Tyrion Plays The Game Of Thrones [HD]
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2012
- In his effort to expose deception in the Small Council, Tyrion orchestrates a deception of his own.
The editing in this scene is brilliant as it skips through the three conversations.
"The queen mustn't know..."
From S02E03 - Розваги
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Varys didn't believe him for a single instant, he knew it was a trick.
the one he told varys is the least believable one haha. LIke I could actually see tyrion trying to get an alliance of marriage with lysa but really the greyjoys? theirs no way varys believed that.
Nikolaj Vsevolodovič I grew up with actors. My little birds and I both know when a tale is being told. A pity that "Reek" shan't be able to marry Myrcella now that she has moved on, not that he could perform the necessary ritual to bear a child anyway.
Nikolaj Vsevolodovič a trick, a shadow on the wall
he made an intentional one at that point for some reason.
I don't think Baelish did either, only Pysell was stupid enough to accept the story he was being told at face value
Tyrion: "I plan to marry Marcella off to Theon Greyjoy."
Varys: "Is this season 8, my lord?"
Tyrion: "... no?"
Varys: "Then I don't believe you."
Lmao good one
this show only made it to season 6
*Myrcella
@@nomadhakunamatata5793 season 5 is fan fiction aswell
@@nomadhakunamatata5793 to season 4, after that it's only D&D fiction
I love how Varys' face drops from "Ooh a new song for me!" to "By the gods this is the dumbest idea I've ever heard."
I felt this same before season 8.
Varys instantly saw Tyrions game lol
Tyrion's little smirk to Varys before he launches into the ruse gives it away on purpose, why he even wasted time playing this ruse with the two honest ones we'll never know, probably just for show writing. You could even tell it was corny as you were watching it in real time
@@iditarod4081 But he didn't know who the honest ones were before this, this ruse was meant to determine who he can trust.
Tyrion tried the most obvious lie with Varys. It's very likely Varys knew
What I love about this is you already get a glimpse of who is the spy.
Varys and Petyr instantly challenge Tyrion on his secret ("Theon fights for Robb" and "Lysa imprisoned you")
Pycelle instead accepts it, without question.
That's also because there are obvious arguments against Theon and Robyn. There were, at that point, no arguments against allying with the Tyrells. On the other hand, it was actually very sensible.
@@GardEngebretsen martell, not tyrell. The former have a specific thirst for lannister blood so that right there is a very very good argument not to send her to dorne. Honestly think that choice was a bit out of character for tyrion like how does that not end up with her head on a spear.
@@brrr375 I think that was the point., Tyrion advertised Intentionally horrible and otherwise disastrous Ideas, sugared them up to make them look good. to see which of them would try to have a slice of the cake.
(Not to mention Myrcella really did get sent to dorne, and did literally get murdered which goes to show just how truly bad that idea was.)
And in either of the other two scenarios, Myrcella would have ended up a hostage of various degrees.
@@battle00333 Her death was mostly a product of the overall stupidity of the Dorne plot of season 5 though. Prince Doran wouldn't allow her to be killed and get killed himself that easily if the writers cared at all about Dorne
@@domskillet5744 actually quite a good explanation thank you
varys' face after he heard the greyjoys is priceless
He's a fucking genius, Varys is. "Seven hells... may the gods have mercy."
He knew right away Tyrion was playing him because no way he would come up with such a dumb plan. The only reason LF kept his mouth shut was because it was a good plan this was before he had the idea to wed ugly duckling himself. I have a feeling Tyrion already knew who the traitor was that is why he gave the real plan to Pycelle because he knew it was going to leak.
Anu idiot, LF confronts Tyrion after and gets mad
Or he was going to actually follow through with whoever told Cersei. Could have made for quite an amusing situation if EVERYONE told her so Cersei hears her daughter is going to be wed off to three different people.
In the books he tells him he's going to make Tommen a ward of (either the Arryns or the Martells--I can't remember.)
The show changed it to betrothing Myrcella to Theon because it'd be _less confusing,_ not because it was a better plan.
lol I like how Varys instatntly realizes how shit of an idea it is to marry Myrcella off to Theon
+kamalamasama Well out of all the 3 Theon was just a dumb move with little win.
+Stannis Baratheon I think it shows that Tyrion knows Varys wouldn't care either way because he's got priorities being a spider.
"Oh... wow, Myrcella is going to have one *really* disappointing honeymoon."
Tyrion sounds like he feels guilty for how stupid it sounds.
"♪ Reek, Reek it rhymes with leek, you must not forget your name! ♫"
You notice how uncomfortable Littlefinger is to be part of someone else’s plans because he’s the one that usually does most of the scheming.
Tyrion season 1-4: 200 iq
Tyrion season 6-8: 002 iq
4-6?
Yusuf Kasman just 5
G.R.R.M. IQ : 240
D&D IQ : 100
Tyrion became dung ever since got his homeless man beard and never shaved it so he stayed dumb for the rest of the series
holy shit he was strategy back then. now all about emotion haha.
Seeing Tyrion outwit Littlefinger is still one of the most satisfying moments of the season.
Yeah, it's awesome. Haven't seen the season in a while but in the books when Littlefinger finds out he was used he gets extremely pissed haha
+TheBlackPhoenix100 Well, Littlefinger won in the end... framing him for the king's murder and all. And he successfully got away with framing him for Bran's attempted murder, even though Tyrion is aware of what he did.
Jold I don't think Little finger actually wanted to frame tyrion. She and olenna only wanted to get rid of joffrey,tyrion being framed was probably an accident. But hey it all worked out for him in the end. He is now hand to a queen who is inarguably the most powerful person in westeros right now
Redwolf 19k He didn't frame him but I just *know* he anticipated Tyrion being one Cersei's main suspects. He is aware of her tunnel vision once she gets angry.
