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In the absence of God, why isn't nature normative? Cruelty abounds among animals just as much as altruism does. If we are nothing but animals, why should we condemn cruelty inflicted by people and not condemn identical cruelty among chimpanzees? What makes us so profoundly different from them?

My question is how come this debunking has to come from a youtube person and not an official other video from someone from oxford?

Of course "god" couldn't find Adam and Eve as he was walking through the garden in the cool of the day, because Adam and Eve hid in the trees when they heard his voice. Apparently, Adam and Eve figured out that "god" sucked at playing Hide-and-Seek. That was a lesson that "god" learned well, because nobody has seen him since.

One of the many plot holes in the storybook.

My bet it's the same reason a supposed all knowing being would put that tree in the middle of the garden. It's just made up to sell a religion, or two.

What you're describing is consequentialism. Consequentialism fails as a moral theory, however, consequences of a particular action and the balance of good to bad outcomes within those consequences. The reality is that every action has an infinite number of consequences into the future, whose interplay with the consequences of other actions are totally inseparable and unknowable. Therefore, it is impossible to ever know whether the balance of good to evil of a particular action lands on the good side or the evil side, you would have to be omniscient and able to see the future to know that. What we can know for sure, at least for ourselves, and what we can be convinced of by others, is that their intentions for our own intentions were good or evil at the time of taking the action. For example, if I see someone holding a gun to another person's head and I shoot the person with the gun in order to save the would-be victim, that was a good thing based on consequentialism since I decreased the overall suffering in the world. However it turns out that I was mistaken and the guy with the gun was actually the good guy who was holding the other person until the police got there which means I actually shot a good person and therefore by consequentialism I did an evil thing. But it actually turns out that the guy with the gun originally, though he was holding the other person for the police, was actually an incredibly corrupt individual who had killed hundreds of people through his life and had several in his basement he was currently torturing therefore, not having killed him was a bad thing, and my initial action is now good by consequentialism. The point is, as we learn more about the consequences of the action, it's categorization as good or evil can change over and over again what does it change throughout this entire story, no matter how much we learn in the future, is that when I saw the situation unfolding I thought the man with the gun was evil, and I tried to destroy evil. That is, in and of itself, a good thing. It is a good thing to do what you think is good. it is an evil thing to do what you think is evil, regardless of what the long-term consequences of your actions are

Christian apologists would claim it's for the "benefit" of Adam and Eve. However, that means Yahweh was being deceptive.

If you assume there's a moral law giver you admit you have no morals on your own and need some imaginary being holding your leash tight, so you don't end up eating babies for fun!

That is missing the point God created the devil knowing that he would become evil And then blames the devil for all evil when it's all Gods fault for creating him in the first place God is passing the buck when clearly the buck stops with him So he's just a big liar or a complete psychopath Both IMO No wonder Christianity is dying You have to be completely ignorant and delusional to believe any of that BS

Use a picture of an atheist

Its demolish long time ago... smart people do that..let say this there is 50 percent that God exist and 50 that is no God...what you think in your heart and brain..what your Blood tell you.. Observe

He isn't the smartest god in the pantheon.

Because Yahweh is only a silly minor god in the Hebrew bible

Why would god want to stop humans knowing what was good, and what was evil? Without the concept of good & evil, humans could just kill each other without any concern. Is god a complete idiot?

You can't expect much from the uneducated writers of the bible.

Yep you don't need to know anything else to confidently dismiss Christianity and Judaism.

What a bunch of crap

You don't need to assume anything when you have evidence.

What is to be gained from arguing with an atheist?

Progress from what was before then, whoever did that addition to the bible did a good thing, don't you think.

Who created evil Goonies on drugs equal god

I mean, he's not entirely wrong, it just so happens that it's been us all along who labeled actions as wrong and right, good and bad, and who set the standards to which we evaluate them.

It takes religion to make such a complete dolt believe he is right.

Evil is a subject matter. We are the definer of what happens to be evil. A hurricane, for instance, is not good or evil. We sometimes call pulling a chair out from under someone as a joke evil. Is killing someone that is a killer an act of evil?

One can make an assumption about something but then they have to gather data to support their argument. He just adds assumption on assumption. An assumption in itself isn't proof of anything.

