I've always noticed that even though Tyrion knew Ned Stark's arrest benefitted his family, he always recognized the injustice of it and worked in small ways like this to right some of it.
That's true. He is also cognizant of the fact that a corrupt City Watch is bad for him -- they're the defense of the city and he needs them to be organized and disciplined. If he had left Janos and his corrupt lackeys in charge, the watch probably would have scattered in disarray when Stannis attacked at the end of the season.
He also do it out of self-preservation. He wants his man, not Cersei's man. Bronn can be as cruel, but he's on his side so he's better(however, in the books Tyrion puts someone recommanded *by Varys* as a relatively honorable person)
That's why I love this scene so much. I would never trust a man who betrayed the last hand to work alongside me either. But in a way Tyrion does care for the Starks, and he identifies that arresting him was for protection but he also knows that It was an act of betrayal. It's like Ned said, "I cant restore your dead to life, but perhaps I can give you justice." Which in comparison, this justice isn't much, but it WAS something.
Well at least the price for it would be pretty damn high I believe. I feel like Bronn for all his love of the coin would ask for a pretty damn big price to do something like that.
@@AzraelSoulHunter pretty sure its an easy job and not far fetched.. I doubt the price would be high since He'll be killing babies and not fighting dothrakis, you know how easy it was for the city watch to do it...
Top 10 things janos slint does not have. 10. honor 9. powerfull friends in court 8. powerfull friends in the capital 7. friends in the nights watch 6. friends 5. the right to dissobey orders 4. a position on the kings guard 3. a position in the nights watch 2. courage 1. a head
After reading a game of thrones. The best dialogue came from Martin. D & D had a vision for the show. Like battles and that. But writing that was all Martin’s work
This is what I love about Game of Thrones. Bronn is easy to like, because he's charismatic, funny, and helps Tyrion. Janos is easy to hate, because he's annoying and betrayed Ned. But they don't let you pretend that Bronn is a better person than Janos just because he's likeable. They make it clear that Bronn is just as much of a scumbag. They don't take the easy way out with their characters.
He's not quite "just as much of a scumbag". He can be a scumbag if he's being paid enough, but he's nice the rest of the time. Janos is a scumbag whether he's being paid or not. There _is_ a moral difference between them, and Bronn is on the better side of it.
@D Anemon I don't think more seasons would have helped. D&D are only good at adapting material not at writing their own staff. And since they ran out of books everything after season 4 was doomed to fail (which it did).
When you write infant, you don't need to add child afterwards, since an infant is already a child, so you are basically writing child twice. Always good to learn new things everyday isn't it? :)
@@PS1GamerCollector ending your correction with a condescending passive-aggressive sentence shows you're an asshole. Always good to learn new things everyday isn't it? :)
@@mattireson866 Holy damn what's going on? I simply decided to correct the guy and now there is a bunch of weirdos going on a rampage in the comments section talking about passive agressiveness and assholes. Millennials really get offended by anything damn...
Yep definitely one of Tyrion’s Best Lines. I also Loved his other Badass Quote to Janos in this scene “DWARF You should have Stopped at Imp!” We really felt him being Pissed off at Janos in that moment and he said It with such Authority! Lol.
If D&D had been writing this season now, Tyrion would have made Janos Lord Paramount of the Trident because he sees some good in him and knows he can be trusted.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England Tyrion would've made Janos master of coin and giving him high garden...
In the books George RR Martin actually wrote that after that statement, Tyrion thought 'And why would I need your Allar Deem' (who did the deed with Slynt) ', Lord Slynt?... I have a hundred of my own.'
I mean it actually shows he's more moral than people like Slynt, who just blindly carries out orders no matter how horrible, he wouldn't do it unless it paid well enough. He's no saint obviously, but he's not completely heartless
@@Christrulesall2 I think the following is Tyrion's most savage line in the entire book series and it's a shame it didn't make it in to Game Of Thrones: "Sorcery is the sauce fools spoon over failure to hide their flavor of their own incompetence".
"I'd ask how much." We all grew to love Bronn as the series progressed. His witty one liners and realistic outlook on how to approach fights in general. We all forget (especially D&D) how ruthless, unhonorable, and uncaring this character actually was. And then D&D made this character the master of coin. Like....lol.
He is literally taking over from Littlefinger... "a grubby little job for a grubby little man". They're playing on the historic medieval dislike of "usury" and that no honourable person would be involved with it. That's why Jews were the moneylenders, the "noble lords & knights" already considered Jews bound for hell so them being coinmasters wouldn't make it any worse for them. Hence Littlefinger whoremonger, then Bronn sellsword, as MoC.
@@darthkek1953 Jews were often moneylenders because Judaism didn't make Usury a sin as Christianity did, they gained a reputation from there, not so much the other way around. Even then, feels like Bronn was thrown onto the council just because D&D wanted to cram more fan favourites in.
@@darthkek1953 Adding nuance is what that is called. Also the suggestion that there is absolutely no reason to believe that is why D&D made Bron the Master of Coin, cool theory I guess but it's fan service at best.
@@Aldrnarii the three known Masters of Coin were Littlefinger (whoremonger) Tyrion (Demon Monkey Imp) and Ser Bronn (mercenary turned Knight). If anything Bronn was the best of the three.
Tyrion be like: "Yes, Slynt, you have friends at court. All I'm doing is giving you the opportunity to make friends at Castle Black also. No need to lose your head over it."
The way Bronn says boys to the guards makes me imagine him chilling with the city guards, cracking jokes, drinking the nights away, having all the respect of his men while still doing a stellar job without even breaking a sweat. What a chad!
And they would have a lot more respect considering what Janos did. However bronn likes to drink with the soldiers because it's amazing what stories and rumours you hear from them
I always liked the idea that the Goldcloaks that Bronn commanded were other brigands and sellswords like him, friends he'd made or men Tyrion had recruited. A bunch of toughs in shiny armor laying down the law with brutal efficiency. Thieves? Cut em down. Murderers? Hang em high. Rapists? Off with their heads. Bronn probably had fleabottom whipped up in a frenzy because he's a slimy guy who knows where slimy business takes place so now, in a place of power, he can cut it out root and stem. Like that business with him rounding up all the known thieves and disposing of them. That was probably the most law abiding period of King's Landing's history Lmao
If I remember correctly, I think they show us that Bronn spends leisure time with the men he commands, trading stories. I could be thinking of something else, though.
With the way he talks about them later on, before the siege, it really does sound like they just go out and do whatever the fuck they want, so that's probably what happens lol
I like Bronn as much as everybody, but seriously, interactions like this one are huge signs you DO NOT include this guy in the king's council. Like, I cannot believe the show actually did that in the finale
@@johnbrinsmead3316 tbh it's pretty obvious that when they ran out of book material they just had no idea wtf they were doing so we got all this later mess of bullshit
The fact that Tyrion had the common courtesy to give him a fine feast before he shipped Slynt off to the Wall shows precisely how cunning Tyrion really was. God I miss this writing
@@systemofafox6487 And not just that scene. By the gods, they were descriptive with a lot of the foods whenever food was served in the books. I always get hungry when I get to those parts!
He doesn't have a full measure of Slynt yet, and uses the baby killing as a test to see his loyalty. He notices immediately that Slynt has no moral restrictions and that he refuses to disclose who gave the order. Essentially he confirms Tyrions suspicions that he betrayed Ned and won't be 100% honest/loyal with Tyrion either, and Tyrion makes that decision to send him off.
His death had nothing to do with Ned. It was the result of disobedience. Jon probably didn't even know what role Janos played in it (Jon was in a low position in Watch at the time). Also let's not forget about Payne.
Janos' problem was that for a soulless husk of a man he spoke too much. The last guy had no tongue. Nobody really noticed and he didn't even seem to mind. He knew his place. That's the man you want murdering your women and children.
@@scorchtongue eh I would say it was more George that is responsible for that. Sure they adapted it well for the screen, but they had a strong foundation
They were amazing at adapting the book, very bad at writing a new one. Their failure was spectacular, but tbh, I don't think anyone would have done great. It seems Martin himself has no idea how to wrap this thing up.