It's hard to say whos smarter...
Tyrion being a genius in working out who he can trust, great move here
+Mich 1404 YESSSS
+Mich 1404 Not working out who he can trust per se, but who he definitely could not trust (in particular who would betray him to his sister). After this I doubt he believed he could truly trust Varys or Baelish.
+Bucketheadhead a very good point there dude
+Mich 1404 Cheers
Ton :D
And now in season 8, Tyrion is trusting Cersei to honour a millitary alliance with Deanerys.
Oh how I miss good writing.
xrx0R 9 ahahah ! Very good point !
And after that they decided to make Sansa smarter than Tyrion. She became suddenly super-intelligent who know how to play the game of thrones more than everyone(Varys,Tyrion,etc.). Even though she's never read a book in her life like Tyrion... WTF.
Eddison Tollett
It’s not that Sansa is all that smart, it’s the fact that Tyrion is suddenly an idiot.
@@MK-ms4uz D&D ARE IDIOT.
Maybe it actually is good writing depicting the downfall of an alcoholic.
Littlefinger's facial expressions from 3:08 to 3:16 are amazing. He genuinely looks like he's thinking about what he can gain from this, what trick Tyrion could be pulling. Aidan Gillen was perfect for the role
Aidan Gillen is a monster actor. They really brought heavy hitters for Game of Thrones. Too bad it ends with high school students writing a fanfic for season 6-8.
90% of GOT community Fanfic wouldve be better than what we got
@@tokyworld having known him as the mayor from the Wire I was really excited for this role. After S1 I read the books and Petyr became my favorite character. Even copped it as a username on a certain social media platform in full. His death absolutely disgusted me, he would never have been that dumb or done any of those actions in person. Just silly nonsense to write him off because they didn't have anything smart planned out
*Edit* same with Varys, his death was unbelievably dumb and out of character
The Wire is generally considered GOAT tv show, and this dude is in it too. How crazy's that!?
The shifty eyes he's always thinking and scheming lol
Varys knew Tyrion was full of shit right away.
Tyrion also gave Varys the most ridiculous lie, knowing Varys be the least likely to betray him anyways. He gave Pycelle the most reasonable option, since he figured Pycelle was the one spying for the Queen
It wasn't so much a "find the traitor" as a "expose the traitor"
Rollschue B
He didn't.
Who would marry that Reek anyway ;)
Good point, never noticed that. He just did it to be absolutely certain. I wonder if there had been more than one, for instance Baelish and Pycelle, if it would still work. Probably, the Queen would just be like, "I've heard of your different plans for my daughter. Robyn Arryn or Trystane Martell, really?"
+Poulie0001 this was way before the reek thing, and before he betrayed the Starks
The person who plays Pycelle does not get nearly enough credit but it's understandable. This show is so high quality that the spectacular supporting cast is rarely center stage. That man kills it every time though.
Doin AThing Forreal sometimes forget I’m watching people acting
He's General Veers of the Galactic Empire.
Yeah, I actually think the older supporting cast of actors are where GOT shines. The younger cast are pretty mediocre in comparison. It's not too dissimilar to how Harry Potter was.
I absolutely despised the character, but I suppose that’s the sign of an actor doing his job as Pycelle is clearly meant to be a snake in human form.
Loved seeing him finally meet his maker, they sure made us wait for it.
Time2LevelUp well jack gleeson was pretty talented from what i saw.
I like how this scene perfectly highlights how different these 3 extremely intelligent men react:
Pycelle, being the faking actor actor that he is, doesnt break his "dumb old guy" persona for a second, and just accepts the dumb idea without any arguing, because hes going to tell Cersei anyway.
Varys, being the master strategist and tactical genius that he is, immediatly figures out that its bullshit, and doesnt even think for a moment that Tyrion is actually serious.
Littlefinger, being the selfish manipulator that he is, takes it at face value and immediatly brainstorms what he and Tyrion could potentially gain from actually following it through.
Really shows their motives too.
Pycelle is snitch, varys thinks of the realm first and little fck looks for profit even tho he knows tyrion is just playing a game
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I love the look on Vary’s face when he says “Theon Greyjoy.” It’s a perfect “have you lost your f’ing mind” look. 😂
He gives him the most preposterous story because deep down, he knows he can trust Varys. Even Cersei might laugh, but this also gives Varys the most room to spin spin spin. It's like a blank check.
He gives Pycelle the juiciest lie because he kinda knows he'll rat, but wants this message above all to go to cersei (practice round).
He gives littlefinger the most hair-brained scheme but baits the carrot, to see how much he'll jump... and boy does he.
Not just finding the rat, but measuring everyone's character and capability. Tyrion already suspects Littlefingers can work miracles but now he *knows* he can, and that he has an incredible in at a certain region. Varys will spin, he might make a miracle out of nothing. And pycelle? Well he gave the big fat rat a big fat cheese to bring home so he'd do it *quickly*, so he can pay attention to what the other two string together.
This was layered, it's great.
Tyrion explains his plan to the 3 men and they're like:
Varys- da fuk?....if you say so
Littlefinger- I don't believe you, but I'm stealing your idea and putting my own twist on it later..........
Pycelle- You can totally trust me to not tell the Queen (.......tells the Queen)
I love this scene since it also shows the personalities of the small council off the bat
the whole point of this scene is for Tyrion to figure out which of them are leaking his plans to cersei... that's why he tells them each different things and then Cersei talks to tyrion about myrcella and dorne so he knows its pycelle he cant trust
It's called a 'Canary Trap' - used in modern politics today. Trump did this often in the Whitehouse - the number of people he fired from his Admin were precisely the result of so called "leaks". They weren't... it's how you test allies in your own little circles.
