Tactics Ogre Reborn | General Class Overview | Demi-Humans and Beasts | Titanium Guides
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- Your general overview of the demi-human and beast classes of Tactics Ogre Reborn.
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00:00 Intro
1:09 Vartan
3:05 Hoplite
4:45 Juggernaut
6:45 Patriarchs/Matriarchs
8:22 Familiars
13:10 Dragons
16:04 Gryphons
16:45 Cockatrice
17:30 Octopi
18:35 Cyclops
20:25 Golems - Ігри
Bonus stuff:
#1: You can recruit Liches in Pirate's Graveyard, something of Misery is the stage where they can appear, and those can recruit Gremlins.
#2: I have a Gremlin but haven't really used it yet. As for its abilities: Agonal Scream (3 aoe around it, Dark Damage + a chance to Frighten), Coquettish Kiss (melee dark damage, chance to poison), Lingering Kiss (melee dark damage, absorbs HP and reset the RT of a unit), and Selfless Kiss (melee, chance to Stun/Silence/Petrify). I haven't really tried using it yet, but it feels like something that should hover around the back lines until its time to lock down a unit that appears.
#3: Pumpkins can take on the Familiar class, but are classified as Golems technically, and need to be recruited by a Warlock. This means that, the Warlock's Empower Golem ability also works on Pumpkins. This creates a unique situation where you can make a Pumpkin a Berserker, buff it with Empower Golem, and then double buff it with Berserk (which has its own innate damage boost) + their attack bonus ability, and Pumpkins can deal Terrible Terrible Damage to everything it hits.
Replying to myself because trying out my Gremlin. Their abilities actually have a range of 2 outside them, so just outside melee range, Lingering Kiss's effect always goes off if it hits, Selfless Kiss has a real high chance to hit and always resets. Selfless Kiss seems to always Petrify only from my Chariot use on it. So, Gremlins as a shut-down unit, especially if you're trying to focus soemone down. Not sure if this works on bosses or not.
This is all excellent information, thank you, especially the Gremlin abilities.
Didn't see timestamps in another comment so here they are
1:09 Vartan
3:05 Hoplite
4:45 Juggernaut
6:45 Patriarchs/Matriarchs
8:22 Familiars
13:10 Dragons
16:04 Gryphons
16:45 Cockatrice
17:30 Octopi
18:35 Cyclops
20:25 Golems
Thanks for the great overview!
Oh my God I forgot to add the timestamps again. Thank you for these, I'll be adding them to the video. 😅
Quick addition to Juggernaut and Vartan, these both have a rare 5 base move.
Juggernaut with cloud shoes is really nice for getting behind enemy lines and one shotting casters after archers silence them because of the movement boost
Thanks for these, im so annoyed by everyone making a tier list instead of a real introduction
No problem chief! I'm glad that I can provide for ya. :D
toxic breath does not poison, it leaden
Another great guide as always!
Appreciate it Fernando! Thank you.
Love your Tactics content!
Glad to hear it Laketuna, I love making it for y'all!
The imps/gremlins gain 'agonal scream', which does the same as the AOE 'lament of the dead' from the terror knights. It's not an auto skill though, you activate it for 35 MP. It's a solid play for that alone.
That's very good to know, thanks Michael!
My Griffin is a straight up steroid fiend at this point. The amount of power and Dex cards I have him is absurb.
Lamia are me favorite. Matriarch is cool. I kinda wish they had Mermaids, like in the Advanced games..
It would be nice if there was a wider range of cool demi-humans for sure. Matriarchs are great tho for sure.
The pumpkinheads are classified as golems, so you can golemsbane when fighting them or empower golem when using them, which can be incredibly powerful with both their berserker (berserk+sanguine assault+empower golem) and familiar (sparagmos) classes.
With all the talk about dragon scale and Gordian Lock, I'm surprised you didn't point out that the juggernaut's intimidate removes those, too. Every time I see a ton of dragons, sure, I toss out the dragoon. But I also send out a juggernaut to AoE strip those defensive buffs away, too.
Gremlins are arguably the most powerful familiar. The same way fairy kiss gives someone an immediate turn, gremlin kiss does the opposite, making the enemy skip their upcoming turn and go to the back of the line again. I haven't tried it out on bosses yet.
Something that surprised me was the variety of 'human' classes that orcs, lizardmen, and lamia can use. I assumed they were all the same, then I saw a bunch of orc rune fencers and terror knights. So I assumed lamia and lizardmen were two genders of the same race, and got hit with an army of lamia archers sniping me and lamia witches empowering an army of golems.
Oh! My last beast tip is that blood siphon's heal works for zombie gryphons, too. You can send in a zombie gryphon to create pure chaos, and because they're so mobile, they can usually grab physical cards, crit cards, and pick out a squishy caster or a marshmallow ghost and blood siphon to heal up 400+ health. I've come to think of 'gryphon' as a passive aura that deals 200 damage to all archers in battle, since if you put a gryphon where they can hit it, they'll target the gryphon... who tosses back a boulder.
While I'm sad gryphons can't evolve into their forms from the other games, it's interesting how Reborn handles it. The previous game had gryphons evolve into cockatrice, which are their own monster. And the sequel to Reborn had gryphons evolve into opinici, who can use large AoE wind spells. Well, now as gryphons get stronger, they get access to everything an opinicus could use.
