2019 VW Golf R vs Civic Type R vs Veloster N - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- CONTINUING OUR FULL TRACK SERIES! James and Thomas take the new 2019 Golf R, the 2019 Civic Type R and the 2019 Hyundai Veloster N and pit them against each other in a full track test: Drag race, drifting, and lap times! Can the lightness of the Veloster N defeat the powerful but heavier Golf and Civic? Let's find out!
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The veloster’s suspension isn’t bad on the road. N mode is overkill though, even for most tracks.
Really is, I use mine in custom with the suspension on normal.
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Well it's a track car, so.
Hyundai / Genesis making some of the largest strides in the industry in the last decade.
Genesis...not so much anymore
@@thetreblerebel ??
@@natebarry5553 big luxury boats, on par with what Cadillac did or does.. Genesis use to be a badass sports luxury model. Now...up market
@@thetreblerebel wha? They’re still doing great
Loool. Genesis are shitboxes
9:05 - just gotta comment on the absolutely stunning background scenery of this track; those windmills really add to the aesthetic
Best verdict of any other similar reviews. If you want FAST=CTR, COMFORT/SAFETY=Golf R, FUN=Vel N. Personally, I have the Vel N, and it is fun AF! 👍
Dan Kim just don't own the Golf R out of warranty.....
@@Newzchspy Or, take care of your goddamn car like a German does and you'll have it for decades. Like I did mine. In ROW markets VW is known for reliability mostly because people follow the book and do service on time, replace parts etc. Even in N America VW reliability has been average or better for about a decade now.
@@Newzchspy My last car was MK7 GTI with APR stage III w/Golf R turbo. Great car, fast, not as fun as Vel N. Rattled and squeaked everywhere. Vel N may look and feel cheap inside, but at least it's built solid. I am very happy with it.
How the hell do you guys have access to all if these cars at one time?!👍🏼😊
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The more I watch their videos the more I like them ! Because I drive mostly (like most of us) in daily mode, I would buy the Golf R but god damn I love the sound of the Hyundai, I would love to test it one day. I’m not a fan of Honda but I have to admit, it’s really a great machine and it’s about time they bring back a real sports car.
I wonder how people will look at these cars in 10+ years. The old ek civic type r and dc integra type r are iconic. The resale value should be good with the current type r
thanks fellas, that was fun to watch! cheers
I will choose The Golf R , it is way better in every single way
It lost in performance to both and costs more then both significantly wtf you talking about
Has krown sponsorship 10 years from now. "I just got my wrx crowned recently"
vw gang!
I wonder how many ctr owners who already bought coil overs backs were up? Nice.
4:00 When you mis-shift and its the car fault HAHAHA.
Type R is known to have a crunchy 2nd gear.
the seats in the Type R certainly are supportive but they feel super cheap sitting in them! wish they could've made them feel less rinky-dink.
Great review!
you guys deserve 1,0000,000 sub ......excellent presentation .LOVED IT
3:30 When vtec kicks in.
Yes
Am I the only one who thinks that James sounds like Ethan off car throttle 😂
...great stuff...
...drags should be best of 3 though...
That Honda might have some top performance on track and all but it's the worst looking sports car in its class
Veloster with the DCT would be nice to see
Keep it up boys
that face at 4:14 lolololol
Velostar N's debut is impressive to compete with Civic and Golf.
Will most likely be more reliable than a Volkswagen too.
Vernon Gamble VW tech here haven’t seen any issues out of the Rs thus far
Except for the guy who money shifted and over revved it and blew the engine buy that’s his own fault
I know some Hyundai techs and they replace engines all day long
R S that isn’t the case anymore.
Vernon Gamble NEVER😂😂😂 Hyundai is notorious for being shit lol
@R S just bought a veloster r-spec a few months ago, the warranty that comes with any hyundai is insane.
"Cars rust."
Live in California, do not understand.
Pretty much lol
You lucky person
@@Labtec86 liberal alert
@@HH-gm9nz cope alert
@@unknownninja4430 incoherent sentence alert
Really enjoyed this. Super content, guys! I bought a Veloster N last weekend because it is a great compromise between the Daily vs Track focused competition, AND because it's the bargain of the century. Have you heard that Hyundai has released notice to honor warranty claims even if the N is being tracked or auto-crossed? Bonus!
I have a Golf R, but I would happily own a Veloster N. Looks like a great car at a great price. I wouldn't touch that Honda for any price, however. Congrats on your cool car!
