@Spacetrooper I have to agree even though I think having an all white cast is a bit bland. As a black person I absolutely *despise* race swapping and I hate even more that so many black people actually *enjoy* this patronizing bullshit
Cavill seems like a genuinely nice guy. It must have been soul-crushing for him to slowly realize that the show-runners weren't just ignorant or incompetent, but malicious liars who actually enjoy destroying the creative legacy of others.
if Henry Cavill gets through his career without some big scandal, and continues to be a stand up guy that just seems genuinely likeable and interested in normal things, he will go down as the biggest chad actor in history.
anyone with a brain knew they were that from the get go. he has a contract and to earn money, so he has to be involved, but no one had to watch it...but normies will watch anything with a brand. no wonder we are losing the culture war
I could not imagine the absolute headache Henry went through trying to keep the Witcher on track. I'm glad he quit, he was being wasted on the project, I give him props for trying though
I imagine Henry as Toby's Spiderman in the train scene and the absolute morons are the train and in this instance the train won and flatted Spiderman or Henry in this case into a find red paste.
Lauren doesn’t care about the source material. This was known in 2018 when she didn’t want Ciri to be white. She also wanted Ciri to be the lead not Geralt. She blamed trolls and racists when people objected. The article is online.
Funny thing about wanting ciri as the lead all they needed was to put in the work and put a good show. If they could get to where ciri is grown up like in the games ,they could have strong lead Ciri base on the game version
Ciri is basically the lead in the books though. Yeah, the early short story collections focus on Geralt (and they're also my favourite Witcher stories) but once you move into the main series with Blood of Elves, the books are pretty conclusively about Ciri. She and Geralt end up on opposite sides of the world and the story largely focuses on her struggles, powers and rivalries from that point on. Geralt is still a major part of the books, and the interactions between him and his adventuring party are Sapkowski's best writing in the series imho, but I think it's wrong to say the books are definitively about him at that point.
As a fellow Witcher fan, Henry has earned nothing but my respect. He was probably the only good thing in the show and he just have been internally screaming watching those hacks butcher the source material.
I doubt people like you know what the source material is Edit: I haven't seen the prequel show. I haven't read the source material and I'm sure most of you haven't either. Edit 2: It's easy to bait Drinker hangers who can't think for themselves, and instead parrot his talking points.
@@reek4062 Yeah, 'cause people like you know it. This is was hot flaming garbage. No matter how subjective opinions are, if someone likes this shit, needs his head checked.
So Hollywood, Henry Cavill is cancelled because he wanted to respect the lore, played games and wouldn't pop his top off constantly. Meanwhile, Ezra Miller can burgle homes, groom children, abuse drugs, get arrested countless times and choke women to the ground. Either he has pics of Zaslav naked with a donkey or hollywood has lost the plot and my money.
Cavill cancelled? I don’t think so. He signed up for a Warhammer show recently and I’m sure he will land some pretty big roles in Hollywood. He didn’t say anything wrong, just walked away from sheety Netflix series (and I don’t think Netflix is well respected within big movie studios anyway).
@@wojciechkowalik4949 But merely as an Executive Producer. In the end, it's down to the writers, directors and cast. And remember, Amazon has final say, too, so he's up against a lot.
@@wojciechkowalik4949 theyre still trying to smeer him. there were some attempts at labeling him "gamer bro" and "difficult" towards the female employees or some bullcrap. its just pathetic how low they will stoop.
Kudos to Henry, like a true Gentleman, he just walked away. Made no comment, said, thank you, have a nice life, and looks for his next challenge. Good for him, this would have haunted him forever.
@THAT GUY Drinker is very rational and agreeable. God, i WISHED he watched some 'Some More News', at least the non-political videos. I just know and i would bet Money he would like uand understand things like the 'History of Austerity' by 'Some More News' and even laugh at the Part about the "Blah-People".
I can't wait to see who they replace Henry with. It'll be the only thing worth talking about and it's just going to be more horrible decisions giving us more to laugh at and shake our heads in disbelief that they just don't care "let it all burn" attitudes. Heck they keep getting paid so why would they care.
The unfortunate truth is that modern Hollywood has a writing problem. The problem derives from the fact that "modern" writers tend to interchange ATTRIBUTES for VIRTUES. It is a shame.
They also have next to no real-life experience to base their stories on, leaving them unable to write their characters as anything other than stereotypes.
Modern Hollywood has a writer problem because modern Hollywood has a personality problem (or lack of it to be precise). They are all sheep to the woke anarchist cause and don’t know how or what else to write about.
I am a Witcher fan from Poland. The second I heard Netflix is gonna do Witcher I knew it would be a disaster. There is actually really old Witcher tv series(1996), based on books, which was considered pretty mediocre, but now looking back at that it and comparing it to the abomination by Netflix, that series is a fucking masterpiece. I recommand watching it for anyone interested.
Really TV show back then? But without Hollywood big budget and no fancy CGI it's gotta be a poor adaptation. You can't do good fantasy shows without money.
@@jonfreeman9682 It has terrible CGI yes, shotout to episode with Dragon, but it's still pretty decent when it comes to acting, especially since it was made here with respect for source material. It's not perfect or some masterpiece mind you, but still way better than modern day propaganda adaptations.
I remember when "The Witcher" was a semi-selfcontained, grounded, slavic/scandinavian tale of regular humans who have to live together with other regular low-magic beings and magic in itself was a wonder and rarity, and the WHOLE THING DIDN'T LOOK LIKE SOME ASS-END AFTERTHOUGHT OF AN EPISODE FROM THE NEWER SEASONS OF DR.WHO WHAT THE FUCK
The Witcher (in books) was all about living together with different species, races, all colours and shapes. It was about tolerance (or lack of it) between humans, elves, dwarfs, magical beings etc. The stories had it all - and readers known it, makes the books so popular not only in Poland, but even internationally. Then comes netflix with its showrunner and writers, use the witcher brand and making it in their own, 2020s USA-centric version... And we know the rest.
@@justlivin2499 Having a fan produce something will be a treat. Imagine having execs who actually love the world they're producing in. It'd be like Arcane, created by the creators of League of Legends, who loved their own lore and created a little masterpiece in animated form.
Henry Cavil fought long and hard to keep the integrity of the story universe together, and for that he has my utmost respect. Unfortunately, the showrunners and writers had other ideas, and ran the show into the ground from the start with malicious intent.
The most distilled way its been explained to me is; modern writers doing adaptations is like giving your action figures to your younger sister and she just has them do a tea party.
more like your younger sister throw you beloved action figure to the wall and you saw the remains scattered on the floor, without chance to be repaired.
I can't imagine how Henry Cavill must have felt going on set every day after realizing that his dream job turned into an active role in the destruction of something he cares about. His contract might have been a golden cage, but a cage nonetheless.
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The fact that Henry is now in charge of a war hammer 40k show basically proves that at least some higher ups are actually competent instead of pandering idiots
I only hope that Amazon are giving him the creative freedom and not meddling too much. I don't know if Henry Cavill has any writing or directing talent but I'd rather watch something made by an amateur who loves the lore than someone with 100 credits under their belt who doesn't give a shit and just wants to push a message.
@@chriswhinery925 i think a big part of the problem the people getting these writing gigs have like *2 credits* under their belt and a hard on for forced representational box ticking in media. For some reason the absolute wrong kind of people (i.e talentless) are being fasttracked on to multi million pound productions. It's getting beyond bizarre.
Maybe, just hoping that it's not revenge for the Rings of Power. And that It's not a new ploy by Hollywood to attack fans. Like Henry Cavill? He's in our new movie/series.... Nah we changed our mind, not happening.
@@daz2742 yeah as a massive 40k fan myself, Cavill is about the only reassuring thing about the announcement. Amazon has done a number on a few 'how can they possibly fuck this up? - ohhhh, like that' IPs (Wheel of Time and LotR). Really need to hope lessons have been learned, but the doubling down of the 'we know best' attitude of these showrunner types this new witcher shit feels like it represents doesnt make me feel hugely optimistic.
I know nothing of Warhammer but the fact that Cavil is not just in the show but is a producer and he's genuinely passionate about the source material makes me want to try it. It could honestly be the first adaptation in the last 10 years where the show runners actually give a shit (besides Dune). Here's hoping the rest of the producers don't coordinate against Cavil because if the show is good, it will also show what fans have been saying for years that you can only make a successful adaptation IF YOU RESPECT THE SOURCE MATERIAL.
as a Polish witcher fan, i can confirm that I’m indeed upset that directors decided to shit on our culture and mythology and even typical slavic look (which means rather fairer complexion) because these charasteristics weren’t „woke enough”. The ethnical background is what makes the orginal witcher unique. There is no ✨flavor✨in this new „all in one” remake. When we try to include everything so noone can get offended, the final product is simply nothing.
I am ukranian)) I really liked Witcher books cause it hits close to home, styling and all. Even tv show , Cavill in my opinion is tooo western. Should have been some slav dude, and preferably like really really slav. But Cavil was alright even though the western style kept breaking my immersion.)
these shows are not intended for Slavic audiences though - they're intended for westerners. Making the characters look western to appeal to western audiences is basic marketing - I'm afraid Americans are not really interested in watching a show with bunch of Slavs running around (we can always watch the Polish series if we need that 🤣). Of course they could've done this a lot smarter instead of mixing every culture representative possible in every possible group but that's another story.
@@tkaleczyc personally i mean how Cavill looks as geralt, it's just so jarring. i know my mom watched the whole thing, no idea about blood origin but for me its just too off putting
It is heartbreaking to see the state of Witcher series. The books are easily convertible into a show (unlike some other stories like Foundation for example), the themes of the book are quite deep, it talks about war and xenophobia and racism without glorifying it and it has multiple strong female characters to keep everyone happy. Yet, they somehow fucked it up.
Just recently saw Hypnotic breaking down the fight scene.Ppl in comms where upset about Michelle Yeoh wasting her potential. And then comes one more riddiculus thing - 1000 reasons why you should watch "witcher: woke origin".
It's funny that the showrunners who seem to be pro-diversity and anti-racism, can't even fathom that the original source material was that as well and in their attempts to create a diverse cast end up failing to tell the story correctly. So their attempts at creating a diverse world actually make the racism, sexism and xenophobia in the original material no longer be educational in the slightest.
@@Mantek430 it's a damn shame... Because Michelle Yeoh is the epitome of a badass actress, she's done majority action based roles since her breakout in the Hong Kong industry in 1985, always does most of her own stunts and overall is just a highly skilled and highly talented actress even in dramatic roles , none of these woke f**ks could ever reach her level.... She is the truest form of an empowered woman and the roles she plays are the truest forms of empowered female characters, but you can't wokiewood to understand that.
Same thing with Wheel of Time. Those books also have many heroic female characters, but the Amazon show destroyed not only the men but the women too. Modern showrunners have zero idea what they are doing (or they know exactly and fuck it up on purpose). I don't get why they hate the source material that much. Mind-boggling .
What in their right mind thought they could make a good spin-off if they got zero respect for the main series by hiring people to do a show who despise the source material? Netflix is destroying itself.
as source material i assume all the idiots who can't read mean the video games as the show is pretty close to the actual source material... and while Sapkowski hated the video games because as he said that's not his story he worked closely with the netflix show... so maybe actually read the books? i know it's hard so many words but i'm sure you can do it
@freak1337able Nah it's not. Even I can tell that the show doesn't follow the source material and I've only read the first book. There's no way the author is happy with the show
Because the live in the delusion that everything they see they can make better with their ideologies because that's what people want. But that's not what people want. But they are too stupid to see it or simply don't care.
@@frankiestein78912 in rings of power it was at least losely based on a great story written by someone else, here they had to write everything by themselves so naturally it had to be even worse
@@CalamityM Nope, nice try fake fan. What was said by Frodo in the book was "The shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real things of it's own." Nice going projecting about yourself for parroting things blindly.
“I don’t get it! We fixed all problematic aspects of the source material and adapted it for modern audiences, why does everyone hate us!?” - The dimwits that made this abomination and chased away Henry Cavil.
a) the writers wouldn't recognise a good story if someone inscribed it a series of stone tablets and dropped them on the writer's head b) the writers: 'who cares bout the story or the characters, The Message is the important thing!'
Henry was probably quite excited about being part of a franchise that he enjoyed and a lore he cared about. I felt bad for him when he discovered that he was the only one who did.
It amazes me that they can score an absolute unicorn of a lead actor like Henry Cavil, with the perfect look, the perfect acting chops and absolute love for the source material, and piss that all away because they just can't get over their hate boner for the fanbase and their obsession with woke politics.
It's an ideology that colors the way they see the world. They're genuinely trying to make what they see as the best show possible, and can't understand why people aren't responding to it. Like any true believer they think there are millions of people out there with the same opinions as them, and the original fans are just a small minority.
I'd just like to add that since Henry is clearly a bit fan of the books and games, and that a former writer of the netflix series admitted in a recent interview that several of his co-writers openly showed their hatred and mockery of the source material just supports my theory that at least one of the reasons Henry left was because he did not want to be a part of his butchery of something that he loves any longer. Mr. Cavill, I tip my hat to you, and I wish you nothing but the best going forward.
Such a fair point. You know for all the shit talked about the Witcher, I kept my head down & followed Geralt's story, & I enjoyed it. If i looked around too much or too deep into other characters, well that's not my point. Mad respect to Mr. Cavill, an actor who, like the greats (Pacino, Di Nero, 90% of the original Lord Of The Rings cast & 97% of the original Star Wars, & hell Star Trek TNG) cared about their characters & treated them as entities who deserve respect, actually found a way to enjoy the Witcher. I tried, I really did, to enjoy Blood Origin, Christ my phone had an alarm set for when it came out. But the acting was so over the top or stunted. 1 of my biggest cringe parts was b4 the made the 1st Witcher, stone fart & Lady Lark pretending to be sexually attracted to each other when they "kissed" there was a sound I heard, a romantic/charismatic black hole opening up in the space/time continuum. Anyways, we'll be ok. Maybe these are all learning sessions for future writers, Gods Please, Make It So. Peace fellow human...
