Very informative vid sir ! I carry g 19 and g26 but have a desire to carry 1911 ! Your a smart guy ! Thanks again. You know what your speaking about 😀😀😀😀
Excellent presentation! I carry a full-size 1911 most days. I carry a 1911 EVERY day when going out into Metro Atlanta. Warm weather social engagements require a 380 striker-fire 380 in pocket carry, otherwise, it's 1911 time. I am in full agreement with everything in this video with one major exception: holsters. First: I don't want to have to find a release tab in order to draw my pistol; I don't want to depend on a release tab to function properly. I know it's a simple toggle release, but it is a moving part and moving parts can and do fail. There are more than enough moving parts in a 1911 to keep me on my toes, without adding another one on my holster. I know it prevents someone from coming from behind and snatching the gun, but cross-draw carry with a strong forward cant pretty much prevents that. Third: I want only top grade heavy leather in contact with my most important possession. Kydex is not friendly to a pistol's finish.It's also hard and unforgiving when pressed against one's body all day. Fourth: I only own holsters for my 1911 that can give me the proper cant. In my case, the cant must tilt the butt of the pistol forward when carried cross-draw. Most right-handed holsters offered today are either offered with NO cant adjustment or cant adjustment only from upright to butt-forward when carried on strong-hand hip, not cross-draw. You can find holsters like mine in leather, but it will take some looking. I could save you some time right now, but I don't want this comment to come off like a sales pitch for a specific company. Why cross-draw? How much time do you spend in a vehicle? What percentage of shootings occur on our highways and byways today? Have you noticed the increase? Have you tried to draw your pistol from hip-carry while behind the wheel? It ain't easy, what with seat belts and consoles in your way. Cross-draw is a better way so long as the cant is butt-forward. Try it, see for yourself. What about concealed carry for a 1911? Hip carry on your strong side is going show a strong tendency to butt-print poking out from your waist. In addition, it is not possible to place your hand on your gun without telegraphing alarm when carrying on your strong-side hip. Both of these problems are mitigated by cross-draw. I've spent some tense moments leaning forward on a bar with my hand concealed by the bar under my jacket holding the butt of my 1911- and no one was the wiser (I am a retired Fed). There is a disadvantage to cross-draw carry: for one, if you find yourself flat on your back under one or more assailants, drawing your gun will be more problematic-I know from experience. I can't think of more, but there may be. Take my words as they are intended: as a possible help from an old man, and yes, cocked and locked is the only way for 1911 carry-just be sure and disengage the safety. How can you be sure to do that? Training, practice, practice. Make it muscle memory. Don't be found dead on the street with an unfired gun in your hand, safety on. Yes, it has happened.
Have carried a 1911 for nearly 50 years. My favorite firearm to carry fall and winter...and I have many others including Glock, Hellcat, Model 59, etc. Still the favorite, Another nice video, thank you sir.