About that...did u have to upgrade to the next level of warranty for that?
@@shortroundChris no that’s factory warranty no upgrade
I bought one 2 days ago and I’m in love with it
I still can’t believe the newcomer from Hyundai is already good enough to be compared to some of the best.
I still can't believe it and I own one. I can't believe I bought a Hyundai.
Mike Dawson i believe i love Hyundai.
@@MikeDawson1 Congrats Mike! Tell me, is it really harsh on the road when you put it in comfort setting or is it livable?
@@johnholst I have the R-spec and I've driven the N. It is harsh. If it is your only car, you'd have to just grin and bear it. If it is your weekend car or track car, it is fine.
@@gwcrispi That R Spec is fantastic little car. So much car and so much fun for the buck!
These guys are great. Very underrated channel.
Agree, between you and savagegeese, that's all the car channels I need 😁
all channel is struggle in the beginning,because these guys are new here, people are watching carwow that have the same format
Thomas is cool but James seems fake
Big fan knowledgeable and entertaining
Alex neverborn , what do you mean by that Alex? They are both such nice guys in my opinion, your comment hurts those that appreciate the contributions each one makes to the effort. Separately they are great, together they are exceptional!
No doubt, Hyundai has been on a roll for a decade now, there is no more denying their brand in every car class.
And trucks, and busses etc. All in every power generation mode from EV to ICE.
World brand, modern car tech warts and all.
And pretty soon in small pick up class
For sure! The Veloster really surprised me in this.
It’s also the only one u would die in if it flipped lmao
after 10 - 15 years the Hyundai wont have any significant resale value whatsoever , but the golf and civic will still be pretty pricey …..
You guys are one of the best automotive channel on UA-cam, absolutely amazing. Please do an Si vs GTI, would be interesting.
Type-R... really a perfect fighter jet.
Love my Veloster N more every time I drive it.
I want one but also want golf r dream car but velostar love them botj
Great car! I love my Golf R. Hot hatches FTW!
@@oscarestrada3926 all the hot hatches are great! Just picked up a 22 veloster n
@@TylerWolstie Congrats on the new car! There is a baby blue veloster n with the red trim near where I live. It's very nice, honestly the veloster is one of the better looking modern hot hatches. Do you plan on leaving it stock or are you going to join the voided powertrain warranty gang?
I actually went to dealers and drove all three cars, and I bought a Veloster N w/ Performance Package. Hyundai said their goal was "smiles per miles", they totally delivered! Not only is it fun to drive but the tech is really impressive for the money. I personally love the button on the door handles that allows you simply push the button to unlock the doors or lock the doors, no need to ever touch the key fob... just leave it in your pocket or bag.
PLAY_HRD my 2013 Audi has that
Note that on the Civic, when you touch the back of the handle, the doors unlock. If you press the black button on the same handle, they relock or, optionally, the car can lock itself while you walk away,
Most new cars do this lol
type r has 3 of those. 2 on front doors, on on the boot lid open mechanism
also it can lock itself when you walk away.
also it can unlock only drivers door when you go closer
or you can change it and open all
or if inly drivers door open option is ticked, and you go around to the passenger's door, or some rear door. all 4 doors will unlock. and if you go away, all of them will lock agsin
how nice is that
Now THAT was brilliant! It's like car porn for us average Joe's. Thank you very much.
Hyundai surprise me! Well done
It's a good car
Finally.. old velosters are shit !!!
@@nickoautickfordxr6skidpig408 the naturally aspirated manual 1.6s are shit for power but can go literally 400k without anything but consumables.
@@fishstickparty thats the complete opposite of the truth actually !! The veloster is known for engine falure.. do some research
@@nickoautickfordxr6skidpig408 not the NA 1.6 please do your own
Can't believe I'm saying this but with my dollars, I would take the Veloster N. Love the looks, sounds and price. Still a 10 year warranty?
10 year warranty Yeah that's nice, ur going to need it bud. 😂🤣
B-RAd Santana why would he need it they are one of the most reliable brands on the market now.. lol
I believe that 10yr 100k mile warranty is only on the power train.
Its 5, 60 on the electronic. The trype n has very little time that it came out so we dont know how reliable they are. I work for hyundai and im not a volaster fan at all. The looks are ugly, it is quick but would not buy one.
@@wolvesdengaming4844 LOL right........ more like one of the worst cars money can buy. Owning one myself and worked for them. Hahaha ok
The Civic Type R would get more love if it wasn't so over-styled and goofy looking. My eyes! Good thing I never go to a racetrack, so I can buy the Golf R and be more than happy in the real world.
