The failure of feminist Hollywood
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"We don't need strong female characters, we need strong characters that just so happen to be female."
there have been so many good female characters in movies in past, thats whats funny about them making bads ones then blaming us men for being sexist and not liking also She Hulk in comics was a good character.
This applies to everything honestly, just write good characters Hollywood
This quote is like, a sentence long and perfectly describes how to write a good female character lol, how do so many shows and such mess it up?
@@DgardsGaming Literally my favourite Hulk from the comics, why did they have to fuck her up that badly? 😭
Super agreed.
We went from Spider-Man and “with great power comes great responsibility”
To She-Hulk and “saving people are for narcissists, billionaires, and adult orphans”
That, in itself, is a narcissistic statement
She hulk is dumb
Girl has no respect for the people who fought and died to save everyone's ass.
Is there such a thing as an adult orphan? Never heard of it till now.
@@derrickdaniels3955 as far as I'm aware. Age doesn't change the fact that your parents are ded.
@@derrickdaniels3955 there are several in fiction. Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark are two notable examples.
The “narcissists, billionaires, and adult orphans” was engineered to be a direct stab at Tony Stark. As is the fad nowadays in superhero movies: make fun of what came before
Legally blonde is a great example of correct female lead writing, Elle breaks the "Dumb blonde" trope, she's kind and compassionate and feminine but she's also snarky and smart and motivated and self empowered, while not needing to tear down men on the way. She does her own thing and empowers other women
So true, she was extremely feminine and capable and competent without compromising herself
That’s why I love legally blonde it’s a great movie and great character and it’s way better now.
In addition, she actually goes through the hero's journey and has to grow as a character, changing from somebody who just wanted to follow her boyfriend to Harvard law school to someone who buckles down, studies relentlessly, and becomes more capable in the process!
And she still gets to fall in love!! It's not one or the other. She gets to be feminine and powerful and struggle and still get a cute guy.
But then Legally Blonde, she is pretty much happy to be an airhead bimbo until she becomes the woman scorned.
It is pretty much saying women won't make an effort to improve themselves unless it is for a man.
I think the perfect example of a modern female character done well is pretty much anything Emily Blunt gets involved in. The Day After Tomorrow, Sicario and A Quiet Place being perfect examples of fleshed out characters who are brilliantly written and acted.
100% Emily Blunt is definitely one of my favs.
*edge of tomorrow. And yes.. she’s super hot in that movie and a bad ass. And no part of her badassness ever felt forced. AND Tom was a huge weeny at first.. also didn’t feel like man hating garbage. Weak men exist. And he got hard so it was cool.
I read that Blunt said she won’t do a movie is the script says anywhere.. strong powerful woman. Lmao smart.
You’re so right. She was amazing in Edge of Tomorrow.
Sicario and her character "brilliantly" written . Hm it's ok but her acting is atrocious
She plays a FBI field agent like an emo teenager. Completely overplaying her emotional instability to the point they would never trust her with a weapon and immideatly fire her. Imo the script is ok but her acting is just way of.
@@NoMirr0rin Quiet Place she gave birth to a baby boy in a bathtub, watched her husband die took care of all 3 three kids while blowing head offs of those alien things..nowadays I feel like women will go, nah can't play a mother with 3 kids role as if that'll make them look weak or inferior.
“Men are too masculine, that’s toxic”
Proceeds to create female characters that are extremely masculine and present that as great strong women.
Say what?!?
I 100% agree
The key word to these fools is "men". They dont care if women do it.
Executives: "We're going to empower women! Let's make our female character a hard-drinking tomboy who acts more like a man than an actual male character."
Watcher: "That's not an empowered woman. That's a man in a woman's body. It's cringe."
Executives:
Under the new film making blueprint, women are also no longer allowed to be even remotely sexy - and yes, that can be achieved in a respectful way.
Don't you know that for woketards, masculinity is only good when a woman shows it and femininity is only good when a man shows it?
Never forget: NOBODY had a problem with "Ellen Ripley" taking the lead in "Alien". And we're talking 1979, here. And then again in "Aliens" in 1986. She was badass, and everyone loved the character. Why? Because she wasn't there to make men look stupid and inept. She was surrounded by brave, competent characters, and fought bravely WITH them. "Ripley" is the character feminists need, but don't deserve.
And The Bride from Kill Bill, Laurie Strode from Halloween, Sarah Connor from Terminator...
@@RockLeeBl These are real strong women, just because they had NOT put away their feminity !
Amen
Facts
I think it's mostly because those characters could also be played by men and nothing would really change.
“We spent all our time making sure we could make men feel as unwelcome and unwanted as possible”
“Men not wanting to watch our shows is due to prejudice”
REAL😭
Solid Comment here.
And , "Madame Web" just drove this point home with authority.
"It's like writers WANT people to hate female leads."
Honestly, that's the thesis right there. That's the crown jewel of this whole video.
Yeah, they make them so bad that it is hard to defend their actions.
almost sounds like the garden of Eden hmmmmmmm
The trans actors are coming...
You're supposed to like them because vagina blah blah blah misogineeeeeeee!
@@misterl0gic Aren't trans actors just actors in general?
That moment when an adult is less responsible than a high school student who accidently got superpowers from being bitten by a radioactive spider.
Why does the MCU universe respect Okoye? Not because she's a woman who demands we respect her. It's because she's a warrior who is loyal to her king and her friends and will fight to the death for them, and she's a woman.
Peters the gold standard only spider totems are that responsible
Kevin Le I dropped the movie once she utter that line, "The Avengers is for billionaires, narcissistics, and war orphans." I know the Avengers are fictional heroes and people, but watching their characters progress and develop through every movie from "narcissistics, billionaires, and war orphans" into better people who help change the world to a better place kind of make me want to be like them (not the superhero abilities).
