7 Dumble Style Pedals and how they sound - Comparison (no talking)
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I have both the Zen and Rumble Drive. Surprisingly for a quick run to a jam I grab the Rumble and Am always happy with the results. The Zen of course stays on the board! Good video!!
Really GREAT job showing the possibilities of each. Amazing coincidence that my ranking is the exact order in which you demo! I own the first three. I have never bonded with the Zen but your demo sounds very nice, I need to pull it out again. Love my Euphoria but love the Big LLoyd F-6 made by Brian Wampler's co-designer a little more it's along the same line but just sweeter. My Simble in my setup is not quite as dark as in your demo and another great sounding and playing pedal. After those the others did not send that tingle up my leg.
THE BEST demo and comparison videos on UA-cam. End.
I finally got my dumble tone through euphoria. Its sound and variation are one of the top overdrive pedals. Thanks to wampler!
I liked the Dude and Zendrive, but still prefer my Cornerstone Gladio SC over them both for that Dumble sound. It has a clean blend that give it an airiness / glassiness that you normally only find in a real that is breathing. Great demo.
...have to admit, the Dude surprised me, sounded great. Thanks for presenting this!
The Dude changed my playing in the best way! 30 plus years playing and it got me out of a rut in a snap. The harmonics are palpable when in the room. I'm always skeptical of digital reviews but this one was on point. The Simble was pretty good, too.
@rbangle
I didn't care for The Simble, but The Dude made me sit up and take notice.What a great sounding pedal!
That one really jumped out at me. less compressed and the whole top end presentation was more 3D and bouncy. Similar to a good Klone, in that the upper mids are just more 'alive'. I'm not sure how Dumble it is, but I liked it.
This is the best comparison video ever! Thanks very much for sharing. Zendrive sounds the best to my ears. There's just something about the way it compresses.
Yeah that ZenDrive just hits the sweet spot nicely. Almost can put these pedals up against some of the more popular “Plexi In A Box” type pedals and I bet people would vote for a lot of these over those if they were blindfolded :)
Agree
Good demo! I sort of regret selling my Simble a couple of years back. Nothing sounds like a good amplifier, but all these pedals sound pretty good. Each seems excel in its own way. I was impressed by the Joyo TaiChi in this demo.
This is such a fantastic video. Thank you for doing this.
Great comparison video! Thanks.
Lately tested the Dude, the Euphoria and the Zendrive side by side for about 3 hours. The Euphoria is the most versatile, it ranges from a clean boost to almost a fuzz. Good for people who love to turn knobs, but I was looking for a set and forget pedal. The Dude sounded great, but I found a setting on the Zendrive that exactly fits my Strats and Teles, my Firebird is very ok with it. But it also depends on the amp and even more on your fingers and last but not least on your ears.
Nice comparing, no wasted time talking. Wish it included Ultraphonix and Ethos. Love my Ethos OD
Thank you for playing this with music (opening segment). It's impossible to judge a pedal's tone without context.
Well done demo - thank you! My conclusion...buy the least expensive one and be done with it! The subtle differences all go away when the drums and bass start up. Or collect them all - whatever makes you happy!
I thought the Mooer Rumble Drive and the Joyo Taichi sounded amazing considering their price, why spend more if you want this tone.
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Agree, they all sound great.
I like the Zendrive and Mooer the most. Could be different when you actually plug it in an amp and play with the settings
Hi. First I think all sound good. I have the zendrive and dude and like them a lot. However on this comparison, for me, the Simble was the best.
I owned the Euphoria for years. Have the Dude now. Dream of the Zen. But that Simble sounded amazing!
how does the dumble compare to the euphoria?? thanks!
Great video shootout, Zendrive is where it’s at ;)
Z 3:34 W 3:54 S 4:13 Dude 4:32 Mxr 4:52 Mooer 5:11 Joyo 5:30
Thankyou!! Great video!!! Greetings from Catalonia.
Greetings from Quebec !
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The dude and Euphoria to my ears!
