It was easy to tell the brother would die. He had all the tells. 1. He was a strong male character 2. He was charismatic, and had the ability to compel others to do what he thought was right 3. Most telling of all, he had a sister with all the same traits....
Exactly, and we can never allow a sister to be shaded by an overly competent male sibling. So it's off to the land of the courageous but meaningless self-sacrifice. Adieu, farewell and goodbye.
I hate how Dijimon is wasted in almost everything he’s in nowadays - *Bare in Mind* this was the guy who outshined Leonardo Dicaprio in Blood Diamond.. I need to see him as a lead again.
What killed it for me is when the idiots (main characters) go to the local Moss Esley and speak, in public, in a bar, of the people they must contact. They give names out loud…Jesus, in real life that would have been the end of the rebellion right there.
How dare you question the reasoning of our protagonist? A war hero. Valedictorian of the imperial military academy. Napoleon come again. Surely you fail to see the tactical genius of letting the scum and villains in on your business.
When the audience is stupid, the writing can be stupid. And if you're shelling out money to see about 99% of anything released within the last 5 or so years, you're stupid. I can't even find a movie at home, in my recliner, with multiple streaming apps at my disposal. I'll surf for a half hour, not even finding a "maybe" candidate. Its like they've taken away all the good movies and switched them with idiotic clones. The theater is just a magnetized version of this. About 99% is unwatchable.
Yeah 100%. I'm a former criminal and we avoid using eachother birthname like the plague. Especially in public places and on the phone. Each and everyone of us had nicknames and aliases... Often several for different levels of "circle" around us. It's as common as using a burner phone. Not saying criminal is the same as rebel, but i'd expect actual rebels to be smart enough to use these precautions too unless they're very high profile.
Zack Snyder is the director most hated by wankers, but we like his films, when some cry and make stupid videos like this, he continues to gain visibility and success all over the world, cry more losers😂😂😂🤣
@@johnny.V03 Johnson is very much capable of writing excellent movies. But whoever thought "this man should do Star wars" should have been fired on the spot.
This is how i imagine AI generated movies to be. Loads of popular cool ideas all mashed together in a way that superficially appears coherent. I guess character emotional development and acting within character are much more difficult for AI to replicate
AI isn't evil because it's bad at replicating humans, it's evil because it's so good. You'll never know when you're watching an AI movie. For all you know, you might've seen some already.
In 1977 I was standing in line at the cinema with my mom, dad & sister when the usher came out counting. No word of a lie, he made a chopping motion directly in front of us and said "That is it folks. We're full." It was the first time I ever remember my dad swearing. No one can ever take that memory from me. We came back the next day and got to see it. Han shot first.
I went to the cinema on a Friday after work back in 79,because Ide heard about this movie called Star Wars ,I stayed till 2:30 in the morning,just going out to get another ticket then straight back in for the next session, then did it again the next Friday ,fell asleep on the train going home ,woke up to find the train I was in had been put in a yard ,finally got home at 6 in the morning to my petrified mother who had called me in to the police as a missing person, ah yes that’s what Star Wars did to me
One day in 1977, I went to the theater to watch a movie, didn't know which I'd choose. Saw the publicity pics in the lobby for one, some sci fi thing with a guy standing near what I thought was an unusual monorail car. Thought "Why not?" Watched the film, walked back outside to see a line stretching into the parking lot. Got back in the queue and didn't even mind the wait. That is my introduction to the "Star Wars" story. Spent each night the next week watching that flick, then tapered off to once or twice a week. As cheesy as that reel of celluloid is, no other film has had that kind of effect on me.
The second you said, "In 1977 I was standing in line..." I knew what you were talking about. I had nearly the same experience. I was cut from the first showing and saw Empire of the Ants instead, but I stayed up for a Star Wars that night.
The droid isn’t the only character who disappears. In the beginning, the one ‘innocent’ soldier helps Cora stop the other soldiers from raping that girl. Then that soldier just disappears as well. I thought for sure he’d end up helping them fight the Empire, but he just, disappears from the narrative.
I found the opening pretty good, basically right up until the antagonist guy landed to talk to the farmers and that was when it all started going off the rails for me. The idea of this huge space-faring empire still needing to exploit basic resources like grain to survive, sounded interesting. It suggested that even food is somewhat scarce in the far reaches of the galaxy, even if this particular village isn't starving. But. There's a GIANT FUCKIN SPACEPORT CITY a few miles away from the village? The empire guys wouldn't just go there and raid that city for food immediately, why exactly? Why was it preferable for them to waste time hassling a little village of like a hundred medieval peasants for food? (and who don't even HAVE the food yet, they are literal months away from producing said food)
My thinking on that has to do with reoccurring grain. They’d get what they want from the farmer and maybe not the space port So long term over short I guess
I agree. I was interested up until then. It combined 2 of my passions; sci fi and horticulture. lol. And Sophie Boutella looked gorgeous… but she’s no action heroine. What is she, 5’5, 115lbs? A least cast a well built woman. I can see Elliot Page being cast as Superman next . It just got worse until I just had to switch it off around the time of that bar fight. I might have made about an hour before tapping out.
I'm normally pretty easy going with sci fi as i find the worldbuilding as interesting as the actual plot but it was just all over the place. I still don't understand the world. You have a warhammer style empire, but we learned next to nothing about it. There's a viking farming village for some reason which has orgies in the hopes that it convinces the gods to make their plants grow, since they've decided the only modern technology they're going to use are automatic doors, and that's an overnight hike from a western style town with a space port and a load of aliens which where never explained or expanded on so fuck knows if they're part of the empire, have civilisations outside the empire or fought the empire, and there's an Irish guy. There was a cyber punk city where Asian people use swords for honor because we've not moved on from that cliche, and spider women who apparently used to own the planet and so kidnap children, no need to expand on that. A roman colleseum, don't know what the fuck that was about, but i expected to see Russell Crowe wandering around in the background and then at some point conan the barbarian went to an American ranch at hogwarts to train a hippogriff using a slow motion spell or something, I think I zoned out at that part.
It's criminal to not mention how HEAVILY this movie was inspired by warhammer 40k. The robot literally says he's part of the "Mechanicus Militarium". The soldiers main gun looks identical to a bolter except scaled down. The general astetic of "The Empire" fits more with 40k than starwars and the plot of the royal family sounds like something ripped straight from the 40k wiki. To top it all off, the basic grunts look IDENTICAL to 40k guardsmen just with slightly different texture and color of the armor.
I haven't seen it, but watching this, the ship looks like they tried to ape the silhouette of an Imperium of Man ship, but with no hard edges, all curves.
@@marinesinspace6253 There are definite nods to or blatant takes from Warhammer 40k in this movie. I noticed it almost from the start. Maybe if they'd have leaned into it more and gone more grim dark, it might have been halfway decent. Unfortunately, it's pretty damned generic once you get about halfway through the movie.
I also cannot be done with all this "caring or empathising with the character" malarkey to install some actual sense of high stakes and jeopardy. Just throw in some more 'splosions please. @@marcogenovesi8570
@arcademan09 YES. I just said same thing it's so weird. They gather them all up give them a little intro then we only see them again shooting things slo mo. 😂.
Zack Snyder won 4 raspberry awards for Batman vs Superman WHAT DID you expect. This is the problem with Hollywood instead of hiring new talent they are just spreading the money with their rich friends. If I wanted to start a Syfy franchise I wouldn't hire someone who won 4 raspberry awards. This is beyond stupid
@@Whaddayamean13 Anything made by Zack Snyder is going to be Yelling at the camera long and boring slow motion scenes. Long exposition dumps and long dramatic pauses. I know this because I have deductive reasoning skills. Plus I do my homework plus I follow the evidence. Anymore dumb questions
@@Whaddayamean13 Oh no, another snyder groupie. That movie won 4 raspberry awards because it was LAUGHABLY bad. Now go watch some 4 hours long "snydercut" version of it
@@Whaddayamean13 I saw the trailers for all his recent films, and did not even PIRATE them, they are that generic and overblown. He was exposed since "Suckerpunch" as talentless hack, riding on better scripts. Alan Moore deserves MULTIPLE apologies.
The Anthony Hopkins Robot was the most interesting character in the movie. It kept me watching in hopes to see it murdering people but that never happened, then it went all caveman at the very end.
I felt exacly the same, I was waiting and holding on to see this robot again and its purpose. I hope it will be important in part 2, otherwise its even worse.
Don't worry it's going to be the number seven and you don't need to wait for the second part of this film, try watching the "magnificent seven", you have saloons, horses, a farm, bad people and seven good guys (not women unfortunately) if you want a touch of Japan with swords, watch the "seven samurai"
The robot was a stupid idea. First off, it's a robot : why wouldn't they reprogram it if it stops following orders ? Why expend resources in its maintenance ? Just to have someone carry shit ? And then there's the "blushing LED's" on its face. What's the point, besides letting it "emote" because the script needs it and the audience is deemed too thick to understand without visual cues. Seriously, imagine the engineers designing that thing : "oh, guys, don't forget to add LED's so it can blush, that will be super important on the battlefield". I'm sure they were all high on drugs when they wrote that crap.
keep in mind Godzilla Minus One was made with like 1/10 of the budget that this movie got I'm seriously starting to think that these 100+ million budget movies are just money laundry schemes at this point
@@TimoCruz177 wow now that makes zero sense with what we ended up seeing. And it's not like they paid these no name actors big paychecks either. It never had an all star cast, it never even had 1 lol. All no names.
Another Female Character without any flaws or struggle story what they presented as her backstory was essentially parents die but you are great at everything from birth. Even at the presented height of her ability she had no weakness, no need to rely on her group members. No over confidence or self doubt. Just "Badass bitch, ima slay" was the only narrative. Missing one all important aspect of good character writing, flaws. For example, Guardians of the Galaxy and say Quill, was that he was very broken as a character but the group each with their own unique ability made up for the deficiencies he had, it made him an endearing and relatable. But there is zero attempt at this, in this film. Much like every film produced in the last 5 years. The physical strength she possessed in melee was absurd given her frame is tiny and I was left questioning how somebody with no implants or obvious upper body weight can put tall physically built male soldiers onto the ground. I really tried to identify with her and I love female protagonists in other films where they understand there are different strengths to brute force and they work around that with technique, dexterity and agility. But this was just ridiculous, the whole performance screamed "bulls**t". If we have to go down the world where all protagonists *have* to now be female, or diverse. Can you for the love of god, atleast write a decent character story arc. One where they have flaws and are not just born omnipotent.
@@DaraGaming42 I mean its just more lazy writing. other movies we see the main characters grueling training and overcoming it, can these female protagonists not get the same chance. I like what OP brought up about “boss bitch imma slay” because we do seem to be at this point where female protagonists are trying to make up for some lack of a spotlight but in doing so forgets everything they need to be a good character 😂
The biggest issue in this action movie is the bad action. Every character has plot armour until they don't. Guns are drawn but no one can aim, until they need to, and the heroes who are held at gunpoint constantly manage to draw their weapons and start shooting before those who are threatening to kill them manage to get a shot off. And back to the aim, the heroes rarely move from their original position right away and just stand there shooting a few times before finally taking cover. It's very bizarre and makes no sense.
Well, you can look at it as a cationary tale. We live in some kind of "high tech" civilisation. But GMO do not work as advertised, hydroponics can not work at the scale we need, and we can not eat bitcoins... No grains, no food, no people...
Yeah it seemed odd that they expect us to get behind the idea that a galaxy spanning empire wants to feed its army w/the product produced from a single small village that farms exclusively through muscle w/out any advanced farming tech. How much food can they possibly make? If an army in that setting needs food they gonna need way more than that, and they are the official army so they probably have money to simply buy. The village is just way too insignificant to have the importance accorded to it that it apparently has. A galaxy spanning empire wouldn't send armies out without provisions or an established means to get needed provisions. Such an army would still need to resupply, but there'd be some sort of system in place to provide for this supply. If they just raid their own lands for food, if that's their system, this could result in oppression of farmers, sure, but it would be a trickle down effect, the army would just show up at a depot that sells food in the bulk quantities it needs and in the great variety it needs, and processed already, and buy or requisition it by legal right at which point the depot owners would pass the expense on down the line, and that's where the oppression would come from. They wouldn't go farm to farm manually collecting the unprocessed food product themselves. And this village makes grains or whatever, so they'd go through a lot of effort, harming their own empire in the process, harming future ongoing supplies, and they'd get a bunch of unprocessed grains as a result. And why does this moon with good soil have only one village making food on it. I didn't hate the movie. Had fun watching hte action scenes. Was worth the watch for free as a surprise offering through netflix. But stuff like the above was like a splinter in my mind as I watched. With more splinters to come as I progressed.
