Bulbapedia lists that Power of Alchemy can not copy Ice Face, Protosynthesis, Quark Drive, or Poison Puppeteer, whereas reciever can. This could just be inaccuracies in the articles. Edit: Protosynthesis, Quark Drive and Ice Face are all in the Reciever article under the “needs testing” section, poison puppeteer isn’t though. Also stop arguing over “No.”
@@Goldeneye3336 i love it when people just say yes or no without providing reasoning or context. i hope y’all know it makes yourself look like a toddler who doesn’t understand english
Slow Start on Varoom is a kind of neat little gimmick during a play-through, because Overcoat Varoom keeps it when it evolves, but if you manage to train up the Slow Start one, it changes to the very powerful Filter.
There’s actually even more to Varoom getting slow start: Varoom is specifically based off of a 2 stroke engine, with its “mouth” having a style synonymous with 2 stroke engines and their carburetors leading to the crankcase. This is an important detail since, as someone who has worked on carbureted small engines and especially 2 strokes, there are some times where, in the words of Slow Start, the engine “just can’t get going!”
i feel it's worth mentioning that rillaboom is usually used over tapu bulu, even in formats where both are allowed (at least in singles). It's kinda funny imo.
I’d say Garchomp and Rough Skin would fit here. Even before Gen 9, it’s the Mon that always ran it. Sharpedo almost always had Speed Boost and Druddigon…well, nobody uses Druddigon 😢.
Even if durant is in the game, i still consider truant to be the pseudo-signature ability of slaking because it’s known for having it. Meanwhile durant has other abilities it can use that i almost forget it can have truant
Just to be pedantic for the sake of it, I don't think Tyranitar can really claim Sand Stream as a pseudo-signature ability, seeing as Hippowdon has pretty much always been a viable alternative, just less popular. Compared to, say, Politoed and Ninetales, which are just completely irrelevant compared to Pelipper and Torkoal.
@@StormlordOG well, checking Breloom's analysis from Smogon shows that it ran Poison Heal sets until XY, so around 10 years ago. If you mean specifically SubSeed Poison Heal Breloom, then you're slightly incorrect as it's mentioned as another option for it during BW. It's not until Gen 7 where Technician fully takes over Breloom's sets.
Super late on this, but Analytic is technically the pseudo-signature ability of Magnezone in Gen 9, as Starmie, Watchog, and Beheeyem are all not in SV, and Porygon-Z barely (if ever) uses it. :)
2:07 forgot about most of the terrain setting abilities because of the lack of the tapus, although you did mention it later, they still follow the categories rules.
tinkaton is the only pokemon I know that uses pickpocket. she does not always use it, but she certainly makes it work better compared to the other pickpocket users.
in technicality, Heatproof can be consider one, as Bronzong usually runs levitate and the ability isn't available for rolycoly's evolutions, being sinistcha the main viable user on singles
I agree with this one!! Ive used heatproof bronzong as a gotcha before since people tend to brain off assume it has levitate but its really useful on sinistcha
Honestly surprised mudsdale is in pu when it has a really good ability, good attack, base 100 hp and defense and decent special defense, like I get its speed is bad but damn
This video felt off? IDK, if two mons use the same ability in the same way but one’s better than the other, that still doesn’t feel like a signature ability in practice?
Hence the title of _pseudo_-signature abilities. They're not actual signature abilities, but they seem like it because only one mon is actually used with said ability.
This video concept is based on 2 things: 1) The user of the Ability is so good with it / the only Ability it has, that people only gonna remember said Ability with that Pokemon 2) Other Pokemon that has access to the Ability is so bad with it / has a significantly more suitable Ability so people don't remember them having it Like, no Google no searching, do you believe me that Quick Feet is actually a good Ability? If so name 1 Pokemon who used it well competitively in either Singles or Doubles
Just like how having 600 bst doesn't make you a legendary. So I wonder if there's a popular fan term for that group of Pokemon, who feel like legendaries but aren't quite the same...