Agreed, track comparisions are very overrated for real life driving.
I didn't expect that from the Veloster, Hyundai group is for real stepping up their game
Yousef Deeb they have the former lead guy from BMW M division
Thomas launched like an ass..and can't shift..facts!
hondatrix Boo hoo, little girl.
Until it falls apart in a few years and the resale is trash.
@@justinmartin4841 it's not the 1990s anymore
11:30 What a genuine pleasure to watch the three shots together of the three MANUAL cars driven hard. Long live manuals!
Agree. soooo much more fun to drive and way more engaging.
@@jozosaravanja1626 u forgot to say that it is engaging
Manual car are done, sorry
long live cvts!
@@jozosaravanja1626 it's also very engaging
I'mma buy the Civic Type R just for one dumb reason
Big Fking Wing
Trusts me its more than just that Wing. The golf looks like a normal Golf with a R badge. The Hoondie hmmm well yeah its a Hoondie LOL :)
Dude that will always be reason enough XD
VTEC YO
The touring wing looks better on it tho....
“Silly ricer useless wings are for penguins” something all Honda guys are used to hearing besides nice lawn mower. 🤣👍
Thomas: the Type-R is a “masterpiece of a driver’s car” and “perfectly dialed in” and “faster and better in everything”
Picks Veloster
Ok.
senorgato70 only cause the Veloster is a bit less serious. Makes a better noise. Is more fun
Well that’s certainly an interesting way to make a choice. Can you imagine a Formula 1 racer saying “I want the less serious car to drive”. Lol
@@senorgato70 you aren't buying these cars to professionally race
Ethan Ross no shit. You really felt it necessary to say that? You must spend lots of Friday nights at home
It's also 25% cheaper... 10K Canadian less. To many, it's a fairly good tradeoff!
Type r dude completely trashed the launch 😂
seen on other videos (car wow)the type r does a faster quarter mile than the golf r
@@MrKrishnadevotee no it doesn't lol...Golf R is quicker by a tenth or so as a manual and a half second if it's dsg....
@@MrKrishnadevotee well idk ,but the golf R that carewow use in their videos is fkn garbage,it loses to cars that has same/less horsepower
@@NaseemHeno1 okay maybe I am thinking about the rolling race, it beats golf in the rolling race for sure everytime
😂 the driver was like "c'mon turbo" 😂😂
This was not an entirely surprising result. The Golf R is nice car, but not a track car. The CTR is the best track car here, but is it 10K better than the Veloster N? I don't think so. Great job by Hyundai.
Yes it is 10k better. The build quality is on another level tbh.
@@clutchfreak13 You're right about the interior. The CTR is much nicer. I gotta disagree about the value though! There's no way the CTR is 10K better or put another way, almost 40 percent better.
But for 10k extra you get to look like an absolute clown getting out of one of the ugliest, idiotic looking, AutoZone special, fake vents riced out cars ever made. That's priceless.
@@stansid3326 Styling is a personal choice, but I'm with you on that! I'm too old to drive something like the CTR!
@@johnholst I am not, yet I'd not be caught in it. It's one of the cars that IS objectively ugly. Nevermind all the tacky rice for 5 year olds glued on Type R. The base Civic hatchback is Frankenstein of a car. All the lines are just jacked up. It looks like 3-4 different cars welded together. Old Accord in the front and the rear is a Civic sedan frozen mid morph into a Subaru forester, stang by a bee and smashed by a semi truck. This car is Pontiac Aztec kind of ugly.
After owning a Veloster Turbo for a couple months, I was definitely rooting for the Veloster N in this video. Really surprised how closely it performed to the Type R! I just love how fun and unique Velosters are.
I dont have any of these but I love to see Veloster beating the VW!
The point is it wasn't close 3 secs in a track of only 1 minute is an eternity, if it was the nurbugring your're looking at about a 20 sec diff
I look forward to all up the work you guys do. and I generally trust you guys more than most of the other journalists / car reviewers. This was excellent. It's pretty much what I expected actually. I didn't think the manual golfer would launch that well though.
I bought a Veloster N a month ago. Tried the civic type R, drove a GTI rabbit but no Golf R. Honestly, on the road the veloster was far and away the most engaging to drive. Civic type R was great but the dealer wanted 38k for the civic and 28k for the N. The civic just wasn’t worth the extra 10k to me. For 33k it would have been a serious contender though cause I loved the seats and driving position. N is better than GTI, no contest.
