2021 Mustang Mach 1 vs BMW M2 CS vs Honda Civic Type R LE // Battle Of The Special Editions
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- The 2021 Mustang Mach 1 ($77,700 CAD, ~US$57,415 as specced) is the latest track-focused special edition Mustang to arrive on the scene. But speaking of special editions, you’d be crazy to skip over the 2021 BMW M2 CS ($97,750 CAD, ~US$83,600) and the already sold-out Civic Type-R LE ($56,000 CAD, US$44,950). Watch to find out how they compare! SUBSCRIBE!!!
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Thank you to the legendary Gideon @gjauyeung for making his Type R LE available to us
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I will literally drive my Mach 1 to these guys and let them run it around the track
If you are in Canada. Email us. Thomas@thethrottlehouse.com
Not all heroes wear capes
Please do it
Yessssss!!!!!!! They’ll take care of you bro
@@josearmenta2018 but he wears a cap in fact
Now that’s wild, because I’m literally watching this on the toilet right now 😂😂
Same, we're all connected by our buttholes through a world wide system of pipes, let that sink in
Same, but I was too busy getting a blumpkin.
Same
Same here 🤣🤣
Hahaha same
The M2 CS is literally what everyone wants from BMW, I seriously hope the price doesn’t skyrocket so I can afford one some day
Too the mooon!
Everyone deserves an m2 😉
Spoiler alert: It will
Oh it will, but you can modify a competition to perform similar or better.
Too late...
Iv had a beamer for 17 years, they are amazing...when they work
😂😂 I understand you bro, I got a 2000 M roadster but at least that one is reliable. Haven’t had any issues with it except for a valve cover gasket leaking oil. 120 dollar fix and back to being a daily driver.
I love my BMW's. I also hate my BMW's. I love things that break my heart. But I will always only own a bmw.
Am a BMW owner i.. know that feeling. . Myne is the cooling system. Problem old e46
They work all the time you have to keep up on maintenance lol
@@joaomanuel813 mine E46 Ci is truly amazing. Love it and lucky me its still reliable. Not a daily driver
congratulations guys, you guys successfully bumped the M2 CS price tag for another 5k. thank you.
😂😂😂
I fucking hate when car channels do that. I remember when no one was looking at the 996 Porsche turbo and prices were dropping then two UA-camrs dropped videos. Went up 10k INSTANTLY
Hahaha good, dantis, meg!
@@Dance1617 well it's not that the car TYers are raising the price... They gave their honest reviews, and then educated consumers increased the demand of said cars. Can't hate them for that.
@@amorgan20111 No, you can't hate the YTbers for that, but you can hate the fact that for many years now there were multiple hidden gems among the affordable cars that you had to like for your own personal, very specific reasons to understand why it's good (or you had to _actually_ have a good sense of style yourself to know that people would come around to a new design), but now you just need to have a bit of free time and show a mild interest in cars to be recommended excellently presented, entertaining, popular, and informative video reviews of cars that *used to be* or *would have been* hidden gems in a few years time, but that are now so well known and popular (by people with too much money) that they are being sold _thousands_ of $ above sticker price, with most "Limited Edition" variants these days selling out before even being released to the public. It's now much, much harder to get an affordable deal on all sorts of cars simply because there is such an excess of concise information presented in an entertaining way that people who are literally just bored or that have more money than they know what to do with are suddenly informed enough to snatch up all the low priced gems that they can get because they know they will at least hold their value, if not gain in it. There's no one really to blame all that much (except maybe people who hoard cars exclusively as investments or "because I can") for taking away one of the already scarce ways that some of us poorer folk had/have to (at least temporarily) feel richer than we actually are.
I'm not a big bmw fan by any means but they killed it with this M2 imo in looks and performance and would easily, happily take it
Apart from the rubbery gearbox... But yes, an awesome car indeed
Going to stay with that I know Mustang all the way 😂
Only true BMW still on sale, it’s a shame the price point is so close to Cayman and Corvette C8 territory
Its a 2008 135i. I have a 2011 JB4 FBO 135i. Its the worst car I have owned in 40 years.
@@FFE-js2zpmuch more like a 1m coupe or m3 e46 csl ancestor
This gave me major regrets settling for a M2 Comp and not going over my budget for a M2 CS
M2 comp is absolutely phenomenal
@@rskrks 100% agree, it’s an amazing car! The F87 platform is so important to me that I kept my original ‘18 LCI M2 as well haha. My local dealer had a misano blue on frozen gold M2 CS (my dream spec) that I didn’t act on and I probably should have.
