Canonical Pokémon Fan Terms

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  • @johnmarklorsagorio4885
    @johnmarklorsagorio4885 25 днів тому +3331

    I feel like we use the swords of justice more than the 'legendary musketeers'

    • @Mariusweeddeath
      @Mariusweeddeath 25 днів тому +2

      It's a weird case that they are very clearly based on the Musketeers in a design sense, and if you mentioned that to a pokemon player, they would probably be able to tell you who you are referring to; but the name "Sword of Justice" being a lot more specific due to the "Sacred Sword" move.
      It's sukcs somewhat because I honestly lime the Legendary Musketeers name more. I feel li,e the name would have stuck more if they cameout in Kalos rather than Unova.

    • @PHiLLy2c
      @PHiLLy2c 25 днів тому +408

      I call them the Muskadeers

    • @mjdxp5688
      @mjdxp5688 25 днів тому +256

      I think it was used more before the term "Swords of Justice" were introduced.

    • @dodger01theawesome81
      @dodger01theawesome81 24 дні тому +59

      ​@@PHiLLy2c I'm so glad someone else came up with that too

    • @xeno9671
      @xeno9671 24 дні тому +21

      ​@PHiLLy2c ur a genius my bro

  • @maneruloquendero
    @maneruloquendero 25 днів тому +988

    I will never call them "first partner Pokémon". It's too long, it's phonetically impractical and I hte it. "Starter Pokémon" is and will always be the right term

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +77

      Agreed

    • @Zitronen_
      @Zitronen_ 14 днів тому +114

      They're pushing "first partner pokemon" way too hard. Nobody will ever use it lmao

    • @darkmond8680
      @darkmond8680 14 днів тому +5

      I always used it since gen 4 the fans should decide waht terms to use it the pokemon company and I will only terms approved by them

    • @nathanl8622
      @nathanl8622 13 днів тому +45

      I kinda get the logic (Pokemon uses a term that pushes them as your friend, the fan term is describing their mechanical role they fill), but yeah it's way too clunky.
      I feel like if they ditched the Pokemon and just called them your first partner, it still wouldn't usurp starter but they might get a few people to use the term.

    • @thegoldentomb
      @thegoldentomb 13 днів тому +23

      I actually want them to keep using the “first partner pokemon” term. Although we use the term “starter”, it’s more narratively attractive to say that this will be our first partner pokemon. It’s like the word companion over pet. I’d love it for pet centers to refer to pets as companions instead, gives them a more formal and meaningful visage so we as trainers will easily see them as partners than just “some random lizard I’ll probably trade out for a rat”

  • @jakebotton2999
    @jakebotton2999 23 дні тому +733

    There’s also “box art legendaries” which would kinda break the fourth wall if this term was used in games.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  22 дні тому +103

      True

    • @coolguy5133
      @coolguy5133 16 днів тому +88

      Using "box art legendaries" wouldn't be as big as a 4th wall breaker as meeting the GameFreak employees, or seeing a few NPCs playing the current Pokemon game you are playing right now, or when Penny asks you what games you have on your Nintendo Switch in your character's room.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 15 днів тому +37

      ​@@coolguy5133Penny asking that doesn't break the fourth wall.

    • @DanS044
      @DanS044 14 днів тому +20

      Nintendo can make itself a company in their own games I guess. Just as long as long as they don’t also make a game called “Pokémon”

    • @popcornab
      @popcornab 13 днів тому +8

      okay but what if there was a box ingame with art of the legendaries
      would it be breaking the fourth wall if they were called ingame box art legendaries or nah

  • @harukaze7388
    @harukaze7388 24 дні тому +833

    The real naming disaster is "base stats".
    In fandom it reffered to the initial stats of a pokemon, before natures and EVs and IVs were applied.
    Officially it reffers to the stats *after* they are are applied. EVs are "base points."
    The official term for "base stats" is "species strength"

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +228

      That is a disaster

    • @MrJoeyWheeler
      @MrJoeyWheeler 24 дні тому +105

      Yeah, that one is pretty bad. That's probably why it took so long for normal people without the internet to understand what vitamins do.

    • @nlb137
      @nlb137 14 днів тому +17

      It is frankly unclear. "Species stats" would make sense as that makes it clear that it's the base that's shared across all mons in that species.

    • @casualsleepingdragon8501
      @casualsleepingdragon8501 13 днів тому

      🤮

    • @harukaze7388
      @harukaze7388 13 днів тому +9

      @@MrJoeyWheeler That's because what it did used to be semi-officially reffered to as "stat experience" (in the internal code), which for fans reffered exclusively to Gen 1 and 2's system
      and then legends replaces the "base points" terminology with... _"effort level"_

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 24 дні тому +1723

    I had no idea Entry Hazard wasn’t an official term, that’s kinda crazy to me. It _sounds_ so official

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +191

      I didn’t know this either

    • @MarkFonts
      @MarkFonts 23 дні тому +42

      yeah, multiple syllables it’s *_GOTTA_* be official /s

    • @airam1721
      @airam1721 23 дні тому +6

      Is that actually not real?

    • @maddiemcnugget1076
      @maddiemcnugget1076 16 днів тому +14

      I feel like this just sounds official in video games in general since there are lot's of games where "entry hazards" are an aspect of strategy.

    • @yokaipinata1416
      @yokaipinata1416 16 днів тому +31

      @beanburrito4405 Honestly, an _awful lot_ of fan terms sound like they could be official, so it's very common for people to think they actually are. In addition to "entry hazard", you have "pseudo-legendary", "effort values", "Legendary Beasts"...

  • @mertensiam3384
    @mertensiam3384 23 дні тому +1037

    Fun fact!!
    The Masuda Method in japanese, according to Bulbapedia, is referred to as "International Marriage". I think Masuda Method is a LOT better

    • @trailersforfun2669
      @trailersforfun2669 18 днів тому +240

      Agreed, but international marriage is hilarious

    • @Numbabu
      @Numbabu 16 днів тому +135

      That’s just so funny though. They should combine them. Masuda’s Mail order Marriage Method

    • @mertensiam3384
      @mertensiam3384 16 днів тому +12

      @@trailersforfun2669 it is pretty funny

    • @Eggoroni
      @Eggoroni 13 днів тому +18

      should be the "i had a friend in germany trade me a shiny ditto so i can collect funny colored pokemon method"

    • @Diwasho
      @Diwasho 12 днів тому +7

      I prefer their version. Kokusai Kekkon rolls off the tongue well too.