Congratulations man! I was hoping to get the N before the type R too! Honestly the amount of performance it has and it costs wayy less is amazing. Unfortunately I recently found out I can't fit in one cuz I'm like 6'7 at least and it's way too uncomfortable for me :(
Aamir Khawaja I’m about 6’3 and it’s a bit snug but I have a long torso and shorter legs. 6’7 is bit tall though, look at challengers if you want a sports car you can fit in. Crazy amounts of space for tall guys
Aamir Khawaja Not as much fun, but an RWD Stinger GT rings in at 36K and should fit you just fine.
Excelent choice 👍
Nice video. Here’s my take: The Type R is absolutely ridiculous, it’s not even fair on the track, but the styling is out of control haha. I’m jealous that the United States won’t get the i30N, I know the Veloster N is essentially the same thing, but the Veloster isn’t anywhere near as practical as the i30... The interior of the Hyundai is definitely lacking, but again, it’s the price point, they put the money into the performance, not the luxury. Then the Golf R, the most sophisticated, laid back hot hatch there is. I personally like the way the Golf looks, but the track performance isn’t top tier anymore, same with the GTI at that. However, what it lacks in pure track shredding, it makes up for in the most comfortable cabin and the most presentable exterior you’re going to find in this segment. It’s the only car you can show up to your girlfriends parents house in, yet still be able to walk most vehicles on the road with. Depending on what your goals are, these cars will serve them perfectly without breaking the bank too much. If you want the best bang for your buck with performance, get the N line, if you want a track ripper that will burn anything in its path, get the Type R, if you want to be a grown up with some speed, get the Golf.
All that said, can we get an F in the chat for the Focus RS (and ST)? Lol
flopkin F - FoST owner here. The death of the US Focii is sad but they had a good run...like a resistance holding back the tide of crossovers and cute-utes. Now the Veloster N caries on the torch. It’s my pick.
Have 2 good friends, who are parents with a type r, great commuter with good gas mileage, and comfortable on long trips. All of us love the way the type r looks. We are in are mid 30s to 40s.
Veloster N is a lighter car then i30N. Better off with a real N spec'd Accent at a much better price point.
Golf R is less practical than the Civic, has worse seats and worse economy. The view that the Golf R is the only daily choice and that it is the only car that you can turn upto your girlfriends parents in.... well maybe for people who worry about what other people think. In real life the Civics looks arent too aggressive, no different to Evos and Subarus from the past.
how is the golf r less practical than the civic? just asking because i'm interested
Look, some of you have laughed at Hyundai for a long time. Meanwhile, as an "old head", I have been doing my research. Since the beginning of this century, Hyundai has been slowly and quietly working it's way into the lineup with top-name car companies. They have their own foundry, and they also spent almost 200 million on metallurgy. I first bought a brand new top-of-the-line Sonata back in 2006. It had the 3.3 liter V6 that was pushing 237hp. It even had a sport-shift feature, but it would only make the shifts near redline. It could and would beat a base 525 BMW that had 227 hp. The ex traded it in with almost 140,000 miles, and it still ran like brand new. I currently have a Accent GLS as my daily driver. That one is about to turn 200,00 miles. It doesn't burn oil and it runs like a top. Due to the mileage, it was time to renew suspension, timing belt, and ignition parts. Now it's read for another 100,000 miles. I am currently at adding another high-performance compact to the garage, and all three of these cars are on the list. The bang for the buck is the N. Plus, if I want to void my warranty, I can do a few minor upgrades with the money saved, and beat BOTH the other cars. Don't sleep on Hyundai.
The Hyundai is cheaper and has a manual handbrake. That alone makes me interested. But the type r is supposedly more comfortable. That electronic brake makes me skittish even though I drive a regular civic right now.
Maybe Hyundai's sports cars are good but every single person I know who got a Hyundai as there first cars because they are dirt cheap all suffered greatly, the accent after only 90 000 had issue going up a normal uphill road barely making it ar 70km/h. Back suspensions just broke on all 3 of them one was my sister's, an other my cousins and last one was one my friends accent. There cheap, bad reputation is deserved just as much as any other car company because all of them have there faults.
@@Speedether Probably because they do not maintain them. I'm on my third Hyundai and never had any major problems. Letting things slide can do that.
@@pointsur67 you can think that but looking online and peoples opinions it's very clear that you are the exception.
