Old Composer REACTS to JINJER Judgement & Punishment - Tatiana Shmayluk - Reaction & First Listen
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JINJER Judgement & Punishment - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Reaction & First Listen
JINJER Judgement & Punishment Reaction
This ride goes as long as you stay true to yourself. YT viewers are starving for positivity and honesty.
Thank you for that :)
amen to that
Whoa. Small internet. Hello Steam friend.
@@KeyOfGeebz just watching this video now, missed a small amount of them so going through your channel! Got into Jinjer a few days ago and they are very fun and unique.
That is so true
It’s very fitting that Tati has a dragon tattoo on her throat, since she breathes fire!
She's amazing, have never heard her before except for this channel... def deep diving now
@@derricktipps9867 Glad you found Jinjer here, I've been a fan for 4 years now and have seen them twice, so amazing live. Enjoy!
Its a tattoo of Quetzalcoatl
@@neilpatrickhairless yes, it is. 🙃
@Derrick Tipps oh man, I envy to you for such an opportunity for joy and wonder of first listenings whole Jinjer playlist. I'm sure that if you liked this one then you gonna just devour all of them today ;)
Tatiana just embodies everything that metal's all about - she totally owns it. Superb band in every single way.....
Put perfectly. Well said
Somehow exactly the reason i don't listen to them
@@tydendurler9574 who do you like to listen to?
Blasphemy I know but Tati feels too... Trashy, to me? The lyrics, the way she carries herself, some of the dumb shit she's worn to concerts, I dunno. Maybe the fact she's so aggressively hyped by the general community just sours me innately- I have the same thing with Nightwish where I just want to hate that band because everyone's so fucking pushy about how they're literally god incarnate or whatever. Same shit here. Apparently now she's metal personified lol
@Jimmy Hollywood Like I said, her fanbase is nice and rabid
The reggae vibes in this song are so damn CRISP! Forever a favorite. Tatiana is an actual goddess, band is incredible
First time hearing Jinjer, first time hearing Tatiana. Mind = blown.
I love watching people realize why we love metal. The time changes and everything just incredible. Really keeps you guessing and provides a special kind of energy
This is the best female screamer I've ever heard by far.
Eugene is an absolute monster on the bass. Just a genius. He was the first thing that caught my eye/ear in the band. Hes got so many cool parts in thier songs.
Jinjer hasn't got a bad song or album yet. They're so good. Please do more. I enjoy your look at bands from your perspective.
Are you ready for this? That chorus is straight 4/4. It's just that they play with the accents so much, and the pauses. What I love about it is that the vocals tie it together rhythmically. If you hear the song without the vocals, you find yourself going "Man how would I sing over that?! How the hell did she do that?" It's often the case with their music. The guys write all the music before it gets to Tati for vocals and lyrics. I'm often dumbfounded by how she can find a vocal part that makes any sense over those crazy riffs and time changes. And yet, it's often her voice that is the unifying factor, the catalyst that brings it all together.
These guys, like Rush, can make a 13/8 time signature sound natural. They can make you headbang to odd meters. That's a rare talent. They can also make it sound disjointed and disorienting when they want to. Just tools in the toolbox for them. They're like master painters or sculptors who use all the colors, techniques, and tools in the kit. It's beautiful!
I would like to thank you from the bottom of my tiny blackened heart for learning the difference between a growl and a scream.
Dirty centrist.
The band Death was a big influence on a lot of growling. Chuck Schuldiner is the guy
We need a reaction to Death 100%.
YES check out Death!
Schuldiner*
@@6ic6ic6ic agreed
Yeah something off of The Sound of Perseverance like Spirit Crusher or Flesh and the Power it Holds would be fantastic. I love every Death album, but that album was by far the most progressive so I think he'd appreciate it the most.
Eugene is such a badass bass player. probably my favorite active bass player in metal right now.
This might be sacrilege but I feel like hes up on the level of guys like john myung.
I had a brief message chat with him because some of his style was familiar to me. And he said that he is influenced Jaco Pastorius.
He never did respond as to whether he can play Reza. Would be awesome if he can. Almost a Flight of the Bumblebee in the Jazz world I guess. Check out Reza/Giant Steps/Reza from his live Invitation album. Mind blowing. :)
Love her, so much Talent, nobody in Metal can touch her IMO.
