New S&W CSX Micro SAO Double Stack 9mm Review
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- Опубліковано 6 січ 2022
- Initial review of the Smith and Wesson CSX with several range highlights that show the speed and accuracy of this new double stack single action from S&W. The CSX performed really well and is feature rich with fully ambidextrous controls including the magazine release, slide lock, and safety. The CSX frame is aluminum with polymer grip panels making the grip texturing on Smith & Wesson's new offering really aggressive on its removable back strap and front strap. It has a steel sights mounted to a stainless steel slide that has front cocking serrations along robust extractor. The trigger system on the CSX is single action only (SAO), but unlike most SAO guns, the CSX has double stack capacity with a 12 round and 10 round magazine being included from S&W. In summary, the CSX a feature rich micro 9mm that maximizes round count in a single action platform, and offers everything a shooter needs for home defense, concealed carry, or just a day at the range.
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So-So Quality at Smith&Wesson has been our experience….. I also do not care for this pistol and it’s features. Except the Steel sites, I like that. I much prefer the S&W Shield Plus overall. That is just me. 🤠🙏🇺🇸👮🏻♂️⭐️
B9USA Sr.
I using my Shield Plus with Streamlight TLR-6 laser / flashlight combo for home defense and using the CSX for CCW with (painted front sight bright orange with nail polish). The smaller size CSX is just more comfortable for IWB. Hurts like hell to be poked in the belly went sitting down when CCW the Shield Plus in a chair or car seat.
@@chrisporter7534 Sounds good to me. :) 🤠👍👮🏻♂️🇺🇸⭐️ B9USA Sr.
I'm waiting for the next generation of this.
Would love to see a decocker
Same, SA/DA with decocker would be awesome
Good initial look. Like your honest style 👍
Great review, you gave info and your opinions. Can't ask for more. Subbed.
Thanks Bear and welcome to the channel man.
Very interesting little gun! 👌 great review!
Thanks Sandoval. I appreciate all of your support.
love the view from down range ! Good review !
Thanks Arch! Welcome to the channel!
I watched one reviewer discover that his 10 round mag was not properly assembled. He disassembled the mag and found that the recoil spring was not attached to the lift plate which had a pin hole for the spring to attach to. After attaching the spring properly, the mag would seat properly with 10 rounds loaded.
The mags on my shield plus are the same way. Fully loaded, stiff as shit to push in.
Appreciate the non bias review too. Refreshing to hear people not kids a companies ass or praise the gun the entire time
8:50 Totally agree. The sleeve adapter is for those longer mags that are shared with shorter-gripped guns. CSX doesn't have a CSX XL (unless S&W is thinking about releasing one), and even P365 uses one-piece extended floor plates on longer mags shared with P365XL. S&W has been making these sleeves on the M&P for a long time, I guess the designer for the CSX is the same guy who designed the M&P, just couldn't jump out of the box and think :)
9:09 It's not just for the states that have mag capacity restrictions, it's also for people who choose to pocket carry. Before the craze of these micro compact with hybrid mags, there were single stacked 9mm's that were either 6+1 or 7+1. 6+1 type guns were much easier to pocket carry. Since a pocket has finite amount of room, it needs to accommodate the gun, the holster, and the hand going into it, then some additional room for the hand to maneuver in there to get the gun out. So for a pocket gun, every single millimeter increase in any dimension, and every single 0.1 oz increase in weight, counts. The heavier the gun the sooner that pocket will wear out and fall apart. That's the reason P365 is very pocket-carry friendly as it's dimensions and dry weight are very comparable to Kahr PM9/CM9, one of the smallest 6+1 back in the days; and why Shield Plus is not so much as it's based on the Shield, a 7+1 gun. CSX is smaller than Shield, not much smaller so for IWB/OWB the difference is negligible, but for pocket it's noticeable :)
The trigger should break-in and get smoother, after about 30 days of dry firing with snap caps.
I hope faster with live fire. Thanks for stopping by!
Also welcome to the channel Rollin!
