WHY TYLER OAKLEY'S CHANNEL DIED
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2018
- After my 'why zoella's channel died' and 'why alfie deyes' channel died video' today we take at a look at another youtuber who has dropped off, Tyler Oakley. Tyler Oakley is someone that has been on the platform for a very time, not really been exposed for too much and has done videos with creators you know like Jenna Marbles and Zoella, so why is he losing 20,000 subs a month?
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POLITICS: I was a bit nervous in some of the reasons i spoke about in this due to the sensitivty to if i didn't clarify clearly why they effected tyler , let me give a final explanation. I think if youtubers state who they're voting for, they may take heat but their channel will be fine. But if UA-camr's dwelve deep into politics despite being a vlogging/entertainment channel then they will lose subscribers and that happened with tyler. I don't care he voted for Hilary, wouldn't care if he voted for Trump, it's a fact people didn't subscribe for politics they subscribed for entertainment. Hope you understand where I'm coming from.
RACE: With the race related tweets, i think more people were mad at the fact he was so stubborn and ignorant he wasn't willing to debate people and express his opinions, i don't even think his opinion was THAT bad in full context, but just the way he presented it was moronic.
And the other ones such a people getting bored by him + him going way too mainstream i think i explained well enough, so ya ty :)
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iNabber you look like a cute lil bean as always, don't worry luv. Love your content!
iNabber this Tyler guy reminds me of a she manchild I can't say I like him or his channel
mate as far as i'm aware dwelve isn't a word. i think the word you're looking for is delve
iNabber Why lie for? I read this comment before watching and I was waiting for you to look like trash! 🙄
thank u for reading this and unerstanding if u did lol
Honestly, Tyler's channel died because he tried to hit the mainstream so hard. He did, but in doing so, he lost the realness that most UA-camrs have and what people like about UA-cam.
alyssa I LOVE YOUR PROFILE PICTURE AGH
He also lost a large part of his demographic during election season because he was pushing Hillary's agenda a little too hard.
"realness that most UA-camrs have " you've never been more wrong in your life
As opposed to someone like, Jenna Marbles maybe. She was popular when he was and she's still popular now, because she keeps it real 😂 she isn't trying to act like someone she's not, she's just like ... a normal person
Well. Calling Jenna "normal" is a bit of a stretch, but that's why we love her isn't it? After all. She just uploaded a video seeing what mascara made her look like she went through a breakdown by crying. What other UA-camr would do that?
Oh shit I completely forgot this guy existed
K Gee lol same
K Gee same
Same
Sad truth is i used to watch every video he released but I haven’t seen one of his videos in years now
I was the 1k like ayyy!!!
It’s so weird to see how irrelevant UA-camrs can become after being so huge just a few years ago.
Yea but I'm happy about James downfall
it's insane to see them making 1 million views a video 5 years ago to be barely able to break 100k
We live in a fast society
Might be because their 'content' is built on sand. Try tapping into deeper human ideas that last for longer, like reading books.
@@kierah6087 he's definitely flipped that coin and the most popular he's ever been
I'm going to be real with you. Tyler Oakley wasn't as liked as people thought. Its just that UA-cam/Media was shoving him down people's throat's that when they stopped he couldn't maintain his popularity.
Styles P'yall so true tbh never watched him when he was in the big popular circle , watched ConnorFranta and his crew etc which is a mess now aswell but lmao just nothing to go on with his personality, he defined himself by being gay and his politics and fake fangirling over 1D, and it never really differed from thus
I did like him. I dont really know why he doesnt interest me anymore? Maybe he only appeals to kids? Because of his positivity and the simplistic way he describes stories of his life. Obviously his audience grew up but i think the reason he doesn’t appeal to kids today is because kids today think its cool to be rich, famous or attractive. They want to have the lifestyle these people have eg. team 10, david dobrik. But people back then rarely showed off.
I don't think he's "hated" as much as his fans aged and changed interests.
Yeah that's why I started to not watch him
Nah, I used to really enjoy his content. Now I honestly and strongly dislike his content, and worse, himself. "SJW" in this context doesn't mean an honest political activist, it means someone who will destroy others' names individually or broadly to force an agenda which they refuse to HONESTLY debate. This is what Tyler has become. Add massive ego and mind boggling hypocrisy... Yeah, I smashed that unsubscribe quick.
Leanerice22 Nobody likes a whiner
Never watched him, but I don't hate him. He seems like a decent guy, I think a lot of people just lost interest.
you are right
he never changed up his content. it got boring and repetitive, also his personality can only go so far
What does that mean? About his personality.
He had good content, but he lost his brand because he tried to be mainstream and he stopped making good content and basically never uploaded or uploaded q & a's that are another name for lazy videos.