@@opinionsarenotfacts.920 This is all a cycle my friend, sooner of later the hacks get kicked out of any industry and quality returns. Just remember, if you look for it, there's amazing stuff out there still being made, waiting for people who cares about quality to enjoy
Literal quote from one of the Witcher head writers : "I insist on inserting my queer trauma into everything I write." This says everything there is to know about modern Hollywood.
@@scratchy996 The weird thing about that is, "Queer" is a political identity, like Democrat. This is literally saying they insist on forcing their politics into everything. What about that is entertainment or desirable?
@@Winterascent It's not meant to be entertaining for the public, it's meant to be entertaining for the writers. It's like : "If I'm miserable, everyone else should be miserable too." But the real problem are not the writers and the producers, but people like us who don't unsubscribe from Netflix. As long as we keep paying for shit, we will receive shit.
Yeah that is the problem with modern "entertainment". I would personally dig a strong female lead in something, so long as she merits the role... not as some agenda.
They can't create characters these days without trying to ingratiate themselves to pressure groups by adding labels to them. A good character shouldn't be based on ethnicity, gender, able-bodiedness, or sexual orientation. Memorable characters are that way because of how they act, not what they look like.
If they had only included a little Indian dude who realized that he was the only one who remembered the Beatles and made it his mission to introduce all of those Beatles songs to an astonished and grateful world, I would have so totally watched this.
Yes. I cared a little bit about the Yennifer parts and got slightly intrigued about Ciri - but it was Henry who single-handedly carried the show and I was looking forward to every of his scenes and fights.
Yeah I was interested in the monsters and the fight scenes after I saw the story was shit and the looks of yen, triss, fringilla etc. Straight up skipped the yen storyline.
I watched witcher with Henry Cavil out of respect to the actor & he's love for Witcher, series were total abomination, at the end of series I had so much bad feelings I could compare it when you are sick and have tempreature of 38.5 celcius
@@Gensei-Kihara Well, that's just it, isn't it? These clownshows don't even represent the people they _claim_ to represent whose voices they merely appropriated decades ago in service of their spectacularly shitty politics. They're made for absolutely no-one _except_ the people who make them.
@@Gensei-Kihara If that were the case, they would've wised up long ago. No, this is being funded. The way it was explained to me is that it's more like 'Go broke, get woke,' that is, the studios get into financial trouble _first,_ make themselves ESG complaint so they can cast around for funding, approve a slate of these woke dogshit 'Message' movies and shows and wind up alienating the rest of their paying audience. This is why WB are now the first to begin trying to steer out of the skid now, because they were the first studio to get into the shit, take the ESG dollar and catch poison woke. For example, Netflix's latest modest hit, 'Wednesday' is now facing legal trouble because MGM, the studio that owns the Addams Family rights, were purchased by Amazon back in March. If they get their fingers into that show, you can virtually guarantee the second season is going to be a dumpster fire. They're already set to ruin the Bond franchise.
I'm Polish,and I blame Sapkowski for everything ,his greed has destroyed his work and it's inexcusable in my opinion , he was still bitter for selling the right to the books to CD Project back in early 2000's (fixed sum ,no royalties, and it was pennies) that when Netflix approached him he was more than ready to sell his soul even though he knew exactly what the show would become if he did. Shame on him for recommending 2nd season of the witcher before it came out too, most of witcher fans in Poland cannot stand him.
And all because he apparently didn't think video games were 'serious' enough as an entertainment medium... _lmao_ - talk about sour grapes! Silly old boomer...
Honestly,I cannot feel that bad about the old man. He is old, wrote some good books and yes he has a shitty character but wouldn't any of us would like at the end of their life to rip off some rich American idiots a couple of millions to live your elder years in comfort? But I feel dread if on an another attempt to cash in on Witcher the Hollywood will take his Hussite trilogy (I think this books are actually better than the witcher and it's clear he was way more interested in writing those and not the last Witcher books) the Hollywood treatment of Narreturm, Reinevann and all that historical atmosphere would be catastrophic.
Old man hate video games and this is why the success of CDPR's Witcher was pain in his a$$, but only he by himself is a guilty of this small payment. And now Netflix pays more than he received (by own stupidity) from CDPR, and thats why he saying: "how he likes this show". That's fkn sad.
Hollywood is literally using a lecture structure to tell you what to think, not a storytelling. 1 intro:tell them what u will tell them 2 body:tell them what it is 3: conclusion:tell them what you told them After waking your audience up, convince them you dont think they're idiots
Can we have our own characters please? I’m an old ass Caribbean woman and I fucking love the Witcher books in all their Slavic glory and the games for bringing my favorite characters to life. The books are unique for their complex and deeply flawed female characters and remain a testament to the lasting impact of the women who helped rebuild Poland after the war. Their influence is all over those books. It’s also refreshing to see a stoic, strong yet genuinely good male character with depth and charisma. I crave seeing people that look like me and my family in more entertainment but we deserve our own stories and the fans of these stories want to celebrate what makes them uniquely Polish. This pandering is basically corporate trolling as a marketing ploy and unfairly makes these actors take the brunt of manufactured rage for no good reason than free publicity.
I’m Black American and if goofy Hollywood wanted to do a new series about Shaka Zulu and Shaka was replaced by a slender female character who could easily defeat 15 strong men in 55 seconds and many characters in the Zulu nation were white dudes and LGBT people I wouldn’t watch that BULLSHYT
Funny how when critics openly give a movie or show low ratings for political reasons, it’s “expert opinions,” but when fans who’ve known and loved the original source material for decades hate it, it’s “review bombing.”
This entire "all modern everything sucks" shit is just white men going off because their want power fantasies now have a few more black people in them. Just be honest about it.
@Joël You all care massively as you never stfu about it. You think black people doing anything but playing criminals is "woke". So just be honest about the bigotry so us black folks know who to avoid in society.
@@mrelba9176 As someone who considers Toni Morrison and Richard Wright two people who opened my eyes to a broader world view, I find your generalization to be intellectually lazy, at best. Most people today, myself included, are more put off by the fact that everyone is told they're (insert accusation here) if they lazy, committee produced bastardizations of things they've enjoyed long before all this woke nonsense took off. Nice try. Way to think for yourself, Mr. N.P.C.
Game of thrones had diversity, there were strong male characters, strong female characters, light skin characters, black characters, disabled characters (the hound's burned face, Tyrion being a dwarf, Jamie losing his hand, Theon...), we had Brienne, a really tall/big woman who got bullied because of her height, we had gay/bisexual characters, but did it ever feel forced? no. Did it feel annoying? no. Was it the characters' only personality trait? no. That's because the story was great, and the characters were so well-written. Diversity is never a problem when it's well executed and when it's a subtle detail that doesn't change the whole direction of the story
GoT did what this series _should've_ done: Give every region its own ethnic makeup, so all the different places and people are distinct and recognizable. Hilariously enough, this makes the show more diverse than these explicitly diverse "Every place looks the same" shows
This's spot on, plus GOT's writters didn't fulfill the need to get any representative character a "I'm the best" screen time, even to the point any distinctive character arc isn't to be found. . For example (as much spoiler-free as possible) Renly isn't interesting because he just kills every characters in his way with the left hand, while the right one is busy opening a Pepsy can then putting in to his mouth. He is interesting because...of the way he behaves, and specifically the way he interacts with other characters. . But even those simple story tricks look like flying way above the head of actual majors' movie-makers.
It is on purpose. The same companies own them. I down want to go down the old Kanye road or start mentioning a cool fella Herr Schwab... but we just don't even comprehend how malicious these elites are.
@@KingKien95 Check their Wheel of TIme. Its one of the biggest works of fantasy literature along with LOTR. They turned into a low-cost lesbo-gay-diverse indo gangbang show, cutting away some 80% of the 1st book. Its faaaar worse than Witcher.
The part that kept weirdly bugging me was how the musician/elf kept using small daggers in pitched battles. I don't care what kind of kung-fu they're going to pretend she knows, the first guy with a full sized sword, axe or spear and has a basic knowledge of how to use it is going to straight-up body her.
It could be that she doesn't want to fight but she brings some stuff of small size(so that it can be kept in the instrument an pass inspections unnoticed) with her so that she can defend herserlf at least
to be fair it is fantasy. it's not suppose to be real life weapon simulation tactics. it's more like a dungeons and dragons campaign where you could make a effective dagger user. i know the witcher is somewhat realistic when it comes to medieval weaponry but this show barely has anything to do with the title it has.
My biggest issue is that they portrayed the elves as humans…. Yes humans…. The source material that they ignored does clue us in on how they should act.
I really hate modern day writers portray elves as nothing more than diverse human with pointy ears. To me elves are always the most beautiful being created with slender built and skin as pale as silver, or ivory. Yeap, that sound just like Tolkien's elves, but I get that illusion from other sources.
I have the feeling that the only good parts from the first seasons of Witcher (that stayed true to the book) were only there because Cavill fought for them. But Blood Origin is reminding me too much of Rings of Power ... and that scares me
Why r u surprised when it's happened over and over again. It's seems like Hollywood's Writers Guild jus keeps doubling down on injecting politics into stories that have no place being there! .
@@JK-qn9qr nah. i made it all the way through this, plodding along reluctantly. With RoP i was DONE after one excruciating episode. You can't force me to watch more.
I would like a show all about African, Asian, South American, or Middle Eastern ancient lore. I like learning about other cultures and it would never occur to me to question that a show specifically dedicated to a specific people when travel was extremely limited would largely only contain those people. If they want to make a futuristic story where travel is extremely common, I would find it completely believable to have a cast of characters of varying races. I just want it all to be realistic and logical and I don't want to be told constantly that the only reason I want things this way is because I'm racist and misogynistic.
I'm still waiting for a proper Mwindo (as I believe it's written), it's a really cool story from Africa, with an AWESOME lesson about knowing you're a badass BUT not overestimating yourself. You'd think Hollywood would love it too, he's abandoned by his father and raised by his aunt.
I'd even be interested to see some futuristic story with a lot diversity, in the sense that different people groups have mingled to the degree that they've achieved a new level of homogeneity. Having a wide variety of distinctly different ethnicities really only makes sense in a time period of heightened travel, closely following a long period of severe segregation.
I read the books of the Witcher series. It was impressive how much Henry remembered and even said the same lines word by word as the book did sometimes. It hurt how much they butchered some of the characters from the book. The one that hurt me the most was the beast man from the season 2. He was my favorite character who was the first to be in the first Witcher book. Here they made him a pussy. I was so mad how they also butchered Lydia. She wasnt just any villain. She was an amazingly beautiful character. So much suffering in her and all for what she thought right and for the love she had. Fucked her up too…
When i watched that episode of Season 2 I was kind of confused, and was thinking, "this seams familiar but I just don't remember it like this." So I went back and read it, and yeah, Ciri wasn't even born at that point in Geralt's life, but Netflix put her in the episode.
@@hawkthetraveler6344 I think the witcher books (at least the first half of the first book i read) arent that great tbh. The atmosphere of them is good though. Also liked the first witcher computer game which was super respectful to the books.
If you look close at this it shows none of the characters gets any dirt, grime, soot or shmegma on them from battle at all. These strong female and strong diverse female characters are so strong that not even dust can settle on their stunning and brave faces.
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lmao reapply the logic to this video and you realise the criticism is less about the the writing and story and more of his obsession with races and factions
😂 same bro that was too much. Who the fck made that decision to use a woman dwarf instead of a badass like Thor. Even Gimlee from LOTR was badass but the girl looks so cringe 🤮
First and foremost - if you have a source material full of Celtic and Slavic influences that is loved by people, you leave the Celtic and Slavic influences in the adaptation, obviously. They even had a full soundtrack from the games ready to use as an inspiration. 😢
Where did u found slavic influence in source material? According to pan Andrzej Sapkowski, witcher is no slavic at all, it has a lot of scandinavian and europe mythology
@@Rikbrit influence can be subtle, I never said it’s fundamentally Slavic. Even if it’s a classic fantasy with a pinch of Slavic, Celtic, Portuguese, Scandinavian or Andersen notes, these are important nevertheless. And the Netflix series are lacking in every department, from costumes to understanding any European mythology. Forgive me, but I’m not going to list all of them.
I often wonder if the poor writing, bad set design, and half-arsedness of the production is a symptom of the writers' hatred of the source material or the cause of it. That being said, writers' hatred of the source material is so widespread that it has basically killed fantasy.
No need to brood about it - these shows are targeted for no audience. Just create something to have something, paychecks, move on. Almost like we didn't expect anyone to watch it.
No, that’s just Netflix’ low budget… they have been cutting down on everything and even announced that they might put ads on Netflix and ban account sharing. :/ they are dirt poor now…
I love that Lauren Hisrich said she wouldn't use anything from the games in the TV show and would stick strictly to the books (as if she's too good for the games), then proceeded to completely butcher the books.
