How to Play Tactics Ogre Reborn Like a Pro | Tips After 100 Hours
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Let's talk about 10 tips and tricks I've learned in Tactics Ogre Reborn after playing for over 100 hours! Leave your best tips in the comments and let's help each other play better!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:19 Affinities and Their Uses
3:10 Reducing RT
4:14 Staying Equipped
4:46 Bosses
5:47 Strong Core
6:32 Stayin' Alive
7:19 New Recruits
8:06 Make Some Money
9:20 Status Effects
10:31 Buffing Up
11:36 Bonus! - Ігри
MP cards are good for your characters that don't have Meditate. More MP=More Finishers.
But you also get MP for attacking and being attacked. Having Counter Attack weapons, and Pincer on a unit can help with MP generation, while also spreading more damage around.
i have a situational tip,when dealing with a fight where enemy healers are a issue,try spreading some poison the enemy ai most off the time will prioretise cleansing the poison instead off healing another unit that may need it more
Yes, they always prioritize status effect curing it seems
You said it with “take advantage of status effects”, but this is excruciatingly true. Battles become so, SO much easier when you’re stunning big groups of enemies or charming units in the back line.
Also I’ve noticed some debuffs are incompatible with each other, such as poison and sleep. You also can’t recruit anyone who’s terrified of you, for obvious reasons lmao
I used to be a "do the most damage" kind of person, but I've come around and realized the power of debuffs. You are absolutely right! And yeah I found out your last point the hard way lol.
Late to the comment but this is so true. My first time around I was singing “big damage only”
Second time around I’m reaping the benefits of Silence and Breach weapons as well as having Terror Knights just roaming the field, frightening everyone.
DMG was certainly more important in the PSP version, but due to archers no longer being absolute monsters on the battlefield, you have to come up with strategies that aren't just brute force. Glad debuffs are a go to now
It’s more of a late game tip but getting winged shoes from the palace of the dead is a must. Also, farming items and using loot tables is a satisfying grind
Once you have World unlocked, Law Ch 3 has 2 knights that drop them in Coritenae keep gates fight.
This is an excellent video, great job editing and explaining everything clearly.
Thank you!
Excellent and succinct tips vid for advanced and post-game players!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
The other tip for tanky bosses is debuffs. You can Breach and Weaken pretty much everything with items. If you can lob these from a distance, even better. Even then, many bosses can be paralysed, poisoned or silenced.
Also, collecting your own cards can even the score. Have Canopus zoom around getting 2-3 melee cards and by the time you've breached the boss his finisher is ready to demolish.
The Canopus trick is one of my favorite! lol
Canopus hard carries the game tbh
bonus tips > +weapon augments (from earrings or heavenly general weapons) add up to your bomb damage.. so.. you could equip a 1h Sword or Dagger (or even a Bow) on a Ranger plus the earring to reach 90 lvls on said weapon and throw bombs for 700 ish dmg. (that dmg isnt modified by enemy defense... but does from dragon scale, phalanx and golem gordian)
could do the same with beast tamers and blowgun...
Starfall and Heavenly Judge can exorcise undead units, both if they are stilled and if they were gonna be so with that attack. (so either kill em with those, or exorcise with those).
that opens up some mage classes that can use Draconic Spells open up for Exorcism duty, another thing why clerics ain't needed later on...
about status effects.. ninja passives (stun, silence and poison on hit) are not just for melee attacks despite the tooltip.
try em with your preferred blowgun for double status effect (but from afar).
All bosses in game can be slowed. have your highest MND character have torpor to inflict em on em for an easy ride against bosses.
Both flying and TEleporting (Sidhe ring or shoes) prevent you from falling onto a pit. Float doesn't (so fairies and gremlins can be pushed into those).
even so, a leadened flying character will also die from falling. so Teleport > Fly.. but you won't be able to reach really high places like a flying character.