Pycelle never had the makings of a varsity ladder climber
@@TD_JR I think you're vastly overestimating how willing Trump is to intentionally make bad rumors about himself.
And how adept he is at politics for that matter, but that's more debateable.
Tyrion wasn't expecting a "what's in it for me." Lol fucking littlefinger...
+Castro & 18th I think he was. He had a ready, quick response.
Castro & 18th he wouldn't give away harrenhal without thinking about it beforehand
Castro & 18th I don't think you could ever talk to Littlefinger about anything without expecting a "what's in it for me?"
Kyle Pitts Shouldn't expect any response now.
Seriously though, that's kind of a fucked up thing to say to the acting Hand of the King... What was he, about to tell Tyrion no without Harenhal?
I like how you can literally see Varys's expression change from "Ooh, I get to play the game!" to "WTF bro. If you're gonna lie to me, at least make it believable"
Tyrion: "The queen mustn't know!"
Varys: "Oooo. The queen mustn't know. I love conversations that begin this way."
Love Varys, such a good side character.
I love how Peter almost breaks character at that scene.
I mean he’s basically a main character. Him and Littlefinger are what drives the plot forward
@@dutchvanderlinde346 exactly what i was thinking. Bold to call him a side character when he was responsible for half the events in the show
Side character? That’s disrespectful to one of the best characters in the show. He is a main character and was until season 4. After season 4 the show went downhill exactly when Varys went downhill. A coincidence? No.
Varys and Littlefinger are HUGE characters in both the books and the show. Wouldn't quite call him a side character.
Somewhat ironic that Cersei committed a blunder similar to Ned's, showing her hand once she was informed of something.
And similarly that blunder was connected to the concern of the safety of her children.
Actually, Ned didn't blunder in the books. At least not that much. He had a reasonable plan. But Sansa betrayed him and told Cercei that her father is sending them away and planning something she doesn't know.
Cercei was alerted by that. And made her move
wtf .. sansa did that?
Yup... In the books... Sansa was dumber and more concerned about her pride in the books...
Characters in the books have a darker shade of grey...
chotu77 jeez that pisses me off so much what happened to her when the other characters found out in the book
1:26 love that smirk he gives Varys. They both know whats going on, but play the part anyways. Tyrion didn't even bother with a good lie on this one since there was no point. God these two were so cool together.
It looks like Peter trying to not break character
Fairly sure he’s trying not to laugh over how Varys’ actor delivered that line
See this is what I believe also. People say he was ''breaking character'' but with this budget of a show, and pre-show readings that does not make sense. They would not have kept an accidental chuckle from Tyrion in there.
He was smiling and pointing at the wine glass with his eyes, that s why it came as a chuckle, he didn t break character
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Varys INSTANTLY was like “aiight I know for a FACT you’re just fucking with me.” 😂
I get a kick out of seeing Tyrion nearly crack up and break character when Varys in an overly camp way says ''Oooh, the queen mustn't know!'' at 1:21
It makes me laugh every time to think how much fun these two had with every scene they were in. They had such brilliant dialog, I hope there are more great scenes for them in Series 6.
+greypilgrim228 Well the first one was certainly great!
Well, they both lack something to make them whole. Tyrion lacked height and Varys, well, he lacked something else aside from hair...
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I know what you mean but that's not what "breaking character" means in the context of acting. That little smile of Tyrion is a characteristic of Tyrion, showing that the character even he finds it hard to stay serious, but it's not a character breaking by the actor Dinklage; it is consistent with the character of Tyrion.
Well....
Tyrion: So Myrcella will it be; Bachelor #1, Bachelor #2, or Bachelor #3?
LOL
+Kevin Murphy
Bachelor 1: Trystane Martell
Kevin Murphy
LONNDA WANT TO CHOOSE
#3 my lord
Bachelor #1 is a Dornish Prince whose family are either lethal killers or cautious wimps. Meet Trystane Martell!
Bachelor #2 is an Ironborn who enjoys archery and fucking anything that moves. Meet Theon Greyjoy!
Bachelor # 3 is the Lord of the Vale who lives with his mother in the Eerie and has the physical strength of a damp sponge. Meet Robin Arryn!
Tyrion's game of "who can I trust" was a clever thing. Until he revealed to all 3 (Pycelle, Varys, LF) that he was testing their loyalty all along. "The queen mustn't know!" The only way to play would have been to never let them know they were getting played. He already knew he could not trust Littlefinger, he needed no game to realize that. But Pycelle was a wild card. So once he knew Pycelle was telling the queen everything, the only thing to do was never reveal that. And keep feeding Pycelle false information while letting him believe he was trusted completely. Instead Tyrion creates a powerful enemy that comes back to bite him (at the trial for Joffrey's murder).
Even season 2 Tyrion makes mistakes. But unlike season 6-8 Tyrion, he's not defined by them.
Yes, you're right. Littlefinger and Varys, both being a member of the small council, the same council that Pycelle belongs to would definitely NOT tell Pycelle about Tyrion's decision.
Ultimately he couldn’t do all 3, also he’s testing them differently.
With Littlefinger he knows he can’t be trusted, the test is really about whether/what actions will motivate him. Tyrion’s next plot is probably framed the way it is since he then knows Littlefinger cares about Catlyn and/the river lands.
Which powerful enemy who came back to bite him? Pycelle? he's a weak old man he never amounted to anything
@@iditarod4081 Pycelle’s spiteful testimony helped get Tyrion exiled
Varys, Tyrion, and little finger are the real reasons I fell in love with GOT. The back and forth between those three being the most intelligent people in the realm was always a delight to hear.
Until Tyrion became Daenary's Eunuch and court jester with an IQ of 5
@@vja1970and varys becoming a messager for no reason
Remember when the show had the best writing on television? Good times.
