It's basically like a pick-your-own-legendary. The first three tiers are like the kinds of affixes you'd get, and the last tier is like the legendary aspects you'd get.
On the Overload in the snake row, theres a legendary to make wolf pets do lightning damage. Imagine with Overload, legendary to make wolfs do lightning damge and other legendary to make wolves into werewolves. With druid and pets do lightning damage, thats alot of hits to proc the static discharge.
Lightning has so many cool effects for druid! There's another legendary that makes your lightning damage overcharge the target and splash air damage when you hit them, super excited for lightning builds
in the town down a ladder there is a place you hand these inn there is a NPC spirit animal of each one that you talk to and decide the way you want to spend the offerings its pretty cool
Max spirit gets very powerful endgame with all the buffs for when you’re above 50%. The restore 10 spirit is going to be amazing imo. It’s when dealing damage so if it’s every tic of poison has a 15% chance then you may get to spam some abilities like lightning strike.
A couple things here: the 10 extra mana is pretty huge for lightning storm and keeping it going. The whole point is to keep the larger build up going. I think you have 4 seconds before it stops being the larger storm. I was able to keep that up 100% of the time for ashava. Next: there are two legendary rings for lightning that are huge. One turns enemies into a lightning rod. The other creates lightning crackles on the ground. These two rings on top of all the other lightning bolts from storm and skills, it'll fool up the screen with lightning bolts pretty quick. Second- there is a staff that creates a tornado when hurricane hits. So that cool down to the ultimate will happen pretty damn fast. Not only that, cataclysm comes with lightning and tornadoes that follow you. I was able to do massive ashava damage the first time keeping him in the screen. Each of them with a chance to proc lighting rod and bolts. You take the node at the end that gives you mana on hit with nature skills and you are filled all day long. Each of them with a chance to immobilize... That lucky hit stacks up quick when they're are hundreds of them a minute
Wanted to comment and say love the content. Been watching you since Blade and Soul days. Always a ton of insight on the things that interest you for sure. The only reason I played Lost Ark Slot machine was your take on Arti. Hope you enjoy the launch.
Curious how strong a poison werewolf pet build will be. I like the idea of vine creeper with turning the wolves into were wolves, and just plague bombing with vine creeper active and rabies.
I can’t say these boons won’t be effective, but I can say that they don’t sound exciting. I guess I was hoping they would be more build defining. Edit for spelling*
Agreed, they mostly just feel like one extra affix on a piece of gear. The later boons have some more interesting stuff going on but they're still all just small passives. Really hoping they expand on this system!
I didn't like pulverize & have no plans of using it. I don't really like the wear bear. I like shred, poison claws, & charge . Ravens & poison vines, with bulwark as my defense.
Honestly crit chance and crit damage probably the best for bear/wolf imo. Lucky hit ones seem to be alright for a pure.oet build having many other passive pets attacking to hope it'll proc
I see many people are not happy with the current stage of the Druid class. So let me say this. One of the top Diablo players and theory crafters the youtuber Wudijo, predicted that the Druid will be the best , or slightly second to Barbarian late game in terms of damage and survive ability, when we have our builds completed with skills, paragon points and items. And I think I agree with him. People just trash talking on Druid, mostly because of 3 things. The beta early melee leveling difficulties, the famous 17 damage meme, and the nonstop whining from some of the content creators like Quin69 and Asmongold how bad the Druid is. That's it! The people are not taking into account this is just the beta and by far not the complete picture of how our characters will look like once we enter the end game.
Oof, Packleader just seems like too many layers. First, it needs to be a crit, which is a percentage chance. Then that crit also needs to be a Lucky Hit, it's own percentage chance. And even if you manage to get the crit and the lucky hit on the same attack, it's then only a 20% chance of happening. That's a percent of a percent of a percent chance to reset companion skill actions. That feels like it'd happen so infrequently that you'd hardly notice it when it procs, and unless you're already on top of using companion skills the moment they come off cooldown, it might proc when said skill isn't even on cooldown. Feels far, far too unreliable compared to the maybe less "flashy" but always active buffs. 3% heal on every crit feels like it could go a long way for survivability, especially for a werewolf build that's also using the crit chance boost from Eagle. Broadly speaking, werebear seems focused on Fortify and survivability, while werewolf seems a lot more focused on things like crits and poison. So a werewolf or nature magic druid could get some good mileage out of that. I know back in the open beta when I tried doing a werewolf build, survivability was my biggest issue, only really solved once I got a legendary that turned my wolves into werewolves, which made them tougher and more effectively seemed to take the pressure off of me. I'm overall iffy about the "Lucky Hit" mechanic, as it's not "something cool happens on a lucky it", it's "something cool might happen on a lucky hit". It's a percent of a percent, which means the actual odds of triggering a lucky hit effect on any attack is lower than it looks by the numbers, especially if there are other stipulations for something to happen on the Lucky Hit, like the aforementioned critical hit.
