Monster hunter World: Lance VS Gunlance

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  • @WidgeonTV
    @WidgeonTV  6 років тому +352

    Lance has turned into one of my favorite weapons after making this video. What two weapons should face off next?

    • @electricboxers9043
      @electricboxers9043 6 років тому +18

      How about Dual Blades against Insect Glaive? Both are attack-focused weapons with no defensive options and high mobility

    • @savagexinstinctx313
      @savagexinstinctx313 6 років тому +39

      Charge blade vs switch axe.
      Bow vs lbg/hbg

    • @VVabsa
      @VVabsa 6 років тому +3

      Switchaxe vs Longsword? Yea pretty weird setup but both have '2' modes? All ranged weapons comparison would be awesome too. Though I would like to see a weapon vs SnS, I just don't know with what weapon it can be compared best with....

    • @roythehunter9271
      @roythehunter9271 6 років тому

      Widgeon TV Switch axe and great sword xD

    • @roythehunter9271
      @roythehunter9271 6 років тому

      SSS-Rank Savage Charge will win

  • @LordBummingtonThe3rd
    @LordBummingtonThe3rd 5 років тому +281

    >Reviews gunlance
    >Barely mentions shelling

    • @jasongibson1225
      @jasongibson1225 4 роки тому +43

      Yeah, that really REALLY bugged the hell out of me.
      Don't get me wrong, I love the Lance, but the gunlance has shelling damage which is an x-factor in of itself with its ignorance of weak spots. If he threw the full burst into the dps comparison, it would have beat the lance even more. If he shelled, the GL would have won the range competition. I was like tf when he said the Lance wins on range....ummm....no, try shelling.

    • @adin3559
      @adin3559 4 роки тому +15

      Of course he didn't mention shelling because he tried to eliminate as many variables as possible and even if he did mention shelling what would he compare it to with the Lance

    • @samshiel7192
      @samshiel7192 3 роки тому +6

      He has to compare factors that could benefit the two, which is the normal.attacks. gunlance has shelling whilst Lance doesn't, which he can't compare the two since it would be unfair for Lance.

    • @magosexploratoradeon6409
      @magosexploratoradeon6409 2 роки тому +3

      @@samshiel7192 That would make it inaccurate if that's the case, full burst is integral for the Normal type gunlance's dps while shelling for wide and long due to the damage regardless of monster part.

    • @pedromaurutto
      @pedromaurutto Рік тому

      He didn't take shells into account in the reach category also. Long shelling would probably win.

  • @Paikerchu13
    @Paikerchu13 5 років тому +126

    You have to use the... “gun” part of the gunlance

  • @gregoryvanderlyn6230
    @gregoryvanderlyn6230 6 років тому +1122

    Which lance is better? *8 minutes later* idk man you choose

    • @zupinu2000
      @zupinu2000 5 років тому +30

      LMFAO!

    • @jakinbandw
      @jakinbandw 5 років тому +92

      Uses a tier 4 gunlance vrs a tier 3 lance. Concludes the tier 4 lance does more damage.
      I am completely shocked by this outcome.

    • @dropbear9560
      @dropbear9560 5 років тому +22

      @@jakinbandw he explained his reasoning though. Which i thought was fair

    • @user-xn3sw9sr9r
      @user-xn3sw9sr9r 5 років тому +31

      But his reasoning didn't make sense, yes they are the same attack power, however they are only the same JUST because of their tier, there was no reason that makes logical sense. There is not ever a situation where there will be a lance and a gun lance that both do the same exact damage in the same tier, so this whole video is pretty trivial. If you have the hard bone lance II vs the bone cannon II however, then the lance would perform better in the opening potential, making it a superior weapon. But even still, I don't think you should decide your weapon based of stats.

    • @jacobmock6118
      @jacobmock6118 5 років тому +6

      It's all about that fashion game.

  • @ML1800
    @ML1800 6 років тому +101

    me and my friend combo with a lance + gunlance and it's amazing. "YOU SHAL NOT PASS!"

    • @Josh-py9rq
      @Josh-py9rq 9 місяців тому +2

      lol that is just mean leave those poor monsters alone!

    • @Noobprokermit
      @Noobprokermit 6 місяців тому +1

      That’s cold as hell

  • @fredfredburger8D
    @fredfredburger8D 6 років тому +370

    I'll take the boomstick over the stick.

  • @sickingc
    @sickingc 6 років тому +263

    ....cant really compare the two without at least using the shelling combo, it is the whole point of the GL

    • @nuzuk
      @nuzuk 6 років тому +8

      Chris Sickinger not to mention using a higher level gun lance

    • @FlameSoulis
      @FlameSoulis 5 років тому +1

      Actually.... that's interesting to think about: does the shelling get effected by the bloat factor? Do each type of shell have their own bloat factor?