I subscribed
Just be happy you can afford one my dude.
Unless you're on the track, even a regular M2 is really no different
I just started driving my M2 CS. There are plenty of smiles per gallon. Delayed gratification is worth every dime. I bought the car back in January.
someone buy that mach 1 and give to these guys to track. that's a patriotic thing to do!
Would not waste that much money for an interior like that
Merica!
For which country? Not Canada.
Ford didn't want them to drive it cause they're not in America haha
Ford has banned journalists to put lap times for the mach1. Its most likely slower than a camaro ss 1le.
Well they nailed the bathroom sequence, caught red-handed. Lol
Brown handed* 😂😂
Oh my fucking god me too
...crap...same here...
Breh, literally same
I just learned that I've been eating my bathroom time
The jubilation on Thomas' face when he's driving the M2 CS is something that every car enthusiast has to feel at some point in their driving life. It's seriously what it's all about when it comes to autos. Love Throttlehouse!!!!!
It's sick to have a running lap speed and drag race for all you're cars you've tested, that way people can know exactly which places where and what they would wanna buy. It makes people wanna watch more of your videos as well
Well this is a nice surprise on a Thursday morning! Throttle House starts the day off right!
it’s night for me
Agree
9am for me
Agree, only disappointed it isn't Friday like I thought it was!!!!
And Doug Demuro
I have put about 2000 miles on my M2 CS now and it really is such a special car and seriously puts a smile on your face every time your drive it!
I've an M4 and they drive so damn nice! Pushing them around turns and they stay so flat and grip
@@dinosoarskill17 its so different cars tho , cant compare both!
@@Misanoblue As a M2 owner, i agree m4 / m2 big difference, hence why i walked away from a m4 comp and bought a m2 comp last year
@@ppppw2 I bet the M2 is so much fun to drive due to it being smaller. I feel like it's much more ideal, these cars just keep getting bigger and bigger. I should have gotten an M2, honestly
You know man people talk shit about BMW and how Mercedes is better its really not the m4 is better than the c63s the m5 comp shits on the gt63s and e63s the m5 is cheaper. The m2 is a very special handling car honestly BMW is really killing it I love it so much and hope to own many BMW's
I love that you guys seem to know you've got the best job in the world - it comes through in every video, and I tell everyone I can to watch.
U.S. watcher here - I've been wanting to rep a shirt of yours since I started watching you guys years ago (hard to remember anything before 2020 but I'm guessing it was more than a year), but I just did cause this was such a fun review. Keep it up. You and savagegoose are my absolute favorites to watch.
Currently taking a morning dump, “man, I love throttle house!”
lmaoooooooo
Nice, nice :D
TMI
Evening dump for me
Me tooo
You should have told Ford no thanks and not give them any airtime at all.
Agree 100%
Nah I like how they made Ford look absolutely ridiculous
Probably some Ford joker that thinks gas engines are yucky..
@@jordanwiens1921 Gas engines *are yucky*... They're fun and awesome, but absolutely disgusting in how they decimate the environment.
@@ElusiveTy you got that right they are fun and awesome.
These are all very unique in their very own ways, love them all, they’re all truly gems
Makes sense! VW does a Nurburgring setting on their Clubsport's and R that have softened dampers - it actually keeps the wheels on the ground better in undulations on the pavement where a stiff suspension won't have much contact as the suspension stays in place. Awesome video again guys, gripping from start to finish.
In the bathroom, soaking my feet while watching throttle house…..this is life!
In the bathroom watching Throttle House! Best time of the day!
That's gay
i’m in the bathroom, taking a poop while watching throttle house......i feel amazing
Taking a shit at work, watching TH. Love to see it.
@@sweatyfootenjoyer poop*
Throttle House and carwow drag races are two of my favorite UA-cam channels. And anything Chris Harris.
Agree 100%
You two and your team have literally perfected the art of making car content.
It's great to see how many subscribers you've added. You guys deserve it. What are the 5 most fun cars you've driven on the street? I'm not interested in track times, although it's great watching you guys on the track.
Thomas is going to have a heart attack & a brain aneurysm over how good the M2 CS is 😂😂 !! Breathe dude 😅😅
it’s the bmw fanboyness in him 😂😂
I wonder if he could have better times on other cars tested if he was just as excited?
