The CSX 9mm - Smith & Wesson Fools Us!
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Special Projects Editor Roy Huntington takes a First Look at the NEW Smith & Wesson CSX. Nobody was expecting an aluminum-framed carry gun from S&W but we welcome the return of metal.
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The CSX has been my EDC ever since it came out. The features on this gun sold it and they are still why I will continue carrying it.
This guy is as relaxed as they come. Great presentation. Thank you.
Thanks Paul. I’ve been called much worse than relaxed. Roy
I bought this gun yesterday to use as an every day carry gun. I brought it home, cleaned it and shot 50 rounds through it. It performed flawlessly! I am not a handgun expert, so I’m happy to hear your positive review, it looks like I made a good purchase. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Hi Jim. I’ve been shooting my test gun quite a bit and so far, not a single issue. It’s really growning on me too! Roy H.
Same here, love mine
I'm looking for a new carry gun and this is on my list. Since you've had this for a long time now, how has your long term use been?
Despite most of the reviews panning this pistol when it was released, I bought one. The biggest issue most reviewers had was the "false" reset that one experiences when not letting the trigger out completely, I think the reviewers who had this issue failed to acknowledge that this pistol isn't a race gun, it's a pocket EDC gun. This gun is going to be used in a self-defense situation where gross motor skills will rule and you don't try to finesse or stage the reset. It works just fine in that situation.
Agreed Mike. It also shows too many of the online “influencers” just don’t have the background knowledge needed to really know guns. I’ve not had any issues with mine, from the get-go. And as you say, I always make sure to completely allow any trigger to return to battery before pressing again. Glad you’re enjoying that cool little gun! Roy
That was a well-thought-out and well-made video. Appreciate your insight on what manufacturers are thinking. Thanks! Really interested in this gun, now.
I like your moniker M1! My favorite rifle. That reminds me … I need to do a Garand video for sure! Roy H.
Good video. I bought my csx last year. I carry it every day. Love it!
I bought this gun bout a month ago and love it. To me seems and feel like a 1911.
I agree on the 1911 feel and it was very easy to get used to the gun. It’s really been growing on me! Roy H.
Do you have any issues with the trigger safety not resetting?
Had mine a couple months. Really like everything about it. Every nice shooter with features that make it a nice carry firearm
Another great look "Mr."American Handgunner,!!
Returned to watch this again. Handled one some months ago, and I can appreciate its small size. Similar footprint to the J frames I enjoy so much. Planning to buy one in the next couple weeks.
I think you’ll like it John. It’s like a smaller, more rounded Officer’s ACP and frankly, I think it feels better. Roy
I love mine! So comfortable to carry…and shoots great!!
That jazz at the end was wonderful! More of that please!
Not sure what that was. The video editor chooses it. I’m guessing it’s royalty free music from some place. Roy
Just bought this gun today - your review was helpful and validating! Thanks!
Excellent Tina! Make sure you let the trigger re-set after each shot. Some of the “testers” ride the trigger forward and don’t allow it to completely re-set, then they complain about a “gun problem” when it’s really a shooter issue! I’ve not had a single issue with mine, but I let my finger come completely off the trigger at each shot. Roy
I saw one in my local gun store today. After watching this video I wish I'd have asked to take a look at it. The Sig 365 is my current EDC, but I'm intrigued by this particular pistol.
4:01 that's a trippy shot. The seam between the angles is flawless
Nice review I went and bought one and absolutely love it...... Lot lighter to carry than my p229
Really nice video. I like that you pointed out how those of us with hand strength issues may still consider the CSX. I also prefer all metal handguns and this gun reminds me of my
S&W 3913 in some ways.
Thanks for your kind words. I’ve grown to really like this model. It sorta’ has all the features of a 1911 but more ergonomic and certainly pocket-friendly if you have big pockets! Roy
This will be my next purchase, can't wait to get my hands on one.
I have this as one my edc depending on the situation. I really like this gun and it's been 100% reliable. Got it right when it came out.
Love mine! Thanks Roy!
You’re welcome you guys! Roy
Great review! I want one.
Thanks for sharing your review!
I continue to enjoy this gun Steve. Thanks for commenting. Roy
Good HD video. Thanks
Greetings from Reno, Nevada. I enjoyed the personality of this reviewer. I’m anxiously awaiting the Smith & Wesson ‘Auto Magazine Reloader’.