    • @robertbuckley8550
      @robertbuckley8550 5 років тому +10

      @@FlameSoulis shell dmg is separate from weapon dmg. It is determined by the shelling lvl of the gunlance. Shells do fixed explosive dmg regardless of where you hit with them. Hope that answered your question satisfactorily

    • @hiddinsmile
      @hiddinsmile 5 років тому +3

      Gunlance shelling types aren't all the same. For example normal type gun lances are great at the shelling combo but not so great at charged shelling like long type gun lances. If you were to compare shelling to a lance then you would need to factor in the lances ability to sustain itself in a head on fight. Personally I don't think those two things (shelling combo vs sustained and consistent damage) are comparable. If they were comparable it wouldn't get the bigger picture imo.

    • @ONW4V3R
      @ONW4V3R 5 років тому +2

      @@hiddinsmile You can totally count reload time in a dps metter lmao. Damage Per Second is a metter used for a reason, if one weapon hit 1 time every 10s and one every 1s just do it for 20s each and look at the damages / time of each, regardless of the time it actually was hitting.
      If not the GS would be the worst weapon in the game since it's the slowest

  • @vader8684
    @vader8684 4 роки тому +8

    Gunlance make you feel like you're in a Michael Bay movie

  • @blckkSnOw
    @blckkSnOw 6 років тому +61

    for me
    lance: defense
    Gunlance:offense

    • @lunarkomet
      @lunarkomet 3 роки тому +5

      You must be the smart one of the family

    • @TacticalGlizzy
      @TacticalGlizzy 3 роки тому

      I think of it more like
      Lance: Aggressive Tank
      Gunlance: Traditional Tank

    • @foxshoot3138
      @foxshoot3138 2 роки тому

      Defense lance, defense my house gunlance

  • @feircy
    @feircy 6 років тому +417

    Not that useful considering gunlance has different shell types and levels which affect the damage per shot and the dps of different shelling styles.

    • @ZephWraen
      @ZephWraen 6 років тому +21

      And don't "Long" type gunlances have similar reach to normal lances? Maybe still not quite as long, but much closer.

    • @feircy
      @feircy 6 років тому +16

      Aerosh well the long type is the shelling type, it's best for charged shelling and wyvern fire. Gunlance has comparable range on most attacks to lance though

    • @anhc8905
      @anhc8905 6 років тому +4

      Royal Burst is the best GL

    • @feircy
      @feircy 6 років тому +14

      Lost Soul royal burst is the best normal type, and the best for the full burst style*

    • @an_ordinary_goose
      @an_ordinary_goose 6 років тому +5

      It seems it's turned around for long and wide type gunlances in world - wide has powerful individual shells, stronger wyvern's fire and wyrmstake, while long is the charged shelling gunlance with standard wyfire and wyrmstake

  • @richardhansford6184
    @richardhansford6184 6 років тому +150

    I'm more of a fan of the gunlance due to the extra offensive capability of the weapon and shelling ignoring defense to help break parts

    • @auronkardek
      @auronkardek 5 років тому +3

      While you'll deal the same damage on every parts, be careful with rank. Shelling in low rank is more effective than shelling in high rank (with differents weapons of course). Dunno about Iceborne but I remember shelling was really useless in MHFU's G-Rank. That's why GL is low tier in G-Rank and why you don't see many speedruns with it...

    • @LR-jb6zn
      @LR-jb6zn 5 років тому +1

      @@auronkardek just hope they make shell lv 5 6 7 in iceborne,
      or at least lv 5 artilery.

    • @sirrowland3397
      @sirrowland3397 Рік тому

      @@LR-jb6zn they did i think

  • @Kratos510e
    @Kratos510e 6 років тому +19

    I tried getting into the Gunlance, but I just can't get over how the recovery after every attack is slow, making it difficult to block incoming attacks after a combo. Lance on the other hand I can be extremely aggressive and react to an attack with the counter then get back to poking. Still playing with the Gunlance, hopefully it will grow on me.

    • @sadlife8495
      @sadlife8495 2 роки тому +1

      did it after 3 years?

    • @mrbubbles7893
      @mrbubbles7893 2 роки тому

      lance is for boys gunlance is for man

  • @revegnas4895
    @revegnas4895 6 років тому +11

    Conclusion: A team of both weapons would be incredible.

  • @undeadking6955
    @undeadking6955 3 роки тому +11

    I've been using the gunlance a lot and I truly enjoy it but I started using the Lance and countering the monster makes it feel like you're a total badass epically when it KO's the moster it's beautiful

  • @KatrinaAmaxas
    @KatrinaAmaxas 6 років тому +291

    Imma have to go with Lance. As cool as the Gunlance is despite it's wide array of explosive, sharpness-eating moves, I prefer the simplicity of just poking something to death. Plus, Charging at full speed with the Lance is one of the funnest things in the entire game right next to Hammer Spinning and successfully pulling off a Foresight Slash.

    • @kaogao87
      @kaogao87 6 років тому +32

      Poking something to death... Lol

    • @hamana9842
      @hamana9842 6 років тому +3

      Agreed

    • @bigfoxki
      @bigfoxki 6 років тому +15

      Lancer all the way, just poke a Tempered Nergigante in solo to death without any dying. Now I just need some shield jewel.