I carry a 1911 everyday and i carry it cocked n locked but i also train with my 1911 to feel confident carrying it that way and unfortunately with how things have been lately in my home state i have to be ready at all times and i truly appreciate the great video and listening to what you have to say
for me seeing the cocked hammer is a mental thing ill have to get over some day, even with the thumb safety and grip safety. a striker fired gun with a cocked striker and no safety seems worse in my mind. somehow a striker fired gun with a thumb safety is less of a mental block for me, and the easiest to comprehend as "safe" is a da/sa with a decocker and thumb safety. ive never owned a striker fired pistol but ive recently been looking to try out some that come with a thumb safety and see how that goes
Striker fired guns have safeties, they are just internal/automatic safeties. Usually a striker block safety and a drop safety (and Glock clones have initial trigger safeties). The only way to make them go off is by pulling the trigger. Classic 1911's are not completely drop safe and can go off if dropped on its muzzle even with the manual safety engaged, the grip safety not depressed, and without pulling the trigger/dropping the hammer. I don't hate 1911's (I'm actually practicing dry fire with my 1911 while watching this video) and totally agree that the best way to carry one is cocked and locked
Wasnt so much talking about internal or even external safeties in this video as I was talking about a mechanism you have to manually disengage to get the gun to go pow...and as a Stryker fired fan, the only safety that takes the operators input on many guns, without an obvious thumb safety, is the trigger blade..grab the gun and with proper grip , safety is disengaged automatically. No thought process needed really. As far as a 1911 being dropped on its muzzle causing it to fire, I guess anything is possible but there are also TONS of studies and hundreds of hours of testing to prove otherwise. In fact one of those reports was a suituation where an officer got into a struggle with a bad guy on a parking deck, badguy loses 1911 over railing, gun falls 4 stories and lands smack dab on the HAMMER!!! Hammer broke but gun still didn’t discharge..so, the video is about which way to carry the 1911 is safest..I only used Stryker fired guns as a prop to make a point...as far as dropping ANY gun on its muzzle, inertia can make the firing pin go forward to the primer I guess, but being that the slide is actually locked in place on a 1911, one would think that it would then become a pipe-bomb instead of a handgun since the slide could NOT cycle relieving the pressure BUT either way, I wasn’t talking about “drop safeties” only safeties that have to be manipulated to bring the weapon into battery ..Hope you got the point of the video though..
I liked the video and that’s a wonderful piece you have there do you do reloading? Would like to hear tips and tricks if you have experience in that field and any older weapons I adorn
Graham, I've got to correct you on one point: Earlier SERIES 70 1911's can indeed go off if dropped. Later SERIES 80's have a 3rd internal safety that prevents it from going off if dropped. HOWEVER, when pulling the trigger on an 80, you are moving 4 extra internal parts that are giving you that extra layer of protection, and debateably, this is why Competition shooters use the 70, because the trigger is smoother & has less "creep" upon take-up, it's not operating those 4 extra parts of an 80. But the 1911 trigger is superior on either series, IMHO, than a striker fired pistol. Also, IMHO, the differences in creep & smoothness are MORE noticeable as the quality of the guns increase, i.e. comparable quality & priced lower & mid (read: less refined) 70's & 80's will be, as a general rule, usually less noticeable, or not at all unless they are more closely scrutinized, than the more refined (Match, etc.) Models of both SERIES are. That's MY experience, and folks may or may not agree, but I'd love to hear other thoughts on it. Common sense, to me anyway, the more money you pay for more refinement, you should EXPECT to notice a difference. Otherwise, why spend the money if you DIDN'T notice a difference (which ultimately results in more accuracy). Holla, & Peace out. -David Innis
you can carry pointing at your wiener if you have your weapon in a trigger guard Holster that covers and protects the trigger at all times until it is disengaged from the pistol. I have been using them for years and I even have one for my Springfield 9mm 1911 and I never fear an accidental discharge. check it out on youtube the videos on these Holsters are very good.
There is NO video or NOONE , regardless of what holster design that will ever convince me to point a loaded firearm at my junk or my femoral artery. Period… ive seen recent videos going off just by shaking them, striker fired handguns at that. Firearms are man made mechanical devices that can and DO fail. Ive personally seen a handgun safety fail while the gun was in the glovebox of a truck so….. not gonna happen here. Not gonna promote it and i WILL continue to try and discourage the reckless practice and make fun of yall that feel its ok to do this… sorry, not sorry.
You make great points and I get it. That being said I carry a chambered Glock all the time and have never been able to carry any of my 1911’s in condition 1. Just can’t do it.
By all means bro, if you’re not comfortable carrying a 1911 in condition 1- then don’t.. the Glock ,in this instance ,is a better choice...just carry!!