It honestly hurts seeing how much Game of Thrones has gone downhill :(
Dr Draconian "Best writing" is quite a stretch but it's definitely top-tier, yes.
I see your everywhere.
It's clear that many people want the rest to know how bad the show has become :/
Because they followed the books.
All they had to do during the earlier seasons was to make a good screenplay because they already have a good story.
Now that they make their own, it became trash.
Mr. BeanLaden is it their fault now? How can they follow the books if there are no more books.
That's how you handle the politics in King's Landing. People like Ned Stark are too trusting and honor bound to be Hand of the King.
Ned Stark wouldn't survive modern day politics much better the only difference is that with modern era politics instead of being executed you are just disgraced and forced to retire
Z N He possibly could've handled it, only if he knew the true nature of those in King's Landing.
The nature of people, really.
yeah the game doesn't work in the North so Ned never had to learn it, Sansa kept her head down and so she picked it up
@@hexmaniacciaran
Bolton seems enough talented for the "game" and they are a North family.
0:55 Pycell is a terrible liar
"ᴼʰ ʸᵉˢ, ʸᵉˢ. ᶦⁿᵈᵉᵉᵈ ʰʷᵘᵍʰm, (sharp inhale) ʸᵉˢ. I shall be silent, as the grave."
Lmaooo
Lmao
I think at this point Tyrion felt most safe about Varys, so he told him the most unconvincing proposal of the three. Varys saw through it immediately because marrying Myrcella to Theon is a ludicrous plan lol
Still not as ludicrous a plan going over the wall to capture a zombie.
@@HOTD108_ Well shit you got me there. Marrying Myrcella to Theon is actually genius and I know that because Tyrion is smart.
@@domskillet5744 "tyrion is smart but not that smart I guess" - peter dinkladge, circa 2019 ad
"I could sing this song to Lysa, if I cared to."
He truly lives up to his sigil.
The Bible is truth. Please read at least Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. The important part is combining the reading with the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness is the thing that makes it all click. To be forgiven we must forgive. The key is our parents. They’ve loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing, etc. we all build up grievances there. Actually dealing with those issues, and genuinely forgiving from within is what makes it all click. Seriously,
When Tyrion says he wants Myrcella to wed Theon Greyjoy the expression on Varys face is completely priceless.
Tyrion hated Theon's guts which probably made Varys more doubtful.
... Forgive me Lord, but ...?
I laughed for what felt like five minutes.
Even Tyrion felt kinda embarrassed, he knew its a shit idea but he had to lie
@@PRubin-rh4sr had a good poker face on though.
"Tyrion... After all this time... YOU were HBO: The Game of Thrones"
Best line in the series
*sigh* bravo vince...
What a masterclass. He tested them with what he already knew about them. He wanted his plan to be told to cersei, that's why he told Pycelle, he knew he was loyal to the Lannisters, and wanted to use it both as a test to fully prove it, do away with Pycelle, and actually wed Myrcella to the Dornish.
He told Varys the dumbest plan of all because he knew Varys would spot it in an instant and do nothing about it, and realize tyrions playing a game. Which was a test for Tyrion to see both how smart he was and "loyal" Varys could be to him.
He told Baelish the lie that would benefit Baelish the most, to prove that not only does Baelish only serve himself, but that he could get Baelish to go with any of his schemes if he gave Baelish enough promises of rewards for going along with it, even if Baelish doubted Tyrions honesty or intentions.
I swear baelishs voice changed
Every season it seems.
his accent got a lot thicker not quite fooking thick but still
I mean what do you expect from the Mayor of Baltimore
Doctor Pycelle, I'm Baltimore.
TheAdvocate619 It has a few times
Littlefinger's over-inflated ego is his Achilles heel.
Yep so true like Cersei he think's he's smarter than he actually is, the only difference is he's a very good manipulator and very patient defo not to be underestimated
@@elmtutch1992 Literally?
@@wickedwitchoftheeast88 he is smarte in book ya know
Cersei and littlefinger are similar in some way. The difference is status
@@brianmayabella5992 Littlefinger is smarter than her, come on
I like how genuinely honored Littlefinger was to be trusted by Tyrion.
The Bible is truth. Please read at least Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. The important part is combining the reading with the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness is the thing that makes it all click. To be forgiven we must forgive. The key is our parents. They’ve loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing, etc. we all build up grievances there. Actually dealing with those issues, and genuinely forgiving from within is what makes it all click. Seriously,
@@jamesmayle3787I only believe in the seven
1:35 for Varys' priceless reaction
The Bible is truth. Please read at least Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. The important part is combining the reading with the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness is the thing that makes it all click. To be forgiven we must forgive. The key is our parents. They’ve loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing, etc. we all build up grievances there. Actually dealing with those issues, and genuinely forgiving from within is what makes it all click. Seriously,
If Marcella had gone to the Vale she would still be alive.
Lysa Arryn is the LAST person anyone would want as their mother in law.
But technically the offspring of Maicella and Robin would be the heir to the throne and the heir to the Lannister holding. I see how eventually Maicella would be gone either way, though.
She would have meet sansa but she is in a undercover life, and she also would not be marry Robin, because littlefinger has a grand plan in the book version.
Lets look at it this way Myrcella was dead either ways, but by going to Dorne she had some great years away from the nut job of a mother, she had nice summer romance with a handsome prince in a beautiful country with great weather, food and wine. She was happy if you are going to die there is no better way, at the vale she would be miserable and then died.
Lsya was willing to throw her own niece down the moon door
If you're good at something, never do it for free. LITTLEFINGER !
The joker :D
The Dark Knight joker that is.