Every special skill that guarantees a critical strike (i.e. Mighty Strike) will make the asociated weapon debuff to be inflicted always, also works for ranged (xbow,bow and rifle)
Bonus Bonus > If you let Donnalto Die when you had to rescue him, you'll instead get Felicia, who has 3 less RT, making her the best non-generic cleric you got (aside from Olivia)
got a lot more lol...
great video, sure it will help lot of new ppl playing the game for the first time ^^
Thank you! and thanks for the additional tips!
I'd like to point out the importance of Action economy, aka using debuffs to prevent enemies for acting altogether, such as Paralysis, Charm and Sleep. I always have at least a few equipped on Wizards / Terror Knights and it really makes my life easier.
Yup. I just picked this game up the other day and underestimated how important action economy is. The difference between getting stomped every time and breaking a line comes down to snoozing one or two units a lot more than I thought.
Great video. I wish people were still makinng these
Something to add is battlefield control can be a huge help especially because you are often outnumbered. By blocking up choke points or cutting off flanking enemies you can greatly swing the odds in your favor. Doing something as simple as slowing a flanking party with a 2 guys with rampart then committing the entire rest of your force to crushing one side before coming to back up the other team can make fights where you are massively out numbered quite easy. The blocking party doesn't have to kill the flankers just get in the way and survive and the number of enemy turns that can be eaten up trying to slog through 2 guys with rampart that are intentionally positioning to stop your movement is massive.
Also, do not underestimate Donalto with at least one attack buff card and cudgel finishing moves.
When a character has the voice of Lu Bu its obvious never to underestimate that character.
He's better off casting Boon of Switfness if no one needs healing. Anything else is a waste of MP and RT. If you've already leveled up his Cudgel skill to the point where he has a finisher, and you just so happened to be in range of an attack buff card *and* you are also in range of an enemy that you can finish off while also having a surplus of MP...maybe, but that's a pretty big outlier scenario.
🧙🏼♂️ Thats the way my friend! ✨
Thank you sir! Keep up the good work yourself!
When outdoors, standing on specific terrain will help or hinder attack damage. Standing on roads or stone gets better damage than standing on grass.
The goth "trick" isn't a glitch or bug. It wont ever be patched because it's not a glitch or bug. In the PSP version of the Crafting system the materials used to make the Baldur Blowgun were very rare and expensive and the percentage of creating that Blowgun was insanely low, the old Crafting system from PSP version is no longer used in Reborn. Instead of low percentages in Crafting items, the Crafting is instantaneous and you always get the item you wanted crafted. Still, the prices from the old Crafting system are the same regardless, this is why the majority of people have the Baldur Blowgun crafted because that weapon is the one that creates the most goth in return when sold back.
Great video, you deserve my subscribe!
Thanks! 😃
Finishers and magic are pretty good during most of the game, but i think that by the time you reach endgame, Guaranteed Crit skills in a dual wielding lord with berserk or a fusilier for ranged attacks are more effective than... literally everything else. For everyone who isn't doing that and is in melee, i feel like spears seem the strongest weapon? Not as much damage as other two handed weapons, but very strong and versatile finishers, and the reach keeps the user mostly safe, and with the bardiche or damascene spear you can even attach through allies without hurting them
Ah i remember the good old days on psp, my buffed up counterattacking Ozma can solo maps alone.
This was very helpful thank you
No problem!
amazing, thank you
No problem 😁
The best advice in the game is to leave your white knights naked aka no gear also its not a bad idea to grab the orb from the blackmoor fight which reduces RT, then to throw boon of swiftness on them. They will sometimes move 4-5x per everyone elses 1 turn, move them onto skill activation cards, and then just laugh your way to the bank as the velocity skill will proc non-stop. Also the luminant bracers, and snipe gear have free boon of swiftness on them in PotD.