    • @KatrinaAmaxas
      @KatrinaAmaxas 6 років тому +8

      I need shield jewels too. Even though you don;t need Guard past level 3, the overkill potential is hilarious XD

    • @bigfoxki
      @bigfoxki 6 років тому +2

      Ironwall and Shield jewels... I have non, I am already 23X HR, also waiting for the mindeye.
      Once I get them, I can finally throw those ugly Uragaan armor away and get some armor for higher attack.

  • @levskiii1849
    @levskiii1849 6 років тому +11

    I am a lance player, but I discovered the gunlance a while ago for myself. As a lance-main I can say, that the lance is a very good weapon for beginners or for someone who want to play safe. The counter attack of the lance can be made after each hit, so its possible to counter monster attacks that surprise you while you are making your attack combos (even when its only ramming the lance into the monster i call it a combo :D).
    The gunlance is a very good weapon for players who already can read monster attacks and behaviour, because its a weapon that is very slow to take back and if you are making a combo, you have no protection when the monster suddenly attacks you. Its also very effective to break hard parts of monsters (like the horns of diablos and nergigante) because of the explosive attacks of the gunlance.
    Finally I can say: lance for more safety, gunlance for more damage (through hard monster parts). At the end you can play the weapon that is more fun to play for you guys =)

  • @czaro8006
    @czaro8006 6 років тому +196

    Normal shelling gunlance with slam burst combo can outdamage lance easily. When it comes to reach, it loses in melee but what about charged long shelling. It has a really long reach and can be shot vertically and horizontally.

    • @whitevii1533
      @whitevii1533 6 років тому +15

      The Gunlance outdamages the Lance in the same way the hare is faster than the tortoise.

    • @czaro8006
      @czaro8006 6 років тому +2

      if all you do with gunlance is poke then regular one is propably better :P

    • @an_ordinary_goose
      @an_ordinary_goose 6 років тому +5

      If you're more focused on poking, lance is much better for guard oriented styles - damage wise, gunlance can hit heavier and doesn't fall as hard when attacks bounce since shelling damage remains unaffected by the area you fire at

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero 6 років тому +10

      The Lance has many very fast speedrunning times. The biggest advantage it has is that it's the most offensive weapon in the game and that you can attack monsters constantly with next to no downtime if you're good enough. Other weapons need ideal situations and good RNG to get good times. But the Lance is just pure skill, it doesn't leave anything to lady luck anr allows for a consistent performance no matter where you fight.

    • @ariesvalliant760
      @ariesvalliant760 6 років тому +11

      thenonexistinghero no weapons need lady luck when your skill full with them

  • @dreadkingrathalos9213
    @dreadkingrathalos9213 5 років тому +16

    Lol why am i watching this when i use a greatsword

    • @imgood3374
      @imgood3374 3 місяці тому

      you still using greatsword?
      my ass is watching this as a charge blade user at 3 AM

    • @rickybrm
      @rickybrm 23 дні тому

      same here

  • @DukeBrown5356
    @DukeBrown5356 6 років тому

    Sick breakdown! I appreciate you doing the homework for us.

  • @nyleo04
    @nyleo04 6 років тому +26

    I've really been loving both of these weapons this past week and both are extremely offensive. Lance can stick to enemies like glue without ever having to sheath, making the "lower" damage it does higher since you never take a break. The gun lance lacks some movement options the lance has so sometimes you do have to sheath, but the ridiculous damage you can do more than makes up for that. IMO both have their shining points and monsters they're better with. Both are amazing.

  • @darielsantos8795
    @darielsantos8795 6 років тому +156

    LBG vs HBG

    • @projectroflcopter2614
      @projectroflcopter2614 6 років тому +6

      in my expirience LBG is better than HBG when going in solo

    • @marcoleung7253
      @marcoleung7253 6 років тому +5

      Its so obvious...
      Lbg fires more rapidly and u can walk faster when using lbg
      Hbg fires slowly and u walk even more slowly, but hbg can fire more stronger ammo.(like wyvern and cluster)

    • @thotwalk5776
      @thotwalk5776 6 років тому +10

      HBG>LBG every day. Even when soloing. Learn to evade 🤷🏾‍♂️
      If you are trying to walk with the HBG, ur not doing it right. That’s like trying to walk with the GS unsheathed 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @KommissarBanx
      @KommissarBanx 6 років тому +5

      Thot Walk HBG has always been my shit. That long roll is fucking amazing

    • @goldenboy9748
      @goldenboy9748 6 років тому +2

      Light bowgun doesn’t count as a weapon it’s shit.

  • @Alrekr666
    @Alrekr666 6 років тому +94

    I don't think the some of the criteria you used to compare both weapons are fair. Why make an analisys of the draw attack if neither of those weapons use it much? It's also hard to compare both because of the different type of shelling. One can say lance has a better vertical moveset than most of gunlances because of the vertical poke bein superior to gunlance's vertical poke behind the shield, but you can use something like Zorah's GL and deal 100 blast damage upwards by (R2+ triangle) -> charged shell. Each type of shelling is a sub-weapon class of it's own.
    And about the guarding capabilites, I would like to add that lance's guarding capabilities much better because you can easily cancel the trust attacks recovery animation into the counter move (R2 + Circle). With gunlance you can only cancel the recovery animation of the trusts into a leap. Not by blocking unfortunately.
    Edit: Grammar

    • @Turbogremlingaming
      @Turbogremlingaming 6 років тому +1

      Realistically, in terms of draw attack, I think it's fair. You can't always short-hop your way to a monster, and God knows you won't walk it out. On the other points, I can mostly agree though.