Best comparison. Thx
Awesome comparison!! Very informative to the guitarist who can’t afford to buy all these pedals! Now go buy the 1 you like best!! Thx💥👍
Surprisingly, I liked the Joyo best and the Wampler least. That chrome enclosure is pretty slick. I think the front and back panels light up too. Update: I've bought the Taichi because of this video, and I love it! It goes first in my signal chain and it's always on. Cleans up great with instrument volume.
just had to order the Joyo, especially as discontinued, keeping my 68 Ped Inca Kola, almost ordering a 2nd one, but am hoping itll last so ordered the Joyo Taichi, someone called it Touchy which to me me is a good sign!😍
@@kimmolingonheimo Happy with the Joys?
That Mooer sounded pretty good
I'll tell you why everyone loves the dude pedal. Because no matter what amp comes out our ears are all trained toward a late sixties Plexi sound and the dude does a very good jtm45
The Euphoria and The Dude I really like. All the pedals sound good in this demo…
Great work! I'll fo for the simble!
ZenDrive for the win. But all do a really nice job actually.
The Mad Professor Simble. I love mine. I need a 2nd one. The clean gives you SRV’s “Lenny”, and the dirty gives you Robben Ford’s “Talk To Your Daughter.” What more could you want in a D-Style pedal?
Upon a 2nd listen here and funnily enough, all the “green pedals” have some “fizz,” with a shifted Mids. To MY ears, the Simble and The Dude have the most “resonant” qualities and the “Dumble In A Box” vibe. No need for another Tube Screamer, nor do I have the $$ for the D-Style amps. MY .02¢
@@shanegolden3948 I have both...
Kimmo Lingonheimo That’s killer - The Dude will be my next purchase shortly!
I have the simble but want a Dude for the Sizzle
It’s most apparent in glissando
I like the Simble best... but I think it's only because I already have too many orange and green pedals 🤣🤘
The wood grain definitely improves the sound.
I have collected four Simbles ( now discontinued for some reason), my first in chain pedal, after it the wonderful EQ Fender Engager Boost to add som mids...
I can let go of my gladio but not my simble. But that zendrive is interesting.
Always a good reason!
@@jay2xtremefy The one that has my interest at the moment is the Crazy Tube Circuits Crossfire....not projected as a Dumble sound but more SRV....so in the same general area.
JOYO is the best-looking, but the Simble sounds amazing
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Dude I was really impressed by the Joyo Taichi! I liked it more than The Dude and a lot of the other clones. It was either that one or the Simble. That pedal sounded incredible as well and a cut above the rest
Mate seriously!?!? idk..
@@killnoni5032 uhm...yes? yes I’m serious? I don’t know why I would be lying about something like that lmao
@@1337wafflezz I didn’t mean you’re lying mate, calm down, lol.
You got an interesting ear. I mean, there is a couple of godly pedals in this comparison and you single out the worst one and claim that it’s better than arguably THE BEST overdrive in the world, the dude. Lol.
@@killnoni5032 Yep. Maybe i’m biased for cheap stuff or my ears broke lul but ye. The Dude is crisp and snappy but that’s not exactly what some people are looking for in a Dumble. The Simble sounded the best for sure, and the Taichi was pretty close behind. Simble and Taichi have that nice low mid rumble.
but honestly the difference between most of them is so subtle.
Also to be fair, as much as I dislike Vertex Pedals questionable practices?...their dumble pedal is also excellent and I like it more than The Dude as well.
For true lead however, The Dude might be the best for cutting through the mix
@@1Andelina1 i never said it is bad, it's just obviously much more worse than "the dude" and a few others. Have fun!
Saying one of these is better than another is just crazy, Dumble made every amp individually for its owner so they were all slightly different, just like these pedals.