What about abilities like Dazzling, Queenly Majesty, and Armor Tail? They still follow the example set by Receiver/Power of Alchemy. Also, Filter would follow your definition, as it is currently the signature ability of Revaroom, but was on Mr. Mime and Mega Steelix.
What about them? I feel that Tsareena (not Bruxish) is still used reasonably frequently for these priority blocking abilities to not be Farigiraf's pseudo-signature ability
It is unfortunate that there is essentially only 2 options for the surge abilities, Tapus or a Pokemon introduced in Sword and Shield (or Arboliva) As for the non Tapu terrain setters, -Rillaboom is the best Grassy Terrain setter period, making it the series’ best competitive grass starter so far. -Indeedee Female is a support Pokemon compared to Tapu Lele being an offensive Pokemon, giving Indeedee a niche in VGC even when Lele is legal (Indeedee Male I assume is just a weaker Lele) -Electric Terrain just needs a better Electric Surge Pokemon when Tapu Koko isn’t available -Misty Terrain is a purely defensive terrain so it’s viability is essential determined by how defensive the Pokemon that get Misty Surge are
Sand Stream and Snow Warning do not go to any legendary Pokemon as they are only given to Hippopotas and Hippowdon, Tyranitar, and Gigalith (Not available in SV), with Snow Warning only being given to the Snover line and Alolan Vulpix (Hidden) line, with Politoed getting Drizzle and Kantonian Vulpix getting Drought (Both as hidden)
Well if you’re going to lump receiverabd power of alchemy as the same I’m going to do that for sheild down and zen mode (the both change the Pokémon’s form at 50% or below but changes back if it gains more health)
I'm still so mad we didn't get Revavroom's Starmobile forms in game. Imagine it worked kinda like Rotom, maybe you talked to Ortega while having Revavroom on your team and he'd offer to juice it up for you, who freaking knows. We could've had a set of forms with new types, moves and abilities - the fairy type getting Misty Surge, which would make it the first DECENT Misty Terrain setter since weezing would rather use Neutralizing Gas anyways. Besides, we'd have a fighting type Stamina user for STAB Body Press, a nasty intimidate dark type, a sweeping potential fire type with speed boost and a hazard setter poison type.
Tl;Dr: i disagree with the stamina verdict I think the one thing thats measured in your definition (“…only relevant competitive use on one pokemon) is a flawed metric to judge by. Archaludons best ability may be stamina, but its other abilities are still competitively useful. For mudsdale however, its other abilities hinder it a lot more so stamina is widely considered its only viable ability. If mudsdale relies on stamina more than archaludon does, i fail to see how it becomes archaludons psuedo-sig ability. Is it only because mudsdale as a pokemon doesnt see high level play? If thats the case, then youre measuring the pokemon against eachother and not the ability in the context of where it exists. Stall is the sig ability of sableye but is never used over prankster, would that make it a psuedo sig ability since not even the only mon to get it uses it? Theres a hundred more tangents i could go on, but mostly because i cant wrap my head around the logic used
Yes, it is only because Mudsdale doesn't see high level play. This is in the context of Scarlet and Violet VGC and in that format, Mudsdale is not used. Thus, the only Pokémon that uses Stamina is Archaludon. In this case, I don't care if the this is more judging the mon than judging the ability. Also I don't really understand your example with Sableye. I am saying that a pseudo-signature ability is one that is specifically NOT a signature ability. Since Stall IS the signature ability of Sableye, it will never be included since it fails to meet that criteria.
@@x_bell1142 makes a lot more sense now. I was under the assumption that it was in the context of competitive as a whole and favor was just put on VGC being the official meta. The sableye example was to just say that even though its not a used ability, it wouldnt make it any less of a signature or psuedo signature in this case. But only being viewed through the VGC lens changes a lot so i get it now, my bad.