There is a Barbarian Legendary item that gives you a chance on the same citeria to spawn a Ancient using the same skill, and that seems kinda bad on paper, but during Server Slam, i played with a friend who got that drop, and using Whirlwind, that proc was quite frequent, more than it would suggest on paper, so i guess this will be fine.
Not how lucky hit works. The up to language is only to account for the lucky hit modifier of skills. A skill with 100% lucky hit, would have 20% to proc packleader on a crit. A skill with 50% lucky hit would have a 10% chance to proc packleader on a crit. There is no third layer of randomness. Lucky hit skills are worded with the up to language, because that is the maximum chance for the condition to happen depending on the lucky hit modifier of the skill being checked for the lucky hit mechanic. For example with the Druid, Claw has a 50% lucky hit chance modifier, whereas Tornado has an 8% modifier. That means for Packleader there would be a 10% chance to proc it with Claw on a crit and only a 1.6% chance to proc it on a Tornado crit assuming no lucky hit bonuses on gear. But tornado can hit the same enemy multiple times and hit multiple enemies per cast multiple times. Lucky hit is designed in a way the normalizes the chance for it to happen across skills. Skills that hit faster or more times or more enemies per cast have lower lucky hit chance due to their lucky hit modifier. It is designed this way to make sure that fast or multihit skills are not the only options for lucky hit focused builds.
@@Yelgis Hmm...you make a compelling explanation on wording I had overlooked. The "up to", which I seem to have glossed over not understanding why it was worded like that, is very important. I appreciate the full explanation, as that'll change the way I judge Lucky Hit in building.
Packleader is a noob trap. You have a percentage chance to get a crit, then if you crit you get a certain percentage chance for that crit to be a lucky hit, and finally if you get extremely lucky to pass those first two checks, 20% of those lucky crits that pass will proc the boon. A percentage of a percentage of a percentage is a very very small number. You will almost never see this proc, even if when of the checks is a guarantee to proc it is still extremely low
That is not how lucky hit works. You are adding one extra check there that doesn't exist. It is only a chance to crit and a chance to lucky hit. The up to language with lucky hit is to take into account the base lucky hit chance each skill has, so the up to 20% chance in the description is the maximum lucky hit chance. This is modified by your lucky hit chance increase on gear/passives (if you have them like Sorc does) and the lucky hit chance of the skill. For example, if the Druid had no lucky hit chance from gear and was using a skill that had a 50% lucky hit chance modifier then Packleader would have 10% chance to proc on each crit. If the skill was 100% lucky hit modifier, then it would be 20% chance on crit. You are assuming their is one extra layer of randomness that isn't there. The up to language in lucky hit is to normalize lucky hit across skills. Skills that hit faster or more target or in more hits have lower lucky hit modifiers, whereas single target skills and slower skills have higher lucky modifiers. That means you won't only take fast skills for lucky hit and nothing else.
Do attacks or crits on each mob apply to a modifiers? E.g. critical strikes heal for 3%. If I crit strike 3 out of 10 enemies, do I heal for 9%? Dealing damage has a 15% chance to restore 10 spirit. If I hit 5 enemies. And 15% lands on all 5. Can I heal for 50 spirit?
I have a question about the "masochistic" spirit boon; when it says "critical strikes with shapeshifting skills", does it mean only when you ACTUALLY shapeshift with those skills or, say, spamming crits with sequential Pulverizes while remaining in werebear form also work? Because well, while the werebear build has tons of fortify, it lacks a bit of healing, but it has that one passive that increases healing received in werebear form. This might just be the sustain that build is missing.
That's a good question! The way it's worded leads me to believe ANY crit you deal counts towards this, as long as your skill is marked as shape shifting. So I think you would keep healing if you keep using pulverize
I expected something much more impressive since they said that the lack of power in the druid was going to be compensated with the class specialization. Technically all I see is RNG. I had faith but I think the leveling process is going to be quite frustrating compared to the other classes to be honest.
Exactly. These boons are not in any way, shape or form going to make the Druid go from zero to hero. IMO, the Sorcerer has the best class specific feature. Simply slotting Fireball into your first enchantment slot makes an enormous difference for farming/clearing trash. It basically acts like the Sorcerer version of Corpse Explosion. Or maybe somewhere between CE and Explosive Blast.
Question: - for Masochistic is it skills that u use to transform into a were/wolf/bear or while in those forms? and does this do you think have a Cap i.e would pulverize if hitting 10 enemies proc it 10 times?