The Conservative Front shut the fuck up, that’s a lie, people dick suck all the show only scenes they wrote and loveee to pretend Martin, who didn’t help with these is actually adding anything
Hesitantly, Lord Janos drew out the ornament and handed it to Tyrion. “We have goldsmiths in Lannisport who do better work,” he opined. “The red enamel blood is a shade much, if you don’t mind my saying. Tell me, my lord, did you drive the spear into the man’s back yourself, or did you only give the command?” “I gave the command, and I’d give it again. Lord Stark was a traitor.” The bald spot in the middle of Slynt’s head was beet-red, and his cloth-of-gold cape had slithered off his shoulders onto the floor. “The man tried to buy me.” “Little dreaming that you had already been sold.” Slynt slammed down his wine cup. “Are you drunk? If you think I will sit here and have my honor questioned . . .” “What honor is that? I do admit, you made a better bargain than Ser Jacelyn. A lordship and a castle for a spear thrust in the back, and you didn’t even need to thrust the spear.” He tossed the golden ornament back to Janos Slynt. It bounced off his chest and clattered to the floor as the man rose. “I mislike the tone of your voice, my lo-Imp. I am the Lord of Harrenhal and a member of the king’s council, who are you to chastise me like this?” Tyrion cocked his head sideways. “I think you know quite well who I am. How many sons do you have?” “What are my sons to you, dwarf?” “Dwarf?” His anger flashed. “You should have stopped at Imp. I am Tyrion of House Lannister, and someday, if you have the sense the gods gave a sea slug, you will drop to your knees in thanks that it was me you had to deal with, and not my lord father. Now, how many sons do you have?” Tyrion could see the sudden fear in Janos Slynt’s eyes. “Th-three, m’lord. And a daughter. Please, m’lord-” “You need not beg.” He slid off his chair. “You have my word, no harm will come to them. The younger boys will be fostered out as squires. If they serve well and loyally, they may be knights in time. Let it never be said that House Lannister does not reward those who serve it. Your eldest son will inherit the title Lord Slynt, and this appalling sigil of yours.” He kicked at the little golden spear and sent it skittering across the floor. “Lands will be found for him, and he can build a seat for himself. It will not be Harrenhal, but it will be sufficient. It will be up to him to make a marriage for the girl.” Janos Slynt’s face had gone from red to white. “Wh-what . . . what do you . . . ?” His jowls were quivering like mounds of suet. “What do I mean to do with you?” Tyrion let the oaf tremble for a moment before he answered. “The carrack Summer’s Dream sails on the morning tide. Her master tells me she will call at Gulltown, the Three Sisters, the isle of Skagos, and Eastwatch-by-the-Sea. When you see Lord Commander Mormont, give him my fond regards, and tell him that I have not forgotten the needs of the Night’s Watch. I wish you long life and good service, my lord.”
Damn it all you did was increase the desire to reread the books. Which i didn't want to do until just before Winds of Winter came out. Which will likely be bloody never
The beauty of this scene is that you see Tyrion’s conflict at the end. Bronn is willing to do exactly as Janus had done without question besides money. A man of similarly no conscience when it comes to orders. The only difference is Bronns loyalty to Tyrion as opposed to Janus’ loyalty to Cersei.
Tyrion didn’t really address the massive corruption in great detail occurring under Slynt watch. Bribery, extortion, graft you name it. All of the city watch guards were surrendering large portions of their pay to Slynt
Slynt - "Are you drunk?!? Will not have my honor questioned by an imp!" Tyrion - *(⌐■_■)* "I'm not questioning your honor, lord Janos. I'm denying its existence." _P + IMP = PIMP_
What's really great about this scene (and Dinklage's acting) is you can tell the way Tyrion is talking to Slynt is actually really condescending in a way, he doesn't talk to Slynt like he talks to Varys, or say Littlefinger, but rather like one might talk to a child because he knows Slynt is not a good player of a game, but a pawn, and so doesn't command the same respect would give other players.
Tyrion's comments about Janos "knowing his wines" and "getting used to fine dinners" felt like jabs about how Janos spends more time acting like a noble than he spends doing his job.
Tyrion knew Janos posed absolutely no threat to him. Varys and Littlefinger on the other hand, were very intelligent and manipulative people with a lot of influence and power.
And poor old Janos got to die in most ironic fashion... he killed a bastard, disdained bastards, and then was killed by a bastard. Haha fucking love Jon Snow.
Godot I've heard the directors keep changing the story from the books, so I'll say maybe, maybe not, you're purpose for your comment hasn't worked well 😎
I think he was sarcastically pointing out that your initial comment could be perceived as the unintelligible ramblings of a stroke victim. Although, sarcasm is hard to pick up through text, so who knows.
I find it telling how eagerly the guards took Janos away. You'd think if Janos was the kind of commander who inspired loyalty, it would be difficult to get his men to arrest him even with orders from their new boss. What I'm saying is i imagine Janos likely wasn't very popular among his men
from what I can remember one of the guard's was hesitant to kill one of the babies in Cersi's ordered Purge, Janos ended up doing it himself. Im not claiming that the guards of the watch were beacons of morality, but not a lot of people are fans of infanticide. The guards were probably happy to be rid of him after that.
when it comes to soldiers, or combatant types of that era, id say the price of respect can come down to three things: loyalty, morality and strength. janos' loyalty could be shifted by any price, making every word of honor or dignity that comes out of his mouth meaningless. he has proven himself to have no moral fiber given, without hesitation, he stabbed to death an infant in its mothers arms. and all his strengths were reliant solely on the intervention of others, which granted him no true fear or intimidation. when you sully one of those three things, people might question your capabilities. you sully two, most people may consider themselves above you. this guy sullied all of them. theres no comparison, hes just fucking degenerate. bronn lacks morals, but he could probably kill all of them if he wanted. and at least his loyalties are to someone with some semblance of a conscious. considerably better.
@@SnapOoooThereItIs to be fair, Bronn's loyalty is to the gold he is paid moreso than an individual. Otherwise he would have slain the Mountain for him.
@@alexthorsman3186 Yeah, but even then, Bronn doesn't pretend to agree to fight the Mountain and then back out. He's very up front with Tyrion about how it is, and he's consistent with what he's always told Tyrion.
“What a fool - he had no idea you were already bought!” “I’m not questioning your honour; I’m denying its existence” “Without question? No, I’d ask how much” Jesus Christ every line from season 1-4 is instantly quotable. Anyone else considering *just* looking at the first four seasons during rewatches? I think S4 E10 had such a perfect ending with no cliffhangers and enough ambiguity that we could have left everything to the imagination and the show would still have been perfect.
I always tell people that GoT up to season 4 was the Greatest Show Ever base on GRRM blueprints and great writing. Then within the next 4 season you had maybe 4 to 5 episodes that was some of the Greatest Episodes of any show base on it Movie Level CGI, but without Lazy Fat GRRM blueprint to follow and make better in spots the 2 Heads of The Dragon Dick in Dan & Dave couldn't write their own story or good dialogue to save their pitiful lives.
@@darth856 Season 5 is nowhere near close to the books. Not like this was. By season 5 plot threads have diverged from the books so much that it may as well be a totally different story.
I have to admit the sharp tongue of Tyrion was one of my favorite parts of the show! He really knew how to cut someone down to size. I would have loved seeing him trade insults with Lady Olenna!
"Lets write the dialogues as close to the original source material as possible" = This "Lets write the dialogues ourselves, how hard can it be?" = "She is our queen"
I think the did a really good job with this scene, but they omitted two of the best parts: First, Janos Slynt is low born and doesn't know wine at all. As Tyrion notices, the man takes big gulps of fancy wine and doesn't seem to believe in sipping. Which I found so funny (plus the actor they picked is perfect for the role). Second, during the supper, Slynt brings him a list of six men to replace him as head of the city watch. He strongly suggests Allar Deem (which is the one who kills the baby in the brothel), because he does what is asked without ever questioning it. Once Slynt is taken away by the guards, Tyrioñ is like: "It's a long voyage, and Lord Slynt will want for company. See that these six join him on the Summer's Dream (the ship)." "There's one," Tyrion said quietly. "Deem, tell the captain it not be taken amiss if that one should happen to be swept overboard before they reach Eastwatch" "- I'm told those northern waters are very stormy, my lord". Such a good dialogue.