I watched this with my mom, who stealthily and brilliantly dropped quotes from Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Bladerunner, and Dune into scenes where they actually fit perfectly. When your elderly mother can do that, you KNOW the film is derivative.😂
Yes, and Star Wars, LOTR, Bladerunner and Dune were themselves derivative of older stuff. And I love LOTR, Bladerunner and Dune. But does it matter that they're derivative?
@@Lleanlleawrg Yes. Plagiarism is to copy WITHOUT improvement on the original material! Homage is WITH improvement or in a new way... Zack "Hack" Snyder is a plagiarist. A lucky, but lazy fraud.
Funny thing is I went into this blind and had no idea who directed this. And within 10min I knew exactly who after these dumb unnecessary slow mo shots kept popping up lol
The reason the Rebels in Star Wars stood a chance is cause the Empire couldn't pin them down. The Rebellion kept moving. They had ships and unknown supporters all across the galaxy. If you want to protect a farming settlement from the evil empire, it helps if they dont have space ships with the ability to wipe that farming settlement off the face of the planet in about five seconds.
There was also The Force.. why exactly is this girl so powerful?! She’s just a nepo baby? This thing looks n sounds good but what a garbage story. These farmers with their weird Viking accents and anti tech pro harsh labor beliefs.. just so meh The droid looked cool but then ran away.. killed the one cool guy with swagger so another girlboss AND NB but clearly a chick character can be motivated?! What’s it call when a heroic man gets Fridged?!
An entity that needs a small farm resources isn't an empire, it's some kind of local medieval baron. So, the logic of "building the villain" is complete crap. Also genuine empire as you mentioned can't be taken down by a bunch of rag tag rebels. I.e. I can't believe in the logic of the fantasy world presented.
Honestly his only good movies were 300, watchmen, dawn of the dead and man of steel. The rest are just trash I might add the only good thing about man of steel is the fight scene and casting Henry Cavill. The rest especially the lightning and acting is subpar.
@@sunshineskystarI'd go even less. 300 and Dawn of the Dead. Everything else of his tries too hard, is too cool by half, and surface cool and content shallow. This may be controversial (though it probably shouldn't be), but a big part of the reason the DC Snyderverse failed is because of the vision and planning of the one heading it- Snyder himself.
The main take away I get from so many recent Hollywood products is that the future they paint is bleak. Even when the characters they present as the 'good -guys- they/thems' prevail, the simulacrum of a world they've created is at best dull and gray, and populated with automatons in skin-suits who can't even manage to interact as actual human beings.
This is what you get when narcissists and/or sociopaths write stories. They already don't understand how normal people feel about that which is bad, so why would the understand a normal person's ideals and hope for the future?
As far as modern Hollywood is concerned, the future is just like now, except with more gizmos. Their 'future realism' is that there are enlightened characters who share their political views on race and gender, who are the protagonists, and everyone else, who are either misguided and just need the protagonists to enlighten them, or choose to be 'wrong', and are the antagonists. Star Trek Discovery and Picard are perfect examples of this, and compared to old Trek, might as well be set in completely different universes in terms of their settings.
Hollywood has a low opinion of humanity. Almost Every future they portray is dystopian. The excuse that "its more interesting" falls flat as there will always be dangerous places in a galaxy that is otherwise at peace, lead by people who are not idiots/corrupt. 10 Little Indians wasn't great because they were the last 10 people on the planet. The scenario wasn't created by an evil man because the British government was corrupt.
No. Sorry. Painting all of “Hollywood” with a ridiculously broad brush because the king of the nerds (Snyder) has disappointed you AGAIN is just fucking lazy.
The one thing that really struck me. And thats saying a lot. Nemesis had literally just finished saying "revenge will destroy you, dont do it" and next scene, Kora is telling Titus to "focus on revenge" ...Did they even proof read the script???
Or perhaps she was trying to find a way to get Titus to do what she wanted. Nemesis gave them all a warning, but revenge is probably the only motivation Titus has for putting down the bottle right now. Maybe it will be something that comes back in part 2.
Nemisis and Kora don’t break the fourth wall. Every character has their own thought process and narrative. The only thing we know they have in common so far is a dislike for the powerful kingdom.
Watched it last night. It's basically Star Wars crossed with Fellowship of the Ring. Jesus, even the fucking Prancing Pony made an appearance. And when they pick up Djimon Hounsou as a disgraced rebel military general turned slave outside a fucking colosseum, I literally shouted "Oh, come on!"
Don’t forget how this film is full of warhammer lol. The bad guy is a commissar, surrounded by mechanicus adepts and has a robot that is from the, huh, “mechanicus militarus”
@@davidwright873 He basically plays the same role as the role Russell Crowe played in the movie he costarred with him in. Super lazy writing and casting.
There are 2 reasons that completely sink the ship: 1. The unique characters, we spend a hour recruiting, dont affect the plot at all. And its not even fun hanging around with them. 2. The plot - like what are a few maybe even hundreds of soldiers going to do, when the enemy has a Dreadnought they can use to blast them back to the stone age? As an extension - is the empire even evil? They conquered a few planets like ok. The Admiral kills two men who lie to him and nukes a planet which gave ressources/shelter to a terrorist organization - lying to authorities and aiding and abetting is crime here too. Exsessive yes - evil not necissarily
The writing was inconsistent because Arthelais stated that she is a child of war, never deserving to be loved and to love and later on when she was telling Gunnar about her time in the Motherworld forces she mentioned that in the academy they were encouraged to find a lover who they can fight for and protect, so which is which? 🤷🏽♂️
This is the curse of all modern filmmaking - dragging everything out way too long. The next director who comes along that knows how to tell a compelling story in 80 minutes + credits is going to be a rock star.
Slow motion should be a last resort used sparingly like minimal slowdown for brief periods and to enhance the overall composition. Where it does work: as the culmination of a series of increasingly fast cuts in a boxing match, one slow motion shot of the punch knocking someone senseless, not very slow, only to make something highly significant just long enough to see that would otherwise last a fraction of a second. Where it doesn't work: just cutting to an extreme slow mo shot of someone walking so they go from walking slowly to barely moving at all and it just hold on it showing off all the rich detail but, what is important? What is happening here that I need to focus on. It just seems like it's showing off what a high speed camera they have.
@@Treblaine What you're seeing is the latest generation of filmmakers who saw "The Matrix" as teenagers and thought "yeah, bullet time is cool, let's do more of that". All flash and visuals, no understanding of story or narrative structure because they grew up on TV and movies instead of reading novels and short stories.
I just watched this movie with my brothers and was constantly asking 'why' during the entire thing. This is the mindset of this village a few days' ride away form a neutral spaceport: "Evil guys came by to ask for our supplies which we don't have enough of because we sold them to the rebels, we don't line up our lies (despite being in the same room when the first lie was said) and things go tits up so our leader is executed. They say they'll return to rob and kill us in a few months and leave a band of evil mooks who wanted to assault little girls behind but our resident STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER girlbossed these bad guys into a grave. Should we leave? Nah, it'll be fine. If we work hard we can give them our stuff they will like us enough to not just not murder us after we fulfilled our purpose of letting them resupply, they will also probably leave us enough to survive the winter!" And then the protagonist, instead of leaving to let these morons win a Darwin award like she planned, decides to go recruit the rebel army and a general to save them with, even though they end up not being needed because the final battle takes place somewhere unrelated. Also, why was this little village on a planet on the ass-end of no-where populated with people that spoke in a mix of heavy accents that were, as far as I could tell, from Scandinavian countries, several parts of Great Britain and one obviously Dutch guy?
The simple fact that in one monologue she states she doesn't know if she could love or be loved because they beat love out of her as weakness only to then in the next monologue state that at the academy they were told to find a lover for those moment when abstract conquest didn't bind them. I was like, man, they did zero effort on the world building for this.
Recruits a woman who has learned the destruction caused by seeking revenge and actively avoids it..... THE VERY NEXT SCENE...... "Hey wanna get revenge?" Unreal levels of hackery
I think that just shows that the vast majority of people feel oppressed by the kingdom. The dude that found everyone to put the crew together, planned on selling them out. He specifically chose people who were dangerous and already fought against the kingdom. Convincing those specific people to join a resistance group shouldn’t have been that hard.
@@RinseRepeatEatThe presentation was terrible though, I think you’re being too charitable. The entire film was just picking up champions one by one to fight a big threat. There’s no other substance or character to the story (thus far). The biggest issue I had was Tarak. Why did he have to wait for the protagonists to greet him for him to free himself? Did the beast arrive just before the protagonists got there? Id the beast was there all this time we have a plot hole and if it wasn’t we have a massive coincidence. Either way it is shoddy writing.
That was my reaction.. I told my friend, video game stories have more complexity lol. I enjoyed it as a turn brain off, watch shit explode, see a new world kinda way, but knew it was not.. good lol
I'm glad you mentioned the slo-mo overuse. It started off funny but then became agonising to watch. I fell like the film could be half an hour shorter without the slo-mo.
My brother (who is in his third year of film school) started watching this movie on a whim and I made the regrettable decision to join him. If I hadn't he would have quite watching after the 15 minute mark. We ended up watching both movies pausing regularly to use our cinematography knowledge to pick apart everything that was bad about it. At the end of the first movie, my brother said the sobering line that really cut to the heart of why we hated these two movies and Zack Snyder: "Why did I bother going to film school and work myself half to death when this is what passes for a movie these days?" The depth to which Zack Snyder plumbs the possibilities of lazy and incompetent cinematography is absolutely incredible.
You know whats also weird? The soldier that tried to help the farm girl never shows up again even though he probably should have become part of the rebel team giving he fought back against them
He probably will make a comeback in the next episode with the farm girl. They didn't really give any motive why that soldier decided to betray his comrades like that to begin with.
@fireboy1996 he was giving the intended farm girl victim the 'side eye' when he got off the ship. Clearly the love interest for part 2 when it is revealed that she is the Princess and that is why the robot was able to reinstate his shooting mode...
@@fireboy1996 eh he didn't really need a reason, everyone earlier treated him like garbage, he was the only soldier on the farm with a moral compass or the only one actually doing his job
Exactly! The way they clearly set him up to be one of the rebel members and then just dropping him from the movie. Same as the robot. He shows up at the beginning, shoots a guy, then disappears until the literal very end of the movie where it acts like he was some major character.
Exactly! For a moment I thought I had a micro-stroke when next scene shows Sofia Boutella's character with the farm guy looking for rebels at the cantina. I was like, "where's the soldier guy?". Isn't he a traitor at this point? Shouldn't he be on the journey with them? Why leave the robot behind as well? And the worst part is, if we moved some characters around the complete lack of story wouldn't really change that much.
Okay, so let me get this straight. a Galactic Empire is at war with a Rebellion in the fringes, and the main character is a farmer on a far away planet? Yeah totally not Starwars guys.
It felt like a fan fiction set in the extended Start Wars universe using a script and direction from a mid-season episode of Andromeda or Farscape, with CGI from an Unreal Engine demo. Or a really long graduation project by a decent VFX student trying to get a job at Lucasfilm without getting slammed for copyright infringement.
Also with Warhammer 40K mixed in. They even used terms directly from the game, and had people who seemed straight from the tabletop. "Mechanicus" is basically ripped right out of Warhammer 40k, and the priest dudes and uniforms also seem that way. The king basically being the Emperor who conquered the universe for the Empire, or the Motherland in this movie. Its almost as if he wanted to make a more dark Star Wars, with heavy influences from the Warhammer 40k tabletop game, but its not dark enough for that, nor cool enough. Just bland. I was actually kind of excited when I saw what seemed to be hints at a Warhammer 40k inspired movie but it just fell flat as hell.