Great and informative video. I have and carry an old Springfield 1911 A1, which I am very happy with. However there is one major problem for me carrying in the cocked and locked position. I am left handed and it is extremely awkward for me to draw and reach the saftey in a hurry. I have practiced a lot of differnt ways to draw and fire and have settled on a method that suits me. I carry my weapon loaded but half cocked. When I cock my firearm, I insert the index finger of my right hand between the hammer and the firing pin. When I pull the trigger I slowly slide my finger out until the hammer is about half way, then release the palm saftey and I am at half cock. The hammer never touches the pin. In that position the firearm will not fire at all. When I draw and aquire the target, my right hand is already on its way up to cock the hammer and grip the gun firmly. This method may seem to be difficult for many people to get their head around, but if you are left handed you will understand. Most of the things in the world are set up for right handed people. Things like firearms, power tools and most hand tools as well. Things like sissors, snips and garden secateurs. Us lefties always need to adapt how we live to suit. Hehe.
@@southernarsenal908 True enough! Very few of us left who cut our teeth on wheel guns. We know and appreciate the difference between single and double action trigger pull. I operate under the belief that both have their place. In a high-risk environment it is 1911 time, every time. Low risk warm weather social situations require a striker-fired DA only in pocket carry.
I recently purchased a Kimber Micro 9. Is it safe to carry cocked and locked? It has a Crimson laser also. What kind of in the pocket holster would you recommend? Also, for hip carry, which holster?
Very good information thank you for sharing. Also in your opinion which firearm is better to carry for camping? A five cylinder snub nose 38 special revolver or a seven round 9mm pistol for self defense?
Well, it’s a hard decision sometimes.. we camp a lot too and I never take a special weapon . I just continue to carry my regular carry gun. Depending on the situation. I’d say the one you can hit with…
The same training you mention about the safety mechanisms on the 1911 can be applied to carry empty and drawing and racking the slide quickly .. same ole argument. Experience and practice are the best teachers
Maybe to a point. It’s only natural that a loaded weapon is faster to deploy than one you have to make ready when you’re being attacked. I don’t know anyone who’s actively being shot , stabbed, or even beaten that has the mind presence to draw and rack their firearm to defend themselves. Not reliably every time.
@@southernarsenal908 if I’m being shot, stabbed or severely beaten I’ve lost the advantage of being prepared from the beginning. Don’t get me wrong, I love 1911’s. I own several, but just like the military, police, armed security, it’s not the weapon of choice for carry for most. Especially cocked n locked, which the military never practiced. I’m not sure about police because every state or city have their own policies. You are advising people for the most part who carry appendage, to cock n lock that weapon pointed at their family jewels lol… of course if you are only advising this type of carry as “open carry” then I see no problem. Again it’s an ongoing opinion. My only concern is for new gun owners who don’t get the recommended training, especially for a 1911, but watch videos and consider themselves proficient.
@@dave_1958 you’ve obviously not watch a lot of my videos.. I’ve NEVER agreed with appendix carry, with NO weapon. In fact I’ve got videos explaining why I find it completely stupid to point a loaded gun at your wiener..I don’t advise people to do anything my friend.. this video is however to educate people why the 1911 is designed to be carried in condition 1- cocked and locked.and I agree, the 1911 is NOT for everyone. Got a video explaining that too.