Looks like you shoot it well and it agrees with you, great review!
Hey what’s up LWR! You’re right, It’s not a bad shooting gun by any means. Thanks man and take care. I actually learned about this gun from your leak video, you’re always pretty early in know about new releases. Thanks for stopping by, and take care man.
@@shootersresourcechannel642 You too! Great to see you thriving, keep up the good work!
Same to you, glad to your channel growing!
The mag spring is in wrong. Great video. I have this pistol. Love it.
Its ambi yes. The question is...what company will be providing csx holsters for lefties?
Firstly, another objective and thorough review.
Many points you raised, excellent considerations to pause for a moment before making the purchase.
The trigger mechanism / reset:
Seen two other reviews that raised the issue if a potential ghost reset due to the pins on the trigger bar?
Magazines are tight sprung, however as in all production industry there is never 100% so I would consider a. Contacting the supplier b. Replacement magazine.
Maybe I missed reference to the recoil?
How was it comparitive to say the shield plus?
Thanks Angus. I thought recoil was very similar to the Shield plus. I did not encounter a ghost reset. I honestly haven’t taken the gun apart to look at the trigger mechanism, but will soon.
Just put 100 rds threw mine, ran great, less snappy and better trigger than the hellcat IMO, dont like the swollen mag issue tho...
Kills me how some don't like or want safeties don't mind it with a single action pistol . Single action pistols need a safety for obvious reasons , but to me ,unless it's a true double action, I want a good safety on my pistols. I have been shooting fir some 40 plus years. When we were growing up ,unless it was a single action revolver or a double action pistol or revolver, guns had safeties and we just never thought about it, it just wasn't an issue. I never heard of anyone getting shot or because they forgot to engage their safety. I like this new single action smith. For self defense, that trigger doesn't bother me. Were I shooting competition, I would want it to be like a good 1911 trigger
I had the same issue with my 10 round magazine. After forcing the tenth round in the only way to get it to seat in the mag well was to have the slide back. I’ll be ordering 12 round mags when they are available and won’t use the 10 rounder. Overall I really like the CSX, in fact it reminds me of my Sig Sauer P938 with a higher round capacity and different trigger.
Agreed MB, it also reminds me of the P938. Thanks for stopping by man.
@@shootersresourcechannel642 by the way Dara Holsters has a holster for the CSX. Mine should be arriving tomorrow. 👍🏾
Factory Ruger LCP II HOLSTER is perfect fit. The soft body holster works like a sticky holster for IWB or Pocket carry especially, if you are bigger dude whom wears loose fitting pants with large front pockets.
Your the second video I have seen that in
A good companion gun if you carry a 2011 like the staccato. But I would wait to see if they will come out with the PC version with maybe a light rail, better trigger and optics ready.
All good upgrades that hopefully they will make. Thanks for stopping by mojoman
What do you think of this gun compared to the Sig Sauer 938 Legion? Which is better?
Picked one up too. My mags feel swollen when loaded and metal scrapes inside - don't want to load or eject. Not sure if it's a defect or expected but shield out of box was smooth with the same actions
My 12 rounder performed flawless but the ten rounder could only take 9rds. Take care Josh and thanks for stopping by.
SWEET TRUCK YOU HAVE!!🇺🇸😊
Thanks!
I hope they gonna add light rail
Yea, I was hoping the trl6 for the shield would fit, but it doesn’t.
I got the csx yesterday and have the same issue with the 10rd mag. Called customer support this morning and was essentially told I was the only person who has this issue (more and more production guns getting reviewed have this issue). Smith and Wesson refused to swap the 10rd for a 12rd that seems to have no issues. It would be great if you called customer service as well and let them know that this is in fact a wide spread issue with their new magazine
I like my CSX so far I payed $539 before tax.. so it was a little bit cheaper than my OSP hellcat.. both are great ccw guns.
That’s a great deal Joseph!
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I encountered the same mag issue with my Sig P365 mags. I used a maglula to load them and as the springs broke in the issue went away. Purely a guess, but I would think this pistol will do the same, since they are about the same size and capacity.