@@Speedether not in my circles. Everyone I know has few problems with theirs.
The veloster for the money and overall a fun quick car !! Love it !!!! 😎💪🏼👏🏻👏🏻
I owned an MK7 Golf R, and a Focus RS. The Golf was more practical, comfortable, and reliable. But even with mods it was just boring. It's a very clinical car that is good, but doesn't seem to have a soul. The Focus RS was so much more fun but very unreliable and it will likely be my first and last Ford. Right now I have a modified (tuned, exhaust, coilovers) ND Miata Club that may just be the best car I have ever owned. But as a complimentary car I'm really thinking the Veloster N would be a perfect garage mate for the Miata... hmmm..
I have a 2017 Golf R and I completely agree with you that it's clinical, to use your words. But I happen to love that about it...? But I would happily save close to $10k and own that Veloster. The Honda is just too damn ugly to be seen in.
Former Focus RS owner as well x 2. Blew the head gasket, replaced the second with a Stinger GT. Also have a Miata RF Club, which has become my all time favorite car. So tossable.
German cars Will not last as long as a Type R
Check out for a final edition evo x you will save money and power is unlimited
thillyard1 i feel you I drive a 2008 fn2 type r and my cousin has a stage 2 mk6 gti, Even tho his car is a bit faster in straight line the level engagement and smiles you get is nowhere near the honda
The Veloster actually has closer to 290hp.
The Hyundai engineers designed that GDI engine to be able to take advantage of running 93 octane.
the type r has a gain on 93 as well with 320 hp
@@james6yearsago599 I love the type r but I have an optima with the same engine as the N
This is why my son just got his Veloster N for his 21st BIRTHDAY.
I never heard the end of complaints about his Sonata. Now he’s in hot hatch heaven! That N screams and pops. Hugs corners so tightly. In my test drive I hit 100 on the freeway in almost no time!! Love the Type R, but not into paying the price.
Golf R should of had the DSG but I prefer the VW in almost every way. Looks are much cleaner and less cartoonish while also having major potential due to the AWD setup. Should get an Audi RS3 to put in the mix.
RS3 is in a totally different class. It'll almost be like comparing apples to oranges in a sense
The Golf R is designed for the DSG...the manual is an afterthought
a far comparison with all manuals but yes, you're 100% right. the DSG was what the R was designed for.
The Volestor N looks like a Rocket League car ⚽️ 🚗
Um no it doesn't lol
Well done! You guys definitely stepped up your game. Glad I subscribed. The Civic Type R is a masterwork but for my money and the lovely sound of that exhaust, that Veloster N will be our next car. Keep up the great work!
Thanks guys! Buying the Veloster tomorrow!
The Veloster is badass. That's where my money would go.
The Golf R is the most comfortable and easiest to live with... but the Veloster N and Type R show that FWD is not a handicap when it comes to performance. The smile I get when I push my CTR through a tight corner cannot be overstated.
Have you ever been on a road trip with a type r, it takes bumps like you are in luxury car in comfort mode. We drove it from Texas to Arkansas, and made 35 miles a gallon going 75 and 80 most of the way there, and the seats are so comfortable, but a little hard to get out of lol
It's so much fun. I want to daily mine so bad but I'm still on stock wheel and tires. Plus i work outside and I'm dirty when I'm done. Rather let my focus 3 door hatch 5 speed take the task. Its so boring though lol. CTR is too much fun
Fwd still is if you want much any more power than they come with, and test them out in say, rain or really cold when the sticky tires are out of there element. The golf still costs way too much though, even if it is the most "refined".
Golf R suffers from a lack of an LSD. those 2 other cars have them. Even the GTI has one. One reason why I went with a Canadian Performance edition Mk7 GTI with a tune. The R's AWD advantage disappears when exiting a corner when compared to a GTI with similar power and an LSD. If you're brave enough to void your warranty and install a wave track LSD on the Golf R it will hang with the Type R and Hyundai with ease.
@@drepop803 maybe bring a change of clothes to work? lol I would find a way to be able to ride the CTR as much as possible
The VW Type R is arguably the best all-arounder. You can have fun and not worry too much about chauffering your mother-in-law, who doesn't like you, around.
I bought the Type R, its worth the extra money. How much do you think the Hyundai will be worth 5 yrs from now? Vs the Type R resale value?
ikr people are actually comparing Honda to Hyundai! It's like comparing Toyota to a Chevy...