Appreciate you taking the time to comment Nevada. Roy
I always love your reviews, and this one is no exception! Seems like a great gun I'm a big fan of hammer fired non-polymer guns. I'd love to see more manufacturers offer them...but they are not as budget friendly.
Thanks for your kind words, Mark. I think most makers tend to cater to what the “masses” want (polymer, striker-fired guns at certain price-points) and I admire S&W for daring to step outside the line on this. I think there is room for some custom work like action smoothing, sights and who knows what on this gun! Roy H.
Any hammer fired guns are welcome in my book. Waiting for a -500$ pistol that is hammer and takes glock mags.
Thanks sir and not one word about the trigger being crap just picked mine up I love it thanks for sharing and I don't have a problem with the trigger works ok for me just the other demonstrators I guess
Les, I sure haven’t had any trigger issues. I think people may be riding the trigger to the re-set point (like many do on a 1911) but I’ve always found to let your finger actually come off the trigger, then re-press assures a re-set. If you watch me shooting you can see (in some footage) my finger comes completely off the trigger at the return, then I press again. Even when shooting faster. Rob Leatham calls it “slapping” but really you’re still pressing. He’s just so damn fast it looks like slapping! Roy H.
@@fmgpubs that's how I do it too most of the other reviewers end up saying my 1911 don't do that thanks Roy have a great weekend
Excellent video great gun
...great quality video...thanks....
You’re welcome Rick. Thanks for letting us know! Roy
Good shooting Roy! That invitation to come check out the Joplin Rifle and Pistol Club still stands.
One of these days, I promise! Roy H.
I'm liking that pistol. trit sights and I'm sold. No rails or optic cuts is also a plus.
Andy, your comments are spot-on. Not everyone likes, needs or wants a rail or an optic cut. Roy H.
Solid review buddy!
Thanks Kyle. I’m really liking this gun the more I shoot it! Also, Bill Laughridge of the Cylinder and Slide shop has one he’s customizing. I’ll be writing it up when I borrow it when he’s done. Roy
Best concealed carry gun i have ever owned. Reliable, capacity, accuracy, easily picked up sights, double safety to carry cocked n locked. 300 rounds and trigger has smoothed out, easy to field strip with 3/16 punch. Cant say enough good.
I think they’re real sleepers. Some early internet “testers” said they had trigger issues. I watched a couple of the videos and they were riding the trigger back, not allowing it to re-set completely at times. That was a user-induced issue, not a gun issue. My fingers comes off the trigger after each shot on any autopistol. It’s easy to get used to that and doesn’t affect accuracy at all since you still control the final press. Roy
If you watch my videos and look at my trigger finger in any of them, especially the slow motion bits, you’ll see it comes all the way off. Try it. Roy Again
Its been my work/run tobthe store carry since its inception. I love it. Also Im a lefty so yeah.
I bought this for off duty. I have yet to shoot it. Everything that I had read on it seems pretty positive. I hope it lives up to my expectations.
I think you’ll like it. Clean and lube it prior to shooting it the first time. Keep a very firm firing grip too and allow the trigger to completely reset. I’ve shot mine some more and it’s really growing on me! Roy H.
If this is a single stack, I assume that there is a transdimensional portal in the grip somewhere that allows you to carry the 3 to 5 more rounds than a single stack in this size can carry.
I just looked at one of these yesterday, and it is definitely a double stack.
It’s not.
@@jsin22366322 it is, t p938 is single stack. 😊
It's not. Shot it myself. It's double stack
I think he meant single action...and came out "stack"...😂😂😂
@DANTHETUBEMAN I own both...csx is 100% double stacked
Hello and thank you for the nice video. There are a lot of negative reviews about this firearm. Basically the reset on the trigger. Myself, I was brought up with a 1911, Colt, Series 80 in a .45 and I LOVE it. I am used to an external thumb SAFETY. I LIKE the fact and am USED to the fact and idea of manually putting a firearm on safe. I also LOVE the single action. I hope to purchase one VERY soon. I was also brought up NOT learning how to keep your finger on the trigger and utilizing the reset. So I am fairly sure I will get along with this pistol. Thank you again for the video! Take care... Steve in Colorado
Steve, I think the trigger re-set “problem” isn’t a problem. I think it’s just what you say, people riding the trigger forward waiting for the re-set, but preventing it in actuality. It’s not a 1911 action so doesn’t respond like one. I let my finger come completely off the trigger on autos (other than a tuned 1911), to allow a full re-set. I’ve had zero issues with this gun so far and have several hundred rounds through my test gun at this point. I really like it! Roy H.