Omg, mr nobody is so lucky.
Tatiana is the hook to get them in and the band keep them there
Hands down best jinjer song
You should watch some interviews with the bassist Eugene. Such a passionate and focused guy and obviously a killer bassist.
You sir just a beautiful human being. God bless you sir..
Roman's guitar tone here is a Peavey 6505 set with low distortion with gobs of boost before the amp from his Helix. It's impossible to tell what he has set in the Helix, but it's some kind of tube screamer overdrive and maybe a clean boost that carry those mids through and tighten the low end. You slam the front of the amp with mids and cut some of them out after the pre-amp with an EQ to get that djenty tone. Live, he mixes in impulse responses, not sure if he uses them in the studio.
Could you be more specific?
@@dlach3139 Here, Roman talks about his setup ua-cam.com/video/eWhvEQVnC3k/v-deo.html.
I can get a similar-ish sound on my rig doing something kinda like he does without the impulse responses. I use a clean boost, an overdrive set as clean boost, and an overdrive with slight distortion going into my mildly overdriven Randall RT100. The overdrives and boost give an insane amount of mids, but that carries that low A tuning nicely through the pre-amp and tightens the low end removing any flub. The key is to shape the sound with a 7 or 8 band EQ in the loop to remove a lot of the added mids and get just the right amount of low end. The EQ does most of the sound shaping. Here's this in action ua-cam.com/video/4JGObtP-JQ0/v-deo.html
@@ZachComa thanks!
As you can see in the video you linked, Roman now uses an EVH 5150 III, not a 6505.
@@module79l28 5150 III on tour in North America (and South maybe), 6505 in Europe. Right after the U.S. tour, he sold the 5150 III, I remember the listing.
The way her accent comes through is just absolutely beautiful
Someone already mentioned a lot of what is going on with his guitar tone, what I can tell you from my experience, the bass is cranked down, which is common with an extended range guitar, They tune frequently to A and Ab, on a 7 string. When you're tuned that low, you usually dial back the bass on the tone stack, it's going to be very bassy regardless. If you don't wind it back it goes straight to being mud. There's definitely a screamer or similar pedal to tone shape, which also tends to roll off a bit more of the low end. and I'd go as far to say even though the fundamental on the guitar is below 60 hz, that they have a highpass around 100hz, so what you're hearing is actually the harmonic series of the low notes rather than the low note themselves (because the first harmonic is an octave higher than the fundamental) this is a very common way to get a very low guitar signal sounding clearer and punchier.
but the tone stack if we use a 4 band tone stack, bass is dialed back, low mids slightly rolled off, hi mids are very present, and treble is slightly boosted. The high mids are the body of the ticky sound you get in Djent. The low mids can be muddy and do weird things so you kind of pull them out a bit.
Source: I play 7 string guitars through a peavey 6505 lol He has a helix going into his, I'm slamming mine with an old tube screamer, and then a clean boost after to absolutely slam the preamp section of the amp. Admittedly his tone is cleaner than mine. However speaking from experience that's the route that's going on there.
Sidenote, 7 strings don't get enough love. They are becoming popular in metal, but damn if that guitar hasn't proven to be amazing for jazzy and bluesy stuff, and it's an absolute monster for playing ambient styles.
Also I know this has gotten to be long comment, But I wanted to say respect for giving their bassist some love, he's incredible. Everyone always overlooks the bassists. Coming from a rhythm guitarist, they are 2/3 of my guitar tone. A great bassist will make or break a bands sound. If the bassist is doing his job well, everything in the track sounds bigger, better and richer. A lot of time though that means they get overlooked. So Thank you for taking a moment and showing the bass some love there.
