7 Klon Style Pedals And How They Sound - Comparison (no talking)
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Here´s a comparison of 7 Klon Centaur clones and how the sound with many settings.
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2:49 Tumnus
3:04 Conspiracy Theory
3:20 Archer
3:36 Soul Food
3:52 Sugar Drive
4:08 Caline
4:23 JOYO
these comparisons viodeos are so well made, by far the best I've seen
Agree
THANK YOU for doing this! I really appreciate your organized scientific method, the consistent settings, your musical playing and the wide variety of looped samples. You set the standard for useful product demos!
4:39 Tumnus
4:58 Conspiracy Theory
5:13 Archer
5:32 Soul Food
5:49 Sugar Drive
6:07 Caline
6:24 JOYO
I bought the Way Huge a few months back. Couldn't be happier. :)
And after all that, they still just sound like a pedal. The fuss over the Klon is incredible. Probably my second least favourite drive type behind tubescreamers.
Still, I decided to add a klone to the collection. I went with the MXR Fat Sugar. Not because it sounded better (they all sound the same), but because I'm an MXR fan boy, it's in a large housing, it's pink and it's called a Fat Sugar. What's not to love?
My ears are broken, I can't tell any difference.
Mine must be broken too.
Maybe because most of them are using the same circuit topology. They call them "clones" for a reason.
They all sound pretty damn close to each other that in a mix or band context, those subtle differences wouldn’t matter at all.
The comparison videos of this channel are top notch!
Love your demos!
Tumnus & the Sugar Drive sound best to my ear
This is the best comprison video I've seen so far👍
The mini Tumnus is magic….what a fantastic sounding overdrive…Brian Wampler gave us such a little gem…💎
Surprized the joyo sounds good, the soul food and the mxr are just o.k.
I have the pegasus and it is awesome.
In this video I liked the tumnus for low gain chord stuff and the archer and soul food for high gain, but I am very happy with the pegasus for under $50
got the Joyo Tauren, I like the lights on the R-series... and its very cheap. And the mosky one is quieter (volume knob less range) + more noisy
Way huge sounds warmer than all others to me.
Great video, thanks!
Thanks for the video. I’m really surprise about the way huge pedal. Really interesting compare to with the archer. Which one do you like the most?
Has anybody ever told you: "Your guitar part was great, but I noticed: your overdrive didn't sound like a real Klon..." ?
Hahaha it's happened to me exactly never times.
At 4:30 I appreciate you confirming that my Tauren is absolute garbage EQ wise. Thank you! I’m not crazy. It does suck.
Call me crazy but, the differences in all are relatively negligible. But I'm the guy who could never hear the difference between 18 ga. lamp cord and Monster Cable to my speakers. JOYO (pricewise) looks and sounds like a winner. Archer, clean and strong. And as of today (5/5/22) MXR is selling a new FAT SUGAR (standard housing), sparkle pink, and will take a 9v battery w/internal switchable true bypass for $79.
Way Huge, Wampler and then Caline for me. J Rockett Ikon is great too. These are all great pedals with slightly different characteristics. The only one I don't like is the Soul Food. I've owned it, it sounds very treble-y for my taste. Also, surprisingly it's not very well built
Not a nickel’s worth of difference between them in the mix.
Way Huge OK!
Very nice demo - without talk :-)
Way Huge stood out, especially solo'ed. Archer was also great in the mix.
Just got a way huge. Great pedal, has a really pleasant low gain sound with some nice overtones that make it really sing.
It also stacks well with my jhs 3 series distortion (basically a rat)
@@jakeman1397 jhs before or after?
@@eliasp8645 jhs after works best - tightens it up a bit
yep..take note folks, this is all it takes to make a pedal demo, well done
Very nice!
They sound really similar to each other in low gain setting, but it seems that each one has their own flavor in high gain setting! really interesting...
4:47 Tumnus
5:05 Conspiracy Theory
5:23 Archer
5:40 Soul Food
5:58 Sugar Drive
6:15 Peagasus
6:33 Tauren
i wish someone would rehouse an original Centaur in 1590BB enclosure and compare it to another original Centaur just to see people saying that the original is better. kinda like that Tubescreamer magic chip nonsense that was tested with a live group and no one could tell the difference. the circuit is great sounding, that's it, the rest is hype and scarcity.