Night Shine ASMR honestly
His content was bad in the first place. It was never good. A 25 year old fangirling over one direction to relate to 13 year old girls? Lol
Osoro Shidesu even if he had good content, he never changed it to evolve with his audience. The same content can only entertain people for so long, it’s why youtubers like Shane Dawson and Pewdiepie are still around. Obviously they’re extremely popular and wouldn’t completely die off so quickly, but because they evolved their persona and videos with their audience they are still relevant and have a large following in modern UA-cam.
Night Shine ASMR exactly, UA-camrs are starting to change and evolve to stay relevant, but for others who don't it starts to get boring with the same stuff over and over again. Some UA-camrs like Glozell Green (No hate tho) have millions of subscribers but each video can't even reach at least 200k views.
He only got big because he was a happy go lucky, gay, youtuber in a time when there weren't many of them around. Nowadays they're fairly common and he didn't change his content to stand out, he got stale. Him being a massive idiot didn't help when he actually tried to say anything serious
That is true. His content was mostly him talking about his sexuality. Now, it's okay to be gay, but you need t0 change your content to renew, intrigue and excite people. I am planning on doing videos myself, and I'm transgender... MY VIDEOS AREN'T GOING TO BE ABOUT ME BEING TRANS. It's gonna be filming, music, photography and art, and I'll change things up from time to time!
I understand why vlog videos are popular, but they are still fucking garbage. All of them.
@@themaskedtalker2171 not exactly, there still many places that prejudice against gays exist
@@xiaui556 did you even read his comment??
@@wordenit9351 I doubt it.
Wait, I thought you were Tyler Oakley? unsubscribed
Fancy seeing you here.
next he should make a video about your dead channel
BABY I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE HEREEEEE
That's why I thought Jenna Marbles was smart to publicly state she wouldn't talk about politics on her channel.
Courtney
Yup, no wonder she has a degree.
In fact she has TWO degrees!
Not a fan of her (I don't dislike her I just don't watch her content, but she seems cool) and it's smart that she said she wouldn't talk politics. She won't alienate her audience
She's also very aware that politicians want to use UA-camrs to reach a younger audience.
Courtney she's so mature
No lie, I forgot he existed.
Ariana Smaragdis me tooooo I was like Tyler who 💀
Same , I honestly don’t think I’ve heard of him before
Sameeee lol
As did I
This video is way too deep...People just got bored of him, forgot about him. That's probably why he has so many subs still....people just forgot they were subscribed to him
@Leif Jones I don't think "too deep" was intended in a bad way. It's still a compliment anyway.
Yeah he was like the first person I ever subscribed to
Lmfao stop. He didn’t fall off because of his tweets, he fell off because he continued to produce tired vanilla content and eventually lost his relevancy like Graveyardgirl.
I never understood why graveyardgirl even got that hype.
For real though. Seems like iNabber is putting so much importance into these tweets (which GAINED him popularity with his following) because he himself was bothered by them, not because they were the real reason Tyler's channel dropped. Oof. Mess of a video.
Who's graveyardgirl
@@nickthomas373 lmao point proven
@@nickthomas373 she was a relatively popular UA-camr in 2014-16 (don't hold me to those dates) she put out lots of product testing, paranormal, fashion, and haul videos. She was popular for her happy go lucky attitude, for her boundless energy, and her quirkiness.
Hope that helps!
I forgot Tyler Oakley existed until I saw this in my recommended
RealMikeTerra same
Same 😂
Same bruh
Same lmao
Same
I stopped watching him because I grew out of him honestly...
Yep most people the same
Yeah he never grew or changed at all
Ya man, like I was a fan back in the Five Awesome Gays days.
same
Sophie Ahmed he just got real annoying
Hm no. His channel just died because it wasnt his main focus anymore and it got boring and bland
Leugim He just got boring after a while, his content is like he is still living in the 2013-2015 UA-cam days.
Well said
He thought being gay was a good enough substitute for an actual personality or decent content.
@Altaidox Well that was gross to read, and I am gay. You could have just said 'I agree', without doing what the op is essentially talking about.
His content and personality is very beige comparing to youtubers of his generation like Shane. Unlike Shane Tyler became very generic and TV star like, is not sharing his insecurities, personal drama or anything enough unique educating or entertaining.
@@clubsnatcher basically, get over it
@@natvelo Get over what?
FACTS
I feel like Tyler’s channel is just one big trailer for his life. It’s just him talking about his other projects, shows he’s on and celebrities he’s working with. It’s one big advertisement.
Yeeeees! He was either selling or promoting something or did a Q&A which involved selling or promoting something.
You can say the same thing about Connor Franta, in my opinion. It became entirely too self referential and cyclical. He vlogs to promote his products and his collabs and his merc and his books, but his products are about his life primarily as a vlogger. There is no zing. There is no energy. No fresh take or mew perspective. It is plain white bread selling flour.