@@TheDestructodave520 Isn´t this level of ripping off illegal? I haven´t seen this dumpsterfire and I don´t plan to, but literally everyone who saw it points out scenes directly copying scenes from other movies.
@@Mouse_Metal I dunno what's illegal or not but I immediately recognized the Warhammer 40k terminology and influences. They did rip terms like "Mechanicus" straight out of the game.
My laptop is pretty old and I was thinking: "This is it, it's dying. I can't even see the images anymore." But thankfully, just then you explained that the film's visuals were actually this dark.
The final fight was utter bull. Bloodaxe man somehow smashed through the glass of a starship with a metal spear... Then the gunner is shown to have been in control of said starship and it crashes!! That makes the SSD Executor's destruction looks sensible...
No capital ship would be that badly designed. I don't think any ship in real naval history would have had such a completely idiotic design. And if you use aeroplane parallels instead of ship ones then again why would a pilot be the gunner too? I know sometimes entertainment is shallow but this hurts my head.
@@undead9999 Yes that could explain it but there seems to be more to it than just the voice acting. It seems the animation of the droid has something special going on.
I laughed so much at the end. This bunch of "heroes" all stood together after the final battle. I was like, who the hell are any of these? We haven't even gotten to know any of them and they did absolutely nothing in the fighting 🤣😂
I agree, it was baffling. They lost possibly the most useful member of the team taking down a small drop ship and acted like they had struck a huge blow to a galactic empire.
I've always thought Snyder was one of the most overrated filmmakers in the past 20 years. Sure I enjoyed 300, and The Watchmen, and I don't get the hate for Man of Steel, but most of his stuff has been terribly mediocre. Even the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League was crap imo
It's the marvel effect. Everyone is trying to recreate avengers endgame completely missing the fact that it took 10 years of movies to get there. Also missing the fact that marvel movies were the cinematic equivalent of a theme park but who cares about our art we got into this business for the cash.
@@Marque734even then what they can do is not very unique or interesting, generic asian lady with swords, generic big black soldier guy, generic washed up old legend, generic openly untrustworthy character who is somehow trusted for some reason, generic civilian character who then has his epic moment, generic main character who betrayed the evil empire and conveniently was the deadliest soldier ever, despite the fact that the more trained a soldier is the more loyal they become as their identity becomes more and more associated with their country and role as a soldier.
This whole movie remided me of that rick and morty episode where they keep getting more people for a heist. The whole time they went to meet or hire someone all i could think was: "You son of a bitch im in"
I'm just surprised no one in the comments (Drinker And the video included) Mentioned all the countless similarities to Warhammer 40k and Dune. They're quite literally is not a single solitary original idea or moment in this entire movie. Truly, The final whimper of a long dead Directorial Career
Zack Snyder has never heard the old filmmaking adage, "show, don't tell," apparently. So much exposition! Exposition probably eats up more screen time than the slow-mo, which is saying something in a Snyder film.
He’s desperate for a cinematic universe of his own.. so much so he’s greenlighted a bunch of spin-offs that are probably gonna get cancelled like his “Army of The Dead universe” which is apparently set in THIS universe 🤦🏽♂️
He actually did show and didn't tell a lot in his DC trilogy, but y'all complained about it because you are too dumb to pay attention to what's going on on the screen, so now you hate him because he's gone the total opposite of that.
For real… I felt like so much of this movie was contrived scenes where the entire interaction between two characters is one “telling” the other some worldbuilding through flashback lmao. And it kept happening over and over.
Thank you Drinker for experiencing these dumpster fires so we don’t have to. I’ve said it before, your reviews are the best thing about these films, far more entertaining than the films themselves. Probably not worth the millions flushed down the commode though
if you pay me millions of dollars i do the necessary pre physical training too... a job is a job right? mad respect for getting paid and exercising? okay...suit yourself.
*Given the fact that these characters change their minds* after being badgered for 20 seconds to join this ragtag team - imagine if they face the bad guys in part 2 - the bad guys make a proposal and they IMMEDIATELY change sides to the bad guys - cos they’re so easily persuaded 💀
@Simon-xc5oy - No, they’ll release part 2 and if it’s still the same. Rebel Moon’s universe *is done* . This is why I can’t blame WB for letting him go - as stupid as they are - this is what happens when Zack Snyder cooks 🤷🏾♂️
@@Simon-xc5oyit’s been made and also it’s been viewed by so many people, the great thing about streaming is they don’t give a damn about critics and YTs stating nonsense things and being over emotional about some movies whilst loving other movies that’s on the same level
watch the R rated version . It fleshes out this much better and it is not a woke movie and does not press THE MESSAGE in either version, Sorry you just don't like Zach
It's rare to find a movie which contains so many errors, inconsistencies, brainless sub-plots and then combine all those precious failures with bad acting. But they managed to pull it off.
if i can add something just from what i can see in this video the sword play feels slower than if kids were playing like is that real speed? is it in slow mow or is the person with the swords like 88?
I couldn't get through it. My dad and I gave it a try, but I had a sinking feeling almost immediately watching Kora dramatically dragging her fingers through the earth and smelling it while Farmboy stares awestruck at her. My eyes rolled back in my head and almost got stuck there. By the time Sword woman was fighting Spider Lady, we were just... why are they there? Did we doze off and miss a plot point? We might have. But finally we just gave it up and went back to re-watching Stargate Atlantis.
Why the hell were they all just standing there while the sword lady and farmer John fought the spider that’s what I don’t understand… they had guns they could have also fighting he spider lady.
That was the feeling I was left with as well. The pacing is terrible. The editing literally made it feel like I fell asleep and woke up later, multiple times.
"There's a lot of slow motion. The episodes were running up to 8 minutes under, the only way to stretch them out was with slow motion. We tried to keep the slow motion away from the dialogue as much as possible but anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion" - Dean Learner - Garth Marenghi's Dark Place.
I think unoriginal is the key point for this one. I kept thinking the whole time that it was almost identical to star wars. also, the scene where they get the prince and he 'tames' the hippogriff was straight out of the harry potter. The spider scene was very lord of the rings. The slo-mo was very matrix-y.
Long lost princess to save the kingdom/galaxy? Check Evil antagonist that gets "killed off" only to be saved at the end through a medical procedure and come back even more evil? Check Glowing swords? Check A band of misfits that have to work together for a common cause? Check Someone who doesn't belong but learns along the way how to be with people? Check Energy blasters? Check Weird creatures? Check A bar scene with bounty hunters that ends in a fight? Check A robot that gets repurposed to help? Check Does it sound familiar to anyone?
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Please do not mention that abomination. The sooner it disappears from humanities collective memory the better. Original trilogy was dope though.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I might be the 1% of humanity that actually found ME Andromeda fun and interesting. It's not on the level of the original trilogy not even close but as a standalone sci-fi story within that same universe it did the job it was supposed to do.
4:30 How could You not feel anything? The scene left me in total disbelief as 1 lever from side turret panel could doom entire huge ship like there were no bridge or even any other personel at all... This was part I did not sleep thru and I could not comprehend how stupid it was.
I suspect that movies today are being designed, not written. The director comes up with a list of fantastical shots he wants to bring to the screen and then tries to connect them all into a story. The result is dispassionate and disconnected, with no regard to the actual characters which are just vehicles to get us to the next cool shot. AI won't have to struggle hard to replace writers if this is the new trend in Hollywood.
I don't know if I will apply that to all movies, but that is 100% pure Snyder. A list of "moments" that he thinks will be cool on film and a shabby shell of a movie draped around them.
Yep! What would he do with the grain anyways… you can’t eat grain - you need to mill it into flour and bake bread! The super villain can go and rob a store/storage instead… Plus the non- believable female “warrior” characters…
Yea, that bugged me the whole time. That massive warship, and countless "dollars" in labor, just to harass a few local moisture farmers ... i mean grain farmers ... for a pittance? Really? But Star Wars has been doing that since 1977. Zero new stuff to this movie, but I still enjoyed it. Reminded me of the other SciFi movie people hated called Juipter Ascending.
The atmosphere is the first and last thing in this film that I fell in love with. Everything else is stupid and inadequate. Heroes and villains are stupid and inadequate. And the main female character weighing 60 kg moves as if she were a hulking Argentinosaurus weighing 80 tons.
I thought initially it was going to be like a space version of A history of violence - ie highly trained killer trying to live a normal life is slowly forced to reveal themselves, protecting the things they love. Might have been a bit more interesting.
mate i watched this shit last night Ive no idea what it was about other than that some diversity hire was asked to film a script that another diversity hire wrote and as an idiot just went to all the last 40 years of scifi and fantasy films and stole long clips of them, Then stitched them together in this 2 hours of dog shit The lead role women apart from being like 8 stone and watching her beating up numbers of grown killers is ridiculous is ugly as fuck and the protagonist i ended up feeling sorry for him It was like Riddick meets willow No idea why half of the film is even in the film Its a pile of garbage
This is what a movie without proper "directing" looks like, there was no director ,per se, just a self engorged asshole talking shit because he had the control over the budget.
There were multiple scenes where there was super dramatic music and slow-mo over some character fighting or supposedly in dire danger and all I cloud think was "Who the hell are these people?". Not that I didn't know who the new characters were, just that the movie seemed to expect us to give a wet fart about the fate of a character thats had around 30 seconds of screen time before then.
I watched this while wrapping presents Christmas eve. I was in a good mood and the film kept me company. I overall liked the movie, despite agreeing with all the criticisms outlined here. Mainly, it was too serious all the time, they didn't do well establishing the characters (maybe because there were too many), and by far the biggest issue was the leading lady could not carry the role with the gravitas a few scenes needed. her lines were delivered without a trace of character. It was still somewhat entertaining though.
I watched this twice (once on my own and once with my sisters)...I still know nothing about who the warriors were or why they were even hired. How can a movie have so little happen, yet feel so long?
I never liked a single movie of zack snyder besides his first feature film, dawn of the dead. Bu from than on he just made shit movies. @@denkerbosu3551
Seven Samurai worked because the heart of that movie is the character development--but that all happens in the *preparation of the defense* not in the gathering of the players. There's a reason why Kurosawa only spends ... what, 30m? ... on the setup; all that's needed is to give us the basic character sketch. The bulk of the movie is watching our players work with each other and the villagers, and seeing how they *grow and change* over that experience. The fight at the end isn't really the *climax,* it's the *denouement* where we see how our players have changed in relation to themselves, each other, and the villagers. Snyder stretches the gathering of the players, but then *fails to use that time* to do any of this work--so when Generic Rebel bites it, the *only* person who cares is Discount Furiosa--and the *only reason we know this* is because *she straight-up tells us in her first line.* Also, the reason the *plot* of Seven Samurai even works is because the antagonist *is a bandit* and bandits don't have a *bench.* You beat them once and they're gone. Here, *it's an interplanetary empire.* How, exactly, is this supposed to play out? "My liege, they have destroyed our squadron." "Fine, send the fleet." Yes yes, spark that lights the fire and all that, but *we aren't shown that these conditions even exist.* Generic Rebel's sister actually tells us they *don't* exist, because they don't have sufficient force to take on the *squadron* much less the *fleet.* So ... yeah, that pretty much made me laugh out loud.
@@Panz82 He's making the comparison because the plot is very similar to Seven Samurai. It's a basic story that gets retold every now and again, with varying degrees of success. (See Magnificent Seven, Battle Beyond the Stars, The Seven Magnificent Galdiators, etc, etc)
I thought it was a bit dull and there were barely any character interactions outside of Kora and the Seed-Counter (I don't remember his name or anyone else's). Whilst there were a lot of interesting ideas tossed at the wall, we barely had time to process anything before it switched to the next time. It's quite a whiplash effect to have the characters travel to different places, barely explore said places, say a few lines, kill a few threats and then scurry off to find the next one-dimensional teammate. Nemesis was cool but her entire character, much like everyone else's, didn't have much depth at all. In fact, the entire run, I was making pot-shots at certain scenes for being too similar to other movies. The Bird-Flying Scene? How to Train Your Dragon. The Port and Tavern? Star Wars The Underground City? Arcane Hell, the androids looked like Zenyatta's people, the soldiers looked like they'd been shipped from Terra Venture and the main admiral villain looks like a North Korean General. It's... weird. Ngl.
