Sig P365 vs Ruger LCP Max for ccw-part 2.. decision made.

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • Decided which to carry daily.

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  • @internettroll7604
    @internettroll7604 2 роки тому +18

    Glad they came through. For me the Sig was the perfect gun until the Ruger. I prefer the Ruger Max .380 for reasons I stated in the comments of another video you did, but that’s the beauty of today’s world when it comes to concealed carry. There is a gun that pretty much fits everyone’s needs and views. And to be honest if what happened to you happened to me I would probably never feel comfortable with the Ruger even with them stepping up. The dilemma you had Is a great problem to have when you think about it. Just 5 years ago the concept of micro 9’s and .380’s that carried 10 plus easily concealed rounds was unheard of.

  • @clutchcargo1239
    @clutchcargo1239 2 роки тому +16

    Both good gun's to carry depending on circumstances. I picked the XL over the standard for about the same reasoning, and got the Ruger for special occasions. We have lot's of good choices these days... God Bless America!! 🇺🇸

    • @driverman269
      @driverman269 2 роки тому +1

      I just put a 365 xl on lay-a-way and am picking it up this next Saturday so I'm glad to hear what your saying! Blessings Brother 🙏

    • @philh1826
      @philh1826 Рік тому

      I carry a walther pps in the summer, but I really like the capacity of the sig 365. Still like the xl over the regular 365?

    • @clutchcargo1239
      @clutchcargo1239 Рік тому

      @@philh1826 Yes

  • @tobylopez445
    @tobylopez445 2 роки тому +20

    during my class of CPR, it was always stressed to not perform chest compressions of more than 2 or 2 1/2 inches so as not to hurt the person you are trying to save his life. so! if a 380 will penetrate 8 to 10 inches into a chest cavity, I really don't see any problem with that kind of penetration for stopping an aggressor. 14 to 18 seems like it will be a complete pass-through. just saying! I feel very confident with my 380's just as I do with my 9 mm pistols, I only choose one over the other depending on what type of clothes I will have on that day to go on and about.

    • @moisesrodriguez5997
      @moisesrodriguez5997 Рік тому

      Is correct I’m agreed %1000 with you

    • @gamerwinner4982
      @gamerwinner4982 Рік тому +1

      Gel penetration doesn't translate to human flesh penetration 1:1. The gel is just a test medium for consistency and control.

  • @BocatoBoynton
    @BocatoBoynton 2 роки тому +16

    I have enough trouble keeping my pants up with just keys in my pocket. LCP Max all the way for me but I sure wish I felt as comfortable carrying a heavier gun 👍

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +4

      To me, the sig is not heavy.. but then again I cut my teeth in a full sized 1911 then moved to a Glock 23 so, after carrying those bricks for years, the sig is cake…

    • @dcwaku
      @dcwaku 2 роки тому +3

      Get a belt designed for carry and it will help with the weight.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +3

      @@dcwaku I do now and always have wore a gunbelt.. a real gunbelt.. made by Nexbelt.. got a video on it ..

  • @keithtate1241
    @keithtate1241 Рік тому +2

    I can understand the advantages of carrying 9mm and that is my primary EDC. I do however also carry a 380 S&W M&P Bodyguard for pocket backup. I am considering taking a look at the Ruger LCP Max because of the capacity. Thanks for the video and keep shooting 😊.

  • @thepoliticallyindependent1512
    @thepoliticallyindependent1512 4 місяці тому +2

    I see a lot of comments regarding great customer service. When buying a firearm, customer service is low on my list for making decisions. If a firearm fails in a defensive situation when your life is on the line, what good is customer service? Customer service when it comes to firearms should be about putting out the most reliable product you can and not about how you fix an issue after the fact.

  • @Bobs2cents
    @Bobs2cents Рік тому +1

    I have both. For hot weather when I have light clothing I carry the max because of its amazing conceal ability and that the .380 can save your life and end a threat. In cold months, I carry my Taurus G3C. If I can hide it better, I’m carrying more firepower to stay safe and mind my own business. Good video, loved your take!