@@pauldevassy2379 I WAS just as excited for all the cars. I LOVE the type R. This one just didn’t live up to what I was hoping for.
@@thomasholland8436 Hi tom, are you gonna do a review on a BMW M8 any time soon?
@@CJ-gk5bl Well, the M2 CS did win EVO's Car of The Year against some serious machines. So perhaps that fanboyism is justified to large degree.
21:30
When you've been best friends for so long that you start looking like each other.
This is my 1st track episode to watch I rarely watch them....but I feel like this is the best episode yet...good job guys watched it twice now😂😂
Your review a few months back of the M2 CS was a huge reason why I went out and bought one. I’m sad Thomas didn’t get one. You missed out! This thing is an instant classic!
Same here saw the review went out and got one
Y'all must be rich as hell if you can watch a car review and just decide to then buy an $85k car
Ford PR guy: “No you can’t take our car on a track.”
1.45 million Throttle House subscribers: Ford sucks. Me get M-car.
Exactly
More than likely because Ford wants the official numbers to come from testing on their track with their trained drivers for the handling package.
People only see ring times as standard anyway so Ford is dumb.
Ford does suck.
@@michaelfried3123 I guess Ferrari sucks too lol. They don't allow any times to be recorded period.
Was waiting for Thomas to call that M2 the ultimate driving machine.
You guys nailed the overview of the cars dead on, totally agree, all three are a riot!
reviews like these are very helpful. less hype and numbers. thank you.
How utterly disappointing- a Track Pack Car that can't go on the track. Thank you, Ford of Canada.
The production level you guys produce every video is so incredible!
Yeah they have a team
I can't even process the quality of these videos. Either a major studio is behind you or you are about to get scooped up by one. This beats anything else. Unbelievable quality and production.
9:15 - 9:46 was pure vintage Clarkson Top Gear and I loved every second of it.
Exactly!
Your videos just keep getting better and better. Well done - perfect edits, explaining the tech details about the laps and reasons why things were faster/slower than expected - all while being funny.
Keep up the great work!!
My roommate and I were just talking about it but y'all do reviews as good as old Top Gear. Such quality content, always love to see when a review video drops. Keep up the awesome work!!
I haven’t seen one of your vids in a few weeks. It’s good to be back. Missed you guys.
Your best video yet! Great work everyone!
topgear mightve been ruined now but who cares when we have quality funny and informative content like this
topgear isnt ruined tho ... there is still a chris harris there who is the car review King ... much better than those 3 old guys
@@cagriyuksel6448 yeah nah... the old top gear is superior (by a factor of about 10 billion)
@@cagriyuksel6448 sure maybe from a review and information point of view, but "those 3 old guys" were way more fun and entertaining than the current top gear hosts.... The epic challenges that they did were amazing
@@cagriyuksel6448 ah I see you are NOT man of a culture
@@cagriyuksel6448 Chris Harris is fantastic but the chemistry between Jeremy, Richard and James cannot ever be matched.
"Thank you to Michelin Canada for donating tires today"
Nice timing.
Best intro you ever done. Caught me in that last part of the intro
Love this channel, still can't believe these guys aren't syndicated, and on TV, this fills the void Top Gear left in me
That M2cs is an absolute masterpiece
Literally my favorite duo on YT. You guys bring epic content!
Wow. I was not expecting such a dominant performance by the M2. That lap time ! It is the fastest "real car" lap time on your track. [My brain just automatically filters out the no-longer-made Viper ACR and the 1-seater BAC Mono.]
Incredible.
So good to see the subs building. Extra is definitely worth a look too if you haven't already.
The CS is the perfect car for me. It basically takes everything I loved about my 135i - size, tossability, relative simplicity - and shoves all the things that made my M4 great into that sort of package. Incredibly rewarding to drive, and I can't help but just put miles on it.
I was planning on building up the 135i to make that my primary autocross car, but the M2 has basically superseded the 135i and M4 for everything I'd be using those cars for. As sad as that is, I don't see myself driving those any more so I'll be looking to sell both.
Seeing thomas's excitement with the m2 cs, it makes me want to drive one so bad!
Woah, i was genuinely not expecting that M2CS lap time. Ive lost interest in modern current BMWs but holy hell i was legit surprised when they said the time. Good job M division, just wish the CS were more available and not marked up through the roof.