KJ Wong the Type Rs are like gold. They will sell well on the secondary market.
jaPANIS sucker lol
Do something with the Leon CUPRA!!! come on guys!!!
We don’t have one in Canada!!
golf R 👍👍
And to think the golf is even FASTER with the automatic. What a car, man
Did you watch the part on the lap times? LOL
@@mattyoz0 We do not daily drive on a track.....the GOlf R smoked the N and R in the drag race.
@@buildmorefarms1007 and we don't sit at traffic lights with our launch controls bouncing off their limiter every day.
@@mattyoz0 Still the Golf R was fastest by wide margin at the drag race. Undeniable victory.
@@buildmorefarms1007 and it sucked at the track. Undeniable fail.
seriously im a honda fanboy. owned 3 honda's previously. honda fit, honda civic and civic Si. and now Im driving an ACURA TSX. but this veloster N definitely changed my mind and I'm working my way to get this car. my TSX is already up for sale. I cant wait to have this thing.
i don't buy it. it aint better. and when you add things to the car, is basically the same price and still faster, better, more reliable with better resale value.
Bro, u can buy brand new gti for 27k, stage 1 it and it will rekt that N with easy. You are paying less for more powerful and fun engine. On the end of the day N will always be just silly Hyundai
@@MrSTROM26 wait till you see what some will do to it also ofcorsue when you mod something it will be faster stock for stock Hyundai is better than gti
Getting the N just for the pops. Gotta have my pops. All that savings and better warranty is more practical day to day for years.
Battle of the (relatively) affordable hot hatches! A review for the masses!
Only the Veloster is affordable, the Civic is 9k more and the Golf 5k more than the civic
Relatively masses. Lol.
Noel Medina if you can even find a civic for that price. I checked yesterday and they’re still price gouging it. $44,000-50,000 by me.
@@PerformanceBlueOverYou I know, but the Veloster and Golf suffer from the same problem of dealers pricing how they want. Even considering this, the Veloster is still cheeper and the golf more expensive.
I honestly love your videos. Just one small request:
I know that the Canadians are the sweetest people, but you guys can be a little more open and blunt with the problems you see in the car xD
Thank youu for the entertainment!
Without a doubt, I will buy Veloster N! It's my money and I am gonna spend it with the max. value! Civic R is a fast car but there is no way I am going to pay what they are asking for... Hell NO!
The type r will hold value better in the long run. Spend the extra money and get the r.
Ok if they aren't and ur paying MSRP would u take it
civic is sooooo overstyled and honestly IMHO kinda ugly.
to be fair though, the type-R _has_ grown on me over the years. the Veloster looks great too, but the golf is cleaaaaarly the best-looking car in this lineup.
@@SpaceMissile golf looks like crap and go like crap too, Honda looks way better. Vw is a grannys car..
@@hondasarefaster5914 wrong, wrong, and wrong. 0% F; apply yourself
You guys are good...your channel will grow very quickly. This is Pay Per View quality, awesome. Pssst...I'm not saying take that route, you're perfect here.
So proud of my car! Got this exact Golf R, 2018, manual , dark grey. I love it.
Don’t think it’s the best at anything but it the best at doing everything great.
payasofeo69 it won the drag race.
I agree, it's not the best.
Good on ya for getting a manual and not dsg like 99% of other Golf owners lol. I bet it's a blast to drive!
A Golf stays a Golf.. it is no Subaru or a real fun car.
A true car enthusiast never buys a modern Golf.
@@antoniocalimero1173 this golf r whoopes most of 2010s sportscars' asses
What are you on about?
Imo, I would take the N
Hyundai would be my choice, they really out did themselves. 1st time out and they are being compared to some of the best. Albert really did a great job for Hyundai.
I NEED to get a Veloster N (of course performance package) as my next car. The interior/exterior design is okay, but man that engine sounds great and seems like a blast to drive
Buy that disposable! The honda will run 3 times longer
Did u get one?
@@justinmartin4841 nah Hyundai isn’t what it used to be. This is coming from a guy who’s had both an rsx type s and an 8th gen civic si. It’s all about how you maintain them.
@@Ballsack44 i actually didn't. Ended up buying a motorcycle because it's all i can afford for the time being. Hard to beat 5k for a machine that goes 0-60mph in 3.2 seconds when you're on a budget 🤣🤣🤣
The veloster looks the most fun to drive 🤷♂️
It does but it also looks so much better, like way better
@@Bushey4545 I think the Type R looks nicer. The Golf is ugly as hell though and I think we can agree on that
"basicly, you have a car, cars rust, get it krowned."