I found a game that has a pokemon with insane abilities and moves. For example, your starter in her final form has Beast Boost. But two of the signature abilities caught my eyes, those being: - Zero Degree - When hit by a Fire-type move, raises Defense by 2. (The weird part is this signature ability is hold by a Grass/Ice type who is also a VERY tanky one like Bastiodon, Toxapex or Giratina) Anyways, this ability is identical to Sandysgast's ability Water Compaction but instead of Water is Fire-type moves. Or to Dashbun's Well-Baked Body - Soul Eater - When attacking, heal for some of the damage dealt. (Nothing to say about this one besides being a free Shell Bell)
@@robertlupa8273 If I'm to make an assumption, it's because the strategy he's talking about in the video (spam Minimize, copy Moody from Smeargle) does not exactly sound fun to play against. It's basically mashing together two luck-dependent strategies where the end goal is to sweep the opponent with an invincible monster.
What he means by psuedo signature ability is that it's only relevant in competitive play on one pokemon, mainly in higher levels of play. Breloom prefers to run Technician as it's an offensive pokemon unlike Gliscor who runs poison heal over its other abilities because it's a defensive pokemon
Bulbapedia lists that Power of Alchemy can not copy Ice Face, Protosynthesis, Quark Drive, or Poison Puppeteer, whereas reciever can. This could just be inaccuracies in the articles.
Edit: Protosynthesis, Quark Drive and Ice Face are all in the Reciever article under the “needs testing” section, poison puppeteer isn’t though. Also stop arguing over “No.”
interesting
No.
@@Goldeneye3336 Yes.
@@Goldeneye3336 i love it when people just say yes or no without providing reasoning or context. i hope y’all know it makes yourself look like a toddler who doesn’t understand english
No
Slow Start on Varoom is a kind of neat little gimmick during a play-through, because Overcoat Varoom keeps it when it evolves, but if you manage to train up the Slow Start one, it changes to the very powerful Filter.
should've been speed boost or levitate or something instead tbh
@@satyrsatyr2957 speed boost would have made so much more sense
Imagine if it had Heatproof instead. Or flash fire 👀
@@iceball3xdlevitate would’ve been nice
There’s actually even more to Varoom getting slow start:
Varoom is specifically based off of a 2 stroke engine, with its “mouth” having a style synonymous with 2 stroke engines and their carburetors leading to the crankcase.
This is an important detail since, as someone who has worked on carbureted small engines and especially 2 strokes, there are some times where, in the words of Slow Start, the engine “just can’t get going!”
When your comment on Stamina pointed out Sun and Moon came out six years ago I had a heart attack
X and Y are almost 11 years old
2000 was 24 years ago
@@x_bell1142i just heard my back creak. X and Y were my first pokemon games.
i feel it's worth mentioning that rillaboom is usually used over tapu bulu, even in formats where both are allowed (at least in singles). It's kinda funny imo.
True
What grassy glide does to a mf
What no Grassy Glide, no U-turn, no physical Fairy STAB, no Knock Off, and a 4x weakness to Poison does to an MF.
In Smogon NatDex, Rillaboom is OU while Tapu Bulu is RU.
The lowest tier in NatDex is RU.
rillaboom is generally considered much better than bulu in vgc as well
Stamina being on the list doesnt make any sense, whenever mudsdale is used he runs stamina, it doesnt matter if he is almost never used
Exactly when I think stamina I think mudsdale but I see his point
I’d say Garchomp and Rough Skin would fit here. Even before Gen 9, it’s the Mon that always ran it. Sharpedo almost always had Speed Boost and Druddigon…well, nobody uses Druddigon 😢.
Rocky helmet Garchomp obliterating Mega Kang is my happy place
FYM Druddigon is a lower tier king!
True, I forgot Garchomp!
Even if durant is in the game, i still consider truant to be the pseudo-signature ability of slaking because it’s known for having it. Meanwhile durant has other abilities it can use that i almost forget it can have truant
Breloom is really good with Poison Heal still
Just to be pedantic for the sake of it, I don't think Tyranitar can really claim Sand Stream as a pseudo-signature ability, seeing as Hippowdon has pretty much always been a viable alternative, just less popular. Compared to, say, Politoed and Ninetales, which are just completely irrelevant compared to Pelipper and Torkoal.