  • @The_Jzoli
    @The_Jzoli 22 дні тому +467

    There's also the Pikachu/Pika- clones for the electric mouse-like pokemon released in each gen that resemble pikachu in some way.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  22 дні тому +88

      True, I should have mentioned that one

    • @echohibiki2798
      @echohibiki2798 15 днів тому +66

      @@x_bell1142 regional bird and rodent like ratata, bidoof, etc

    • @ThriftyFangirl
      @ThriftyFangirl 15 днів тому +21

      I love how the pika-clones are the electric rodents and marill (and nobody tell me marill doesn't count, it was literally rumoured to be called pikablue)

    • @kitsuaria
      @kitsuaria 12 днів тому +3

      ​@@x_bell1142Hey, that just means you have material for a second part

    • @KeiranTrick
      @KeiranTrick 12 днів тому +7

      ​@@echohibiki2798 regional mammal is more fitting, since many of them aren't rodents.

  • @sharkiejade
    @sharkiejade 24 дні тому +643

    Box Legendaries (legendary pokemon that appear on the box art) is another one I see a lot, particularly in competitive circles since they tend to be more powerful than other legendary pokemon

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +102

      True, that's a good one I missed

    • @yokaipinata1416
      @yokaipinata1416 23 дні тому +44

      There's also the term "version mascot", which could also apply to the Kanto games since it drops the "legendary" part. ❤️

    • @a.v.y8331
      @a.v.y8331 22 дні тому +9

      I think it's mostly used in vgc to loosely refer to restricted legendaries, since most restricted legendaries are box legendaries and all box legendaries are restricted.
      it's not exactly a 1-1 correlation but it's close enough for the average layperson to get the general idea of which legendaries are restricted, which is actually an interesting edge case for this video, where the official term and fan term don't refer to the exact same group of pokemon, but are used for the same purpose of identifying a specific group of pokemon normally unallowed in vgc

    • @YOM2_UB
      @YOM2_UB 17 днів тому +1

      Many are also sometimes referred to as "sub-legendaries", especially those with a base stat total equal to or lower than 600 but sometimes everything that isn't a box legendary.

    • @Ratstail91
      @Ratstail91 16 днів тому

      The swords of Justice sounds better, IMO.

  • @Rose-yx6jq
    @Rose-yx6jq 16 днів тому +317

    4:50 it sounds to me that up until adopting "shiny" they just weren't sure what you call them.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  15 днів тому +40

      Pretty much

    • @1Hol1Tiger
      @1Hol1Tiger 8 днів тому +7

      The TCG actually called them "Shining"

    • @MattTOB618
      @MattTOB618 День тому +1

      ​@@1Hol1Tiger I thought they called them "Radiant"?

  • @suly5836
    @suly5836 25 днів тому +651

    Sometimes I forget stealth rocks is just the name of the move and not the actual entry hazard (pointed stones).

  • @OgerponIsACutie
    @OgerponIsACutie 25 днів тому +697

    Gamefreak really making the loyal three the fan term by having carmine calling them the lousy three in game and now I just call them that

    • @TheRaggedFlygon
      @TheRaggedFlygon 25 днів тому +72

      That fits because they are such terrible mons. I was so disappointed when their stats came out.

    • @Blastosie_Offical
      @Blastosie_Offical 25 днів тому +68

      The Lousy Three is the fan term, they're still called the Loyal Three. You don't have to be good to be loyal, and they're definitely very loyal to Pecharunt.

    • @icebearlikestrains6238
      @icebearlikestrains6238 18 днів тому +22

      ​@@Blastosie_Offical Carmine does refer to them as "The Lousy Three" in-game

    • @dr.bentenjaminoctaviusocto1658
      @dr.bentenjaminoctaviusocto1658 15 днів тому +5

      ​@@TheRaggedFlygonAt least all 3 have cool designs

    • @ScionStorm1
      @ScionStorm1 15 днів тому +4

      The imPeached Trio

  • @energyzer_bunny1913
    @energyzer_bunny1913 25 днів тому +510

    I hear Swords of Justice more often than Legendary Musketeers. I hear Lati-Twins more often than Eon duo. I do hear "The Genies" about as often as The Forces of Nature.

    • @MousaThe14
      @MousaThe14 25 днів тому +14

      Yeah, this matches my experience exactly.

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 24 дні тому +21

      I used to hear "The Kami Trio" some time ago, but that's probably because I was watching people who were at least somewhat knowledgable about the group's origins.

    • @MousaThe14
      @MousaThe14 24 дні тому +22

      @@robertlupa8273 there does tend to be certain difference in “general fandom terms” and “enlightened fandom terms”. Such as your example with the Kami trio. I think the same is true with the difference of who calls them the “Eon duo” and who calls them “The Lati twins”.
      Heck I’m probably one of those pretentious gits because I call them the forces of nature specifically because I know they’re not genies.

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 24 дні тому +7

      @@MousaThe14 Yeah I never liked calling them genies term either.

    • @lorekeeper685
      @lorekeeper685 24 дні тому +2

      ​@@robertlupa8273 forces of nature are called kamis in japanse I think? Maybe lake trio too I heard both

  • @RealSkello
    @RealSkello 25 днів тому +291

    8:21 I have never in my life have I heard “Mew Duo” it’s just mew and mewtwo

    • @martell5437
      @martell5437 24 дні тому +43

      exactly. this is the first time ive heard “The Mew Duo” be used. i just address em both together

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +57

      I have never heard it either, but this was listed on their Bulbapedia page

    • @Hexic101
      @Hexic101 24 дні тому +12

      The 3-prize Pokémon card that features them both and was very viable competitively is usually referred to as "Mewthree" so they can be called that as well

    • @eglol
      @eglol 22 дні тому +12

      Usually people say "Mew and Mewtwo" because I guess it's quite easy and quite fun to say. Meww and Mewtwooooo

    • @generalgrievous92
      @generalgrievous92 11 днів тому +3

      they should be called the Mewuo

  • @FiniteMan1933
    @FiniteMan1933 25 днів тому +144

    Jesus i had no idea how many of these terms were actually fan made

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +11

      I didn't either until I made this video!

    • @ChicagoMel23
      @ChicagoMel23 16 днів тому +1

      Please don’t use Jesus as an exclamation

    • @ItsCosmoTewulf
      @ItsCosmoTewulf 16 днів тому +15

      ​@@ChicagoMel23 It's not worth the energy getting upset over the language people use on the internet

    • @Subreon
      @Subreon 20 годин тому +1

      @@ChicagoMel23 Arceus is what i use. because irl fairy tales are silly and stupid and lame and should be relegated purely to historical education rather than things to live by/for in the modern era. so replacing the term with a god's name that is intended to be fictional from the start is silly in a based way. arceus dammit! holy sinnoh! arceus sinnoh! oma! arceus take the wheel! lol

  • @ha7vds
    @ha7vds 14 днів тому +39

    Regigigas's Slow Start caused it to be late to the Regi family photo

  • @hhjan594
    @hhjan594 25 днів тому +439

    As a Japanese speaker I was about to comment on the inclusion of Archaludon in the Japanese term 600族 but you actually included this in your video!
    I'm so thrilled I had to drop a comment and sub! Nice work!
    The official term of Pesudo Legendary Pokemon in Japanese are however called 「大器晩成」なポケモン which translates to "Late bloomers" and was used in the merch line of Pseudo Legendary Pokemon families. Under the late bloomer definition unfortunately Archaludon can't fit in because it's not a late bloomer as you can evolve one at lv1.

