BMW M2 Competition vs Honda Civic Type R - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2019
  • THE FIRST IN A FULL TRACK SERIES! James and Thomas take the new 2019 BMW M2 Competition and pit it against the 2019 Honda Civic Type R in a full track test: Drag race, drifting, and lap times! Can the lightness of the Type R defeat the powerful but much heavier BMW? Let's find out!
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  • @oxpahnakompromatkohtpol436
    @oxpahnakompromatkohtpol436 4 роки тому +1399

    Just the fact that the Honda was paired with this serious BMW tells you loads about how competent the Honda is.

    • @klauserji
      @klauserji 4 роки тому +5

      @Fire Heart the weakest engine on f1. You know honda engines are jokes on f1 right ?

    • @tidaltidaltidal
      @tidaltidaltidal 4 роки тому +15

      @Fire Heart honda nsx is faster than any bmw
      Mclaren F1: hold my tea

    • @tidaltidaltidal
      @tidaltidaltidal 4 роки тому +10

      @Fire Heart no innovative engines from bmw? Bmw received most world awards from their engine.

    • @starpier
      @starpier 4 роки тому +53

      @@klauserji Honda MP4/4 with its RA168E V6 engine was a joke right. Just one of the most successfull F1 cars of all times.. You must live in a world where F1 history started after 2010s

    • @samymasta
      @samymasta 4 роки тому +5

      @@starpier No but we live in 2020 and Germans rule the game right now

  • @johnschotz1614
    @johnschotz1614 5 років тому +2602

    So the BMW is almost double the price And has almost 100 hp more And is 1 second faster......oké.....Good Job Honda!

    • @928_tyler
      @928_tyler 5 років тому +131

      You spoiled it for me u owe me a sub tbh

    • @johnschotz1614
      @johnschotz1614 5 років тому +2

      Ed Jack so even worse

    • @zetcelsiuss
      @zetcelsiuss 5 років тому +103

      give it a proper track and see the difference mate.

    • @928_tyler
      @928_tyler 5 років тому +7

      @@zetcelsiuss honestly

    • @koruki
      @koruki 5 років тому +169

      Do you know how long a second is in a lap?

  • @SilverandButters
    @SilverandButters 4 роки тому +989

    Nurburgring times:
    1) Honda Civic Type R: 7 minutes 43.8 Seconds
    2) BMW M2: 7 minutes 50 seconds

    • @ervinmb
      @ervinmb 4 роки тому +55

      Yes but not competition m2!

    • @anantbijolia8415
      @anantbijolia8415 4 роки тому +105

      @@ervinmb they literally said m2 comp. 0:37

    • @chantalslut
      @chantalslut 4 роки тому +61

      Hey! Now not throw in comparisons from a proper track with real times! I own a FK2, got a FK8 on order. These cars are absolutely mental. I wanted an M2 comp, but the price is double here which is just silly. And no....BMW quality is not better then Honda, though Honda quality is not what it used to be.

    • @totoro1605
      @totoro1605 4 роки тому +35

      @@anantbijolia8415 He's implying that the lap time was not the m2 competition. It was easy asf to distinguish, fuckin facepalm LMAO

    • @SilverandButters
      @SilverandButters 4 роки тому +31

      @@ervinmb The official lap time of BMW M test driver Jörg Weidinger in the M2 Competition was 7:50 minutes, so fairly close to the Sport Auto time.

  • @kacysao7383
    @kacysao7383 4 роки тому +575

    I'd take the type R and use the extra 30k for a used truck and boat to do some fishing on the weekends. 🤘

    • @lild3838
      @lild3838 3 роки тому +17

      Yooo that smart move
      Bravo!

    • @sadboymz4057
      @sadboymz4057 3 роки тому +5

      Hell yea

    • @bobbyg5904
      @bobbyg5904 3 роки тому +7

      I'd buy 2 type Rs

    • @lucasmilik7626
      @lucasmilik7626 3 роки тому +18

      Or use $600 to put a tune on it and watch it lap the Beemer

    • @Fpslaith
      @Fpslaith 3 роки тому +1

      @@lucasmilik7626 cause u cant tune a bmw

  • @jonathanacosta7509
    @jonathanacosta7509 5 років тому +2410

    Says a lot about the Type R that it's being compared to a car twice its price.

    • @ZEWCHOOB
      @ZEWCHOOB 5 років тому +138

      Hardly, the M2 isn't double the price, it's £10k less than double. An M240i is the same price and still demolishes the Type R in every way.

    • @setdecinmotion6719
      @setdecinmotion6719 5 років тому +206

      Keep in mind the Type R also has a lot more room for additional buildable aftermarket horsepower (some of these are already at well over 400 hp) and a whole crap load of suspension upgrades. And the reliable Honda nameplate to boot. Not so much for the Beemer. Very little support offered from the aftermarket, and as well from BMW itself.

    • @f181234
      @f181234 5 років тому +72

      Doctor Zaius BMW has tons of Aftermarket support

    • @pswmetalmonkey
      @pswmetalmonkey 5 років тому +91

      @@ZEWCHOOB where i live the BMtroublu is more than double the price.. and even if it wasnt and say was only 1/3 more its still not worth it over the CTR.. Honda all the way.

    • @ZEWCHOOB
      @ZEWCHOOB 5 років тому +95

      @@pswmetalmonkey An M2 is better than a Civic Type R in literally every single way. The Civic just looks fucking awful. And 300 BHP FWD, ooo wow, ho exciting! It's boring, ugly, and has a bad interior. Unless you're 14 and still into Hot Wheels I don't understand how anybody can be appealed by this car.

  • @vernonprice5986
    @vernonprice5986 5 років тому +239

    The One Punch Man sweatshirt is absolutely the star of this video.