In the end of the day, I may not be a superhero like Hulk, or Thor or Dr Strange, but at least, I can play my part as better human being to help people. Then, out of nowhere you have a movie like She-Hulk where you have a nobody character who is downright narcissistic and typical victim behaviour downplay those characters progression like as if their efforts in Avengers Endgame worth nothing at all.
@@colleenross8752 thank you! Okoye is so underrated, she is such a strong and amazing female character.
@@orionwolf7393 I have no clue what okoye is
the entertainment industry has just got so lost with what makes "strong female characters" "strong female characters".
they're now stuck printing out invincible unstoppable girlbosses who overpower foes twice their size...
none of these obnoxious girlboss characters will be remembered in 40 years like Ripley and Sarah Connor and Leia etc,
those old great strong female characters weren't considered strong because they are unstoppable, but THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
they went up against opponents far stronger than themselves but didn't back down,
their strength was in their character and will to carry on, spitting in the face of terrible odds.
How in the world did we go from Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor to She-Hulk (really any female Marvel superhero) and Ghostbusters (2016)?
Nepotism and female writers + directors with daddy issues are a hell of a combination. 😂
"Do you know how often I have to control my anger while men explain my field of expertise to me?" - as she loses her temper explaining Hulk's field of expertise to him
absolutely nailed perfect comment
Perfect!
Wow
While those men a part of the same profession.
💯
There is nothing more narcissistic than having the ability to “save the world,” and then thinking “nah, MY career is so much more important.”
But that's none of my business....
Also it's irrational : What career is she expecting to have in a destroyed world?
To play devil's' advocate, she does work at a legal firm. That is still a job that saves lives when done right.
@@LoliconSamalik Haha not really.
i have a mix thought about it though
like shang chi movie lead character ran away from being an assassin for his dad. he knew about his dad's power about ten rings. he avoided his past life to be a valet just to live simple life. one thing led to another and he had to seek his mother's tribe in forest
i can't make a judgement for she-hulk yet until the series is ended.
👌 I have been saying this from long time. So called feminist "shoving corporate feminism"
You nail it. I love the Hollywood elite who think no strong woman ever made a movie before. They clearly never watch Kathrine Hepburn, Mae West, Audrey Hepburn, or Lauren Bacall in a movie. There have been strong women characters in film throughout history. The difference is those characters were the result of talented writers who could flush out the characters strength not the hacks writing in Hollywood today.
“I’m an expert at controlling my anger”
Jen says, angrily.
😂
“I believe that everyone is entitle to their own opinion.
Just as long as it doesn’t contradict mine.”
RIGHT!!!!
Funny thing about that scene was, she talked that bullshit to Bruce fuckin Banner of all people. And then in every situation it would have benefitted her to control her anger, she throws a made for TV bitch fit. I watched it with my daughters, but my God this was a fucking double decker nothing burger. And the special sauce was made from liquid bullshit...
While being angry 😡
I miss when movies were plot-driven or character-driven instead of agenda-driven
oh most movies always have been but they did it subtly and entertainingly to make you agree more,
today its more like HEY FUCKING AGREE WITH ME written in the script 3000 times
@@thebluepaladin I mean, back then movies actually had plot and characters. I think that's what they meant
@@thebluepaladinMost movies are agenda-driven, when someone invests millions of dollars you bet they will say whatever that person wants!
porn has better plots these days
when was that. I think you are bullshiting. movies were always agenda driven
I've stumbled across your videos and I love them. Intelligent commentary about relavent subjects. This one in particular has burned my buttons for ages. For years I've argued that hollywood and marketing campaigns, specifically commercials, have turned men into ignorant dullards barely able to enhale and exhale with regular predictability, for the simple purposxe of making a woman look more intelligent or capable or simply better at whatever task, conversation, or purpose set before them.
It's an embarrassment for modern feminism, or what has been passed as feminism. You put it perfectly when you explained that women should be able to rise on their own merit and not be like the bad guys to be taken seriously. Bad lazy writing is not the answer.
Keep up the amazing dialogues. You rock!
Agree with you 500% !!!!!!
and as a mom of a 10 year old son it makes sad for the way men are being portrayed.
As a family we tend to watch movies from previous decades since they are far better in all aspects.
Woke and feminist Hollywood have ruined television and movies.
It’s like the Peppa Pig vs Bluey debate. Bluey is fantastic and loved around the world by parents and children as it represents both parents beautifully without putting the other down. If you haven’t seen Bluey as a kids cartoon-do!
As a woman what I find hilarious is that men have proven more capable of writing a strong female character more than these modern day female writers. All they do is insert their miserable lives into any and everything they “create.”
Spot on
The joke has it that in order to write believable female characters the male writer takes a man and removes all reason and accountability. 😉 Seriously though, we now have a generation of writers with no life experience other then what they have learned in college AND that they have to adhere to THE RULES. As in no woman can be mentored by a man, lose to a man, be weaker then a man, be outsmarted by a man. When you lack life experience and are constrained by such stupid rules, your character building will be horrible.
100%
Fun fact: one of the best comic book writers for decades was Chris Claremont, and he's best known for his legendary run on Uncanny X-Men, New Mutants, and lots of other stuff. He wrote truly unforgettable stories involving female heroes like Storm, Kitty 'Shadowcat' Pryde, Danielle Moonstar, Xi'an Coy Manh, Rhane Sinclair, Illyana Rasputin, Betsy Braddock...basically it's a DAMN long list! He knew how to give each of those ladies a distinctive voice, and I'm pretty sure his favorite was Kitty, who was basically your ordinary Jewish-American Midwestern girl next door who happened to have the power to phase through solid matter.
Dammit, I miss the days when female heroes were written by people who had imagination!
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 *Did you watch "as good as it gets 1997" with Helen Hunt and Jack Nicholson* 🤫
I miss when female characters weren't activists for non-existent issues
The last female protagonist that I saw on screen with actual genuine strengths and issues was the survivalist mother in A Quiet Place. She dared with her husband to have another child despite the dangers of roaming creatures attracted to noise. In her mind, all their measures for survival meant for nothing if they both cannot conceive and raise the next generation. That's far more ballsy than some woman simply one-punching a man.
