMedici 3 роки тому

    Just discovered this band thanks to your channel. Thanks brother. They're all amazing but that bassist is doing some incredible work.

  • @MattTelepenko
    @MattTelepenko 3 роки тому

    It was nice to see someone review this that is an all around musician instead of just a vocal expert. I loved all your comments about the band!

  • @dylanhamilton7190
    @dylanhamilton7190 3 роки тому +4

    New fan of your channel here for the obligatory Nightwish request of Ghost Love Score! As a composer I think you’ll really appreciate it.

    • @pro-v7500
      @pro-v7500 3 роки тому +1

      Live at Wacken 2013, not the original singer. Let’s be honest, if we want him to truly enjoy Nightwish as a first listen then it needs to be the current vocalist, not the one that hasn’t been in the band for 16 years now.

  • @hailey302
    @hailey302 3 роки тому +16

    I was 4 feet away from Tatiana during a concert last year, that’s definitely her voice lol. It was the best concert I’ve ever been to.

  • @Oshidorinohina
    @Oshidorinohina 2 роки тому

    thanks for explaining voicings! never heard of that term before.

  • @susilou68
    @susilou68 3 роки тому

    These reactions never get old! Brilliant - Tatiana is a beast!

  • @log9262
    @log9262 3 роки тому +15

    If you like really layered songs, the Forty Six & 2 by TOOL is a really good bet. I’d also have to recommend some Alice In Chains (my personal favorite being Would?). Thank you for the great videos, keep up the great work! 👍

  • @thrakkanuur
    @thrakkanuur 3 роки тому +3

    Every time I watch a reaction of this by someone who knows music well... it's always about the "Ghost notes" and how sick the drummer is. Hehe. A bad ass drummer wields some crazy power man.

  • @wendellstamps
    @wendellstamps 3 роки тому

    I enjoyed your reaction, and yeah, everyone’s jaw drops on this one haha I enjoyed your analysis too!

  • @jacobhollidge59
    @jacobhollidge59 3 роки тому +1

    I have heard this song countless times and I still get goosebumps at the same time you did.

  • @abelstrd
    @abelstrd 3 роки тому +6

    When I first heard and watched this I imagined myself in a quiet cozy coffee shop. Then all of a suddenly I found myself in a sweaty dusty mosh pit flailing my arms and legs with a bloody nose..... and back to the coffee shop and back to the pit!!!!

  • @sunnyday6133
    @sunnyday6133 3 роки тому +3

    Check out Rule of Nines by Spiritbox! Also amazing talent there!

  • @ericsteffen6258
    @ericsteffen6258 2 роки тому

    FINALLY someone addresses the drumming!!! Thank you!

  • @PoorRoleModel
    @PoorRoleModel 3 роки тому

    Dude, you just helped me track down a song I'd never known existed, though I was looking for, in regard to a compilation of song references for the cyberpunk2077 game! I left you a little love in the video description for this video, because for some reason... when you're trying to find a single word song title, of something as generalized as "Pisces," with no additional context... it's... tricky.
    Keep up the awesome videos!

  • @kyotoguitar6463
    @kyotoguitar6463 3 роки тому +3

    "Teacher, Teacher!" Has sick clean/fry vocal. It's really amazing how she controls her voice

  • @SupaBeluga
    @SupaBeluga 3 роки тому +11

    It's a natural type of "effect," really. Just the way that your voice starts to kind of gravel out if you try to hit a note that's too low, for example, or the vocal fry that many have when speaking taken to an extreme effect. Vibrate the so-called "false" vocal folds instead of your full voiced folds you would use to sustain a normal pitched note, and push air through so you can get sound and form words (I think this is a fry scream, though there are several different techniques, as evidenced by the diversity of sounds you can hear vocalists make in the more "extreme" subgenres of metal, ranging from squealy sounds to really rough growls). She definitely uses some delay and stuff, too, but the "harsh" sounds are produced with physical technique and control (from tons of practice, especially to do safely, since doing it wrong can permanently damage your vocal folds). Switching between the two sounds is quite difficult, and she does an incredible job, which belies a lot of effort and discipline! Great reaction, loved how much you keyed into the drums instantly.

    • @KeyOfGeebz
      @KeyOfGeebz  3 роки тому +3

      Wow, that was a wonderful explanation! Thank you.

    • @MmeHyraelle
      @MmeHyraelle 3 роки тому

      I second. The types of technique is guttural singing. Some inuk (native Canadian ) people do this, as well asians regions such as mongolia. In non-metal ways.

    • @jaketheadventurer2772
      @jaketheadventurer2772 3 роки тому +1

      I love your username and profile picture!

    • @SupaBeluga
      @SupaBeluga 3 роки тому

      @@jaketheadventurer2772 Thanks! It's become my go to on a lot of social platforms haha

  • @Allen7
    @Allen7 3 роки тому +1

    man i so much enjoy listening u explaning things and telling how u felt it...thank you so much! it is so nice to hear someone actually know what he is talking about and know stuff about music and music production...i hope u will do a lot more stuff...please do opeth - ghost of perdition!

  • @Harryroberts1975
    @Harryroberts1975 3 роки тому

    Loved your reaction. Great band too!