Poland here ;p Well, the most funny thing here is a fact that original Sapkowski stories were talking about racism and prejudice from totally different perspective than typical contemporary piece of art, so a reader/watcher could think: oh, this prejudice is so artificial, they look/think basically the same. But noooo... lets tell once again a story about Driving Miss Daisy. Also, yeah, it is possible to tell a diverse racial story even in historical medieval settings. Just look at the Cordoba or Constantinople where you could find people from any known corner of the world. But even then, they would be divided by guilds, houses, districts, temples, functions (military), not put all together as McDonald at the friday evening -_-
@@polarvortex6601 yes, always, because now Slavs are POC'S apparently. Use this when they try to say the story was "too white". Just say, "the story is polish, poles are slavs, and slavs are POC'S. Stop being racist" to those morons who make everything racial
You could have ethnically distinct countries, with a sprinkling of other races, from other areas, traders and whatever, but if you must have a diverse cast all in one place, here's a thought, why not have lots of the story set in port cities, or crossroads on trade routes, where the different races converge. Which usually makes for a interesting setting, for deceits, double crosses and heroism, and shady dealing in back street bars. Istanbul sort of thing, I'm not a writer or anything, but you know, it just might work visually and plot wise.
I am from Poland. I watch the very first Witcher adaptation with Polish actors (early 2000s). Back then I thought that it looked cheesy, but now I think it was the most faithful and so far the best Witcher adaptation. Just because it says production is made by Americans and has big names ( Although I think Henry Cavil was the best actor of modern series along with Jaskier, Ciri and Yennefer), does not mean good quality. What I liked about the Polish production, is that I felt immersed in the world the series has portrayed. And the Jaskier songs (voiced by Zbigniew Zamachowski) were fantastic. However it was the scene of Pavetta's rage where I felt the full magic of the show.
Oh jeah i did a Review about that one ony Channel it speaks volumes about todays careless media that the stuff 10-20 years ago with low Budget and cheesy acting is still more faithfull to the source material than what comes out today. The best thing about the Netflix Adaptation was gerald and now he is gone so now the show lost all legit claim to the witcher Franchise
I defend that series and love it to this day. Yeah, the practical effects and cgi are terrible and they left out or mixed up a lot of stuff from the books. But the atmosphere, the actors, the immersion, and the music are absolutely great. And Michał is unmatched as Geralt. Pity. So many millions spent by the Americans and the result is terrible. ( zdraví Pepík z Čech : ) )
I agree, saw that adaptation on UA-cam back when it was still available and I think it is far more convincing and faithful to the source material than any of the games, not to mention Netflix adaptations. It is easy to laugh today at practical effects in TV show from central-european country 20 years ago. Look at the western TV shows from the 90s. Michal was great as Geralt. I think anyway that short stories and novellas from early Sapkowski work are his best works, and maybe the first novel. But even from his later bloated and chaotic novels it is possible to get enough good material to have a decent show. But no one seems to want that.
I’m so sorry that this has happened to the Witcher, just remember that there are actually Witcher fans who have read the books and played the games in other parts in the world
Thanks for hesitating to use the word woke. I empathize. It's getting harder and harder to describe how I feel about shows like this in polite conversation without using that word, but I'm about done trying to conceal it behind euphemisms.
Yeah I find it annoying that there's situations where there's propaganda against whites and men and people call it "woke". It's not woke, its just racist and sexist. It's also a word used really only by people who hate this sort of stuff. Drinker is a writer which is why his vocabulary is very diverse.
@@Snagprophet That's about how I see it though. It's gone beyond some sort of "awake and seeing" and has crossed about 50 lines to the point where it's considered to be divisive to say "showing up to places on time is a good thing" is simply The Bias of Professionalism Standards ( this is the actual article title name).
@@peteranon8455 Nah, I read an article from Oregon where being on time to work and NOT late was an example of White Supremacy. So, woke and non-white seem to fit pretty well together as of late.
The Critical Drinker: "Wow, 2022 hasn't been a good year to be a Witcher fan." Me: "Wow, 2022 hasn't been a good year to be a movie, tv/streaming, or anime fan."
I've long lost my hopes for the future of tv and cinema. The product can only be as good as the passion that is involved in creating it. If you take a huge shit on lore you're only insulting the people you want to attract. Henry Cavill was the only person it seems who was so very passionate to bring the witcher to life and even hoping to bring it to the attention of those who do not know it. But money is all that matters to the people in charge and it's killing the very thing they live off of. It's quite a sad sight to behold indeed.
Latin American here. Anyway, not sure, it seems most "woke" people only care about the message. Or maybe they are just so deluded/brainwashed from living in a bubble that they think most people like "woke" garbage. When in reality most people in the planet actively dislike it.
I loved the part where the dwarf marched into the city with the others disguised in the armor of a soldier they killed. No one on their side seemed to think that might be a bad idea and no one in the city seemed to notice the three-foot elf in the formation.
The problem is not about the city but about the other guards,since they mostly know their collegues (i think) they should know that in the army there is no dwarf or something,but most of the times other guards are usually killed almost right away so they don't even have time to point it out
You can always find explanations, for an example that she was overlooked easily in the crowd and once in the city it’s too late, probably most people at the time not being smart by the way to make the connection and yell out 😂
Also, I was like, how did there just happen to be a uniform that conveniently fit the dwarf?Where did it come from? There weren’t any dwarfs in the original army. 🤷🏾♀️
@@ashdapr1 episode 4, 4:31 you can clearly see she just got the helmet plus this chain/emblem all other knights wearing. If people decide to follow the mass opinion you end up watching like this and add from your memory 😂
Much appreciate you choosing to include some of the more tolerable scenes from S1 in this to get us through it, Drinker. You're a far more considerate fellow than the show writers who decided to hijack the popularity and excellence of good source material because their terrible story lines can't stand without something to parasitize.
My wife and I considered watching the first episode last night. She is a lot more open to trying a show than I am. After watching the trailer for the show, i have never seen her decide against watching something that quickly. Even the trailer looked like absolute garbage. How are these people getting paid?
"This is the kind of shit that happens when rich liberal Californians that have never been in a fist fight or a working class pub, have to write a scene about both." On the head!!!
This isn’t a working class pub tho. The drinker and all you incels have Servette brain damage. Is this „liberal“ and this „diversity“ with you in your room?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the witcher world completely devoid of magic until the Conjuction of Spheres brought it there along with monsters and Humans? So how can a sorcerer even exist prior to the conjuction and cause it? So what is it: Are they making a ridiculously predictable "twist" that this isn't the world of The Witcher, but the world from which the Wild Hunt comes from, or are they once again ignoring the established lore for their own convenience? Either way sucks...
They are just not even interested in their own lore. They basically made up that there is "magic" and "chaos magic" which is supposed to be stronger somehow and comes from another world. Which is weird because in the actual series they only ever talk about "chaos magic" but there is literally no difference aside from "fire".
That's what I was thinking. I thought the non-humans and monsters went to the human world during some event. (I can't really remember its been awhile since I looked at witcher lore)
@@Kamo442 I mean they are right in the idea that humans came to the world of elves and dwarfs. That's why they are called "Elder races" because they lived there before. Monsters also came TO the world (which makes sense because they just cross). Though it isn't said that there were NO monsters before since you could argue whats the difference between monster and animal? I am not sure anymore if the books also said that this conjunction introduced magic to the world in general or just to humans (since I guess the idea is that these humans came from our world). I feel like both interpretations would be fair. Just stick with one and don't mix them up like they did in the show. Only other important point is that elves from the Witcher world also traveled to another world which are then the Aen Elle
You also forgot to mention the part where Witchers were created from human kids that were experimented on for years and years first by the wizards from the Rissberg order and then by the expert mutagenists Idarran, Malaspina and Alazur, all a long time AFTER the conjunction of the spheres....whereas in this shitshow the first "witcher" is an elf that drank a reinforced mojito and then did the oompa loompa bdsm dance with some monster entrails
Haha good joke thinking the writers even know what the conjunction is, or how magic appeared. They know it's a medieval fantasy product so go to their Hollywood definition of medieval fantasy and just use that info, they don't care about little things like franchise lore
Imagine celebrating the "reimagining" of a well-beloved franchise because it has a few changes in ethnicity. “If the only time you think of me as a scientist is during Black History Month, then I must not be doing my job as a scientist.” - Neil deGrasse Tyson
I know nothing about the source material, games or books, but just the fact that as an actual passionate fan of it Henry Cavill was willing to walk away from the lead role because they were butchering the lore has given me so much respect for the guy.
I'm not sure how that's a valid point of view though. What if Henry started to support some shitty stuff, would you support it as well? Nothing a priori wrong about having role models, but not shaping your own worldview and your own opinions is almost a crime against reason. I would recommend using your rolemodes more like a tourist guides- see where they lead you, but you have to see the scene with your own eyes and try to understand it with your own mind...
@@malyvo0 I think celebrity worship is stupid as well but did you read what OP wrote wrong or something? Dude said nothing about role models in any way. All he said was that he respects him for his actions which I do too. Playing Geralt was Cavill's literal dream role, he knows the books so well that he even ended up helping production with questions about the lore, so just the fact he left it all behind because of how bad it was getting says a lot about the guy. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less.
@@malyvo0 Did you seriously just made up an argument/problem out of thin air by bringing the conversation to something that wasn't even remotely related to what the OP said. Holy shit. Reading comprehension. *READ* before answering, you absolute doofus.
@@malyvo0 Yep you definitely misread the "actual passionate fan of it" part which was referring to Henry Cavill being an actual passionate fan of the Witcher, NOT OP being a fan of Henry Cavill lol
In terms of the “diversity” you mentioned in every geographical area, they did the same thing with The Wheel of Time. In the first episode they are in The Two Rivers, which is a majorly secluded area which rarely gets visitors and the area has an ancient history. The book even describes what a Two Rivers person looks like and describes how weird it is that one of them looks different. It’s a major plot point in the book, because obviously this character did not originally hail from the Two Rivers. However, in the show it’s just a “diverse” hodgepodge. It literally made 0 sense.
You could tell that show would be trash the second you saw the casting, well really even before that when they put out the description of the show and it had the most feminist interpretation of the world of WOT possible. Ethnic conflict is an enormous recurring story point within the books and Rand being Aiel is also a core plot point. Having the two Rivers look like LA is retarded, It would be like having a show about some isolated town in NH or Maine and have it being racially diverse, it makes absolutely no sense.
@@watariovids1645 yup. But they had to check the diversity box. I quit watching about 5 min into episode 3. I couldn’t watch such a disgrace to Robert Jordan’s work.
“As long as it’s not important to the story” explains like you pointed out. Them- You guys are just racist or they don’t always have to follow the story.
I think a lesson we're all learning is that if you own a particular successful intellectual property, don't sell it to Hollywood unless the give you total creative control. Or just don't sell it at all.
The bad thing is that you have to fight like hell to keep an IP in your possession, apparently the system is designed to steal them from you if you don't sell it or put it in someone's else's hands eventually
I saw an article saying that The Witcher: Blood Origin was a Christmas gift for superfans. Pretty bold of them to outright admit they gave the fans coal.
😂😂😂 I’d watched Season 1 five times and Season 2 three times, it was my favorite show, and when Blood Origin came out all I felt was big disappointment, the true point of no return for the beginning of the end of The Witcher
"It's what happens when people with an axe to grind instead of a story to tell are put in charge of a massively popular ip built by far greater minds than their own." Very eloquently put Drinker! You hit the nail on the head.
@@snowcloudshinobi how does it throw it in your face? multiculturism exists everyday. in fantasy videogames you have dwarves, Drow, tieflings in a party and there is no seething crying SJW. weebs man
Give this man a lead role in a different medieval fantasy show. He's perfect for these and it's greatly disappointing that his talents are wasted on Netflix' The Witcher.
I feel bad for Henry he is an amazing actor and loves the source material of the shows he wants to work on that Hollywood's wokeness just ruins it for him and he hates he can't do anything about it, can't wait for his WarHammer 40k series that he is heading
Do recall that the other show Drinker bases on IS from Amazon like 40k will be. So let us temper our expectations considerably. I'm hoping he'll get 40k back on track to being a Satire piece, the over the top seriousness from the fanbase has gotten a bit too idiotic lately.
Your solution to the use of diverse characters by putting different races in different tribes/nations/etc is something I've been whining about for a few years.
I'm huge Witcher fan. I'm from Poland, so to me this series is very personal and close. I watch polish serial Witcher when I was a little kid with my brother and my uncle. When I was older I read all books and I fell in love with world created by Sapkowski. I remember first time when I play the first game it was a wonderfull experience for me, I use to weke up every morning and play this game, I waited for the second and third game like hell. When I was older and my mental helth was bad (I had depression), I used to get in my car and ride to the woods. I spend houres in wild reading this series, and this story helped my get through worst time of my life. Hell, I even nemed my dauther Cirilla. I wrote my batchlor about the Slavic coulture in Witcher, I have tattoos inspired by Witcher, I train sword fight. So you can see how much this series has inpact on my life, and now when I watch this shit, I feel ofended and in some way betrayed. This Netflix crap shoudn't by called Witcher, becouse this has nothing common witch the Witcher. It's punch to face to the Slavic coulture and spit in the face of fans not only here in Poland, but all over the world. I don't belive in coultural apropriatnion, but if it exist this netflix shit is best example of it. I hope only that oders great fantasy series don't get woke thretment like Witcher.
@@madkoala2130 yuup, but I don't recommend it. It od fun for me becouse I grow up with it. You can find it on UA-cam, by searching Wiedźmin 2002 or 2001 I don't remember, and I don't think three is an english version.
@@philipmocny6768 look if anything is better then Netflix Witcher (or most of the Hollywood to be exact) or any movie that currently being made in my homeland then I can swallow it.
Every year that goes by I'm just in mor eand more awe about how great Henry Cavil is when you see the absolute scale nad magnitude of his ability to absolutely rivet you while being surrounded by just awful cancerous nothingness. Just him being on the screen in a witcher scene is almost enough to make the show good. YOu can't take your eyes off him in anything he's in. It's kinda surreal cuz it creeps up on you. They didn't understand he was the only reason people were watching in the first place a show that was so awful.