    • @lilnicky131
      @lilnicky131 3 роки тому +3

      this comment should have soooo many more likes

    • @stevenhearnden66
      @stevenhearnden66 3 роки тому +1

      Yep, next time Tokyo Ghoul. 😂

  • @angnaangna7916
    @angnaangna7916 4 роки тому +81

    00:31 “HONDA CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
    00:37 “HONDA CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
    1:35 “THE TYPE AAAAHH”
    3:55 “IN THE CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
    4:45 “THE TYPE AAAAHH”

  • @TrayCaddyyy
    @TrayCaddyyy 4 роки тому +374

    That’s impressive how well the Honda is made.

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 роки тому +1

      Bob Ross Toyota Camry V6 are fast sleepers, 2007 camry V6 can tie with the type R.

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 роки тому

      Cristopher Reeves FWD does not suck, it is way more reliable than AWD!!

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 роки тому

      Bob Ross the 2007 camry V6 is even faster, it does 0-80 mph in just under 8 seconds!

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 роки тому

      Bob Ross 2020 does 0-100 in 13-14 seconds i believe, thing about the 2020 camry is TOO MUCH POWER, NO GRIP, I sometimes put my 2007 camry V6 on 93 octane and they can creep up on a Infiniti G37 and smoke V6 camaros and mustangs!

    • @gabrijelbrobosnjak5028
      @gabrijelbrobosnjak5028 3 роки тому

      Ye full of fake parts

  • @kanemnewton6153
    @kanemnewton6153 5 років тому +467

    Soichiro Honda once said “without racing, there would be no Honda”. Wise words from a wise man.

    • @samrit123in
      @samrit123in 5 років тому +50

      The only company that has dominated every major motorsport. F1 ( Marlboro McLaren Honda), MotoGP, Isle of Man TT, Paris Dakar.

    • @kanemnewton6153
      @kanemnewton6153 5 років тому +8

      Nothing but facts under this comment lol

    • @Charmer4856
      @Charmer4856 5 років тому +11

      Its all about the K baby! When it comes to Honda, the K is king. I got a all motor 320hp K20A2 in my 2001 Civic. People never suspect anything until my VTEC kicks in at 4500! #beastmode

    • @kanemnewton6153
      @kanemnewton6153 5 років тому +2

      DaReoCharmer I just have 09 Accord. It’s slow and big, but I’m always reving it up to redline lol

    • @Charmer4856
      @Charmer4856 5 років тому +3

      @@kanemnewton6153 If you have the one with the K24. You can be build that thing into a monster. Race cams is the last thing I can add but I dont think its needed. 320hp vs 360hp isnt gonna make a big difference for a daily driver. I already feel like its too fast for my lead foot #impulsive

  • @Matt-gn7uz
    @Matt-gn7uz 5 років тому +948

    That M2 is a beauty. The Type R is incredibly impressive for $37,000USD.

    • @bmorlok1
      @bmorlok1 5 років тому +96

      if only it could actually be purchased for that price

    • @wanglee21
      @wanglee21 5 років тому +52

      Impressive when its 100hp under. Not many cars can come even close with that difference

    • @anonypersona3189
      @anonypersona3189 5 років тому +38

      Yeah, The Type R is amazing for 4 dr / fwd vs BMW M2 2 dr/rwd sports car. Still... I'd save up for the M2.

    • @klpinfl127
      @klpinfl127 5 років тому +16

      @@bmorlok1 my local dealer has it listed for $55k

    • @Matt-gn7uz
      @Matt-gn7uz 5 років тому +24

      Attomsk my next door neighbor got one for $36,499 I saw the invoice.

  • @tamfamily1701
    @tamfamily1701 4 роки тому +209

    Unbelievable, the Type R has amazing tech!!!

  • @DreamWorkDrive
    @DreamWorkDrive 4 роки тому +151

    M2 Competition is great, but the 30k difference between them would make me pick the Type R...

    • @julioserna5659
      @julioserna5659 3 роки тому +23

      Not only the money my friend, the reliability is most important and the resale value

    • @kristians2704
      @kristians2704 3 роки тому

      @@julioserna5659 reliability def isn't the most important

    • @xoxoj
      @xoxoj 3 роки тому +23

      @@kristians2704 nah it is. You’ve no idea how annoying and fruatratit is to deal with dealerships and mechanics.

    • @christianyang196
      @christianyang196 2 роки тому +1

      @@xoxoj OMG man I totally agree with you.

    • @billybones2385
      @billybones2385 2 роки тому

      @@xoxoj The Type R has and will have a lot more reliability issues than the M2. This is not 1980s. The Japanese fell behind in reliability since the early 2000s.

  • @hamzamashal8335
    @hamzamashal8335 5 років тому +878

    that one punch man sweater is gang

    • @jamesengelsman9369
      @jamesengelsman9369 5 років тому +22

      one puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunch

    • @biggboysouth
      @biggboysouth 5 років тому +7

      Saitama would never be in a gang! He's a hero for fu... I mean a professional hero and people just choose to follow him!

    • @AshishKulkarni0506
      @AshishKulkarni0506 5 років тому +6

      @@biggboysouth ok nerd

    • @biggboysouth
      @biggboysouth 5 років тому +3

      @@AshishKulkarni0506 ok geek

    • @wanglee21
      @wanglee21 5 років тому

      Thats what I remember the most! hahah

  • @shngsam8777
    @shngsam8777 5 років тому +183

    both also very good cars
    and the few last cars we still can purchase in real manual gearbox

  • @gamefoorum
    @gamefoorum 4 роки тому +38

    4:57 *mercedes just pretending to be a wind turbine watching from afar when it comes to racing* 😄

  • @Kevin-ek1su
    @Kevin-ek1su 2 роки тому +23

    That Civic can still keep up with a car twice it’s price. Truly amazing

    • @arixramirez3701
      @arixramirez3701 2 роки тому +2

      I mean if we’re being honest main reason it’s so pricey is because of the name brand

    • @neewsay7979
      @neewsay7979 Рік тому

      No

    • @bcald08
      @bcald08 Рік тому

      Its not twice its price first off and m2 has WAY better interior

    • @hondaman8648
      @hondaman8648 Рік тому +2

      @Brendan Caldwell kinda picking straws aren't ya? 7k of from being twice the price, there ya happy? And also...fk8 interior is better and with better seats. Good day

    • @andycjin4955
      @andycjin4955 Рік тому

      where the fuck are yall getting "twice the price" Honda MSRP 37k M2C MSRP 57K

  • @masterdriveroftoyotazupr4164
    @masterdriveroftoyotazupr4164 5 років тому +696

    $30K Less
    2 More doors
    100Hp down
    Cheaper cost of ownership
    got beat by 1 sec. not bad at all.