I miss when female characters didn't have penises.
@@Zoloft77 yeah, Emily Blunt and John Krasinski both nailed their performances and gave a solid mother and father dynamic.
Damn lol
@@Ryan-mech-muffin Emily Blunt is awesome
I’m addition to the other great female leads mentioned, I would add that Jodie Foster was incredible in Silence of the Lambs and Contact. Rewatched these recently and I was really blown away at how really great she was.
And Flightplan and Panic Room.
She was great in Lambs.
Hopkins was awesome in that film too
Thank you for an excellent article, great to see a woman setting the record straight on issues that men are becoming increasingly uncomfortable about addressing, thanks to this insanity in Hollywood and Disney.
"Being gay and female doesn't fix terrible writing..."
Someone should tell the White House.
But that is the core tenet belief of the Left now. When we have full diversity and inclusion everything will become magically better. Just like when we have true communism. This time it will work! Also, now it's just diversity and inclusion in writing. What if they start pushing for diversity and inclusion in hiring airline pilots, or brain surgeons?
Rofl
It's so funny cause there are examples of good writing that includes gay people, and good writing that includes feminist themes. But MODERN HOLLYWOOD has no idea how to do it.
Oh…that was good. Lol. Nailed it! 😉❤️
Oh the press secretary doesn't type those notes she just reads them.
But yea she was hired based on the fact that she has a vagina, is black and gay.
So if I am those things can I get the job as press secretary for the white house too??
The problem actually IS that women don't have any strong female characters in movies anymore; instead they have perfect, infallible characters, that they cannot relate to. Characters whose only fault is that they have an ego-driven hatred of men, which they pretend is a redeeming quality
Well said
@@shilohbrutalis582 ty
If the character is perfect, why cheer for them?
@@weswolever7477 Yup good point, what are they overcoming...nothing
We don't have women characters, but women excelling at toxic masculinity
This makes total sense. As someone who fell out of love with Marvel and Doctor Who, I can completely relate to it.
i needed this video. i will be making the necessary adjustments to take control of my time again. thank you for making this and sharing!
Men: With great power, comes great responsibility.
Women: I have great power, now how can I abuse it for a better sex life and career while calling *_everyone else_* a narcissist instead of being selfless?
Go to the front of the class, you absolutely nailed it with that comment.
Of course they only see themselves as victims and won't accept that they're self absorbed
Indeed, they do not even see the irony of calling someone who acts selflessly a "narcissist", whilst acting selfishly i.e demonstrating "narcissistic" traits.
Truth is, these feminazis give their female *_"heroes"_* the traits we give our male *_villains._*
The men who are fucking these women really need to take a look at themselves.
you got that right
"Is there anything more depressing than dating in your 30s?"
Watching all your friends die. Having several near death experiences. Slowly dying of poison. Being turned into a weapon. Seeing your home get destroyed. Witnessing your brother getting strangled to death. Watching your husband sacrifice himself. Your family getting torn apart.
Having too many to choose from and they're all happy if you choose them all.
In a nutshell
Doctor who: your society is just early English aristocrats, you rin away from your home planet, your absolute best friend of all time becomes insane and hates you now, you commit genocide in order to save the universe, you are now alone in the universe, your female romantic interest gets trapped in another dimension, you have to wipe ur friends memory or she dies, you forced a woman to commit suicide because you became crazy with power, your own ppl trappes you in a torture chamber for 4.5 BILLION years... And the list keeps going and going
So, you're saying your currently dating? lol
there's nothing depressing about dating in your 30s., 40s, 50s etc. why is this an issue to some people? This is just petty. Just like some of these lame movie plots where the mc kept bombarding us with woke ideology.
Yes, the first Wonder Woman was awesome. What a shame what happened to it.
Such a shame it never got a sequel. Oh well.
@@Agentcoolguy1 Well about that...
@Karlach_ Yeah, that's the joke I was making, lol. The 2nd one was so bad, I refuse to acknowledge its existence lmao.
To be fair, the signs were already there at the end of the first film, which was great until the final fight with Ares, which was rubbish...
Why? What happened to it?
I didn't know there'd ever be a UA-cam video that I agreed with 100% on every single talking point. Thank you for this😂
Isn’t it hilariously ironic how in Hollywood’s relentless effort to destroy stereotypes, what they actually did was replace them with new stereotypes?
It's may be exciting to watch how real-life stereotypes be challenged. Watching some stereotypes fight other stereotypes is some kind of trash movie. Except in satire, it's a waste of time.
I wouldn't say they managed to replace them yet.
They have straight up made themselves look incompetent, as well as their attempted female leads.
If anything, they have alienated all but the small minded writers/directors/whatever that engage in "woke" ideology.
When the trailers just ooze cringe far before the release of a movie, I'd say the female leads haven't replaced shit.
Thank fuck for that.
Of course. There's a reason it's called show business. It's designed to make money. It's why they had such strict rules on what content movies & TV could have for decades, which have now been replaced with new patterns. It's why they lean left on most political issues and still make lots of movies about guns (which they euphemistically call "action movies" when they're really revenge fantasies) despite several studies showing they're a factor in mass shootings. Like social media, show business exists for only one reason, M O N E Y, as in "show me the." And like the gun manufacturers, none of them care about their markets except what they can get out of them.
It's like the "human colorwheel" form Community. Tried so hard to not be racist that "Trying hard not to be racist is the new racism" lol
@@QuesoGr7 Despite all its fame, the series is underrated)
Whenever a woman tells us how strong and empowered she is it sounds like she is trying to convince herself 😆
Well actually she is 😅
@@user-hq4bj8fy2b so it is funny for you to see an insecure women? sick mentality
@@overvault yes actually I love to see insecure women.