He followed joker's advise seriously
@@venugopal9107 more like he gave the joker that advice
Both are agent of chaos
@@faisalkamal4319 Chaos is a ladder
I absolutely love how Baelish was the only one who asked for something in return 😂
One of the greatest twists in television. I had no idea that Pycelle, Varys, and Littlefinger were actually the same person who involuntarily shapeshifts, with each form having separate memories from the others
I like the fact that they refer Trystane Martell as the "youngest son" of Doran Martell because here, early on they probably planned to include Arianne and Quentin Martell whom they later just simply scrapped. Such a shame...
the whole dorne storyline was butchered and just a outright abomination
@@ColonelBragg It was too complex and disconnected from the main plot for the TV show to do well, but what we got instead was absolutely horrendous. That should've been the first sign that as soon as they ran out of source material they would completely lose the quality.
gosh littlefinger's voice sounded so different
mimiHTcat IKR towards the end he just stopped giving a damn about his accent coming through 😂😂😂
A Mockingbird would be a poor singer indeed if he had but one song to sing.
Was that the plane crash with Bane?
perhaps
For you
The best moment in this scene is not actually Varys' quip but indeed Littlefinger's face change at 3:07
He tries to play down Tyrion's offer but when he turns away, his face betrays his immense greed and power-hunger.
Great scene!
He’s trying to figure out what Tyrion really wants and when Harenhall is brought up he’s convinced Tyrion is going to betray him somehow.
He was looking for a grand scheme but the simplicity of Tyrion’s plot escaped him. He knew Tyrion was up to something but he didn’t realize he was looking for Cersei’s mole.
Littlefinger was well aware who the mole was and he knew it was not him
*Tyrion was a smart man from season 1-6 until he had mental depreciation in the hands of the writers and became a dumb man.*
And after that they decided to make Sansa smarter than Tyrion. She became suddenly super-intelligent who know how to play the game of thrones more than everyone. Even though she's never read a book in her life like Tyrion... WTF.
@@eddisontollett8845 *Honestly, how Sansa went from being directed to suddenly becoming a professor on warfare, economics and politics, is mind boggling.*
They did that to little finger and varys too. They were are smart and very often the people making the moves, sad to see those that played the game the best get destroyed in the later seasons
@@eddisontollett8845 its not really that sansa became super intelligent
Its just that they turned everyone else into idiots
a character can be only as smart as the hand writing it...
Varys and littlefinger faces - what the fuck is he doing?
"With a single stroke you'd make me one of the most powerful Lords in the realm"
*becomes one of the most powerful Lords in the realm anyway*
Looking at the scene (and the comments by others) I feel this scene is kind of funny when we consider that Pycelle gets "found out" when its clear the deck is stacked against him. Littlefinger and Varys might have ratted out to Cercei if they had an incentive, but rightly Varys saw the proposal of Theon as preposterous, while littlefinger was incentivised (taking the proposal at face value) to see it through rather than report it. Pycelle is the only one with an incentive to rat. I know the point ofthe scene is to show that pycelle is the rat telling the queen stuff, but in practice its less a test for tyrion about who is the rat (he probably already suspected pycelle). Rather it s also a test of the intelligence and motivation of lttlefinger and Varys. I hadn't thought of it that way previously
Yeah I only now realized that both the possibilities he says to Varys and Littlefinger sound really stupid compared to what he says to Pycelle. Makes it kind of weird in hindsight.
@@elibright1 The offer he makes to Littlefinger doesn't seem that bad, and the fact that he adds a juge personal gain for Baelish himself probably helped. He probably made the least credible proposition to Varys because he suspected him the least.
@@zqfmgb4335 Littlefinger was pissed off when he found out that he was told a lie. He fully believed it and was mad when he no longer was getting Harrenhall
I've always wondered. Did Myrcella get shipped to Dorne JUST because Pycelle was the rat? I mean, if Varys had ratted, would Tyrion have gone through with wedding her to Theon?
@@MovieStudio620 Te theon thing was infeasible from the start, littlefinger seemed to believe Tyrion and kept quiet. It was feasible, though unlikely. Lysa still had to go against her sister, and Sweetrobin being a sickly boy isn't ideal, but you can make a deal with them. The Iron Islanders have there own religion, have historically rebelled alot, and are already fighting the north. Theon by this point was not even in a position to negotiate.
I only just noticed this but when Tyrion is talking to littlefinger he starts off by saying, 'But remember, you must tell no one.' However when littlefinger ends the conversation he states that 'The QUEEN musn't know.' This implies 1 of 2 things. Either that littlefinger was clever enough to assume that tyrion was doing this behind Cersei's back or that littlefinger had already been eavesdropping on previous conversations. Just goes to show you how phenomenal the dialogue is.
Holy shit you're right, that's incredible
Baelish is too smart to incriminate himself. If he was eavesdropping he wouldn't repeat what he heard from other conversations while talking to Tyrion. Tyrion most likely told Baelish what he told the others about not telling the queen, but because of the way the scene is edited we don't see it
That's just the editing, you're reading to much into it.
Well, considering it involved the princess, that only leaves a few people who could/would object to such an act. The king maybe, but he is barely aware of anything, or the queen regent.
@@pocoloco753If that were true, he would have noticed that he got a different match than the others, and wouldn’t have reacted so shocked and angry when the queen found out that it wasn’t the person he was told.
“Theon Greyjoy...” LMAO Varys knew it was a trick that same second 😂
This is one of the best moves in game of thrones, shows how tyrion is in fact the greatest ruler and a survivor. He deserves the iron throne better than anybody.
Tyrion is not the type of person interested in that ugly iron chair. If he has a choice, he rather grow vineyard, drink wine and fuck whore.
Dwarfs are not a race in this particular fantasy world.
As a book fan, this is one of those scenes that did the books justice. I love how they filmed this, the same convo with cuts to different people. Really well done.