@@dark_winter8238 i am being a bit cutting for the purposes of the joke lol, irony aside I'll give Snyder the benefit of the doubt until we see what Part 2 delivers
What ultimately kills it for me is that the characters failed to earn my investment. There were no fun side characters like R2D2 or C3P0, no interesting arcs like Zuko’s Redemption or Anakin’s fall from grace, no unique arts to learn like the Force or Airbending, it was like all the previous movies but with no heart or soul.
I think the main character annoyed me the most partly because I LOVE roleplaying and writing those edgy ass characters with sad/violent backstories. The whole fun of them is the mystery, and strained interactions with others gradually giving way to real bonds and softer moments as they learn to open up. Cora (kora? idk how it's meant to be spelled) just kind of... dumps her horrific past on Farmer Boy for no reason??? "i need you to know who i am" is what she says, but WHY? the mission would not be changed. his motivation has nothing to do with her, and whilst it's useful for the AUDIENCE to know in order to understand her own motivation. if you need such a lazy exposition scene to get across important information about your main character to the viewer, then maybe it's time to rewrite a few things
I watched the film and honestly brain dumped it immediately. I may not be able to get that time back, but I'll be damned if I waste memory storage on it.
It took me 7 hours to watch this movie because i had to watch it in intervals to keep my eyes from melting and brain exploding. I really went into this with hopes of something good. This made Jupiter Ascending feel like and academy award winning space opera!
I loved Jupiter Rising, wtf? The awful diverse sewage from the last few years isnt even on the same level as Jupiter Rising Im laughing at you for even bei g surprised zAk sNyDeR was a fkn loser
What a sad time it is for film. I get more enjoyment from watching The Critical Drinker and Pitch Meetings shit on the newest movies than I would if I actually watched them. Make Film Making Great Again!
@@zogwort1522 I never mentioned sci-fi movies, I said “film” as a whole. And my comment is about the current state of film. No one said there aren’t good older movies. Not sure what point you’re trying to make and to who.
This review has talked me into spending my extra day off this weekend back to backing these train wrecks so i can have one final laugh at the career that destroyed DC.
The funniest thing was the ending....and having the droid standing there and we're all like "so .... why is THAT guy standing there like that??" Oh...because Zach imagined ANOTHER "wouldn't that be cool" visual.
The thing that gets me is the bewildering timescale. The king and Princess apparently ruled in ancient times, such a long time ago that religions and mythology have built up about them - but it's about 5 years. I have socks older than that, and they haven't developed a religion of non-violence against other socks.
Kinda also like Heroes... they cancelled it after 4 seasons... but then gave the guy a chance to "do something different" and came out with Heroes Reborn and it was exactly like the original series. He didn't fix anything. He paced it exactly the same. Wrote it exactly the same. And I was thinking to myself... MAN... you had a second chance! How often do you get that in TV? Especially with science fiction!!! You blew it. You'll never get a season 2... and... he didn't... It's almost like writers don't know how to learn...
Star Wars + The Magnificent Seven = Battle Beyond the Stars, which is probably one of the best movies Roger Corman produced in the 80s. If you haven't checked that one out, watch it as a palette cleanser to this movie.
Plus it's got George Peppard, Robert Vaughn, John Saxon and John Boy from the Waltons heading up the group. There's a great Bluray, packed with extras, from Shout Factory.
@miketocci Yes, i definitely agree that it's worth the watch. Sure, it's corny at many times, but sci-fi back then was corny much of the time. Yet the characters were well-done and you had a bit of an investment in them. That made it a tragedy when some of them died defending the poor homeworld.
My wife and I decided to drink every time there was a slow-mo shot, and we finished the film with alchohol poisoning.
Try drinking when they say “a farmer”. They must have said it 15. Times in an hour.
@bayareachicano7452its cuz u are not a sane person 🥲
Do you need liver replacement?
Slow motion shots are a little much I agree 😅
lmfao
It was easy to tell the brother would die. He had all the tells.
1. He was a strong male character
2. He was charismatic, and had the ability to compel others to do what he thought was right
3. Most telling of all, he had a sister with all the same traits....
Lol yup, the modern day road map with all boxes checked.
Exactly, and we can never allow a sister to be shaded by an overly competent male sibling. So it's off to the land of the courageous but meaningless self-sacrifice. Adieu, farewell and goodbye.
I hate how Dijimon is wasted in almost everything he’s in nowadays - *Bare in Mind* this was the guy who outshined Leonardo Dicaprio in Blood Diamond.. I need to see him as a lead again.
He could have lived but chose to die for absolutely no reason.
@@jonfreeman9682 He died for a reason... Of course the reason is so that his sister can shine, but it was the reason...
What killed it for me is when the idiots (main characters) go to the local Moss Esley and speak, in public, in a bar, of the people they must contact. They give names out loud…Jesus, in real life that would have been the end of the rebellion right there.
How dare you question the reasoning of our protagonist? A war hero. Valedictorian of the imperial military academy. Napoleon come again. Surely you fail to see the tactical genius of letting the scum and villains in on your business.
When the audience is stupid, the writing can be stupid.
And if you're shelling out money to see about 99% of anything released within the last 5 or so years, you're stupid.
I can't even find a movie at home, in my recliner, with multiple streaming apps at my disposal. I'll surf for a half hour, not even finding a "maybe" candidate.
Its like they've taken away all the good movies and switched them with idiotic clones.
The theater is just a magnetized version of this. About 99% is unwatchable.
Yeah 100%.
I'm a former criminal and we avoid using eachother birthname like the plague. Especially in public places and on the phone.
Each and everyone of us had nicknames and aliases... Often several for different levels of "circle" around us. It's as common as using a burner phone.
Not saying criminal is the same as rebel, but i'd expect actual rebels to be smart enough to use these precautions too unless they're very high profile.
@@user-pc5qj2ix2cits also such an easy opportunity for a bit of levity with their codenames
The whole thing was nonsense, the plot was just going location to location to meet people. It was absurd.
Snyder is a textbook example of a great cinematographer that should not have been promoted to director.
Zack Snyder is the director most hated by wankers, but we like his films, when some cry and make stupid videos like this, he continues to gain visibility and success all over the world, cry more losers😂😂😂🤣
Very true that’s exactly how I feel about Rian Johnson.
this movie looks like shit lmao
@@johnny.V03bro makes good movies tho. Except for last Jedi
@@johnny.V03 Johnson is very much capable of writing excellent movies.
But whoever thought "this man should do Star wars" should have been fired on the spot.
This is how i imagine AI generated movies to be. Loads of popular cool ideas all mashed together in a way that superficially appears coherent. I guess character emotional development and acting within character are much more difficult for AI to replicate
AI isn't evil because it's bad at replicating humans, it's evil because it's so good. You'll never know when you're watching an AI movie. For all you know, you might've seen some already.
@@thecandlemaker1329 go ask ChatGPT to write an episode of your favourite sitcom. Then come back and write that again.
@@Marque734It's still in its infancy. A year ago it couldn't even do that.
Spot on.
@@thecandlemaker1329 AI can only be as smart and/or good as the humans feeding it with data
In 1977 I was standing in line at the cinema with my mom, dad & sister when the usher came out counting. No word of a lie, he made a chopping motion directly in front of us and said "That is it folks. We're full." It was the first time I ever remember my dad swearing. No one can ever take that memory from me. We came back the next day and got to see it. Han shot first.
Beautiful story, i almost wept.
@@DarrenMarsh-kx8hd I’m clenching my phone as I poop it’s really hard making me sweat Reading this
I went to the cinema on a Friday after work back in 79,because Ide heard about this movie called Star Wars ,I stayed till 2:30 in the morning,just going out to get another ticket then straight back in for the next session, then did it again the next Friday ,fell asleep on the train going home ,woke up to find the train I was in had been put in a yard ,finally got home at 6 in the morning to my petrified mother who had called me in to the police as a missing person, ah yes that’s what Star Wars did to me
One day in 1977, I went to the theater to watch a movie, didn't know which I'd choose. Saw the publicity pics in the lobby for one, some sci fi thing with a guy standing near what I thought was an unusual monorail car. Thought "Why not?" Watched the film, walked back outside to see a line stretching into the parking lot. Got back in the queue and didn't even mind the wait. That is my introduction to the "Star Wars" story. Spent each night the next week watching that flick, then tapered off to once or twice a week.
As cheesy as that reel of celluloid is, no other film has had that kind of effect on me.
The second you said, "In 1977 I was standing in line..." I knew what you were talking about. I had nearly the same experience. I was cut from the first showing and saw Empire of the Ants instead, but I stayed up for a Star Wars that night.
Look on the bright side.
Now Henry Cavill has an exact map of what not to do with 40k
Cavill will nail it if Amazon doesn’t ruin it with the weird s*** they like to do. LOTR show was a disaster….
75% of the movie was putting the band together, and once that happened there was no time for them to do anything before the big showdown lol
There wasn’t even the showdown they planned they just fought a some port when the trailers showed them fighting in the village
It’s virtually a shot for shot remake of 1954 seven samurai made by Akira Kirasawa
@@player_566-1 there's 2 movies. the 2nd one has the village fight in it, it's literally half the 2nd movie.
The droid isn’t the only character who disappears. In the beginning, the one ‘innocent’ soldier helps Cora stop the other soldiers from raping that girl. Then that soldier just disappears as well. I thought for sure he’d end up helping them fight the Empire, but he just, disappears from the narrative.
He'll be back for part 2
Lol great point, they gave him a bunch of screen time even some lines just to chuck him to the side, pretty stupid.
Couldn't help but notice that too.
It's almost like this is half of a two-part movie or something....
He'll be back? I won't
Is Hugo Boss the only fashion designer in the galaxy ?
Right?! I was like “What are these Nazi ass outfits doing in this movie?” 💀
No... but he should be.
" is Hugo boss the only fashion designer in the galaxy?"
God I wish
AFguides, you here? lol
@@aaronwalker1549nazis are based tho
I found the opening pretty good, basically right up until the antagonist guy landed to talk to the farmers and that was when it all started going off the rails for me. The idea of this huge space-faring empire still needing to exploit basic resources like grain to survive, sounded interesting. It suggested that even food is somewhat scarce in the far reaches of the galaxy, even if this particular village isn't starving.
But. There's a GIANT FUCKIN SPACEPORT CITY a few miles away from the village? The empire guys wouldn't just go there and raid that city for food immediately, why exactly? Why was it preferable for them to waste time hassling a little village of like a hundred medieval peasants for food? (and who don't even HAVE the food yet, they are literal months away from producing said food)
My thinking on that has to do with reoccurring grain. They’d get what they want from the farmer and maybe not the space port
So long term over short I guess
Was pretty good movie.
Did they supply the space port? Remember they had to sell the grain to somewhere before vacuum cleaner salesman turned space pirate showed up
I agree. I was interested up until then. It combined 2 of my passions; sci fi and horticulture. lol. And Sophie Boutella looked gorgeous… but she’s no action heroine. What is she, 5’5, 115lbs? A least cast a well built woman. I can see Elliot Page being cast as Superman next . It just got worse until I just had to switch it off around the time of that bar fight. I might have made about an hour before tapping out.
@@jimmydigital screaming insecurity that is what ur commenting only
I'm normally pretty easy going with sci fi as i find the worldbuilding as interesting as the actual plot but it was just all over the place. I still don't understand the world. You have a warhammer style empire, but we learned next to nothing about it.
There's a viking farming village for some reason which has orgies in the hopes that it convinces the gods to make their plants grow, since they've decided the only modern technology they're going to use are automatic doors, and that's an overnight hike from a western style town with a space port and a load of aliens which where never explained or expanded on so fuck knows if they're part of the empire, have civilisations outside the empire or fought the empire, and there's an Irish guy. There was a cyber punk city where Asian people use swords for honor because we've not moved on from that cliche, and spider women who apparently used to own the planet and so kidnap children, no need to expand on that. A roman colleseum, don't know what the fuck that was about, but i expected to see Russell Crowe wandering around in the background and then at some point conan the barbarian went to an American ranch at hogwarts to train a hippogriff using a slow motion spell or something, I think I zoned out at that part.