I actually was reading the books recently, and I think I like how Martin wrote this scene better than the TV writers did, but you can't just introduce new characters like he did in a TV show. Basically they dumbed it down for the TV audience but what can you do. In the book there was actually a purpose for the dinner, he basically got all the people that Janos had recommended (bad men) and dismissed them to the wall too. The TV show scene seems a bit rushed to me and now that I rewatched it I see that actually. Plus when I read the book I felt bad for Janos. In the show he is just shown as a jerk, but in the book it mentions how he has a family, and points out just how stupid he really is. So it's less that he is a jerk, more of an idiot that bit off more than he could chew.
I don't think it's dumbed down, I think it's more streamlined. Inserting a one-scene-wonder character in a TV show would cost much more than in a book. Anyway, these parts in the show illustrated the measures Tyrion took in order to keep his "bosom free of arses" (lifted from Blackadder) fairly well in my opinion, I don't think there was much need to elaborate on them further.
- "Seeing as you betrayed the last Hand of the King, well I just wouldn't feel safe with you lurking about." End quote Haha. Flawless delivery. Candid, accurate and concise
Bronn stares at him for a moment and that looks says it all. Thinking about what kind of man he is. Wondering at the kind of man who’d order such a thing. Then accepting the truth.
This scene is such a masterpiece I'm laughing in joy. The way Janos feels more and more uncomfortable as Tyrion slowly attacks him, Tyrions mocking tone and his "No, we shan't", Bronn's smirk when Janos yells his tirade. Amazing. I will rewatch the first four seasons at earliest convinience
That last quote really shows that Bronn isn't a good person. And the look that Tyrion gives one of his only friends when he realises the length that Bronn would go to for money ;-;
It still says a lot about him. Slynt did it for free. Bronn would require the right price. I imagine it would be a high price too. So despite all, Bronn is still the better man.
+Hal Jordan "you fucking idiot." That opener tells me this won't be mentally stimulating. If you look at my post again, you'll see that I never said he was a good man. I'm undecided where Bronn stands on a moral scale. He's pretty much stated he'd do just about anything for the right price, but really we've never seen him act particularly evil, so we don't know how high that price might be.
Bronn is like Tywin in that regard. Both will stop at nothing to obtain what they want. In Tywin's case, he's motivation is his family's status. In Bronn's case, it's the promise of gold and power.
Best part is, how many of those City Watch fellas served under Slynt and hated his guts as well? They probably lined up to volunteer to drag him to the ship.
He moved up at the wall in much the same way he did in King's Landing; he was a textbook sycophant, and a sly one at that. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that GRRM constructed his family name from those two words.
@@yinnyonline Mmmh, not really. It's easy in terms of what happens plot wise. It doesn't make writing memorable, high quality dialogs necessarily easier. I think D&D both got lost without Martin's books plot wise, and stopped fully caring about GOT at some point
The biggest irony of Janos is that despite his crippling fear of risk he keeps cuddling up to snakes as vile as himself, wrongly assuming a fellow snake will protect him.
Tyrion is known for giving traitors what they deserved. He had stupid Pycelle and Janos Slynt arrested. Too bad he didn't learn that littlefinger was the biggest traitor of all. He's the one who caused all the war and he got Tyrion in trouble twice with Bran and Joffrey. I wonder if he have the guts against Tyrion once he got him arrested.
+John Michael Gonzales It's more than likely Mandon Moore's attempt to kill Tyrion during the Battle of Blackwater was also Littlefinger's doing. The only time we see Petyr angry is when Tyrion fools him with his marriage ploy. It seems that he doesn't like being taken by surprise. Varys says of Ser Mandon " _Lord Arryn brought him to King’s Landing and Robert gave him his white cloak, but neither loved him much, I fear_ ." Jon Arryn brought Littlefinger to King's Landing at the behest of Lysa. Considering Lord Arryn's opinion of Ser Mandon, I don't think it's a stretch to say Moore was selected by Littlefinger via Lysa.
+John Michael Gonzales In the books, Tyrion is well aware that Littlefinger and Varys are the most dangerous ones, but also knows that he needs their competence on the Small Council. In fact, when Pycelle is arrested, Tyrion is rather upset, hoping he was the one to keep silent, as he knew he was the least dangerous of the three
Lol yea right. I wouldn't arrest Littlefinger, he seems to be an excellent planner. So it would be a brilliant idea to keep him. Tyrion knew how he was like all along, but he is smart and chose the right way out.
Spectacular acting. I like how it starts off cordially and casually and then the tension and comedy starts building up, until it derails entirely and inevitably goes south quickly.
1:52 "😠😡If you think I'll stand and take this from you, Dwarf!" "🙄😒Dwarf?? *scoff* 😈You should've stopped at Imp, 😠👿and yes, *you will* stand here and take it from me, unless you'd rather take it from my friend here."
This scene is great because it reminds us of a few things: 1. Bronn is not a good guy, he's funny and charismatic, but like said... a cutthroat. 2. It leaves us still uncertain if Bronn would or could actually kill a child or not. He says he would for a price, but who knows what that price could be. Maybe too high for anyone to pay him to do it.
"I found it surprisingly beautiful... in a brutal, horribly uncomfortable sort of way" Always loved that line. One of those that I try to inject into a conversation I can.
I know right, it's sooo sad to watch all these amazing scenes with brilliant dialogues when you know what the show has become ... Never thought it would go so bad, i wish i could go back to the good old days of season 2/3/4
There are three things I LOVE about this excellent scene: -One: the beginning of the comeuppance for that corrupt commander of the City Watch. -Two: every word that comes pouring out of Tyrion's mouth. -Three (and MOST IMPORTANT): the first meeting that we have with the undisputed BEST on screen squire ever = Podrick Payne.
I've always noticed that even though Tyrion knew Ned Stark's arrest benefitted his family, he always recognized the injustice of it and worked in small ways like this to right some of it.
That's true. He is also cognizant of the fact that a corrupt City Watch is bad for him -- they're the defense of the city and he needs them to be organized and disciplined. If he had left Janos and his corrupt lackeys in charge, the watch probably would have scattered in disarray when Stannis attacked at the end of the season.
He also do it out of self-preservation. He wants his man, not Cersei's man. Bronn can be as cruel, but he's on his side so he's better(however, in the books Tyrion puts someone recommanded *by Varys* as a relatively honorable person)
Another random Tristan Ser Jacelyn Bywater. I seem to remember he didn’t last very long...
@@AH-be6bu R.I.P Ser Jacelyn. Betrayed by his own man.
That's why I love this scene so much. I would never trust a man who betrayed the last hand to work alongside me either. But in a way Tyrion does care for the Starks, and he identifies that arresting him was for protection but he also knows that It was an act of betrayal. It's like Ned said, "I cant restore your dead to life, but perhaps I can give you justice."
Which in comparison, this justice isn't much, but it WAS something.
"I'm afraid it's rather a long walk to castle black"
Back in the day they didn't have teleporters like in season 6-8
Well, technology evolves. It only makes sense. I'm sure Qyburn had a hand in that.
Good one
Now they teleport and make entire fleets invisible.
@@shafo4384 and heat seeking missile
Guys its not teleporting. Its fast travelling, like skyrim.
"I am not questioning your honor. I am denying its existence." That line has me laughing so hard.
Gregson _6 Casablanca, "You don't like me very much do you." "If I gave you any thought I probably wouldn't, no." Rick.
That line is damn overwhelming.
Not even a White Walker can freeze that burn.
that whole dialogue came directly from the book. another element of martin's genius writing.
Tyrion never says things like this anymore.
Slynt: “orders are orders”
Also Slynt: disobeying orders at the wall
hahah good catch at his actions later on.
Yeah that's certainly not how you get 𝘢𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥 in life.
He’s the very definition of a coward.
He was hoping alliser thorne to stand with him but he was wrong
Hey be careful he has powerful friends!