That is soo true. Was thinking the same thing. Who would want to wait for a month or two to get a 5 minute video updating he's got a new book or that he doing this or that lol.
100% agree! His UA-cam channel became boring for these reasons, and I eventually just stopped caring to watch anymore.
Uni-Corn 100% accurate
edit: this did not age well. i redact this entire statement except for jenna
shane dawson and jenna marbles are probably the only og youtubers who i still watch and enjoy. their content has changed along with their personalities over the years, they’re actually funny and make the content entertaining, and don’t try to be perfect or jump on the bandwagon all the time. i respect the both of them so incredibly much. thank you for coming to my ted talk.
camryn b I agree with you
I wouldn't say they changed their personalities, rather they evolved. While, they're overall more mature, they still have the same personality since the beginning. (If that makes sense). Because they have stayed constant with themselves, many feel much more connected to them. Alongside, they have new ideas to offer to UA-cam.
camryn b
Jenna is boring tho
ʇɹɐǝɥ ɐɹʇɔǝןǝ not at all lmao have you ever watched her recent videos?????
alexa 🖤
*opinions*
Do you know what that means
tyler oaklely kinda reminds me of tumblr; just kinda outdated and overly sensitive
That's why Tumblr creator sold it to Yahoo just as it was dying 😅
Outdated was no problem, over sensitive is
That’s kinda ironic given a tumblr was made about how problematic he was, lol.
at least he isnt partying and disregarding covid
I think this video has the cause and effect backward. His channel was steadily dying before he sold out to mainstream traditional media. His young fans grew out of watching him, and he didn't attract new young fans because his content was stale.
To me, it looks like he sold out to mainstream media as means of starting a second career and trying to draw attention back to his channel. This video says selling out caused the decline, but I think it's the other way around.
I agree!
I think Tyler’s channel is dying because he just doesn’t have much to offer anymore
tyler's channel died bc more "edgy and fun" youtubers came out
Olivia Kirby what does sycophantic mean?
It means an obsequious and slavish pose or behaviour to someone one perceives as being important, famous etc in order to gain favour or signal one's perceived virtues.
Olivia Kirby could you dumb that down a bit
I still don’t understand it :u
Sorry babe, basically it just means being a total arselicker to people who are more powerful/famous/popular in order to get ahead. Like with Oakley when he was just posting vids of him and pictures with really famous people and crawling up their arses.
Olivia Kirby ah I see, thanks for taking the time to explain :3
He didn't do anything.
His channel was basically "I'm gay and not afraid to admit it while other people hide it" and thankfully the world has changed enough that you don't really need to hide it anymore, so there was no longer a reason for him to exist. As a youtube channel, not as a person, he has the right to exist and shit you know what I'm saying, but JUST existing, and not making any informative or entertaining content in any way, isn't really a show in and of itself anymore.
Oh and his shitty Twitter stuff that you get into.
“The world has changed” lol more like America* has changed. You still can get killed or disowned for being gay in most Muslim countries
@@user-li9bg3be3i keep the fight going comrade!!
Моб Мобусов Majority of this world accepts the LGBTQ, the only people who don’t are religious people and shit. I’m in Australia and LGBTQ is greatly expressed here lmfao...same in Latvia and the Phillipines where my parents live 🤷♂️
@@cheechee6473 yeah, and what about Russia? China? Again, any muslim country?
This guy ironically looks like Tyler Oakley tho
😂😂😂😂
Fr. I skipped the intro and he popped up and thought he was taylor before he got famous.
American politics is especially tedious to listen to if you’re not American
Storm Arrow Bro it's tedious to listen to AS an American
Storm Arrow what are you talking about American politics is like reality television. They’re so backward, so corrupt, so incredibly fucked up it’s like watching a tv show.
Funny to watch, fucked up to realise trump and repubs hold total power
Archetype00 lol any country’s politics is a shit show
I remember being subbed to Tyler in middle school. I can’t even remember when I unsubscribed. I think his content was too boring and surface level for me. I couldn’t relate to him other than that we’re both lgbt. I feel like he’s a good guy but I can’t connect him.
I was actually subbed last year and unsubbed because I realised I was only watching content from 2013 and 2014.
I stopped watching Tyler Oakley because I got bored and because he got such a big ego. He’s so full of himself. Waving at crowds of people like royalty, going on national television, it’s just obnoxious.
How dare him go on National Television.
i dont like oakley buts thats just silly. how is going on TV a crime? 😂😂
I mean he got rly famous, why is it obnoxious for him to do stuff any other famous person would do? It’s not his fault he has crowds of people around him or whatever. He might as well wave to them.