Lol I thought it was very much a hippogriff tamed like a Pandoran banshee by Aquaman
It's criminal to not mention how HEAVILY this movie was inspired by warhammer 40k. The robot literally says he's part of the "Mechanicus Militarium". The soldiers main gun looks identical to a bolter except scaled down. The general astetic of "The Empire" fits more with 40k than starwars and the plot of the royal family sounds like something ripped straight from the 40k wiki. To top it all off, the basic grunts look IDENTICAL to 40k guardsmen just with slightly different texture and color of the armor.
At least we now know who we don't want to direct any Warhammer media.
I felt the same way! They even call the Empire Imperium...
So much blatant 40k rip offs in this.
I haven't seen it, but watching this, the ship looks like they tried to ape the silhouette of an Imperium of Man ship, but with no hard edges, all curves.
@@marinesinspace6253 There are definite nods to or blatant takes from Warhammer 40k in this movie. I noticed it almost from the start. Maybe if they'd have leaned into it more and gone more grim dark, it might have been halfway decent. Unfortunately, it's pretty damned generic once you get about halfway through the movie.
It was so weird seeing all the heroes they gathered for this mission... *AND NONE OF THEM TALK OR INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER*
interacting is overrated, we need to add more slow motion to the slow motion and use a camera with a flawed lens that makes everything blurry
I also cannot be done with all this "caring or empathising with the character" malarkey to install some actual sense of high stakes and jeopardy. Just throw in some more 'splosions please. @@marcogenovesi8570
They probably did have those scenes recorded but realized that their acting was so awful that they should probably just not include them.
@@nandoman4769they should have just given more screen time to the lady who was from Sense8
@arcademan09 YES. I just said same thing it's so weird. They gather them all up give them a little intro then we only see them again shooting things slo mo. 😂.
I love how the guy at the end takes out 1 gunner on the side and that somehow brings down the whole giant ship.
😂😂😂
Because the gunner shot their balance system underneith. At least that is what bloodaxe did.
Zack Snyder won 4 raspberry awards for Batman vs Superman WHAT DID you expect. This is the problem with Hollywood instead of hiring new talent they are just spreading the money with their rich friends. If I wanted to start a Syfy franchise I wouldn't hire someone who won 4 raspberry awards. This is beyond stupid
And what does a raspberry award tell you about anything? How about you watch a film for itself and decide for yourself? Wow. Such a weird concept.
@@Whaddayamean13 Anything made by Zack Snyder is going to be Yelling at the camera long and boring slow motion scenes. Long exposition dumps and long dramatic pauses. I know this because I have deductive reasoning skills. Plus I do my homework plus I follow the evidence. Anymore dumb questions
@@Whaddayamean13 Oh no, another snyder groupie. That movie won 4 raspberry awards because it was LAUGHABLY bad. Now go watch some 4 hours long "snydercut" version of it
@@Whaddayamean13 I saw the trailers for all his recent films, and did not even PIRATE them, they are that generic and overblown.
He was exposed since "Suckerpunch" as talentless hack, riding on better scripts.
Alan Moore deserves MULTIPLE apologies.
@@ynraider thanks for your contribution
The Anthony Hopkins Robot was the most interesting character in the movie. It kept me watching in hopes to see it murdering people but that never happened, then it went all caveman at the very end.
I felt exacly the same, I was waiting and holding on to see this robot again and its purpose. I hope it will be important in part 2, otherwise its even worse.
I thought he would come back in the climax..but wtf was the point of the robot
@@bathtub_barracuda lets hope for part 2 😆 Why would they have anthony hopkins voice a robot, if the only part was, 1 talk, 1 shot and 1 dressup...
Don't worry it's going to be the number seven and you don't need to wait for the second part of this film, try watching the "magnificent seven", you have saloons, horses, a farm, bad people and seven good guys (not women unfortunately) if you want a touch of Japan with swords, watch the "seven samurai"
The robot was a stupid idea. First off, it's a robot : why wouldn't they reprogram it if it stops following orders ? Why expend resources in its maintenance ? Just to have someone carry shit ? And then there's the "blushing LED's" on its face. What's the point, besides letting it "emote" because the script needs it and the audience is deemed too thick to understand without visual cues. Seriously, imagine the engineers designing that thing : "oh, guys, don't forget to add LED's so it can blush, that will be super important on the battlefield". I'm sure they were all high on drugs when they wrote that crap.
Not only did it fail as a movie, it failed to fail in a way Drinker could spend more than 5 minutes analyzing.
"GO AWAY NOOOW!!!"😁
😆👍👍@@mkk-un9nz
Best comment I've seen. I don't think the Drinker even expended two beers for this critique.
Wait till mauler carves it up
@@erickortiz6806 Those are gonna be some premium cuts.
keep in mind Godzilla Minus One was made with like 1/10 of the budget that this movie got
I'm seriously starting to think that these 100+ million budget movies are just money laundry schemes at this point
If Godzilla Minus One had a 2/10 of the budget, maybe they could get Godzilla’s arms to move or make the derpy face a little more animated.
@@TheCarter117Gaming That would be a betrayal of the source material.
What? This was 100+ million? lmao I would have though maybe half that at most...
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep according to some articles Rebel Moon Part one had a budget of 165 million USD
@@TimoCruz177 wow now that makes zero sense with what we ended up seeing. And it's not like they paid these no name actors big paychecks either. It never had an all star cast, it never even had 1 lol. All no names.
Another Female Character without any flaws or struggle story what they presented as her backstory was essentially parents die but you are great at everything from birth. Even at the presented height of her ability she had no weakness, no need to rely on her group members. No over confidence or self doubt. Just "Badass bitch, ima slay" was the only narrative. Missing one all important aspect of good character writing, flaws. For example, Guardians of the Galaxy and say Quill, was that he was very broken as a character but the group each with their own unique ability made up for the deficiencies he had, it made him an endearing and relatable. But there is zero attempt at this, in this film. Much like every film produced in the last 5 years.
The physical strength she possessed in melee was absurd given her frame is tiny and I was left questioning how somebody with no implants or obvious upper body weight can put tall physically built male soldiers onto the ground. I really tried to identify with her and I love female protagonists in other films where they understand there are different strengths to brute force and they work around that with technique, dexterity and agility. But this was just ridiculous, the whole performance screamed "bulls**t".
If we have to go down the world where all protagonists *have* to now be female, or diverse. Can you for the love of god, atleast write a decent character story arc. One where they have flaws and are not just born omnipotent.
Did u not listen how she was Trained by the Imperium no ?…l but i did notice the femboy in the guardsmen in the shack
Down with feminism
@@DaraGaming42 I mean its just more lazy writing. other movies we see the main characters grueling training and overcoming it, can these female protagonists not get the same chance. I like what OP brought up about “boss bitch imma slay” because we do seem to be at this point where female protagonists are trying to make up for some lack of a spotlight but in doing so forgets everything they need to be a good character 😂
@@sugabopp have you seen the movie? There is no writing just a collage of 'cool' scene filled with hollow archetype
Stupid take. Her whole struggle is that she doesn't want to fight again, because she was trained by the space fashies.
The biggest issue in this action movie is the bad action. Every character has plot armour until they don't. Guns are drawn but no one can aim, until they need to, and the heroes who are held at gunpoint constantly manage to draw their weapons and start shooting before those who are threatening to kill them manage to get a shot off. And back to the aim, the heroes rarely move from their original position right away and just stand there shooting a few times before finally taking cover. It's very bizarre and makes no sense.
Wtf stop posting shit. No one wants this.
hahahaha we didn't watch the same movie 😂😂😂😂
@@JPmaxlevelWhat!? OP is totally right
Exactly! The movement of sofia is exagerated and the actions in this movie is so bad
Like 90% of action movies
The most annoying thing in the movie was that the high tech empire for some reason needed the grain from some poor agricultural colony.
Well, you can look at it as a cationary tale. We live in some kind of "high tech" civilisation. But GMO do not work as advertised, hydroponics can not work at the scale we need, and we can not eat bitcoins... No grains, no food, no people...
Well, they would still need food and it was probably useful as a form of suppression.
Yeah it seemed odd that they expect us to get behind the idea that a galaxy spanning empire wants to feed its army w/the product produced from a single small village that farms exclusively through muscle w/out any advanced farming tech. How much food can they possibly make? If an army in that setting needs food they gonna need way more than that, and they are the official army so they probably have money to simply buy. The village is just way too insignificant to have the importance accorded to it that it apparently has. A galaxy spanning empire wouldn't send armies out without provisions or an established means to get needed provisions. Such an army would still need to resupply, but there'd be some sort of system in place to provide for this supply. If they just raid their own lands for food, if that's their system, this could result in oppression of farmers, sure, but it would be a trickle down effect, the army would just show up at a depot that sells food in the bulk quantities it needs and in the great variety it needs, and processed already, and buy or requisition it by legal right at which point the depot owners would pass the expense on down the line, and that's where the oppression would come from. They wouldn't go farm to farm manually collecting the unprocessed food product themselves. And this village makes grains or whatever, so they'd go through a lot of effort, harming their own empire in the process, harming future ongoing supplies, and they'd get a bunch of unprocessed grains as a result. And why does this moon with good soil have only one village making food on it.
I didn't hate the movie. Had fun watching hte action scenes. Was worth the watch for free as a surprise offering through netflix. But stuff like the above was like a splinter in my mind as I watched. With more splinters to come as I progressed.
A bit like Russia's invasion of Ukraine
That was just a regiment not the entire empire. Why do you presume to understand their level of advancement, are you one of the writers perhaps?
I watched this with my mom, who stealthily and brilliantly dropped quotes from Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Bladerunner, and Dune into scenes where they actually fit perfectly. When your elderly mother can do that, you KNOW the film is derivative.😂
Yes, and Star Wars, LOTR, Bladerunner and Dune were themselves derivative of older stuff.
And I love LOTR, Bladerunner and Dune.
But does it matter that they're derivative?
@@Lleanlleawrg Yes. Plagiarism is to copy WITHOUT improvement on the original material!
Homage is WITH improvement or in a new way...
Zack "Hack" Snyder is a plagiarist. A lucky, but lazy fraud.
Funny thing is I went into this blind and had no idea who directed this. And within 10min I knew exactly who after these dumb unnecessary slow mo shots kept popping up lol
The reason the Rebels in Star Wars stood a chance is cause the Empire couldn't pin them down. The Rebellion kept moving. They had ships and unknown supporters all across the galaxy.
If you want to protect a farming settlement from the evil empire, it helps if they dont have space ships with the ability to wipe that farming settlement off the face of the planet in about five seconds.
But did Star Wars have needless scenes of sexual assault and tentacle p*** ? George Lucas could never be on Zaddy’s level
There was also The Force.. why exactly is this girl so powerful?! She’s just a nepo baby?
This thing looks n sounds good but what a garbage story. These farmers with their weird Viking accents and anti tech pro harsh labor beliefs.. just so meh
The droid looked cool but then ran away.. killed the one cool guy with swagger so another girlboss AND NB but clearly a chick character can be motivated?!
What’s it call when a heroic man gets Fridged?!
A talented writer would not write himself into an hard thing like this
A talented writer.
You mean like Alderaan? Yeah, Pepperidge Farm remembers.....
An entity that needs a small farm resources isn't an empire, it's some kind of local medieval baron. So, the logic of "building the villain" is complete crap. Also genuine empire as you mentioned can't be taken down by a bunch of rag tag rebels. I.e. I can't believe in the logic of the fantasy world presented.
"Trying to be cool and edgy" Synder's career in a nutshell.
Honestly, I don't get people's fascination with him, he's only made a couple movies that were watchable, the rest are garbage.
Honestly his only good movies were 300, watchmen, dawn of the dead and man of steel. The rest are just trash
I might add the only good thing about man of steel is the fight scene and casting Henry Cavill. The rest especially the lightning and acting is subpar.