"The streets aren't safe at night" Implying Janos was shit at his job lmao
I’m surprised Slynt didn’t end up in a bowl of brown...
Haahah right!!
Also notice how not one of the goldcloaks hesitated to haul him away? It seems Janos didn’t earn the respect of his men.
😂
Also notice how NOT* one of the goldcloaks
I love how Tyrion dismissively says: "No, we shan't."
And that's that.
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"The man was a traitor. He tried to buy my loyalty."
"A fool! He had no idea you're already bought."
*were
That was a mean burn
@@Bartooc What?
@@JamezOwnU101 he meant that it's "you were already bought" not "you're already bought"
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I love Tyrion's reaction when Bronn said "I'll ask how much" He just realized he just replaced a monster with another monster.
One that's more honest I suppose
Yeah but Bronn was at least honest about what he does. He didn't hide behind false oaths of loyalty.
Yes honest, but a monster with a different agenda nonetheless... although among all the characters Bronn is probably my favorite.
Well at least the price for it would be pretty damn high I believe. I feel like Bronn for all his love of the coin would ask for a pretty damn big price to do something like that.
@@AzraelSoulHunter pretty sure its an easy job and not far fetched.. I doubt the price would be high since He'll be killing babies and not fighting dothrakis, you know how easy it was for the city watch to do it...
"House Slynt?"
"We have friends at court!"
"A common saying but not their actual words."
Perfection
That is brilliant
Their sigil is a pushed chair
Actual words: “I am afraid. I have always been afraid.”
This is good.
Top 10 things janos slint does not have.
10. honor
9. powerfull friends in court
8. powerfull friends in the capital
7. friends in the nights watch
6. friends
5. the right to dissobey orders
4. a position on the kings guard
3. a position in the nights watch
2. courage
1. a head
Omg , I swear I haven't laughed like this in ages , dear lord , who is this person. Who cooked , roasted Janos , chewed him and spit him .😂😂😂
Perfect comment lmao
Man you killed me 🤣🤣
J: I SHALL NOT HAVE MY RIGHTS JUDGED BY A GUY WHO HAS A MORTY DP.
I almost feel bad for him.
Almost.
Back when the writing itself proved how clever Tyrion was. Not just him or others stating "Tyrion is clever" every episode.
GRRM is the god of 'show don't tell''
Unknown uk D&D on the other hand.... not so much
After reading a game of thrones. The best dialogue came from Martin. D & D had a vision for the show. Like battles and that. But writing that was all Martin’s work
Bc it was actually Martin's writing, not dumb and dumber
@@unknownuk7652 "GRRM is the god of 'show don't tell''"
You might as well have written : "i haven't read the books"
"The lads will escort you. The street aren't safe at night, my lord."
This is absolutely savage.
Indeed
Especially how bad of a job janos did
House Slynt : we have friends at courts
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House Slynt: That's a good red, Dornish?
House Slynt: I'm afraid. I've always been afraid. Mercy.
Onur Tümkaya Sigil: An empty chair pushed back in frustration
Onur Tümkaya family of Draco Malfoy? I know its a diffrent universe but still.
Who else is watching these epic scenes from earlier seasons, wishing season 8 was this good?
Doug Edgar Feel you bro
I miss the good writing
Me too, bro. I miss the good old days when GOT used to be awesome
This season is a huge disappointment.
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Janos"I have friends at court" Slynt
Janos 'I have powerful friends in the capital, you'll see' Slynt
Janos 'I'm a fat wasteman' Slynt
Janos "I will not have my honor questioned" Slynt
Janos"are u drunk" slynt
Janos "I will not have it, boy!" Slynt
This is what I love about Game of Thrones. Bronn is easy to like, because he's charismatic, funny, and helps Tyrion. Janos is easy to hate, because he's annoying and betrayed Ned. But they don't let you pretend that Bronn is a better person than Janos just because he's likeable. They make it clear that Bronn is just as much of a scumbag. They don't take the easy way out with their characters.
And then they throw the whole character development in the dumpster
*didn't. They didn't take the easy way out with their characters.
Difference with Bronn is I don't think he'd kill children although he admits he likes killing he's open about who he is whereas Slynt is a weasel.
He's not quite "just as much of a scumbag". He can be a scumbag if he's being paid enough, but he's nice the rest of the time. Janos is a scumbag whether he's being paid or not. There _is_ a moral difference between them, and Bronn is on the better side of it.
@@grayalun As shown, though Bronn wouldn't be comfortable with killing babies, a large amount of gold should be enough to convince him to do so.
For those who haven't watched it yet, I hope you enjoy Season 8.
I found it surprisingly beautiful; in a brutal, horribly uncomfortable sort of way.
Hell, I liked it.
I'm not going to lie, you've had us in the first half.
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Eh it wasn't even that bad.
@D Anemon I don't think more seasons would have helped. D&D are only good at adapting material not at writing their own staff. And since they ran out of books everything after season 4 was doomed to fail (which it did).
"I don't listen to filth."
*Murders an infant child*
When you write infant, you don't need to add child afterwards, since an infant is already a child, so you are basically writing child twice.
Always good to learn new things everyday isn't it? :)
@@PS1GamerCollector ending your correction with a condescending passive-aggressive sentence shows you're an asshole.
Always good to learn new things everyday isn't it? :)
@@92brunod And your rebuttal of him were as excellent as the writing of seasons 1-4.
Always good to learn new things every day isn't it? :)
@@PS1GamerCollector r/IAmVerySmart
@@mattireson866 Holy damn what's going on? I simply decided to correct the guy and now there is a bunch of weirdos going on a rampage in the comments section talking about passive agressiveness and assholes.
Millennials really get offended by anything damn...
The sigil of House Slynt is a shoved back chair and their words are "I have friends! Powerful friends!"
Brilliant lol
Bravo!
hahahahahah
MJSpiritual He's like Keemstar xd.
lololololol i spit out a mouth full of fruit loops and milk..thanks!
„I‘m not questioning your honor, Lord Janos. I‘m denying it‘s existance“
One of the most badass lines in the series
The way Tyrion says this line has me dying every single time. One of the funniest lines in all of GoT
And it's actually not in the book. Great addition.
Yep definitely one of Tyrion’s Best Lines. I also Loved his other Badass Quote to Janos in this scene “DWARF You should have Stopped at Imp!” We really felt him being Pissed off at Janos in that moment and he said It with such Authority! Lol.
I do so miss Tyrian now that GoT is over. I'd love to see a talk show, where Peter is in-character as Tyrion interviewing a variety of real guests. 🤣
Season 2's was so good. This is one my favorite scenes of Tyrion.
If D&D had been writing this season now, Tyrion would have made Janos Lord Paramount of the Trident because he sees some good in him and knows he can be trusted.
LMAO
D&D: Are you questioning our writing skill???
Fans: No, I'm denying its existance.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England
Tyrion would've made Janos master of coin and giving him high garden...
Or he wouldn't take away everything the Lannisters had given Slynt, because "A Lannister always pay his debts".
Well they were part of the writing in this season though. They just ran out of books around season 5
Bronn: "Without question? No. I'd ask how much."
Tyrion (internally): "You sick fuck."
At least Bronn looked guilty and upset about it. He knows what he is but he still has a conscious
@@MrKingYuji I'm sure Slynt felt *some* sort of guilt in retrospect.
In the books George RR Martin actually wrote that after that statement, Tyrion thought 'And why would I need your Allar Deem' (who did the deed with Slynt) ', Lord Slynt?... I have a hundred of my own.'
I mean it actually shows he's more moral than people like Slynt, who just blindly carries out orders no matter how horrible, he wouldn't do it unless it paid well enough. He's no saint obviously, but he's not completely heartless
@@jonttopia Yeah, the implication from it's pretty much that it'd have to be a hell of a large sum and reward for him to go along with it.
"A fool! He had no idea you were already bought!"
Bokan96 I laughed so bad at that line
Sarcasm at its best. Tyrion was a intellectual beast before season 5.
@@Christrulesall2
I think the following is Tyrion's most savage line in the entire book series and it's a shame it didn't make it in to Game Of Thrones: "Sorcery is the sauce fools spoon over failure to hide their flavor of their own incompetence".