I do feel politoed is still super asociated with Drizzle though, more then ninetails and drought, just because of its gen5 days.
I believe Politoed is usually the preferred choice in doubles due to its better supportive moveset.
@@gigatonwatchPelipper has tail wind and wide guard so no sorry
@@gigatonwatch dude no, Pelipper has tailwind and wide guard, STAB hurricane
@@gigatonwatchPolitoed is only preferred on perish trap teams, or when pelipper isn't legal, like in Gen 8.
Sub Leech Seed Breloom can be nasty too. Breloom can be run both offensive and defensive.
I mean, it hasn't been good since Gen 4, like 20 years ago
@@StormlordOG well, checking Breloom's analysis from Smogon shows that it ran Poison Heal sets until XY, so around 10 years ago. If you mean specifically SubSeed Poison Heal Breloom, then you're slightly incorrect as it's mentioned as another option for it during BW. It's not until Gen 7 where Technician fully takes over Breloom's sets.
I just found out glimora has corrosion. Tbh, I didn't know anything outside of the salandit line had it
I like your videos, bcs you are mainly focused on vgc, but you also include singles (even that I rarely play singles, I still like it)
Thanks!
Sane, but the other way around. Both is good
Super late on this, but Analytic is technically the pseudo-signature ability of Magnezone in Gen 9, as Starmie, Watchog, and Beheeyem are all not in SV, and Porygon-Z barely (if ever) uses it. :)
Love this content man
I miss Technician Low Sweep on Breloom.
Scizor and Technician go hand-in-hand.
@@valiantchris6456 Yes, but its far from the only pokemon to use it. Maushold and Marshadow to name a few.
@@Oricorio-Pom-Pom While I agree with Marshadow, Maushold uses Friend Guard more in VGC.
He’s saying gliscor gets poison heal bc breloom runs technician, not that technician is breloom’s signature
Gliscor is sooo damn lucky with pheal...
Another great video! I would also include no guard for the golett line, since the other members arent available in SV
Thanks! Lycanroc Midnight actually gets No Guard by the way
Oh I forgot about Lycanroc!
@@zanyludicoloeveryone does
Well crafted video
2:07 forgot about most of the terrain setting abilities because of the lack of the tapus, although you did mention it later, they still follow the categories rules.
I am aware, but I didn’t want to mention them twice since they are more applicable to the weather/terrain entry
Torkoal and Lilligant my beloved. Its been my favourite combo since I learned about it during early S/V
tinkaton is the only pokemon I know that uses pickpocket.
she does not always use it, but she certainly makes it work better compared to the other pickpocket users.
Archuladon got not only pseudo signature ability it is also a pseudo pseudo legendary
It's glaaaaaiscor omg!!!! How do you pronounce, gliding?
in technicality, Heatproof can be consider one, as Bronzong usually runs levitate and the ability isn't available for rolycoly's evolutions, being sinistcha the main viable user on singles
I agree with this one!! Ive used heatproof bronzong as a gotcha before since people tend to brain off assume it has levitate but its really useful on sinistcha
I really wish Revavroom got speed boost. It would've fit with Varoom getting slow start and would've made it a much more useful Pokemon.
Will you make video with pseudo signature hold items?
Maybe yeah!
This one seems much harder ngl
good vid
Thanks
Honestly surprised mudsdale is in pu when it has a really good ability, good attack, base 100 hp and defense and decent special defense, like I get its speed is bad but damn
It's probably still good but outclassed by other pokemon
What software do you use to edit your videos?
I use Adobe Premiere Pro 2022!
i would say solid rock on rhyperior, i've never seen a camerupt or carracosta in vgc ever, i know it's the exact same to filter but still
This video felt off? IDK, if two mons use the same ability in the same way but one’s better than the other, that still doesn’t feel like a signature ability in practice?
Hence the title of _pseudo_-signature abilities. They're not actual signature abilities, but they seem like it because only one mon is actually used with said ability.