@@sunshineskystarI'd go even less. 300 and Dawn of the Dead. Everything else of his tries too hard, is too cool by half, and surface cool and content shallow. This may be controversial (though it probably shouldn't be), but a big part of the reason the DC Snyderverse failed is because of the vision and planning of the one heading it- Snyder himself.
That's how DC movie universe fell
@@vormina9808 bcuz he was aNtI-wOKe according to some who simped to him up until this travesty got released 🤣🤣
"written by a 12 year old, fan fic author" That describes basically everything Zack has written till now.
Not really the highest bar to set
The main take away I get from so many recent Hollywood products is that the future they paint is bleak. Even when the characters they present as the 'good -guys- they/thems' prevail, the simulacrum of a world they've created is at best dull and gray, and populated with automatons in skin-suits who can't even manage to interact as actual human beings.
This is what you get when narcissists and/or sociopaths write stories. They already don't understand how normal people feel about that which is bad, so why would the understand a normal person's ideals and hope for the future?
As far as modern Hollywood is concerned, the future is just like now, except with more gizmos. Their 'future realism' is that there are enlightened characters who share their political views on race and gender, who are the protagonists, and everyone else, who are either misguided and just need the protagonists to enlighten them, or choose to be 'wrong', and are the antagonists.
Star Trek Discovery and Picard are perfect examples of this, and compared to old Trek, might as well be set in completely different universes in terms of their settings.
Automatons in skin-suits who don't human well... you've just described the entire modern left.
Hollywood has a low opinion of humanity. Almost Every future they portray is dystopian. The excuse that "its more interesting" falls flat as there will always be dangerous places in a galaxy that is otherwise at peace, lead by people who are not idiots/corrupt.
10 Little Indians wasn't great because they were the last 10 people on the planet.
The scenario wasn't created by an evil man because the British government was corrupt.
No. Sorry. Painting all of “Hollywood” with a ridiculously broad brush because the king of the nerds (Snyder) has disappointed you AGAIN is just fucking lazy.
The one thing that really struck me. And thats saying a lot. Nemesis had literally just finished saying "revenge will destroy you, dont do it" and next scene, Kora is telling Titus to "focus on revenge"
...Did they even proof read the script???
You say what they need to hear. It doesn't have to be true or sane. Kora was being manipulative.
Or perhaps she was trying to find a way to get Titus to do what she wanted. Nemesis gave them all a warning, but revenge is probably the only motivation Titus has for putting down the bottle right now. Maybe it will be something that comes back in part 2.
Yea it will be in part 2. It might be Kora fate to die in revenge @aslynelf
Nemisis and Kora don’t break the fourth wall. Every character has their own thought process and narrative.
The only thing we know they have in common so far is a dislike for the powerful kingdom.
havent seen the movie. but reading the names in this particular comment baffles me. nemisus and titus lmfao@@aslynelf
Watched it last night.
It's basically Star Wars crossed with Fellowship of the Ring. Jesus, even the fucking Prancing Pony made an appearance.
And when they pick up Djimon Hounsou as a disgraced rebel military general turned slave outside a fucking colosseum, I literally shouted "Oh, come on!"
Don’t forget how this film is full of warhammer lol.
The bad guy is a commissar, surrounded by mechanicus adepts and has a robot that is from the, huh, “mechanicus militarus”
@@juanlulourido548 It's only been a month but I can't even remember what this movie was about. lol
@@dannyarcher6370 cold af
I turned to the wife and said..."Wasn't he a gladiator in Gladiator just another gladiator movie? he was right?
@@davidwright873 He basically plays the same role as the role Russell Crowe played in the movie he costarred with him in. Super lazy writing and casting.
There are 2 reasons that completely sink the ship:
1. The unique characters, we spend a hour recruiting, dont affect the plot at all. And its not even fun hanging around with them.
2. The plot - like what are a few maybe even hundreds of soldiers going to do, when the enemy has a Dreadnought they can use to blast them back to the stone age?
As an extension - is the empire even evil? They conquered a few planets like ok. The Admiral kills two men who lie to him and nukes a planet which gave ressources/shelter to a terrorist organization - lying to authorities and aiding and abetting is crime here too. Exsessive yes - evil not necissarily
The writing was inconsistent because Arthelais stated that she is a child of war, never deserving to be loved and to love and later on when she was telling Gunnar about her time in the Motherworld forces she mentioned that in the academy they were encouraged to find a lover who they can fight for and protect, so which is which? 🤷🏽♂️
"Encouraged to find a lover". Doesn't mean that she did or that the love she might have found wasn't the love she wanted.
@@anonisnoone6125 she looked really pissed when he died and went all "John Wick + John Wayne + and + and + and" bad assed....
@@frederickczajka573My guy, if some kills your classmate whom you care for you're just gonna what? Not be angry🤦🏾♂️
@@nduduzoblose4355 my other guy, clearly she loved him. The writing was inconsistent.
Now that you mention it...
😆
The most important question is: how much of this movie is in slow motion?
The answer is YES
Y.....E..............S......
This is the curse of all modern filmmaking - dragging everything out way too long. The next director who comes along that knows how to tell a compelling story in 80 minutes + credits is going to be a rock star.
Slow motion should be a last resort used sparingly like minimal slowdown for brief periods and to enhance the overall composition.
Where it does work: as the culmination of a series of increasingly fast cuts in a boxing match, one slow motion shot of the punch knocking someone senseless, not very slow, only to make something highly significant just long enough to see that would otherwise last a fraction of a second.
Where it doesn't work: just cutting to an extreme slow mo shot of someone walking so they go from walking slowly to barely moving at all and it just hold on it showing off all the rich detail but, what is important? What is happening here that I need to focus on. It just seems like it's showing off what a high speed camera they have.
@@Treblaine What you're seeing is the latest generation of filmmakers who saw "The Matrix" as teenagers and thought "yeah, bullet time is cool, let's do more of that". All flash and visuals, no understanding of story or narrative structure because they grew up on TV and movies instead of reading novels and short stories.
@marco That was my problem with .. whisper it .. Dune. I seem to be in the minority though
I tried 4x to watch this.
Im only halfway & it already feels like I started watching it in my teens..
I just watched this movie with my brothers and was constantly asking 'why' during the entire thing.
This is the mindset of this village a few days' ride away form a neutral spaceport:
"Evil guys came by to ask for our supplies which we don't have enough of because we sold them to the rebels, we don't line up our lies (despite being in the same room when the first lie was said) and things go tits up so our leader is executed. They say they'll return to rob and kill us in a few months and leave a band of evil mooks who wanted to assault little girls behind but our resident STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER girlbossed these bad guys into a grave. Should we leave? Nah, it'll be fine. If we work hard we can give them our stuff they will like us enough to not just not murder us after we fulfilled our purpose of letting them resupply, they will also probably leave us enough to survive the winter!"
And then the protagonist, instead of leaving to let these morons win a Darwin award like she planned, decides to go recruit the rebel army and a general to save them with, even though they end up not being needed because the final battle takes place somewhere unrelated.
Also, why was this little village on a planet on the ass-end of no-where populated with people that spoke in a mix of heavy accents that were, as far as I could tell, from Scandinavian countries, several parts of Great Britain and one obviously Dutch guy?
The simple fact that in one monologue she states she doesn't know if she could love or be loved because they beat love out of her as weakness only to then in the next monologue state that at the academy they were told to find a lover for those moment when abstract conquest didn't bind them. I was like, man, they did zero effort on the world building for this.
Recruits a woman who has learned the destruction caused by seeking revenge and actively avoids it.....
THE VERY NEXT SCENE......
"Hey wanna get revenge?"
Unreal levels of hackery
Exactly! You’re so right.
Besides it was basically like the old dude doing small talk and she going on a rant about her past and trauma for no reason at all
im sorry bro
Oh my God Im glad someone else noticed it. I was watching this movie before bed and I was like WTF? I thought maybe I was just tired.
Every companion went from "let's talk" to "let's go" in minutes without a single request, task, or challenge. Even rpgs make you work more.
I think that just shows that the vast majority of people feel oppressed by the kingdom. The dude that found everyone to put the crew together, planned on selling them out. He specifically chose people who were dangerous and already fought against the kingdom. Convincing those specific people to join a resistance group shouldn’t have been that hard.
@@RinseRepeatEatThe presentation was terrible though, I think you’re being too charitable. The entire film was just picking up champions one by one to fight a big threat. There’s no other substance or character to the story (thus far).
The biggest issue I had was Tarak. Why did he have to wait for the protagonists to greet him for him to free himself? Did the beast arrive just before the protagonists got there? Id the beast was there all this time we have a plot hole and if it wasn’t we have a massive coincidence. Either way it is shoddy writing.
LITERALLY. The former general was the worst offender. She gave gave one line of a perfunctory rousing speech and he was like, 'fuck it, let's go!'.
That was my reaction.. I told my friend, video game stories have more complexity lol. I enjoyed it as a turn brain off, watch shit explode, see a new world kinda way, but knew it was not.. good lol
I'm glad you mentioned the slo-mo overuse. It started off funny but then became agonising to watch. I fell like the film could be half an hour shorter without the slo-mo.
My brother (who is in his third year of film school) started watching this movie on a whim and I made the regrettable decision to join him. If I hadn't he would have quite watching after the 15 minute mark. We ended up watching both movies pausing regularly to use our cinematography knowledge to pick apart everything that was bad about it. At the end of the first movie, my brother said the sobering line that really cut to the heart of why we hated these two movies and Zack Snyder: "Why did I bother going to film school and work myself half to death when this is what passes for a movie these days?"
The depth to which Zack Snyder plumbs the possibilities of lazy and incompetent cinematography is absolutely incredible.
The best thing about this film was the fact i didnt have to spend $18 on it to be dissapointed in a theatre
Facts
You still pay for movies? Lol
@@mackjsm7105
If you don’t, they stop making them
treu
this is a great movie, only reptilians-nazi hate it
You know whats also weird? The soldier that tried to help the farm girl never shows up again even though he probably should have become part of the rebel team giving he fought back against them
He probably will make a comeback in the next episode with the farm girl. They didn't really give any motive why that soldier decided to betray his comrades like that to begin with.
@fireboy1996 he was giving the intended farm girl victim the 'side eye' when he got off the ship. Clearly the love interest for part 2 when it is revealed that she is the Princess and that is why the robot was able to reinstate his shooting mode...
@@fireboy1996 eh he didn't really need a reason, everyone earlier treated him like garbage, he was the only soldier on the farm with a moral compass or the only one actually doing his job
Exactly! The way they clearly set him up to be one of the rebel members and then just dropping him from the movie. Same as the robot. He shows up at the beginning, shoots a guy, then disappears until the literal very end of the movie where it acts like he was some major character.
Exactly! For a moment I thought I had a micro-stroke when next scene shows Sofia Boutella's character with the farm guy looking for rebels at the cantina. I was like, "where's the soldier guy?". Isn't he a traitor at this point? Shouldn't he be on the journey with them? Why leave the robot behind as well? And the worst part is, if we moved some characters around the complete lack of story wouldn't really change that much.
Okay, so let me get this straight. a Galactic Empire is at war with a Rebellion in the fringes, and the main character is a farmer on a far away planet? Yeah totally not Starwars guys.
Crazy to think that the Dungeons & Dragons movie last year had some of the premises of this movie but it's just 1000x better, funnier and colorful.
I am just so, so, so, so sick of being expected to take seriously 110 lb women as super serious grizzled badasses.
My lip curls or I break into laughter everytime 😂
EXACTLY.......Thought I was the only person who thought this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
she got cybernetics in this one
It’s so bad
while TRUE, this instance it wasn't as bad.
It felt like a fan fiction set in the extended Start Wars universe using a script and direction from a mid-season episode of Andromeda or Farscape, with CGI from an Unreal Engine demo. Or a really long graduation project by a decent VFX student trying to get a job at Lucasfilm without getting slammed for copyright infringement.