@@seanthomas1552 Not gonna lie and say I think he is on the same plane as Bale or Phoenix. But he has this lovable charm and genuine quality about him, that for me goes a long way. A very long way. It shines through in his work, and therefor it becomes great. At least those are my 2 cents on the matter. I think his two most prominent roles were mishandled, but not by him. I should love his Superman and Witcher the most, but I find myself liking him better as the villain goon in Mission Impossible. Because Tom Cruise might be a bit nutty, but the dude just knows how to make movies and manage the talent that is hired.
@@lawlietriver8869 I think it's mostly his presence. Cavil has a physical charisma to where you're drawn towards a scene that he's in because he makes it look more epic than it actually is.
I think I speak for all of us when I say the real audience looking at this want a series/movie that closely follows the source material and has internally consistent, fact checked story. We want psychologically fleshed-out characters, realistic physics, consistent non-physics (magic) mechanics, and a captivating scene rhythm. Everything else is a bonus: good graphics and effects, pretty people, battle choreography, music, costumes, and even above average acting, Id say. Sometimes you can get away with mediocre acting and not ruin the immersion. We don't care about the color of anyone's skin, as long as it's the skin the source material describes. And if it doesn't, and it's a good fit for it, you can make them green for all we care. This is literally the formula. Its that simple. And in a world where the movie industry is so powerful and wealthy this is trivial to make. I know people that can make computer algorithms that can write book adaptations with such parameters and spit them out daily. But Hollywood can't be bothered.
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@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 not gonna lie I too still have netflix just for shows like lucifer and peaky blinders but I'm moving on from netflix soon as its simply not worth a penny to me anymore
@@theslayer1197 Honestly, I don't really judge anyone, I just am always surprised. I like early "Lucifer" too... I was just done with Netflix after "Cuties" no matter what else they had/have.
Henry Cavill is the ONLY reason that kept me watching the Witcher Season 1 and 2 i could tell he is that star player that makes the team better because he loves his role
"Those with an axe to grind rather than a story to tell". Yep, that pretty much sums up the current state of things perfectly Drinker. Well said as always. Angry, entitled, spiteful, immature children in adult bodies. I've had the misfortune of working with such people and it's an utterly exhausting and soul destroying experience. You're looking at an adult but it's like your talking to a moody teenager who's screaming "it's not fair" at you for grounding them on the night of the big party.
Yep. They're doing it everywhere, sadly; sports, cinema, entertainment, academia, journalism, science, medicine, and on and on and on... They're more focused on signaling how virtuous they are than they are on providing their customers a quality product/service. Checking boxes and appeasing the woke but vocal minority is clearly their priority.
One thing that I love when it comes to fantasy and sci fi universes is a well-realised and believable world where it feels like there’s already been centuries of events that have taken place before the story has ever begun. World building is an important facet of storytelling as it can easily destroy the story, the plot and every character in it all if somebody either forgets how an economy works or what it would be like to travel over a hundred miles on feet.
Respectfully, the kind of people who write shows right now have never walked even 5 miles and couldn't explain how an actual economy works because the closest thing they ever studied was a "Why Capitalism is Evil" class at their university.
I disagree. World building is important but it's secondary to a good plot. Granted, if there's poor world building, everything else must be that much better to compensate for it if you want people to like your work of fiction. But it's not THE biggest factor and a LOT can be overlooked if everything else shines. I like to use the original three Star Wars movies as an example. If you critically examine the feasibility of something like the Death Star, or whether a bunch of stone age walking teddy bears would really prove that much of a hindrance to a galaxy-spanning Empire, you can rule it all as absurd very quickly. But most people overlook those things because they're invested in the story's characters and want to see them succeed in spite of the odds stacked against them. The Witcher fails on BOTH accounts though. There was not a single character shown that I cared about and the lore behind events was a muddled mess. Things appeared to happen with no rhyme or reason behind them, nobody's motivations were clear or understandable, and overall everything had this "generic fantasy" vibe to it with little to distinguish it from the countless thousands of other stories just like it.
Is that not the purpose of high-budget fiction? Artistic integrity means nothing if no one wants to consume what you create, and your goal is profit. The amount of people I have seen who wanted to be some brilliant auteur director and then no one watched their content could fill a stadium. I am sorry that art as a commodity is a racket, a game, a manipulation and often stupid. Create product. Sell product. Repeat. Otherwise: pick a non creative career, create art and distribute it with less monetary burdens. Go make 21 dollars an hour being the best bucket drummer in NYC. Or don't. I don't care.
@@py_a_thon The whole profit stuff isn't consistent wlth those woke modern movies and shows tho. They all flop financially because nobody likes watching that shit except a small minority. There is a reason why they all get cancelled withing 1 or 2 seasons.
@@py_a_thon yes, the point is to make money Which is why you should target an audience that actually exists, not the one some disconnected ideologue wishes existed, which is what everybody says when they say 'made for a Modern Audience'.... the 'Modern Audience' is a fantasy cooked up by over-educated, under qualified hollywood execs who think they can change the world by making stupid movies and bad TV
@@petriew2018 Many films hated by critics and political pundits have grossed hundreds of millions or 1billion+ Example: Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness = 955 million dollars box office only on a 200 million dollar budget. That is an INITIAL return of 500%. And 75+ years of ownership of the product for subsequent monetization. That intangible is now entirely black ink on the balance sheet. Every year for 75+ years. To drive the example home: many critics hated the movie, this youtube channel person included. Doesn't matter. 500% return. Initially. Only on the box office run.
This basically shows that Henry Cavill has read more of the source material than all of the writers, show runners, and Netflix combined.
Probably not a high bar set for that one
It goes to show that Henry Cavil has class. He's better than the Netflix Witcher staff.
By that metric he could of scimmed it in a dental office and your statement would still be true lol
@@papafet5757 he’s too good for the shit stain hellhole we call Hollywood
@Spacetrooper I have to agree even though I think having an all white cast is a bit bland. As a black person I absolutely *despise* race swapping and I hate even more that so many black people actually *enjoy* this patronizing bullshit
Cavill seems like a genuinely nice guy. It must have been soul-crushing for him to slowly realize that the show-runners weren't just ignorant or incompetent, but malicious liars who actually enjoy destroying the creative legacy of others.
If I worked my way to becoming an actor in Hollywood and get asked which actor do I want to work with the most, it's Henry.
sums up modern Hollywood quite well really
What's worse, these c***s are trying to defame him the exact same way Amber Heard defamed Johnny Depp!
if Henry Cavill gets through his career without some big scandal, and continues to be a stand up guy that just seems genuinely likeable and interested in normal things, he will go down as the biggest chad actor in history.
anyone with a brain knew they were that from the get go. he has a contract and to earn money, so he has to be involved, but no one had to watch it...but normies will watch anything with a brand. no wonder we are losing the culture war
I could not imagine the absolute headache Henry went through trying to keep the Witcher on track. I'm glad he quit, he was being wasted on the project, I give him props for trying though
@do not no its not. Not spamming
His WH40K will ROCK tho!
The Witcher: Woke Origins
I imagine Henry as Toby's Spiderman in the train scene and the absolute morons are the train and in this instance the train won and flatted Spiderman or Henry in this case into a find red paste.
@@AEspiral yo, what!? Tell me all about this
Lauren doesn’t care about the source material. This was known in 2018 when she didn’t want Ciri to be white. She also wanted Ciri to be the lead not Geralt. She blamed trolls and racists when people objected. The article is online.
Funny thing about wanting ciri as the lead all they needed was to put in the work and put a good show.
If they could get to where ciri is grown up like in the games ,they could have strong lead Ciri base on the game version
Ciri is basically the lead in the books though. Yeah, the early short story collections focus on Geralt (and they're also my favourite Witcher stories) but once you move into the main series with Blood of Elves, the books are pretty conclusively about Ciri. She and Geralt end up on opposite sides of the world and the story largely focuses on her struggles, powers and rivalries from that point on. Geralt is still a major part of the books, and the interactions between him and his adventuring party are Sapkowski's best writing in the series imho, but I think it's wrong to say the books are definitively about him at that point.
Ciri is the main lead in many of the source materials tho…you realize the games aren’t the only material right?
unironically they are racist to the culture that this was based on.
She is a woman obviously she wouldn't care about the source material.
As a fellow Witcher fan, Henry has earned nothing but my respect. He was probably the only good thing in the show and he just have been internally screaming watching those hacks butcher the source material.
I doubt people like you know what the source material is
Edit: I haven't seen the prequel show. I haven't read the source material and I'm sure most of you haven't either.
Edit 2: It's easy to bait Drinker hangers who can't think for themselves, and instead parrot his talking points.
@@reek4062 😂😂
I did not read the books. I did hear all the audiobooks. And this ain’t it .
@@reek4062 wait... Did you like the show?
@@reek4062 Yeah, 'cause people like you know it. This is was hot flaming garbage. No matter how subjective opinions are, if someone likes this shit, needs his head checked.
So Hollywood, Henry Cavill is cancelled because he wanted to respect the lore, played games and wouldn't pop his top off constantly. Meanwhile, Ezra Miller can burgle homes, groom children, abuse drugs, get arrested countless times and choke women to the ground. Either he has pics of Zaslav naked with a donkey or hollywood has lost the plot and my money.
More like both my friend…more like both 😂😅
Cavill cancelled? I don’t think so. He signed up for a Warhammer show recently and I’m sure he will land some pretty big roles in Hollywood. He didn’t say anything wrong, just walked away from sheety Netflix series (and I don’t think Netflix is well respected within big movie studios anyway).
@@wojciechkowalik4949 But merely as an Executive Producer. In the end, it's down to the writers, directors and cast. And remember, Amazon has final say, too, so he's up against a lot.
@@wojciechkowalik4949 theyre still trying to smeer him. there were some attempts at labeling him "gamer bro" and "difficult" towards the female employees or some bullcrap. its just pathetic how low they will stoop.
Wicked minds think alike, and opposites don't attract.
You know it's bad when even the professional critics can't bring themselves to like it.
Like a camp wench following an army, screwing dirty, frightened men for looted cash they have to pretend to have standards.
Someone forgot to pay the right people.
Well, they're not owned by Disney, so...
you do understand that a professional critics do not rate a show based on if they like it or not?
*Professional Critics™
Nothing says "medieval Europe inspired fantasy" as loudly as a black woman, a female samurai and a Wakandian king.
maybe she was mongolian lol
Not “Wakandian” 💀💀💀💀 like bro
michelle yeoh would stick to anything as long as it screams diversity. b!tch passed her prime a long time ago.
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You are aware black people were around right?
Kudos to Henry, like a true Gentleman, he just walked away. Made no comment, said, thank you, have a nice life, and looks for his next challenge. Good for him, this would have haunted him forever.
@THAT GUY
Drinker is very rational and agreeable. God, i WISHED he watched some 'Some More News', at least the non-political videos. I just know and i would bet Money he would like uand understand things like the 'History of Austerity' by 'Some More News' and even laugh at the Part about the "Blah-People".
That definition of true gentlemen is lame af. True gentlemen have had sword duels for goodness sake.
@@justinkennedy3004 only when the argument reached a serious stalemate
I can't wait to see who they replace Henry with. It'll be the only thing worth talking about and it's just going to be more horrible decisions giving us more to laugh at and shake our heads in disbelief that they just don't care "let it all burn" attitudes. Heck they keep getting paid so why would they care.
@@willierants5880 It will probably be a "diversity" cast, to fuck the show up even more.
As a Pole, this show hit us harder than the germans back in 39
Damn
As a German, this needs an up vote cause this joke crushed
Dzień dobry, dobranoc i smacznego.
Niech Bóg błogosławi.
@@janwelk177 Kraut?
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The unfortunate truth is that modern Hollywood has a writing problem. The problem derives from the fact that "modern" writers tend to interchange ATTRIBUTES for VIRTUES. It is a shame.
They also have next to no real-life experience to base their stories on, leaving them unable to write their characters as anything other than stereotypes.
woke culture is the problem
Modern Hollywood has a writer problem because modern Hollywood has a personality problem (or lack of it to be precise). They are all sheep to the woke anarchist cause and don’t know how or what else to write about.
except those "virtues" aint even virtues. More like mockery of real virtues.
Bingo!
I am a Witcher fan from Poland. The second I heard Netflix is gonna do Witcher I knew it would be a disaster.
There is actually really old Witcher tv series(1996), based on books, which was considered pretty mediocre, but now looking back at that it and comparing it to the abomination by Netflix, that series is a fucking masterpiece. I recommand watching it for anyone interested.
Really TV show back then? But without Hollywood big budget and no fancy CGI it's gotta be a poor adaptation. You can't do good fantasy shows without money.
@@jonfreeman9682 It has terrible CGI yes, shotout to episode with Dragon, but it's still pretty decent when it comes to acting, especially since it was made here with respect for source material. It's not perfect or some masterpiece mind you, but still way better than modern day propaganda adaptations.
@@Nick-zp7ot In the polish series at least you can feel it's slavic, not American.
@@jonfreeman9682 for me old series was really good especially during the 90s when Poland had nothing but dirty roads.
hello from Ukraine, I loved that old Witcher series a lot)
I remember when "The Witcher" was a semi-selfcontained, grounded, slavic/scandinavian tale of regular humans who have to live together with other regular low-magic beings and magic in itself was a wonder and rarity, and the WHOLE THING DIDN'T LOOK LIKE SOME ASS-END AFTERTHOUGHT OF AN EPISODE FROM THE NEWER SEASONS OF DR.WHO WHAT THE FUCK
The Witcher (in books) was all about living together with different species, races, all colours and shapes. It was about tolerance (or lack of it) between humans, elves, dwarfs, magical beings etc. The stories had it all - and readers known it, makes the books so popular not only in Poland, but even internationally. Then comes netflix with its showrunner and writers, use the witcher brand and making it in their own, 2020s USA-centric version... And we know the rest.