@@overvault it's hilarious
Women: I am more stronger because i have to deal with [ This ]
Me: * Tunes woman out and walks away *
EXCELLENT review and analisys of whats been going on!!!
Thanks for putting this out there.
Black WIdow and Alice from Resident Evil are good examples of strong female lead characters. They are loved by many (boys and girls). They don't shove any political agenda and these characters worked.
Exactly! But with the re4 remake changed Leon’s line, “Women..” with a sigh. 😂😂😂
Nononono! Satan Conor and Elen Ripley are those you seek!
Yah there was always female lead actresses ...who the fuck complained ..no one ...they are addressing problems that were never there and creating new ones in the process
Black Widow IS the political agenda. But because it's russophobic and non woke you're don't care. This character is very humiliating for russian women
Shout out to the fact that She Hulk bragged about being able to keep her emotions in check while getting cat called, after previously showing her lose her shit just 10 minutes earlier over getting cat called.
i dont even remember the guys saying anything that bad other than, "are you ok?" and such
Then setting her phone background as Captain Americas ass, while moaning about objectification.
@@Guardian582 this is true so it's even worse she can't keep her emotions in check at all in this case
She couldn't even keep her emotions in check while talking to Hulk about it.
tbf that's pretty inline with how women act, they say one thing yet do another
I feel like many strong female characters are just written as Gaston. Strong, arrogant, conpletely unaware of how they negatively impact those around them, condescending, petty and generally bullies. So they write female leads effectively as bland generic villians and wonder why people dont like the character
Nicely put👍
Literally all strong female characters now are is every trait they say is toxic masculinity but crammed into a body that has a vagina.
I find it even more funny that those characteristics are recognized as bullies on a female but regarded as charismatic in a man. "Strong, arrogant, unaware of the negative impact around them, condescending and petty". Pretty much described Ironman.
@Slla-th5vt literally the entire reason Tony stark became iron man was he realized the negative impact he was causing. And after that he was no less charismatic. You literally just took 4 character traits and a state of being then crammed them together and said this is another character trait. And you still managed to miss what charisma is. The most charismatic people either care about others or atleast make people think they do, if they came off as arrogant Condescending or petty they wouldn't be charismatic. But nice projection there bud.
@@Patson20 really. I didn't see Tony Stark being any more responsible until Civil War. But he is such a favourite since his first solo movie. Want to count how many movies until he grow some empathy and conscience?
Also, same thing with the Star Lord. Arrogant and condescending and petty. Yet audiences love his weepy daddy and girlfriend issues.
I normally just wait out the youtuber self adds but I have to say that it was one of the most entertaining ads I have ever seen. Getting a like but not a serf in your Scottish kingdom!
It's really so sad. And pathetic.
One of the most striking contradictions of feminism is how hard it criticise that so-called "toxic masculinity" and then go to the extreme to portray female action characters that have EXACTLY all those toxic traits they supposedly hate so much.
Kinda gives you a little peak inside their thought process though: Since they perceive men as dominating and irritatingly aggressive, and women to be the victims of it, the only way (in their mind) for a woman to NOT be a victim is by becoming one of the victimizers.
Its a really black and white world view, which is ironically promoted by people who want to be inclusive^^.
Spot on! 😁👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
It's not difficult to see that contradiction in neo-feminists: they loathe men yet want to be like them, or better to say, they'd love to have all of the so-called 'priveleges' men have...and they even go to the extreme of jumping at the chance to invite biological men who identify as women but clearly aren't (cough, Lia Thomas, cough) into the sisterhood. It's like they basically want to break the ideal of femininity.
@@random.3665 They SAY they're 'inclusive' when they're really selfish little children. That's basically all there is to it.
add to that that despite disliking toxically masculine men, they still aren't attracted to short nerds or artistic types.
Stan Lee: With great power comes great responsibility.
Jessica Gao: Nah, we aren't going to do that.
Wait, that's what uncle bean said.
@@alomaralsulaiman6501 uncle bean😭😭
@@alomaralsulaiman6501 im dead
more like:
Stan Lee: With great power comes great responsibility.
Jessica Gao: STOP MANSPLAINING
@@pressstart8738 no...but uncle ben is.
I love it. Emotions can be power when one knows how to handle and channel them.
Thank you. Just thank you. From the bottom of my heart, as someone who has been looking forward to seeing good live action versions of all these various characters, it's been hard to watch all this bad writing seemingly forced into existence ruining great stories that are getting their one shot to be done properly.
Couldn't have said it any better than what you've put together here.
My problem with these is that they go out of their way to make all men look creepy and with no redeeming qualities. Tearing others down to make yourself look good is the laziest way to promote yourself.
It's possible to be a strong woman without hating men.
Agree
Exactly! Why can't we have movies and shows where male and female characters actually respect each other?
@@joannaholden943 here my good sir/madam, you accidentally dropped your medal
They don’t, but ok.
Having 'free' powers instead of earning them the hard way, wanting priviledges without any sacrifice, irrational hatreds about superficial traits, treating everything that doesn't go their ways as micro-aggressions, doesn't take any responsabilities... That's the exact definition of a classic super-vilain... But they are actually role models. Crazy days huh.
They seriously give her the tag line, "Saving the world is for narcissists," and she refuses to be a superhero because she's pursuing narcissistic goals like dating and a career....
WELL DONE!
It's also funny how those lines end up implying that saving the world isn't important.
I would expect this level of cringe and overdrama from Indian TV serials, not from marvel who has produced like the most successful franchise of all time. Complete 💩
Its like the difference between capt marval and capt america. One is motivated by self sacrifice, the other is motivated by self validation.
Just the leftist modo, "hypocrisy"
@@nunyabisnass1141 And also, one is a man (good) and one is a woman (bad).
You're probably from the school of "Women should be seen and not heard".
Glad to see that more and more people are aware of what they watch.