    • @PHiLLy2c
      @PHiLLy2c 25 днів тому +2

      Huh how

    • @tay602_
      @tay602_ 25 днів тому +51

      @@PHiLLy2cyou can evolve a duraladon at level 1 because it’s evolved with an item

    • @JuiceBox000
      @JuiceBox000 24 дні тому

      nicceeee

    • @lorekeeper685
      @lorekeeper685 24 дні тому +8

      Ohhh thats neat
      Cosmog is a late bloomer

    • @theprinceofawesomeness
      @theprinceofawesomeness 24 дні тому +13

      I actually agree with the 600 stat thing. I personally think a Psudo-legendary is a pokemon that at the end of it's evolution have 600 or more total stats and is not a Legendary/Mythical.
      The only exception to my method is Slacking for the reason of Truant and just because it's laking that special feeling, i mean just look at it

  • @LeviAuren
    @LeviAuren 23 дні тому +151

    I generally think that the Pokemon Company tries to shy away from game-y terms. "Starter", "pseudo-legendary/600 bst club" makes more sense when looked at as game elements, not as the experience within a pokemon journey.

    • @wkdxcrimex
      @wkdxcrimex 16 днів тому +16

      If you ask me pseudo legends makes sense in all aspects of Pokémon whether it be the game referring to what it’s used for or in other media like the anime where it is essentially just local legends of super powerful Pokémon

    • @johndinner4418
      @johndinner4418 16 днів тому +12

      @@wkdxcrimex but if it's local legends woudn't that make them legendary pokemon? Why would they be pseudo? I think it's hard to say they're any kind of legendary when they're a more common occurence in the world even if they're rare pokemon. Calling them would just not be very natural for it to catch on as a term in that world, imo.

    • @cameraboimykul
      @cameraboimykul 13 днів тому +7

      Ah, Watsonian and Doyalist perspectives, I can see why GameFreak lean towards the more in-universe terms

    • @BryanLu0
      @BryanLu0 13 днів тому +5

      ​@@wkdxcrimexWhy would be an in universe explanation for differentiating legendaries and pseudo-legendaries? What makes them "pseudo"?

    • @chrisschoenthaler5184
      @chrisschoenthaler5184 11 днів тому +1

      I’ll give you two of those, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with “Starter”.

  • @ShayTheValiant
    @ShayTheValiant 24 дні тому +439

    I have absolutely no idea why Pokémon is trying so hard to push First Partner and Powerhouse as official terms when Starter and Pseudo-Legendary are perfectly fine.

    • @Mario87456
      @Mario87456 24 дні тому +79

      I don’t know why either but I really don’t like how Bulbapedia adopted the term for Starter Pokémon either, they should change it back.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +34

      Agreed

    • @JJJacko123
      @JJJacko123 24 дні тому +25

      I think Pokémon go out of their way to not use fan made terms for some reason

    • @ShayTheValiant
      @ShayTheValiant 24 дні тому +62

      @@JJJacko123 Shiny Pokémon and Eeveelution were both fan terms, but The Pokémon Company made them official.

    • @saucymongoose7246
      @saucymongoose7246 24 дні тому +29

      The terms First Partner and Powerhouse sound so childish imo. Starter and Pseudo Legenday just fits so well.

  • @MultiAmmar2000
    @MultiAmmar2000 25 днів тому +1655

    "First Partner Pokemon" is such an ugly term.

    • @evilduckling3469
      @evilduckling3469 25 днів тому +205

      It really is so awkward, I absolutley hate it 😕

    • @KVO723
      @KVO723 25 днів тому +346

      Honestly, take out any one of those words and it makes more sense. First Partner, First Pokémon, or just Partner Pokémon

    • @MultiAmmar2000
      @MultiAmmar2000 25 днів тому +48

      @@KVO723 Completely agree

    • @Eyevou
      @Eyevou 25 днів тому +140

      They use "aibou" in japanese and it has a special context for them being someone's companion. Your first. "first partner" isn't a horrible translation but it loses the context of them being special as your first pokemon in some way. Calling them your "friend and partner" is probably the best context english can give.

    • @--julian_
      @--julian_ 25 днів тому +11

      agreed 100%, I'll never use it

  • @mphorasethaba3726
    @mphorasethaba3726 25 днів тому +972

    I prefer the term "Lati Twins" more than "eon duo"

    • @notprogamer6
      @notprogamer6 25 днів тому +33

      That’s what I’m sayin

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 25 днів тому +67

      Same. Like nobody knows what eon means
      Those two are just jetplanes

    • @asmrtpop2676
      @asmrtpop2676 25 днів тому +40

      I prefer eon twins

    • @ma_cherri
      @ma_cherri 25 днів тому +60

      The latinx.

    • @TwiliPaladin
      @TwiliPaladin 25 днів тому +16

      Never understood why the former term exists when we have the latter. It sounds stupid.

  • @meischoice
    @meischoice 14 днів тому +26

    0:55 what the hell?! I didn’t realize that this was a community term? I always thought this was just how everyone said it… oh…I see now

  • @hhjan594
    @hhjan594 25 днів тому +85

    In the Japanese games the term for shiny Pokemon was always officially used as "色違いポケモン" which literally translates to "Alternate color Pokemon" which explains why this was a term option in Gen3 games. The English fandom however never really adopted to this term and stuck with shiny instead.
    Fun fact is the "Shiny charm" item is indeed literally called "Shiny charm" in Japanese, though its description still states "increases the chance of encountering shiny Pokemon".... only in BW2. It was changed to "shiny Pokemon" in the description in further games, as shiny more so used as an adjective instead of being an actual term, since in game when brought up by other NPCs they still called them "alt colored Pokemon" including Jacq who literally teaches biology in the school.

  • @thebananaman419
    @thebananaman419 13 днів тому +85

    11:07 you forgot regigigas in the regis and people just call the swords of justice by the official name

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  13 днів тому +36

      I did not forget Regigigas. Regigigas is not considered part of the Legendary Giants, as it is the creator of the group, not a member of the group itself. And I would not disagree with you, I definitely feel that Swords of Justice is used more often than Legendary Muskateers - I guess I should have specified that sometimes the official terms are used more than the fan terms.