@@fmgpubs Thank you very much for your response! I would have to agree. I purchased a CSX last weekend and can't wait to get to the range. I will keep you updated on my results. Take care and thanks again. Steve in Colorado
Very nice groupings, mag dump was excellent 👌🏼
Very kind of you to say, Texas! Roy
Just bought a CSX and I really like this gun. Only complaint is needing a drift punch to remove the slide lock to field strip
like your style. Good job
Thanks Adrian. We’re just all shooters here so it feels like I’m talking to friends. Because I am! Roy
CSX as Chief's Special Xperimental is the kind of thoughtful insight that makes you one of my favorite writers for Guns and AH. I mean, they did have a last gasp with the CS9 and CS45.
Hey Doug, very kind of you to post your note. We’ll keep it up here! Roy
I bought one and love it. Shoots well and accurately. Traded my M&P Shield for it with no regrets!
Guees what brother they just made the m&p 2.0 in a metal frame they showed it on their fb page this week
I shot the csx & the shield plus and I thought I'd like the shield plus better but I actually ended up shooting better with the csc because since it's all metal the csx has an aluminum frame it ate all the recoil and the shield is plastic frame it was a lot more snappier but it has more capacity
I've been carrying this since the week it came out. I love it. You do have to move the front sight a little bit to the left. It seems that the measurement used to press the front sights at the factory is out of wack by a little bit.
Their sight alignment has always been a hit or miss as I have several models. I always double check everything before purchasing, it’s an easy thing to overlook.
New to guns. Guy at dealer said you can't adjust sights. Seemed odd to me. You can adj them huh? Thanks
@@SimplifiedTruth once you buy it, take it to gun smith. 15 dolls later it will be perfectly adjusted and you will hit bulls eyes. Best gun ever
Forgot to say ,Great video
Nice review.
I love mine! Had a hiccup with a defective part early on but Smith and Wesson replaced the slide under warranty and I have now put over 1000 rounds through with zero issues. Well balanced, accurate at surprisingly long range, and easy to conceal. I know some guys moan about the trigger but after putting some rounds through, the “false reset” is not noticeable at all.
Agreed Andrew. I think that false reset is actually people riding the trigger forward and not allowing it to re-set. My fingers comes completely off the trigger when I shoot a semi-auto. With just a bit of training, it’s easy to learn and solves that issue regardless of the gun. The 1911 is user-friendly when it comes to riding the trigger to re-set, but not most others. Roy
You are very good at what you do.
Thanks Bill. You’re very kind to say that. But I’m old and have been doing this for a long time so I’d like to take credit, but it may just be experience! Roy
It would be great to see a head-to-head between this and a 1911 9mm officer's model.
What a great idea, Mark. I still have the CSX and a 9mm Officers. I’ll do it! Roy H.
neat little ccw pistol.
in my opinion your first group for accuracy was high left b/c you were anticipating recoil.
that's why on your rapid fire group you were more centered b/c you were focusing on getting hits on target rather than anticipating recoil.
i'd get more comfortable with shooting it rather than go adjusting your sights yet.
fun review.
It's possibly he adjusted his aim after the first group, too. First group was possibly just to see how well it grouped. I know that's what I do when I try out a new gun. See how well it groups and where those groups are going. I'm a good enough shooter to adjust my aim to compensate for a sight that is a little off.
could also be the fact he stepped 10 yards closer.
It reminds me a lot of the Sig Sauer 238 handgun!
I saw and held one at Academy yesterday. I shoot, now, a .380 EZ (arthritis in thumbs and wrist), but I can't get this CSX out of my head. It is way more comfortable to hold, and, with my small hands and short trigger reach, unlike the EZ, it doesn't force me to awkwardly cant the pistol against the base of my thumb to get my trigger crease where it needs to be. And it very naturally aligns in my grip so that the three-dot sights are pointed and equally separated just right for trigger pull without hand to grip adjustment. I really have enjoyed the exceptional reliability of my EZ, but I think I'm going to have to switch.