@yo look at this dipsht replying to his own comment lol spam clowns
"REGULAR HUMANS"?!?!? SOUNDS LIKE A DOG WHISTLE!!! EVEN THOUGH I'M THE ONE WHO HEARD IT, IMPLYING I AM THE DOG.
Yeah in Witcher magic is supposed to be erratic toned down and a rare occurrence.
@@kaputasri exactly, why would you need a Witcher if every other person is a strong Asian or black witch who can kill anything?
My man Henry Cavill built his own computer, played the Witcher Trilogy on hard, and was the backbone of this full show. He is one hell of a guy.
And by backbone of this I just mean The Witcher.
Oh yeah, and he read all the books.
He’s also so passionate about his favorite franchises that he literally is now gonna be producing a warhammer 40k series, fucking legend
So what I'm hearing is he's a gigachad and video game lover? If that ain't some motivation for us, I don't know what is.
@@justlivin2499 Having a fan produce something will be a treat. Imagine having execs who actually love the world they're producing in. It'd be like Arcane, created by the creators of League of Legends, who loved their own lore and created a little masterpiece in animated form.
So basically this is rings of power without a budget.
Pretty much
🤣🤣🤣
summed it up perfectly and thanks to the shorter runtime I was actually able to watch this one at least (without skipping tooooo much) :D
They look about the same lol some money laundering going on because I'm sure this cost Netflix "$300 million" to make.
I thought it was marginally better than Cringe of Power, but that wouldnt be difficult.
Henry Cavil fought long and hard to keep the integrity of the story universe together, and for that he has my utmost respect.
Unfortunately, the showrunners and writers had other ideas, and ran the show into the ground from the start with malicious intent.
Hah
Long and hard
Immature ahhh@@roddydykes7053
The most distilled way its been explained to me is; modern writers doing adaptations is like giving your action figures to your younger sister and she just has them do a tea party.
more like your younger sister throw you beloved action figure to the wall and you saw the remains scattered on the floor, without chance to be repaired.
EXACTLY!!!!
Dunno, buddy, but action figures having a tea party sounds more fun than this thing.
Well said.
Yea that’s pretty much exactly what is happening
I can't imagine how Henry Cavill must have felt going on set every day after realizing that his dream job turned into an active role in the destruction of something he cares about.
His contract might have been a golden cage, but a cage nonetheless.
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The fact that Henry is now in charge of a war hammer 40k show basically proves that at least some higher ups are actually competent instead of pandering idiots
I only hope that Amazon are giving him the creative freedom and not meddling too much. I don't know if Henry Cavill has any writing or directing talent but I'd rather watch something made by an amateur who loves the lore than someone with 100 credits under their belt who doesn't give a shit and just wants to push a message.
@@chriswhinery925 i think a big part of the problem the people getting these writing gigs have like *2 credits* under their belt and a hard on for forced representational box ticking in media. For some reason the absolute wrong kind of people (i.e talentless) are being fasttracked on to multi million pound productions. It's getting beyond bizarre.
Maybe, just hoping that it's not revenge for the Rings of Power. And that It's not a new ploy by Hollywood to attack fans. Like Henry Cavill? He's in our new movie/series.... Nah we changed our mind, not happening.
@@daz2742 yeah as a massive 40k fan myself, Cavill is about the only reassuring thing about the announcement. Amazon has done a number on a few 'how can they possibly fuck this up? - ohhhh, like that' IPs (Wheel of Time and LotR). Really need to hope lessons have been learned, but the doubling down of the 'we know best' attitude of these showrunner types this new witcher shit feels like it represents doesnt make me feel hugely optimistic.
I know nothing of Warhammer but the fact that Cavil is not just in the show but is a producer and he's genuinely passionate about the source material makes me want to try it. It could honestly be the first adaptation in the last 10 years where the show runners actually give a shit (besides Dune). Here's hoping the rest of the producers don't coordinate against Cavil because if the show is good, it will also show what fans have been saying for years that you can only make a successful adaptation IF YOU RESPECT THE SOURCE MATERIAL.
as a Polish witcher fan, i can confirm that I’m indeed upset that directors decided to shit on our culture and mythology and even typical slavic look (which means rather fairer complexion) because these charasteristics weren’t „woke enough”. The ethnical background is what makes the orginal witcher unique. There is no ✨flavor✨in this new „all in one” remake. When we try to include everything so noone can get offended, the final product is simply nothing.
I am ukranian)) I really liked Witcher books cause it hits close to home, styling and all. Even tv show , Cavill in my opinion is tooo western. Should have been some slav dude, and preferably like really really slav. But Cavil was alright even though the western style kept breaking my immersion.)
"include everyone" except Slavs because they are white
@@danyyilbun6736 its whats making it super hard for me to watch the show, he just looks so western that it kinda kills it for me
these shows are not intended for Slavic audiences though - they're intended for westerners. Making the characters look western to appeal to western audiences is basic marketing - I'm afraid Americans are not really interested in watching a show with bunch of Slavs running around (we can always watch the Polish series if we need that 🤣). Of course they could've done this a lot smarter instead of mixing every culture representative possible in every possible group but that's another story.
@@tkaleczyc personally i mean how Cavill looks as geralt, it's just so jarring. i know my mom watched the whole thing, no idea about blood origin but for me its just too off putting
It is heartbreaking to see the state of Witcher series.
The books are easily convertible into a show (unlike some other stories like Foundation for example), the themes of the book are quite deep, it talks about war and xenophobia and racism without glorifying it and it has multiple strong female characters to keep everyone happy. Yet, they somehow fucked it up.
Just recently saw Hypnotic breaking down the fight scene.Ppl in comms where upset about Michelle Yeoh wasting her potential.
And then comes one more riddiculus thing - 1000 reasons why you should watch "witcher: woke origin".
It's because the main character Geralt was white and male
It's funny that the showrunners who seem to be pro-diversity and anti-racism, can't even fathom that the original source material was that as well and in their attempts to create a diverse cast end up failing to tell the story correctly. So their attempts at creating a diverse world actually make the racism, sexism and xenophobia in the original material no longer be educational in the slightest.
@@Mantek430 it's a damn shame... Because Michelle Yeoh is the epitome of a badass actress, she's done majority action based roles since her breakout in the Hong Kong industry in 1985, always does most of her own stunts and overall is just a highly skilled and highly talented actress even in dramatic roles , none of these woke f**ks could ever reach her level.... She is the truest form of an empowered woman and the roles she plays are the truest forms of empowered female characters, but you can't wokiewood to understand that.
Same thing with Wheel of Time. Those books also have many heroic female characters, but the Amazon show destroyed not only the men but the women too. Modern showrunners have zero idea what they are doing (or they know exactly and fuck it up on purpose). I don't get why they hate the source material that much. Mind-boggling .
What in their right mind thought they could make a good spin-off if they got zero respect for the main series by hiring people to do a show who despise the source material? Netflix is destroying itself.
@Chad 007 no
"Hmm..."
-Geralt of Rivia
as source material i assume all the idiots who can't read mean the video games as the show is pretty close to the actual source material... and while Sapkowski hated the video games because as he said that's not his story he worked closely with the netflix show... so maybe actually read the books? i know it's hard so many words but i'm sure you can do it
@freak1337able Nah it's not. Even I can tell that the show doesn't follow the source material and I've only read the first book. There's no way the author is happy with the show
Because the live in the delusion that everything they see they can make better with their ideologies because that's what people want. But that's not what people want. But they are too stupid to see it or simply don't care.
Netflix didn't want to be out-cringed by Amazon. It is basically the Witcherverse equivalent of Rings of Power.
Lol
Rings of Power is infinitely better than this
That doesn’t mean it’s good, either
@@frankiestein78912 in rings of power it was at least losely based on a great story written by someone else, here they had to write everything by themselves so naturally it had to be even worse
dunno why people hate on rings of power, i actually enjoyed it, far more than the house of the dragons
"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made"
-JRR Tolkien
He never said that, NPC.
Big oof to most live action adaptations nowadays.
@@MagcargoMan Yes he did, lack-wit.
@@CalamityM Nope, nice try fake fan. What was said by Frodo in the book was "The shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real things of it's own." Nice going projecting about yourself for parroting things blindly.
This deserves more votes
“I don’t get it! We fixed all problematic aspects of the source material and adapted it for modern audiences, why does everyone hate us!?” - The dimwits that made this abomination and chased away Henry Cavil.
@yo no
a) the writers wouldn't recognise a good story if someone inscribed it a series of stone tablets and dropped them on the writer's head
b) the writers: 'who cares bout the story or the characters, The Message is the important thing!'
Henry was probably quite excited about being part of a franchise that he enjoyed and a lore he cared about. I felt bad for him when he discovered that he was the only one who did.
Actually, one of the writers cared too apparently, then he got fired for it.
He must have because he took a pay cut to play on this role
no he wasnt. there was one writer but he got fired, also the reason why he probably left after that.
Henry literally told his agent to call the show every day to get the role he wanted it so bad.
At least he haves Warhammer now having complete and creative control while making sure they fully respect the IP.
It amazes me that they can score an absolute unicorn of a lead actor like Henry Cavil, with the perfect look, the perfect acting chops and absolute love for the source material, and piss that all away because they just can't get over their hate boner for the fanbase and their obsession with woke politics.
I know right. It's like who put these idiots in charge?
It's an ideology that colors the way they see the world. They're genuinely trying to make what they see as the best show possible, and can't understand why people aren't responding to it. Like any true believer they think there are millions of people out there with the same opinions as them, and the original fans are just a small minority.
It's literally impossible for a Leftist Female to create anything of quality whatsoever
The goal of them is to destroy anything remotely white or christian
How is it not obvious? Kayne talked about them .
We live in Clown World
I'd just like to add that since Henry is clearly a bit fan of the books and games, and that a former writer of the netflix series admitted in a recent interview that several of his co-writers openly showed their hatred and mockery of the source material just supports my theory that at least one of the reasons Henry left was because he did not want to be a part of his butchery of something that he loves any longer.
Mr. Cavill, I tip my hat to you, and I wish you nothing but the best going forward.
Such a fair point. You know for all the shit talked about the Witcher, I kept my head down & followed Geralt's story, & I enjoyed it. If i looked around too much or too deep into other characters, well that's not my point. Mad respect to Mr. Cavill, an actor who, like the greats (Pacino, Di Nero, 90% of the original Lord Of The Rings cast & 97% of the original Star Wars, & hell Star Trek TNG) cared about their characters & treated them as entities who deserve respect, actually found a way to enjoy the Witcher. I tried, I really did, to enjoy Blood Origin, Christ my phone had an alarm set for when it came out. But the acting was so over the top or stunted. 1 of my biggest cringe parts was b4 the made the 1st Witcher, stone fart & Lady Lark pretending to be sexually attracted to each other when they "kissed" there was a sound I heard, a romantic/charismatic black hole opening up in the space/time continuum. Anyways, we'll be ok. Maybe these are all learning sessions for future writers, Gods Please, Make It So. Peace fellow human...
@@opinionsarenotfacts.920 This is all a cycle my friend, sooner of later the hacks get kicked out of any industry and quality returns. Just remember, if you look for it, there's amazing stuff out there still being made, waiting for people who cares about quality to enjoy
“People with an axe to grind instead of a story to tell” brilliantly said sir, bravo
Literal quote from one of the Witcher head writers : "I insist on inserting my queer trauma into everything I write."
This says everything there is to know about modern Hollywood.
@@scratchy996 The weird thing about that is, "Queer" is a political identity, like Democrat. This is literally saying they insist on forcing their politics into everything. What about that is entertainment or desirable?
@@scratchy996 oh fuck....
@@Winterascent It's not meant to be entertaining for the public, it's meant to be entertaining for the writers.
It's like : "If I'm miserable, everyone else should be miserable too."
But the real problem are not the writers and the producers, but people like us who don't unsubscribe from Netflix.
As long as we keep paying for shit, we will receive shit.
Now it’s making more sense why Henry Cavill left his passion project. Smart move Superman
You mean James Bond. F in chat for Superman...
And then he got canned as Superman as well, since Gunn want to make a reboot with a younger Superman
Yep, imagine having to work with this shyte?
You mean The God Emperor of Mankind?
@Hawkknight you don't understand: everyone wants to see Superman's origin story for the 10th time. They have to reboot.
Strong female,gay,lesbian, black, handicap, interracial, it was like watching people act out a check list
Yeah that is the problem with modern "entertainment". I would personally dig a strong female lead in something, so long as she merits the role... not as some agenda.
They can't create characters these days without trying to ingratiate themselves to pressure groups by adding labels to them. A good character shouldn't be based on ethnicity, gender, able-bodiedness, or sexual orientation. Memorable characters are that way because of how they act, not what they look like.
LOL so true, when the two guys turned out to be gay, I just turned it off laughing out loud and shaking my head.
So the only Race you have a problem with being on the show is Blacks?? I see where you going
If they had only included a little Indian dude who realized that he was the only one who remembered the Beatles and made it his mission to introduce all of those Beatles songs to an astonished and grateful world, I would have so totally watched this.
In retrospect it's so weird how everyone loved the first season. I think it was entirely because of Henry. He really *was* that show.
Yes. I cared a little bit about the Yennifer parts and got slightly intrigued about Ciri - but it was Henry who single-handedly carried the show and I was looking forward to every of his scenes and fights.
Yeah I was interested in the monsters and the fight scenes after I saw the story was shit and the looks of yen, triss, fringilla etc. Straight up skipped the yen storyline.
Made by people “with an axe to grind rather than a story to tell” - This!! Spot on 👌
I watched witcher with Henry Cavil out of respect to the actor & he's love for Witcher, series were total abomination, at the end of series I had so much bad feelings I could compare it when you are sick and have tempreature of 38.5 celcius
That about sums up modern show writers.