Wow he's waving to a crowd of people who like him and goes on national television?, SOMEONE CALL THE COPS
alot of tyler fans here
He didn’t evolve like Shane Dawson
He devolved.
This hasn't aged well LOL
@@kaylala4695 That`s a kind understatement
Jesus Christ this aged awfully
kayla d 😂😂😂
Honestly, Tyler was boring from the very start but I feel like his prime was like 2013-2014/2015 when he did videos with Troye Sivan, Connor Franta, Dan and Phil and all those guys (that were severely more popular and entertaining than him) and when he basically fed off of bigger youtubers audiences. His prime was when all the older teens now were young and impressionable and, dare I say it, cringey young teens who idolized those types of youtubers. And now all of them grew up and grew bored of the content and he doesn’t know how to make other content to cater to them or everyone, which, in turn, is ultimately killing his channel.
Chastity Hope I still love Dan and Phil though, it's very comfortable and funny content to me. But the others ones are just boring now.
ageeing w the reply here, the only relevant youtubers in this comment are probably dan and phil. they've evolved in all the right places, haven't lost the sense that they were UA-camRS, and are still entertaining for many. they've managed to go on a second world tour (interactive introverts) which was a really good show, in my opinion
Remember when tyler heavily piggy backed on One Direction tweens to gain his audience? This statement is partly unfair yet also partly true, you must admit.
Nigahiga .
Y'all really just tried Tyler, his first viral video was literally by himself 😂😂😂
first video that pops up when u search up "tyler oakley" is this one. now that's the real tea.
Idc about the politics stuff. I think his subscribers are likely liberal-leaning anyways bc of him being gay and the type of videos he’s made. I think it’s just bc he’s totally boring and stale and there’s nothing there that people find intriguing anymore
I still love Tyler as a person. He's done alot for the LGBT+ community but I just don't find his personality interesting anymore.
But I still have respect for him plus he's from Michigan :p Represent
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wow that's awesome you can’t really spread awareness to young people if you like the same sex you already know so it’s not like he was telling older people or at a rally or something he legit did nothing and I’m kinda tired of him being some kind of icon
it’s sad but mainstream youtubers have an expiry date lol
Hilary Sarah except Felix, it seems
Obsidian Sinclaire (also shane dawson! :D) I'd say he's actually pretty underrated and pushed to the side. he only has so many views from his fans that matured with him and his content, and the few extra people that liked this new, chill guy and his newer content. basically reddit users/reddit user-esque people, and i wouldn't really call them "mainstream"
RainyClock Uno yeah, personally I love the Felix of today. He's honestly the most down to earth, humble guy on the platform.
Obsidian Sinclaire him and Shane Dawson I think are the most. They both have no problem being as real as humanly possible.
Also, Jenna Marbles she still gets a lot of views in her videos
Troye Sivan left
That’s why
Classic.Patrick And I say BYE
FACTS
I was looking for this comment 😂
YES!!!
I mean he still makes music? I don’t really watch Tyler so I don’t know if you mean something different.
Bro Tyler was 100% correct on the preference take how can you not be attracted to someone solely based on their race?
exactly.
...Tyler was speaking facts in those attraction tweets. But yall are too insecure.
he’s just boring tbh
Tyler Oakley is so boring I can’t even watch this video about his dead channel
DragcentricDeb (Dragcentric) lmao
Literally same
Deadass. Was even reluctant to watch a 15 minute video about some one I completely forgot about
tea
He didn't have enough Minecraft Let's Plays. That's why.
I stopped watching him because he wasn’t active on his channel. Also I checked his channel last week and his videos wasn’t as interesting as it used to be.
As someone who was a dedicated Tyler Oakley fan like hardcore in love with him and went to meet ups the whole thing. I didn’t stop watching because of some controversy I stopped watching because I grew up. His content never evolved even today his content is so similar to when I was 14 and started watching him. I’m 19 now so of course I’m not going to be interested in the same buzzword bright colors yelling white gay I liked when I was 14. Same reason for why I stopped watching zoella, Miranda sings, graveyard girl and all those other creators who don’t know how to evolve for a new audience.
Arianna Rodriguez Preach!
True!! People who don't change up their content ultimitley will he unsuccessful on UA-cam.
This! He also stopped posting consistently as he branched out into doing other things which probably didn’t help either.
You said it better than Shane did, in all those Grav3yard Girl segments! She's stuck at the same place/age content where she started her channel. Her teenage audience is has grown up, are in college, working, starting families ... she's stuck in a content time capsule. It makes me sad, but it's what you said...
literally same
I have nothing against Tyler but honestly thank GOD Zoellas channel died hahahaha
stx btx I haven’t seen her or her channel in years, I’m just going off of what this guy said 🤷♀️
exactly no one cares or talks about her
I wouldnt say it died, she gets millions of views on her main channel and vlog channel unlike Tyler and Alfie
J Brown but Zoella's main Channel has over 10Mil subscribers, the fact that she is getting just minimum 1Mil views shows how her channel is basically dead
SULEKHA yeah exactly, it’s like only 10% watch her videos
Its crazy to me someone sharing their opinion suffered more public backlash than Logan Paul abusing a corpse.