I dont know if someone has pointed these out already but as a newbie doing his 1st run as a no incap, no chariot, no monsters, no humanoids, no "hard to get" classes (lich, divine knight), no zombie run, here are the top 5 things i've found to help in making the game easier (and to have less frustrating reloads):
1. use item debuffs on bosses. better from a lobber unit that can fly like canopus. denam makes a great lobber for alot of story fights (beast tamer) because he's usually scripted to be near the boss. the top 4 items here to use are weakened, spoilspell, breached and enfeebled.
2. focus on action economy, not dmg, especially not sustained dmg like poison. this is a game about action economy. the best use of your action is if the result of that action takes an enemy out of the fight for multiple turns (charm, sleep, petrify, stop) or of course killing that enemy on that specific turn. the only time you should think about dmg is when facing the boss as they are typically immune to conditions.
since most fights is just "vanquish the leader" i've found the most efficient teams especially once you gain access to ring of the mind +1 early chapter 3 is to bring alot of wizards/warlocks with your control spell of choice. i prefer sleep as charm easily gets broken by counterattacks. sleep has lower rt and mp cost too. so pretty much just slowly advance towards the boss, disabling nearby enemies along the way. then once you reach the boss your melee units can unload finishers/attack.
this also means getting more turns that the enemies are premium so velocity shift and boon of swiftness are must haves.
3. use items for healing. dont use clerics. i've found clerics to be inadequate for healing compared to items due to the amount. lobber units can heal for much more at further range while being able to contribute on offense when there;s no need to heal.
actually a good measure of how good you're doing battle wise is how often you've had to heal/revive. if you're doing that alot, you're being inefficient. you're wasting actions.
4. tanking doesn't exist in this game. there's no reliable way to generate and maintain aggro which makes knights like clerics, useless. yes rampart aura is useful in certain maps with chokepoints but most of the time enemies have ways around that with flight, spells and ranged attacks. or you could've achieved the same result (dmg mitigation) by simply petrifying or charming all your enemies otw to the boss.
5. maximize elemental affinities defensively. if you notice bosses one-shotting your guys with finishers or summons, check the boss's element and switch your squishier characters to the element your boss is weak against. the targeting in this game prioritizes elemental weaknesses before looking at hp or def/res. this way the boss will prioritize hitting your tankier units 1st. this also lessens aoe dmg to your units.
so save those element charms early on and switch unit elements during the tougher battles.
Very good points all. I agree especially with number 2 about action economy. Using actions efficiently and giving yourself more of them than the enemy are the best way to win.
@@89Games yup. this is the general case in most rpgs unless dmg scales well. dmg is only relevant for that specific action if it kills an enemy. a damaged enemy deals the same amount of dmg as an un-damaged enemy.
when i explain it to my friends who like dmg, i tell them think of control effects as dealing dmg equal to the enemy's hp. control effects essentially are one-shot kills if you can end the fight before the duration lapses.
Why on earth would you have your very first run of a game be “no, none of the features of the game for me, thanks.”
Might as well do a “no turning the game on” run first🤦
@@joearnold6881 because:
1. i find it fun. i like challenges.
2. apparently i could do it. not to brag but i'm a pretty good optimizer for rpgs. for example, i'm currently playing BG3 and my 1st run solo, on the highest difficulty with a few other restrictions.
3. you are exaggerating. not everyone plays the game like you. everyone's play preference/playstyle is valid.
now if you just want to go "cancel" someone, please go elsewhere.
Clerics are rough, because I still find myself bringing one and sometimes their spot healing makes a big difference. But once you hit San Bronsa and you've got Rabuna's Tanbur, suddenly Punkinstopheles (or Iuria, I guess, if you're not using her as a shaman) gets 5 free casts of AoE renewal, which constantly heals 100+ health on everything all the time and lasts for half the battle. The instrument cast doesn't benefit from echoing voice or resounding voice, but usually the second turn the pumpkin songstress can cast spellcraft+mp, and by the time I need more renew, she's got her buffs up and can hit a wide area with the longer version.