    • @lantami1199
      @lantami1199 12 днів тому +27

      @@x_bell1142 Regigigas might not be part of the Legendary Giants, but it is usually included when talking about the Regis, at least in my experience

    • @_Just_Another_Guy
      @_Just_Another_Guy 12 днів тому +8

      ​@@lantami1199 Regigas isn't included with the Regis quintet because it is their creator in the same way people never include Arceus as part of the Creation Trio or Lugia/Ho-Oh as part of the Legendary Birds/Legendary Beasts group.

    • @bolttwo
      @bolttwo 10 днів тому +8

      ​@_Just_Another_Guy Except I see a lot more people refer to the Regis as including Regigigas. It especially helps that he has "Regi" in his name, so I feel like he deserves to be included among his children.

    • @Mr_Leo_DS
      @Mr_Leo_DS 9 днів тому +3

      ​Guy literally has "Regi" in it's name @@x_bell1142

  • @RJV-s3l
    @RJV-s3l 24 дні тому +59

    To be noted that in the Neo cards of the TCG, there were shiny Pokémon cards but they were named “Shining” Celebi, Magikarp etcetera..

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +6

      Interesting, I should have included that!

    • @Q-TebGamesNL
      @Q-TebGamesNL 15 днів тому +9

      ​@@x_bell1142 In more recent cards, shinies are often called "radiant" (like the pretty famous radiant Charizard card) instead of Shining.

  • @SapphireMan
    @SapphireMan 25 днів тому +231

    ‘Starter’ was used by the Official Pokemon UA-cam account when revealing the Hisuian Forms for the Legends: Arceus starters.
    The video’s title specifically says ‘Hisuian. Final. Starter. Evolutions’
    EDIT: Here’s the video
    ua-cam.com/video/eyxGvVBlSDQ/v-deo.htmlsi=VJAnEbn64say7XVW
    Also, why are the Regis listed as a Quintet when there are 6 of them? Wouldn’t Sextet be more accurate as it would encompass Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Regieliki, Regidrago and Regigigas?

    • @auroraavgc
      @auroraavgc 25 днів тому +76

      i think they classify Regigigas as their dad

    • @maganhassan2627
      @maganhassan2627 25 днів тому +5

      probably the last time you see them use it lol

    • @Joyy_Da
      @Joyy_Da 24 дні тому +58

      I don't think Regigigas "counts" per se. In the same way as Giratina, Dialga, Palkia and Arceus not being a Quartet. They're the Creation Trio, and Arceus leads them independently. This also extends to stuff like Ho-Oh and the Legendary Beasts and Lugia with the Legendary Dogs
      But yes Regigigas does maintain the naming convention, which does imply it's "a part" of the group

    • @SapphireMan
      @SapphireMan 24 дні тому +23

      @@Joyy_Da
      That’s a valid point
      Also, since when was a sabre-tooth **TIGER** a dog?

    • @theprinceofawesomeness
      @theprinceofawesomeness 24 дні тому +10

      Regigigas is clasified to be diferent from the other reggies. It would be like classifying a tree as grass even thoe they still are plants

  • @meinthefuture789
    @meinthefuture789 25 днів тому +151

    Regiggas watching the other Regis' get mentioned *Cries in Computer noises*

    • @Miguel_I_guess
      @Miguel_I_guess 25 днів тому +22

      He’s their father, he is actually proud they were mentioned

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +14

      Bulbapedia does not list Regigigas as part of the Legendary Giants, but rather the creator of them

    • @pflynn12
      @pflynn12 24 дні тому +12

      ​@@x_bell1142I'd still include him just because "Regi" is in the name

    • @benmunn7481
      @benmunn7481 24 дні тому +2

      ​@@x_bell1142 I was confused about this thanks

    • @meinthefuture789
      @meinthefuture789 24 дні тому +1

      @@x_bell1142 Oh cool, guess you learn something new everyday, thanks!

  • @mcworks6582
    @mcworks6582 23 дні тому +25

    I honestly refer to Zacian, Zamazenta, and Eternatus as the Darkest Day Trio rather than just having the dogs be a duo, feels more fitting to have them be another legendary trio ESPECIALLY since the story of Sword & Shield includes all 3 of them like the Weather trio in Ruby & Sapphire

  • @lordsceptile6181
    @lordsceptile6181 24 дні тому +104

    I've literally never heard the term "legendary Muskateers" my guess is its just an outdated term, because normally people just say swords of justice.
    Also I know people use the term "Lunar Duo" more for Cresselia/Darkrai, but I personally think the "Dream Duo" is more fitting and doesn't have any overlap with Lunala, the actual moon legendary.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +4

      True

    • @ScionStorm1
      @ScionStorm1 15 днів тому +5

      It just comes from the fact that the 4 of them are specifically based on the Three Musketeers. Which was always weird to me since that story is a French novel and Kalos was the very next region. It would have made more sense to hold them back and release them with the Kalos games. The Unova games already had an overabundance of Legendaries even without them.

    • @Psyckonautic
      @Psyckonautic 14 днів тому

      Funny enough, I’ve never heard someone use swords of justice but I have heard legendary musketeers used a number of times

    • @SimonSaysDeath
      @SimonSaysDeath 13 днів тому +2

      I personally refer to lunala as part of the "celestial duo" so I never think of them as lunar but ig it might confuse some

    • @lordsceptile6181
      @lordsceptile6181 13 днів тому +1

      @@SimonSaysDeath Same, it’s just that lunar refers to the moon, so people who don’t know would probably assume the legendary of Pokémon Moon and meant to represent the moon, Lunala, would be apart of the lunar duo but it’s not.

  • @rbikidportland
    @rbikidportland 22 дні тому +20

    I have the 2009 platinum official Pokémon guidebook, and it mentions “shiny Pokémon” on page 250. I had to go dig it up to make sure I wasn’t tripping but yes it says “Shiny Pokemon and the Mysterious Pokerus”, calling shinies a “rare pokemon with unusual coloration”

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  22 дні тому +3

      Interesting

    • @Ryouski
      @Ryouski 22 дні тому +2

      I still have my platinum book, I’ll have to find that myself!

  • @logangallant9580
    @logangallant9580 23 дні тому +16

    Even tho I hate it I love the idea of first partner Pokémon. Adds 100x the amount of guilt if you decide to box them

  • @mattguy1773
    @mattguy1773 25 днів тому +64

    I still have no idea how some people see the legendary beasts as dogs since they’re all based on felines (suicune is probably a leopard) (entei is a lion) (and raikou is a saber tooth tiger)

    • @SapphireMan
      @SapphireMan 25 днів тому +46

      The creator of the Beasts has said in an interview that they are based on cats, dogs and a few other things. That being said, how can people look at Raikou (a Sabre-tooth **TIGER**) and think “Yeah, that’s a dog”?