Dang, you really got into that ad. Seeing you with the blue dye - woad, right? - on your face was hilarious.
“I’m great at controlling my anger”
*proceeds to get angry and emotional while describing how she’s great at controlling her anger*
No she is not better in controlling anger, She is better controlling Hulk.
Once Hulk is out, Bruce can't bind him @RedGeraniumWolf just like the scene you mentioned In Avengers, When Tony meet Bruce, Tony poke Bruce with something to check other guy comes out or not and this seen show how much he have control over his emotions.
She Hulk trolls all the trolls like you in this episode. "I'm a New York 10, and LA 11". LOL ahahahahahaha 🤣
That’s a womanchild in a night shell
@Dragongamer 7 You're not being serious??? I think you're misunderstanding the terms "troublesome" and "trivial".
I vote for a female hero who does hero things: struggles against difficulty, deals with losses and setbacks, learns and evolves, and who has the strength of character to do what needs to be done, while dealing with it all as a woman- which is NOT the same as a man. Men would find her intriguing, and women, hopefully, inspiring. I always felt that Sarah Connor's descent into near-madness and violent behavior was believable as her intent to protect her son at all costs, as a mother naturally would. The biceps were only a plus.
So like Buffy basically :P
I recall appreciating the 2015 Tomb Raider video game reboot for this reason. They had Lara Croft show some genuine vulnerability - self-doubt, father hunger, fear for her life, etc. I usually can't relate to female action characters because they're all like "Me Stronk Wahman!", but that depiction of Lara Croft was something to which I could relate.
No Fate
Well said man.
Watch prey. The new predator it's like anti woke, the lead female character couldn't even hunt animals but when she started putting herself and her brother and dog at the same level. Instead of rising above them she rose to their same level then once she realized it her and her dog tore the predator apart. The female had like 'woke' tendencies but when they dropped those values she exploded in capabilities.
I think most of these issues come down to "show, don't tell".
The fact that She-Hulk tells us "Men explaining my job to me pisses me off" is way less impactful than showing us a scene of that happening without anyone telling us "Look at this ! This is bad". The fact that they need to tell us either means they think we're stupid or it feels like on the nose social commentary.
Imagine the movie Wonder Woman not showing us her backstory, training and struggle and just showing her kicking ass with a throw away line like "I have centuries of training". That would be bad too.
i saw a video talking about how that's a problem in thor love and thunder as well, guess it's just consistent
I wonder how she feels about women explaining her job to her? Perhaps she should get better at the job instead of getting mad about being corrected.
Re: the 2017 Wonder Woman: When asked about making a "great female superhero movie" Director Patty Jenkins said something along the lines of "We didn't set out to make a great female superhero movie, we set out to make a great superhero movie where the lead happened to be female."
Shame about WW1984
I liked the movie and the story, but let's be honest, Gal Gadot was like in a photoshoot pose every second of the movie😑
@@kingp1n817 That's the least of my concerns honestly. I find it funny when I notice, but otherwise, it's really not a -_- fail lmao.
@@kingp1n817 Wonder Woman being super fine is cannon though? She's supposed to be the ultimate female,smart,hot,strong,etc. So I don't understand your complaint here,care to elaborate?
But 2nd movie undone all good that was done in first movie, i mean who wants fight naked cat lady who not even Catwoman, Steve why do you can't stay alive for 30 min - dying each time before sex scene... no happy end for love birds.
"Is there anything more depressing than dating in your 30's?"
Yeah, dating in your 40's.
Being in that show comes to mind.
Truth.
Yeah dating in your 50’s 😂
@@modernpoet808 dammit, I have a feeling I'll be doing that one too.
@@syberphish 🤣🤣
really good ty. you 100% right, i cant se any more anymore
You are 100% spot on!👍😉
Hulk:
- Experimented on as a child
- His father killed his mother
- Turned into a monster against his will
- Is a man
- Captured by the government
- Experimented on by the government
- Involuntarily killed lot's of people without wanting to
- Lived in hiding from the government for multiple years in a third-world country separated from his loved ones
- Love of his life died
- Unable to commit suicide because the monster within him prevents it
- Got stuck on an alien planet for years
- Got controlled by the monster within him while on that planet
- Pressured to save the world multiple times
the list goes on...
She-Hulk:
- Is a woman
- Gets catcalled by men
"I have so much more experience controlling my anger infinitely better than you!"
edit 3 :if you watched the show, you will see that she is ready to kill anyone for simple reasons... she almost killed some dudes that catcalled her or 'insulted her'...
Oh yeah, having men yell compliments at you (granted extremely perverted ones) definitely stacks up with hulks long often tragic backstory
The best part is that even while she says that she is obviously getting angry.
Controlling your emotions is way different from bottling them up.
And what happened before she was able to control her anger so well? where are the hundreds of dead construction workers she inadvertently killed and carries immense guilt because of if? oh wait, she's perfect, I forgot.
Sure She-Hulk you have bounds of experience I wish I could be as strong as you. #LMAO
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"My real plea is for men to have enough empathy to watch movies starring women."
I pay for and watch movies for my entertainment, not out of pity, nor will rich Hollywood people guilt trip me to do it.
What a sales pitch, really! "My product sucks, but please have empathy and buy it anyway."
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Exactly, the entitlement and illusion is astronomical with the Hollywood types in addition make women look feeble and insecure.
"I hate oppressive men like you, but if you don't want to be oppressive, watch my movie anyway." Does that rank as childish narcissism or maybe cognitive dissonance to send a message so brain damaged?
It's the ultimate no value provided feminist rant
They're not making movies for us, but for themselves and feel entitled to our money and attention anyway.
It’s kinda like what the Democrats are doing, I know you are seeing articles and movies everywhere putting down white straight men, but vote for us anyway please…
Great video, thanks for recording this.
how beautiful said! Gj on that! I do rly enjoy this analysis!
"I'm great at controlling my emotions"
Then you just defeated the purpose of the hulk. Sorry
Bingo!