I guess by the time cleric fell off, songstress picked up the slack.
Hmm, I have Iuria. I'll have to use her a bit more sounds like. Thanks for the input!
you don't really need renewal on the first turn, i'd recommend you equipping her with a wind cursed dagger (or Pinion Dagger) and a Pandeiro+1 for spellcraft and mp on turn 1.
then she can join the frontline from a respectable distance with dagger finishers (mostly the wind elemental one and Overwhelm)
Thanks
I love this game, it makes you use brain it's great.
this game is all about status attacks, particularly fear, breach, weaken, spoil spell. put the latter 3 on bosses since most seem to not be immune and they are just like normal dudes if not less, also you can do the infinite goth trick as early as chapter 3 with ranged weapons II craft recipe, craft baldur blowguns and resell for about 4k profit each.
I did the goth trick chapter 2 actually. Less goth but I have more than enough. (30 mil) 4mil per 999 stack of Mutedart. Frogdarts are also a smaller profit.
Some bosses like Xapan is immune to fear and weaken
This is really good, do you happen to also have some examples of typical battle lines (like a magic centered team or a beast centered team) that like gives pros and cons to different common set ups. Cuz that's something Ive been looking around for to help me spice up my team comps as rn Im kinda just rocking "all the uniques" and occasionally BM + Dragons
Not at the moment, but that is a really good idea. I may put something like that together soon. Thanks for the thought!
You can run an undead team with a Necromancer - either a skeleton army or zombie units. Necromancy skills essentially make you immortal.
For End Game:
The META is to run a team of shamans, one for each element. You use the Phoraena sisters, each with the element that corresponds to their outfit. Deneb, Iuria and Lord Denam are candidates for Lightning and Ice. Princess Catiua gets Light. Tier 2 Summons are the strongest magic in the game, so everything gets wrecked.
If you want to take it one step nuttier - add a Lich in the mix for your Dark element character since they can also use Summons. Equip them with Paradigm Shift spell , Salvation and Reflect skills. Paradigm Shift resets RT to zero allowing targets to act immediately. Salvation will spread MP to nearby units as long as Lich is over 50% MP - essentially making them a battery. Reflect covers friendly units within 2 tiles, reflecting magic back at the caster. You'll want to have the elemental wands for the 6 main element Shamans and Malitza's Staff for Light and Dark. These have the +100 MP ability that you use in the first turn to kick things off.
Dying to purchase this game,
Not had the funds since Xmas and 4 birthdays in my house in 4 weeks each exactly 7 days apart.
By the time I get this imma be a pro
I'm getting by with just sending Ozma and 3 White Knights after everything
Year on and still looking at this game, but heard it gets very hard
Never know archer can shoot out of range, thank u!
Just bows and rock throwing. Unfortunately crossbows and dart guns can not target out of range.
the gold trick still works
Idk how i feel about the darts. It worked i did it
Get a bunch of dragon bois with a couple beast tamers and you're all set for dungeon grinding at least.
dude please make a video about end game gear farm
March 20, 2023. Infinite goth has been patched out. You must find the petriburst item as it can no longer be purchased in the shops. Bummer as I would have liked to have had the chance to use it.
So I just did this on 1.06 switch ASAP in ch 2. Maybe switch is not?😊
Is it worth it to change classes after reaching lvl cap early? It says my Danem is lvl capped, should I switch him from RK to knight?
When you switch classes, you get all the skills in the new class up to your current level. You don't need to level denam in each class. So switching denam's class is more about how you like to play than anything else. I would recommend keeping him as a tank class though for survivability, since most missions are lost if he dies. Hopefully that answers your question, enjoy the game!
one i dont see mentioned much is to use stafes with mp+100 on them or give clerics staff or purification for free no mana exorcisms.
Good points!