@@southernarsenal908 you are absolutely correct. This is the first time your channel has popped up on my feed and I apologize, not trying to offend anyone. We are all here, I hope, for the same reasons. Discussing methods, weapon types and choices and education and most of all protecting our 2a rights. Good shooting friend, I will search for more of your videos. I always like a good discussion. My wife gets annoyed talking guns 🤪
great info people shoot themselves with glocks yeah they have trigger safety i will have to check out all your vids see if you talk how shoot glock safe thanks
I tried to post this under my last comment, almost got sick when it froze & I thought I'd lost it, so here's another try: 2 of 2 posts I made: @grahamohea2424 Graham, heck, EVERYONE, for what it's worth, (you better sit down for this one!), I never thought I'd say/do this, and almost, ALMOST felt guilty, for a minute, but I recently sold (& legally transferred BTW) a Colt Officers Enhanced I'd tweaked with some Wilson & Crimson Trace & carried left appendix crossdraw since time began, AND a 5" SS Springfield Loaded (yup, 2 1911's, I confess, & would do it again in a second)! I sold them to justify (read: afford!) buying a, hold on now, Dan Wesson Classic Bobtail Commander. Before you call the short bus on me, google it, UA-cam it, read & watch EVERYTHING you can find on it, then, since you will find NOTHING NEGATIVE about it, and can hardly wait to find one on Gun Broker, they are making them again limited production, you'll do like I did & pay the extra $30 for next-day, when it was free 2nd day included! Folks, it's just like holding a polished crystal egg. When you pull that trigger, you'd better have a towel ready to catch the Warm Molasses dripping out of the barrel! I could go on for hours, but just know this: Basically a 90% Ed Brown Custom for less than half the price. Now, if CRIMSON TRACE, HELLO, CRIMSON TRACE, will just RE- Start production of the Red Lazer grips for them, so I won't be forced to buy & bob a standard set, that is the only thing I will ever do to it other than shoot, clean & just gawk at it. I laughed at some of the guys on YT that I swear had tears in their eyes & were ready to Marry it, but, I'm not laughing any more, since I've run my wife to the couch, 'cause I'm sleeping with "Molasses" now! OK, I'm done, I've done my good deed. You can thank me later! Peace-out, Y'all.
Very informative vid sir ! I carry g 19 and g26 but have a desire to carry 1911 ! Your a smart guy ! Thanks again. You know what your speaking about 😀😀😀😀
Thank you sir
Great info. Ive had guns for years but just picked up a rock island 1911 in 45 cal. And you answered my questions about holsters.
Excellent presentation! I carry a full-size 1911 most days. I carry a 1911 EVERY day when going out into Metro
Atlanta. Warm weather social engagements require a 380 striker-fire 380 in pocket carry, otherwise, it's 1911 time.
I am in full agreement with everything in this video with one major exception: holsters.
First: I don't want to have to find a release tab in order to draw my pistol; I don't want to depend on a release tab to function properly. I know it's a simple toggle release, but it is a moving part and moving parts can and do fail. There are more than enough moving parts in a 1911 to keep me on my toes, without adding another one on my holster. I know it prevents someone from coming from behind and snatching the gun, but cross-draw carry with a strong forward cant pretty much prevents that.
Third: I want only top grade heavy leather in contact with my most important possession. Kydex is not friendly to a pistol's finish.It's also hard and unforgiving when pressed against one's body all day.
Fourth: I only own holsters for my 1911 that can give me the proper cant. In my case, the cant must tilt the butt of the pistol forward when carried cross-draw. Most right-handed holsters offered today are either offered with NO cant adjustment or cant adjustment only from upright to butt-forward when carried on strong-hand hip, not cross-draw. You can find holsters like mine in leather, but it will take some looking. I could save you some time right now, but I don't want this comment to come off like a sales pitch for a specific company.
Why cross-draw? How much time do you spend in a vehicle? What percentage of shootings occur on our highways and byways today? Have you noticed the increase? Have you tried to draw your pistol from hip-carry while behind the wheel? It ain't easy, what with seat belts and consoles in your way. Cross-draw is a better way so long as the cant is butt-forward. Try it, see for yourself.
What about concealed carry for a 1911? Hip carry on your strong side is going show a strong tendency to butt-print poking out from your waist. In addition, it is not possible to place your hand on your gun without telegraphing alarm when carrying on your strong-side hip. Both of these problems are mitigated by cross-draw. I've spent some tense moments leaning forward on a bar with my hand concealed by the bar under my jacket holding the butt of my 1911- and no one was the wiser (I am a retired Fed).
There is a disadvantage to cross-draw carry: for one, if you find yourself flat on your back under one or more assailants, drawing your gun will be more problematic-I know from experience. I can't think of more, but there may be.