    • @Zacvh1
      @Zacvh1 24 дні тому +11

      Idk entei looks way more like a dog to me. But it’s like trying to think if the eeveelutions are cats or dogs it’s a mix

    • @SapphireMan
      @SapphireMan 24 дні тому +5

      @@Zacvh1
      Compare Entei’s design to the Chinese Guardian Lion statues

    • @saucymongoose7246
      @saucymongoose7246 24 дні тому +16

      I get so heated when people call them dogs.

    • @Zacvh1
      @Zacvh1 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@SapphireMan i think he looks like a tibetan mastiff. and the chinese lion statues look closer to a pitbull than a lion.

  • @TheOopharianMan
    @TheOopharianMan 24 дні тому +19

    i thought i'd mention this since it wasn't talked about in the video, but i hear the "treasures of ruin" about as often as i hear the "ruinous quartet"

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +7

      Makes sense because "Ruinous Legends" is also another correct term

  • @obambagaming1467
    @obambagaming1467 25 днів тому +153

    First Partner Pokemon is so much worse than Starter Pokemon

    • @Hydraina
      @Hydraina 24 дні тому +23

      Such a mouthful! We've been calling them starters for literally 30+ years lmfao

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 24 дні тому +19

      @@Hydraina Powerhouse Pokemon is also much worse than Pseudo legendary.
      Like this would imply that other Pokemon can't be Powerhouses.
      Also Pseudo Legendaries makes even more sense now, since in that one leaked image showing the relationship between legendary Pokemon, Pseudo Legendaries were also included.
      So, even if it wasnt officially released, so not really canon, it kind of proves that GF had the idea to give Pseudo Legends (and appearently Gyarados as well) some connection to Legendaries.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +7

      Agreed

    • @camronross
      @camronross 24 дні тому +2

      First Partner of Partner Pokémon would've been better. "Starter" sounds kinda stupid imo

    • @RyanReta97
      @RyanReta97 24 дні тому +1

      Like, the term partner Pokémon isn't even used that much, Not that I recall at least

  • @casualsleepingdragon8501
    @casualsleepingdragon8501 13 днів тому +9

    Gamefreak: *calls psudo-legendaries "power house Pokémon"
    Everyone: i see the council has come to a decision, but seeing that it's a stupid ass decision i've elected to ignore it

  • @tpfoxCastro
    @tpfoxCastro 24 дні тому +19

    Although the term "starters" was rarely used in the games, it waas used a lot more on advertisement and social media posts

  • @kirbyhasn9047
    @kirbyhasn9047 25 днів тому +48

    Tbh the official terms pokemon wants to use like "powerhouse" first panther" are just trying too hard to be fancy, it sounds so generic and lame to use the term "powerhouse pokemon" nobody is going to use those official terms.

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 24 дні тому

      Its probably the result of translation

    • @luissaumeth8000
      @luissaumeth8000 9 днів тому +1

      Tbh the Pokemon company seems to sometimes just... Not know how to name things cause wdym "Super ancient Pokémon"? So relicanth is there too? Xerneas and Yveltak too cause they are inmortal? Or "Pokémon of myth" ok then, didn't Groudon create the land and Kyogre the sea? Wouldn't that make them Pokémon of Myth? Or Regigigas cause he made the continents???

  • @InsomniacMatt
    @InsomniacMatt 24 дні тому +11

    Depending on context, First Partner doesn't sound awful, 'It's time to meet your First Partner' sorta thing

  • @TheRedSmarty
    @TheRedSmarty 25 днів тому +20

    8:26 Latias & Latios do have the shared classification of Eon Pokémon unique to them, and both the guardian deities and legendary heroes are referred to by their unique shared Pokédex classifications sometimes so it could be considered kind of like an official term. The only other groups like this are the treasures of ruin, which are all Runious Pokémon, and the Loyal Three, which are all Retainer Pokémon.
    10:23 The guardian deities also have even more names used to refer to them in-game than just guardian deities or Land Spirit Pokémon, and the tapu (no S when plural) is one of them.

  • @TheDelybird
    @TheDelybird 24 дні тому +22

    Personally I would count Archaludon as a pseudo legendary. IMO the fan definition fell apart in gen 6 since Goodra was monotype, and IIRC gen 5 and earlier being dual type was a requirement. So I also prefer the 600 club rules but pseudo is such a clean term to use.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +2

      Didn't know that, good point!

    • @kitsuaria
      @kitsuaria 12 днів тому +1

      To be fair, being "part of a 3 stage evolution and slow exp group" is somewhat arbitrary. And that existed mostly to keep Slaking out of the definition with its whopping 670 BST. Which the 600 Club still does a good job at separating.

    • @DeuxisWasTaken
      @DeuxisWasTaken 12 днів тому +2

      Yeah, the 3-stage evo line is a very arbitrary restriction. The apparent dual type restriction pre-gen6 is even funnier, seeing how 2 of them are only dual type because GF insisted on making all basic dragons Dragon/Flying.

  • @Mmacaroonn
    @Mmacaroonn 15 днів тому +3

    I heard some people call the legendary beasts (Raikou, Suicune, and Entei) the legendary dogs. I remember thinking "Raikou isn't a dog! Maybe the other two have an argument but Raikou?!" And that's how it stuck in my mind lol

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  15 днів тому

      Raikou is clearly some kind of Tiger

    • @chadcharest9891
      @chadcharest9891 8 днів тому

      We always called them the dogs. They're dog-ish, and given there were three birds before it made sense. Though, this was in the days of yore before most of us were using the Internet regularly and you bought players guides. So this may have been in isolated pockets.

  • @megagamermax.
    @megagamermax. 13 днів тому +4

    4:32 The pokemon tcg used "Shining" to call it's shiny pokemon when they first came out in the mid-late neo sets way before that milotic

  • @Mis7ina
    @Mis7ina 23 дні тому +9

    Feels weird to me the Aura Trio is called that, I would have expect it to be called something like "The Axis Trio" as they are literally shaped like X, Y and Z, which are used to represent dimensions of space

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  23 дні тому +6

      I think it has to do with their abilities, all of which involve aura (Fairy Aura, Dark Aura, Aura Break)

    • @Doubl3_Black
      @Doubl3_Black 18 днів тому +13

      Also "axis trio" has some..bad connotations

    • @lantami1199
      @lantami1199 12 днів тому

      @@Doubl3_Black I didn't even think about that, lmao

  • @Dukstless
    @Dukstless 24 дні тому +13

    The trapping moves are officially called binding moves by the way, as seen in Binding Band's description.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +13

      Binding moves are actually a sub category within trapping moves, I actually made a video covering this

  • @Lucario7280
    @Lucario7280 24 дні тому +7

    Starter has also been used in PLA teasing the regional variants.