His only chance at redemption is if Shane looks into this like he did with tanacon
Tanacon was a drama tyler is irrelevant.
August take a nap satan
Cornn Chips Tana didn’t “redeem” herself on Shane’s show, she just cried like a pig and continued to lie
Lmao
Nope 🤣
I think the biggest mistake that Tyler did is that he forgot that his audience is still growing. All of his audience before are not teens anymore. We're becoming adult. We change our taste on videos.
Also that's what Shane did. Look at him now. Got a Trending video with Jeffree star. I'm happy for him BTW.
S¢ythegeist Yeah when Shane started reviewing things and playing with toys, I stopped watching him even though I LOVE him but when he started doing conspiracy theories and documentaries, I was glued. He knows how to evolve.
@@vampireinthesun4540 and that's really interesting because I fell off in for a quick second but when he started doing all of the reviews I was hooked and I couldn't stop watching him and then when he added the conspiracy theories and now the docu-series it gets more and more interesting. But then again I'm a teenager and just graduated high school last year so maybe you're older than me and been watching him at a different age
Legit read this then looked at the recommenced beside the video and saw the Jeffree star video
Didn’t age well
@@AceAlbatros lmfaoo
2:25 2016 was the weirdest year on UA-cam like we thought a girl got kidnapped by ISIS and was forced to record videos in a basement and that she was actually trying to communicate in Morse through her blinks that she needed help.
But yeah I agree that it was entertaining.
sweet_creature 7 Has it actually been two years since the Marina Joyce scandal? 😂 I still can’t believe people thought things like that
Shana Louisa I know right hahaha
Best summer of my life
Honestly its was one of the best year ever,considering now 2020-2021,pretty much sucks,we took that year for granted
If he said that today no one would have had a problem about it
i always felt like he was trying too hard to be "quirky" and that put me off him from the start. same reason i cant stand zoey deschenel
I used to watch Tyler Oakley in 2014/13 when I was younger and enjoyed his content because he was funny and relatable; but I slowly drifted away when his content became repetitive and he stopped feeling like a real person more like a B list celeb.
Ahh pretty much what i said then, sad to see
The only thriving OG youtuber is Shane tbh
Adria Danee’ pewdiepie and jenna marbles are also OG youtubers still thriving and doing great. So not the only one.
Jacksfilms too
Phil Lester is doing pretty well too tbh
a few gaming youtubers are also doing relatively well too still
Shane's king
Sad, he should have had a good manager. He could've made it as a host of some show, he's very charismatic...
I was done with him when he got a Starbucks brand deal and did their commercials but called people capitalist slaves for watching expensive super bowl commercials
that would be a good reason LOL
I mean let's be real, some UA-camrs come and go... especially a majority of those prominent in the 2013 era
Also if you're confused out my comments towards tyler's attraction comments, i basically mean his opinions aren't the reason MAINLY that this annoyed people, it was the fact he's not willing to debate people and explain his thoughts
iNabber stop apologising your video is ace, let it stand for itself, content like this is always going to cause debate, see that as a job well done and just ride with it 👍
Laura Guy Laura is right! You video was spot on man!
Your videos aren’t ace. You just make dumbass videos about other people for clout
but.... he did explain it?
He killed his own channel by deserting it for a less relevant platform.
I’m a liberal, democratic, gay guy. Tyler’s views don’t offend me because I share most of them, but what offends me is deserting your fanbase and platform because the appeal of being on TV is bigger. All this despite TV being a step backwards in time and relevancy. Not for me thanks 👏🏻
I used to watch Tyler ALL the time, every video, because I liked his content, probably still would now, I was 20 then and am 25 now so I haven’t really “grown out” of it... but I stopped watching and unsubbed when he jumped over to TV. I’m from the U.K., I don’t watch American tv, I don’t even watch British TV. Going from something relevant like the internet and moving backwards onto normal TV is stupid. TV is not what young adults watch, why would I spend time scrolling and finding something on TV to “settle” on when I can watch Netflix, Prime, UA-cam and watch something I CHOOSE to watch, when I want to watch it? TV is dead.
id rather have tyler reclaim his throne as the king of youtube rather than the current "king".... jake paul
I unsubscribed before all of the 'scandals' I actually never heard of them. I unsubscribed because I felt he sold out, just as Zoella did. I couldn't stand the 384th Audible drop. And this was before the adpocalypse!