This video concept is based on 2 things:
1) The user of the Ability is so good with it / the only Ability it has, that people only gonna remember said Ability with that Pokemon
2) Other Pokemon that has access to the Ability is so bad with it / has a significantly more suitable Ability so people don't remember them having it
Like, no Google no searching, do you believe me that Quick Feet is actually a good Ability? If so name 1 Pokemon who used it well competitively in either Singles or Doubles
That’s why it’s a pseudo-signature ability
Just like how having 600 bst doesn't make you a legendary.
So I wonder if there's a popular fan term for that group of Pokemon, who feel like legendaries but aren't quite the same...
@@christiancinnabars1402 hmm…I wonder
What about abilities like Dazzling, Queenly Majesty, and Armor Tail? They still follow the example set by Receiver/Power of Alchemy. Also, Filter would follow your definition, as it is currently the signature ability of Revaroom, but was on Mr. Mime and Mega Steelix.
What about them? I feel that Tsareena (not Bruxish) is still used reasonably frequently for these priority blocking abilities to not be Farigiraf's pseudo-signature ability
It’s the same joke as Durant getting truant since it’s the 1 true ant pokemon XD
W keep going
Thanks
Rough skin is only on garchomp line in s/v
It is unfortunate that there is essentially only 2 options for the surge abilities, Tapus or a Pokemon introduced in Sword and Shield (or Arboliva)
As for the non Tapu terrain setters,
-Rillaboom is the best Grassy Terrain setter period, making it the series’ best competitive grass starter so far.
-Indeedee Female is a support Pokemon compared to Tapu Lele being an offensive Pokemon, giving Indeedee a niche in VGC even when Lele is legal (Indeedee Male I assume is just a weaker Lele)
-Electric Terrain just needs a better Electric Surge Pokemon when Tapu Koko isn’t available
-Misty Terrain is a purely defensive terrain so it’s viability is essential determined by how defensive the Pokemon that get Misty Surge are
Misty Terrain isn't even a very great defensive terrain with fairy types being immune to the one type it makes weaker anyways
@@ocarinatales1331 indeed
Sand Stream and Snow Warning do not go to any legendary Pokemon as they are only given to Hippopotas and Hippowdon, Tyranitar, and Gigalith (Not available in SV), with Snow Warning only being given to the Snover line and Alolan Vulpix (Hidden) line, with Politoed getting Drizzle and Kantonian Vulpix getting Drought (Both as hidden)
I don't play singles but natural cure is definitely Blissey's pseudo signature ability
The mons who get the ability would use their different ability
Celebi's only ability is Natural Cure.
@@iuxbaesuzystan and nobody uses Celebi.
@@iuxbaesuzystan same with shaymin, but also ZU so irrelevant
Used to be the only good ability for Starmie & Roserade b4 their hiddens gave them another option to play with.
My go to pokemon in vgc are Mudsdale and Salazzle lol 😢
That’s brave
Well if you’re going to lump receiverabd power of alchemy as the same I’m going to do that for sheild down and zen mode (the both change the Pokémon’s form at 50% or below but changes back if it gains more health)
Hmm Shedinja Alolan Muk combo potential?
7:12 why didn't include psyduck's cloud nine shared with Rayquaza ;-;
First /j
In all seriousness, great video as always
Thanks!
They shouldve gave Salazzle Merciless.
They should
I'm still so mad we didn't get Revavroom's Starmobile forms in game. Imagine it worked kinda like Rotom, maybe you talked to Ortega while having Revavroom on your team and he'd offer to juice it up for you, who freaking knows.
We could've had a set of forms with new types, moves and abilities - the fairy type getting Misty Surge, which would make it the first DECENT Misty Terrain setter since weezing would rather use Neutralizing Gas anyways. Besides, we'd have a fighting type Stamina user for STAB Body Press, a nasty intimidate dark type, a sweeping potential fire type with speed boost and a hazard setter poison type.
That would be awesome!