Yes, the corksnifferey surrounding Klons I ridiculous.
I'm surprised with the Joyo version. Too clear! That's my choice, followed by Rockett Archer at 2nd place.
Agree, it's super crisp and for $50? Perfect.
I own it and honestly, it's one of my top 3 pedals out of the 12 I own. It just does the thing.
I think Archer and Joyo are the best. I got a Joyo because it was cheap and good... Otherwise I'd probably go with the Archer.
Way Huge best in this comparison (to my ears)
Way Huge and MXR is my favorite in this test
I decided on a conspiracy theory & love it.
Trying to do a blind test on my studio speakers. After a bit, I started to memorize the order. So I wish there was a way I could shuffle.
But to the best of my ability to be objective...
I consistently didn't like the Conspiracy Thoery. It's not that I thought it was bad whatsoever. It just has a quality to it that isn't for me. It's a quality that I think is well-suited for more hard rock, borderline-metal guitar players and less for a blues-rock guy like me.
I would hear the Tumnus at the beginning and nothing else seemed to be as good. And Idk if it's because it was first? But it seems like it just has the right sound.
And then the Tauren would get my attention again. Those two sticked out to me.
But I think I like the tumnus better. The Tauren seems like it has a more open sound, which makes it a bit less forgiving to Pick/finger noises. I recently got the Joyo Taichi and I feel like it's the same way. Like when I compare the Taichi with my Blues Driver or Tube Screamer, it is somehow clearer and more dynamic while emphasizing more of those picking noises than the others. As if the others are ever so slightly gated. It's a very subtle quality and a minor criticism. But I think the Tauren is doing the same thing.
Other than that, I think I like the tone on the Tauren and Tumnus best.
Archer for me
3:04 Way huge
3:20 archer
3:52 sugar drive
I think tumnus, sugar and soul food were the best in all terms. Only price is their difference
Joyo was a good surprise. I would expect something more from conspiracy and archer
Joyo and ehx are they very similar?
They sound remarkably similar. And to drive the spike even deeper, these don't use Germanium diodes. Also I've heard several of them A/B'd with a Klon, and there was no difference there either.
Don't they all sound quite the same? I thought so, while listening. I don't think there is one pedal you can't make to sound like the other with just small turning of the knobs...or did you notice big differences in feel?
When I demo'd a few of these, they'd only really differ at some of their extreme settings. But yes, you're correct, a few knob twists and you can get damn close. In person, not video, some high and bass frequencies differ slightly, but in a mix not so much. I think you'd be happy with any of these choices. I love the small size of the mxr. I've owned a soul food, and had problems with the switch shorting out, my only complaint.
@@lancecass8997 In a mix yes very little difference. The soul food and the MXR sound not great here but I own a sugar drive and it's great in a mix. The archer is closest to what a klon is, the tumnus js great but I already the sugar drive and it's not worth switching to the tumnus.
Top 2 picks for me are the Tumnus and the Archer.
Bottom 2 are the Pegasus and Sugar Drive.
4:39
Silver Archer
In a band mix so close.
All pretty similar. The outputs and gain levels are a little different. Way Huge seems to have slightly more bottom end, Pegasus seems to have more clean signal mixed in so has a little clearer transient response. Interesting video, I own the Way Huge, doesn’t seem like I’m missing out on much but not having a more expensive Klone. If anything I like the low end a little better. Thanks for the reassurance!
Same here. Love my Conspiracy Theory.
My ears might be going, but I've found you can make almost any drive sound like something else with an EQ pedal right after it.
Now if you get a programmable EQ and dial your settings in, you can get 4+ different ODs in two pedals. You can make a TS sound like a Klon, A Klon like a TS, BluesBreaker, it's almost limitless!
You're welcome ;)
The Archer.
Well, the Conspiracy Theory appears to be a Tumnus clone, whether either sounds like a Klon who knows?
Not a huge Klon fan, as far as transparent overdrives are concerned I am more in the blues breaker camp, but I would probably go for the way huge
They really aren't that transparent, and I think that's what can throw some people off. They actually get darker and midhumped the more you turn the gain up, but they can be very uncolored as a boost, which is probably why people call them "transparent". They are a great boost or front end stacker with a more neutral overdrive, like a Bluesbreaker or Greer Lightspeed.