    • @EbonMaster
      @EbonMaster 6 років тому +5

      Well thats less of a factor for lance. The rush attack is great at closing distances and you can opt to either guard cancel out of it or attack when you finally close the gap. I very rarely have to sheathe my weapon when playing lance.

    • @realityjester3325
      @realityjester3325 6 років тому

      Gunlance main here, I use the draw attack all the time.

    • @SethAbercromby
      @SethAbercromby 6 років тому +1

      Gunlace uses the charging scoop a lot. It's a great gap-closer for short distances and it allows you to transition into a slide on slopes, couple that with the fact that you can immediately transition into a downwards slam and it's pretty much essential for your damage loop. It's the arguably most universal move in the Gunalance's kit.

    • @Bassario
      @Bassario 5 років тому

      Yes. It was such a randomly subjective and mostly arbitrary list. Poor guy is working hard to keep viewers by appearing neutral.

  • @TheBlackSage7
    @TheBlackSage7 6 років тому +10

    I like and use both weapons but I happen to prefer the lance due to you having more uptime to attack monsters because of being able to quickly switch from defense to offense.

  • @sparklespider1356
    @sparklespider1356 6 років тому +1

    Awesome video! What about looking at the heavy bowgun and the light bowgun? I love the heavy bowgun and it would be great to see how similar the weapons are

  • @HavikRPG
    @HavikRPG 6 років тому +29

    *I'M STICKING WITH THE MICHEAL BAY WEAPON!*

  • @Goldcohen22
    @Goldcohen22 6 років тому +3

    One thing that I really love with the lance is that it is extremely easy to jump and do mounting damage when you are doing the sprinting move

  • @Aitenass
    @Aitenass 5 років тому +3

    I was wondering about your combo choice for the "opening damage" category. With the Gunlance, after the quick reload, you can directly go into the slam attack. It shortens the loop, but allows to go into the harder hitting moves quicker. It's also great for Burst builds based on Normal shelling.
    Edit: I also disagree with the long reload procedure for the Burst loop. After unloading the shells, you can go into the sweep attack, a quick reload, and start over. This does eat through sharpness very fast, however, so you'll need to break the loop every few repetitions to sharpen.

  • @unowngamer9352
    @unowngamer9352 6 років тому

    Stupid question but whats the outro song? I know it's from MHW but I don't remember where it played.

  • @AxeDaddyGaming
    @AxeDaddyGaming 6 років тому +2

    Man, you consistently put out solid work. Keep it up!

  • @TheMK930
    @TheMK930 6 років тому +1

    Thx for the video! I think it is very informative to people who are new to these two type of weapons. However, I think you can include more discussions about play styles and combos. Lance allows you to continuously dish out damage, while Gunlance allows you to deal burst damage in short amount of time. There are many different factors that could affect a Gunlance's damage output. That being said, I think you could do an in-depth discussion about Gunlance shelling types and play style (Just like what you did with the damage boost and defense boost items.) As a veteran of both weapons (Lance and Gunlance,) I am more than happy to tell you more about the machanics of the two weapons.

  • @Kyndral22
    @Kyndral22 6 років тому

    with the reach comparison, why isnt the shells from the gunlance mentioned? Or is is the exact same range to shoot as it is to stab with the gunlance? Even so, doesnt charging the shell make a bigger hitbox?

  • @MrVelyx
    @MrVelyx 4 роки тому

    exactley what i was Looking for. thank you

  • @bear24908
    @bear24908 6 років тому

    Thank you ! Sooooo deep analysis :))

  • @ByztinBadger
    @ByztinBadger 6 років тому +101

    By pointy weapons I would say the gun lance is more of shooty stick with a stabber slapped on the end

    • @Knights_of_the_Nine
      @Knights_of_the_Nine 6 років тому

      Gunlance has more damage potential when you’re not hitting weak points. Shelling non weak points is a great utility, and I believe shelling has greater breaking potential overall.

    • @williamcannon8380
      @williamcannon8380 6 років тому +2

      R3d Ro0k 37 so it's a gun lance lol

    • @pyrocyro733
      @pyrocyro733 4 роки тому

      like him with bayonet

  • @AllTheOthers
    @AllTheOthers 5 років тому

    What song do you use for outro?

  • @susiron1449
    @susiron1449 6 років тому +5

    Nice video, but it's difficult to compare the gunlance to lance since the main dps from the gunlance is...well...the gun. There are a lot of combos that drastically change depending on the type of shells. Also, it is poss I'll ble to do the burst with the gunlance and reload mid combo and refresh it. It would have taken more time, but obviously more damage that also ignores armor

  • @KenpachiBeast
    @KenpachiBeast 5 років тому +1

    You did not compare "part breaking" abilities of the 2 weapons... I think that's important information cause that's why I want to start using against soloing behemoth and getting parts for armour. Which is better for breaking parts? is the gunlance aimable? or is it just shot in a direction?