....I kept seeing them in gun magazines and I couldn't get it out of my head or stop looking at them. I bought one....
Enjoyed the review. To the point, with zero self-hyperbole...unlike 99% of the other "Tubers" on here.
Well, that’s great to hear from you. I too get tired of the hype and arm waving on youtube. Oh .. and the “Oh my god” faces … Roy
Finally a positive review!!!!
Thanks Jimmy. The vast majority of guns today are “good” guns. Some just need a bit of a learning curve to understand them and assure they work correctly. Plus, at times, a brand new design might have a bit of teething issues with some of the production (ours all ran great) so patience is often the best course as makers sort things out if needed. Roy H.
for a little single action hammer fired gun it seems to run well
Smith Wesson made a pistol called The Chief’s Special 9. Which was an automatic in 9 mm. Not the chief special revolver.
Maybe the CSX stands for Chief’s Special 10.
You nailed it
Or it runs like a CSX train?
....I've really been puzzled what the letters CSX mean or stand for...can't find the exact answer....
The original Chief Special was a snub nose revolver.
I bought one last week.....then had to go buy another the next day. Because she liked it and id knew I would lose it 😅. Plus they basically gave them to me. A local big box farm store had them single for 549. Or the one with the plano 5 pistol box, ear pro, eye pro and the bore cleaner for 379.99 then on top,of that they had 15 percent off of their clearance guns so it took another 50 some off as well. I love the little guy. Nice review , glad I found ya and I will like and subscribe
A screaming deal for sure! Thanks for subscribing. Nose around our channel I have hundreds of videos and we also have lots more from others Roy
Cool.
Good review. Glad you didn't jump on the false reset bandwagon some others have been gasping about.
I found if you just allow the trigger to reset completely, there's never an issue. You can't treat it like a 4 pound 1911 trigger. I let my finger come off the trigger on each shot. Easy. I agree there's no issue! Roy
I love the feel of the csx over the shield plus for micro compact 9mm so much so that I traded mine in after a year and a half (only lost 100 bucks). It’s like a bodyguard 380 on steroids and I can use the same size uncle mike’s 15 iwb holster. Very concealable and well made. Takedown requires some finesse, but it’s a solid option.
Your Bodyguard on sterioid is a perfect analogy, Mike. I’ve sure been liking this one the more I shoot it. I think it’s a real sleeper. Roy H.
My edc, I love it
I just found the CRX, as I am looking for a off duty 9mm. And my favorite Sheriff is going to cover all the info. on it. Thanks Sheriff.
I think you’ll really like this one if you haven’t gotten it yet. Accurate, easy to shoot, carries well, what’s not to like! Roy
I've shot this at the range twice and so far I love it and would definitely consider buying one. The only real negative that I noticed last time I tried it was that the 12-round magazine wouldn't load past the 9th round or so even with an UpLula loader. Is that very common with this gun?
I read on Hickok45 review of this gun in the comments, that the spring may be installed backwards in the mag. Take it out, swap it around and it works fine. You'll have to sort through the comments there to read it exactly, but that's what I believe was the issue.
Double stack 1st 2 were singled and the rest are offset called a double
Love this man and his mustache
Very kind of you to say! Roy
I would like to see the CSX in 30 Super Carry. Great review.
It’d be perfect for that, Pat. I’ll “remind” ‘em! Roy
My edc is a S&W M&P shield 45acp perfect for any fit tight loose etc….. I have no idea why I want the CSX but it seems like a badass little gun to have 😂
It’s addictive … it’s like an Officer’s ACP but I think it’s more comfortable and certainly easier to carry. Mine has been running fine. I think the complaints you hear about trigger re-set is due to the fact so many people tend to ride the trigger forward, not allowing it to re-set. Roy
Roy, you know I enjoy andappreciate your videos! The “inter-webs” are going on and on about a “false” reset, with this design. Obviously, you didn’t experience that. As you continue working with this gun, can you see if you can induce that situation- even on purpose? Regarding the “false reset “, I would argue it is a training problem vs. gun design problem. But I am interested in your experience going forward with the CSX (Chief’s Special Xtreme?), maybe a follow up video in a couple months?!