*laughs in all-aluminum Honda NSX* :D
Aluminum still oxidizes, and still gets wholes in the body just like a steel car, and is still expensive to fix. Also it won't be as safe as a steel car either. Just look up aluminum f150 vs Camaro wreck and see for yourself.😉
The Type R is a weapon. Great work Honda! I have the 2018 Si and absolutely love it. Looks great next to my B16 powered 90 EF hatch.
I give hyundi props
If it pops...give it props :3
Golf R is like a gentleman’s hot hatch
Civic Type R is like track king
Veloster N is like street king
Still, Type R is about a full second faster from 0-60, and beats the Veloster N to 100, and even beyond those speeds. This video did horrible
joescivic that’s true but Civic Type R and Veloster N are meant for street and track not drag times
joescivic civic type R manual is not that fast than Veloster N.
@@popsandbangs8858 it is, actually. Type R has an extra 60hp and they're nearly the same in weight. What I said above is actually correct.
Type R is a whole second faster from 0-60, and faster to 100, and keeps pulling ahead of the Veloster N after that
joescivic Veloster N 5.2s / ctr 4.8s . Or you Can’t count. ??
Veloster N owner here, very sad they discontinued this awesome hatch for the Kona CUV!
Why haven’t Honda fixed the gearbox issue on the 2019 model!?
ITs not an issue, let it bed in, unlike the dsg issues and gearbox issues on every golf
Frag Zilla lol there’s no such thing as bedding in, the gears are build to mesh with each other. It’s an issue and should be resolved. I don’t know of any manual car that requires a “bed in” and at 40k it damn well better not need too
Imo the golf r is probably the most underrated sports car
Drove all of them recently and the Golf Rs interior is so nice in comparison, but I liked the other two for other reasons as well. My pick is the Golf R overall.
The utility of awd is hard to beat. The price is the killer. Ouch!
and then you drop ~$2000 on simple mods and a tune and you'd be beating any of the others.
@@SpaceMissile In a straight line... simple mods and a tune are not going to make it handle better.
Bad pick, Honda is better and nicer interior..
@@ge-8135 awd is easy to beat.. Honda beats it.
Idk wtf these guys are doing, but that is the lamest racing I've ever seen. I drive a 22 VN DCT and my coworker drives a 22 CTR, and I can tell you from personal experience the VN is faster. I've beaten him 6 times now, and lost 0. I jump off the line, and I keep going, to the point he can't catch up. Up to 140+ I am still stepping away. Idk about the golf, if I meet one I'll update lol.
if i could afford either one, i would go for the type R, because of the pedigree, resale and long term reliability, also the street cred and interior space
And it looks like a supercar on road Lol, Big wing, Trio- exhaust and interesting modifications like side skirts, headlights and many other race model features
@@theweeknd2725 You will also get the attention of sitting in a supercar which is why the car is not for everyone. If you are a shy person who doesn't want to interact with other people don't get a Type R because people will look and stare at you, talk to you and will take pictures and videos.
@Galerion: Dude... Just have confidence! Without it - you aren’t going to last or be successful where you want to be. Being confident is extremely important for having success in life, it has so many advantages. Why would you be shy of just people looking at your car? I would want that and I mean it would increase your prestige. Having attention is a hard thing - not all manufacturers can be able to achieve it.
@@theweeknd2725 Oh I know. Im not talking about myself. I owned a Type R and want one again. Just other people might not see it this way.
Yep speaking from experience. It draws alot of attention. Kinda like the underdog supercar.
The other video with the type r vs the golf r the golf r only lost by a second. Why did it lose by so much in this video?
You guys do great work and give great consumer advice for these types of cars. Keep it up
This without a doubt have Hyundai the attention they deserve, so excited to see what else they can do
I understand why you guys need sponsors... but in todays world getting any additional rust protection is a complete waste of money. Today's cars simply don't rust out the way cars did 20-30yrs ago. When is the last time you saw a 'rust bucket' on the road. My last car after 10 yrs and 370,000km had a small patch of rust on the upper door frame of the drivers door and a few pin pricks of rust on the hood that were created by rock chips. And to add to that I live in Canada (lots of road salt use) and had the car washed ..maybe 4 times over the 10 yrs. Moral of the story... Don't waste your money!
Golf r is simply the smart decision for Canadians. AWD, a stage 1 is pushing focus RS numbers plus you get the to decide if you want the dsg/manual.