"respect to all the growlers out there" i died and spat drink out
Me too, don't think he knows what that means in the UK
@@ElectricHobbit-Official And Australia.
enlighten us
@@BachiloDmitry Волосатая фанни старушки (An Old Lady's Hairy Fanny)
@@BachiloDmitry This will probably get me in trouble, but in the UK, "growler," is used in Cockney rhyming slang, sometimes, instead of, "grunt," which rhymes with 'c**t'. It is often used, sometimes in a derogatory way, to describe a variety of things, from someone's wife, a woman, calling a woman ugly, a woman's genitals, calling a woman's genitals ugly, or (growling) having sex with a woman, especially performing oral sex on a woman. In Australia, it's mostly used in this last meaning, i.e., to perform oral sex on a woman, like, "eating carpet," or, "rug munching."
Geebz! You're the cool artsy grandad we all need. Lol. Loving your channel since the first reactions, kudos on 100k!
Grandpa... stung me and it was in no way meant for me. Lol. I get it though.
Definitely reggae. She's a big fan of it.
Roman said he played the lick on accident while just messing around on the neck, they decided to use it because Tati always asks for reggae.
She used to be in a ska band I believe.
@@Marino4L Oh man, I want to hear that so bad.
@@Marino4L apparently her favorite album of all time is Ixnay on the Hombre by the Offspring... 😣
To answer your question at the end of the video, I think the first "growling" in music can probably be coined to old blues players. If you think about it, the Beatles even had some pretty raspy vocals in their songs. (Twist and Shout for example) obviously not like modern day growls but like you said, it all evolves. The main band coined with being the first to growl is just called "Death" from the 80s/90s. I believe that's why the term is called "death growl" sometimes but I'm not sure on that.
A lot of times modern growls are attributed to the blues and 80s garage metal, and early fry screams can be found in pink Floyd, the who, and zepplin
@@peacereaper5987 And, if you want to go further back, the Vikings were the first to implement the use of "grunts" or "growls" into their songs.
@@peterwyatt5702 Were they though? I suppose that's more a worldwide phenomenon.
@@jonkwape3097 exactly. It could well go back 10s of thousands of years.
@@peterwyatt5702 yeah sure, no humans growled or grunted before the vikings xD
XdCCCsCd fml 😂😂😂
It's Jinjer time. And yes I am here.
Sup!
Just wanted to say that I think it's pretty impolite that most comments under reaction videos are just song suggestions. The least of them appreciate the youtuber himself.
And I wanted to let you know that you're freakin' awesome, dude.
According to you it's impolite. But most people dislike hearing praises about one's own person, and would rather prefer a sense of connection and kinship with peers. Not saying Geebz is like that, but most people are. We all love music, and we want to share what we love with each other, and that's wonderful. Suggesting a song that you love can also be very personal because in a way we're sharing a piece of ourselves. There is nothing impolite about it, even though I agree, some may come across as merely demanding but I doubt that's the real intent. This is UA-cam after all, it's what you make of it.
Geebz requested the comments be suggestions with links to videos, and only people who know what they're talking about with regards to music production can really comment on his take, so most just go for a song suggestion.
@@gandalf8216 impolite, yeah. I'm not a native speaker.
Also I think that you can't build any connection to the youtuber when you're just suggesting a song and nothing else. There's no communication between the youtuber and the viewer
@@user-bf6gz8ej4o I mean, I'd consider it an act of intimacy (even if it is one-sided), to go out of your way to post a song suggestion, knowing that the person will enjoy it in some kind of way.
Gabriel Henrique - I Want To Know What Love Is.
Hugs from Brazil!
I Love listening to Jinger! Been listening to them since I first heard them in 2014/15. Anyway, you asked about the growling. Before I ever heard Jinjer play there was Killswitch Engage with Howard Jones! He sings the same way with cleans and growls. Try listening to “Desperate Times “ from Killswitch Engage. 🤘😎
I followed you with Jinjer - Piscis. So I'm always looking forward to watch you react to Jinjer. Tatiana is a beast!
“Boris the spider” by The Who is usually credited as the first growled vocals.
I feel like you’re getting closer and closer to more Periphery and Haken and I can’t wait. Love your breakdowns, bud! 👏🏼👏🏼
Love the bass. I need to check out more from this group, first time hearing them. Her vocals are amazing too.
Jinjer home back is their new one. Interesting timings in that one
You know Geebz was really into the composition when he didn't even notice the cat. LOL
A channel called 'The Punk Rock MBA' did a video called 'The evolution of screaming: from The Beatles to Slayer!' that covers a lot of the history of how growling came to be.