It may for sure…I’m going to take it apart and see what’s going on. Doesn’t make a lot sense the 12 round mag is fine taking all 12 and only about 1/8” longer.
How is the trigger reset? I've seen two other reviews that said it almost has a false reset. Like there's a really faint in volume, light reset before the true reset that is a lot louder and more tactile.
Did you find that yours was like this too before you broke it in? It didn't seem like it in your review.
Mine was a short 1/8” reset, it’s pretty good. It doesn’t spring forward with as much authority as I would like
I have the shield plus performance center with custom slide cut for a Holosun green dot. I am debating if I will sell my shield M2.0 40 for the CSX. Problem is my shield 2.0 .40 had the Crimson trace green laser + light combo, apex trigger and trijicon night sights. I’d lose a lot selling it plus it is such a sweet piece.
I wouldn’t trade your upgrade 2.0, you’re right, you’ll loose money.. be patient and save up for the CSX…
They or others might release something new you want more while your saving :) highly likely in today’s market
I'm sure you already know this, but the problem with the Mag is the follower is not attached to the spring.
On a tight loaded mag like that lock back the slide and the mag will go in---usually...
They should of made a double action with a hammer drop safety that would of been more interesting
Disassemble and riassemble , please?
Great review. I wish they would have came out with a DASA trigger ... Or like the bodyguard 380 double action only. that would have been nice. Since everybody is trying to buy for concealed carry these days I would have expected at least a double action trigger if not a double single action trigger
Hey bud, what year make and model is your truck? Thanks
It’s a 2017 F150 3.5 eco boost. I bought it used 1.5 years ago with all of the upgrades, 4” lift, aftermarket rims, tires, dual exhaust, grill, and lights…saved a lot of money that way… take care Robert and welcome to the channel!
7:30 If you put the smaller backstrap on, you will see that it doesn't cover the sides like the bigger one does. And the area now exposed on the sides are just as smooth as those areas exposed all the time. That means for people who run with smaller backstrap, both sides of the grip will be completely devoid of any texture. I think S&W would be much better off if they took the Colt Mustang/SIG P938 or 238 type of guns, and upgrade the magazine to the hybrid design of the current trend of micro compacts. Making the grip looks like M&P, complete set of ambi controls (so you have to find a tool to field strip), and the false reset in a single action trigger, totally ruined this pistol and missed a great opportunity for a unique spot in the growing pool of micro compacts, which they had already missed their first opportunity with the Shield Plus :)
Need one in .40
This gun ran great with me....i just cant get 10th round in smaller mag....as hard as i tride to get it..... cant load 10th round
SA
So the carry condition is loaded, locked and cocked.....like a 1911. But no grip safety. agree?
That’s correct B Johnson, it’s also how I shot in the video. They added a trigger safety in place of the grip safety.
Bring back the 5906! Make a modern Double/single action gun with decocker and no mag disconnect. I’ll pass on this one. Too many problems and I have a 1911.
Only thing if they used the shield plus mags it’ll be bigger.
Good point Supermike. Take care man.
@@shootersresourcechannel642 after seeing how small this is I bet they’ll make a smaller striker fired at some point.
@@mike34744 I’d like to see a DA/SA with decocker as well
Also thanks for all of the algorithm support via commenting on the Mike. It really helps, have a great weekend!
Recall coming soon…
Its not going to have a 1911 trigger unless they duplicated it and it has a trigger safety. I will take a grip safety over a trigger safety any day if its necessary. I don't want anything on a trigger. The only reason for a trigger safety or grip safety is to make the hammer when cocked to be drop safe but with the manual safety engaged its not necessary. Like you said, the only reason to have a SA hammer trigger is to get that clean breaking trigger for accurate longer shots. Something striker triggers can't do.
Want
They give a cardboard box? Damn that's a step backwards.
A lot of folks are going that route these days. Thanks for stopping by Phu Vet.