    • @davecom3
      @davecom3 5 років тому +146

      2 extra cylinders
      Better chassis
      Rear wheel drive
      Better sounding
      Better looking
      Better resale value

    • @dufferego87
      @dufferego87 5 років тому +323

      David C lmao. An M car and better resale value should never go in a same sentence. That thing will be half its original price in 2 years.

    • @skylineownzful
      @skylineownzful 5 років тому +61

      @@dufferego87 and the honda will be 1/4 of its price. thats a stupid point. another fact is, that the overall build quality of the m2 is miles ahead of the honda

    • @dufferego87
      @dufferego87 5 років тому +165

      SkyOwnZ imagine believing that.an accord holds 2/3 of its original price 5 years later. 90 thousand dollar m5 cost 30 thousand in 4 years. Type r is still selling for the same if not more than the sticker price 2 years later. What build quality? Being an unreliable machine is a build quality? Not buying that. But I’ll give you that m2 looks far better than the type r tho. Especially in person.

    • @tomchang88
      @tomchang88 5 років тому +52

      @@skylineownzful 1/4 of it's price? Lol. Find me one and Ill go cash it out 2 years from now. EDIT* Forget 2 more years. I'll cash it out right now!

  • @anteperkovic111
    @anteperkovic111 5 років тому +130

    BMW have 2 cylinders and 100hp more, and I'm impressed with time of Honda.
    At nurburgring, honda made a record FWD car with a European model that has 14hp more.

    • @painkilerr
      @painkilerr 5 років тому +6

      Power output is the same. Power is calculated differently for the Civic in EU.EU's DIN method of measurement is slightly different from the US' SAE. Europe certifies using 98 RON (octane) fuel, where the US fuel for SAE net certification is 95 RON

    • @anteperkovic111
      @anteperkovic111 5 років тому +23

      @@painkilerr No, power output is not same. Its the same engine, just different software. Honda has reduced the power because the USA does not have high octane fuel available.
      The reason is very simple, Honda wants to have a reliable high performance engine.
      Well done Honda.

    • @painkilerr
      @painkilerr 5 років тому +2

      @@anteperkovic111 so then the European model doesnt have more power but better fuel. The engine is the same

    • @anteperkovic111
      @anteperkovic111 5 років тому +3

      @@painkilerr The europen model engine is tuned to 98 octane. ECU map is different and power is different.
      Listen in the 15:20min:
      ua-cam.com/video/dibClbd-Tx0/v-deo.html

    • @painkilerr
      @painkilerr 5 років тому +8

      @@anteperkovic111 not sure if English is your second language but I did watch part of the video. When the guy asked : so what is the difference, reply : Fuel. You just my proved point for me.

  • @toddgrant6103
    @toddgrant6103 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent testing as always! Great job!

  • @DS-pk4eh
    @DS-pk4eh 4 роки тому +1

    Just love these videos. Thank you guys a lot. Keep up the great work.

  • @John-ip7qo
    @John-ip7qo 5 років тому +140

    Lol! The humor is seamless with you guys. Great driving! Looking forward to the track day videos.

  • @laynedingman9707
    @laynedingman9707 5 років тому +9

    No bullshit; the chemistry you guys are developing is like the good old days of Top Gear. This is comfortably the funniest car review channel on UA-cam, and I had to pause the video after the stop watch gag because I was laughing too hard to keep listening. I also love the very different priorities and perspectives while reviewing and comparing cars as well. Truly one of the best car channels out there.

  • @Jefuri_Naiza
    @Jefuri_Naiza 4 роки тому +310

    Dont forget the honda reliability

    • @ayayoutuber
      @ayayoutuber 4 роки тому +31

      3 times the life of a BMW and half the price. 1 sec difference per loop...but drifting around you will need extra time to change tires in a race.

    • @lovelyxyz
      @lovelyxyz 4 роки тому +3

      the biggest point of failure on the m2c is definitely the turbos haha

    • @TURE1215
      @TURE1215 4 роки тому +20

      German engineering cant be compared to Japanaise engineering

    • @TheDalitis8
      @TheDalitis8 3 роки тому +40

      In an ideal world, the BMW M2C is better than the Honda Type R, but in the real world (price, reliability, real-world performance) there is no comparison. Scotty Kilmer is right, the Honda Civic Typer R is probably the best car ever made.

    • @partyjerk
      @partyjerk 3 роки тому +10

      @@TURE1215 Yeah, because german engineering isn't what it was in the 80's or 90's. For the last decade it's just garbage right off the warranty.

  • @syedrizwan273
    @syedrizwan273 4 роки тому +44

    Need type R soon but first I need the money lmao

  • @motorhead16
    @motorhead16 5 років тому +113

    For a long time i wanted to see a race between a TypeR and a BMW M2. Thanks!

    • @Charmer4856
      @Charmer4856 5 років тому

      3500 was a decent launch point but I launch mine at 3200. 8600 redline with my K20A2 spewing 320hp

    • @XMyouth
      @XMyouth 5 років тому +4

      I want people to go back and realize the air conditioning was on in the type r during the hot laps. In a 2 liter engine, that is going to make a difference.

    • @neds3685
      @neds3685 4 роки тому

      @@XMyouth when does it mention the AC being on in the civic?