I'm probably one of the few here who know how right you are, and one of the few to have actually played an Overdrive Special. Alex only made about 300 amps, and I don't even know if he's still building or not. Anyhow, the OS I tried was a 150 watt head and cab at a boutique shop in L.A. in '87. I knew the owner of the shop and was just there hanging out, checking out an LP Standard I was thinking of buying. The owner says, "You know what a Dumble is?" and I say, "some mysterious amp all the big boys are playing." So he said, "stick around, this guy's bringing one. I'm gonna see if he'll sell it. So about a half hour later this guy shows up in a 928 and rolls in a head and cab. He let the owner play through it, and then I plugged the LP into it. It sounded great. I'd describe it as a Deluxe Reverb kind of tone with a lot more volume and a lot more gain. It wasn't a heavy metal amp. That was never Alex's thing. But you could get a great variety of highly controllable, very articulate sounds, and it felt great to play through, a great spongy, biofeedback dynamic. When the shop owner offered ten grand the Dumble owner said, "I'm not selling it. I just wanted you to check it out." He was some rich guy who just loved collecting very expensive gear. He just wanted to show off his toys. After the guy left the owner said to me, "I haven't been able to buy a Dumble yet, because most of the players who own them won't part with them. They are all custom made to very exact specifications." See, when Alex builds an amp, he won't do it for everyone. He has such a reputation he can pick and choose. If Larry Carlton wants one, sure, he builds one for Larry, but if Mick Mars wants one, no such luck. Now, I will say the closest thing to a general Dumble tone is the OS, but no two OS's are the same. It was never a production line thing, but rather a blueprint for one kind of amp he built. For SRV he build a custom Steel String Slinger, which I believe was designed for pedal steel, but became a favorite of SRV and blues players. If someone really wants a Dumble style amp they should look at Two-Rock or Fuchs. Great amps, but yes, they will set you back at least five grand. To me, that's just insanity. I know how to get the best tone for myself for peanuts. I've been playing for almost forty years and know my gear and what I need for my style. I wish more players would do more research and get away from boutique silliness.
Yep. Make a mid focused EQ drive, and one of the 300 Dumbles will be pretty close to it. Wasn't the ODS #1 inspired by a TS-9 he heard live? Nice full mids, tight bottom, upper mid detail and bloom. Compression as you like up to a full squash. Pretty much gets you there.
A buddy of mine owns a Joyo Taichi. I was VERY impressed with it. Still want to save up for the Wamp Euphoria, though.
It’s good for the money well worth it. I haven’t tried the others but it’s the best you can get at it’s price. I think I paid 50 bucks.
Having played a real Dumble recently THE DUDE is spot on!
Jason Kerr I just got one and love it, too.
Lucky You, and me cause I bought the Dude V1 used from a girl who didnt want the Dude anymore, ok....,anywhoo its good to know one real Dumble and Dude have such similarities! (Just looked at a Dumble clone amp and it was still( a head) 3000€s...and it kinda sounded not right for me...)., I call the J Rackett HRM pedal the Dudes kid bro, and I also have the Mojo Hand FX DMBL, which is very close to Wampler Euphoria...., last but not least I use the finnish(im a Finn btw...) Simble first on my board for a darkish jazzy tone with my Yamaha Pacifica 112V neck pup! I was gonna buy the Wampler but I really think my Mojo FX DMBL is as good, with the rock/jazz switch and all and bass and treble knobbies, I probably wouldnt have use for Wamplers open position for i got plenty many OD peds, if I were a rich man I would buy the Wampler Euph in a heartbeat, but I bought a wintercoat instead...warm and fuzzy..., .... the original Dumble amps obviously sound quite different, cause for einstance theres finnish videos comparing the Simble pedal side bye side with an actual amp..., when I play my Yamaha Pacificas 112 V neck pup through the Simble I think mellow jazzy tone, when with J RAD HRM n DUDE n Mojo FX DMBL its more like strat n fusion type approach......go figure... I play trans amps...( its almost uncanny how the DMBL and Wampler sounded exactly the same at a setting, they must have some same components, anywhoo, cheerio, and whatnot, oh yeah, keep playin, its fun! luv, K : )
Kimmo Lingonheimo Wampler makes some great stuff. The two and only drives on my board are The Dude V2, and Wampler Dual Fusion.