@@SydneyWatson low key, I haven't seen She Hulk. Thank you for watching it for us 😂❤️
I've seen a lot of comments on other videos saying that she-hulk is only better at controlling it because she didn't get as much radiation as hulk did.
If she did, she would be going full rage monster; but I guess that would be bad for the agenda if you show a woman getting emotional and raging.
For me personally the two worst cringe Tv-shows ever: SHE-Hulk (script from whiney-KAREN-like-depressed writers who have a miserable life) and the female DrWHO (script from a person who actually never had spoken to a woman before)....the people who wrote these shitshows should be banned for life to do another script! No more brain diarrhea!
The biggest issue with the Mulan remake was that it completely missed the point of the original story. The thing that made Mulans story empowering was that she was just a normal woman that accompanied incredible things. If you make her a chosen one. That means she only accompanied those things because she is unique.
I like the first Disney Mulan. Despite it centering on prejudice, identity issues and status quo, it doesn't hammer us down with absolute morality and still manages to give us a strong lead character, one that feels earned and not by sacrificing what makes a good character and also without sacrificing the dominantly male side characters, for the most part, although I do appreciate how their problems with her mostly stems from her deceiving them and never discredited her for turning out to be a woman.
There's only one guy, but he's a jerk to everyone and an emperor bootlicker anyways
@@Handepsilon I loved the original Mulan movie. The remake kinda missed the point though.
@@azrik6084 everyone in my family loved it, especially my mom and my sis. They'd spend evenings singing Reflection and Mom even had it as a ringtone once upon a time. She was quite disappointed with the remake, saying that Mulan was too perfect there (I think).
@@Handepsilon and your free to enjoy whatever content you wish. That doesn't change what I said though.
@@azrik6084 Oh I meant the first Disney one, to clarify. There are only two versions of Mulan that I watched. The animated Disney one... and that version in Chinese that focuses more on the traumatic effects of war and death
Never watched the remake myself. Considering the direction the live action remakes are going, I honestly don't see myself going to. The Aladdin one is uh... ehm, kinda sorta decent I guess.
I agree 100 percent ,thanks for video.
I 100% agree with you. Why can't we have good female leads that aren't some form of feminist propaganda saying,"i can do anything better than any man, without any practice." This is why I hate the Star Wars Sequels; Rey can do everything without even trying, yet it took Luke his entire life to get to that point, and they also just destroyed Luke's character (probably to promote Rey I'm sure), he was far better in Legends.
I just want to take a moment to appreciate Scarlett Johanson and The Black Widow. Here is a character with real depth, whos abilities come from a lifetime of forced training, who has really messed up baggage, and who sacrifices herself in the end... played by a woman who actually said that her job was to act, not promote politics.
I always felt releasing Captain Marvel before the Black Widow movie was the end of Marvel for me... Pushing bullshit instead of giving one of their best characters a stand alone before they died on screen said everything I needed to know
its never good enough for those people though. I remember when her backstory/movie got fully announced, people started throwing a fit that this was "yet another woman whos backstory was sexual/emotional trauma" like she wasnt a trained killer and hadnt said so herself in the films... everythings a stereotype and nothings good enough for the people who constantly complain
Right, at least for most of the first phase of the MCU they stay true to the spirit of who Black widow is.
I think they kind of screwed up her legacy a bit with that extremely late movie of hers.
But I digress..
@@rainestar82 although I would not agree with those people's assessment...
It's completely UNDERSTANDABLE that at the time they thought it would turn out terrible and were shell-shocked from all the wokie political feminist push crap that came our way over the last decade
Who was then ruined in a prequel movie that forgot who her character was or what her powers and abilites were. Made her play second fiddle to an EVEN MOAR POWERFUL version of the same character. Played by a woman who went out and made a bunch of dense fucking political statements to promote said movie.
"The box office doesn't lie. Even if Screen Rants does."
This line alone made clicking the thumbs up worth it.
The only thing screen rant does well is pitch meetings and those are gone to
@@shawncollard623 Pitch Meeting is not gone. Ryan moved it to it's own channel.
Indeed
Winning comment
Thank you. This helped me understand some things much better.
Many great insights expressed succinctly. Some of which, without your commentary, I would have missed completely. Solid video.
George R R Martin always comes to mind in cases like these. An interviewer once asked him how he can write such well-developed and complex female characters, and he answered 'well, I tend to think of women as... well, people'
When characters are believable as people and they aren't just a cardboard cutout of an ideology then they work.
Great example.
I thought he might have replied with “I just think of a man, then take away reason and accountability.” Lol
Right? He has all manner of compelling, powerful female characters playing out, each with their own particular strengths and weaknesses. Some excel in soft power and 'feminine' spheres, some take on more stereotypically 'masculine' roles, but no matter what they each have an important place in the plot and are rather compelling for their own reasons. It irks me so MUCH when Hollywood decides women aren't allowed to have flaws.
@@kyucklebeansthat's a Jack quote from "as good as it gets"
@@glenmcdonald375 Nailed it
We don't need stronger women, we need stronger storytellers.
Oof
Yikes
You other commenters don't understand what Matthew is saying, do ya? He's that women are already strong, and that contemporary storytellers, regardless of gender, are sucking.
Unfortunately the gatekeepers won't allow better stories to be told. They're currently riding the woke wave, for fear of being "cancelled". Eventually, they'll lose so much money that they'll be forced back into making what people actually want to watch.
Agree🙌🏼
Also, thanks for the well put together video. I like your style!!! Its good and makes the video entertaining. Thanks again!
You hit the nail on the head!!
Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast. - Ron Burgundy.
It did didn’t it
Baxter ate a whole wheel of cheese.
@@andysalter7192
Crap went from 0 to 100 real quick.
I love lamp.