Totally agree. That’s wat D&D did so well early on. They were able to capture the book world. Still can’t believe the show fell off like it did
You kidding? They completely botched it. There's no reason why Tyrion told Pycelle (which is why in the book he doesn't - instead he just gives him two sealed letters). And the whole part with Varys made no sense - wedding Myrcella to Theon was an obviously asinine idea, and again, no reason at all to tell Varys that. This was an early warning - Benniwize were willing to compromise internal logic and downright dumb down the story for the sake of slack-jawed "viewers in bars".
The smile Tyrion has when he Varys says "Ooooooooh, the queen musn't know"
Tyrion briefly forgot his schemes and admired him like a friend who made a witty remark.
Too bad all he can do 6 seasons later is make jokes about his lack of balls and not even cry a single tear when one of his truest friends in the world is immolated before his very eyes.
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@@jamesmayle3787 Seriously go outside and get a life
My favorite part of this sequence is the part with Littlefinger. Baelish is possibly the greatest liar Westeros has ever seen and Tyrion plays him like a fiddle.
In the books Tyrion tells Varys that he is sending Tommen to the Martells, so it's a bit more believable
I love how brutally honest Tyrion is with Littlefinger, straight up telling him "I'm just using you", but making him think it's for an entirely different reasons. Also, I always liked how he hid his accent in King's Landing, a subtle sign of how manipulative he is.
“Remember, the Queen Mustn’t Know.”
I love Littlefinger's reaction vs Varys' when they found out Tyrion had played them. Littlefinger gets pissed and storms off in a huff. Varys is just like "Well played, little man..."
This is one of the best,or even best Tyrion scene in my opinion,it's fantastic,his character did so well!
technically 3 scenes but I get you.
I just realized all three scenarios played out eventually. Obviously sending Myrcella to Dorne, but also to Theon turning on the Starks and Baelish becoming Loud
Lord of the Riverlands
The irony of this scene is that, the best deal for the Lannisters was the one he told Little Finger. And Little Finger was all in, judging how pissed off he was when he discovered Tyrion played him lmao
Bruh
I do honestly think Tyrion was expecting Littlefinger, rather than Pycelle, to be Cersei's rat on the small council. Because you're right, sending Myrcella to the Vale would've been so much better for House Lannister than sending her to Dorne. But when Pycelle was the unexpected rat, Tyrion felt forced to go along with the Dorne plan, to avoid revealing his whole hand to Cersei
extremely smart what Tyrion does here. This is whats called a "Canary Trap". when you give out multiple different stories out to different people so as to expose the possible informant. Well done, and clever writing
not only is this scenes dialogue a masterpiece but the editing is damn perfect. Tyrion always knows what to say to who. I really hope him and Jon have some good lines of dialogue in season 7 :)
David Chandler They had actually.
It's true that Tyrions character has been affected since season 6 but if I'm honest there were a few lines I liked in season 6 and 7
The Bible is truth. Please read at least Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. The important part is combining the reading with the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness is the thing that makes it all click. To be forgiven we must forgive. The key is our parents. They’ve loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing, etc. we all build up grievances there. Actually dealing with those issues, and genuinely forgiving from within is what makes it all click. Seriously,
In 3 conversations he learns so much...
1) Who has whose loyalty
2) Who is a threat/player of the game
3) The interests of the rest of the Small Council
4) The Small Council's tells
Pycel reveals himself to be loyal to Cersei and too much of a kiss ass to play a true long game despite being able to maintain his feeble old man act.
Varys' tone and responses reveal he know Tyrion is full of shit, but smart enough to not call him out. Allowing him to keep his cards close to his chest.
Petyr shows doubt and hesitation but is quick to give in when the offer favors him in a way that makes sense to him. Proving he is both ambitious and self-serving.
Great
I love how mutually Tryian's and The Spider's relationship evolved from a power play over survival to collusion for survival!!
The first time I saw this, I thought he was talking to a faceless man. Using some weird riddles to tell him who to assassinate. I was pretty drunk that time so it was a pretty funny memory.
+Adobo Flakes You need to write a fic about this!
@@KindredKeepsake
In a way he just did...
Benjamin Johannes Sánchez But I want mooore. XD
It’s interesting to note which story Tyrion gives which person.
The story he gives Varys is the most unbelievable, since Tyrion doesn’t really want him to be the spy.
The story he gives Pycelle is the most believable (and in the end true) because it possible that Cersei might have fallen for the doddering old man act, so the story would have to be convincing or she might ignore him.
The story he gives Littlrfinger could be true or not, so Tyrion has to throw in the promise of Lordship of the Riverlands to sweeten the deal, since he really wants Littlefinger to be the spy.
I disagree about the Varys point. The fact that Varys is a spy is common knowledge. He's the Master of Whispers for goodness sake, nicknamed 'The Spider' because of the web of informants he remains at the center of. To say "Varys was the spy all along!" and act like it's a revelation is absurd.
My point is this; the only thing better than a truthful person is an honest scoundrel. It puts people at a paradoxical ease because they understand the rules of the game when speaking to such a person.
I'd sooner sit down for a beer with Varys than the High Sparrow - someone who's so devoted to the idea of goodness and religion that he's one of the most insidiously evil characters in Game of Thrones. Pure evil is cartoonish. Pure good is unsettling.
@@johncampbell631 There was no question that Varys was a spy. The important thing was that he wasn’t THE spy that was reporting directly to Cersei.
@mrnuke999 Fair enough. Have a like. One final point though, Varys (in early seasons) seems too wise to get involved with a temper case like Cersei. But I suppose Tyrion had to be sure.