Hardly fair to say it's much like a staccato. Very misleading. Then you say it's got a 6 pound trigger. Looks like a candidate for the safe and nothing I would carry. Definitely won't be buying one.
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment Bert. You’re right that its no Staccato in terms of performance/quality. I have a few videos and some experience with the Staccato. This is my initial impression video so it’s less pointed and recorded in one quick session. Hear me out:
I think the CSX has quite a few things in common with the Staccato or 2011 series. I think if it had a lighter trigger more people would draw that conclusion and perhaps like it better. It’s a single action w/ thumb manual with a short trigger pull/reset, the trigger even looks similar to a 1911 style though it is hinging. The gun is comprised of a steel slide with a combination of aluminum and polymer frame that accepts double stack magazines. I like that it doesn’t have a grip safety, and that they made it a lot narrower than the staccato series.. it shoot really well, if Apex or the aftermarket improve the trigger, it’ll go from good to great in terms of carry pistols.. I’m not pushing you to buy it now, maybe S&W will make a 2.0 fixing some of the quirks.
Take care Bert. Thanks for watching!
Thanks SRC. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
Thanks for stopping by and for all of the support award.
350 yes 600 nope hammer fired with a goofy Tigger I'll have get a new trigger from apex sad .
Please keep in mind that first releases are not custom pistols. All mechanical things will improve with use. Get over it and quit expecting perfection out of the box. Get real. Perfection costs. Pick your poison before you complain.
Thanks stopping by Dean. I test and shoot a lot of pistols within all price ranges and quality levels. I share my honest opinion every time, and I can only base it on my experiences. These are my opinions which often doesn’t align with other’s and that’s ok. Ultimately, I really like this gun, and will keep it. As a previous engineer and gun reviewer, I believe S&W could have improved a few things with it without increasing the cost. They nailed the Shield Plus, it’s my favorite micro compact. Take care Dean, enjoy your weekend.
Smack instead of tap
Nah, I'm good thanks.
Shit trigger all the way. Wow wtf are those pins sticking out from the sides of trigger and getting caught in the frame interefering with reset
Big time flaw!
Agreed, this trigger should be 4 pounds.
Thanks for stopping by Rick. I hope someone comes out with an aftermarket and it will take this gun for pretty good to great. Take care man.
"Solid performer" is not a review. Every gun video should say how many rounds, and take the time to same how many FTF's, and how many FTE's. Not... "Solid performer"
given the wear on the slide you didnt buy this gun you got it as a sample to review. please just dont lie to start. next a carry pistol stock from sw is never going to be as good as a aftermarket trigger or a sw special order. 5 to 6 pound trigger is just fine for a every day caryy. 4 pounds is honestly you being a poor reviewer blending edc and competition small form factor. next your drifting off target is user issues not pistol issues. honestly when someone reviews its tough as hell to remove your personal feeling but you did a horrible job here.
John, I appreciate you watching the video and sharing your opinions. Remember that you know nothing about me or how I acquired this gun. The wear you are referring to likely only appears that way due to lighting minus one spot where the aluminum is exposed on the frame from using the wrong holster. I have the gun right in front of me, the finish is fine. Things like ideal trigger weight are only opinions and you are correct any misses are almost always on the shooter…I shoot a different gun almost every week, I’ve never received one from a manufacturer, though I’ve tried and will once my channel grows, and I share my honest opinion of them on UA-cam… you can choose whether to believe it or not…take care John
@@shootersresourcechannel642 wear like that comes from a long time coming out of holster. Please don't
The "S&W CSX Micro SAO double stack 9mm" - *_What is the World!!_* Gun Industry nice try but NO. This one is a loser but I know you will keep trying.
One step forward, two steps backward = S&W Micro CSX SAO.
I carry a SIG p365, I'm wondering why Smith went to the 1911 after so much success with the shield my brother has a shield EZ 9 mm great gun easy to shoot and with all the success of the shield why would they go with an exposed hammer and the sights are terrible painted white dots interested to see how well it does.