I kinda forgot he even existed whoops
this did not age well... tyler is obviously right
It still confuses me how an openly gay man can appear next to a politician who up until 2013 didn’t think marriage was for anyone other than a man or woman. Her blatant disregard for the LGBT community stems back to a 2003 speech - Yet here he is a mere 3 years later standing alongside her.
Thomas Fisher people have the right to evolve and change their opinions. donald trump used to run for pres as a democrat
Hilary only evolves if it's necessary. She doesn't care about gays or anyone other than Hilary. She may be the biggest liar in the history of politicians.
danielle yearicks nah hillary is still a homophobe, she’s just saying what people want to hear
@@user-jl5ks7yj6y can you prove she’s homophobic it’s really stupid to judge someone like that just because they have to be public with they’re values and you aren’t
@@stefanoconnolly3563 not really
I unsubbed because his content is so dusty tbh
ARMY AMY omg "dusty" 😂😂😂
I never really know why these channels die off after being so popular when I never really found them interesting to begin with
Ronny de Ridder because children like them and then they grow up.
People start to find them boring or meet new youtubers or likes...this happened to me with Reaction Time and Kyutie, I used to watch them everyday from school (not kyutie because she posted at night for me) but I stopped watching them because I met new youtubers and stuff, don't get me wrong I still like them but I just don't watch them anymore...I'm glad their personalities didn't turn fake af like other youtubers tho, This is one of the reasons people stopped watching Tyler another reason because Troyler is gone (Which is very stupid imo)
It's pretty normal for people's interests to change, especially when we're talking about people who watch UA-cam on a regular basis (mostly younger people, kids/teens/young adults). I joined UA-cam almost 10 years ago now and I don't watch any of the channels I subscribed to back then anymore and a lot of the stuff I find interesting now I would've never bothered to watch back then.
People evolve, channels don't.
FUS RO DAH omg tea
His teeth are brighter than Tyler's channel.
I disagree with you on the argument of attraction and preference.
I used to say that I didn’t find black people attractive, and that is shameful of me. I literally wrote off millions upon millions of people based on their skin colour and said I wouldn’t find a single one among them to be attractive. Do you not see how stupid that is? I reflected on that opinion of mine, realised I was literally being racially prejudiced, and can genuinely say that I HAVE found many black people to be attractive since then. You cannot say that you do not find an entire race unappealing if you haven’t seen every person of that race and decided that each one is unattractive. It is moronic.
I am gay, I genuinely believe I was born gay, I spent a good part of my teenage years depressed and wishing/praying to NOT be gay. It was not a choice.
Preference is not a choice per se, but I do not accept that it is the same as sexuality. I think society and socially constructed “norms” DO have a strong influence on what somebody should find attractive, and I think my primarily white upbringing taught me to find white people more attractive. Thankfully I do not believe this any more.
Hey I love your username! Very positive lol.
I totally agree “preference” is literally just how and where you were raised. A lot of people make decisions about who their partners will be and what they look like based on many factors like religion, culture, raised in predominantly black, white or Asian (etc) communities. Going to high school really opened my eyes to all the kinds of people there are in the world, and so many more. I find culture and religion really holds people down tho in their preferences, where I live most people who are Christian or catholic are white and usually this means a lot of people feel the need to marry or date people of that race and religion, the same here with people who are Muslim, they mostly tend to marry people of the same religion and ethnicity as them. Of course this isn’t wrong in anyway but I always wonder about the pressure religion puts on romantic and sexual relationships.
He used to be my favorite lmao, I honestly haven't thought about him in yearsssss
Hi your name and pic are awesome haha
Sophia Crandall thank you so much, you're too kind.
He just dosent have nothing special, and too much generic content
HOW DOES INABBER LOOK completely different within 1 year
Great video Loved this I was wondering what happened to him 🙃
ayyyeeee you're my fave
I stopped following him because many reasons one is that his personality in his videos feel so fake like he’s too happy for me I love Shane Dawson because you see the good, the bad, and the ugly of himself but with Tyler i don’t know him at all and another reason is the tweet that really shocked me because if you mean that, that mean gay people are sexist because we don’t like being with women and the tweet didn’t make sense and maybe that’s why people stopped following him.
i think his channel died because he didn’t have proper subscribers. he used to do this think called “auguest” where he’d collab with loads of youtubers and it’s when he’d gain the most subscribers. he was never really that captivating. when he stopped collabing with people, people lost interest. so when he popped up in their recommended they unsubscribed cuz the content they were used to/wanted were his collabs.
I remember a few years ago he did a waxing video with Jenna Marbles and I’m pretty sure that’s the only reason I subbed
Yes! I subbed because of Auguest but unsubbed the first year he didn’t do it. That’s when he got more mainstream with tours and books. It felt like he had no time or energy left and his channel was an after thought. I don’t know about now but that’s how it felt a couple of years ago
I always got weird vibes from Tyler.... idk why but his content/personalty always seemed really forced to me. Just seemed inauthentic.