One of the best lines in GoT.
Not so foolish. Guys like Slynt are never truly bought - only rented. Stark's mistake was he made his offer from a position of relative weakness.
"I'd ask how much."
We all grew to love Bronn as the series progressed. His witty one liners and realistic outlook on how to approach fights in general.
We all forget (especially D&D) how ruthless, unhonorable, and uncaring this character actually was.
And then D&D made this character the master of coin. Like....lol.
He is literally taking over from Littlefinger... "a grubby little job for a grubby little man". They're playing on the historic medieval dislike of "usury" and that no honourable person would be involved with it. That's why Jews were the moneylenders, the "noble lords & knights" already considered Jews bound for hell so them being coinmasters wouldn't make it any worse for them. Hence Littlefinger whoremonger, then Bronn sellsword, as MoC.
@@darthkek1953 Jews were often moneylenders because Judaism didn't make Usury a sin as Christianity did, they gained a reputation from there, not so much the other way around.
Even then, feels like Bronn was thrown onto the council just because D&D wanted to cram more fan favourites in.
@@Aldrnarii thank you for explaining to me a trivial detail of a topic I have already demonstrated a deeper reading of.
@@darthkek1953 Adding nuance is what that is called.
Also the suggestion that there is absolutely no reason to believe that is why D&D made Bron the Master of Coin, cool theory I guess but it's fan service at best.
@@Aldrnarii the three known Masters of Coin were Littlefinger (whoremonger) Tyrion (Demon Monkey Imp) and Ser Bronn (mercenary turned Knight).
If anything Bronn was the best of the three.
When my mother asks me to take out the trash:
"I have powerful friends at court!!"
The bin is under MY command!
And that moment, when your mother smacks you - "i m sorry, i dont wanna die.. i m scared.. i m always been scared"
"We shall see what father has to say about this!"
"No we shan't."
@sylvester war bringer: 😂🤣😂
@@sylvesterwarbringer8397 LOL
on Janos's gravestone
*Here lies Janos Slynt. He had powerful friends in the capital*
"The King Himself made Janos a Lord!"
His headstone may read that, but his funerals attendance was barren.
And no head here.
Wolfman HCC he didn’t get a “head” stone.
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Tyrion be like: "Yes, Slynt, you have friends at court. All I'm doing is giving you the opportunity to make friends at Castle Black also. No need to lose your head over it."
'No need to lose your head over it'
hehehehehehe nice
So clever...
Unfortunatly...he did lose it.
Oop-
I see what u did there
The way Bronn says boys to the guards makes me imagine him chilling with the city guards, cracking jokes, drinking the nights away, having all the respect of his men while still doing a stellar job without even breaking a sweat. What a chad!
And they would have a lot more respect considering what Janos did. However bronn likes to drink with the soldiers because it's amazing what stories and rumours you hear from them
There's a reason he never puts on that gold cloak
I always liked the idea that the Goldcloaks that Bronn commanded were other brigands and sellswords like him, friends he'd made or men Tyrion had recruited. A bunch of toughs in shiny armor laying down the law with brutal efficiency. Thieves? Cut em down. Murderers? Hang em high. Rapists? Off with their heads. Bronn probably had fleabottom whipped up in a frenzy because he's a slimy guy who knows where slimy business takes place so now, in a place of power, he can cut it out root and stem. Like that business with him rounding up all the known thieves and disposing of them. That was probably the most law abiding period of King's Landing's history Lmao
If I remember correctly, I think they show us that Bronn spends leisure time with the men he commands, trading stories. I could be thinking of something else, though.
With the way he talks about them later on, before the siege, it really does sound like they just go out and do whatever the fuck they want, so that's probably what happens lol
I like Bronn as much as everybody, but seriously, interactions like this one are huge signs you DO NOT include this guy in the king's council. Like, I cannot believe the show actually did that in the finale
@Wparker6804 Yeah like they picked an amazing choice for Master of Coin
And maester. I like Sam but he’s too young.
Pod shouldn’t be kings guard either
the quality of writing really dropped off in the final seasons
John Brinsmead that’s an understatement brotha. Jon was a failure , the council is a joke,
@@johnbrinsmead3316 tbh it's pretty obvious that when they ran out of book material they just had no idea wtf they were doing so we got all this later mess of bullshit
Take Lord Janos outside
+Carlos Fermín If you have any last words my lord, now is the time.
Baby, It’s Cold Outside...
+lizardking02793 IM AFRAID! IVE ALWAYS BEEN AFRAID
Olly, fetch me my sword.
If you have any last words my lord, nows the time....
I miss this smart ass Tyrion, not the one after season 4.
LaVitaNouva Bearded Tyrion sucks, let’s bring back clean shaved Tyrion.
It does somehow makes sense, we haven't seen him having proper mind exercise in years, yet we see him drink a lot.
Murdering his father and his lover ruined his sense of humour.
Aww "snowflake" how cute, no arguments so personal attacks, hes worse. ty
@@AyataHiragi he's not the same, you don't like character development?
The fact that Tyrion had the common courtesy to give him a fine feast before he shipped Slynt off to the Wall shows precisely how cunning Tyrion really was. God I miss this writing
If I recall correctly it was like this in the book as well.
@@epicfactsbooks my mouth watered at the description of the food in this scene in the books lol
@@systemofafox6487 And not just that scene. By the gods, they were descriptive with a lot of the foods whenever food was served in the books. I always get hungry when I get to those parts!
He doesn't have a full measure of Slynt yet, and uses the baby killing as a test to see his loyalty. He notices immediately that Slynt has no moral restrictions and that he refuses to disclose who gave the order. Essentially he confirms Tyrions suspicions that he betrayed Ned and won't be 100% honest/loyal with Tyrion either, and Tyrion makes that decision to send him off.
Gods the writing was strong then
Relax Janos, don't lose your head..
he's a hot head. that's why they've sent him to the wall to cool his tits. in the process he might have lost one of those.
*Anina Holkbek* HAH! Good one.
Easier said than done I'm afraid.
He’s always been afraid 😭
Yet. Don’t lose your head yet Janos...
I do love how Tyrion gave Janos justice for betraying Ned and then how Jon finishes him off with the same treatment Ned got
His death had nothing to do with Ned. It was the result of disobedience. Jon probably didn't even know what role Janos played in it (Jon was in a low position in Watch at the time). Also let's not forget about Payne.
Janos' problem was that for a soulless husk of a man he spoke too much. The last guy had no tongue. Nobody really noticed and he didn't even seem to mind. He knew his place.
That's the man you want murdering your women and children.
Poetic justice. Just beautiful
@@mariuszmiroslaw2290 who said it was?
I liked it better in the book; Tyrion bribed the ship's captain to make sure he got thrown overboard out in the middle of the sea.
"I'm not questioning your talent D&D, I'm denying its existence."
The thing is they did have talent; some of the great scenes in earlier seasons were all them. They just stopped giving a fuck.
@@scorchtongue eh I would say it was more George that is responsible for that. Sure they adapted it well for the screen, but they had a strong foundation
They were amazing at adapting the book, very bad at writing a new one. Their failure was spectacular, but tbh, I don't think anyone would have done great. It seems Martin himself has no idea how to wrap this thing up.
The Conservative Front shut the fuck up, that’s a lie, people dick suck all the show only scenes they wrote and loveee to pretend Martin, who didn’t help with these is actually adding anything
"Every time D&D make a storywriting decision, the Gods flip a coin."
"I'm not questioning your loyalty, I'm denying its existence" is one of my favorite lines from the show.
Honor*
Atheism in a nutshell.
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I was expecting error 37
(A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore, (F)ail?
Tyrion doesn't need Janos Slynt, neither does Jon Snow.
+abdallaha92 Jon Snow tried to find a use for him, but Janos was too dumb to see the opportunity.
Who needs Janos Slynt ?
abdallaha92 who needs a baby killer?
Nobody needs a coward.
The devil doesn't either, but he has nowhere else to go.
Hesitantly, Lord Janos drew out the ornament and handed it to Tyrion.