  • @Saffrone221
    @Saffrone221 5 років тому +5

    When it comes to killing a monster in an earlier time frame “ gunlance”
    For support and continues momentum “ lance”

  • @crestfallensunbro6001
    @crestfallensunbro6001 6 років тому +5

    I thought long shelling would have been taken into account for the reach...

  • @thelordofcow5639
    @thelordofcow5639 6 років тому +1

    How much range does the gunlance get off of shellings?

  • @Shiningforceking
    @Shiningforceking 6 років тому

    For the reach test, it seems you used the overhead poke with the Glance but the normal poke with the lance, do they have the same reach?

  • @persona2551
    @persona2551 6 років тому

    Great video hunter

  • @MrLuiswalker
    @MrLuiswalker 6 років тому +46

    You didn’t mention the lance charging jump attack. Knocking down a monster from a mount is a nice bonus

    • @noka9871
      @noka9871 6 років тому +6

      Walker Rodriguez he also didn't mention that gunlance has even bigger potential for dps if you use burst, WS, and WB

    • @mwfcod0932
      @mwfcod0932 6 років тому

      Ashley Fogell is a different attacks which lance cant do so is pretty pointless. :) he went through the same type of attacks..but ur point is anyways 😉

    • @deviantari2686
      @deviantari2686 6 років тому +1

      I think the point is that he chose not to mention the attacks that aren't too comparable, because any weapon CAN get a mount, but for the gunlance is just not realistic to try lol but he did let me down by not even trying to compare their xfactors at all ;-;

    • @HowlingDoom
      @HowlingDoom 6 років тому

      Ashley Fogell GL only has better Burst DPS than Lance but overall Lance has higher DPS.

    • @papicenturion4659
      @papicenturion4659 6 років тому +1

      ImpendingGhost not if u use the gun lace right. If u stap and shoot in a loop it beats the lance in sustained dps.

  • @Edsabre
    @Edsabre 2 роки тому

    I've been playing with the Lance lately and it's just so damn fun to use the charge move to chase down a limping monster and c-c-c-combo it right in the ass. Gunlance does look fun as hell, though, so I'm gonna try it next after I feel like I've mastered the lance. Good video!

  • @Jeikobu
    @Jeikobu 6 років тому +16

    I think while the full guard is properly compared in the defense portion, the counter guard would more be an 'X-factor' in which case we also need to consider the Shells and Wyrmstake as other X-factors in the case of the gunlance. These two give as said a counter attack, and some super high burst damage. Including the quick reload combo reset, you could quite easily slip in a burst fire (depending on the gunlance shelling type as that determines ammo which subsequently is the power of burst fire).

    • @freddybigs10
      @freddybigs10 6 років тому +1

      Jeikobu The Lance's X-Factor can also be used to mount monsters which opens them up for damage of successful. I don't use Gunlances so I don't quite understand what you said about it but I think I'm going to give them a try.

    • @freddybigs10
      @freddybigs10 6 років тому

      Jeikobu The Lance's X-Factor can also be used to mount monsters which opens them up for damage of successful. I don't use Gunlances so I don't quite understand what you said about it but I think I'm going to give them a try.

    • @Jeikobu
      @Jeikobu 6 років тому +1

      Any form of melee damage while actively in the air can mount, but it’s not what the gunlance is good at. Gunlance has 3 types of shells. Normal, which is weakest but has by far the most ammo, which burst fire which empties the whole clip is strongest. Wide is the strongest, but shoots like a shotgun, it’s the best and normal shelling, but it looses out in the added up damage of burst fire as it only has 2 shots. The final is long which has the longest range, makes it typically better at charged shelling, but it only has 3 shots.
      Anyway the quick reload will reload the shells, but not the stake. Another thing to remember is the wyrmfire which is a long charge up for big damage and a long cooldown, good when a monster is down or asleep.
      One final thing, all shelling attacks are unblockable, which means they will always do max damage regardless of where on a monster you hit. As I said in my first post, all the shelling and stake should be included in its x-factor, which this video only mentioned in general dps, when they are purely for burst potential, and considering quick reload is one of the most common resets for gunlance, It’s not like you would be without ammo for those attacks often.

  • @pnkssbtz
    @pnkssbtz 6 років тому

    What gear are you wearing in the last 15 seconds of the video?

  • @bobbybob5231
    @bobbybob5231 5 років тому +1

    Whats the name of the song in the opening?

  • @mackstertube
    @mackstertube 6 років тому

    Also the sprinting/ charging attack is extremely useful for chasing monsters which can save a lot of time and in some cases stop you failing 15 minute quests.

  • @tenbutts
    @tenbutts 6 років тому

    Had no idea there was such a range difference. Thank you.