I’ve never played a Dumble, but the Dude sounds WAY more like an amp than the other pedals. To me it was a clear winner.
@@BopKitBill Hey there. Yes, I have the Dude V2, and I have had the Zendrive. Sold the zen. The Dude for my taste was way more like the Dumble.
For me it’s the Euphoria. However, the new Vertex SSS-SRV sounds even more like a real Dumble.
By the way, my wife couldn't hear any difference at all over the course of 10 minutes. Suspect that would be true of 95% of audience
If you’re okay with that then more power to you but my personal standard far exceeds subtleties the audience can’t hear.
@@louderthangod Understand. I've spent lots of time and money chasing elusive tone, micro improvements to my ear
@@charleshill9649 Me too. So many hours trying different tubes and different bias points. Different mics and an infinite number of positions. Endless boosts and fuzzes...all worth it even if all I discovered is that there is no single tone I’m looking for.
Agreed big time!
That’s a really important point. It might make more difference in a studio situation, but in a live gig setting, even my band mates couldn’t hear the difference in some pretty significant gear changes. ☮️
I have the Joyo Taichi, it looks good and sounds amazing!! They all sound very similar though...
Thanks good job.cheers
Thank you !
Thanks for this comparison. For my taste, winners were Zendrive, Dude and Moore (surprisingly 😮). Wampler is good (I have one) but not as good to my ears as the first 3. Major losers was MXR and Joyo 😖
Waiting on the world to change!! Keep waiting .. waiting
the mooer really sounds good!.
The Euphoria is much more flexible than the others - the mid is neutral w options to change character. That said, The Dude looks and sounds sick in this demo.
I agree the Dude sounds good...along with the Euphoria and Simble....those three are the most transparent to my ear listening on my studio monitors. The MXR REALLY squishes the tonal range the most out of all of them.
One of the best dumble style pedal, if not the best, is the Cornerstone Gladio (double preamp). Much better than the pedals in this video. Yes, it was expensive but it's a must have pedal. Probably the Gladio will be in the heaven of legendary pedals like the TS, Klon, BB...
I like the Taichi and The Dude. But imma go with Taichi since it's more budget friendly.
Alls, but SIMBLE awesome.
The tone knob on the Zendrive is a cut so all the way clockwise is unity. Anything towards counterclockwise is cutting treble.
All normal treble knobs decrease as they are turned counter clockwise. A cut should "cut" treble as it is turned clockwise not counter clockwise
@@samnewton5959 You are correct. I got it backwards. My bad.
The dude has the best clarity and smooth drive. Doesn't sound nasal-y.
That Rumble Drive sounds REALLY close to the Euphoria, I mean really close!
That's true
thanks can you share witch song are you playing i love it
first lick sounded eerily similar to john mayer's waiting on the world to change, but in a different key
The JRAD - The Dude sounds best to me!
Good job. Thanks for omitting the Vertex pedals! Smart to run it through a bassman since that was an early influence for ODS. Curious how the sound would change for each pedal through a Twin or Deluxe type circuit.
Are the vertex pedals not good?
@@xealzy944 Vertex pedals are amazing, and probably the closest to a real Dumble, (multiple musicians with original Dumbles let them use their amps to voice the pedals as accurately as possible). But a lot of people do not like Mason from Vertex because he copied a Wah pedal years ago and his marketong made it sound like it was his original design. He apologized for the misleading presentation, but people have never forgiven him. However, he works closely with a ton of huge music artists (Cory Wong, Robben Ford, John Scofield, RJ Ronquillo, Tosin Abasi, Rhett Schull, etc) designing their pedal boards, and many of them use his pedals as well. So even if he’s made some poor choices in the past, and people don’t like his marketing, clearly a lot of influential musicians trust his products and expertise. You may not like him, but he knows his stuff.