    • @neds3685
      @neds3685 4 роки тому

      To sum it up - pay an extra 30k for the BMW, and get an extra 1s lead

    • @kristians2704
      @kristians2704 3 роки тому +2

      @@neds3685 the M2 is a RWD sports car and the Type R is a FWD hatchback. Also 1 sec is quite a lot on a track

  • @mikenormandy9250
    @mikenormandy9250 5 років тому +15

    oh man, two of my dream cars! in ONE VIDEO?! Thanks TH!

  • @chaseadams8018
    @chaseadams8018 4 роки тому +106

    Been thinking of selling my 15 Sti for a civic type r, living in AZ the awd is pointless for me.

    • @MsBigtom
      @MsBigtom 4 роки тому +14

      I drove the STI and I have the Civic. The Civic is much more refined. The STI is like a truck. Smooth roads=Civic. Rough roads=STI.

    • @bullracing1
      @bullracing1 3 роки тому +1

      Add a few more bucks and buy the Acura TLX Type S AWD.

    • @alexlopez2995
      @alexlopez2995 3 роки тому +6

      I live in FL and got rid of my S2000 for a 19 Type R. I have made a lot of mistakes in my life but trading in my second s2000 for the Type R is not one of them. I fucking love this car so much. I could talk your ear off for hours about it but it be brief, it's a phenomenal car. My brother has a 17 STi and while its definitely quick, I don't feel like it's fast. It's a fast car that feels slow... The Type R is a fast car that feels fast.

    • @henrybrar
      @henrybrar 3 роки тому +2

      @@bullracing1 No 6-Speed

    • @nozopoke1782
      @nozopoke1782 3 роки тому +1

      I’m thinking of selliNg my manual mustang gt 2019 for a type r... not sure if I should

  • @StandingUpForBetter
    @StandingUpForBetter 2 роки тому +18

    Both of these cars are already legends especially with their 6 speed manuals. I only see their values increasing in the wake of the all electric future. Again, well done!

    • @S54VR6
      @S54VR6 2 місяці тому

      there is no electric future. literally defies physics. governments have convinced the public to invest in that garbage but it will never happen. fully electric cars will be an alternative vehicle just like diesels and hybrids.

  • @brixtonmack10
    @brixtonmack10 5 років тому +14

    This is quickly becoming my favourite car channel. Bell on and everything

  • @PeakPerformanceReviews
    @PeakPerformanceReviews 5 років тому +26

    Two of my favourite cars of the moment, driven both and there both outstanding, can’t believe how close the CTR is considering the cost difference, I think with a basic tune the CTR would close the gap and they’d then be about the same .... which is ridiculous.
    Two of the best cars I’ve ever driven funny enough and so glad you did a direct comparison

  • @s7ai
    @s7ai 5 років тому +1

    Great video guys! You nailed it with this one. At eye level with Top Gear and the likes

  • @Lucas-ie2ti
    @Lucas-ie2ti 2 роки тому +2

    watching Thomas bounce up and down out of excitement at their OWN track is just wholesome :) True enthusiasts. you guys deserve it

  • @vlads2874
    @vlads2874 5 років тому +3

    You guys are fun. My new favorite car review channel. No joke! More videos please!

  • @sttng3.3r_68
    @sttng3.3r_68 5 років тому +3

    That was amazing! You guys are the best!

  • @PR1NCETD0T
    @PR1NCETD0T 4 роки тому +138

    The Type R is faster on a track, its been proven on the nurburgring, it beat the M2 by a good 6.2 seconds. 7:43.8 over 7:50.

    • @grzegorzsynkracja426
      @grzegorzsynkracja426 3 роки тому +1

      true:D .... Skoll:D Proost:D

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 3 роки тому +5

      It depends on the track. If theres long straights, I'm sure the M2 would be faster, but something technical like the Nurburgring, the type R's downforce would make it faster

    • @PR1NCETD0T
      @PR1NCETD0T 3 роки тому +2

      Ciello ___ lol its not just the M2, its beaten other cars with a lot more power than the M2 as well.

    • @LordHolley
      @LordHolley 3 роки тому +3

      @@ciello___8307 Have you looked at the Nurburgring before? It has a lot of very long straits and most of the turns are high speed.

    • @mistamaog
      @mistamaog 3 роки тому +1

      @Boss ` Every car on the Nurburgring needs a few mods for safety reasons.

  • @antonnugroho3724
    @antonnugroho3724 4 роки тому +33

    I love Honda Civic Type R !!!

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 5 років тому +492

    We need M2 vs Supra!

    • @DeeJayAdverb
      @DeeJayAdverb 5 років тому +21

      right!? I currently have a 2016 M4 and I am reeeeeaaaally thinking about a Supra once they release a hot version.

    • @pr0jectSkyneT
      @pr0jectSkyneT 5 років тому +9

      Add a Cayman S on there too

    • @316328597
      @316328597 5 років тому +4

      its same car

    • @pr0jectSkyneT
      @pr0jectSkyneT 5 років тому +17

      @@316328597 the Supra share components with the BMW Z4 M40i not the M2.

    • @tng6628
      @tng6628 5 років тому +11

      @@DeeJayAdverb I wouldn't go from S55 to B58. S55 has much more potential.

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 5 років тому +109

    I am happy to see the Civic Type R while I am also happy to see the M2 in a manual transmission a real BMW

    • @Newzchspy
      @Newzchspy 5 років тому +1

      BASITH PH so, any car made in auto is NOT real??

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 5 років тому +17

      Newzchspy automatic cars are soulless.

    • @NaijaBull
      @NaijaBull 5 років тому +8

      Newzchspy yes

    • @basithph8958
      @basithph8958 5 років тому +5

      Newzchspy BMW is meant to be best driving machine and BMW with manual transmission is real driving machine
      The auto is good but the experience doesn’t compare to the manual

    • @TheMidnightNarwhal
      @TheMidnightNarwhal 5 років тому +2

      @@basithph8958 Yeah it's great BMW still makes brand new BMW M2s and M3/M4 with manual transmission options.