  • @Joceyrachi
    @Joceyrachi 25 днів тому +31

    This was a great video idea! Also I've heard the Gen 5 goats called the Muskedeers as well lol. Obligatory "which does not have an official name"

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 25 днів тому +12

      This is the first time in my life that I have ever heard someone call the swords of justice goats
      Please keep the counter at one. Coballion is the only one that somewhat looks like a goat

    • @Joceyrachi
      @Joceyrachi 25 днів тому +1

      @DragonTheOneDZA I just used goats because I didn't feel like typing Swords of Justice

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +4

      Gen 5 goats is a great name

    • @Joceyrachi
      @Joceyrachi 24 дні тому +1

      @x_bell1142 We who the real GOAT is tho 👀 haha

    • @aspiringwayfarer
      @aspiringwayfarer 20 днів тому +1

      @@Joceyrachi Muskedeers is hilarious and definitely what I will be calling them from now on

  • @tomcruise5039
    @tomcruise5039 4 дні тому +1

    First video I ever watched on you channel, I really love your calm and informative style
    I really hate the forced disney/marvel type humor nowadays in every youtube video, so this was really refreshing
    Thanks for the video and keep up the good work!

  • @Kanbei11
    @Kanbei11 25 днів тому +12

    1:01 Cries in Pokémon yellow

  • @thelittleghost3784
    @thelittleghost3784 24 дні тому +6

    I’ve heard the swords of justice referred to as just Musketeers once or twice (not legendary musketeers tho) which makes sense cause I think that was an inspiration. But yeah I think the official term is used more.

  • @Eyevou
    @Eyevou 25 днів тому +16

    In Japanese they use "aibou" (あいぼう) which, when translated, literally means "partner" or "companion". First partner isn't a horrible translation but it loses some of the context of them being special, which they show in game as them being typically stronger than other pokemon statwise.

    • @HA-pu6ce
      @HA-pu6ce 25 днів тому +5

      no we don't, have heard anyone refer them as 相棒 neither in Internet nor IRL.
      We say 御三家(Gosanke/The three families).

    • @Eyevou
      @Eyevou 25 днів тому +6

      ​@@HA-pu6ce I heard the term most prominently during the Pokemon Pikachu and Eevee days when referring to the starter. Satoshi uses it a lot with his Pikachu in the anime.
      All of my information comes from interviews where Gamefreak employees talk about the starters. I wasn't familiar with the terms that Japanese fans used. Thank you for letting me know.

  • @SlimJimGames
    @SlimJimGames 10 днів тому +1

    Eeveelution was recently used again in a promo for the TCG set Prismatic Evolutions on their UA-cam page.
    Another interesting one, according to the Nintendo Music app the Treasures of Ruin are officially called "Calamity Pokémon"

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  10 днів тому

      Calamity Pokémon is another name for them, they don't just have one official name

  • @Chupilandia2014
    @Chupilandia2014 14 днів тому +4

    8:51 the motorcycle duo

  • @notprogamer6
    @notprogamer6 25 днів тому +33

    I was so surprised that it was called the eon duo. I always referred to Latias and latios ad the Lati twins

    • @eglol
      @eglol 22 дні тому +2

      Wow. I haven't ever heard Lati Twins until this comment section !! And always called them the Eon Duo, which I've liked for lore reasons.

    • @xkcloud
      @xkcloud 21 день тому +2

      ​@@eglol Same! I've never heard of Lati twins. They were always the Eon Duo.

  • @lucideirune1635
    @lucideirune1635 24 дні тому +5

    Shiny actually came from the term shining which was used to describe shiny Pokemon in the TCG
    Eeveelution was also the name of a TCG deck.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +2

      Didn't know that about the word shiny, I should have included that. I did include the Eevelution TCG deck in the video though

  • @KingJH0510
    @KingJH0510 16 днів тому +3

    Heres these terms, but in japanese
    Starter- 御三家 Gosanke, meaning '3 families'
    Psuedo-legendary- 600族Roppyaku-zoku, meaning '600 club', referencing their base stat total
    Shiny- 色違い Irochigai, meaning 'different color'
    Eeveelutions- イーブイズEevees,
    Masuda method- 国際孵化 Kokusaifuka, meaning 'international breeding'
    The others dont really have a japanese equivalent term

  • @tpfoxCastro
    @tpfoxCastro 24 дні тому +14

    Nah man, I know this franchise more than I know myself and I NEVER heard those terms for legendary duos. You had to dig DEEP to find those lmao

  • @Unownshipper
    @Unownshipper 11 днів тому

    This was useful, thanks. I'd heard some of these terms but didn't know how they fit in.

  • @Pearl_Blossom
    @Pearl_Blossom 25 днів тому +26

    10:23 is the one fan term that I don't like and think we all collectively need to scrap, they literally are not based on genies at all, they're kami (Shinto gods and spirits)

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +10

      I feel like people know that they aren't genies, they just look like them. Thundurus in particular has a striking resemblance to the Aladdin Genie.

    • @Zacvh1
      @Zacvh1 24 дні тому +1

      Every pokemon is a kami 😭

    • @maverickplays25
      @maverickplays25 12 днів тому

      ​@@Zacvh1No, most of them are based on animals, yokai and mythical creatures.

    • @Zacvh1
      @Zacvh1 11 днів тому

      @@maverickplays25 what is the difference between yokai, kami, and mythical creature.

  • @charsage1036
    @charsage1036 21 день тому +2

    Also at least for me part of why shiny works so well is because it has it's own term instead of just rare colored pokemon as shiny pokemon sounds and feels more special than just a rare colored pokemon.

  • @90percentzebra
    @90percentzebra 25 днів тому +3

    the Reggie jumpscare is a good addition lol

  • @IJustAnimateThatsTheJist
    @IJustAnimateThatsTheJist 22 дні тому +2

    There’s also two trainers in a house in Nimbasa City in Black/White games that talk about catching a “shiny” Krokorok with colors that are different from the original form.

  • @dr.bentenjaminoctaviusocto1658
    @dr.bentenjaminoctaviusocto1658 15 днів тому +3

    The Regis are also sometimes called the legendary titans, and sometimes include gigas

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  15 днів тому +1

      True, that is another name for them that I should have mentioned

  • @dirgenmeister4018
    @dirgenmeister4018 11 днів тому +1

    ive heard lati twins more than the eon duo. also raikou entei and suicune get talked about so little that the only fan term ive ever heard is "rare puppers" and i heard it once

  • @nathanh2523
    @nathanh2523 25 днів тому +16

    "eeveelution" is a portmanteau , not a pun. although, are portmanteau's a type of pun?