Rob, I swear, some people aren’t happy unless they find a fault, real or imagined. I’ve got quite a bit of shooting with this gun done now and nary an issue. I agree I think it’s operator error. Training on a single platform all the time often means people don’t transition well to others. I’ll let you if anything comes up though. Ayoob liked his so much he bought it, and he hates to spend any money! Roy H.
@@fmgpubs Thanks for the quick reply. I totally agree with your sentiment that people love to find faults, real or otherwise. I think a part of the success of the FMG’s products are the seasoned shooters who have a wide range of experience with different platforms. And that is why us readers (and now viewers) keep coming back. Now, I want to find one of those CSX to hold!!
I just picked one up and it does not have a false reset.
It has a trigger pull around 4.5 pounds and breaks clean.
I really like this pistol!
I fondled one in my LGS when they were first introduced. It had never been fired, trigger pull was over 9lbs (measured by the salesman with me), and it had a pronounced audible and tactile click when releasing the trigger, but that did not reset the trigger. You had to fully disengage your finger from the trigger to reset the trigger. Maybe this has been fixed...especially if one of you has a 4.5lb pull on a non-modified trigger...the one I handled was terrible. Again, this one was never fired maybe 1 month after release.
I assumed that CSX stood for Chief Special 10 (shot.) That looks like a nice gun, Roy. Good shooting.
Thanks Frank! I’ve shot it quite a bit more since this vid and I remain impressed with it. No trigger issues either. I think that’s because I tend to come off the trigger during re-set, allowing it to re-set correctly before I press again. Roy
Nice stache, bro!
I have one and I like it. My new carry gun.
I really like the design too. Roy
I like what I see I’ve wanted one but I don’t see them often.
I looked at one of those decided not to buy it because I still have a S&W 3914 which I really like! Great video.
I always thought those 3914s were a sort of “perfect” gun in their own way. But I confess this new CSX is pretty darn cool too! Roy
@@fmgpubs I agree. My 3914 works well in a shoulder rig and I bet the CSX would too!
The CSX is a DOUBLE Stack not single.
Yeah … I was so focused on it being single action it just came out! Roy
I bought one of these, luckily the only one in my entire area in stock, and I've just enjoyed it.
People complain about the false reset but it's really not that bad, there is a faint click and then a normal reset. That's not something that ever caused me any issues.
How do you feel about it after a year? Not seeing much anymore about them.
Agreed on the re-set. I think people are riding the trigger forward and not allowing a complete re-set. They are inducing the problem. Note when I shoot an auto, my finger actually comes off the trigger face after each shot to assure they re-set. Mine’s been running 100 percent. Roy
I love mine
I agree it is a nice gun. My only issue at this point is when there is 6 more than rounds in either of the magazines, it will not eject properly. The magazines do eject but doesn't slide out. You have to actually pull it out of the gun. Any pointers for these issues?
I’ve not had that happen with mine. Frankly, I like a magazine that stays so you don’t batter it by allowing it to drop on the ground. If you push the mag release and hold it down, will the magazine come all the way out then? I’m thinking the pressue of the mag release cross pin may be interfering. Let me know. Roy
This is very interesting!
I started with a Shield, then picked up a Shield Plus (my daily CG). Both easily hit a 16" square gong out to 85yds. If the CSX has that kind of accuracy and consistency I may have to consider getting one!
This one is accurate and reliable and if you like that platform (single action, etc.) it's an interesting alternative to a small 1911. Roy
I want one 😍
I've been searching for a replacement for my LCP II, which is a headache to rack. This video has pushed the Chief's Special Xperimental to the front of the line.
Also check out the S&W EZ 380 and Ruger’s new Security 380. They have a light rack slide and are a joy to handle and shoot. Roy
That’s my new EDC.
I have one. I'll get another when it comes out in 30 Super Carry.
It’d be a perfect platform for that cartridge! Roy
I wonder if the added weight may help with the failures due to wrist limping
Benji, it’s not that much heavier. The way to stop limp-wristing issues is to stop limp-wristing! Just hold onto ‘em hard and lock that wrist. It solves all sorts of issues. Roy H.