“We have goldsmiths in Lannisport who do better work,” he opined.
“The red enamel blood is a shade much, if you don’t mind my saying.
Tell me, my lord, did you drive the spear into the man’s back yourself, or did you only give the command?”
“I gave the command, and I’d give it again. Lord Stark was a traitor.”
The bald spot in the middle of Slynt’s head was beet-red, and his cloth-of-gold cape had slithered off his shoulders onto the floor.
“The man tried to buy me.”
“Little dreaming that you had already been sold.”
Slynt slammed down his wine cup.
“Are you drunk? If you think I will sit here and have my honor questioned . . .”
“What honor is that? I do admit, you made a better bargain than Ser Jacelyn.
A lordship and a castle for a spear thrust in the back, and you didn’t even need to thrust the spear.”
He tossed the golden ornament back to Janos Slynt. It bounced off his chest and clattered to the floor as the man rose.
“I mislike the tone of your voice, my lo-Imp. I am the Lord of Harrenhal and a member of the king’s council, who are you to chastise me like this?”
Tyrion cocked his head sideways.
“I think you know quite well who I am. How many sons do you have?”
“What are my sons to you, dwarf?”
“Dwarf?” His anger flashed. “You should have stopped at Imp.
I am Tyrion of House Lannister, and someday, if you have the sense the gods gave a sea slug, you will drop to your knees in thanks that it was me you had to deal with, and not my lord father. Now, how many sons do you have?”
Tyrion could see the sudden fear in Janos Slynt’s eyes.
“Th-three, m’lord. And a daughter. Please, m’lord-”
“You need not beg.”
He slid off his chair.
“You have my word, no harm will come to them. The younger boys will be fostered out as squires.
If they serve well and loyally, they may be knights in time.
Let it never be said that House Lannister does not reward those who serve it.
Your eldest son will inherit the title Lord Slynt, and this appalling sigil of yours.”
He kicked at the little golden spear and sent it skittering across the floor.
“Lands will be found for him, and he can build a seat for himself. It will not be Harrenhal, but it will be sufficient. It will be up to him to make a marriage for the girl.”
Janos Slynt’s face had gone from red to white.
“Wh-what . . . what do you . . . ?” His jowls were quivering like mounds of suet.
“What do I mean to do with you?”
Tyrion let the oaf tremble for a moment before he answered.
“The carrack Summer’s Dream sails on the morning tide.
Her master tells me she will call at Gulltown, the Three Sisters, the isle of Skagos, and Eastwatch-by-the-Sea.
When you see Lord Commander Mormont, give him my fond regards, and tell him that I have not forgotten the needs of the Night’s Watch. I wish you long life and good service, my lord.”
isnt it shit better gold?
Well done sir for writing it down
@@DavidLopez-yt2yp It's even easier when you just copy paste it.
Damn it all you did was increase the desire to reread the books. Which i didn't want to do until just before Winds of Winter came out. Which will likely be bloody never
This is the longest comment I've ever read and liked
The beauty of this scene is that you see Tyrion’s conflict at the end.
Bronn is willing to do exactly as Janus had done without question besides money. A man of similarly no conscience when it comes to orders.
The only difference is Bronns loyalty to Tyrion as opposed to Janus’ loyalty to Cersei.
which makes both Janos and Bronn the tools - so what the ‘tools’ will do depends on hands that are holding them
@@rozediana24 Instead of buying another tool, he preferred to break it.
That fact greatly disturbed Tyrion and made him glad that Bronn would never be ordered to kill an infant as long as he had been paid well.
Its a testament to Georges goal with his universe. No one is truly good. Its all a matter of perspective. Then D&D fucked all that off
@@abneraranivar346 Ned was good
171 dislikes from Lord Slynt's powerful friends in Kings Landing
508 powerful friends 😂
Sadly it's the same guy just keeps voting
@@sammysam3513 Must be powerful friends from Castle Black
Oh my god, how did he get away with that? Janos had friends at court...
E Factor Powerful friends aswell
"Powerful friends oh yes... you'll see"! God he was epically Pathetic .
Joey Wildman Powerful imaginary friends.
Tyrion didn’t really address the massive corruption in great detail occurring under Slynt watch. Bribery, extortion, graft you name it. All of the city watch guards were surrendering large portions of their pay to Slynt
Because Tyrion is powerful.
Slynt - "Are you drunk?!? Will not have my honor questioned by an imp!"
Tyrion - *(⌐■_■)* "I'm not questioning your honor, lord Janos. I'm denying its existence." _P + IMP = PIMP_
You cant spell pimp without the imp!
I love the smile on his face before he delivers his line like, "you just walked right into that one, buddy..."
#thuglife
Taqiyya is dark and full of taharrush 😄😄😄
#P+IMPequalPIMPSLAP
What's really great about this scene (and Dinklage's acting) is you can tell the way Tyrion is talking to Slynt is actually really condescending in a way, he doesn't talk to Slynt like he talks to Varys, or say Littlefinger, but rather like one might talk to a child because he knows Slynt is not a good player of a game, but a pawn, and so doesn't command the same respect would give other players.
Wow you picked up on that huh? Can you tell if people are condescending in real life? I doubt it
Tyrion's comments about Janos "knowing his wines" and "getting used to fine dinners" felt like jabs about how Janos spends more time acting like a noble than he spends doing his job.
Tyrion knew Janos posed absolutely no threat to him. Varys and Littlefinger on the other hand, were very intelligent and manipulative people with a lot of influence and power.
I’ve always felt that Tyrion treating Janos to a “very fine meal” and fine wine was him giving Janos a ‘last meal’ before sending him into exile.
Dinklage captured really Tyrion in the books. Only there he gave a hint to Bywater that they should throw him overboard lmao.
I like how Bronn smirks after Slynd shouted " THESE MEN ARE UNDER MINE COMMAND !?"
like " nah bruh ".
Love Bronn’s Troll face
"Boys?" 😏
Powerful friends who did a magnificent job covering your head at the Wall.
Oh wait.
huehuehuehuehue
And poor old Janos got to die in most ironic fashion... he killed a bastard, disdained bastards, and then was killed by a bastard. Haha fucking love Jon Snow.
He was a-head of himself 😉
Janos will never be the head of a great house
Season 8 spoilers: Tyrion gets stabbed by one of Jano’s powerful friends. The last words he hears before he dies...
*Janos Slynt sends his regards*
Godot I've heard the directors keep changing the story from the books, so I'll say maybe, maybe not, you're purpose for your comment hasn't worked well 😎
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Did you have a stroke or something?
Ghastly. no, how about you?
I think he was sarcastically pointing out that your initial comment could be perceived as the unintelligible ramblings of a stroke victim. Although, sarcasm is hard to pick up through text, so who knows.
now that would be a huge twist
I find it telling how eagerly the guards took Janos away. You'd think if Janos was the kind of commander who inspired loyalty, it would be difficult to get his men to arrest him even with orders from their new boss.
What I'm saying is i imagine Janos likely wasn't very popular among his men
from what I can remember one of the guard's was hesitant to kill one of the babies in Cersi's ordered Purge, Janos ended up doing it himself.
Im not claiming that the guards of the watch were beacons of morality, but not a lot of people are fans of infanticide. The guards were probably happy to be rid of him after that.
when it comes to soldiers, or combatant types of that era, id say the price of respect can come down to three things: loyalty, morality and strength.
janos' loyalty could be shifted by any price, making every word of honor or dignity that comes out of his mouth meaningless. he has proven himself to have no moral fiber given, without hesitation, he stabbed to death an infant in its mothers arms. and all his strengths were reliant solely on the intervention of others, which granted him no true fear or intimidation.
when you sully one of those three things, people might question your capabilities. you sully two, most people may consider themselves above you. this guy sullied all of them. theres no comparison, hes just fucking degenerate.
bronn lacks morals, but he could probably kill all of them if he wanted. and at least his loyalties are to someone with some semblance of a conscious. considerably better.
@@SnapOoooThereItIs to be fair, Bronn's loyalty is to the gold he is paid moreso than an individual. Otherwise he would have slain the Mountain for him.