In the 1960s there was a British TV series called "The Avengers", starring a pair of secret agents. The man was Steed, who were a suit and bowler hat, and was the archetypical English gentleman. The other was Emma Peel, who could handle a gun like the best of them, and was certainly someone you'd want to have around when you were in a tight fix - but she was also very feminine. A woman doesn't have to be masculine to be "strong".
Diana Rigg! She designed a lot of her costumes as well. Absolutely classic and 100% feminine. I loved that show SO much!🙌
Emma Peel was Steed's 3rd partner. Cathy Gale, played by Honor Blackman, had been his second partner, and she was just as much of a badass and fashion icon as Emma was. I'm old :(
That's right! And it was remade into a movie in the late 90s with Uma Thurman & Ralph Fiennes!
especially not when guns are involved. Sure in hand to hand combat most women have a severe disadvantage to men but introducing weapons the playing field gets leveled. And certainly at the point where firearms (or "superpowers") are involved even children can become lethal.
There is only one thing better than a woman in a cat suit, two women in cat suits. meeeeoooowwww
Imagine our kids reading what stuff we were debating back in 2024. Can't imagine that being an akward conversation
This frames the issue very well. Nicely done.
it bugs me so much that Jen constantly has to say "I've had it worse" when Bruce was genuinely trying to help her and offer advice as somebody who has been through similar situations. but Jen has to stroke her ego constantly and be like yeh my genes are better and you men don't understand.
even the end credits are weird too. why do you have to rub it in our faces that Jen is "stronger than the dudes"? she can be strong without being compared to men. and frankly in the show, there aren't many assholes who are showing shit behaviors to Jen simply become she's a woman. This is just wokeass victim mentality that we do not need.
I may not be a psychologist, but I would assume someone who says stuff like "I have it worse" or anything else that devalues someone else experience (Even if put in a way that sounds like they aren't i.e. "It isn't like I am saying you are wrong, but.....") is known as a toxic person.
@@POIUYTREWQ62 you could also say that they're annoying to be around. toxic or not, nobody likes someone who constantly 'one-ups' everyone else. She-hulk's just not a likable character for any normal person, male or female.
Yeah, she was super toxic and rude 😭 Couldn’t watch it past first episode, and barely made it till the end
@@evgeniazotova959 feminst not good
She love Bad boy and bad guy
It is a natural outgrowth of applying THE RULES (ominous Critical Drinker voice) to writing Jen's character. And the rules, as formulated by the woke Roddenberry foundation, state when you write a female character no man can mentor a woman, no man can be stronger then a woman, no man can defeat a woman, no man can outsmart a woman, and another one I can't remember. Constrained by such rules that's how you get female characters like Jen. Or when you have a story where you have a male hero vs a female villain, you know she's going to defeat herself. (cough Dr. Strange 2, Star Wars Kenobi, cough). Woke story telling is horrible and predictable.
One of the things that really bothered me about the female Ghostbusters was that the male counter part to the secretary was wildly incompetent. Jenine from the original group was never incompetent. She was part of the team. Chris' character just made men look like baffoons.
And they learned that when you make a political battle out of it instead of incorporating it into your story, your product will fail. And then someone will come along a few years later and make a better version of your story, with a twelve year old girl that’s a stronger, more compelling female lead than all four of your leads combined.
Great point about the original Ghostbusters. She wasn’t a Pam Anderson type character, running around shaking her tetas. She an equal
As was the intention, and why the film bombed.
And objectively, the female Ghostbusters just was not funny. It was cringy
Yep the substitution also showed another problem with the movie on a comedy level. For a joke to work you often a straight man to bounce off weirdness. Jeanine and Winston both filled this role in the original movie.
So many languages and you decided to speak on BASED. Great video and i couldnt agree more
This was beautiful. Thank you
The insane irony we see when she talks about how incompetent men explain her areas of expertise while she incompetently explains Banner's area of expertise to him.
Exactly
You're so sensitive
Just my take on character development.
The point of a story is to show people an example of an imperfect human who manages to achieve a goal regardless of the inherent weaknesses of that human. Traditionally, this has been men in these rolls. So they are relatable to men who grow being told that they must achieve success in order to be considered a valuable contributor to society. Even though the story has the hero (in this case) taking on some Herculean challenge, men can relate to the man because we all have our own challenges in life and like the hero we have to improve ourselves in order to accomplish the task.
But the women being portrayed in these movies are self inserts of the female driven writing team. They are too focused on themselves. Their lives are full of conflict because they are angry about everything. Take She Hulk for example. She doesn't want to save the world. Wants nothing to do with it. Yet is angry that her position in life has her answering to men in her professional world. Her lack of responsibility keeps her from seeking positions of authority within a business. She wants the job title but not the responsibility.
@@ndo533, keep breathing copium 👀
@@superdave8248 not one word of that was factual. Have you even watched the show? Lmaoooo
Kill Bill was full of women who kick ass, but it also showed the main character the Bride getting beat at times like getting shot in face, getting almost killed by Gogo the teenage bodyguard , getting shot again then buried. She wasn't always the winner, she was weak at times, she was more human. I miss that type of strong female character.
Exactly. Her strongest trait was her perseverance. Her ability to get up when kicked down when most would just stay down. She doesn’t win because she’s some unstoppable force of nature. She wins because she doesn’t give up. THAT’S a lesson that everyone (not just women) can take away from those masterpieces.
The best male lead movies are like that to.
Funny how that works right
Yeah bro I miss it when women would just stay in the kitchen all day too.
Exactly I loved the Kill Bill series and the women in that were strong characters but they were not trying to shove some ideology down our throats and the movies were actually entertaining.
And they have the audacity to say that Men are so sexist we can't stand a strong female character🤦🏾♂️
And I wonder why we hate she hulk and it's awful writers... also you killed it and are 100% correct
Perfectly said. Now we just need to tell this to Hollywood 🤷🏻♂️🤣
You've nailed it. I'll never understand why success for Hollywood is a woman acting like a man while simultaneously disparaging a man who is acting feminine... There are too many layers of irony for me to even verbalize it properly.