Just when I was concerned that the intros had been ditched, Throttle House came through in spades. Well done. Well done.
I love the Effort put into the videos
Keep it up Guys 🙌
Very interesting to see how the touring Type R will do on cup 2 tires. You guys should really give it a shot.
That m2 cs is mindblow...you guys rock..bring more videos like this..and more BMW's
Just love that M2 CS. My “affordable” dream car at this stage I’d say.
wait for a better version of m2cs you will love it
Same here, except I foresee the CS going up in value big time. It’s going to become un-affordable very soon.
If I had the $$ for two new cars, I would buy the GT350R and keep it as a very rare occasion car, due to its skyrocketing value for low mileage ones (can I say early retirement 😀), and then buy this M2 CS and use it as my track car. I would keep my current GTI as my daily because it’s that good as a daily and fun car (will be 500whp/480wtq soon 🙂).
I have a 2020 GT Mustang but ordered the Mach 1 delivered in September if everything goes as plan. But this being said, I looked at the M2 too cause taxes included, the Mach 1 and the M2 are the same price tag in Belgium. But tbh, the Mach 1 and the V8 is so pleasant so I went for the Mach 1 🥰
@@skyhawkheavy7524 should’ve bought the GT350
@@JacesOwnWorld there is no Shelby sold by Ford in Belgium. Only the regular Mustang (ecoboost and GT), Bullit and now Mach 1. And with taxes in Belgium, the price of the Mach 1 matches the price of a GT350R
Imagine the lap time that CS could pull off with the CC brakes and the DCT.
Holy shit, I forgot this was the manual. You're absolutely right, the DCT with carbon ceramics would have killed!
also, everyone does an ECU tune on these, which bumps the power to 560bhp (+110bhp) without any other mods.
@@giladv that is fucking insane wtf
@@tricktreat688 Unti you get a spun crank hub lol
@@giladvand just like every German car people do that on the motor won’t make it to 120k miles without oil consumption issues, blowback, and seal leaks
Man all 3 are awesome cars. Great video
1.42M Subs, and still not enough. Been watching you guys for a long time, and you just continue to be legends. Keep up the amazing work guys!
Damn I really want that M2cs so BAD!!! Amazing video
Yes!! GT350R track test please. Need some competition for that CS.
Another great vid. Thomas is like a modern day Jermey Clarkson and James is May and Hammond in one.
I would love to see a cross-over episode with throttle-house and carwow. Just the best car channels on the net.
Love the content guys, keep it up💪🔥
When you are in airport bored and see a throttle house video. My boredom cured. :)
hahaha! same here!
Where you goin?
Great video, I'd like to see the gt500 carbon fiber track pack vs that M2 CS
I think I just bought the wrong tires for my M2Comp... I guess I need EDC too...
Damn You Throttle House!!
I've been spending the last year convincing myself that I don't need to trade up to a CS and now you've set me right back.
That intro really hit home in a whole new way. Lol. (He comments while sitting on the can)
For me this is like a comparison between a M2cs and some things.
Put the name type r in ya mouth u silly goose
Idk man the M2 is absolutely awful looking
@@LeoMkII u r completely wrong
@@RuggedCoyote69 nah, the Honda isn’t even worth mentioning in the presence of an BMW M2 CS 😂
Guys, this is Top Gear in the their prime quality! Well done, gentlemen. Thank you.
Another fun review... Please don't be irresponsible like many car reviewers that make comments to say one is less or more for you when you have no intent to buy either... Great to just give unbiased view and why you would choose based on your taste without claiming a winner or lose.
Best intro yet boys.
The one review of the Mach 1 I was looking forward to an Ford Canada goes an ruins it. An it's the track focused one too.... 🤦🏼♂️
You guys keep reminding me of Jason Camissa and Johnny Lieberman. Which is great, these guys were genuinely entertaining to watch! I just love how you guys look at cars and make these a show. Go team, Keep at it! Oh and what's that? 56000 cad for the Civic? Gee!
Literally watching this on the toilet as the intro played out with Thomas doing the same lol!
Nice save on the brake fade! Kept it on the track like a pro.
Just noticed that the print on Thomas' tshirt is the instrument cluster of the Lancia Delta Integrale! Is a review coming soon?!
Wow that into was way too accurate. I hate how well you got me but it totally deserves a sub. You earned it
The intro is the best ever! Taking a dump while watching Thomas Hilarious !!