I do appreciate how hard it was to focus on your main objective - decomposing - while watching this video.
Their song, Who is Going to Be the One (Live), is an amazing performance. You particularly get to see how talented the bass player is in that video. It was written back when they had two guitar players. They rearranged it with Romain playing a lead/rhythm combo sort of part, and Eugene (bassist) playing a bit of the lead guitar part as well -- it's small, but impressive.
3:41 Yeeeeah! I could barely wait to see your face when they hit you with that reggae LOL
Lol legend. Respect to all the growlers 🤣
I don't listen to lyrics until quite a few listens. The music draws me more
@Key of Geebz the first recorded musical growl was John Entwistle on "Boris The Spider" back in 1966. Your reactions are super insightful and I love hearing the waves crashing in the background. I think I was meant to be a beach baby but I am stuck in Indiana.....oh well, have a great day and a fantastic week!!
Aloha Michelle - Thanks for the info! Awwwright :)
That's exactly what I was thinking too, my friend showed me the song years back saying he thought that where probably the earliest origin.
The first growler in music was John Entwistle with The Who in 1966
lol'd watching your facial expressions when the first reggae part started xD
If you're interested in an interesting Reggae/Metal band, check out the band Skindred. I'd recommend the tracks "Nobody", "Pressure", "Ratrace", or "Kill the Power"
I second this. Skindred are amazing, and one of the best bands I've seen live.
Jinger are on their very own level of metal, similar to how Meshuggah are, as well as TooL in their respective 'category' or artistic styles. There is simply no competition
Jinjer is the fucking genre!!. 😅 😎 🤘 🤘
The pattern you were wondering about is a quintuplet pattern. Yay for prime numbers!
Jinjer..Raggae into metal..just awesome..just like thier song pisces..
I have been waiting for this. Man waiting for a new video from you is the bright spot of my day
This is one of my favorite songs for bass 🖤
I've never hit LIKE so quick in my life!!
Jinjer - home back
Man dude, thanks for doing this! Mahalo my friend!
this man chooses so many songs from my playlists
Edit: Regarding the history of growling, there is mention of “growling” and ugly vocalizations in historical accounts of Scandinavian music when other cultures would deal with the Norsemen who went viking (fun fact, viking is a verb as it was a side activity for income supplement, NOT a dedicated lifestyle or class of people).
There are also the vocalizations in Haka from the Maori people of New Zealand.
As for its use in popular music, The Who’s “Boris the Spider” is often seen as the first ever use of a death growl, back in 1966!
Congrats on 100k, Geebz! Was wondering when you’d get to this one :)
“Home Back” next in the Jinjer list?
Going to start my new request quest and recommend you react to Mute the Saint’s “The Fall of Sirius”, a mix of prog metal and Indian classical: ua-cam.com/video/XMNQL-vro8c/v-deo.html
Check out Bad Water for a nearly completely clean vocal performance. Additionally, Who Will Be The One is nearly all growl. So much good Jinjer. They have a new great video out for Home Back as well.
Still waiting for you to do Hexagram!
As you can tell, I love Deftones.
13:08 "It's not because I physically see her" I don't think you can right now with all that sunlight in your face
Tati is one of the greats. Glad she and Jinjer exist.
Cradle of Filth - Nymphetamine (Overdose), Her Ghost In The Fog, or Wester Vespertine. Great musicians and composers.
Her ghost in the fog is amazing!
Damn, girl has some pipes!
Awesome! How to not love this woman, she has it all, the cleans, the growls, the fry screams and she looks stunning! On top of that she loves cats :D
If you are looking for other artists with incredible vocal range check out: Dir En Grey - Vinushka.
Jinjer and Spiritbox are my favourite bands but I fo love DeG.. and Kyo and the guys are amazing musicians as well
This band is so good. Live they are a treat for the senses. Vlad and Eugene’s playing sets the stage for Tatiana and Roman to shine and the whole band molds and forms their own unique sound, with so many influences and styles. They are the future.
Modern metal guitar tones are tuned very low, B, A, G are commonly used for music,Messhugah are tuned in F, the lowest there is, so you need a lot of tweeking to get a good sound out of guitar tuned this low, but the results are great. Love your reactions, keep it up.