You did a great job totally agree
😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂 Simply fantastic remark my friend!
While also acting like a man acting that way is systemically bad.. It's weird that it's empowering for a woman to be as toxic as a man...
Agreed...it's not just hypocrisy...it's tone deaf hypocrisy on their part.....
Who is getting disparaged? What man is getting disparaged? Please tell me?
It was such a heartbreaking moment when Banner said in Avengers "I know, I tried. I got low, didn't see an end. So I put a bullet in my mouth." It shows how much Bruce has struggled his whole life.
*FOR ASSISTANCE OFFER’S,*
You know Bruce has had it worse when Bruce wanted to commit suicide and Jen can “control” her motions.
And if you haven't seen it this scene plays with Norton's Hulk
Loving your channel! I absolutely agree with your point, but being a man I can't really bring this up or talk about it with anyone. Thank you for putting this perfectly in words.
Very well said. I am Gen X’er and some of the Best movies in the 80’s and 90’s had female leads and I enjoyed the hell out of them. You covered them very well. Alien’s and Terminator both exceptional films with female leads. As you stated well written. I would add Copycat !! Excellent movies with two female leads. Great movies that were written well with characters that felt genuine and relatable 👍🏻
Love how She-Hulk is proclaiming how well she holds in her anger while becoming exceedingly outwardly angry
That was the joke.
@@thebendu33 the whole damn thing was a joke
I love this episode She Hulk trolls all the trolls in this episode. 👍⭐😲
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 is...is that supposed to sting?
@@MrsShocoTaco No, it fact and also your so blind that the She Hulk has a lot of Male Actors and Characters. So don't push your believes on me.
"Arcane" is a great example of how to write, develop and portray a female character. I loved the series so much man.
And they did it without bashing the male characters
@@1gunnerShock 💯
Solid take. They didn't bitch about stuff. They just went through their struggles in different ways.
Agreed, instead of making strong women narcissistic, Caitlyn is both strong and very sweet to both Piltover and Zaun, and Vi, while toughened by going through hell, still has moments of kindness and vulnerability, where she can open up to others about herself.❤💙 Oil and water work well together!❤
The production team was French. If it were made in Hollywood it would’ve turned out a whole lot different.
I was already enjoying listening to her comments on the modern female led movies.. but "lesbian bella" was just so hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you, thank you, I really mean it. BTW, I love your slight accent.
I find it incredibly ironic that the only way these writers are able to write "strong female characters" is by...giving them toxic masculinity.
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Oh man I saw these trailers and couldnt believe what I was hearing/seeing. Every women lead character was so toxic and ironically in the exact way woke-Feminists characterise as "masculine".
It's like hollywood is doing an excessive parody on the exact ideology they have adopted.
And the most depressing thing is that so many leftists JUST EAT IT UP LIKE PUDDING.
Leftists should be the most offended by these movies, since they slander their ideology.
its the same in real life though lol I've met 1,000s of women over the past decade who mimic all the toxic behaviors of the men that hurt or abused them in some way in the past... this is the way of empowerment? To become like men?
"toxic masculinity"
Except WORSE
I (a woman) personally lean more towards male lead movies because they're usually better written, since they're focusing on an actual storyline than SJWness. I'm not even going to bother with She Hulk because Disney now days is incapable of puking out anything good anymore. The older stuff with female leads, as you said, were WAY better. I miss the good ol days when movies were written for good stories and not woke BS.
P.S Die Hard is the best Christmas movie ever.
Yep. Agreed. I’m done with all Marvell now as they’ve lost their way. Just nonsense nowadays and isn’t worth the cinema ticket.
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“Disney now days is incapable of puking out anything good anymore.”..... here here!
Agreed 😁👍👏👏👏
Disney is where good stories go to die. Big massive corporations cannot do good story telling even when they try. When managers take over creatives have to either learn to play the internal politics game or leave for better pastures.
First time on this channel and this girl is hella funny… very refreshing
God i fucking love this channel. It's best before and after the gym. Good motivation for lifting, great motivation to eat well with recovery in mind. Thank you Sydney!
There's one thing really bother me when it comes to "strong independent women" in Western media, they almost always involve over-competence, belittling men, or sexually irresponsible
That behaviour would basically make these writers hypocrites.
You _do_ realize that the entire concept of a "strong independent woman" is reality-denying garbage designed to subvert and destroy traditional society? Why in the world is a woman supposed to be independent? Because that means she doesn't want a husband or children.
These ideologies go all the way back to the atheist/nihilist communists of the 1800s. The history exists for anyone who wishes to find out what's going on and how we ended up here.
tang roro, I've met Women who bragged about being "independent". That is because there is a Man whom "Wonder Woman" can be a parasite/vampire off of.
Usually all 3
Western media always shows Independent women as someone who has the traits of a brash alpha insensitive male.
She-Hulk: "...when I'm cat-called in the street..."
Hulk: '... I put a gun in my mouth, and the green guy spat out the bullet..."
The true dichotomy of men and women. We deal with tough issues they cry about getting attention.
@@safersephiroth943 sounds like yours jealous. And you should be ☺️🤭
The thing about this scene is, since it’s scripted (duh) Hulk has to sit there and make compassionate faces instead of standing up and saying „what the actual fuck? Did you not like, listen to half of what i was saying?”
@@waverider6133 why would anyone be jealous of someone who is immature?
I stopped catcalling....
...the cat always ignored me
okay but wtf do we do now lol its been this way for so long now and they refuse to change anything even when we dont go see the movies im so confused
Amazing work
Feminist writers seem to love writing "toxic masculine" traits into their lead characters. Really makes you think.
*"Really makes you think."*
I hope it _does_ make people think. For those who already understand what so-called "feminism" actually is and always has been, it is not at all surprising.
it's almost like they are just a different side of the same coin