  • @johnmondayo9415
    @johnmondayo9415 2 роки тому +5

    Lehigh defense extreme penetrator 380. Gives you hollow point 9mm penetration in a 380. Problem solved. It's a barrier blind round and it's only negative is it doesn't expand so the diameter of the bullet is narrower than a 9mm hollow point, however, I find it hard to believe that there will be a scenario where a bullet diameter of .5 inches or .6 inches is the difference in stopping a threat versus point .35 inches. Nice to see a country boy opinion 👍

  • @properfpv7160
    @properfpv7160 9 місяців тому +1

    The .380 extreme defenders and extreme penetrators will go beyond 12”-14”. Also Hornady has some great defensive options and there are enough on the market to for .380 to make sense when a 9mm is too bulky. Would be nice to have the LCP II in 22lr for a range toy and LCP II and LCP Max in .380 as pocket pistols when the P365 isn’t practical. If the P365 is too big, the LCP max might be good but if that’s still too big the LCP II is very small and the spare 7+1 rnd magazine can fit in the left hand pocket for a total of 15 rounds. I skateboard at night and sometimes need the lightest possible carry option because these drug addicts I sometimes encounter are desperate, mentally unstable, often 51/50and unpredictable. I just cant skateboard with an anything down my pants but I still need to be able to defend myself if someone tried to attack me. I am pretty confident but recently a random person became extremely aggressive towards me. I’m pretty sure he was armed and I only had a skateboard. An incident like that could easily turn into an armed assault if it went just a little bit hotter but the chances I’ll have a 9mm when I’m skateboarding is low. A little LCP II could fit in my front pocket and at least I would have something. The reason I’m getting a concealed permit too. Because I don’t want to get assaulted by the police for having a concealed weapon on me for protection.

  • @woodsey52
    @woodsey52 2 роки тому +3

    Great video! I carry the p365 mostly in winter when I wear untucked flannel shirts or when wearing a coat. In summer I'm going to carry the max 380 because my shirts and tees aren't the baggy style.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +1

      Sometimes you have to choose your clothing around the gun…

  • @hansblitz7770
    @hansblitz7770 2 роки тому +3

    Crazy how close in size those are, It seems like from separate pics the Ruger would be way smaller, especially the slide width and magwell. Good point about shooting through auto glass, 9mm loads just completely outclass anything in the .380.
    Some of the oddball 9mm will punch level II or even 3-A armor, which no .380 will do.

  • @stefanfful
    @stefanfful Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the vid. If I can wear it on my belt its my 365 xl if its going in my pocket its the LCP MAX.

  • @BobDiaz123
    @BobDiaz123 2 роки тому +2

    Numerous ballistic gel test show that In order to get the penetration with a 380ACP, FMJ is required. If one uses a HP, either there's under penetration or the HP never expands . With 9mm, an HP is best for proper penetration. If someone uses a FMJ, over penetration is very likely.
    No question that 9mm has better stopping power than 380ACP, but there are some people who either can't or don't want to deal with the strong kick from 9mm. Either way, no one in their right mind would want to be hit with either round, so both are good for CCW.

  • @LouisEvangelista007
    @LouisEvangelista007 2 роки тому +3

    Nice review! I was thinking of the lcp max as a secondary piece to my p 365 . Im leaning now to just get a Xcompact sig for some extra fire power and just carry the p365 90% of time.

  • @MultiSweener
    @MultiSweener Рік тому +1

    Bro, just went through this. New barrel and slide assembly. Came back. 80 rounds flawless until the trigger group failed. Sent it back and the trigger bar was replaced. Got it yesterday and haven't tested it, but in the meantime my new Sig will be tested as well. And yes, Ruger has excellent customer service.

  • @richb.4374
    @richb.4374 2 роки тому +1

    I own and like both pistols so I can't really say I like or prefer one over the other. For me the P365 carries very easily and I pocket carry my LCP Max. Some days I don't feel like wearing a gun on my belt all day so I switch to pocket carry. Both are great pistols and will fit just about anyone's needs for a ccw.

  • @lousquitieri4234
    @lousquitieri4234 Рік тому +1

    Good job. I came across the same dilemma. I also chose 9mm; either my 43X or my CR920. Further, I bought a lcp max and I was one of the unlucky ones and got a lemon

  • @JoseFlores-pm7qg
    @JoseFlores-pm7qg Рік тому +3

    Glock 27 is still king.💪 It's like 9 guns in 1. Straight up!🫡
    But you can always carry the LCP MAX with Underwood Xtreme Defenders. That will work just fine.