Golf's are boring as fuck though. Quiet turbo, quiet engine and quiet exhaust. You have to modify them to get them sounding anywhere near the N.
Not just Canada, of the three, I'd still get the Golf R over the other two.
Most Canadians don't need AWD, it just adds weight and impairs handling and fuel mileage most of the time. A fwd with a limited slip and a set of snow tires will get 95% of Canadians through the winter quite easily.
Golf R just can't corner with any real purpose, it lacks composure when pushed hard.
It's a traffic light grand prix car for people who can't go round corners.
Just a tune in the golf r and its hunting super cars! You guys should have tested with the dsg and launch control, it's quite a bit quicker. That EA888 platform is amazing!
An engine tune is not going to make the Golf R handle better! You need to rework the swaybars, the dampers, the springs, wider wheels, the R doesn't have the aero (the splitter & rear wing) which the GTI Clubsport has, you need the Recaros from the GTI Clubsport too -- it's a lot more than a retune needed to bring the Golf R up to spec.
The Veloster only weighs 30lbs less than the Type-R.
Logλn L that must be where the horsepower went. Horses are heavy.
And the Type R is faster from 0-60 by like a whole second, and it is also faster to speeds beyond that. Horrible video representation of what the Type R is really like
@@joescivic I agree but he did say that he suffered from the second gear crunch during that race which I can understand. Unless you drive one of those cars and feel that second gear crunch that creeps every once and a while on these cars, peeps will never understand. In perfect conditions, the R would have been a different better beast on that race.
@@maximusbandwhat Had my Type R since June 2017, not once have I had any 2nd gear grinds some people mention 🤷♂️ I know about them, just not from experience.
joescivic type R 4.9s , Veloster N 5.2s , bad information.
If you buying a Golf R in Manual is weird, Unless you an actual car guy. Normal people buy the dsg. And out of all the automatic gearboxes it's probably the best.
Just buy the GolfR and live happily.
...while it's under warranty.
As a type R owner I’m like Yeap, seems about right. Not a drag car that’s for sure, fast but not fast from a dig.
Straght line acceleration is so boring compared to fast cornering. That's why I got the CTR and I'm loving every bit of it!
Hey look guys michael schumacher is here. Every twat that says cornering this and that are shit drivers
@@rayflower1915 Oh yeah, real good driver only driver in strait line.
@@rayflower1915 Dont like corners? Bad memories of your moms workplace?
@@Costaz666 That's just an saying for the people think they know how to drive so they talk down on people who actually like to drive on the autobahn. You guys don't even take it to the track lmao
@@rayflower1915 , what is interesting to drive fast on strait?
Slowly becoming my favorite car channel
Or quickly
Still have my reservations :-)
“There isn’t a perfect hot hatch for us right now”
I mean you said it, for everyday living the Golf R takes it. I think a perfect car is one you can drive all year and *enjoy*
Facts Golf R is far superior
@@TWOhype23 It is, I just wish it was cheaper. I’m looking at getting a new car. Manual with AWD. But the Golf R starting at 45k I can’t do that! Especially with the ridiculous APR.
I’m looking into a new WRX Premium. 34k with all the options I’d like. Not a Golf R. But it still gets the job done!
@@destruxandexploze2552 yeah they are definitely expensive but they also come loaded compared to a WRX from what I’ve seen. Although I’ve never personally driven a WRX myself, so I can’t say how it rides.
I currently drive a 2019 GTI Rabbit Edition. And although it might not beat everything on the road, at least I can say I have 1 of 250 (in my color & transmission) in the world.
Maybe one day I can afford a Veloster N. I’m so proud they finally released a decent sport hatch that has balls
Chris Reilly i have one. Worth every penny
Jeremy Ferguson would you say it’s reliable? I’m considering buying one but I’m worried it’ll break down in a couple years
@@taniamonge2301 10 year warranty, unless you plan on keeping it for longer
@@taniamonge2301 So far my Veloster N has been 100% reliable.
@@buildmorefarms1007 I have a 2013 Veloster with 100k miles and it’s been very reliable and has never had any serious breakdowns with average upkeep and care.
Put a bigger anti sway bar on the Golf R, done. I have a 2008 R32 that plowed like a dump truck in fast, tight turns. Put a bigger anti sway bar on the rear, now the car is perfectly neutral, going very fast in tight turns, with nose turn in off throttle. Completely transformed the car. It just needs about 100 more horse power because it is really heavy. Really like that Civic Type R though.