  • @TheTheShizzler
    @TheTheShizzler 2 роки тому

    Oh my gosh.. going back and watching these older videos, I didn't know this was the first track race.. that's awesome

  • @Maelstrom8
    @Maelstrom8 3 роки тому +3

    Got my like just for James' shirt! Great video! Love the Type R.

  • @petechar2261
    @petechar2261 5 років тому +7

    Great video, you express your car passion quite well..that what it all about

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 5 років тому +8

    Thank you guys for doing manual vs manul. You would be surprised how many times these are done imporperly. Great job! Thomas drifitng the M2 was Chris Harris good. Loved it

  • @marktodd4479
    @marktodd4479 4 роки тому +1

    now THAT"S how you do the graphics for running laps! great video guys.

  • @jaimehernandez2377
    @jaimehernandez2377 2 роки тому +4

    You save 20k by buying a type R. Use that 20k on upgrades and for the same price you have a way faster car with a lot more power

  • @DaveyBee25
    @DaveyBee25 5 років тому +144

    This channel supplying the goods 24/7

  • @Anashere_Narrnda
    @Anashere_Narrnda 5 років тому +244

    Considering how much the M2 have more hp and much more expensive and the difference is just 1 sec
    For me the type r is the real winner

    • @exiledrabbit
      @exiledrabbit 5 років тому +26

      The only loser in my opinion is the person who has to be seen driving the type R, it just looks absurd

    • @cr2nr
      @cr2nr 5 років тому +1

      True...and to be more even. Should got a reflash hondata typer . . . That! Would be interesting.

    • @cr2nr
      @cr2nr 5 років тому +21

      @@exiledrabbit for you... That car to me is beautiful

    • @exiledrabbit
      @exiledrabbit 5 років тому +7

      @@cr2nr I'm sorry to hear that

    • @davevil8750
      @davevil8750 5 років тому +19

      @@exiledrabbit The car is amazing looking, its probably just too much car for you. :)

  • @kenwong6536
    @kenwong6536 4 роки тому +26

    Love the Type-R

  • @nachtfuchs321
    @nachtfuchs321 4 роки тому +2

    This was the first video I saw from you. You guys are really entertaining and work dreat together 😎👍
    Great track-battle, fun to watch!
    I think these two cars are quite comparable in terms of track performance. So I really like, that you just did that regardless what one could think of the comparison. The web is full of comparisons between M2, M4, C63, RS4 and so on. This one was really interesting 👍
    I really would like to hear a little more of the impressions you've got regarding to the steering, brakes, how likely it turns in etc. Especially the things each of the cars does quite better than the other one.
    Besides I really like to have a comparison with a Renault Megane RS, but that's just a personal thing 😄
    Keep doing, great work!
    😎💪

  • @janakranchod
    @janakranchod 5 років тому +22

    Just one recommendation - maybe include/do a rolling race instead a drag race, that way it takes driver/launching error out of the equation. Great comparison and really good video and info as always.

    • @soulsnatcher5408
      @soulsnatcher5408 5 років тому +1

      Even at a roll the Type-R would be smoked.

  • @DeeJayAdverb
    @DeeJayAdverb 5 років тому +5

    Tom......amazing driving man. You're really making me want to do go the track in my f82....Amazing video guys!!!

  • @amac8487
    @amac8487 5 років тому +2

    Great video! Would never have thought civics were so capable thanks for the insight!

  • @Zeus-kj7nn
    @Zeus-kj7nn 4 роки тому +2

    Impressive powerslide in M2. You two know how to get the power down. Great review. Informative. And just nice. 👍.
    Subscribed.

  • @pqcpqcpqc
    @pqcpqcpqc 5 років тому +3

    This is brilliant! Keep it up guys :)

  • @WhiteGoldSynesthesia
    @WhiteGoldSynesthesia 5 років тому +64

    Hot damn, that Thomas is a pro

  • @raymondlam8453
    @raymondlam8453 4 роки тому +2

    Keep doing your great videos I love it!! And I can't hide that I love the M2 soooo much because of you guys! I hope I'll get one someday!

  • @sameralam1549
    @sameralam1549 4 роки тому +16

    The type is really impressive, let’s just make sure A/C is turned off in both vehicles 💯 thanks for the video 👍🏻

  • @trevormontague803
    @trevormontague803 5 років тому +6

    glad to see you guys back at the track, I really enjoy your track content. What track was this filmed at?

  • @dganaz
    @dganaz 5 років тому +3

    Great job guys! Loved the review and track match of both cars! Definitely subscribing to your channel!

  • @geraldchingambu8907
    @geraldchingambu8907 3 роки тому

    Awesome track review guys. Shout out to James I love your woody♥️😊

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 4 роки тому

    such a ballin video!

  • @pappyodanial
    @pappyodanial 5 років тому +322

    Nice M2 3rd gear power slide. A lot of reviewers don't have the balls (or skill) for that.

    • @stephenmac23
      @stephenmac23 5 років тому +8

      *cough* matt farrah *cough*

    • @remilasoste9472
      @remilasoste9472 5 років тому +14

      EXCEPT FOR CHRIS HARRIS

    • @Hakuna_My_Tatas
      @Hakuna_My_Tatas 5 років тому +4

      A lot of folks who buys such car cant even bring out the cars full potential. Money cant buy you skill

    • @noth606
      @noth606 5 років тому +1

      Vinskikauski Amourelius You seem to forget that's not what 98% of car buyers aim to or wish to do either, they buy a car because they like it and drive it like normal people on the road. And that's a good thing.