  • @waynehankinson8210
    @waynehankinson8210 2 роки тому +4

    Subsonic rounds of any type don’t have the velocity for a hollow point to expand. So with the .380 the Underwood round that looks like a Philips screwdriver and made of copper won’t expand but it will penetrate to a decent depth. If you want a round that expands move up to a faster 9mm round that has enough velocity to expand in a hollow point. Going by FBI stats and the ballistics gel they use is different gel than virtually all videos you can find. So the FBI says 12 inches of penetration, in lower grade gel probably 16-18 inches with the same round and weapon. I really have no problem with anything this guys says, he has everything thought out and if he has to ever explain his self in court I doubt he will have any problems.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +1

      I agree with you on the velocities of the rounds. That’s a big reason I prefer the 9mm in this comparison. I appreciate the kind words sir..

  • @teamground0229
    @teamground0229 2 роки тому +1

    Have the Ruger Max because I have to no print-pocket carry for my work scenarios. After a cleaning and lubrication, it has shot reliably. Does shoot low however. Not sure if I should get service on it. The Sig looks like a good choice also.

  • @charleywalker2982
    @charleywalker2982 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for your unbiased review and keep them coming please.

  • @guycarter251
    @guycarter251 Рік тому +1

    Simple & to the point. Like the reasoning.

  • @davidthomas761
    @davidthomas761 2 місяці тому +2

    I want both

  • @davidcleveland9815
    @davidcleveland9815 2 роки тому +3

    That was a great video makes you think I've been thinking about getting that 380 lcp max I've already got that p365 nra version love it shots good think I'll just stick with my 365 🙂👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 I'm glad I seen your video about these pistols

  • @Aaron-ro4kv
    @Aaron-ro4kv 2 роки тому +4

    I have p365 with 147 hst...going to lcp max with 99 grain hydra shok deep

  • @soundsnags2001
    @soundsnags2001 6 місяців тому

    Never had an issue with a trigger getting snagged, but i do wish i had that blade on my sig trigger just for one tiny extra bit of security

  • @GiftedGentleman87
    @GiftedGentleman87 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for making this video

  • @GreatWhiteCat
    @GreatWhiteCat 8 місяців тому +1

    I can't aim my LCP max for crap....I like it, but its definitely for up close and dirty

  • @jasonusaf6326
    @jasonusaf6326 Рік тому +1

    I have both of these guns. Both excellent for CCW

  • @flyontop
    @flyontop 2 роки тому +2

    Regardless of my opinion this is a great down to earth video. Good to know other armed citizens opinions and reasons. Be safe!

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому

      I think the bottom line is, there’s a plethora of handguns out there and no 1 gun is perfect for everyone.. just carry what you are comfortable and proficient with.. as long as you are armed.. that’s the key.God Bless.

    • @flyontop
      @flyontop 2 роки тому +1

      @@southernarsenal908 agreed! I have both guns and went through the same decision making process. Ended up choosing the P-365 as my edc.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +1

      @@flyontop well… as much as I like both these weapons, I actually went with something completely different… more on that to come in a future video, lol..

    • @flyontop
      @flyontop 2 роки тому +1

      @@southernarsenal908 😂 looking forward to it and perhaps learn another reason to get a new gun!!!!

  • @LouisEvangelista007
    @LouisEvangelista007 2 роки тому +2

    Great review! Spot on !

  • @mike_adams
    @mike_adams 2 роки тому +2

    Have you looked at the p365 chambered in .380? Couple oz lighter if .380 not a concern.

  • @SheikOutdoors
    @SheikOutdoors 2 роки тому +3

    I wanted to love my lcp MAX so much ...

    • @robreadinger5340
      @robreadinger5340 2 роки тому +1

      Ok?

    • @six-pack1332
      @six-pack1332 2 роки тому

      But.....

    • @SheikOutdoors
      @SheikOutdoors 2 роки тому +1

      @@six-pack1332 But I didn't have enough practice with it and instead of realizing it was shooter error I blamed the gun first. Under snappy recoil my grip was riding up and interacting with the slide catch, locking the slide back. It took me over 1000 rounds to figure out what was going on, and this was last weekend after someone saw what I was doing wrong.