  • @thelordofcow5639
    @thelordofcow5639 6 років тому +4

    Charge blade vs sword and shield. Mostly the sword and shield part of the charge blade because i kinda want to know if the shield is better, range, and damage comparisons

    • @Z4ifir
      @Z4ifir 5 років тому

      A little bit late, but i can answer a bit if it is still relevant. The cb's shield is better, as it is like the lance if it is charged, which should always be the case.if you guardpoint it is even stronger, compareable to a lance with a few guard up levels. I guess sns is better for damage, as cb without axe usage misses the most damaging moves, and the swordcharge isnt that awesome. I dont now about range but sns also hits faster.

  • @superlazycasualgamer
    @superlazycasualgamer 6 років тому

    Nice video, im a noob just played for 2 weeks. Currently im using long sword but planning to pick up other weapon. Can u make video comparison long sword vs switch axe? I think both of them quite similar, from range, uses gauge, no guard

  • @Schwifter_
    @Schwifter_ 5 років тому +3

    With the lance you can mount any monster by doing the charge move then jumping and attacking.

  • @BatalionHunter
    @BatalionHunter 6 років тому

    and here i thought that the lances x factor was it that dealt both weapon damage types or have they changed it?
    cause as far as I remember lances used to deal both slashing and impact damage depending upon which one was better that allowed lances to not only cut parts but build up concussion or shatter parts

  • @seantaylor1568
    @seantaylor1568 5 років тому

    How you gonna get the dps of the normal swing combo with GL when you're not doing it right? After the quick reload, you skip rising slash and go straight into downward as it does far more damage. The whole point of the combo is for the wide swing for it's huge damage and wide sweep. Also you can't really compare damage with these weapons as shelling is the main feature of GL and is super complicated.

  • @lordtirek236
    @lordtirek236 6 років тому

    Not sure if anyone asked this, but why was the reach of the gl not taken into consideration with the shell distance? I mean, won’t that make its reach more potential?

  • @zigcod84
    @zigcod84 6 років тому +3

    Love all your other videos but I'm sorry to say this overlooking a major part of a weapon is not comparing two weapons properly might want to do this video again and add the shell types for the gun Lance

  • @TheCompleteMental
    @TheCompleteMental 6 років тому +2

    The downside of the gunlance is that half your screen will be filled with 'part broken'

  • @quillelderwood6009
    @quillelderwood6009 6 років тому

    Hey can you so one on the Heavy or light bow gun and the Bow. I think heavy bow gun would be better because it seems like no one actually uses it, but that is up to you.

  • @stevanmeisoll6627
    @stevanmeisoll6627 6 років тому

    I'm confused are you saying that burst fire rotations are lower dps than just smacking a monster?

  • @Coconeeeet
    @Coconeeeet 6 років тому

    About the guard there is also the fact that lance can guard during the combo by pressing back or left or right + triangle. Which make it so much more safe to play than GL. You can follow that back/side step block by a shield bash with triangle which can stun or a lance attack with circle to start your combo.

  • @tomfist6337
    @tomfist6337 6 років тому +1

    I'm NEVER too bored to finish.

  • @sestosili3760
    @sestosili3760 6 років тому +6

    I like both but for me the lance is just a realistic classic medieval weapon

    • @Soladrin
      @Soladrin 6 років тому +2

      Sesto Sili but medieval lances were exclusively used by cavalry. You would never use them like this. Thats what spears and piked were for. :p

  • @mr.martian586
    @mr.martian586 6 років тому

    This is a great vid

  • @Fixwec
    @Fixwec 5 років тому

    I'm just getting into mhw and, I have only ever played one other mwh on 3ds and I dident get very far so all this content is interesting

  • @AWr00tBearII
    @AWr00tBearII 6 років тому

    I hope you make a follow up video that more accurately portrays the Gunlance and it’s 3 types.
    Maybe compare the Charge Blade vs Gunlance since they both can use Artillery.

  • @kookovoon9632
    @kookovoon9632 6 років тому

    Another thing about the lance is that you can do a jumping attack during the charge that will let you mount a monster even if you were on the same plane. I find it's a great opener to a fight.

  • @MG7I
    @MG7I 5 років тому

    You can also add that u can do mount damage from the dash attack if u jump. Which is super good tbh

  • @maku577
    @maku577 6 років тому +2

    Lance and Gunlance might seem similar because of their looks, but the core gameplay is completely different. While Lance does sustain dmg via constant poking and the ability to tank and counter attacks, the gunlance does most of it's dmg with shelling bursts, it relies more on getting good openings to get it's dmg in with big shelling combos while lance is more constant dps. So while they look similar their core gameplay is totally different so they can't really be compared.
    Still a nice video idea and while I hate MHWorld content just clickbaits “Best ___ set!“ or “Best attacks with x weapon“ your type MHWorld content is really informative and enjoyable, keep up the good work!