After the Viper ACR video I thought - how will the Canadian/British dudes top this video? Aaaaand they have almost done it. Even with the lack of hooning, which is, of course, slightly unfortunate. Greetings from Latvia and well done once again!
Not only Cup 2 has good grip.. it has very good temp management.. never had to let air out on my GT4
Amazing video guys. I’d give my left nut to drive any of these amazing cars. M2, just wow. Mustang looks and sounds amazing and for everyday road fun the Civic Type R.
Loved the intro, mainly because I was actually doing the exact same when I saw it 🤣
I'm so impressed with the mach 1s time it's like it didn't even move 😂
Excellent review. Thank you!
Can you guys review the 2022 gv70 and its competitors? Love the vids. Keep it up!
Loving this review!
I'm so happy to see manual and normal aspirated cars in the top 3.
And the ACR was both !
The intro was epic... i thought you have a camera in my bathroom:)))
You guys need more subscribers asap, so great content on youtube!
Was literally sitting on the toilet and thought there was a camera behind me
Just like me! Went back from home, taking a dump, opened YT and saw this notification 😅
Im im love with this channel!!
Thank you for that Lancia Delta Evoluzione dashboard t-shirt! 😍
Damn, didn’t think I’d be called out like that for watching on the toilet. These guys are clairvoyant.
Just shows the potential BMW usually leaves on the table with their trash alignments on most M cars. OG M2 understeers like fwd and the software cuts all boost until you straighten the wheel. So happy they clearly fixed those flaws and released its potential!
or learn to turn off the Stability control...
@@PresidentEvil doesn’t matter. Steering angle sensor stays active. I used to literally track one for a living, trust me.
The Mustang is the route I’d go. I love the Mach 1. And Civic Type R markups are insane. On auto trader, I came across 3 Type R LEs, and all 3 were asking 87-90k.
I’ve been trying to find a Mach 1 but almost all dealers want 10 over MSRP. Not as wild as the type R but still an issue.
You’ll find one but you just gotta keep on making them calls not all dealership are greedy
@@yungactivist Most are. Even regular Type Rs are being Marked up pretty high. I found a few used ones from 2018 with like 30-40k Kilometres on them and they were literally asking MSRP for a new one. But when you go look for a new one, they are asking 55k.
@@raiden824 The car market is insane right now. Especially with the Chip shortage.
Thats alot of cash for 306 hp..I like the type r but there not worth over 53k at max.should start at 39.5...great top end and handling but that price you gotta be over 400hp for me
They say exactly what im thinking 2 seconds after i think it, i love this duo
Can you guys do a C7 ZR1 review? Would love to see some of your takes on the switch from front to mid engined, as well as some other earlier 2000's cars. 2014 Z28, GT500 etc
Its crazy how you can get mustang mach 1 for the same price as civic type R LE in north america. Unfortunately im from Europe and jf i had that option, id obviously get mustang
they aren’t SUPPOSED to be the same price. the type r LE is supposed to be 40k USD but dealers are marking up to 65k USD.
@@cameronkeogh4177 haha the dealer by me is selling the yellow CTR LE for 85k
@@ROLLINGFANATICS 85k for a Civic...
@@Corvolet5 and someone bought it too. 🤣🤣 when the ctr came out in 2017 , someone paid over $90k for it
The Mach1 and m2 cs are also marked up about the same mark up amount in so cal as the CTR LE.
Well this explains why my friend in his type r LE was 2 seconds slower than my 21' type r last track day. He was on the cup 2's and I was on hankook rs4 tires. I expected it to be the other way around.
This is very unusual. My Type R from 2019 gets much better cornering speeds with the Cup 2 vs original sport Contact 6. Entry and exit are around 5 kph faster on a 100 kph corner. Tremendously improved grip at lower speeds as well, puts the power down very easily. Does the limited edition come with the RO1 specification cup 2?
Sounds like the suspension tuning is the problem, not the tires.
@@JoshuaTootell tires were listed for reference, the cup 2 is a faster tire. This is the point I was making, the overly stiff suspension is unsettling.
@@cosminmihu9963 I haven't done any track driving with the continental tires as I hear they roll over very easily.
@@johnss2k434 they do roll quite easily but my biggest issue is they started delaminating on me. The tires only had 50 miles on them and after 1 track day on a 1.4 mile course, there are threads showing on the edge of the rear tires because chunks of rubber are missing.