Take my words as they are intended: as a possible help from an old man, and yes, cocked and locked is the only way for 1911 carry-just be sure and disengage the safety. How can you be sure to do that? Training, practice, practice. Make it muscle memory. Don't be found dead on the street with an unfired gun in your hand, safety on. Yes, it has happened.
Have carried a 1911 for nearly 50 years. My favorite firearm to carry fall and winter...and I have many others including Glock, Hellcat, Model 59, etc. Still the favorite, Another nice video, thank you sir.
Thank you!
I carry a 1911 everyday and i carry it cocked n locked but i also train with my 1911 to feel confident carrying it that way and unfortunately with how things have been lately in my home state i have to be ready at all times and i truly appreciate the great video and listening to what you have to say
Thank you sir.. carry on…
for me seeing the cocked hammer is a mental thing ill have to get over some day, even with the thumb safety and grip safety. a striker fired gun with a cocked striker and no safety seems worse in my mind. somehow a striker fired gun with a thumb safety is less of a mental block for me, and the easiest to comprehend as "safe" is a da/sa with a decocker and thumb safety. ive never owned a striker fired pistol but ive recently been looking to try out some that come with a thumb safety and see how that goes
Striker fired guns have safeties, they are just internal/automatic safeties. Usually a striker block safety and a drop safety (and Glock clones have initial trigger safeties). The only way to make them go off is by pulling the trigger. Classic 1911's are not completely drop safe and can go off if dropped on its muzzle even with the manual safety engaged, the grip safety not depressed, and without pulling the trigger/dropping the hammer. I don't hate 1911's (I'm actually practicing dry fire with my 1911 while watching this video) and totally agree that the best way to carry one is cocked and locked
Wasnt so much talking about internal or even external safeties in this video as I was talking about a mechanism you have to manually disengage to get the gun to go pow...and as a Stryker fired fan, the only safety that takes the operators input on many guns, without an obvious thumb safety, is the trigger blade..grab the gun and with proper grip , safety is disengaged automatically. No thought process needed really. As far as a 1911 being dropped on its muzzle causing it to fire, I guess anything is possible but there are also TONS of studies and hundreds of hours of testing to prove otherwise. In fact one of those reports was a suituation where an officer got into a struggle with a bad guy on a parking deck, badguy loses 1911 over railing, gun falls 4 stories and lands smack dab on the HAMMER!!! Hammer broke but gun still didn’t discharge..so, the video is about which way to carry the 1911 is safest..I only used Stryker fired guns as a prop to make a point...as far as dropping ANY gun on its muzzle, inertia can make the firing pin go forward to the primer I guess, but being that the slide is actually locked in place on a 1911, one would think that it would then become a pipe-bomb instead of a handgun since the slide could NOT cycle relieving the pressure BUT either way, I wasn’t talking about “drop safeties” only safeties that have to be manipulated to bring the weapon into battery ..Hope you got the point of the video though..
@@southernarsenal908 Fair enough
I liked the video and that’s a wonderful piece you have there do you do reloading? Would like to hear tips and tricks if you have experience in that field and any older weapons I adorn
Graham, I've got to correct you on one point: Earlier SERIES 70 1911's can indeed go off if dropped. Later SERIES 80's have a 3rd internal safety that prevents it from going off if dropped. HOWEVER, when pulling the trigger on an 80, you are moving 4 extra internal parts that are giving you that extra layer of protection, and debateably, this is why Competition shooters use the 70, because the trigger is smoother & has less "creep" upon take-up, it's not operating those 4 extra parts of an 80. But the 1911 trigger is superior on either series, IMHO, than a striker fired pistol. Also, IMHO, the differences in creep & smoothness are MORE noticeable as the quality of the guns increase, i.e. comparable quality & priced lower & mid (read: less refined) 70's & 80's will be, as a general rule, usually less noticeable, or not at all unless they are more closely scrutinized, than the more refined (Match, etc.) Models of both SERIES are. That's MY experience, and folks may or may not agree, but I'd love to hear other thoughts on it. Common sense, to me anyway, the more money you pay for more refinement, you should EXPECT to notice a difference. Otherwise, why spend the money if you DIDN'T notice a difference (which ultimately results in more accuracy). Holla, & Peace out. -David Innis
@@davidinnis6796 You are right. Series 70 and series 80 were the terms I was looking for
We have to get your subs up for sure
I carry a 1911 in winter and have for years and always cocked and locked
Let's all put our seatbelts on a split second before the crash happens...