Anyways, good video =]
Yes, pumpkin zerker with empower golem is hilarious, I love it.
Good to know about Gremlins, it's been such a pain trying to get one in PoTD, I might have to wait and go to the wildwood.
You can easily make a full orc/lizard/lamia team for sure, only thing they're missing is big cleric heals.
I haven't used any zombie beasts or dragons yet, I'm excited to try them tho and see how they work.
Thanks for the in-depth comment tho, this was a lot of good info! :D
On Toxic Breath, it inflicts Leaden not Poison... although you'd think it'd poison from the name!
Oh whoops, my bad! Thanks for the correction!
Aw heck yeah! 🎉🎉🎉
mollusks? :3
A rare classification for such friends;
I recruited a wingman archer and a wingman mage very glad i picked up reborn on black friday sale its my very first time playing the game not sure which route im on kinda glad i unlocked tge lizardman stage with the ninja first time you see ninjas in story battles he has been a very strong warrior i really want lamias but cant find those yet
Also of note, I think Evade will shrug off item effects(like healing items!) and Nullify will shrug off heal spells. So Evade is a big gamble if, like most players, you use heal items. Nullify may not bother you if you don't really use heal spells. Ivory Tower is the only ignore-type ability that won't run the risk of messing up any heals.
Edit: comma placement
Yes, that's a big issue with these abilities, I completely agree.
just for you to know, that i came here to see where the game goes.
the only game that i ever played from Ogre series was its ps1 version.
so many changes inside even though the game still use the same sprites. back in the day, skills can only be obtained by humans in Hell Gate. sigh...
seeing this makes me jealous. hope i can afford the console and game. man, those new classes are nutty!
i mean look at those Lizardman sub-classes for example! just amazing! 😣😣😣
The Lizardmen are so much fun dude, they're quite great! I have my fingers crossed that you get the chance to play, I'm sure you'll enjoy it!
Black Lizard Powder on Cyclops if you want to debuff spawn with some accuracy.
The Cyclops abilities might be a reference to the Odyssey and other myths involving Cyclops and similar beings.
Ah, now THERE's a possibility that I like the idea of.
Watched the Ogre tactics reborn.
Now playing Let us cling together for the first time and i'm kinda confused since i got a little used to the reborn gameplay.
Oh yes, going back to LuCT is gonna be VERY tough.
Good
Thanks!
What do you think about Divine Knights? It's a pain to get DKs and not sure if they're worth it.
I've gotta be honest, I've never had one as I've never done San Bronsa. They sound cool, but I don't know much about them. I'm hoping to get to them soonish tho.
3:08 Hoplite CAN NOT only done by Lizard Men and Orcs, but also Lamias.
Technically true, but Lamia are just Female lizardfolk
@@TitaniumLegman While you are right they count as a "Reptile" I doubt they are "Female Lizardfolk" implying Lizardmen.
Pleeease make a video including all named characters doing a “Smash or Pass?”
Canopus is an obv smash
...This is one I might have to do XD
One of the minor things that annoys me is that the demi-humans don't get any sprites for each of their classes, particularly Winged folk.
For me its an issue because on maps with significant vertical obstructions i will run half of my squad as a balanced group of winged. Usually canopus, a second vartan, a warrior, rune fencer, wizard and if i have room and need it, a cleric or lobbing beastman for mobile healing. It would be REALLY nice to be able to tell who's who during those fights without having to click on them.
Yup yup yup, big agree on this one. It's a shame that TOR didn't introduce some new sprites or at least customization options to help them stand out.
sadly reborn remove "Basilisk dragon" that have the Evil eye as Gorgon(Matriarch) , which can petrify all units across the screen, unless you have a shield or standing behind a unit/obstacle/Blue or red necklace.. you can get petrified
😵
Noob question here, What is best class for Canopus as a physical type fighter?
Thanks
I would say Buccaneer once you have access to it. A good mix of ranged and melee physical options, speedster and dual wielding are hard to beat.
@@TitaniumLegman but before this class gets unlocked , which early game class for canopus is good ?
can Vartan Class Marks are for sale in shops ? and if yes , which chapter?
any updates on this ?
I heard they are rare after you get them the 1st time.
I've only ever gotten them as drops, typically in the Phoroampa Wildwood. You should be able to buy them in chapter 4 at Deneb's shop tho, that's where you can buy most unique classmarks.
@@TitaniumLegman Thank you
Can you only recruit Imps in palace?
Negative, you can find them in the Phoroampa Wildwood and some story battles. But you need a Lich to recruit them, so you'll have to wait until the Pirate's Graveyard to start recruiting them (you can recruit a Lich in the Graveyard, so you don't have to wait to get a Ring of the Dead from PotD.)
@@TitaniumLegman How do you recruit a Lich? With the human skill? What skill is needed, and what class can do it?
@@jonkohrr2.06 yup, recruit humans is the way to ago , and many classes can do it. Cleric and Knight are some of the most consistent. If you want to MAKE a Lich, that's where you need a ring of the Dead from the palace of the Dead.
@@TitaniumLegman Thanks! I guess I'll try to recruit one from the Pirate Graveyard once I finish at the temple
I will always see Canopus as Eagle Man, not Vartan
Comment for the algorithm
Much appreciated Garret!