I've seen people outrun the trigger reset seems like that might be an issue for self defense
Despite the press getting "special" examples, the gun DOES have several issues, including the trigger. The field strip is made harder than it should be. Add a little more to the pin and it'll work better. my example is wildly inaccurate.
It's not my style, but I like seeing different options on the market.
I looked at one but the trigger reset issue bothered me. Going to go with the SIG 365.
Solid choice! Several on our team are big fans of the P365.
I want one. ❤
I can not believe you are a professional . That is a double stack mag. Wow!
I know …. I know … I was thinking about the single action trigger, then lost my mind …. Roy
My gf bought the csx about a month ago. The only complaint I have about shooting it is the fact you have to complete release the trigger before firing the next round. (Stupid trigger safety) hopefully you will be able to upgrade the trigger group in the near future. Other than the blunder I did enjoy your review and it is awesome that you replied promptly and earnestly. For that sir I comend you.
My pleasure sir. I tend to get my finger completely off triggers whenever I shoot, and have never had any issues with re-set problems like many seem to. I think people who ride the trigger forward hopling to just catch the re-set, then press again, often run into trouble. Many testers of this gun had that issue, but blamed it on the gun. Enjoy that fun gun! Roy@@loringtillson1187
I like this gun. Will buy it in near future. I like hammer fired pistols.
Looks like a Diamondback arms DB9 with safeties.
Hopefully without the breaking parts and kabooms!
CSX that's a Railroad gun. and it's on my short list!
I think this was maybe intended as an update to the old S&W CS9?
It’s a pretty different design, but it does fill that slot too. Roy
Nice mustache, cool gun.
Is it a single stack? I thought it was a double stack or that 1.5 stack that micro compacts are running. I feel if you place 10 rounds of ammunition in a row, it would be much taller than the CSX
It’s a double stack, kinda. I had the fact it was single action on my mind and it sort of slipped out! Roy
Looks like a great gun. Garrett thinks a lot of you.
Hey Mark, thanks for taking the time to say hi. Garrett is a swell fellow! Roy H.
Hey,is the slide as easy like the m&p ez 9mm? Thanks Danny
Not quite that easy, but it runs with little effort and the gripping tabs help. Roy
PLEASE, PLEASE, PUHLEASE show us videos on how you updated your other weapons with the flat, 1911-style triggers!!! I would (and will) replace ALL OF MINE with 1911-style triggers, if it isn't crazy complicated or expensive. Oh, and by the way, the AWESOME-IST mustache on UA-cam.
Thanks for your kind comments on my mustache. It does seem to sometimes have more followers than I have! On the 1911 triggers, you can get drop-in flat faced triggers for 1911s from many sources like Brownells, Midway, etc. Apex makes flat-faced triggers for some autos like Rugers, SIGs, Springfields, etc. Does that help or did I misunderstand your question? Roy
I want one, but not a pocket gun. I'd love a full size. Personally
I carried the hellcat until my son bought me the CSX for Christmas last year. And the CSX out performs the hellcat in every way. Hands down!!!
Glad to hear that Bill. I think it’s a swell gun. Roy
Looks like a cross between a 1911 Officers ACP and the Smith 39-14.
That’s a pretty good take on it. Look at the heritage it comes from and you might be a “bit” right there! Roy H.
Might be my perfect gun if it was da/sa and had a decocker/hammerblock safety
Get a cheetah berreta then lol
20oz unloaded for the CSX is 5oz HEAVIER than a FULLY LOADED 13 shot Ruger LCP Max.
@@anthonyarcher7268 I'm comparing a 1.5 stack pocket pistol in 9x17mm to a 1.5 stack pocket pistol in 9x19mm. Seems like a perfectly valid comparison to me.
That said, if you know where I can get paid to do so, please let me know so I can sign up!
@@anthonyarcher7268 Bah. Well I'll have to keep building my channel the hard way to get monetized then. With time and effort, lol. So UA-cam can turn aound and demonotize me. Only 894 subscribers to go.
What’s the comparison to the max-9 9x19 tho cause those are closer to the same size tbh
@@Kiffyyy thats a polymer gun bro thats the difference except the max comes with fiber sights and 12 round magazine
life card is the lightest one but doesn’t kill hummingbird