  • @crusaddy982
    @crusaddy982 5 років тому

    4:40
    The Gunlance loop actually uses full burst after overhead slam and the damage there varries significantly between GL's but full burst is the 2nd hardest hitting move in the GL's moveset(next to big ekkusplosion). Since you can use quick reload after wide sweep and imidiatly do an overhead slam after that the time becomes shorter and the damage significantly higher

  • @zelsha
    @zelsha 6 років тому

    you can use the lance's charge to possition yourself,but also to mount monster if you jump and hit the target during a charge

  • @Shenaniganwhat
    @Shenaniganwhat 6 років тому +3

    Lance is kinda more fun for mounting some monsters with the charge. Gunlance does way more damage with looping burst fire combo and actually KO's monsters pretty well if you can stick the wyvern stake. So either mount the monster or knock them the hell out.

  • @Taintsnicely5434
    @Taintsnicely5434 6 років тому

    Could you compare the light and heavy bow-gun

  • @reefa2931
    @reefa2931 6 років тому +60

    I think the lance is overall better. The reach combined with the guard makes it an aggressive weapon, with very consistent dps. Its (rather surprising) mobility and charge also help with sustaining damage or being more evasive.
    The lance is, imo, the ultimate no-nonsense weapon in this game. There aren't flashy explosions or spins or twirls or flips:
    You just have a big ass shield that can block 95% of the attacks in the game (the full 100 with Guard Up), so you don't have to worry about dying any time soon (and unless they've fought a tempered Jho recently, any lance main worth his salt would struggle to remember the last time they fainted).
    You have a long stick that simply pokes and pokes until whatever you're poking is dead (however long this takes depends solely on the lance you pick for that monster, as well as what part you're poking).
    You have a long reach, which can be used to hit precise points on a monster (dealing either impact and cutting, depending on what does more damage), so tall or flying monsters aren't too big a deal.
    You have a simple but quick hop that can be used for re-positioning or evading if you want it that way.
    You have a charge which can chase down monsters, faster than a sprint, whilst being safe behind a shield too.
    You have an easy to abuse mounting attack.
    You have a counter attack to avoid damage, chain attacks and keep up the dps.
    You have an ultimate shield which provides that extra layer of protection, whilst giving you more options to attack after countering.
    It's just the most consistent weapon in the game. I always say, if you've hit a wall and there's a monster that keeps beating you, learn lance. If you already play lance and the monster is still beating you, learn lance better. You'll kill it in no time.

    • @HowlingDoom
      @HowlingDoom 6 років тому +7

      Wellington This right here explains exactly the true greatness of Lance. High survivability, with good mobility and decent DPS. IMO GL while being able to deal more damage feels more like a defensive lance do to the less aggressive options you have and overall less mobilty and easy to lose sharpness along with less DPS than lance

    • @Porkobosso
      @Porkobosso 6 років тому +2

      agree. I loved the tempered Jho fight with lance though.

    • @justvince3039
      @justvince3039 6 років тому +1

      had a hard time killing teostra as a LS main when the game started. Now, teo is my bitch because of the lance.😂

    • @toastcrunch9387
      @toastcrunch9387 6 років тому +2

      ImpendingGhost it doesnt have less dps than lance. Shelling combos are brutal, and often completely compensate for sharpness in the long run. Sure you have to sharpen more often, but it seems like a tiny cost in comparasion.

    • @astralninja7685
      @astralninja7685 6 років тому

      I don't think you have mentioned Evade Lance! the coolest ways to play the wep.

  • @9thmaggot
    @9thmaggot 6 років тому +81

    Lance's Xfactor is funnier.

    • @matthewsmith1779
      @matthewsmith1779 6 років тому

      Neve
      MUCH

    • @erikthewolfson9192
      @erikthewolfson9192 6 років тому

      Well from my POV the gunlance have a fun move set, but i apreciate all the weapons so... XD

    • @Jlezy
      @Jlezy 6 років тому +3

      but gunlances xfactor is more satisfying

  • @kaizerkoala
    @kaizerkoala 6 років тому +9

    Overall, it's more of a play-style. Lance do lower but more consistence damage while Gunlance need you to be extra patience and capitalize on all opening.

  • @min_nari
    @min_nari 5 років тому +1

    you missed one thing:other than insect glaive, Lance is the only weapon can mount a monster all by the player alone without a ledge.

  • @mou7037
    @mou7037 5 років тому

    Can you compare switch axe and charge blade

  • @drewmac9270
    @drewmac9270 6 років тому +3

    I love both... But charging down a Nerg when he's retreating and just racking up those crits is.... nice.

  • @UltimateDudeGuy
    @UltimateDudeGuy 5 років тому

    why would you use a higher tier?

  • @jacobwright536
    @jacobwright536 5 років тому

    So far, just due to circumstances, I've been replaying the main story on different characters and systems, and every time I've been changing my main weapon, my last run was yesterday and I used the Lance for the first time, and I blasted through the main story. I really love the Lance, but after seeing this video I'm going to do a gun Lance run and compare the two

  • @Magress117
    @Magress117 5 років тому +2

    I know im late but...
    NON-STOP
    RAPID-FIRE
    PENETRATING
    ACTION

    • @solerosable
      @solerosable 4 роки тому

      Jocat has entered the chat

  • @Roll2Play.
    @Roll2Play. 5 років тому

    Can you do Switch axe vs Charge blade video

  • @gigachad9016
    @gigachad9016 6 років тому

    A pokey stick, or a pokey stick that fuckin explodes. Your choice.