    • @Hakuna_My_Tatas
      @Hakuna_My_Tatas 5 років тому +1

      noth606 true, not everyone buys cars/motorcyles to be the next Rossi aiming to break records. Some have the financial freedom to buy nice expensive sport cars, and some are true enthusiasts who appreciate what the machine can do. Not to say lack of skill buyers dont appreciate it, they are just limited by lack of trust i what it can do or just scared in general of crashing their precious trophy car. With that said, my statement was intended for those that buys expensive sport cars and think they are the shit. Plenty of vids here to exemplify that btw. Crashing expensive and often collectible vehicles due to lack of sense and skill. But hey, this is Murica!!!! SEND IT!!!!

  • @juanarielreyes
    @juanarielreyes 5 років тому +102

    In nurburgring the bmw M2 make 7:52:36 with 6 cylinder and twin turbo. the Honda Type R make 7:43:80 with only 4 cylinder and one turbo obviously. the numbers says Typer R is better car.

    • @saucegodnas7318
      @saucegodnas7318 5 років тому +6

      Weight is killer.

    • @nenadratic6319
      @nenadratic6319 5 років тому +6

      Imagine if something is wrong with BMW . In USA if you come to the BMW diler and say :" good mourning , I do have a problems with my car .............." and you are not protected with waranty it will cost you 1000$ at list , and than will see how many $$$$$$$$ will bi after that . Honda engine is very close to perfect and all you have to do is regular maintenance ( oil, filters) and be vary patient after you start engine , never go with high RPM at cold engine. Once you warm up engine , you can not do nothing to this.
      My exp with two Hondas ( Civic's , for 20 yrs ) , about 500000+ miles ( 800000 km + ) , did not have one single problem . Regular maintenance and , run , run , run ............. The best engines ever made .
      About 10 yrs ago my good friend sad something like that :" Imagine if you will put Honda engine in BMW body , it will run for next 50 yrs without problems " . Very possible . I personaly think that BMW makes the best bodies , and Honda has the best engines .
      But , than what car mechanics will do than . Just change oil, tires , brakes and filters . No more fun with mechanics .
      But if you compare price and what you get for your money , than Honda is a far ahead BMW .

    • @iseeq72
      @iseeq72 5 років тому +13

      forget that times... pick 2 cars freshly bought and completely STOCK... and the M2 beats that ugly pot by far on Nurburg...

    • @Chirock-dr5gx
      @Chirock-dr5gx 5 років тому +18

      @@iseeq72 those r fresh bought stock times on the nurburg conducted by official trials dimwit.

    • @dzionisis
      @dzionisis 5 років тому +9

      So because the Type R can go around a lap faster it automatically makes it a better car ? The Honda is a little shit box compared to a Bmw

  • @BMWKelle
    @BMWKelle 4 роки тому +1

    This is a nice video with much emotions.

  • @Pr0digy47
    @Pr0digy47 3 роки тому +1

    Man they have my dream job. Love their content

  • @bumpinjeep
    @bumpinjeep 5 років тому +9

    As a 2020 M2C owner, this started to make me sweat lol. Great content, keep it up!

  • @princesiraj1
    @princesiraj1 5 років тому +5

    "If you live somewhere it snows, you're probably as salty as we are... about rust on our cars." XD James and his jokes

  • @alecddaniels
    @alecddaniels 2 роки тому

    The amount of fun Thomas has in the bmw is so funny and cool to see. And now he owns one! Congrats on how far you have come.

  • @conspiracykill
    @conspiracykill 4 роки тому

    Reminds me of home when Thomas says "about" Thomas say " figure it out" next! Lol

  • @x3Ryosukeee
    @x3Ryosukeee 5 років тому +26

    What I love about the Type R, is that you save 30k on the M2C, spent another 10k - 15k on the chassis and engine and I'm sure the Type R will blow the M2C away on the track.
    Great review lads. Subscribed.

    • @bamphmx-5548
      @bamphmx-5548 5 років тому +11

      But then you still have a 4 banger ricer car with fwd. The M2 has rwd and a very good inline 6. If you spent 20k on the M2c you can blow Ferraris.

    • @x3Ryosukeee
      @x3Ryosukeee 5 років тому +13

      @@bamphmx-5548 I mean, firstly that's your own opinion regarding the In-line 4 vs. In-line 6. Yes it would be nice to have a RWD car with more power. But my point was that the Type R is a much better track car for value of money. Like I said, the Type R is 30k CHEAPER than the M2, and only has 0.9s difference on the track. All I care about is track times in this case. And the Type R is so much better than the M2 because I don't have to spend as much money for the same/more performance.
      Of course you could spend an extra 20k on the M2 and destroy Ferrari's/Porsche's whatever. But that amounts to TWO Type R's. I ain't rich, the Type R is already out of my budget so this is all "realistic hypothetical"

    • @nlouisf
      @nlouisf 5 років тому +1

      Lol gve the respect where it's due the m2 the better car bro

    • @clutchfreak13
      @clutchfreak13 5 років тому +17

      @@nlouisf its 70k car. Let that sink in , 70! For 70k it shoud be better but it's only 0.9 sec better for almost double the price, so in the end. CTR is MUCH better car!

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 5 років тому +11

      BAMPh MX-5 the thing is it’s not a ricer. Calling a the type r a ricer is something an actual ricer would do.

  • @rajat_shama
    @rajat_shama 5 років тому +3

    First time viewer.. and I'm already loving this channel ✌️✌️ FYI I'm also a car youtuber 😁

  • @largote
    @largote 5 років тому

    What is the name of the app you use for tracking cornering and straight-line speeds on the track?

  • @Marineavp
    @Marineavp 4 роки тому +15

    450 vs 320 cv, a second is not great diference(and not mention price)

  • @jeremytd7072
    @jeremytd7072 5 років тому +3

    What an awesome video. I may have watched the whole thing with a big ol’ shit eating grin. I love when you guys compare cars that most others wouldn’t.

  • @Fitforacting
    @Fitforacting 5 років тому +24

    I’ll take the Type R and invest the difference. Great video guys 🤙

    • @johnd9357
      @johnd9357 5 років тому +3

      That’s what I did. It’s a monster on track. Turned mine into a time attack car and it is highly competitive.