Abomasnow not being Snow Warning is criminal
Ninetails A is a great snow warning user
Slaking and Truant
Too bad Archaludon has a much better ability (Sturdy)
Obligatory nice comment
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Tl;Dr: i disagree with the stamina verdict
I think the one thing thats measured in your definition (“…only relevant competitive use on one pokemon) is a flawed metric to judge by. Archaludons best ability may be stamina, but its other abilities are still competitively useful. For mudsdale however, its other abilities hinder it a lot more so stamina is widely considered its only viable ability. If mudsdale relies on stamina more than archaludon does, i fail to see how it becomes archaludons psuedo-sig ability. Is it only because mudsdale as a pokemon doesnt see high level play? If thats the case, then youre measuring the pokemon against eachother and not the ability in the context of where it exists. Stall is the sig ability of sableye but is never used over prankster, would that make it a psuedo sig ability since not even the only mon to get it uses it? Theres a hundred more tangents i could go on, but mostly because i cant wrap my head around the logic used
Yes, it is only because Mudsdale doesn't see high level play. This is in the context of Scarlet and Violet VGC and in that format, Mudsdale is not used. Thus, the only Pokémon that uses Stamina is Archaludon. In this case, I don't care if the this is more judging the mon than judging the ability. Also I don't really understand your example with Sableye. I am saying that a pseudo-signature ability is one that is specifically NOT a signature ability. Since Stall IS the signature ability of Sableye, it will never be included since it fails to meet that criteria.
@@x_bell1142 makes a lot more sense now. I was under the assumption that it was in the context of competitive as a whole and favor was just put on VGC being the official meta. The sableye example was to just say that even though its not a used ability, it wouldnt make it any less of a signature or psuedo signature in this case. But only being viewed through the VGC lens changes a lot so i get it now, my bad.
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You missed Truant, which is also the hidden ability of Durant :p
No I did not, I mentioned it in the speed round
@@x_bell1142I think they're referring to Truant Durant having actual use cases on Durant with entrainment shenanigans
I’d think blaze torrent and overgrow would maybe count
Plus one nice comment (for the algo).
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Why does Durant even have truant
cmonn i agree alolan ninetales is better, b- but vanilluxe works SOMEtimes
Why you being so mean to my boy Abomasnow
I found a game that has a pokemon with insane abilities and moves. For example, your starter in her final form has Beast Boost.
But two of the signature abilities caught my eyes, those being:
- Zero Degree - When hit by a Fire-type move, raises Defense by 2. (The weird part is this signature ability is hold by a Grass/Ice type who is also a VERY tanky one like Bastiodon, Toxapex or Giratina)
Anyways, this ability is identical to Sandysgast's ability Water Compaction but instead of Water is Fire-type moves. Or to Dashbun's Well-Baked Body
- Soul Eater - When attacking, heal for some of the damage dealt. (Nothing to say about this one besides being a free Shell Bell)
What game buddy? I'm literally looking for ability-change hacks xD
Damn
Not gliss core
I honestly did not know I was saying it wrong, I will change that from now on
God I hate alolan muk
why
@@robertlupa8273 If I'm to make an assumption, it's because the strategy he's talking about in the video (spam Minimize, copy Moody from Smeargle) does not exactly sound fun to play against. It's basically mashing together two luck-dependent strategies where the end goal is to sweep the opponent with an invincible monster.
@@misterbadguy7325 haze is always an option
Mudbray might be good in little cup but… they literally had to ban duralidon from little cup Because it was too good.
Well yeah but Duraladon was a first stage Pokémon with powerhouse stats and doesn’t have access to Mudbray’s ability
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ya do realize breloom got poison heal before gliscor right? so it is technically breloom's pseudo signature ability and not gliscor's
What he means by psuedo signature ability is that it's only relevant in competitive play on one pokemon, mainly in higher levels of play. Breloom prefers to run Technician as it's an offensive pokemon unlike Gliscor who runs poison heal over its other abilities because it's a defensive pokemon
I can't watch videos that pronounce almost every name wrong
Which ones? Could you be specific so that I can pronounce them right and make my videos more watchable?
Don't pronounce gliscor like that again