*FORGIVE ME LORD BUT HOW*
Autism cat true ruler of westeros
Ouuuuu, the queen musn't know 😲
The one flaw with Tyrions plan is that he has bribed Littlefinger too much. If Littlefinger had been a Cersei informer he would never have revealed the plan because it probably would have meant he lost Harrenhall and becoming Lord of the Riverlands. If Tyrion had made it a command of the Hand instead that would have made it more likely he run to Cersei.
0:42... I thought Pycelle would say, "I'm flattered my Lord, but I don't bend that way"
2:20 anybody else spent the last decade wondering why Petyr Baelish sounds like an Norwegian robot pretending to speak English?
Lmao
"Ooooouh the Queen must nt know" 😂😂😂😂 this is GoT with humor I can't 😂😂😂
1:08 notice how Tyrion said “their younger son” obviously the show originally intended to include Quentyn and maybe Arianne too
while watching this i let you all know that i haven't had a proper shit in 4 days either.
+Carloss Javier try figs, they're very good for the bowls apparently. Or you could try an apple a day, that'll sure loosen things up down there.
+Carloss Javier chia seeds work
Amazing editing, this is truly a masterpiece!!
One of the best shot sequences in the show! The viewer finds out his plot through showing, not telling.
Agreed!
Played them all like a damn fiddle
Max Pain miller you need to eat a fucking snickers dude...
+xxlCortez Tyrion is the smarter one. *SPOILERS*
Lord Baelish definitely knows how to play the game but what he lacks are trustworthy allies. For him every person - except Catelyn and maybe Sansa - is just a pawn on the board. He has no empathy. "He would burn the realm down if he could be king of the ashes" to put it in Varys' words.
You also see that in the way he treats his spies. Just consider Ros' fate. He set up the whole war: He let Lysa kill her husband. He told Catelyn that it was Tyrions dagger which led to her arresting Tyrion which led to Tywin _going to war with the Starks_! He added fuel to the flames of the rivalry of Starks and Lannisters because "chaos is a ladder", i.e. purely for his own benefit.
This lack of empathy lead to a lack of truly trustworthy allies. I expect this to be his downfall eventually. While technically he is Lord Protector of the Vale, Lord of Harrenhal and Lord Paramount of the Trident he has no actual power on any of these regions.
To me, Tyrion seems to be the more intelligent person for this reason, basically.
+Zardo Dhieldor arguable. I love Tyrion, but Petyr plays the game better for the simple reason that he is out for himself, not the realm. He has no affections except for Sansa, so he doesnt have any weaknesses like Shae was for Tyrion. Also, Petyr is in no danger the way he plays, he makes sure everyone needs him (Lysa needs him, Cat needed him, Cersei needs him for financial support, Ned needed him to figure out the truth of the Lannister children, even Renly needed him to deliver messages. Petyr has literally played everyone in a way that none of them can have him dead, even though half of them are against the other half.
Tyrion`s game is for the good of the realm, which is why he makes enemies. Its better for everyone else, but not for Tyrion needs trustworthy allies, especially because of the enemies he`s forged, thats why he has to pay Bronn, and plan schemes like this. Petyr doesnt need allies because hes cunning enough to work his way to the top on his own.
+Zardo Dhieldor arguable. I love Tyrion, but Petyr plays the game better for the simple reason that he is out for himself, not the realm. He has no affections except for Sansa, so he doesnt have any weaknesses like Shae was for Tyrion. Also, Petyr is in no danger the way he plays, he makes sure everyone needs him (Lysa needs him, Cat needed him, Cersei needs him for financial support, Ned needed him to figure out the truth of the Lannister children, even Renly needed him to deliver messages. Petyr has literally played everyone in a way that none of them can have him dead, even though half of them are against the other half.
Tyrion`s game is for the good of the realm, which is why he makes enemies. Its better for everyone else, but not for Tyrion needs trustworthy allies, especially because of the enemies he`s forged, thats why he has to pay Bronn, and plan schemes like this. Petyr doesnt need allies because hes cunning enough to work his way to the top on his own.
+page394Always Petyr may be playing the game better at the moment, but I think the fact that he doesn't take sides as you have stated will be his downfall. In no way do I see his end game working out for him based on the fact that he has no strong allies.
In the game it is not only important to avoid making enemies, it is just as important to make allies. Sooner or later the cunning man must show the rest of the realm his hand. I don't think people will be too amused at the fact that Petyr has made them into dogs chancing their own tales.
+Zardo Dhieldor Empathy is a weakness when played the game, not a strength. Nonetheless, an illusion to being empathetic is not a weakness. Petyr is the embodiment of the cold blooded socio-paths that run our capitalistic nation. He will be the fall of the monarchy.
+Zardo Dhieldor Lol Tyrion can't hold a candle to Littlefinger. Dude Littlefinger has been masterminding events for 10 years now. He's planned on making the Crown go broke for god knows how many.
this is so well edited, loved this scene
A delightful chapter in the books that the show polished into an absolute gem. The transitions directly from one chat to the next here really bring style to the presentation, where the books like to keep things a bit more methodical, and buries the lead just a little by following most of Tyrion's day where he does this.
Tyrion: Tells three different lies to three different people.
Pycelle: Buys it immediately and tells Cersei.
Varys: Doesn't believe it for a second, but keeps quiet because he already knows what Tyrion is attempting.
Littlefinger: Only buys it after Tyrion gives him enough incentive, but doesn't do anything with it because he wants to get it verified.
So, from most intelligent to least is Varys>Tyrion>Littlefinger>Pycelle.
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If you look at it from a broader angle, Littlefinger is easily smarter than Tyrion and about as smart as Varys.
these three members of the small council meeting were really tough guys and hard to kill. The first one to die of them dies in season 6, then another in season 7 and the last one in season 8.
@@iloveass8851well Littlefinger and Varys where always rivals and they were equals on this game
3:40 Notice how he's drunk after having have had a drink with each of them lmao.