@@Gensei-Kihara Well, that's just it, isn't it? These clownshows don't even represent the people they _claim_ to represent whose voices they merely appropriated decades ago in service of their spectacularly shitty politics. They're made for absolutely no-one _except_ the people who make them.
The writer just want to build a name for themselves and become famous, not tell a good story and respect the author.
@@Gensei-Kihara If that were the case, they would've wised up long ago. No, this is being funded. The way it was explained to me is that it's more like 'Go broke, get woke,' that is, the studios get into financial trouble _first,_ make themselves ESG complaint so they can cast around for funding, approve a slate of these woke dogshit 'Message' movies and shows and wind up alienating the rest of their paying audience. This is why WB are now the first to begin trying to steer out of the skid now, because they were the first studio to get into the shit, take the ESG dollar and catch poison woke. For example, Netflix's latest modest hit, 'Wednesday' is now facing legal trouble because MGM, the studio that owns the Addams Family rights, were purchased by Amazon back in March. If they get their fingers into that show, you can virtually guarantee the second season is going to be a dumpster fire. They're already set to ruin the Bond franchise.
I'm Polish,and I blame Sapkowski for everything ,his greed has destroyed his work and it's inexcusable in my opinion , he was still bitter for selling the right to the books to CD Project back in early 2000's (fixed sum ,no royalties, and it was pennies) that when Netflix approached him he was more than ready to sell his soul even though he knew exactly what the show would become if he did. Shame on him for recommending 2nd season of the witcher before it came out too, most of witcher fans in Poland cannot stand him.
And all because he apparently didn't think video games were 'serious' enough as an entertainment medium... _lmao_ - talk about sour grapes! Silly old boomer...
I hear he still hasn't admitted that he got his ideas of Witcher from Michael Moorecock's Elric of Melinbone
@@imyoursuperbeast8220 The similarities between Elric and Geralt are few and mostly superficial.
Honestly,I cannot feel that bad about the old man. He is old, wrote some good books and yes he has a shitty character but wouldn't any of us would like at the end of their life to rip off some rich American idiots a couple of millions to live your elder years in comfort?
But I feel dread if on an another attempt to cash in on Witcher the Hollywood will take his Hussite trilogy (I think this books are actually better than the witcher and it's clear he was way more interested in writing those and not the last Witcher books) the Hollywood treatment of Narreturm, Reinevann and all that historical atmosphere would be catastrophic.
Old man hate video games and this is why the success of CDPR's Witcher was pain in his a$$, but only he by himself is a guilty of this small payment. And now Netflix pays more than he received (by own stupidity) from CDPR, and thats why he saying: "how he likes this show". That's fkn sad.
Hollywood is literally using a lecture structure to tell you what to think, not a storytelling.
1 intro:tell them what u will tell them
2 body:tell them what it is
3: conclusion:tell them what you told them
After waking your audience up, convince them you dont think they're idiots
I laughed a bit, but this is sad truth.
Amazingly and painfully accurate.
It's just like God to Baptists school when I was a kid: No entertainment was consumed if it didn't have ThE MeSsAgE!! 🙃🙃🙃
It's a religion
underrated post
Its....always been like this? You just dont like what they are telling you now.
Can we have our own characters please? I’m an old ass Caribbean woman and I fucking love the Witcher books in all their Slavic glory and the games for bringing my favorite characters to life. The books are unique for their complex and deeply flawed female characters and remain a testament to the lasting impact of the women who helped rebuild Poland after the war. Their influence is all over those books. It’s also refreshing to see a stoic, strong yet genuinely good male character with depth and charisma. I crave seeing people that look like me and my family in more entertainment but we deserve our own stories and the fans of these stories want to celebrate what makes them uniquely Polish. This pandering is basically corporate trolling as a marketing ploy and unfairly makes these actors take the brunt of manufactured rage for no good reason than free publicity.
I’m Black American and if goofy Hollywood wanted to do a new series about Shaka Zulu and Shaka was replaced by a slender female character who could easily defeat 15 strong men in 55 seconds and many characters in the Zulu nation were white dudes and LGBT people I wouldn’t watch that BULLSHYT
@@sweetwonkahallelujah7016 ok hear me out…….I want to hate watch this while high af
@@sweetwonkahallelujah7016they already did this shit with Wakanda. It’s woke Zulu
Funny how when critics openly give a movie or show low ratings for political reasons, it’s “expert opinions,” but when fans who’ve known and loved the original source material for decades hate it, it’s “review bombing.”
This entire "all modern everything sucks" shit is just white men going off because their want power fantasies now have a few more black people in them. Just be honest about it.
@Joël You all care massively as you never stfu about it. You think black people doing anything but playing criminals is "woke". So just be honest about the bigotry so us black folks know who to avoid in society.
@@mrelba9176 As someone who considers Toni Morrison and Richard Wright two people who opened my eyes to a broader world view, I find your generalization to be intellectually lazy, at best.
Most people today, myself included, are more put off by the fact that everyone is told they're (insert accusation here) if they lazy, committee produced bastardizations of things they've enjoyed long before all this woke nonsense took off.
Nice try. Way to think for yourself, Mr. N.P.C.
Language is the currency of politics.
Game of thrones had diversity, there were strong male characters, strong female characters, light skin characters, black characters, disabled characters (the hound's burned face, Tyrion being a dwarf, Jamie losing his hand, Theon...), we had Brienne, a really tall/big woman who got bullied because of her height, we had gay/bisexual characters, but did it ever feel forced? no. Did it feel annoying? no. Was it the characters' only personality trait? no. That's because the story was great, and the characters were so well-written. Diversity is never a problem when it's well executed and when it's a subtle detail that doesn't change the whole direction of the story
GoT did what this series _should've_ done: Give every region its own ethnic makeup, so all the different places and people are distinct and recognizable.
Hilariously enough, this makes the show more diverse than these explicitly diverse "Every place looks the same" shows
This's spot on, plus GOT's writters didn't fulfill the need to get any representative character a "I'm the best" screen time, even to the point any distinctive character arc isn't to be found.
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For example (as much spoiler-free as possible) Renly isn't interesting because he just kills every characters in his way with the left hand, while the right one is busy opening a Pepsy can then putting in to his mouth. He is interesting because...of the way he behaves, and specifically the way he interacts with other characters.
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But even those simple story tricks look like flying way above the head of actual majors' movie-makers.
Glad someone understands
Netflix, Disney and Amazon are trying to outdo themselves with these shows
cApItAlIsM iS gReAt
It is on purpose. The same companies own them. I down want to go down the old Kanye road or start mentioning a cool fella Herr Schwab... but we just don't even comprehend how malicious these elites are.
Eh, Amazon actually got decent stuff tbh.
@@KingKien95 Check their Wheel of TIme. Its one of the biggest works of fantasy literature along with LOTR. They turned into a low-cost lesbo-gay-diverse indo gangbang show, cutting away some 80% of the 1st book. Its faaaar worse than Witcher.
@@petrmiros9908
On the other hand there’s The Boys and Invincible. Meanwhile, the other services have crap like Big Mouth…
The part that kept weirdly bugging me was how the musician/elf kept using small daggers in pitched battles. I don't care what kind of kung-fu they're going to pretend she knows, the first guy with a full sized sword, axe or spear and has a basic knowledge of how to use it is going to straight-up body her.
It could be that she doesn't want to fight but she brings some stuff of small size(so that it can be kept in the instrument an pass inspections unnoticed) with her so that she can defend herserlf at least
to be fair it is fantasy. it's not suppose to be real life weapon simulation tactics. it's more like a dungeons and dragons campaign where you could make a effective dagger user. i know the witcher is somewhat realistic when it comes to medieval weaponry but this show barely has anything to do with the title it has.
My biggest issue is that they portrayed the elves as humans…. Yes humans…. The source material that they ignored does clue us in on how they should act.
Reminds me of Amazons "Rings of Power" where they too just portray elves as humans with pointy ears.
I really hate modern day writers portray elves as nothing more than diverse human with pointy ears. To me elves are always the most beautiful being created with slender built and skin as pale as silver, or ivory. Yeap, that sound just like Tolkien's elves, but I get that illusion from other sources.
@@pablito4762 Rings of power did a far better job than witcher
@@pablito4762 The hair styles they gave the elves in ROP was pure comedy gold.
@@Fabianwew Absolutely not
I have the feeling that the only good parts from the first seasons of Witcher (that stayed true to the book) were only there because Cavill fought for them. But Blood Origin is reminding me too much of Rings of Power ... and that scares me
The only good thing about Netflix The Witcher are scenes with Henry Cavill as Geralt of Rivia and Joey Batey as Dandelion/Jaskier.
I don't think I would say this but Rings of Power might be better than Blood Origin.....and that's just...fucked.
@@JK-qn9qr Nah, definitely not. RoP is some next level shit
Why r u surprised when it's happened over and over again. It's seems like Hollywood's Writers Guild jus keeps doubling down on injecting politics into stories that have no place being there! .
@@JK-qn9qr nah. i made it all the way through this, plodding along reluctantly. With RoP i was DONE after one excruciating episode. You can't force me to watch more.
I would like a show all about African, Asian, South American, or
Middle Eastern ancient lore. I like learning about other cultures and it would never occur to me to question that a show specifically dedicated to a specific people when travel was extremely limited would largely only contain those people. If they want to make a futuristic story where travel is extremely common, I would find it completely believable to have a cast of characters of varying races. I just want it all to be realistic and logical and I don't want to be told constantly that the only reason I want things this way is because I'm racist and misogynistic.
Well there's Trese on Netflix. The story arc is a little rushed compared to the comic. But the "strong female character" is much better than this.
I'm still waiting for a proper Mwindo (as I believe it's written), it's a really cool story from Africa, with an AWESOME lesson about knowing you're a badass BUT not overestimating yourself. You'd think Hollywood would love it too, he's abandoned by his father and raised by his aunt.
... If I have to read the same bot commenting "fr" in every reply section one more time, imma paint the wall with my brains.
@@zionleach3001 It's called "Trese"?
I'd even be interested to see some futuristic story with a lot diversity, in the sense that different people groups have mingled to the degree that they've achieved a new level of homogeneity. Having a wide variety of distinctly different ethnicities really only makes sense in a time period of heightened travel, closely following a long period of severe segregation.
I read the books of the Witcher series. It was impressive how much Henry remembered and even said the same lines word by word as the book did sometimes. It hurt how much they butchered some of the characters from the book. The one that hurt me the most was the beast man from the season 2. He was my favorite character who was the first to be in the first Witcher book. Here they made him a pussy. I was so mad how they also butchered Lydia. She wasnt just any villain. She was an amazingly beautiful character. So much suffering in her and all for what she thought right and for the love she had. Fucked her up too…
comment makes me curious to read the original.
When i watched that episode of Season 2 I was kind of confused, and was thinking, "this seams familiar but I just don't remember it like this." So I went back and read it, and yeah, Ciri wasn't even born at that point in Geralt's life, but Netflix put her in the episode.
@@hawkthetraveler6344 I think the witcher books (at least the first half of the first book i read) arent that great tbh. The atmosphere of them is good though. Also liked the first witcher computer game which was super respectful to the books.
Witcher fans: "We want Henry!"
Witcher producers: "You meant Lenny Henry right?"
this
THIS
Hexer Fans Going The Books Way.
😅😅😅😅😅
If you look close at this it shows none of the characters gets any dirt, grime, soot or shmegma on them from battle at all. These strong female and strong diverse female characters are so strong that not even dust can settle on their stunning and brave faces.
I don't think shmegma means what you think it means...
@@bludj992 i mean he was right i saw not one drop of old dick cheese anywhere
@@bludj992 ain't no strong female character gonna be caught dead with shmegma on her face, it's gonna be cooch juice only.
It looks way too cheesy and for some reason it's way too hard to get immersed watching it compared to for example Vikings or Game of thrones
@@bludj992 it’s a joke, Doctor. A funny. Those things we used to have before everyone jammed a stick up their ass.
"As believable and authentic as Steven Segal's hairline" may be the best Drinker line yet!
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It's definitely top 10
As believable as his police training.
Yet.
@user-tm9ho3bm4v literally just came from watching a few of those videos and was laughing my ass off
The trailer made me go from "Hell yeah, more Witcher" to "Oh no, more Witcher" in about 5 seconds, nuff said
Imagine having a Netflix budget, set of talented actors, already built fanbase and then you're like "nah, who needs the source material"
Yeah who needs money what are we a business
Yep literally shitting on the hand that feeds them.
Talented actors? 95% Of the cast are pure diversity hires who are there exclusively because they're not white.
Disney Star Wars Sequel Trilogy: *hold my beer*
typical hollywood narcissists
''This absolute cancer of a show!'' Love the honesty in these reviews!
Ooh, perfect description of so much of modern media: “People with an axe to grind, rather than a story to tell”
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that's plaqueworthy
lmao reapply the logic to this video and you realise the criticism is less about the the writing and story and more of his obsession with races and factions
@@myonionsmatter7843 races and factions are relevant in fantasy genre.
@@myonionsmatter7843 naw the stories just flat out suck bruh. Quit being a cuck sotboiiiii
The worst part for me was the female dwarf carrying a big war hammer like she's somehow Wilt Chamberlain playing Bombaata in Conan the Destroyer.