Also with Warhammer 40K mixed in. They even used terms directly from the game, and had people who seemed straight from the tabletop. "Mechanicus" is basically ripped right out of Warhammer 40k, and the priest dudes and uniforms also seem that way. The king basically being the Emperor who conquered the universe for the Empire, or the Motherland in this movie.
Its almost as if he wanted to make a more dark Star Wars, with heavy influences from the Warhammer 40k tabletop game, but its not dark enough for that, nor cool enough. Just bland.
I was actually kind of excited when I saw what seemed to be hints at a Warhammer 40k inspired movie but it just fell flat as hell.
@@TheDestructodave520 Isn´t this level of ripping off illegal?
I haven´t seen this dumpsterfire and I don´t plan to, but literally everyone who saw it points out scenes directly copying scenes from other movies.
@@Mouse_Metal I dunno what's illegal or not but I immediately recognized the Warhammer 40k terminology and influences. They did rip terms like "Mechanicus" straight out of the game.
Farscape had a great script, so it must not have been that.
Almost every movie you see is a variation of other movies.
But I get it. You feel special by complaining
My laptop is pretty old and I was thinking: "This is it, it's dying. I can't even see the images anymore." But thankfully, just then you explained that the film's visuals were actually this dark.
The final fight was utter bull. Bloodaxe man somehow smashed through the glass of a starship with a metal spear... Then the gunner is shown to have been in control of said starship and it crashes!! That makes the SSD Executor's destruction looks sensible...
That part was dumb fr. He's the gunner AND pilot in that massive ship? Seems to be a bit of a design flaw.
No capital ship would be that badly designed. I don't think any ship in real naval history would have had such a completely idiotic design. And if you use aeroplane parallels instead of ship ones then again why would a pilot be the gunner too? I know sometimes entertainment is shallow but this hurts my head.
It was just a gunship-transport thing, not a starship. All the other soldiers exited it when they captured the rebels.
@@Negativvv It was not the capital ship. Or did you miss the ending when they take Noble back to the dreadnought and resurrect him?
It's sad when the most captivating performance was by the robot who doesn't even have a face.
The robot scenes were very good indeed. A gem shining in a pile of dinosaur turd.
Think that robot is voiced by Anthony Hopkins so it makes sense
@@lo9893still... that's a bad sign for a film if a CG character is the best acting. Anthony probably recorded his lines in a day. 🤦🏻♂️
Award winning and Shakespearean trained Anthony Hopkins might be the reason for that
@@undead9999 Yes that could explain it but there seems to be more to it than just the voice acting. It seems the animation of the droid has something special going on.
I laughed so much at the end. This bunch of "heroes" all stood together after the final battle. I was like, who the hell are any of these? We haven't even gotten to know any of them and they did absolutely nothing in the fighting 🤣😂
I agree, it was baffling. They lost possibly the most useful member of the team taking down a small drop ship and acted like they had struck a huge blow to a galactic empire.
They introduced them by what they can do, not by who they are.
I've always thought Snyder was one of the most overrated filmmakers in the past 20 years. Sure I enjoyed 300, and The Watchmen, and I don't get the hate for Man of Steel, but most of his stuff has been terribly mediocre. Even the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League was crap imo
It's the marvel effect.
Everyone is trying to recreate avengers endgame completely missing the fact that it took 10 years of movies to get there.
Also missing the fact that marvel movies were the cinematic equivalent of a theme park but who cares about our art we got into this business for the cash.
@@Marque734even then what they can do is not very unique or interesting, generic asian lady with swords, generic big black soldier guy, generic washed up old legend, generic openly untrustworthy character who is somehow trusted for some reason, generic civilian character who then has his epic moment, generic main character who betrayed the evil empire and conveniently was the deadliest soldier ever, despite the fact that the more trained a soldier is the more loyal they become as their identity becomes more and more associated with their country and role as a soldier.
This whole movie remided me of that rick and morty episode where they keep getting more people for a heist. The whole time they went to meet or hire someone all i could think was: "You son of a bitch im in"
I'm just surprised no one in the comments (Drinker And the video included) Mentioned all the countless similarities to Warhammer 40k and Dune. They're quite literally is not a single solitary original idea or moment in this entire movie. Truly, The final whimper of a long dead Directorial Career
When Belisarius says that lady is the most decorated soldier in the history of combat I died laughing 🤣
Ah, you Bro disappointed you guys??? That's a shame, so it's not woke culture destroying Hollywood just bad directors.
Yeah, if that was true, they probably would have spent more time looking for her when she went missing.
Her teachings were a requirement in Star Fleet Academy etc. Utter balls.
Poor Belisarius, using his mighty name for a film like that, what a disgrace....
@@LILBRAUM74CMtbf the name still exists as Velizar in eastern europe
Zack Snyder has never heard the old filmmaking adage, "show, don't tell," apparently. So much exposition! Exposition probably eats up more screen time than the slow-mo, which is saying something in a Snyder film.
He’s desperate for a cinematic universe of his own.. so much so he’s greenlighted a bunch of spin-offs that are probably gonna get cancelled like his “Army of The Dead universe” which is apparently set in THIS universe 🤦🏽♂️
He actually did show and didn't tell a lot in his DC trilogy, but y'all complained about it because you are too dumb to pay attention to what's going on on the screen, so now you hate him because he's gone the total opposite of that.
For real… I felt like so much of this movie was contrived scenes where the entire interaction between two characters is one “telling” the other some worldbuilding through flashback lmao. And it kept happening over and over.
Thank you Drinker for experiencing these dumpster fires so we don’t have to. I’ve said it before, your reviews are the best thing about these films, far more entertaining than the films themselves. Probably not worth the millions flushed down the commode though
absolute mad respect to all the pre physical training the actors did for their roles
if you pay me millions of dollars i do the necessary pre physical training too... a job is a job right? mad respect for getting paid and exercising? okay...suit yourself.
@@prince-solomonyeah must be a shame to be paid to exercise to look good on screen bleeding hear for them man 😂
*Given the fact that these characters change their minds* after being badgered for 20 seconds to join this ragtag team - imagine if they face the bad guys in part 2 - the bad guys make a proposal and they IMMEDIATELY change sides to the bad guys - cos they’re so easily persuaded 💀
Will it get a part 2 if it tanks as badly as it sounds? I know its streaming etc, but if its this bad, wont they just cut their loses?
@Simon-xc5oy - No, they’ll release part 2 and if it’s still the same. Rebel Moon’s universe *is done* . This is why I can’t blame WB for letting him go - as stupid as they are - this is what happens when Zack Snyder cooks 🤷🏾♂️
@@Simon-xc5oyit’s been made and also it’s been viewed by so many people, the great thing about streaming is they don’t give a damn about critics and YTs stating nonsense things and being over emotional about some movies whilst loving other movies that’s on the same level
watch the R rated version . It fleshes out this much better and it is not a woke movie and does not press THE MESSAGE in either version, Sorry you just don't like Zach
@jesusoftheapes - The R Rated version isn’t even out yet - so you don’t even know that - stop 🍆 🚴 Snyder and watch better films
It's rare to find a movie which contains so many errors, inconsistencies, brainless sub-plots and then combine all those precious failures with bad acting. But they managed to pull it off.
Nah. This is standard Snyder. No surprises here.
Agree but what is worse, is an example of all future SF films now
Its not even Zacks real movie wait til the rated R extended version comes out
Have you seen The Creator?
Just as bad - boring!!@@kainmorgenmeer4341
The portal in the opening scene looks like a taco. Actually, it looks like something else but we will call it a taco.
if i can add something just from what i can see in this video the sword play feels slower than if kids were playing like is that real speed? is it in slow mow or is the person with the swords like 88?
I couldn't get through it. My dad and I gave it a try, but I had a sinking feeling almost immediately watching Kora dramatically dragging her fingers through the earth and smelling it while Farmboy stares awestruck at her. My eyes rolled back in my head and almost got stuck there. By the time Sword woman was fighting Spider Lady, we were just... why are they there? Did we doze off and miss a plot point? We might have. But finally we just gave it up and went back to re-watching Stargate Atlantis.
I really hope Stargate will not have remake/origin story or whatever in current era.
Why the hell were they all just standing there while the sword lady and farmer John fought the spider that’s what I don’t understand… they had guns they could have also fighting he spider lady.
That was the feeling I was left with as well. The pacing is terrible. The editing literally made it feel like I fell asleep and woke up later, multiple times.
Haha same, at the same time. The smelling the dirt while toiling in the fields.. 🙄
The whole thing was just really meh. Story was jumbled together and timing just off.
"There's a lot of slow motion. The episodes were running up to 8 minutes under, the only way to stretch them out was with slow motion. We tried to keep the slow motion away from the dialogue as much as possible but anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion" - Dean Learner - Garth Marenghi's Dark Place.
That show is legendary.
I was waiting to see how long it would be before someone would slide along the ground on their knees in slow motion before wielding their weapon.
I remember that! Lol
Dude, glad you pointed out the blurriness of the movie. I was tripping balls while watching it. Thought my eyesight was going out.
I think unoriginal is the key point for this one.
I kept thinking the whole time that it was almost identical to star wars.
also, the scene where they get the prince and he 'tames' the hippogriff was straight out of the harry potter.
The spider scene was very lord of the rings.
The slo-mo was very matrix-y.
Long lost princess to save the kingdom/galaxy? Check
Evil antagonist that gets "killed off" only to be saved at the end through a medical procedure and come back even more evil? Check
Glowing swords? Check
A band of misfits that have to work together for a common cause? Check
Someone who doesn't belong but learns along the way how to be with people? Check
Energy blasters? Check
Weird creatures? Check
A bar scene with bounty hunters that ends in a fight? Check
A robot that gets repurposed to help? Check
Does it sound familiar to anyone?
@@itsnotalwaysblknwht Sounds like Starchaser - The Legend of Orin :O
it does, it does!!! star trek!!!!!!! wars, trek.. what's the difference?
To be fair Lucas actually did that to himself by making a pure fantasy version of Star Wars with Willow.
Such a lazy prat 😂
swamp wars!!!
No. Please refresh me. /Satire 😁
This isn't a movie, it's the longest video-game cutscene ever made
Mass Effect Andromeda had more plot as ridiculous as that sounds given the intro was 90% of the games plot.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Please do not mention that abomination. The sooner it disappears from humanities collective memory the better.
Original trilogy was dope though.
yes
It is a movie, and even if it was a video game cutscene, it wouldn't be the longest of those ever made.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I might be the 1% of humanity that actually found ME Andromeda fun and interesting. It's not on the level of the original trilogy not even close but as a standalone sci-fi story within that same universe it did the job it was supposed to do.
4:30 How could You not feel anything? The scene left me in total disbelief as 1 lever from side turret panel could doom entire huge ship like there were no bridge or even any other personel at all... This was part I did not sleep thru and I could not comprehend how stupid it was.
Reminds me of a super long trailer for or against "EvE Online" ... Thank you, Critical Drinker, for AGAIN putting out some sound warnings ...
Haven’t heard my boy Drinker be this disgusted in a long time. You can tell Zack really let him down😂😂😂
he just had to do this close to christmas day to earn on those views while the hype is on. Money.
He was our last best hope in a world of wokeness...sigh.
En vino veritas
Muh money
Seems if being a fkn yootoober was your job, MAKING MONEY would be a priority
@@evertonporter7887Man, if only that was this movie's problem
I suspect that movies today are being designed, not written. The director comes up with a list of fantastical shots he wants to bring to the screen and then tries to connect them all into a story. The result is dispassionate and disconnected, with no regard to the actual characters which are just vehicles to get us to the next cool shot. AI won't have to struggle hard to replace writers if this is the new trend in Hollywood.
You nailed it. It's all about showing off the cool cgi scenes.
Exactly: they have a tailer in mind. This movie is a very long trailer, nothing more.
Facts.
I don't know if I will apply that to all movies, but that is 100% pure Snyder. A list of "moments" that he thinks will be cool on film and a shabby shell of a movie draped around them.
Well it's true we saw it here.
Every time I see Michiel Huisman I am reminded that he started his career in GTST.
The droid saw the movie script and thought "This is dog poopoo, I'm out" and ran from the movie.
The fact that the arch-villain spends his time collecting small grain deliveries should tell you all you need to know about this film.