Nah don't think so.Carry cocked and locked or stay home.
Very well said
you can carry pointing at your wiener if you have your weapon in a trigger guard Holster that covers and protects the trigger at all times until it is disengaged from the pistol. I have been using them for years and I even have one for my Springfield 9mm 1911 and I never fear an accidental discharge. check it out on youtube the videos on these Holsters are very good.
There is NO video or NOONE , regardless of what holster design that will ever convince me to point a loaded firearm at my junk or my femoral artery. Period… ive seen recent videos going off just by shaking them, striker fired handguns at that. Firearms are man made mechanical devices that can and DO fail. Ive personally seen a handgun safety fail while the gun was in the glovebox of a truck so….. not gonna happen here. Not gonna promote it and i WILL continue to try and discourage the reckless practice and make fun of yall that feel its ok to do this… sorry, not sorry.
You make great points and I get it. That being said I carry a chambered Glock all the time and have never been able to carry any of my 1911’s in condition 1. Just can’t do it.
By all means bro, if you’re not comfortable carrying a 1911 in condition 1- then don’t.. the Glock ,in this instance ,is a better choice...just carry!!
Thank you for this vid! What is the brand and model of the holster you showed??
That was a level 2 retention by Blackhawk. ( 2 levels of retention) 39.00 at Academy.
@@southernarsenal908 thank you very much, got an academy couple miles away from me. Tomball, Texas.
New sub great content thanks for your time.
Great and informative video. I have and carry an old Springfield 1911 A1, which I am very happy with. However there is one major problem for me carrying in the cocked and locked position. I am left handed and it is extremely awkward for me to draw and reach the saftey in a hurry. I have practiced a lot of differnt ways to draw and fire and have settled on a method that suits me.
I carry my weapon loaded but half cocked. When I cock my firearm, I insert the index finger of my right hand between the hammer and the firing pin. When I pull the trigger I slowly slide my finger out until the hammer is about half way, then release the palm saftey and I am at half cock. The hammer never touches the pin. In that position the firearm will not fire at all. When I draw and aquire the target, my right hand is already on its way up to cock the hammer and grip the gun firmly. This method may seem to be difficult for many people to get their head around, but if you are left handed you will understand. Most of the things in the world are set up for right handed people. Things like firearms, power tools and most hand tools as well. Things like sissors, snips and garden secateurs. Us lefties always need to adapt how we live to suit. Hehe.
Very simple to install an ambidextrous safety. That would solve your issue
Thank you. I wasnt aware that was available. I will look into that option.
I think what scares people is the 1911 trigger pull when cocked and locked as opposed to a DAO .
I would somewhat agree but, usually the ones who are scared of this wouldn’t know the difference in the trigger pulls…
@@southernarsenal908 True enough! Very few of us left who cut our teeth on wheel guns.
We know and appreciate the difference between single and double action trigger pull. I operate under the belief that both have their place. In a high-risk environment it is 1911 time, every time. Low risk warm weather social situations require a striker-fired DA only in pocket carry.
I recently purchased a Kimber Micro 9. Is it safe to carry cocked and locked? It has a Crimson laser also. What kind of in the pocket holster would you recommend? Also, for hip carry, which holster?
Very good information thank you for sharing. Also in your opinion which firearm is better to carry for camping? A five cylinder snub nose 38 special revolver or a seven round 9mm pistol for self defense?