    • @JacesOwnWorld
      @JacesOwnWorld 5 років тому +1

      I’ll take a LS swapped Geo Metro, and invest the difference of the CTR lol

    • @johnd9357
      @johnd9357 5 років тому +1

      Jace MK7 that would be baller as fuck honestly.

    • @Fitforacting
      @Fitforacting 5 років тому +1

      Jace MK7 that would be a wild sleeper but would it fit??

    • @Fitforacting
      @Fitforacting 5 років тому +1

      John D What have you done your CTR? Any regrets on something you put on it or didn’t put on (At purchase or aftermarket)
      Also how is your performance against Evos. I’ve heard the CTR beats it stock to stock.
      Lastly what do you think about Honda making an all wheel drive CTR in the future? What would it take for you to switch cars?

  • @Tino2o9
    @Tino2o9 3 роки тому +25

    While the M2 is priced higher, it has a more premium and refined look. I know the intent of the type r was to be aggressive/functional with the wing etc... but it screams racer boy to me

    • @djhh83
      @djhh83 3 роки тому

      WeLl but THE CiVic is AlMoSt as FAsT

    • @djhh83
      @djhh83 3 роки тому +6

      People don't get this, they don't get that the bmws are actually comfortable, luxurious and good looking

    • @timmang7891
      @timmang7891 3 роки тому

      It's the Japanese design language in recent years.

    • @TheDrvenisovac
      @TheDrvenisovac 3 роки тому +2

      It may be comfortable, i wouldn't know; luxurious, yeah, might be; but goddamn, that M2 dashboard looks like it's been stolen from 2005. Rest of the cockpit followed suit, with tablet-style infotainment screen already looking dated.

    • @marcusrodriguez845
      @marcusrodriguez845 3 роки тому

      Eduard Teglenenco the type r has a better Nurburgring time for half the price, that’s pretty sad buddy

  • @mahdisharegh7220
    @mahdisharegh7220 5 років тому

    Awesome video

  • @K20Elite23
    @K20Elite23 5 років тому +18

    Awesome vid guys! Was pulling for the Type R as well lol

  • @ljpr360
    @ljpr360 5 років тому +4

    What a great comparison video. Well done!
    For the price gap and ease of working on a Honda, I feel the Type R is the winner of this comparison.

  • @renesolis2169
    @renesolis2169 4 роки тому

    Awesome shirt bro!!! Love that M2 though

  • @XMG3
    @XMG3 3 роки тому +40

    I'm a BMW loyalist and I love the Type R lol, seriously considering trading in my BMW F32 for the type R...

    • @ChoPi-Eww
      @ChoPi-Eww 3 роки тому

      Ditto

    • @dazednconfusedrn
      @dazednconfusedrn 3 роки тому +1

      I recommend it! My parents owned a Honda that was 20 years old, had 350k kilometres and was never in the shop (during the few years and 200k kilometres they out in it) totaling 550k kilometres!

    • @dazednconfusedrn
      @dazednconfusedrn 3 роки тому

      @Boss ` they aren’t number one but still the top three in the world lmao (according to other car mags like Motortrend and a friend I know that works in a mechanic shop) my mechanic friend says they are 100000 x better than any American vehicle you can get...

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam 5 років тому +197

    Are we really in a reality where a BMW M can barely compete with a Civic?... 🤣

    • @XMyouth
      @XMyouth 5 років тому +14

      Yeah...qmd the type r air con was on during the track test. Not a fare assessment.

    • @gregblack8550
      @gregblack8550 4 роки тому +10

      A regular m would be almost dead even with a civic. Oh thank God in heaven we live nowdays.

    • @gregblack8550
      @gregblack8550 4 роки тому +25

      We are at a time when buying premium brands is not really worth it. Look at the Kia stinger and the genesis brand. Even the stuff like Acura -Infinity and the like are not that much better than lower priced cars. We thought we wanted a60k red sport Infinity. We test drove and were so unimpressed. Look at interior of a Mazda CX-9 compared to a bmw. There is not 20 k dif and does not drive much better if at all . I think that manufacturing techniques are so close nowdays that the brands are becoming irrelevant.Not sure if this holds water for the American brands but my wife’s n2015 sho went 160 k with no promblems and was a nice car.

    • @MalishinaRezidencija
      @MalishinaRezidencija 4 роки тому +15

      BMW is better😃😉

    • @solraczetined5951
      @solraczetined5951 4 роки тому +30

      @@MalishinaRezidencija better at leaking alot of engine oil after the 30k miles

  • @aconfusedazn
    @aconfusedazn 5 років тому +20

    I didn’t know that Thomas was that good of a driver!

    • @tommiko8313
      @tommiko8313 3 роки тому

      He wanted the BMW to win so drove ragged to mske sure it beat the type r as he knew he didnlt put that much effort when he set the time on the CTR. You can see he wasn't really trying on the CTR. IF they were hinest they;d do three runs on each aach and really drive to the potential of ezch ca for this track, pretty sure the CTR would have won..

    • @m3competitionracer788
      @m3competitionracer788 3 роки тому

      @@tommiko8313 the Civic Type R is Nice and Iam thinking about buying one, because they are fun and quite cheap here in Germany and exotic......till now I only owned BMWs and I know the M2 C and Iam sure the Type R can’t beat it, the M2 is a track weapon and got 100 hp more

  • @itsallrobbish
    @itsallrobbish 4 роки тому +3

    Both superb, I’d love them both. For my pocket, though it’d have to be the Honda. Apart from the fact that it is ūber practical and reliable on top of its legendary pace, I think it’s gonna be a collectors car, eventually. I’d love the Beemer as a wee plaything, though. Another great video guys. Just love the Canadian pronunciation of any word with ou, in it!