The Zen was the winner, and the Joyo surprised me. I hated the J. Rockett (weird harshness) and didn't like the Simble (muddy) much. I also like the Rumble Drive more than the MXR. The Wampler was good, but different from the others.
Lol i dont understand why you hated the dude lol. And for DUMBLE style zendrive is too thin. Dont come here if you want something sounding like a freakin transparent drive
Lets' be honest. They all sound pretty similar. I have had a Zendrive for about 15 years which I find is particularly good with a semi hollow. Another "Dumble style" pedal I have is the Vertex Ultraphonix which is slightly more aggressive than the Zendrive and is a worthy contender.
well the zen, mooer, and joyo are all the exact same circuit.
I've got one. Tweaked ODR-1 circuit. Just as sweet. Cleans are meh, but the 2/3 up drive is just so buttery and will honk like it should.
I like the zendrive alone with an amp, but not when I have a board full of pedals. I wonder if any of these have fixed that.
The Dude is head and shoulders above the others IMHO
They're all fender style mild/transparent overdrives on a fender amp. 100% would go for a Dumble-style amp/preamp. Loved the Zendrive though.
Euphoria ftw!
The Mad Professor Simble for me (out of these, but IRL I use a Jetter Jetdrive V2).
... And a Vick Audio Tree of Life, which is 50 % Zendrive
Zendrive & Dude are the best. ❤️
What is that MXR even doing lol.
It sounds like a Tube Screamer in this video.
Being a DS-1 claiming to be a Dumble-style pedal.
I was surprised the Mooer sounded better than the MXR...
I doubt the MXR is a true clone tbh.
Lolll!
Good comparison, but the Frieman Golden Pearl smokes all of these!
The Joyo sounds also good. Less filtered and more open than the Mooer.
I have the Joyo TAICHI and a musician friend has the more expensive Hermida Zen Drive - TBH it's pretty close and we cannot really tell the difference when they are together in a practice situation. Of course he feels better because he spent more :)
I also have the Taichi pedal. Great bang for the buck. I'm overly sensitive to "fizzy" sounding pedals and the Joyo has no annoying fizz.
I have the Zen, The Euphoria, The Dual Fusion, and the Rumble...I only use my J. Rockett The Dude v2!
Euphoria and The Dude are my preferences for totally different reasons. The Simble would be killer for jazz fusion, but not my preference.
The Zendrive is questionable. The led is on the top of the YinYang symbol. You should confirm with the signature on the inside.
Most _musical_ sounding by far _is_ the Zen.
MXR didn't get the memo it seems. Bringing a wooden spoon to a knife fight.
I have the Horse version of the Joyo which is quite good as it sounds here but I'm now wishing it was as good as the Zen. Get what we pay for I suppose.
Why do I hear a Guv'nor pedal going into a Fender amp?
Zen drive, of course
Actually the Cornerstone Gladio SC wins hands down. The best dumble in a box by far.
Zendrive & dude sound the best. And at times they sound similar too
Turn the gain down a little on the Moore and it would be close for the price.
Every pedal I’ve ever heard has been copied, or slightly modified, so even though it was unique originally, you can get lots of similar pedals now. I’ve NEVER heard any pedal that sounds like The Dude. And obviously it makes great sounds! Two questions: How did J Rockett create something unique when no one else can, and why don’t other makes copy it, like they do everything else?
Those are exactly my thoughts on The Dude Overdrive! The best overdrive ever!
The Dude is my personal fave here.
Have the Dude V1. Volume taper is berserk and the footswitch failed in under a year. Kills the signal completely. There's a reason they use a quick connect for replacement switches and a reason the switch is under 20 bucks, but I will let you guess what the reasons are
@@thomassmith5291 that’s too bad. I always thought J Rocket makes good products. I’m surprised your pedal was so disappointing.
@@gregcsefko to be fair, it does sound excellent when it works. This is only one dummy's experience. Probably should just replace the switch and stop complaining.
@@thomassmith5291 I get it man those pedals aren’t cheap. Did you ever contact them about a warranty or if they’d fix it for you?