We're still here! Also Tatiana is as infectious to watch as she is to listen to, no one can rightly blame you for getting distracted by the video. :)
Returning Empty Handed by Underoath is a must !!!!!!
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Aits WWW
The Stranglers with the söng " Ugly" back in 1977, probably first growl vokal))
Aloha! Most guitar tones today have a sort of boosted midrange with a slight scoop on the 400hz or 300hz (depending on the artist) to get that low end twang. Mahalo!!
Doesn't matter your knowledge on music. Doesn't matter how you break shit down. People recognize down to earth good people. Great channel!!
I like the way you talk about your evolution through music, not letting all of your previous experiences flavor your opinions.
There's always something wonderfully new to discover.
Jinjer - Home Back is also an amazing song!! After seeing them live i can say they are truly amazing musicians and people in general!
Powerful song about their hometown in eastern Ukraine getting caught in the war there. And it speaks eloquently for the millions of civilians caught in every war around the world.
you the best
Wow, congratulations on 100k!!!
You've got your subscribers because you're a good guy.
The mongolian have been doing growling in traditional tribal music for centuries. They usually growl into specific harmonics and do group growls to create a droning sound that's amazing. The mongolian band The wu uses some of that but it's very diluted in comparision.
Roman's guitar tone is actually pretty simple surprisingly enough. He uses an EVH 5150 III amplifier, everything's set slightly above middle (set on 6's if I remember correctly from the last couple shows I saw them on). He has a Line 6 Helix to help switch and add a few effects for his cleans, but all of the distortion and such is pretty straightforward. Bands like Gojira and Trivium use a similar tone for their main overdriven tone (Jinjer just tunes down to drop A).
That is indeed a great way to wake up on a Monday morning! Great reaction and decomposition. As always, we can never have enough Jinjer. 👍
Sir, you have a beautiful mind... if I had a fraction of your musical knowledge I would be a giant amongst men... keep up the great work.. 👍🏽💜
Love the reactions man
I love seeing reactors climbing walls trying to figure out the tempos and shifts in Jinjer´s compositions. Great reaction man, loved it! This band deserves much more, try something live like "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019, they are monsters on stage. Peace.
Puscifer potions on the recycle
ELDER. - great prog band. A must. I am still here looking for the one.
These videos are fantastic. Keep up the great work!
so many style of music in that one its quite impressive. can i suggest you ? as a composer go with Black Wizard - 01 Long Way Home you earned a fallower i love the way that you know how music is composed ! respect !
Many credit Lacey Sturm with starting the growling for women in Rock 2006. Check Flyleaf EP, I'm So Sick. Its like singing a duet with one singer. Arch Enemy started in 1996, but the woman lead singer used a monotone growl unrelated to the music.
Hey huge congrats on the 100k subs!!! You deserve it. We're here for the long haul. Your videos are pure substance, insight, and love for music. We love to see it! Awwright!
Glad yer gettin the Jinjer experience Mang! You should check out some Bad Brains, Ween (A Tear for Eddie or Transdermal Celebration). Also Maggot Brain from Funkadelic. Maybe some Zappa like Zoot Allures
Been waiting for you to do this One!
Hey you hit 100k subs! Congrats my Decomposer
I found Jinjer on your channel with that first react... and have been on a solid Tatiana fan crush ever since. She is so unique...
this is better than the studio recording
so glad you did this one, a great one take performance. Really enjoying this channel man, hope you keep going with it.
A lot of other people have mentioned this but the band Death was first in growling. Their song “1000 Eyes” was my older brothers way of introducing me to metal and I have not looked back.
Love your channel and your breakdowns in the songs! 🤘🏻
Before she lost her IG account, Tatiana would post videos of herself singing karaoke. She can vocally match any pop star you’d want to put up against her.
SO enjoying your enjoyment from this!
Excelente!
Please listen to Jinjers song, Vortex.
More fusion metal here:
Twelve Foot Ninja - ONE HAND KILLING
Love, love it 🤘🤘 She's such a big inspiration to me, so talented. And, let's not forget the band! Amazing, all around. Powerful music.