Well, it’s a hard decision sometimes.. we camp a lot too and I never take a special weapon . I just continue to carry my regular carry gun. Depending on the situation. I’d say the one you can hit with…
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The same training you mention about the safety mechanisms on the 1911 can be applied to carry empty and drawing and racking the slide quickly .. same ole argument. Experience and practice are the best teachers
Maybe to a point. It’s only natural that a loaded weapon is faster to deploy than one you have to make ready when you’re being attacked. I don’t know anyone who’s actively being shot , stabbed, or even beaten that has the mind presence to draw and rack their firearm to defend themselves. Not reliably every time.
@@southernarsenal908 if I’m being shot, stabbed or severely beaten I’ve lost the advantage of being prepared from the beginning. Don’t get me wrong, I love 1911’s. I own several, but just like the military, police, armed security, it’s not the weapon of choice for carry for most. Especially cocked n locked, which the military never practiced. I’m not sure about police because every state or city have their own policies. You are advising people for the most part who carry appendage, to cock n lock that weapon pointed at their family jewels lol… of course if you are only advising this type of carry as “open carry” then I see no problem. Again it’s an ongoing opinion. My only concern is for new gun owners who don’t get the recommended training, especially for a 1911, but watch videos and consider themselves proficient.
@@dave_1958 you’ve obviously not watch a lot of my videos.. I’ve NEVER agreed with appendix carry, with NO weapon. In fact I’ve got videos explaining why I find it completely stupid to point a loaded gun at your wiener..I don’t advise people to do anything my friend.. this video is however to educate people why the 1911 is designed to be carried in condition 1- cocked and locked.and I agree, the 1911 is NOT for everyone. Got a video explaining that too.
I’m fact. I very loudly discourage carrying appendix in this very video..lol.
@@southernarsenal908 you are absolutely correct. This is the first time your channel has popped up on my feed and I apologize, not trying to offend anyone. We are all here, I hope, for the same reasons. Discussing methods, weapon types and choices and education and most of all protecting our 2a rights. Good shooting friend, I will search for more of your videos. I always like a good discussion. My wife gets annoyed talking guns 🤪
great info people shoot themselves with glocks yeah they have trigger safety i will have to check out all your vids see if you talk how shoot glock safe thanks
Is that Texas?
I tried to post this under my last comment, almost got sick when it froze & I thought I'd lost it, so here's another try: 2 of 2 posts I made: @grahamohea2424 Graham, heck, EVERYONE, for what it's worth, (you better sit down for this one!), I never thought I'd say/do this, and almost, ALMOST felt guilty, for a minute, but I recently sold (& legally transferred BTW) a Colt Officers Enhanced I'd tweaked with some Wilson & Crimson Trace & carried left appendix crossdraw since time began, AND a 5" SS Springfield Loaded (yup, 2 1911's, I confess, & would do it again in a second)! I sold them to justify (read: afford!) buying a, hold on now, Dan Wesson Classic Bobtail Commander. Before you call the short bus on me, google it, UA-cam it, read & watch EVERYTHING you can find on it, then, since you will find NOTHING NEGATIVE about it, and can hardly wait to find one on Gun Broker, they are making them again limited production, you'll do like I did & pay the extra $30 for next-day, when it was free 2nd day included! Folks, it's just like holding a polished crystal egg. When you pull that trigger, you'd better have a towel ready to catch the Warm Molasses dripping out of the barrel! I could go on for hours, but just know this: Basically a 90% Ed Brown Custom for less than half the price. Now, if CRIMSON TRACE, HELLO, CRIMSON TRACE, will just RE- Start production of the Red Lazer grips for them, so I won't be forced to buy & bob a standard set, that is the only thing I will ever do to it other than shoot, clean & just gawk at it. I laughed at some of the guys on YT that I swear had tears in their eyes & were ready to Marry it, but, I'm not laughing any more, since I've run my wife to the couch, 'cause I'm sleeping with "Molasses" now! OK, I'm done, I've done my good deed. You can thank me later! Peace-out, Y'all.
John Moses Browning designed the 1911 with a 5" bbl. That's good enough for me.