Yep! What would he do with the grain anyways… you can’t eat grain - you need to mill it into flour and bake bread! The super villain can go and rob a store/storage instead…
Plus the non- believable female “warrior” characters…
Right, no one has ever done battle over food before. Lololol
Yea, that bugged me the whole time. That massive warship, and countless "dollars" in labor, just to harass a few local moisture farmers ... i mean grain farmers ... for a pittance? Really? But Star Wars has been doing that since 1977. Zero new stuff to this movie, but I still enjoyed it. Reminded me of the other SciFi movie people hated called Juipter Ascending.
@@fizban690 additionally - i bet the cost of moving the warship would be much higher than all the grain that village could produce in a year…
@@fizban690 Agreed. Nothing new but I still liked it, despite the problems. I also liked Jupiter Ascending.
Thanks for taking one for the team, Drinker.
Merry Christmas to you and all here.
We who now have no need to watch salute you!⚔
@@frankgesuele6298 👍👍
The atmosphere is the first and last thing in this film that I fell in love with. Everything else is stupid and inadequate. Heroes and villains are stupid and inadequate. And the main female character weighing 60 kg moves as if she were a hulking Argentinosaurus weighing 80 tons.
I thought initially it was going to be like a space version of A history of violence - ie highly trained killer trying to live a normal life is slowly forced to reveal themselves, protecting the things they love. Might have been a bit more interesting.
The Critical Drinker: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?"
Zack Snyder: *"I AM THE HYPE!!!"*
Dbza 😂
mate i watched this shit last night
Ive no idea what it was about other than that some diversity hire was asked to film a script that another diversity hire wrote and as an idiot just went to all the last 40 years of scifi and fantasy films and stole long clips of them, Then stitched them together in this 2 hours of dog shit
The lead role women apart from being like 8 stone and watching her beating up numbers of grown killers is ridiculous is ugly as fuck and the protagonist i ended up feeling sorry for him
It was like Riddick meets willow
No idea why half of the film is even in the film
Its a pile of garbage
Its like asking Michael Bay if he likes explosions 😄
This is what a movie without proper "directing" looks like, there was no director ,per se,
just a self engorged asshole talking shit because he had the control over the budget.
Man needs to chill with those slow mo sequences fr
There were multiple scenes where there was super dramatic music and slow-mo over some character fighting or supposedly in dire danger and all I cloud think was "Who the hell are these people?". Not that I didn't know who the new characters were, just that the movie seemed to expect us to give a wet fart about the fate of a character thats had around 30 seconds of screen time before then.
That's the problem with wealthy directors who somehow magically believe that they're WRITERS. Pro tip... they aren't.
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I watched this while wrapping presents Christmas eve. I was in a good mood and the film kept me company. I overall liked the movie, despite agreeing with all the criticisms outlined here. Mainly, it was too serious all the time, they didn't do well establishing the characters (maybe because there were too many), and by far the biggest issue was the leading lady could not carry the role with the gravitas a few scenes needed. her lines were delivered without a trace of character. It was still somewhat entertaining though.
"Hol' up hol' up. What if ... now hear me out ... what if, we made Seven Samurai, but in space?" - Zack Snyder
I watched this twice (once on my own and once with my sisters)...I still know nothing about who the warriors were or why they were even hired. How can a movie have so little happen, yet feel so long?
If you go watch the Magnificent 7, yeah they tried to make it like that except in space...with a Star Wars theme.
The reason is simple:
Zack Snyder. Of the worst directors ever.
@@Leprutz Yes. All style and no substance, or there's "subtance" buried in tons of and tons of incoherent dialogue.
There's no in between.
I never liked a single movie of zack snyder besides his first feature film, dawn of the dead. Bu from than on he just made shit movies. @@denkerbosu3551
This is a weird way to say you like pain...
Seven Samurai worked because the heart of that movie is the character development--but that all happens in the *preparation of the defense* not in the gathering of the players. There's a reason why Kurosawa only spends ... what, 30m? ... on the setup; all that's needed is to give us the basic character sketch. The bulk of the movie is watching our players work with each other and the villagers, and seeing how they *grow and change* over that experience. The fight at the end isn't really the *climax,* it's the *denouement* where we see how our players have changed in relation to themselves, each other, and the villagers. Snyder stretches the gathering of the players, but then *fails to use that time* to do any of this work--so when Generic Rebel bites it, the *only* person who cares is Discount Furiosa--and the *only reason we know this* is because *she straight-up tells us in her first line.*
Also, the reason the *plot* of Seven Samurai even works is because the antagonist *is a bandit* and bandits don't have a *bench.* You beat them once and they're gone. Here, *it's an interplanetary empire.* How, exactly, is this supposed to play out? "My liege, they have destroyed our squadron." "Fine, send the fleet." Yes yes, spark that lights the fire and all that, but *we aren't shown that these conditions even exist.* Generic Rebel's sister actually tells us they *don't* exist, because they don't have sufficient force to take on the *squadron* much less the *fleet.* So ... yeah, that pretty much made me laugh out loud.
are you really comparing Kurosawa with this shit? kurosawa is completely out of their leauge.... it's like comparing gold and shit
Even Battle Beyond the Stars gets that. The interaction and buildup between the characters is what makes it special.
@@Panz82 He's making the comparison because the plot is very similar to Seven Samurai. It's a basic story that gets retold every now and again, with varying degrees of success. (See Magnificent Seven, Battle Beyond the Stars, The Seven Magnificent Galdiators, etc, etc)
LMAO, discount Furiosa. I watched Terminator 2 again today. Sarah Connor is total badass. What happened to these hollywierd wenches?
@@timothypollard6008
Yeah wasn't the Magnificent Seven literally just Seven Samurai but written as a western?
I thought it was a bit dull and there were barely any character interactions outside of Kora and the Seed-Counter (I don't remember his name or anyone else's). Whilst there were a lot of interesting ideas tossed at the wall, we barely had time to process anything before it switched to the next time. It's quite a whiplash effect to have the characters travel to different places, barely explore said places, say a few lines, kill a few threats and then scurry off to find the next one-dimensional teammate. Nemesis was cool but her entire character, much like everyone else's, didn't have much depth at all. In fact, the entire run, I was making pot-shots at certain scenes for being too similar to other movies.
The Bird-Flying Scene? How to Train Your Dragon.
The Port and Tavern? Star Wars
The Underground City? Arcane
Hell, the androids looked like Zenyatta's people, the soldiers looked like they'd been shipped from Terra Venture and the main admiral villain looks like a North Korean General.
It's... weird. Ngl.
I just started watching it and I'm finding it really worth watching
Don't worry guys, I'm sure the 8 hour long director's cut will more than make up for all the flaws
Honestly, if there is decent amount character work that was cut, it could make it a good movie.
@@dark_winter8238 i am being a bit cutting for the purposes of the joke lol, irony aside I'll give Snyder the benefit of the doubt until we see what Part 2 delivers
And it will be in 4:3 resolution so you have Imax experience at home!
@@quiver5756Yay I can finally spend extra 8 hours of my life watching abhorrent slow mo's in IMAX quality of a star wars rip-off
It would still have too many lens flares
Dricker puts more creativity in his titles than these writters do in their scripts
Now go off and have yourself a drick. It's Christmas for Petes sake.
But Rebel Moon is DiVeRsE.
You're a hell of a writter yourself.
How many dricks did you have before writing this
@@SavageReeses Dricker* There's a guy named Bill Dricker who edits Will Jordan's scripts.
The part where the slave-prince tames the griffin with oiled up abs looking like fabio made me unable to endure anymore
What ultimately kills it for me is that the characters failed to earn my investment. There were no fun side characters like R2D2 or C3P0, no interesting arcs like Zuko’s Redemption or Anakin’s fall from grace, no unique arts to learn like the Force or Airbending, it was like all the previous movies but with no heart or soul.
You know something sucks when it makes The Drinker sound angrier than even the latest Disney product can manage.
I think the main character annoyed me the most partly because I LOVE roleplaying and writing those edgy ass characters with sad/violent backstories. The whole fun of them is the mystery, and strained interactions with others gradually giving way to real bonds and softer moments as they learn to open up. Cora (kora? idk how it's meant to be spelled) just kind of... dumps her horrific past on Farmer Boy for no reason??? "i need you to know who i am" is what she says, but WHY? the mission would not be changed. his motivation has nothing to do with her, and whilst it's useful for the AUDIENCE to know in order to understand her own motivation. if you need such a lazy exposition scene to get across important information about your main character to the viewer, then maybe it's time to rewrite a few things
she was telling him bc he asked how she knew they would take over it wasnt part of her motivation as far as gathering a team goes
What is the guy from gladiator doing there?
Edit. And why is there a coliseum. Did ZS just rip off other movies?
I watched the film and honestly brain dumped it immediately. I may not be able to get that time back, but I'll be damned if I waste memory storage on it.
It took me 7 hours to watch this movie because i had to watch it in intervals to keep my eyes from melting and brain exploding. I really went into this with hopes of something good. This made Jupiter Ascending feel like and academy award winning space opera!
Jupiter ascending?
Yeah Jupiter Ascending was GODAWFUL
I loved Jupiter Rising, wtf?
The awful diverse sewage from the last few years isnt even on the same level as Jupiter Rising
Im laughing at you for even bei g surprised zAk sNyDeR was a fkn loser
Took me 2 days.
It took me three tries to watch this movie. I fell asleep the first two times.
What a sad time it is for film. I get more enjoyment from watching The Critical Drinker and Pitch Meetings shit on the newest movies than I would if I actually watched them. Make Film Making Great Again!
Couldnt agree more brother 🤣
Godzilla minus one was epic tho
That Pitch Meeting crap is just as insufferable as this crap haha
@zogwort1522 I'd rather watch Blade Runner 100 more times then sit through any of those...
@@zogwort1522 I never mentioned sci-fi movies, I said “film” as a whole. And my comment is about the current state of film. No one said there aren’t good older movies. Not sure what point you’re trying to make and to who.
2 hours in and I had just forgotten what our main characters name was. Thats not good. The only fun part was admiral Noble.
This review has talked me into spending my extra day off this weekend back to backing these train wrecks so i can have one final laugh at the career that destroyed DC.
The funniest thing was the ending....and having the droid standing there and we're all like "so .... why is THAT guy standing there like that??" Oh...because Zach imagined ANOTHER "wouldn't that be cool" visual.
some aEsThetIC nonsense for those crowd who are stupidly obsessed with that shit hahahaa
I've seen porn movies with more artistic vision than Zach has
I thought the robot had finally found his purpose, to be a scarecrow.
The thing that gets me is the bewildering timescale. The king and Princess apparently ruled in ancient times, such a long time ago that religions and mythology have built up about them - but it's about 5 years. I have socks older than that, and they haven't developed a religion of non-violence against other socks.
Probably something something time dilation
This is every sci fi rebels vs empire plot ever.
Kinda also like Heroes... they cancelled it after 4 seasons... but then gave the guy a chance to "do something different" and came out with Heroes Reborn and it was exactly like the original series. He didn't fix anything. He paced it exactly the same. Wrote it exactly the same. And I was thinking to myself... MAN... you had a second chance! How often do you get that in TV? Especially with science fiction!!! You blew it. You'll never get a season 2... and... he didn't...
It's almost like writers don't know how to learn...
Star Wars + The Magnificent Seven = Battle Beyond the Stars, which is probably one of the best movies Roger Corman produced in the 80s. If you haven't checked that one out, watch it as a palette cleanser to this movie.
Seconded!
And for 1/100th of the budget too. Amazing how far actual talent and creativity goes when you don't have massive CGI to fall back on.
zack actually mentioned seven samurai as inspiration😅
Plus it's got George Peppard, Robert Vaughn, John Saxon and John Boy from the Waltons heading up the group. There's a great Bluray, packed with extras, from Shout Factory.
@miketocci Yes, i definitely agree that it's worth the watch. Sure, it's corny at many times, but sci-fi back then was corny much of the time. Yet the characters were well-done and you had a bit of an investment in them. That made it a tragedy when some of them died defending the poor homeworld.