The sad part in all this is I wasn't even aware she was a dwarf from this video... That tells you something
😂 same bro that was too much. Who the fck made that decision to use a woman dwarf instead of a badass like Thor. Even Gimlee from LOTR was badass but the girl looks so cringe 🤮
First and foremost - if you have a source material full of Celtic and Slavic influences that is loved by people, you leave the Celtic and Slavic influences in the adaptation, obviously. They even had a full soundtrack from the games ready to use as an inspiration. 😢
Where did u found slavic influence in source material? According to pan Andrzej Sapkowski, witcher is no slavic at all, it has a lot of scandinavian and europe mythology
@@Rikbrit hell one part of the continent (Toussaint) is literally miniature France. Not very slavic...
@@Rikbrit the whole monster lore is based in slavic paganism ffs have you even read the books?
@@Rikbrit influence can be subtle, I never said it’s fundamentally Slavic. Even if it’s a classic fantasy with a pinch of Slavic, Celtic, Portuguese, Scandinavian or Andersen notes, these are important nevertheless. And the Netflix series are lacking in every department, from costumes to understanding any European mythology. Forgive me, but I’m not going to list all of them.
@@Rikbrit slavic aren't Europeans these days?
I often wonder if the poor writing, bad set design, and half-arsedness of the production is a symptom of the writers' hatred of the source material or the cause of it. That being said, writers' hatred of the source material is so widespread that it has basically killed fantasy.
No need to brood about it - these shows are targeted for no audience. Just create something to have something, paychecks, move on. Almost like we didn't expect anyone to watch it.
Q: What do the writers hate the most: The lore, the audience, the craft of storytelling, the reviewers, or joy?
A: Yes.
No, that’s just Netflix’ low budget… they have been cutting down on everything and even announced that they might put ads on Netflix and ban account sharing. :/ they are dirt poor now…
I see them more as cultural imperialists who see everything else as bad or problematic and they want to fix it in the most stupidest way they can do.
Not enough black ppl
-writers probably
I always find it odd when mainstream critics don't positively review content that was clearly made for them.
Check didn't clear.
Probably Netflix forgot to pay the bribes.
@@JohnnyBurnes LMAO
@@JohnnyBurnes I'd guess a lot of their checks won't clear, if they keep writing like this...
@@sneeringimperialist6667 I doubt it. they are using your money after all lol. not theirs
I love that Lauren Hisrich said she wouldn't use anything from the games in the TV show and would stick strictly to the books (as if she's too good for the games), then proceeded to completely butcher the books.
I kind of liked the beginning when the bard says “it is a boring story, told thousand of times” … and how right he was!
Poland here ;p
Well, the most funny thing here is a fact that original Sapkowski stories were talking about racism and prejudice from totally different perspective than typical contemporary piece of art, so a reader/watcher could think: oh, this prejudice is so artificial, they look/think basically the same.
But noooo... lets tell once again a story about Driving Miss Daisy.
Also, yeah, it is possible to tell a diverse racial story even in historical medieval settings. Just look at the Cordoba or Constantinople where you could find people from any known corner of the world. But even then, they would be divided by guilds, houses, districts, temples, functions (military), not put all together as McDonald at the friday evening -_-
"Just look at the Cordoba"
*urge to Reconquista rising*
one question was poland ever black?
Dzień dobry, dobranoc i smacznego.
@@polarvortex6601 Nie.
@@polarvortex6601 yes, always, because now Slavs are POC'S apparently.
Use this when they try to say the story was "too white". Just say, "the story is polish, poles are slavs, and slavs are POC'S. Stop being racist" to those morons who make everything racial
"People with an axe to grind instead of a story to tell" are handed chainsword and faqton of cash.
You could have ethnically distinct countries, with a sprinkling of other races, from other areas, traders and whatever, but if you must have a diverse cast all in one place, here's a thought, why not have lots of the story set in port cities, or crossroads on trade routes, where the different races converge. Which usually makes for a interesting setting, for deceits, double crosses and heroism, and shady dealing in back street bars. Istanbul sort of thing, I'm not a writer or anything, but you know, it just might work visually and plot wise.
Which city?
@@grantflippin7808 Which city, what?
I am from Poland. I watch the very first Witcher adaptation with Polish actors (early 2000s). Back then I thought that it looked cheesy, but now I think it was the most faithful and so far the best Witcher adaptation. Just because it says production is made by Americans and has big names ( Although I think Henry Cavil was the best actor of modern series along with Jaskier, Ciri and Yennefer), does not mean good quality. What I liked about the Polish production, is that I felt immersed in the world the series has portrayed. And the Jaskier songs (voiced by Zbigniew Zamachowski) were fantastic. However it was the scene of Pavetta's rage where I felt the full magic of the show.
To prawda!
Oh jeah i did a Review about that one ony Channel it speaks volumes about todays careless media that the stuff 10-20 years ago with low Budget and cheesy acting is still more faithfull to the source material than what comes out today.
The best thing about the Netflix Adaptation was gerald and now he is gone so now the show lost all legit claim to the witcher Franchise
I defend that series and love it to this day.
Yeah, the practical effects and cgi are terrible and they left out or mixed up a lot of stuff from the books. But the atmosphere, the actors, the immersion, and the music are absolutely great. And Michał is unmatched as Geralt. Pity. So many millions spent by the Americans and the result is terrible. ( zdraví Pepík z Čech : ) )
I agree, saw that adaptation on UA-cam back when it was still available and I think it is far more convincing and faithful to the source material than any of the games, not to mention Netflix adaptations. It is easy to laugh today at practical effects in TV show from central-european country 20 years ago. Look at the western TV shows from the 90s. Michal was great as Geralt. I think anyway that short stories and novellas from early Sapkowski work are his best works, and maybe the first novel. But even from his later bloated and chaotic novels it is possible to get enough good material to have a decent show. But no one seems to want that.
I’m so sorry that this has happened to the Witcher, just remember that there are actually Witcher fans who have read the books and played the games in other parts in the world
Thanks for hesitating to use the word woke. I empathize. It's getting harder and harder to describe how I feel about shows like this in polite conversation without using that word, but I'm about done trying to conceal it behind euphemisms.
Why mince words? We all know exactly what woke means. If the shoe fits...
Yeah I find it annoying that there's situations where there's propaganda against whites and men and people call it "woke". It's not woke, its just racist and sexist. It's also a word used really only by people who hate this sort of stuff. Drinker is a writer which is why his vocabulary is very diverse.
@@Snagprophet That's about how I see it though. It's gone beyond some sort of "awake and seeing" and has crossed about 50 lines to the point where it's considered to be divisive to say "showing up to places on time is a good thing" is simply The Bias of Professionalism Standards ( this is the actual article title name).
@@peteranon8455 Nah, I read an article from Oregon where being on time to work and NOT late was an example of White Supremacy. So, woke and non-white seem to fit pretty well together as of late.
@@ZPositive lmao, you have no idea what woke means.
"The Witcher: Blood Origin is about as believable as Steven Segal's hairline" - the Drinker, 2022, paraphrased.
The Critical Drinker: "Wow, 2022 hasn't been a good year to be a Witcher fan."
Me: "Wow, 2022 hasn't been a good year to be a movie, tv/streaming, or anime fan."
Mob Psycho tho
Well for anime at least this season has a lot of certified banger tho
There were plenty of good animes and mangas
Nnnnnope
I've long lost my hopes for the future of tv and cinema. The product can only be as good as the passion that is involved in creating it. If you take a huge shit on lore you're only insulting the people you want to attract. Henry Cavill was the only person it seems who was so very passionate to bring the witcher to life and even hoping to bring it to the attention of those who do not know it. But money is all that matters to the people in charge and it's killing the very thing they live off of. It's quite a sad sight to behold indeed.
Latin American here. Anyway, not sure, it seems most "woke" people only care about the message. Or maybe they are just so deluded/brainwashed from living in a bubble that they think most people like "woke" garbage. When in reality most people in the planet actively dislike it.
@griffy ye Why do these fake spambots have up many likes?
I don’t think they like money because they are loosing a lot
It's not even about money at this point cause most of these shows are starting to lose it
Grab a book and enjoy. Forget tv and cinema.
I'm impressed that the writing team not only took advantage of the "bring your daughter to work" day but also let them do the writing
.... at least you tried.
Quite funny.
At least children have an imagination...
@@michaelbrand1173 yeah but there's nothing coherent or logical between the 2 random ideas haha
This was a new one. You made me chuckle. Thanks.
I loved the part where the dwarf marched into the city with the others disguised in the armor of a soldier they killed. No one on their side seemed to think that might be a bad idea and no one in the city seemed to notice the three-foot elf in the formation.
At that point everything was so bad I just said to myself, "why not"?
The problem is not about the city but about the other guards,since they mostly know their collegues (i think) they should know that in the army there is no dwarf or something,but most of the times other guards are usually killed almost right away so they don't even have time to point it out
You can always find explanations, for an example that she was overlooked easily in the crowd and once in the city it’s too late, probably most people at the time not being smart by the way to make the connection and yell out 😂
Also, I was like, how did there just happen to be a uniform that conveniently fit the dwarf?Where did it come from? There weren’t any dwarfs in the original army. 🤷🏾♀️
@@ashdapr1 episode 4, 4:31 you can clearly see she just got the helmet plus this chain/emblem all other knights wearing.
If people decide to follow the mass opinion you end up watching like this and add from your memory 😂
Much appreciate you choosing to include some of the more tolerable scenes from S1 in this to get us through it, Drinker. You're a far more considerate fellow than the show writers who decided to hijack the popularity and excellence of good source material because their terrible story lines can't stand without something to parasitize.
My wife and I considered watching the first episode last night. She is a lot more open to trying a show than I am. After watching the trailer for the show, i have never seen her decide against watching something that quickly.
Even the trailer looked like absolute garbage. How are these people getting paid?
@yo no
Simple E.S.G.
That is all it takes just pander to a certain number of quotas and they get money for a pile of shit from last nights dinner.
"This is the kind of shit that happens when rich liberal Californians that have never been in a fist fight or a working class pub, have to write a scene about both."
On the head!!!
*gay rich liberal....
@@Knightfire66nope now you made it weird
@@Knightfire66Homosexuals are canon in Witcher, cry about it
This isn’t a working class pub tho. The drinker and all you incels have Servette brain damage.
Is this „liberal“ and this „diversity“ with you in your room?
LMFAO!! 🤣🤣🤣
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the witcher world completely devoid of magic until the Conjuction of Spheres brought it there along with monsters and Humans? So how can a sorcerer even exist prior to the conjuction and cause it?
So what is it: Are they making a ridiculously predictable "twist" that this isn't the world of The Witcher, but the world from which the Wild Hunt comes from, or are they once again ignoring the established lore for their own convenience? Either way sucks...
They are just not even interested in their own lore. They basically made up that there is "magic" and "chaos magic" which is supposed to be stronger somehow and comes from another world. Which is weird because in the actual series they only ever talk about "chaos magic" but there is literally no difference aside from "fire".
That's what I was thinking. I thought the non-humans and monsters went to the human world during some event. (I can't really remember its been awhile since I looked at witcher lore)
@@Kamo442
I mean they are right in the idea that humans came to the world of elves and dwarfs. That's why they are called "Elder races" because they lived there before. Monsters also came TO the world (which makes sense because they just cross). Though it isn't said that there were NO monsters before since you could argue whats the difference between monster and animal? I am not sure anymore if the books also said that this conjunction introduced magic to the world in general or just to humans (since I guess the idea is that these humans came from our world). I feel like both interpretations would be fair. Just stick with one and don't mix them up like they did in the show.
Only other important point is that elves from the Witcher world also traveled to another world which are then the Aen Elle
You also forgot to mention the part where Witchers were created from human kids that were experimented on for years and years first by the wizards from the Rissberg order and then by the expert mutagenists Idarran, Malaspina and Alazur, all a long time AFTER the conjunction of the spheres....whereas in this shitshow the first "witcher" is an elf that drank a reinforced mojito and then did the oompa loompa bdsm dance with some monster entrails
Haha good joke thinking the writers even know what the conjunction is, or how magic appeared. They know it's a medieval fantasy product so go to their Hollywood definition of medieval fantasy and just use that info, they don't care about little things like franchise lore
This is far more entertaining than the actual show. 😅Thank you. 😁
Fr
I bet "yass queen" was said at least 9 times during the writing.
And "fam"
"slay it" 💅
"bro, that's so brah, bruh!"
"yes yes let's do that that would be wholesome 100 moment"
slay queen or some sh!t these millenials says nowadays.
Imagine celebrating the "reimagining" of a well-beloved franchise because it has a few changes in ethnicity.
“If the only time you think of me as a scientist is during Black History Month, then I must not be doing my job as a scientist.” - Neil deGrasse Tyson
I know nothing about the source material, games or books, but just the fact that as an actual passionate fan of it Henry Cavill was willing to walk away from the lead role because they were butchering the lore has given me so much respect for the guy.
I'm not sure how that's a valid point of view though. What if Henry started to support some shitty stuff, would you support it as well? Nothing a priori wrong about having role models, but not shaping your own worldview and your own opinions is almost a crime against reason. I would recommend using your rolemodes more like a tourist guides- see where they lead you, but you have to see the scene with your own eyes and try to understand it with your own mind...
@@malyvo0 I think celebrity worship is stupid as well but did you read what OP wrote wrong or something? Dude said nothing about role models in any way. All he said was that he respects him for his actions which I do too. Playing Geralt was Cavill's literal dream role, he knows the books so well that he even ended up helping production with questions about the lore, so just the fact he left it all behind because of how bad it was getting says a lot about the guy. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less.
@@malyvo0 Nobody said anything about his personal beliefs outside the context of the show, quit reaching for straws.
@@malyvo0 Did you seriously just made up an argument/problem out of thin air by bringing the conversation to something that wasn't even remotely related to what the OP said. Holy shit. Reading comprehension. *READ* before answering, you absolute doofus.