  • @LKaramazov
    @LKaramazov 2 роки тому +2

    I bought one and haven’t taken it to the range yet. To me you shouldn’t have to send it back.you pay a lot of money, you shouldn’t have to fix the problems. Im gonna be bummed out if I have a bunch of problems with it.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +2

      Honestly, I was pissed… and in the end, they sent the slide and a shipping label for me to return the “old” one..

  • @iokepa611
    @iokepa611 Рік тому +1

    Got both guns, carry both of them depending on what season it is.

  • @mattredshow6855
    @mattredshow6855 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome video

  • @bobdallegro7696
    @bobdallegro7696 2 роки тому +1

    The Sig P365 is significant larger and heavier than the LCP Max... there's a big difference when trying to conceal and carry in your pocket, which is what the LCP was primarily built to do.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +1

      That depends on your definition of “significantly larger”.. which it is not. It’s true that It IS larger but the main difference is the weight. And it’s not a fair comparison between the two, The Sig was not designed for pocket carry like the Max was so… there’s that. Both fill a space in my ccw rotation so, I don’t see either as a negative.

    • @bobdallegro7696
      @bobdallegro7696 2 роки тому

      @@southernarsenal908 I agree, I don't see either as being a disadvantage, but I also agree that it's not a fair comparison... Which is why I replied in the first place. In making a choice you are comparing one to the other, that is a comparison. Therefore the contents of the video is not fair, in my opinion.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +2

      @@bobdallegro7696 you are entitled to your opinion sir.. the video was just a comparison of 2 popular handguns. Which one you decide to choose is completely up to you..all my videos are MY opinion, like I’ve said in many of them.. not to be confused with actual fact. I even encourage you to do your own research and make decisions for yourself.. but I appreciate the conversation..

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +1

      @@bobdallegro7696 I think when you compare 2 of the hottest handgun on the market today, it’s a needed comparison, and very fair.. and there are others I’m gonna compare to these 2 that people may wanna see so.. be sure to subscribe to the Channel sir.. God Bless.

    • @bobdallegro7696
      @bobdallegro7696 2 роки тому

      @@southernarsenal908 Just to be clear, I don't disagree that the Sig is a better gun, I just don't believe it's in the same category based on weight, size and price as the LCP Max. . . and again, that's why I feel the comparison was not fair.

  • @Crankinstien
    @Crankinstien Рік тому +1

    Love my Ruger max!

  • @netwt449
    @netwt449 2 роки тому +2

    Hey southern, what kind of safety on the sig? BE WELL!

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +2

      With the one I have there is no external manual safeties. However, the 365 can be had in many different configurations.. they offer an external manual safety plus it naturally has an internal firing pin safety block and the trigger itself is slightly heavier. So, with the p365, like many many other carry handguns, the main safety is gonna be between your ears… 😉

  • @ditchdigger93
    @ditchdigger93 2 роки тому +3

    I don't know that all of them shoot low, but the LCP Max I ended up with certainly did and not a little bit but a lot low. Mine has a pretty mushy trigger that just stung the heck out of your trigger finger every time you shot it to the point of painful, like a bee sting. As I've shot mine both problems have improved and hopefully will continue to improve especially in the accuracy department. Function wise, it has proven to be reliable with most rounds. So, no complaints there.

  • @LKaramazov
    @LKaramazov 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve heard that hollow points out of the ruger don’t expand and aren’t don’t feed as reliably? I was thinking about using ball, but you said it overpenetrates! That’s terrible!

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +4

      It’s not just the ruger… it’s not just the 380 caliber… when ammo companies put the ballistics and trajectory ect on a box of ammo… the test gun always has a longer barrel. As long as they can get to increase numbers.. short barrel anything, handguns, rifles ect will always come in slower, with less energy and less expansion than what’s on the box..all I can say is, a lot of smaller pistols have an issuer with wide cavity hp ammo. The LCP Max I have does not..that’s why you always shoot whatever load you are carrying… verify your self defense load…

  • @lawson9102
    @lawson9102 2 роки тому +2

    I carry the Max it's great for deep concealing like going to Church or doctor apt how ever I carry a Glock 19 on my hip with a shirt pulled out over it and the max as a back up in my pocket when I go to town now I did meet a guy who was shot 5 times with a 380 4 rounds to the upper legs and one through the lower back and the projectile just broke the skin on the front and was still sticking out the skin and was going to have to be surgically removed at some point the rounds in the legs none penetrate all the way through but in my profession I have met a man who lived and took 5 hits from a 40 cal but that is another story

  • @inland85
    @inland85 2 роки тому +1

    You made the rite choice i love my SIG 365 in 380 had a Ruger MAX 380 it was a peace of junk it would pinch your finger
    on the trigger every time you shot it also it would jam all the time tried different ammo and 2 different MAGS !!!