@@89Games also heavenly judge 1 and 2 tho extremely late game purifies undead/zombies when it kills
Nice! Yeah, there is soo much late game content, I feel like I've barely scratched the surface.
the gameplay looks a bit slow like drop fps, theygame in switch have some drop fps in avance lvls with many units?
I don't think I had any fps drops while playing. The gameplay and animations are actually a bit slow, since they tried to keep some of the style from the original game which I believe was on PSP.
yeah i got a question sense my level is stuck at the union level can i change classes to get new skills while im capped at max level cause god im struggleing,for reference im at chapter 3 at brigantys castle my gear is all maxed but i dont have any class skills from other classes like the knights phalax.
You could change denam's class, but he wouldn't keep the previous class's skills. He would take on the new class's skills in place of them.
This is the same for all other characters too
Trying a few different party line ups might help. Or recruit some dragons and beasts from phorampa wildwood.
i know the fight, it took me 3 deaths before i reset all my items and increased my healing items. Using mending essences was a must. Clerics just could not keep up.
Does the bow trick work with crossbows?
It's been a while, but I want to say I tested crossbows and no, I don't think the same applied to them.
Here is an additional bonus tip:
In the late game Canopus and Iuria are the best Clerics for their ability to fly innately. Iuria makes a kickass flying shaman though. Still, any generic (a tiny bit higher RT tho) winged makes excellent Warrior, Archer, Cleric or Rune Fencer.
Good points!
Canopus is good, but flying units cost a hell of a lot more RT to move per square than a non flying unit. So you're giving up turns for movement.
@@Neonmirrorblack that's not true. Flying units cost the same RT as any other unit. RT penalties are class based
not racial based.
I think what you're trying to say is *Vartan* is (it's not good lol) good but it costs a lot of RT per move.
Is there any tips to obtain magic leaf faster?? The old tactics ogre can easily buy at shop 😢
Not that I've come across unfortunately. I crafted Fruit of the Adept and used that. Not great but better than nothing.
Could you please do a video on World and CODA? This is my first Tactics game, I went Chaos Route Princess for my first playthrough/ending and have everything done except for POTD and Heim and I have no clue what to do now... I don't understand how any of this works, as much as I read on it and I don't want to goof up anything. I want to platinum the game because I loved it very much but I don't think I can do it without understanding these two and unfortunately the game isn't getting that much traction...
That's a video, I have thought about making, so if there is a need for it I may. But in short, your safe to do CODA right now without messing anything up, and if your not sure where to go, usually there is a talk topic in the Warren Report that will tell you where to go. As far as the World system works, you always keep any characters/classes you've unlocked and can even take them all back to chapter one. Every branch of the story, so your chaos run through ch. 2 for instance, will always be accessible through the World system even if you go law route at the end of ch. 1. Eventually, you can have every path unlocked and jump to any of them at any time. This subject is a little abstract and hard to communicate, but I hope this helps. If I can come up with a clear, concise way to describe it, I may put out a video too. Thank you for the idea!
@@89Games I'll be on the lookout! Thank you! I'll do Potd and Heim and I'll try to see if there's a video until then, if there isn't I'll just pray to every God I know lmao
Hey, @Nate Radix I wanted to let you know, I was able to make a video about the World System! Here is the link ua-cam.com/video/n_UnTogfacI/v-deo.html though it is scheduled to be public at 8pm est today so I don't know if this will work if you use it before then. Thanks again for the suggestion!
@@89Games Thank you so much, King! 🙏
I put my playthrough on halt but I'm watching this asap and getting back into it!
all I want to know is why when I'm going through POTD one of my character units has growing discontent and how the heck I fix that
As far as I know, the only things that affect loyalty are a unit attacking other units of the same clan, getting incapacitated, and certain dialogue options. Are you attacking units with the same clan name as your unit? Otherwise this is strange, and I'm not sure what else it could be.
found that raising a weapon level fixes the problem I was having with loyalty for that unit
@@professorpenne9962 cool! Glad you got it fixed.