THIS is the Tyrion we deserved in the final seasons.
It is SO weird to hear Littlefinger's actual voice after so much whispering later on.
This might be the most beautiful opening dialogue to a video I have ever heard hahaha.
Varys didn't believe a word, Littlefinger knew something was up, but the promise of power blinded him and Pycelle was the queen's man because that's where he believed the power was
Remember....the show-runners did NOT write this....any of this story. This is the author's writing...he had actual talent.
TECHNICALLY they did come up with the Varys bit. In the books, Tyrion tells Varys that he's gonna marry Tommen off to the Dornish instead of Myrcella while here he tells Varys he's gonna marry Myrcella off to Theon.
"ooooh....the queen mustn't know, I love conversations that start like this" I love this dialogue because it shows how cunning and lowkey Powerful Varys is that he gets giddy talking about really dangerous political moves that could be seen as Treason or at least betrayal, he really has to be very calculated and steps ahead to act this way, specially here where they weren't completely allies yet
*Ooh, The Queen mustn't know.*
Tyrion to Varys and Pycelle: “the queen mustn’t know”
Tyrion to Petyr: “you must tell no one”
But then Petyr says, “the queen mustn’t know”
Shows how Petyr has the better spy among the players
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@@jamesmayle3787 Amen
You're overthinking
"Ooo the queen mustn't know. I love conversations that start this way." God Varys is such a treasure in GOT. A gift that keeps on giving even after the shows end.
Varys be like: "The test is stupid, but I still want to pass."
3:14 What's with the pause and then sheer exaggerated surprise of his reaction hahaha?
lol i can imagine him dying with that face
So you really think Lf knew what tyrion was up to and that that gasp was him turning tables in a way ? Genuinely asking
He's faking his emotions
He know tyrion's offer isn't good but when he turns to the window he gets all greedy and power hungry and tries to think of possibilities of this deal. Typical little finger
As smart as Pycelle, Varys and Petyr can be (specially the latter two ;), all three clearly fell for Tyrion's deception since:
-Pycelle got caught and punished by Tyrion for being Cersei's spy.
-Petyr was angry at Tyrion for "being made a fool".
-Varys admitted to Tyrion that he had played his deception very well.
PS: Very well played indeed, Lord Tyrion ;)
The golden days of GoT
I love how Peter Dinklage easily blends in with the Britisch actors.
He is an excellent actor as Tyrion, but his English accent is crap.
I love how telling is their reaction to Mycella's news
Pycell, in his role as a mere spy, as Cercei's pawn, just listens and nods
Varys actually questions how is this a good idea, he brings political alliances and conflict of interests, he knows and cares about the realm on a macro level
And Little finger only speaks of grudges and what is for him to gain, he only agrees when a big enough price is dangled in front of his face, he only cares for himself
The Bible is truth. Please read at least Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. The important part is combining the reading with the inner work Jesus Christ taught. Forgiveness is the thing that makes it all click. To be forgiven we must forgive. The key is our parents. They’ve loved us to some degree, feeding raising clothing, etc. we all build up grievances there. Actually dealing with those issues, and genuinely forgiving from within is what makes it all click. Seriously,
@@jamesmayle3787 Who asked?
@@jamesmayle3787i did
@@wyomingptt who asked you?
Notice at the end how Littlefinger says "The Queen mustn't know" like he knew it was coming, despite the line never being said to him in the first place? He only said this to Varys and Pycelle. Anyone else think this means he had spied on the first two meetings and knew all along what Tyrion was planning?
+Top Hattington On to something! But why would he still try knowing it was a trap? Maybe it was obvious that "the Queen mustn't know"?
GeoGuy NZ Littlefinger makes a living off of doing the unpredictable. If he knew the truth and chose to be honest about that, what would he actually gain from it? It could simply be him playing with Tyrion, letting him think he is in control whilst dropping subtle hints as to otherwise to keep everyone second guessing, Whilst it is obvious that the queen mustn't know, quoting him so directly and almost mimicking the way he said it just seems suspicious to me.
By going along with this plan, he proved he wasn't an informant for Cersie and gained the Hand's trust, which is a big deal, and got to visit Renly's camp.. Doing this let him further his own position, gaining favor with Renly and the Tyrells and securing his position in case of Renly's victory. His relationship with the Tyrells benefitted him very much in the future. Needless to say, just going along with this plan got him very far indeed.
***** The start of the conversation with each starts with Tyrion telling them it's a secret, and Littlefinger's response shows that nothing else on the topic has been discussed yet. If we only saw part of the conversation, what details could have been discussed before this point?
+Top Hattington If you have followed Game of Thrones you would know that later on when Littlefinger found out about Tyrions game he became angry and stormed into Tyrions office telling Tyrion to leave him out of his games.
The fact that they dont show the line in this scene is purely filming technique, it would be stupid to hear the exact same conversation 3 times.
Amra Ljeskovica Couple of points. Firstly if YOU have followed Game of Thrones you should know that the politics is far more about what people SAY, especially for Littlefinger. I mean, this is a character that survives off of being manipulative and calculating. Do you honestly think that ANY response he gives is his real one? We've been shown many times how he shouldn't be trusted, and just because he acts surprised/angry doesn't mean he is that way. You should really already know this.
Secondly, we DO hear the conversation three times. Tyrion starts by telling them how secret the discussion is, then tells them a slightly different version of the story, and then reminds them of it's secrecy. Littlefinger's very first line, "tell no one what?" shows that, up to this point, no details on the topic have been discussed, otherwise why else would he say that?
Thirdly if there HAD been further conversation before this point, what could it have been that was on topic? Seems to me we heard it all, starting from when Littlefinger came on screen, with his first line indicating it was the start of the exchange. By all means tell me what you think could have been said before that line.