    • @elche1976
      @elche1976 2 роки тому

      Lol sounds like user error. Somehow I've managed to never pinch my finger once. But then again, I hold it correctly and shoot it standard. I'm at 'peace' with it. It works 'rite' for me.

  • @oathkeeper926
    @oathkeeper926 Рік тому +1

    Now they make the sig in 380

  • @funnyman1972
    @funnyman1972 Рік тому

    Carry ball ammo is stupid considering if your hollow points don't open they are ball ammo anyways.

  • @johnblackbird7523
    @johnblackbird7523 Рік тому

    Sig vs Max

  • @cardvill1859
    @cardvill1859 2 роки тому +1

    Max all day

  • @grits_taste_good415
    @grits_taste_good415 2 роки тому

    Why might the .32 H&R mag be crap?

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +3

      Because it’s a weak almost extinct cartridge that’s not much more powerful than a 22wmr. Have had a couple and it’s not what I’d suggest for your ccw.. research it.

    • @jerrylisby3440
      @jerrylisby3440 Рік тому

      @@southernarsenal908 22 mag is nothing to sneeze at. But I also don't shoot well with 9mm on up because of recoil mostly. I wish I could.

  • @Crankinstien
    @Crankinstien Рік тому

    No sound bro

  • @awelder4040
    @awelder4040 2 роки тому +1

    You should have bought a Ruger LCP max, because it beats the p365 .380 in every single category... weight, size and accuracy and for almost half the cost... WTF... Sig you think paying for a name is really worth that much... Nope....!!!

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +4

      Watch the video…. I DID buy a Ruger LCP max…. And no, it doesn’t beat the sig in every category. Only size.

  • @stevencosby6708
    @stevencosby6708 2 роки тому +3

    I was confronted by a man in my driveway a couple of weeks ago. He walked up and started questioning me about who lived in my home. I ask him who he was, he told he didn't have to tell me who he was and was acting weird. The 12" knife on his belt gave me reason to be concerned the LCP Max in my belt was underpowered. Went back to my P365, that day. Just my 2 cents.

    • @jolo4036
      @jolo4036 2 роки тому +5

      Underpowered? Knife vs 380? No contest.The right ammo, and you'll have plenty of power.

    • @craigsbuyer2270
      @craigsbuyer2270 2 роки тому +4

      @@jolo4036 absolutely

    • @mastersifu2118
      @mastersifu2118 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you gentlemen for your knowledge and wisdom!

    • @elche1976
      @elche1976 2 роки тому

      @Stephen Cosby spoken by a person who has no understanding of what they are talking about. Good luck with that mental block of yours.

  • @alane7896
    @alane7896 2 роки тому

    save 100% on cost of gun just tell robber I HAVE A GUN

  • @orangedodge8333
    @orangedodge8333 2 роки тому

    Sig sucks

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  2 роки тому +2

      Care to elaborate? I mean, a strong statement like that needs to be explained, lol..

  • @markreagan2956
    @markreagan2956 Рік тому

    In fact most .380 hollow points have a hard time expanding so they penetrate just fine.

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  Рік тому

      Thats not actually so.. good quality ammo , even 380 acp WILL expand as described. Im not talking about wally world winchester white box either. Stick around and i intend on proving it on an actual flesh animal this deer season.

  • @markreagan2956
    @markreagan2956 Рік тому

    6-8 inches of penetration with a hollow point? I've never seen that ever with a .380. It's usually 11-14 inches. 9mm is only a couple inches more

    • @southernarsenal908
      @southernarsenal908  Рік тому

      Youve never seen a 380 acp hp with 11-14 inch penetration if the bullet expands… if that were so, there would be no debate on which is better 9mm or 380.. and only a couple inches more out of the 9mm?? Lol. Sometimes the internet can lead you astray. Js