Still tempted to buy the game. Just heard its a lot of work and gets crazy hard...
It is a time investment for sure, but if you enjoy class and team building it's really good. Difficulty wise it is a little on the tougher side though this can be mitigated somewhat by grinding on training missions. I guess it really comes down to whether you enjoy the longer classic trpg experience.
dont think i really have the time commitment nowadays@@89Games
Trying to use elements in this way is more time consuming than it's worth as the damage overall is minimal and very often a huge waste of time to set up. Trying to move your caster or melee unit into the range of an element they are strong against while ignoring every other enemy on the way? Huge opportunity cost and not worth it at all. Similarly with leveling up multiple casters of every element.
If your casters are in range of a unit that they are strong against, sure. Even then though you have to decide on whether or not to actually target that unit (which might be at full health) vs finishing off another unit that's also within range, but is also closer to death that they might not be "strong" against. Unless you're playing with a very heavy caster setup, they are almost always going to start having enough MP to actually use their direct damage spells once enemies have already been weakened by your other units, and it shouldn't actually matter whether or not they are strong against them, and instead they should just focus on killing them off. This is especially true when it comes to using AoE spells.
Besides any of that, as has already been said, status effects matter more. Things like Charm, Sleep, Petrify and Poison are all far more valuable for the first half of a fight than any direct damage dealing spells.
For bosses: just use Sacrifice brands to weaken them as well as the Dynast-King mead to force breach.
"at your approach, this unit walks away in disgust" I didn't even do anything to the unit why does it want to leave?
Infinite gold is not a bug. The creator and developers literally spoke out in public saying this was done on purpose
Beneb any good?
She's one of the few characters I never got unfortunately, but hearing it from others, yeah she's pretty good
Never undrestemate denam.... cleric + knight* swordsman+ dark knight..... Youll get palanx healer with counter....😝with Curse 😝😝
I’m assuming you won’t see this. But, thanks for the content. At 8:08 you start to talk about something and it’s absurd.
Again, I’m assuming you won’t be going back to check comments on year old videos.
The core of what you’re saying is … some people say it’s a bug, but it’s in the game so you’re going to use it and don’t consider it a bug.
By your logic, if a game crashes and deletes your saved games it’s not a bug because it’s in the shipped game.
That’s very obviously not true, right?
Most games are filled with bugs.
I’m not going to go into this further. It’s an infinite money bug … there is an economy in the game. They OBVIOUSLY don’t want players to have access to infinite money.
I spent a little time trying to imagine the mental gymnastics it takes to try to cheat and then tell yourself you’re not cheating and I’m not coming up with anything good. You want to cheat in this game and you found a way to do it? Do your thing. It’s a single player game. Have fun your way! 👍 But, be an adult and recognize you’re cheating.
This has been a discussion around the game for quite a while on this topic with a commenter on this very video saying that the developers publicly said the infinite money is intended thereby making this a feature. It was present on the old PSP version as well, though there was a failure chance to crafting making the process take more time but still technically possible. As far as the inclusion in the video, it was there to show that it was possible. It is up to individual players if they want to do it or not. I did not intend to sound as if I was trying to cheat without calling it so, though I see how viewers could come to that conclusion. I apologize for the poor wording. Thank you, though for the insightful comment. I appreciate constructive criticism as it helps me grow as a creator. Oh, and I read ALL comments on my videos😁
@@89Games I love that you didn’t get defensive! Thanks for the thoughtful reply. 👍
I hear what you’re saying. I may have some misplaced frustration about the topic that I was unfairly throwing in your direction.
@@zero11010 hey, it's all good! Creating a positive community around the channel is important to me, so addressing concerns such as yours is important too. Keep me honest!
No, the money-farm is not a cheat. This is a game where turning back time in gameplay turns is a built-in mechanic. This is THE pro-cheese rpg.
lol, very true
Top Tip . . . . play original or psp version
Boring game
Not everyone's cup o' tea for sure.