Every video: Q&A.
In Every Q&A: What’re you reading on Audible?
(Insert ad for Audible)
It's sad to see since I used to be a huge fan of his when I was younger, but it's the same thing with a lot of that sort of '2014 youtubers gang'. Most of their content became boring and something you couldn't realte to anymore. Tbh, I think his original audience just grew up and then no new fans replaced the old ones.
ItsZachTV and pewdiepie lol hes still doing amazing
[KIKI] awh god, tbh I forgot my profile pic was still them ahaha😂
Topics aside! Remember, UA-cam it's not only about entertainment and for that matter, there are independent reporters that do a good job being different from mainstream media whether the party they are. I feel that Tyler wanted to be more than just a UA-camr as you just implied with all the fame thing, and it's sad that it's not working for him anymore, just looking at his current views... Wow! But yes, you are right. He basically forgot that he WAS a youtuber and just left aside his niche, therefore, with the changes that UA-cam has had...he was left behind in comparison to the current and new youtubers.
Yikes! It's hard being in this platform and survive, also staying true to yourself. My respects for those that do well so lol
Exactly! Phillip Defranco is a UA-camr but he's also an independent reporter. He knows to balance the two which is where Tyler failed, miserably. He just became a B list celebrity that was no longer relatable
Also as someone else said, he just never evolved. The top youtubers now, such as Shane, who have been here since the beginning excel because they've evolved.
It’s really kind of sad that there are so many people commenting that they forgot he existed.
i feel like this aged badly lmao
yeah
The reason why he flopped is bc he didnt bring anything new or interesting to youtube
BitchGetOut but most drama channel bring nothing to youtube and they still live on..
Actually I do watch political UA-camrs for the politics, because they usually list their sources and give their opinions. I distrust the news and having a person talking makes it feel a lot more transparent.
The problem is non political UA-camrs pushing politics on an audience that didn't subscribe for it, or changing content too much in general.
Miss Niyuu same I feel like these famous youtubers are pushing the liberal propaganda to maintain their fame. I swear deep down they don't think like that. However, political youtubers wether right or left gives me the ability to make my own opinions without getting politics shoved at me. I really like how they present sources. The most relevant UA-camr would have to be Phil DeFranco since he's much more reliable than any news source, which honestly is sad.
Miss Niyuu - Exactly! The thing is though I will only watch political videos from channels that only do political content. I can't trust a mainstream UA-camr to provide unbiased information on politics.. It's sad that that's the reality of it.
Kavya Sundar Phil is awesome! He's my go to a lot of the time when it comes to news because he's not mainstream media, who will all too often try to paint a biased narrative in one direction or another. Instead Phil will simply explain the political subjects and then give his personal opinion on them, and he always cites his sources. I'll very often find myself agreeing with him because he's very logical about his reasoning behind why he thinks a certain way, but he never tries to push his own opinions on his audience and always asks us what we think about matters because he really is curious to know. As he always says, "it's a conversation", he's not talking just to hear himself talk.
Doommagic That's why I can trust him. I may not agree with his opinions, but at least he states his opinions after he presents the news. Also, what makes him more credible is that he is willing to apologize when he presents misinformation.
Miss Niyuu do you believe Qanon?
Aw Tyler! I used to love his videos back in the day, he was my favourite for a long time due to how down to earth he is and he used his platform to raise awareness for charities and important issues as well as being entertaining. As someone who used to watch his channel I actually liked the fact he knew celebrities and was collabing with them as I thought was so cool that youtube could bring opportunities like that to people I enjoyed watching and he always still came across very down to earth and himself when interacting with them. I also liked the fact he used his platform and his voice to bring attention to important issues that I wouldn't normally quite understand the jargon used on the news and mainstream media, it was easier to learn important issues from someone I felt more inclined to listen to (if that makes sense ha!) and found interesting and connected with. For me personally, I do agree as a viewer I did get bored eventually of his channel, like I did with most of the main british youtubers, their channels didn't really evolve or they didn't I'm not entirely sure which but I felt like as I got older I just out grew their content and found more people to watch that I just preferred more instead. Great video! It really got me thinking a lot about this :)
Aw, I used to absolutely love him a few years ago when he was at his peak. I haven’t forgotten about him, but he definitely has less interesting content these days. I wouldn’t say his channel is completely dead, but it’s definitely facing a pretty big downfall.
Dan and Phil have pretty much stayed relevant while interacting with celebs/being radio 1 hosts/being interviewers at the brits/writing books etc. I think the fact they keep their opinions about politics and mainstream celebs/drama to themselves is the reason they didn’t die off like Tyler, because they haven’t changed that much and when they have, it’s been such a subtle and smooth change that no one noticed
I think the fact that everybody ships Phan helped tbh
theyre staying alive because little girls like to fetishize gay dudes, thats the bottom line at this point.