If it's bad it's my fault. If it's good its god's credit. If it's bad and god did it, its still my fault somehow. If it's good and i did it, it's still god's credit somehow. Someone feels very "double standardish" about this but I'm not sure what it is.

The bible is chock-full of contradictions, genocide, and immorality, just to name a few. If a god were actually real, there would be no room for interpretation or arguments. There would be ONLY ONE religion and god...........

Miracles have a 100% fail rate. That is, every single claim of, miracle, that has ever been made that could be investigated properly, has always turned out to either be a natural event we already understand well or fraud. And this fail rate has been in lock-step with scientific discovery for the past 400 years. The better we get at science, the less miracles we hear about.

Time... Bc, all time is based off one God who became flesh. Yes, the Gregorian calendar and your watch all are because of Jesus. There proven

Downvote. I didnt click to hear your back story.

Immorality is using an abusing the invented bias to claim that this is the truth of reality and support this idea for lucrative purpose. It is good to recognize the fase of a lucrative mafioso that pray on people with nonsense

The only thing peepeeterson demolishes is his credibility

Nice Trout Hat Replica, Dude.

That daily dose of wisdom channel is an absolute joke I often respond to his videos in the comments to point out all the flaws in his argument He has never responded at all to anyone who challenges him Because he can't He is totally disingenuous Blinded by his faith It's all argument from authority, God of the gaps, false premise and huge leaps in logic to reach his obviously false conclusion But he does give you a good laugh He fails every time He's not promoting Christianity, He is showing what BS it all is

Jordan Peterson jumped the shark a while ago.

Theists ask, "Then, how did the universe came into existence" as if they can reply to, "How did your God come into existence?"

This is a common tactic employed by "apologists" when they have no evidence to demonstrate any of their claims. They make a claim, then pile a claim on top of that claim, then pile another claim on top of that claim, ad infinitum. This magically equals evidence for ALL the claims, and they proclaim "...therefore, 'god' exists". Think John Lennox.

The visual animation is the reason I am giving this video a thumbs down. Pick something else. It's not relevant to the content. It's annoying.

If faith is evidence, Christians have no right to dismiss other religions' beliefs because faith-evidence applies to them too.

Why is there nothing? = Why does nothing exist? Illogical!

May I ask you is there such a thing as consciousness and if the answer is yes of course: then what is consciousness and where does it originate. Consciousness is the life force energy that exists in every thing. Could it be Consciousness is what man calls GOD?

God loves us so much, he already has torture chamber ready to brutalize us for eternity if we don't love him back.

Typical nonsensical religious gibberish. Pure speculation, assumptions, and idiocy.

H sapiens evolved to cooperate as a means of survival.....scores of thousands of years before the currently popular gods. Does anyone think that people didn't know that killing, stealing, lying, diminished the chances of survival until Moses showed up with the tablets? Morals evolved long before Allah and Yahweh.

Well, S.O.S, so ironic you mention risking one's life to save a child. And yet atheism costs millions of children their lives through abortion.

You just have a Cthulhu shaped hole in your heart

Depends on your concept of "God". If your speaking of the Great Cosmic Muffin in the Sky, well no. Also if you object to the power of organized religion and the influence that has on people. ... Yup. But if your talking about what drives human beings as individuals and as a collective (culture/society), that's a different thing. These Drives are usually hidden to us or we are unaware of how and why we act and react to situations. You can call that psychology if you want but if you want to call that God, I wouldn't dissagree. It's the hidden force that drives us either over the precipice that we are unaware exists, or navigating our existence and becoming aware of the potential for our actions that result from our belief system.

It's called training Some can self-induce knowledge/skill in themselves, and others need extra factor

The lack of compelling evidence for any god aside, why would a loving, logical, merciful and all-powerful god worth its salt sacrifice itself for our sake, but not destroy evil for our sake? When you loosen that thread, the rest of the "god morality" unravels all on its own.

If God gave us our sense of morality then where did God get his because I cast doubt on anyone's "morals" who gRapes teenage virgins, drowns the world in a temper tantrum, tortures for fun, kills for fun, self deletion for fun... God is a vile psychopath