  • @WhildChamp_74432
    @WhildChamp_74432 2 роки тому

    it will depend on if you want more attack with long reach or a little decrease in range but with a gun on a Lance.

  • @jultud29940
    @jultud29940 6 років тому +5

    I'm a GL lover ever since I tried it back in MH4U :^)
    The main thing that makes me prefer GL over Lance is that GL is way more offensive with the same guard as the Lance. The counter and the perfect block are nice but the simple guard with Guard boost lv3 is just enough for me.
    And the fact that GL have 3 different types of cannon makes it even more interesting. This aspect of the weapon isn't as good in this MH because there isn't much variety in the cannon type. For instance, want to play Normal GL --> Go Pink Rathian royal burst, there isn't a better one. Want to play frag ones ? Jyuratodus is my favorite (and probably one of the strongest) but it has water element :-/

    • @ryokoshii
      @ryokoshii 5 років тому

      water element only matters for the pokes, doesnt effect shelling and there isnt much resistant to water, there are a few monsters that are weak, waters fine

    • @kaein2973
      @kaein2973 5 років тому +1

      Actually the counter is the thing that makes the lance more aggressive then any other weapon.
      You can counter guard mid combo and it's fairly quick so you have more time to damage while a gun lance have to stop their attack and guard first.

    • @magosexploratoradeon6409
      @magosexploratoradeon6409 2 роки тому

      @@kaein2973 in my experience you only guard if you're out of position, if you are you will barely guard but instead hop.

  • @mantism.d.8363
    @mantism.d.8363 6 років тому +2

    "A non-offensive weapon"...TRIGGERED

  • @ThatHippyDuck
    @ThatHippyDuck 6 років тому +2

    "basically become invincible" during super guard.
    Lol.
    Try that out during a huge attack...

  • @Vinqent
    @Vinqent 5 років тому

    Not only you do effect status from your weapons faster by charging monsters, but with LANCE you can mount them. Sleep/Paralysis and Mount is strong combo.

  • @Milenos
    @Milenos 6 років тому

    What about the overhead attack of the gunlance?

  • @mou7037
    @mou7037 5 років тому

    Can you compare long sword and sword n shield

  • @Kealmir
    @Kealmir 5 років тому

    I feel like not mentioning the jump attack out of charge with Lance is a huge oversight. As someone who has mained Lance in MHW for over 1300 hours, a huge part of my play style especially in group play is getting those mounts at the start of a hunt. if you are aiming for it, this weapon is one of the best weapons in the game for getting mounts. It's also worth mentioning the Lance is more mobile then the GL with it's ability to Guard Advance, simply triple hop forward into Guard Advance and finish with lunge if need be. Guard Advance can also be used to guard while jumping down ledges which is very useful in Elder's Recess.

  • @littlelw319
    @littlelw319 5 років тому

    idk if there's anyone mention about how you measure weapon's reach , but do you know that Gunlance's poke behind the shield is kind of upward thrust(am i call it correctly tho?) hence the distance between gunlance and the target pole is way more significant. if you were to combine a thrust then make sure it s the same kind of thrust i.e. just compare vertical poke , or upward poke reaches.
    P.s. i'm not saying that normally GL without shelling has the exact same reach as Lance because i don't know.

  • @zegreatpumpkinani9161
    @zegreatpumpkinani9161 6 років тому

    How can you compare the Gunlance to anything WITHOUT MENTIONING SHELLING?

  • @Skullcomments
    @Skullcomments 6 років тому

    With the gun Lance blocking and attacking leads to an upwards strike and it may or may not lose range from that since with the Lance blocking and attacking leads to an straight jab

  • @ikefredregill6754
    @ikefredregill6754 6 років тому

    Great video.

  • @JoshDrakePendora
    @JoshDrakePendora 6 років тому +1

    Both are amazing, honestly I think it's just personal preference, I've used lance longer but I love to use gunlance as well

  • @korb9689
    @korb9689 6 років тому

    are all of these gonna end with a draw?

  • @zacharymabb4873
    @zacharymabb4873 6 років тому

    Switch axe vs charge blade?

  • @malignedloon1603
    @malignedloon1603 6 років тому

    correct me if I'm wrong, but it kinda looks like you did 2 different kinds of attacks on the first test... the "guard > attack" poke of the Gunlance is slanted upwards (an upward poke), while the "guard > attack" of the Lance is horizontal poke... so of course the Lance's reach would be longer, if you used two poles of the same length to reach something, the most horizontal one will reach it first... is there no other similar attacks that you can use to compare?
    btw, I don't play MHW, but I've played MHFU and MH4U

  • @welshspartan725
    @welshspartan725 6 років тому

    What wasn't mentioned was with lance you can go from a charge to an arial very easily and you have the option of 2 very powerful attacks when you go into invincible mode 👍🏼