Ahhh yes this is why we love them
Their dynamic also helps a lot. With Dan being the darker edgy one and Phil being the little sunshine it just WORKS. It's a classic duo and it's entertaining. They work so well as friends and as entertainers that they can keep their audience. They stay goofy and tease eachother instead of just becoming bland and "humbly" flaunting what they have like Tyler did with his fancy car and the fans lining the road. They're funny, uplifting guys with a good dynamic. A perfect duo.
Heathen i think those fans grew up to appreciate what Dan howell and Phil Lester are as content creators and humans. Sure the phandom helped a lot but it wouldn't survive if D&P stayed and acted like Taylor . They matured enough, for Dan to rebrand himself, talk about depression, doing tours that are ACTUALLY entertaining, putting content that THEY like without care of the deadline like some of these youtubers do "upload daily" "weekly" "every other day". They are basically like Ryan Higa, they never changed drastically but the change was subtle just like Higa's content. For my Ryan Higa and D&P will always be one of my favourite youtubers, they just light up your day when they upload a video.
somebody count how many times he throws his hands up while talking
sry
reminds me of a SuperThingsOnCups rap battle way back in 2012
iNabber shdkfjf it’s not a bad thing I just can’t focus this is just 1 opinion i love ur content
iNabber Hey I don’t mind. As a New Yorker I always talk with my hands.
I can't focuuuuus
0:47
“Algae beetee q plus community”
Lmao
his tweet actually lowkey has a point, we just weren't ready for it
Your channel is gonna die bc of all these GODDAMN MIDROLL ADS
Branson White girls gotta eat
Luz Del Rey its like feeling teeth during a bj tho.
UA-camrs get paid because of Ads
HAHAHAHHA
Not very well. Philip Defraco talks about that... a lot. UA-camrs make more money doing merch, etc. than ads.
This was actually super interesting, I used to be a huge fan of him, but slowly started to ignore his videos in my subscription box, I just got bored I guess, Which sucks because he's actually such a funny and sweet guy.
tbh i completely agree, i remember when i used to be so excited when he uploaded, but now im not even subscribed to him anymore
I thought I was going to see 2020 Fraser (hope I got your name right) but I was in shock when I saw August 2018 Fraser. You definitely upgraded
omfg I thought this was a new vid and your hair and setup completely shocked me lol
i'm still subbed to him because i believe he is a wonderful person but i haven't watched any of his recent videos because they seem very boring. a collab with troye and fresh content will probably make me watch again
Carlos Rivera yes, I agree, especially on the collab with Troye part haha
Carlos Rivera yeah i agree
Ill watch anyone collab with troye.
TheRosemaryWest Agree Still A good person Just Boring Now.
I used to be a huge fan of Tyler! Around 2014-2015 I had a fan account for him and was actively in the Tyler Oakley fandom. I started noticing around the beginning of 2016 that people were leaving the fandom one by one, and slowly but surely it disappeared. I guess everyone lost interest around the same time, I don’t really remember why I left, I just got kinda tired of it. I talked to some friends and they had the same reasoning. I feel like there are many reasons why people don’t follow him much anymore, but I saw that a lot of people just lost interest.
I just figured people got tired of the "loud gay man" schtick
He just started to die out because he did only Q&A’s for pretty much an entire year. Loved Tyler when I was in middle school but now I’m in college and working full time I don’t have time to watch Q&A’s anymore
Also at some point he almost stopped posting on UA-cam. I remember unsubscribing from him because he stopped posting. Sometimes it's as simple as that.
Tyler Oakley??? I haven't heard that name in years
I really enjoy reading these comments because everyone is pointing out different reason and possibilities his channel died. Stale content, his tweets, becoming mainstream, inconsistent uploading, etc. Its really interesting to read.
Meh. I agree with his tweets.
Honestly, I would never want to be famous (like I would be anyway). Losing so many fans/ getting bad reactions from others would make me so depressed
It doesn't always have to be like that...many famous youtubers are still fine (Shane, Pewds, Jenna Marbles, Jackfilms)
tbfh i unsubbed because it just seemed like gay was becoming his personality.
(not to be homophobic i’m gay myself lmao)
peachy druggie yes!!! same reason i unsubbed to miles chronicles, i grew out of the whole “oo theyre cool and unique because theyre gay” thing
peachy druggie same. Plus he constantly acted like everyone attacked him for his sexuality
Same reason I stopped watching RPGMinx. Among other things.
I hate that
Holy crap you have changed a lot in 2 years wtf human bodies are so crazy ahhhhhhh
Straight up.