    • @Pearl_Blossom
      @Pearl_Blossom 25 днів тому +2

      Puns are intended to be mildly comedic, the term Eeveelution is just supposed to be a convenient way to refer to Eevee's evolutions

    • @nathanh2523
      @nathanh2523 25 днів тому +4

      @@Pearl_Blossom a pun is just a play on words. doesnt necessarily have to be comedic. portmanteaus are *kind of* a play on words, but i would argue that its more like playing WITH words as opposed to the former.

    • @evilded2
      @evilded2 25 днів тому +7

      ​@@Pearl_Blossoma pun is using a homophone while a portmanteau is a combination two words.
      For instance
      motor + hotel = motel
      Eevee + evolution = Eeveelution

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +2

      I didn't know that!

  • @TFGA_tFoMS
    @TFGA_tFoMS 21 день тому +1

    Missed opportunity to call the Mew Duo the Mewuo

  • @BipedAthlete851
    @BipedAthlete851 24 дні тому +4

    This is probably just me and my friends, but we have always referred to Mew and Mewtwo as the Two-Mews

    • @eglol
      @eglol 22 дні тому

      Ohhh I like that.

    • @falsnamae3511
      @falsnamae3511 12 днів тому

      In the rare cases of needing to refer to both at once, I just truncate the name: Mew 'n Two.

  • @fruit3193
    @fruit3193 15 днів тому +2

    In my opinion, all starters are first partners, but not all first partners are starters. Starters are the specific trios from each generation (plus arguably Pikachu and Eevee), whereas first partners can include Tierno’s Corphish, Wally’s Ralts, etc. which were those characters’ first Pokémon they owned.

  • @iuqz
    @iuqz 25 днів тому +4

    Naming legendary groups made me think of categorizing it.
    Oficially, every legendary is just legenday (even mythicals are referred as legendary), but they do have a lot of difference that would be better to categorize.
    For example, box art legendaries are commonly more powerful than other "minor legendaries", vgc people call them restricted, but restricted does include legendaries that aren't box art such as calyrex or regigigas.
    Maybe a video categorizing them would be nice

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +1

      Thanks for the idea!

    • @Zacvh1
      @Zacvh1 24 дні тому

      Yeah I still don’t know if ultra beasts are legendary to this day

  • @kyurei4478
    @kyurei4478 16 днів тому

    Very unique and interesting video that you made here. That's the type of videos that can serve as a good ressource.

  • @ThedHomie
    @ThedHomie 24 дні тому +3

    Interesting how in Pokémon Masters, the Tapu theme is listed as originating from (Battle! Tapu) instead of (Battle! Guardian Deities). This is interesting cuz for the Weather Trios theme in Masters, it uses their official name

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty 23 дні тому +1

      @@ThedHomie That's because tapu is also an official term for them, the group is reffered to by many different names in Sun & Moon.

  • @Skalvern
    @Skalvern 23 дні тому +2

    A big term for competitive players is EVs/IVs, to the point when official tournaments are casted they never refer to EVs or IVs only that "that pokemon was trained to be Offensive/Defensive/Fast)

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 25 днів тому +28

    Eeveelution is a portmanteau not a pun.

  • @sonicfannin6701
    @sonicfannin6701 14 днів тому +2

    3:26 actually, now that I think about it, I think powerhouse may just a localization of “600 club”, given that the name only references stats. I still prefer the pseudo-legendary category in the end though.
    Edit: misclick, posted mid-compose

  • @dontaedon5182
    @dontaedon5182 23 дні тому +3

    I usually refer to the "genies" as the Kamis
    Because...there incarnate form are genie looking...thats it...its pure coincidence. When they take more inspirational from Japanese and Chinese Mythology

  • @sewd1289
    @sewd1289 15 днів тому +2

    I've heard the legendary beasts be referred to as the legendary dogs interchangeably, but I've never heard legendary birds before, I always heard them be called the elemental birds, it's cool seeing what's common for other people

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  15 днів тому +1

      Legendary Dogs is another commonly used name for them, I should have mentioned that

    • @hanaruroa830
      @hanaruroa830 2 дні тому

      @@x_bell1142 @sewd1289 Legendary Dogs Is becoming an outdated term as people are finally old enough to look at the design inspirations, and these are more so cats. Suicune is a leopard, Entei a a lion, and Raikou a tiger

  • @jvbon646
    @jvbon646 23 дні тому +5

    3:09
    "Pseudo - Legendaries" have also being called "Late Bloomers" in some merch in the past
    Powerhouse is a much better term tho, but most people will still call them Pseudo Legendaries cuz it was the first thing they learned.
    Powerhouse is an accurate descriptor of what they are, in lore they are the top dogs above every other mon. They rank above the rest of the "regular" mons.
    Pseudo-Legendary is focusing on denoting something that they aren't.

  • @MarshtompGames
    @MarshtompGames 16 днів тому +2

    10:37 I don't wanna be that guy, but according to the official OST of Scarlet and Violet, they're called "Calamity Pokémon."

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  15 днів тому +6

      I should have included this, but I don't know why people act like there aren't multiple correct ways of referring to a legendary group. Calamity Pokémon, Ruinous Legends, and Treasures of Ruin are all correct terms, there's not just one term.

  • @AjLyfts
    @AjLyfts 25 днів тому +3

    I’m surprised how many of these terms were never official to begin with.

  • @skyeplaysgames4598
    @skyeplaysgames4598 16 днів тому +2

    Quick note that this video became outdated, as Nintendo Music refers to the Treasures of Ruin as "Cataclysm Pokémon" via the title of their theme

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  15 днів тому

      Treasures of Ruin is still a correct name, there can be multiple correct names

  • @SadGreenBish
    @SadGreenBish 25 днів тому +3

    Pseudo-legendary is definitely the term that makes the most sense, the requirements are just way too arbitrary. The 600 Club requirements make the most sense

  • @_Just_Another_Guy
    @_Just_Another_Guy 12 днів тому +1

    " _Nintendo_ , stop trying to make _First Partner Pokémon_ happen. It's not going to happen."
    - _Regina George_ if she was a Pokémon fan

  • @mrmuffins951
    @mrmuffins951 23 дні тому +6

    I can’t believe HM Slave didn’t become an official term with how well Bidoof fit that role

    • @Incineroarlove
      @Incineroarlove 23 дні тому +1

      Can't tell if you're joking or not

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  23 дні тому +4

      "HM Mule" is the term that Bulbapedia likes to use

    • @wintergray1221
      @wintergray1221 19 днів тому

      A God can't be a slave.

  • @klutchsensei2899
    @klutchsensei2899 16 днів тому +2

    Really good content! How do you not have more subs?

  • @nestlenightmare
    @nestlenightmare 23 дні тому +4

    The “super ancient” Pokémon? Wow, that’s pretty terrible.