@@gregcsefko what i did was stupid. I took it to my local tech thinking it's easy enough to swap a footswitch. That's when i discovered the quick connect system. I could have ordered the part and did it myself. I wondered aloud if the existence of a quick connect indicated an awareness that the switches were unreliable. Then the subject changed to the volume pot taper which they sorted out for the v2. I felt like i bought a product that was built quick and dirty with whatever they had laying around. I got so worked up about it i started shopping for a replacement and posted a negative comment on this thread. Eventually i got a reasonable deal on a Shin-juku.
20/20 hindsight- i should have just replaced the damn footswitch. The dude sounds better. When it works.
Euphoria's kick ass
Wampler wins. Nothing surprising. Thay always win in my ears.
If you could filter some of those mids out the Joyo comes damn close.
All pedal has this subtle chimney overdriven tone but......
Euphoria won, listen to that clear rich harmonics
Zen- too subtle-sound little thin
Simble- 3rd/all even tone
The dude- good OD but very muddle back end
Shin-juku- very similar to the dude.
Mooer- 2nd . Well sound. Nice harmonics
Tachi- similar to zen
Zendrive wins 🏆
Yeah, guess Im a Dumble Guy, cause now Ive got: Simble-Joyo Taichi-Euphoria...!!!
Wampler Euphoria for me
ZenDrive sound the best ~
Funny how most Dumble style pedals just sound a lot like tube screamers. Same with Klon style pedals.
Well, zendrive is the original "dumble-in-a-box" pedal, and it's a heavily modified tube screamer, and most other dumble pedals are derivatives of the zendrive, so it makes sense.
@@hchoe741 Zendrive have a complete et totally different sound from a Tube Screamer.
@@jsebsteelguitar like I said, a heavily modified tube screamer
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Klon style pedals have a completely different circuit than Tube Screamers style pedals.
I can’t get my tai chi to sound that creamy
The intro song to the video was very hard to follow
have 4 Simbles, discontinued..... had the DUDE: prefer the film!😎
just bought both Kalamazoo and Zendrive ( Kalamazoo original silver secondhand 100€s, 68 Pedals Inca Kola new 80€s..)😎😎
sold the Zoo for a good neck for one of my Yamahas, somtimes one has to prioritizzee; loving my Simble, waiting for 68 Ped Zen and LYROCK Sweet Tea! ( lately ive been listenong to JHS Moonshine V2, which is half of the Sweet Tea V3 and sounds very Dumbly which is juust GREAT!
( so currently no secondhand pedals do I own, brannew bought evry single one, kinda miss the Kalamazoos Glass control! BUTT I get close with my DOD/Shoe Looking Glass!!😎😎
I like the dude the most here.
Mooer.. and Zendrive
Euphoria and Zendrive
Wampler Euphoria sounded the best, followed by the J. Rockett Dude. I was surprised how Horrible the MXR pedal sounded. Brittle & Fizzy - just a terrible sounding pedal. Nice comparison. All (except MXR) were very usable.
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I've owned the Euphoria, the Joyo, and Rowin and Tomsline copies of the Mooer. The Euphoria's bass was too mushy and fuzzy for my taste and the mids were too scooped. The Rowin and Tomsline were uninspiring, but the Joyo sounded pretty good, however, it was poorly shielded, and became an AM radio when I turned up the gain as much as I like. I now have the Caline Mellow Drive, which I like more than all the others I've owned. In this comparison the Zendrive blew all the others away, with a harmonic richness and magic that the others couldn't match. The Dude, Mooer, and Joyo were close though, while the Simble, and especially the MXR, were really lacking and disappointing, and the Wampler had irritatingly shrill highs
Bass in the Euphoria has to set up be all the way down to be neutral by default….if you increase it like in these video you get so much extra bass and you will get a muddy sound for sure…But before review any pedal I really recommend to watch the original video from the guy who created the pedal(Wampler or any other company)to know about this things….so you can get better and even more great tones from The pedals…
Simble sounds the best
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