@@alexthorsman3186 Yeah, but even then, Bronn doesn't pretend to agree to fight the Mountain and then back out. He's very up front with Tyrion about how it is, and he's consistent with what he's always told Tyrion.
@@roguishpaladin And I never said anything to the contrary or implied that he did, so I don't get what you are responding to.
"Janos slynt was beheaded at castle black"
Powerful friends at court: "who??"
Tyrion was a pimp in this scene. His pimp hand was strong. "I'm denying it's existence". LOL.
Pimp Hand of the King.
Ray B imp hand strong
My favorite Tyrion boss moment was when he punks those kids at castle black who tried to jump Jon then Tyrion walked in and was hilarious
Too bad he lost is until he was just another dumb midget in the season v
“What a fool - he had no idea you were already bought!”
“I’m not questioning your honour; I’m denying its existence”
“Without question? No, I’d ask how much”
Jesus Christ every line from season 1-4 is instantly quotable. Anyone else considering *just* looking at the first four seasons during rewatches? I think S4 E10 had such a perfect ending with no cliffhangers and enough ambiguity that we could have left everything to the imagination and the show would still have been perfect.
Because it was all taken straight from the books
Season 5 is from the books too, even if it took liberties with the Dorne plot
I always tell people that GoT up to season 4 was the Greatest Show Ever base on GRRM blueprints and great writing. Then within the next 4 season you had maybe 4 to 5 episodes that was some of the Greatest Episodes of any show base on it Movie Level CGI, but without Lazy Fat GRRM blueprint to follow and make better in spots the 2 Heads of The Dragon Dick in Dan & Dave couldn't write their own story or good dialogue to save their pitiful lives.
@@darth856 Season 5 is nowhere near close to the books. Not like this was. By season 5 plot threads have diverged from the books so much that it may as well be a totally different story.
@@darth856 It is very different...
"I'd ask, How much?"That was Bronn, distilled down to his essence.
This really shows why he agrees to try to murder Tyron and his brother. He is only loyal to coins
@ IMO, while he _is_ very ... "coin-motivated", I think he's not quite as ruthless as he likes to pretend.
@ naw, he actually became Tyrion's friend.
We actually see how clever Tyrion is, instead of being told a hundred times by either himself or other characters. Show, don’t tell.
yes, but Sansa Is the most clever person in Westeros.
@@kboid5919 hahahahaaahaha
@@kboid5919 - but she knew about grain and breastplates. That makes her a genius, dontcha know?
Show, don't tell! Sounds like something that could get you arrested even in kings landing. No wonder you're admonishing them not to tell!
@@kboid5919 but she was abused, that makes you smart.
"I'm denying its existence" daamn
Fucking Night's King ain't gonna be able to cool that burn down.
“I’m not questioning your honor, I’m denying its existence.”
Damn, that roast could have melted the Wall...
I have to admit the sharp tongue of Tyrion was one of my favorite parts of the show! He really knew how to cut someone down to size. I would have loved seeing him trade insults with Lady Olenna!
She didn't give him the chance to start. "Out of my way, dwarf!"
I was told you were drunk, impertinent, and thoroughly debauched. You can imagine my disappointment at finding nothing but a browbeaten bookkeeper.
(Lyanna Mormont has entered the chat)
Well they did share one scene arguing about the wedding, remember
@@analauramorelrocha2383 It was more of a sly compliment.
Me watching the final season of Game of Thrones:
"Nasty business, had to be done."
i liked season 8. But season 7 was crap
🤔🤔🤔
@@Predestinated1 wow. You probably only watched seasons 7 and 8
@@PeterPranker1 he was destined to it!!!
Good comment
"I hope you enjoy the wall. I found it surprisingly beautiful, in a brutal, horribly uncomfortable sort-of way." Hahahaha
Tyrion forgot... & Brutally COLD!
He described the walk to the wall, not the wall itself, though it could apply to that as well.
@@annoyed707 why would he describe a walk. everyone knows what a walk is like. you are wrong, he is describing the wall.
Someone's future is not so bright😂😂😂
@@blutwurst4360 cuz its a long walk which contain hill tribes and maybe wildlings and stuff
"Lets write the dialogues as close to the original source material as possible" = This
"Lets write the dialogues ourselves, how hard can it be?" = "She is our queen"
yohr mai qween
"i don't want it"
I mean... This is absolutely not close to the book at all. Not faithful in the least. A few lines were kept but most were changed.
@@israfielvalhorn6460 The best were picked & kept, some slightly modified to give even more edge.
Light Avalon they were adapted, and they fit really well.
I think the did a really good job with this scene, but they omitted two of the best parts:
First, Janos Slynt is low born and doesn't know wine at all. As Tyrion notices, the man takes big gulps of fancy wine and doesn't seem to believe in sipping. Which I found so funny (plus the actor they picked is perfect for the role).
Second, during the supper, Slynt brings him a list of six men to replace him as head of the city watch. He strongly suggests Allar Deem (which is the one who kills the baby in the brothel), because he does what is asked without ever questioning it. Once Slynt is taken away by the guards, Tyrioñ is like:
"It's a long voyage, and Lord Slynt will want for company. See that these six join him on the Summer's Dream (the ship)."
"There's one," Tyrion said quietly. "Deem, tell the captain it not be taken amiss if that one should happen to be swept overboard before they reach Eastwatch"
"- I'm told those northern waters are very stormy, my lord".
Such a good dialogue.
I remember that. So good.
I can’t remember but does Deem actually get thrown overboard?
@@thedemonhater7748 I don't think it's ever confirmed or denied, but strongly implied.
😂 Tyrion is ruthless
Janos should live a long and happy life at the Wall
Krisb BeatS Well... should have...
+xxlCortez He shouldn't have lost his head when speaking to the lord commander... though that's what he gets for sticking his neck out... :P
+Krisb BeatS Or...not lol
+Krisb BeatS only to be decapitated. yeah his life was long and happy all right.
+Jaegar Ultima game of thrones for you. usually revenge is dealt is strange ways
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Janos Slynt : "These men are in MY command!"
Bronn : "Do you feel in command?"
Slynt: „I have friends in court!“
Bronn: „And that gives you power over me?“
@@thomass.4007 'The guards betray you, because they belong to me'
@@thee_morpheus Slynt: what is this?
@@thomass.4007 Bruh
Wise move Tyrion.
In the books he regrets not killing him because he sent him to stay with Jon
***** Really? Jon took care of Slynt anyway.
I actually was reading the books recently, and I think I like how Martin wrote this scene better than the TV writers did, but you can't just introduce new characters like he did in a TV show. Basically they dumbed it down for the TV audience but what can you do.
In the book there was actually a purpose for the dinner, he basically got all the people that Janos had recommended (bad men) and dismissed them to the wall too. The TV show scene seems a bit rushed to me and now that I rewatched it I see that actually.
Plus when I read the book I felt bad for Janos. In the show he is just shown as a jerk, but in the book it mentions how he has a family, and points out just how stupid he really is. So it's less that he is a jerk, more of an idiot that bit off more than he could chew.
Yeah, in the books Slynt doesn't kill the baby, some other guard does, Tyrion has the guard killed, thrown into the sea I think
I don't think it's dumbed down, I think it's more streamlined. Inserting a one-scene-wonder character in a TV show would cost much more than in a book. Anyway, these parts in the show illustrated the measures Tyrion took in order to keep his "bosom free of arses" (lifted from Blackadder) fairly well in my opinion, I don't think there was much need to elaborate on them further.
Dinklage knocked it out of the park with his acting here. The subtle tone and face expression changes were phenomenal.
I found it surprisingly beautiful... in a brutal, horribly uncomfortable sort of way.
That “No, we shan’t” never gets old 😂,
"I'm not questioning you honor, Lord Janos im denying it's existence" lmao
Theo T. white lotus
Jason Carbon Apparently so.
Theo T. One of the best and fitting lines. No honor in baby killing
OH SNAP!!!!
Savage :)
- "Seeing as you betrayed the last Hand of the King, well I just wouldn't feel safe with you lurking about." End quote
Haha. Flawless delivery. Candid, accurate and concise
Janos Slynt, the king of standing up and pushing his chair back and shouting.