  • @ryanbravo5343
    @ryanbravo5343 4 роки тому

    That bored saitama's face though🤣. Good head to head comparison🤙

  • @lifenz1
    @lifenz1 5 років тому +239

    Who else here love the type r 😃

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch 4 роки тому +6

      Love it and own one too. My nicest car ever

    • @irzaidm292
      @irzaidm292 4 роки тому

      I ❤️ that car, Gundam Car(Type R FK8)

    • @codefk8711
      @codefk8711 4 роки тому +1

      Love it so much that I own one lol

    • @cybercityoedo808
      @cybercityoedo808 4 роки тому +3

      I got a Championship White FK8, it handles even better than my STI.

    • @seansurfn2
      @seansurfn2 4 роки тому

      @Akemi SAIFULL looks ugly af.. and im a honda guy lol

  • @Spikestriple
    @Spikestriple 5 років тому +20

    Love my CTR, but if I didn’t need 4 doors & could afford the M2C I would definitely get the Bimmer lol.

    • @sunnyschebesta2358
      @sunnyschebesta2358 5 років тому

      Bullshit, straight 6 cant be destroyed, mine has 220000km and drives like a new car

    • @josefgriveas7113
      @josefgriveas7113 5 років тому +9

      Sunny Schebesta you’re a fucking idiot for sure 😂you might as well compare a Maserati to a Toyota in reliability as well

    • @King88_8
      @King88_8 4 роки тому

      Noone ever needs 4 doors....

    • @renanrambo7283
      @renanrambo7283 4 роки тому +3

      @@King88_8 Wait until you grow up

    • @King88_8
      @King88_8 4 роки тому +1

      @@renanrambo7283 nope. All grown up. Stuff goes in the boot, people go thru front door.. now if you said wait until youre obese, might be a different story. 370z, R32 GTR.. manage the same as using the SUV or my little hatch. well the 370z might be a tad shite even for grocery shopping

  • @Lizpig
    @Lizpig 2 роки тому

    Hey! Your channel are so much awsome and can you please review the Honda & BMW is that alright

  • @kswis
    @kswis 3 місяці тому

    I drove a camry for many years, just got an audi A6 3.0t Quattro. It feels (to me) like the best handling car on the planet. Though I know it's far from it, it's the most exhilarating car I've owned in over a decade. I'm going to assume to drive a more track focused M3 would be waay better but I just can't imagine it coming from a dependable, cheap to drive freaking camry! Hell of a time to be alive! Keep the great content coming!

  • @thegameduo1827
    @thegameduo1827 5 років тому +7

    Impressive cars! I’m a M2 Competition lover and I’m impressed by the Type-R. What a machine 😍 #jdm

  • @danny200mph5
    @danny200mph5 5 років тому +31

    Truly amazing that the Civic TypeR is only a second slower...for $30,000 grand less! If you invested in some performance mods for the TypeR for like another 50-60hp it would easily beat the M2.

    • @aaa84gt
      @aaa84gt 5 років тому +4

      Or did some research and invested those 30.000 in the stock market you could buy an NSX after a you have grown tired of the Type R... Ridiculous price difference between these two cars, really.

    • @boss4330
      @boss4330 5 років тому +2

      Nothing amazing about that. The Civic is an econo car built for the track while the BMW is a premium sport RWD coupe.

    • @rickyuknowme
      @rickyuknowme 5 років тому

      Why are they running a cheap type r against a real car.

    • @aaa84gt
      @aaa84gt 5 років тому +5

      @@boss4330 It isn't that special. I have a 4 series. The "premiumness" grows old, a good driving experience stays forever (hence why all classics have shot up in value).

    • @boss4330
      @boss4330 5 років тому +1

      @@aaa84gt We are talking about an M2 here, not a run of the mill BMW. The M2 like any other M car is going to be a classic.

  • @Barrettcoronalight
    @Barrettcoronalight 2 роки тому +2

    In the end it was between the fk8, m2 comp, and the RS3. I ended up with the civic. Awesome car.

  • @langamaphumulo5009
    @langamaphumulo5009 4 роки тому +2

    I enjoyed this video,i'll go with the beema because of the driving experience it gives you.Its price tag couldn't sway me or make me settle for anything lesser.I believe in the BMW brand and everything it comes with,including the price tag.

  • @drew5200
    @drew5200 5 років тому +3

    Finally something to look at besides the Knicks 🤣🤣 lmao❗️

  • @ApoClips
    @ApoClips 5 років тому +101

    Nice one punch man thirts !

    • @biggboysouth
      @biggboysouth 5 років тому +9

      Thirts?

    • @meanmugginj
      @meanmugginj 5 років тому +2

      @@biggboysouth 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @eem5097
      @eem5097 5 років тому +8

      @@meanmugginj He accidentally typed the wrong letter hahahahahah 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and then the other guy pointed it out lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂comedy gold 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ROTFBMALFO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @meanmugginj
      @meanmugginj 5 років тому +1

      @@eem5097 I don't know if I can keep up with all these new words 😂😂😂

    • @meanmugginj
      @meanmugginj 4 роки тому

      @Auto blipper 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jay108D
    @jay108D 4 роки тому +2

    9:32 that Type-R intake is just so good

  • @daynevickers1079
    @daynevickers1079 3 роки тому

    Thomas, thanks for my new mantra; " This IS the M-Car that I deserve"... I'm gonna say it three times and click my heels

  • @ConEnigma
    @ConEnigma 5 років тому +11

    Even though I’m a BMW fan and have own one. Still want that type R Honda.

  • @TenzaMotorsports
    @TenzaMotorsports 5 років тому +6

    I’m very BMW biased, but yea, that civic is good little car. Great comparison.

  • @LoveLikeaHurricane
    @LoveLikeaHurricane 4 роки тому +1

    Saw a white M2 competition on the showroom floor yesterday. I think it was listed for 60k. I am very happy about my Type R purchase.

  • @asadsiddiqui5843
    @asadsiddiqui5843 4 роки тому +24

    Just came to see bmw and honda lovers fight ✊🏻