    • @dingola_
      @dingola_ 22 дні тому

      "It's not just an ancient, but a *SPECIAL* ancient, who is very old"

    • @falsnamae3511
      @falsnamae3511 12 днів тому

      A synonym for "super ancient" would be "primal". Like... Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre. Mega Ray is an honorary member. Primal trio would be much better than "Super Ancient", if only because Gamefreak already labelled two of them with the Primal (Reversion) label.

  • @pewpewgeni1441
    @pewpewgeni1441 11 днів тому

    In Italy we also have some competitive terms:
    balls touch (For when both players in battle hit with fake out the non fake out mon of the other player), crit Pardiniano (Useless critical hit), passamontagnata (When somebody wins for undeserved reasons), balls rating (when both players use tailwind with the same mon at the same time), call (When you predict something rng based) and invisible sash (When a Pokémon tanks to 1 HP a move without focus sash)

  • @RealSkello
    @RealSkello 24 дні тому +9

    10:53 Since there’s six it should be a…sextet

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 24 дні тому +6

      Regigigas is their boss, like arceus and the creation trio

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +1

      Bulbapedia does not list Regigigas as part of the Legendary Giants, but rather the creator of them

    • @RealSkello
      @RealSkello 24 дні тому

      @@x_bell1142 I always lump him in tbh

    • @PrincessAmanda2290
      @PrincessAmanda2290 23 дні тому

      @@x_bell1142 he’s still part of the group Reggie is in his name

    • @ra_supreme9803
      @ra_supreme9803 17 днів тому

      @@PrincessAmanda2290no

  • @julioulloa5403
    @julioulloa5403 14 днів тому

    What a great sum of information! I dont remember if i heard before the mosketeers, but i know i knew. In fact my first ones all called for them (aramis, portos, dartagnan and athos)

  • @toussaintmaxymus4377
    @toussaintmaxymus4377 25 днів тому +3

    Nice video, I just looked and youtube unsub me for some reason, anyways I'm happy someone also think Archaludon should be a pseudo-legendary.

  • @tyyyyyyyy14
    @tyyyyyyyy14 22 дні тому +1

    Pikaclone- A Pokémon that resembles, or is seemingly inspired by, Pikachu.

  • @John-Chp3-ver16
    @John-Chp3-ver16 24 дні тому +3

    (This is a little long, so I apologize in advance.) For the Weather Trio and the Forces of Nature, I feel like their group names should be swapped.
    Rayqauza, Groudon, and Kyoger represent the sky, the earth, and the ocean; that has nothing to do with weather, but rather they represent the different states of matter, or different elements, on our planet. “The Forces of Nature” just makes more sense for these elemental creatures. Or even something like “The Elemental Trio”.
    As for the genies, Thunderous and Tornadous are the only two that make sense to be called “weather Pokémon”, since Landorous is in the same boat as Groudon(dirt is not a weather condition), and the pink one is based on emotions, which has even less to do with weather. I feel like “The Genies” is the only name that truly fits the entire group.
    What do you all think?

    • @martell5437
      @martell5437 24 дні тому

      nah, i sorta agree

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +2

      I still feel like Rayquaza, Groudon, and Kyogre have too much to do with weather for this to make sense. Groudon and Kyogre literally change the weather with their abilities and Rayquaza neutralizes weather with its abilities. From a lore perspective, I could maybe see this though, but including how they actually function in game, I think this is a bit of a stretch.

    • @John-Chp3-ver16
      @John-Chp3-ver16 24 дні тому +1

      @@x_bell1142 That’s actually a very good point. I hadn’t even considered their abilities. I feel like it could go either way, though. As far as their bodies and typing go, they resemble different aspects of nature: earth, sky, and water. But then again, they have unique abilities specifically designed for weather manipulation. Anyways, thanks for pointing that out.

  • @dotfflan
    @dotfflan 16 днів тому +1

    Wouldve been neat to see terms used by competive players, like OU, UU, IV and so on. Would really help people like me who are just starting to get into comp

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  15 днів тому

      IV and EV would have been good ones to include, but terms like OU, UU, RU, etc. have never been used remotely canonically since these are fan terms of a fan made competitive format (Smogon)

  • @ericlang7987
    @ericlang7987 25 днів тому +16

    I wouldn't really consider Archaludon "pseudo-legendary" because it doesn't have three evolutionary phases.

    • @Revoltine
      @Revoltine 25 днів тому +13

      Not to mention the whole evolutionary line itself didn't even originate from the same gen.

    • @FR3SH180
      @FR3SH180 25 днів тому

      yk ball

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 24 дні тому +4

      it matches the Japanese name "600 club" and the less restrictive definition, so I guess there's that

    • @Incineroarlove
      @Incineroarlove 23 дні тому +1

      And it doesn't evolve by level up

  • @AlClem
    @AlClem 14 днів тому

    Poor Regigigas! That slow start boy must’ve been late to the video edit haha :)

  • @KoigYT
    @KoigYT 24 дні тому +6

    Fan Terms are 10x better than Gamefreak terms

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail 15 днів тому +1

    Should be noted that some of these fan terms actually came from official sources. Shiny was actually used by official media and the card game even called them shining pokémon....
    Same with the term legendary beasts and legendary dogs.... They also started from official pokémon media even though they aren't the Canon terms....

  • @Sailor-Khione
    @Sailor-Khione 25 днів тому +3

    Sorry but I've been using starter and pseudo legendary so many times, I can't change it.
    Also the term Eeveelution was also used with a pokemon theme box.
    I call suicine, enti and raiku the legendary beast, not dogs. Not all of them look like dogs at all.

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 24 дні тому

      "Beasts" is a cooler word anyway.

    • @x_bell1142
      @x_bell1142  24 дні тому +1

      I will not be changing it either

  • @minecraftmatthew1393
    @minecraftmatthew1393 19 днів тому +1

    I’ve heard some people call the ‘Treasure of Ruin’ the “Ruinous Quartet” before, but I prefer the official name.

    • @connorutt9
      @connorutt9 18 днів тому

      The Nintendo music app refers to the theme as Battle! (Calamity Pokémon)

  • @alexgrissom3513
    @alexgrissom3513 25 днів тому +3

    8:26 I always liked “Lati@s” better

  • @eeveeonticgaming
    @eeveeonticgaming 9 днів тому

    6:35
    Eeveelution was also canonically comfirmed by the offical Pokemon YT Channel announcing a new TCG expansion with every eeveelution

  • @fairytypehuman
    @fairytypehuman 21 день тому +9

    The takeaway from this video is that GF/TPC absolutely sucks at naming things.

  • @Onyxs
    @Onyxs 10 днів тому

    They also recently used Eeveelution to advertise the upcoming Eevee Pokemon TCG set, which is cool cuz I thought it was the first time they had used the term