Tumnus followed by the Tauren and Soul Food for my ears.
I had the Tumnus (4:39) but think I’m gonna make the switch to the Conspiracy (4:57) - using mainly as a boost before tube screamers
4:48
5:23
5:41
5:58
My Way Huge Conspiracy Theory pedal sounds thin and frail through my Fender 65 PRRI compared to my Wampler Mini Tumnus. Through the Vox AC 10 with built in gain, both pedals sound fuller. I dont recommend Way Huge Conspiracy Theory, it just makes you want an overdrive pedal. Somehow in these videos Conspiracy Theory pedals have gain. I would recommend the Tumnus. I first tried the MXR Sugar Drive. It had barely any gain, I recall myself imagining hearing any. May have been defective
They mostly sound the same to me
not enough Mosky Horse, it seems to me that it sounds great, redone, how the Klone should sound, and not the itch and sand.
Mosky is so cheaply made. I had their DOD 250 / MXR Distortion+ clone and they had installed the wrong potentiometers so the gain sweep was finnicky to dial in properly.
Granted not many people would notice the difference between a Mosky Horsey and some of the pedals here in a blind test, I just don't trust Mosky's manufacturing practices...
And you know what?? Watone effect pedal said: after mod many overdrive pedal,the boutiqe or reguler.. the basic inside of all overdrive is tube screamer ..is a fact..!!
What do you mean after mod?
Mereka ga kenal watone om
Hmm, I'm surprised there is no real Klon for reference. Awesome video anyway!
This channel has videos with the klon, this vid was just to compare the remakes.
It should have the real Klon too for sound reference, indeed.
Wampler
Subtle differences..
In order of quality and transparency of sound.
1 Archer
2 Tumnus
3 Pegasus
4 Soul Food
5 Tauren
6 Way Huge
7 MXR
I can’t believe how heat that Tauren sounds. The archer is to me the clear winner. But that Tauren was surprisingly good 👍
The clear winner to my ears is the Tumnus. It sounded positively magical on every clip. My least favorites were the Soul Food and MXR, which both sounded just like they did when I tried them- lacking dynamics and with shrieky highs. The Archer was ok, but not for $200. There was nothing really special about it, and I like the Archer Ikon more. The Way Huge was very disappointing, also seemingly lacking in dynamics and sounding very dull and bland to me. My favorites after the Tumnus were two of the Klones I own, the Pegasus and Tauren. The Pegasus is one of the lowest gain Klones I own, and, because of that, is more open and less compressed than many others, although I like the slightly higher gain Caline Medusa even more, which is kind of their take on the Archer Ikon. The Tauren is just about halfway in-between the Pegasus and Medusa as far as gain level and compression goes, but the highs do get spitty when the gain is all the way up. My other favorite that I own is the Movall Minotaur, which is a little higher gain than the Pegasus, about like the Tauren, but is still quite bright and open sounding. It's just a rehoused Azor AP-320, which is the Azor Klone, and Azor is Caline's line of mini pedals. All the new Movall pedals are just repackaged Azor pedals with fancier graphics
Soul Food: 02:07
Tauren: 02:38
What have we learned here?
That if you want to hear a difference you will…even though there is none.
Get a Joyo, probably the least expensive with the coolest lights. 🤘🏽😎🤘🏽
Tauren has cheep tone, mxr is best, and way huge ok
they all sounds good except conspiracy theory, archer and joyo that loose clarity
Electro Harmonix soul food by a mile over the rest..
I hate pedal videos without talking. Like, yeah, thanks for the sounds but I want to hear your opinion. I can find this same stuff anywhere else.
God forbid you form your own opinion instead of listening to someone elses
Tumnus and the Archer are a class above. The Joyo Tauren is terrible - all fizzy high end and no articulation.
See the tone knob?
classic case of confirmation bias
@@caliathleticfitness5602 I don't any of them. So how is it confirmation bias? It's just an opinion. FYI I own a mythos mjolnir for klon stuff.
Tumnus sounds best. Wayhuge and archer close second.