@@malyvo0 Yep you definitely misread the "actual passionate fan of it" part which was referring to Henry Cavill being an actual passionate fan of the Witcher, NOT OP being a fan of Henry Cavill lol
…”it feels about as believable and authentic as Steven Segal’s hairline.”
😂
In terms of the “diversity” you mentioned
in every geographical area, they did the same thing with The Wheel of Time. In the first episode they are in The Two Rivers, which is a majorly secluded area which rarely gets visitors and the area has an ancient history. The book even describes what a Two Rivers person looks like and describes how weird it is that one of them looks different. It’s a major plot point in the book, because obviously this character did not originally hail from the Two Rivers. However, in the show it’s just a “diverse” hodgepodge. It literally made 0 sense.
You could tell that show would be trash the second you saw the casting, well really even before that when they put out the description of the show and it had the most feminist interpretation of the world of WOT possible. Ethnic conflict is an enormous recurring story point within the books and Rand being Aiel is also a core plot point. Having the two Rivers look like LA is retarded, It would be like having a show about some isolated town in NH or Maine and have it being racially diverse, it makes absolutely no sense.
@@watariovids1645 yup. But they had to check the diversity box. I quit watching about 5 min into episode 3. I couldn’t watch such a disgrace to Robert Jordan’s work.
“As long as it’s not important to the story” explains like you pointed out. Them- You guys are just racist or they don’t always have to follow the story.
Just wait for the Seanchan in season 2 😂
@@Henry-jp3mc I don’t have to because I won’t be watching it😂
I think a lesson we're all learning is that if you own a particular successful intellectual property, don't sell it to Hollywood unless the give you total creative control.
Or just don't sell it at all.
To be fair, Sapkowski would sell Witcher rights to the devil himself, if it meant getting that moolah.
The author is a talented hack.
The bad thing is that you have to fight like hell to keep an IP in your possession, apparently the system is designed to steal them from you if you don't sell it or put it in someone's else's hands eventually
@The Witch Of Long Winter smart .
I saw an article saying that The Witcher: Blood Origin was a Christmas gift for superfans. Pretty bold of them to outright admit they gave the fans coal.
😂😂😂 I’d watched Season 1 five times and Season 2 three times, it was my favorite show, and when Blood Origin came out all I felt was big disappointment, the true point of no return for the beginning of the end of The Witcher
Inclusivity or not these writers would’ve given us absolute dribble.
"People with an axe to grind instead of a story to tell", what a great line
"It's what happens when people with an axe to grind instead of a story to tell are put in charge of a massively popular ip built by far greater minds than their own." Very eloquently put Drinker! You hit the nail on the head.
"They are shitting on the shoulders of giants".
Another magnificent Drinker quote.
dude rants more about race and gender in the video than he has any real criticism of the story and writing, kinda ironic. the incel crew at it again.
@@myonionsmatter7843 the show throws multiculturalism and feminism in his face and you're blaming him for taking notice? lol?
If I have to see one more angry woman parading about like she can beat everybody down and know they couldn't beat a 13 yr old boy.
@@snowcloudshinobi how does it throw it in your face? multiculturism exists everyday. in fantasy videogames you have dwarves, Drow, tieflings in a party and there is no seething crying SJW. weebs man
"Don't feel bad about it Henry, you were far too good for them". I couldn't agree more.
Give this man a lead role in a different medieval fantasy show. He's perfect for these and it's greatly disappointing that his talents are wasted on Netflix' The Witcher.
"Man, I'd love to show this to a pub full of Witcher fans in Poland. It would be fuckin' wild." I laughed so hard at this line...
I absolutely love how more and more people are actually waking up and coming together united in the hate for shows like this! Makes me tear up.
I feel bad for Henry he is an amazing actor and loves the source material of the shows he wants to work on that Hollywood's wokeness just ruins it for him and he hates he can't do anything about it, can't wait for his WarHammer 40k series that he is heading
WokeFlix is back at it again.
@yo no
For a second there I thought you were talking about Lenny Henry and I had an aneurysm.
Fuck, I thought you meant LENNY Henry for a minute and I was thinking wtf 😂😂
Do recall that the other show Drinker bases on IS from Amazon like 40k will be. So let us temper our expectations considerably. I'm hoping he'll get 40k back on track to being a Satire piece, the over the top seriousness from the fanbase has gotten a bit too idiotic lately.
Your solution to the use of diverse characters by putting different races in different tribes/nations/etc is something I've been whining about for a few years.
Play The Elder Scrolls.
I'm huge Witcher fan. I'm from Poland, so to me this series is very personal and close. I watch polish serial Witcher when I was a little kid with my brother and my uncle. When I was older I read all books and I fell in love with world created by Sapkowski. I remember first time when I play the first game it was a wonderfull experience for me, I use to weke up every morning and play this game, I waited for the second and third game like hell. When I was older and my mental helth was bad (I had depression), I used to get in my car and ride to the woods. I spend houres in wild reading this series, and this story helped my get through worst time of my life. Hell, I even nemed my dauther Cirilla. I wrote my batchlor about the Slavic coulture in Witcher, I have tattoos inspired by Witcher, I train sword fight. So you can see how much this series has inpact on my life, and now when I watch this shit, I feel ofended and in some way betrayed. This Netflix crap shoudn't by called Witcher, becouse this has nothing common witch the Witcher. It's punch to face to the Slavic coulture and spit in the face of fans not only here in Poland, but all over the world. I don't belive in coultural apropriatnion, but if it exist this netflix shit is best example of it. I hope only that oders great fantasy series don't get woke thretment like Witcher.
Great
Wait, there is polish Witcher TV series?
@@madkoala2130 yuup, but I don't recommend it. It od fun for me becouse I grow up with it. You can find it on UA-cam, by searching Wiedźmin 2002 or 2001 I don't remember, and I don't think three is an english version.
@@philipmocny6768 look if anything is better then Netflix Witcher (or most of the Hollywood to be exact) or any movie that currently being made in my homeland then I can swallow it.
@@madkoala2130 so check it, you can find all episodes on UA-cam, but only Polish language.
Every year that goes by I'm just in mor eand more awe about how great Henry Cavil is when you see the absolute scale nad magnitude of his ability to absolutely rivet you while being surrounded by just awful cancerous nothingness. Just him being on the screen in a witcher scene is almost enough to make the show good. YOu can't take your eyes off him in anything he's in. It's kinda surreal cuz it creeps up on you. They didn't understand he was the only reason people were watching in the first place a show that was so awful.
Dude is a very average actor.
@@seanthomas1552 Not gonna lie and say I think he is on the same plane as Bale or Phoenix. But he has this lovable charm and genuine quality about him, that for me goes a long way. A very long way. It shines through in his work, and therefor it becomes great. At least those are my 2 cents on the matter. I think his two most prominent roles were mishandled, but not by him. I should love his Superman and Witcher the most, but I find myself liking him better as the villain goon in Mission Impossible. Because Tom Cruise might be a bit nutty, but the dude just knows how to make movies and manage the talent that is hired.
@@seanthomas1552 So was John Wayne, until he was older.
@@lawlietriver8869 I think it's mostly his presence. Cavil has a physical charisma to where you're drawn towards a scene that he's in because he makes it look more epic than it actually is.
I thought yenefer was pretty compelling.
Shows like this seem to solely serve as a reminder that life is unfair.
To the writers that have to put a self insert into the story. To show how the big bad industry misogynist disrespected her, again and again.
I think I speak for all of us when I say the real audience looking at this want a series/movie that closely follows the source material and has internally consistent, fact checked story. We want psychologically fleshed-out characters, realistic physics, consistent non-physics (magic) mechanics, and a captivating scene rhythm. Everything else is a bonus: good graphics and effects, pretty people, battle choreography, music, costumes, and even above average acting, Id say. Sometimes you can get away with mediocre acting and not ruin the immersion.
We don't care about the color of anyone's skin, as long as it's the skin the source material describes. And if it doesn't, and it's a good fit for it, you can make them green for all we care.
This is literally the formula. Its that simple. And in a world where the movie industry is so powerful and wealthy this is trivial to make.
I know people that can make computer algorithms that can write book adaptations with such parameters and spit them out daily.
But Hollywood can't be bothered.
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Praise the emperor that Henry is now executive producer of a 40k series. If Amazon wants to interfere with quotas.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES!
"ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN"
Am going to assume GW have nailed down any language in the licence deal that prevents creative bull.
Given the current trajectory of mass media entertainment... I hope for the best but fully expect the worst.
The thing is that GW is also EXTREMELY protective sometimes of their IP. If Henry can pull this off, they'll get so many teef from us for merch.
I saw this in my Netflix recommended, just laughed, and then moved on.
You still have Netflix?!
Same
@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 not gonna lie I too still have netflix just for shows like lucifer and peaky blinders but I'm moving on from netflix soon as its simply not worth a penny to me anymore
@@theslayer1197 Honestly, I don't really judge anyone, I just am always surprised. I like early "Lucifer" too... I was just done with Netflix after "Cuties" no matter what else they had/have.
@@theslayer1197 u can watch those shows for free ...why pay Netflix
"I hate this nonsense... With passion."
-Bilbo Baggins
These bots are killing me, literally.
Jennifer Lawrence said this first, bilbo was just quoting her.
@@johns.1854 Jennifer Lawrence invented the English language so in reality we're all just quoting her
@@Kernwadi Video Blocker for UA-cam and any account blocker extension will let you filter them, even with Regex.
@@champ1159 stop minimizing the accomplishments of this stunning and brave pioneer, you misogynist. Jennifer, Lawrence invented consciousness, OK?
Henry Cavill is the ONLY reason that kept me watching the Witcher Season 1 and 2 i could tell he is that star player that makes the team better because he loves his role
"Those with an axe to grind rather than a story to tell". Yep, that pretty much sums up the current state of things perfectly Drinker. Well said as always. Angry, entitled, spiteful, immature children in adult bodies. I've had the misfortune of working with such people and it's an utterly exhausting and soul destroying experience. You're looking at an adult but it's like your talking to a moody teenager who's screaming "it's not fair" at you for grounding them on the night of the big party.
Yep. They're doing it everywhere, sadly; sports, cinema, entertainment, academia, journalism, science, medicine, and on and on and on... They're more focused on signaling how virtuous they are than they are on providing their customers a quality product/service. Checking boxes and appeasing the woke but vocal minority is clearly their priority.
@@keyser456 Well said. For a long time this whole situation was very confusing, but now we all know what's going on. The word is out.
Very well put.
One thing that I love when it comes to fantasy and sci fi universes is a well-realised and believable world where it feels like there’s already been centuries of events that have taken place before the story has ever begun. World building is an important facet of storytelling as it can easily destroy the story, the plot and every character in it all if somebody either forgets how an economy works or what it would be like to travel over a hundred miles on feet.
Respectfully, the kind of people who write shows right now have never walked even 5 miles and couldn't explain how an actual economy works because the closest thing they ever studied was a "Why Capitalism is Evil" class at their university.
@@matthewmosier8439 It's scary how spot on your comment is.
I disagree. World building is important but it's secondary to a good plot. Granted, if there's poor world building, everything else must be that much better to compensate for it if you want people to like your work of fiction. But it's not THE biggest factor and a LOT can be overlooked if everything else shines.
I like to use the original three Star Wars movies as an example. If you critically examine the feasibility of something like the Death Star, or whether a bunch of stone age walking teddy bears would really prove that much of a hindrance to a galaxy-spanning Empire, you can rule it all as absurd very quickly. But most people overlook those things because they're invested in the story's characters and want to see them succeed in spite of the odds stacked against them.
The Witcher fails on BOTH accounts though. There was not a single character shown that I cared about and the lore behind events was a muddled mess. Things appeared to happen with no rhyme or reason behind them, nobody's motivations were clear or understandable, and overall everything had this "generic fantasy" vibe to it with little to distinguish it from the countless thousands of other stories just like it.
That's why diversity don't work in terms of fantasy. Because diversity makes every city, every nation, every race, every world looks like California.
_"It genuinely makes me question who this show was even supposed to appeal to. Oh yeah: modern audiences."_
Is that not the purpose of high-budget fiction?
Artistic integrity means nothing if no one wants to consume what you create, and your goal is profit.
The amount of people I have seen who wanted to be some brilliant auteur director and then no one watched their content could fill a stadium. I am sorry that art as a commodity is a racket, a game, a manipulation and often stupid.
Create product.
Sell product.
Repeat.
Otherwise: pick a non creative career, create art and distribute it with less monetary burdens.
Go make 21 dollars an hour being the best bucket drummer in NYC. Or don't. I don't care.
@py_a_thon: Shut up, dork.
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The whole profit stuff isn't consistent wlth those woke modern movies and shows tho.
They all flop financially because nobody likes watching that shit except a small minority. There is a reason why they all get cancelled withing 1 or 2 seasons.
@@py_a_thon yes, the point is to make money
Which is why you should target an audience that actually exists, not the one some disconnected ideologue wishes existed, which is what everybody says when they say 'made for a Modern Audience'.... the 'Modern Audience' is a fantasy cooked up by over-educated, under qualified hollywood execs who think they can change the world by making stupid movies and bad TV
@@petriew2018 Many films hated by critics and political pundits have grossed hundreds of millions or 1billion+
Example: Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness = 955 million dollars box office only on a 200 million dollar budget.
That is an INITIAL return of 500%. And 75+ years of ownership of the product for subsequent monetization. That intangible is now entirely black ink on the balance sheet. Every year for 75+ years.
To drive the example home: many critics hated the movie, this youtube channel person included.
Doesn't matter. 500% return. Initially. Only on the box office run.
The fact the creator said that Cavill is basically the show him leaving means its done
yep, they'll loose most viewers before, after and during season 4.
What do you mean that the Witcher is the core aspect of the show ‘the Witcher’?
@@theylivewesleep.5139 What do you mean what do you mean