We know no king but the King in the North, whose name is Stark.
"Without question? No, I'd ask 'how much?'"
Well I guess that proved true.
Bronn stares at him for a moment and that looks says it all. Thinking about what kind of man he is. Wondering at the kind of man who’d order such a thing. Then accepting the truth.
@@sebcruz9197 I like that Bronn felt bad about it but ultimately admitted that he most likely would
Everything is a transaction to Bronn... He always delivers... if you can pay the price.
Whenever things don’t go my way, I always tell them about my friends at court. Powerful friends.
Works everytime!
@@Atthetta YEAH, THEY'LL SEE!
Lmao!
This scene is such a masterpiece I'm laughing in joy. The way Janos feels more and more uncomfortable as Tyrion slowly attacks him, Tyrions mocking tone and his "No, we shan't", Bronn's smirk when Janos yells his tirade. Amazing. I will rewatch the first four seasons at earliest convinience
Season 1-4 is peak television
That last quote really shows that Bronn isn't a good person. And the look that Tyrion gives one of his only friends when he realises the length that Bronn would go to for money ;-;
yep that's kinda why everyone loves to watch bronn though, he's sort of an anti hero...he's not morally good, but he's likable.
***** Mhmm
It still says a lot about him. Slynt did it for free. Bronn would require the right price. I imagine it would be a high price too. So despite all, Bronn is still the better man.
+Hal Jordan "you fucking idiot." That opener tells me this won't be mentally stimulating. If you look at my post again, you'll see that I never said he was a good man.
I'm undecided where Bronn stands on a moral scale. He's pretty much stated he'd do just about anything for the right price, but really we've never seen him act particularly evil, so we don't know how high that price might be.
Bronn is like Tywin in that regard. Both will stop at nothing to obtain what they want. In Tywin's case, he's motivation is his family's status. In Bronn's case, it's the promise of gold and power.
Best part is, how many of those City Watch fellas served under Slynt and hated his guts as well? They probably lined up to volunteer to drag him to the ship.
Naomi Armitage yeah the other guy couldn't bring himself to kill that baby and then watched as janos did it without hesitation
He moved up at the wall in much the same way he did in King's Landing; he was a textbook sycophant, and a sly one at that. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that GRRM constructed his family name from those two words.
This ain't a game and Imping ain't easy.
I love how Bronn was lurking in the shadows during this entire interaction😂
Tyrion acted on behalf of Tywin in this matter. His father told him to get rid of Janos when he sent him to kings landing.
+Andrwei Joghansan why would Tywin say that?
In books Tywin actually questioned this decision.)
Wasn't that in the book and not in the TV show?
Superfireben I believe so
Slynt was a perfect Lannister puppet, there was no reason to get rid of him. Out of Tywins point of view anyway.
“And I just wouldn’t feel safe with you lurking about” is for some reason my most remembered line of all of GOT.
GoT fans to D&D : I’m not questining your writing skill,I’m denying its existance
How do you square that with the writing of this scene, which echoes the scene in Martin's book, but with different dialogue?
@@fredocarroll closely following a template is a hell of a lot easier than writing your own story
@@yinnyonline Mmmh, not really. It's easy in terms of what happens plot wise. It doesn't make writing memorable, high quality dialogs necessarily easier. I think D&D both got lost without Martin's books plot wise, and stopped fully caring about GOT at some point
I love their small talk in the beginning. The dialogue actually felt like it was from a certain class of a different time period.
This guy really liked suddenly jumping up from his seat in anger.
The biggest irony of Janos is that despite his crippling fear of risk he keeps cuddling up to snakes as vile as himself, wrongly assuming a fellow snake will protect him.
Tyrion is known for giving traitors what they deserved. He had stupid Pycelle and Janos Slynt arrested. Too bad he didn't learn that littlefinger was the biggest traitor of all. He's the one who caused all the war and he got Tyrion in trouble twice with Bran and Joffrey. I wonder if he have the guts against Tyrion once he got him arrested.
Who would ever suspect a guy from a minor house?
+John Michael Gonzales It's more than likely Mandon Moore's attempt to kill Tyrion during the Battle of Blackwater was also Littlefinger's doing.
The only time we see Petyr angry is when Tyrion fools him with his marriage ploy. It seems that he doesn't like being taken by surprise.
Varys says of Ser Mandon " _Lord Arryn brought him to King’s Landing and Robert gave him his white cloak, but neither loved him much, I fear_ ." Jon Arryn brought Littlefinger to King's Landing at the behest of Lysa. Considering Lord Arryn's opinion of Ser Mandon, I don't think it's a stretch to say Moore was selected by Littlefinger via Lysa.
+John Michael Gonzales In the books, Tyrion is well aware that Littlefinger and Varys are the most dangerous ones, but also knows that he needs their competence on the Small Council. In fact, when Pycelle is arrested, Tyrion is rather upset, hoping he was the one to keep silent, as he knew he was the least dangerous of the three
Jaime pushing a kid out of window started the war
Lol yea right. I wouldn't arrest Littlefinger, he seems to be an excellent planner. So it would be a brilliant idea to keep him. Tyrion knew how he was like all along, but he is smart and chose the right way out.
Spectacular acting. I like how it starts off cordially and casually and then the tension and comedy starts building up, until it derails entirely and inevitably goes south quickly.
Which mirrors the scene where Janos dies!
That cheeky little grin from Bronn when Slynt tries to give an order is everything
1:46 not even Peter Dinklage could resist reacting to the awesomeness of Tyrion's comeback.
''I'm not questioning your loyalty Lord Janos...I'm denying it's existence.'' Will never get sick of that line :)
1:52 "😠😡If you think I'll stand and take this from you, Dwarf!"
"🙄😒Dwarf?? *scoff* 😈You should've stopped at Imp, 😠👿and yes, *you will* stand here and take it from me, unless you'd rather take it from my friend here."
It's been over 10 years and we're all still searching for friends of Janos Slynt.
I'm not questioning your honor Lord Janos, I'm denying its existence. Badass
Slynt’s powerful friends in court:
The court jester
The court bard who had his tongue cut out
The dwarf actors who performed in the purple wedding
"The court jester"
Don't underestimate Moon Boy. He's one of Varys's spies and he's fucked the queen
I like to think that the gold cloaks who "escorted"janos were chosen specifically over theor hatred for slynt killing the babies
This scene is great because it reminds us of a few things:
1. Bronn is not a good guy, he's funny and charismatic, but like said... a cutthroat.
2. It leaves us still uncertain if Bronn would or could actually kill a child or not. He says he would for a price, but who knows what that price could be. Maybe too high for anyone to pay him to do it.
ISTM that's exactly what *he* wants, to leave Tyrion wondering.
THANK THE GODS FOR LORD SNOW
+Jerry Green There's only one god.
+Alberto Einstein
Allah
+Alberto Einstein And I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that.
+Brian Mead He meant me
Fuck Allah. The one and almighty Tyrion is the only God.
I love tyrion and his wit
"I found it surprisingly beautiful... in a brutal, horribly uncomfortable sort of way"
Always loved that line. One of those that I try to inject into a conversation I can.
“Without question? No. I’d ask how much.”
Still can’t believe this kind of writing was in the same show as the later seasons.
Man, I really miss this kind of dialogue in the series.
I know right, it's sooo sad to watch all these amazing scenes with brilliant dialogues when you know what the show has become ... Never thought it would go so bad, i wish i could go back to the good old days of season 2/3/4
“Eastwatch by The Sea”. Such a satisfying phrase.
Like "Martha's Vineyard", but with ice zombies.
There are three things I LOVE about this excellent scene:
-One: the beginning of the comeuppance for that corrupt commander of the City Watch.
-Two: every word that comes pouring out of Tyrion's mouth.
-Three (and MOST IMPORTANT): the first meeting that we have with the undisputed BEST on screen squire ever = Podrick Payne.
Best quote in Season One: “I’m not questioning your honor; I’m denying its existence!”
Best quote in Season 8: “muh queen”
This is Season 2.