Based on the wording on Masochistic, it's any skill that has the shapeshifting "tag" and we think it is possibly for every crit yes. So any skill that you use that transforms you into a wolf or bear even while still in that form it will work. We're not 100% sure on the crit portion though as we were unable to test it in beta
So the websites visualization of this heavily implies you prerequire point 1 of each branch to be able to get to the next one, but since you says 1 in each and 2 in one of them I suppose the website just used clunky UI for this then?
I see a lot of comments being disappointing towards this system and the underwhelming of it. why do blizz hate druid, why did they not do different class then? I really want to play as a druid as it looks fun and cool, but also weak? God damnit
I think the druid class mechanic was one of the last ones that was made so they probably didn't have much time to work on it. I can promise you though if you really like druid it's a really fun class and extremely good compared to what people got to see in the beta
This honestly seemed really weak overall. A lot of them are 'lucky hit' then has a chance of something happening. That's a percent of a percent change of something occuring. Remember that lucky hit is across the entire duration of a skill, not per hit of duration spells. That's why skills like hydra on sorc were tested and people realized how had lucky hit chance on any skill with a duration on it.
I plan to main druid as well, a lot of these seem kinda meh compared to the other classes mechanics, but maybe they were kinda balanced around us having the other crushing blow mechanic druid was supposedly going to have before. Either way getting to pick all of these to customize will be pretty interesting
@@carthh_ They moved what crushing blow did to the paragon board, so they didn't remove it entirely, may just have been to strong to be unlocked at the start. Survival Instincts board/node
@@LaloN1 that's not really crushing blow though. The legendary is just bonus damage stemming from the difference in life% between you and the enemy. So if you're both at 100% life, there is 0 bonus damage.
I think druids need to stop whining. Druids get 5 passives at most a necro gets 3, which is the class closest to us. They are slow, pet class, fortifier. Necro and druid are very similar and druids have a better class feature.
Energize is going to get nerfed. 15% lucky hit on all damage is pretty high chance, just think of how many instances of damage you deal with storm builds for instance.
As a big fan of the Druid, this is pretty disappointing. Was hoping for something to lift the druid up to the other classes, and this won't even come close. Wow. Lucky hit reliant skills are just stupid. Too many hoops to jump through. No thanks.
Just seems like super generic stat boosts or lame passive boosts, and not anything really special. People (including Blizzard PR) were acting like the reason the Druid felt weak was because we never had access to the spirit boons. Also, considering how comparatively "good" the boosts on the far right are, I very much doubt you can even pick them without investing a total of four points in any given row.
The best way I saw someone describe the spirit boons was kind of like build your own mini legendary. A few passives stats and then a cool effect. Much more underwhelming and not as impactful as I would hope
Difference being, on Druid you get 5 diffrent, Sorc get 2, and probably won't be much variation in Meta, either Fireball for clear, or later on and for bosses Firewall proc (wich is only 5% so that still feels very low) other enchantments are very niche and can't outperform Fireball clear in any real way.
lucky hit is a really bad mechanic which makes pretty much more than half of the boons suck ass...... first you gotta do the lucky hit and then this lucky hit as a % chance to proc something....that's just awful imo
Not true. Lucky hit has a fixed chance to happen per attack. It is only variable per skill. The up to language is to account for the fact that skills apply an amount of lucky hit based on a modifier. Slower or single target skills have a higher lucky mod, whereas fast or multiple hit skills how lower mods. This normalizes lucky hit chance across skills so that Lucky hit won't only be good with fast skills. For instance, Claw has a 50% lucky hit mod, while Tornado has an 8% lucky hit mod. That means Packleader which goes up to 20% would have a 10% chance to Lucky hit on a Claw crit, but only 1.6% to Lucky hit on a Tornado crit. Tornado just hits a lot more enemies and can hit even the same enemy multiple times per cast. If it wasn't normalized like this Tornado would be the best skill to proc lucky hits and you would never rely on anything else for any build using lucky hit mechanics. With Packleader there are not 3 layers of rng, it is just did you crit and does that crit proc Lucky Hit. 2 Layers is still bad, but since Druid can force crits with Landslide and has a crit chance boon and some passives for crit, it is not that bad.
@@Yelgis I was wondering because I wanted to level with a storm build but since we won’t have access to a lot of the lucky hit chance on gear and this build mostly plays with that, I tried to know if hurricane was a proc per cast or tick or per monster first hit etc… I don’t like the: first crit then your crit needs to be a lucky hit thing. I’m gonna stay away from that until there are more tests done on it. I was interested with the storm skills though.
@@Bruno-lr9lm Yea makes sense. It still does take you getting a crit first then having the chance for Lucky hit. Really hard to tell how well it will work out in practice. It could still be bad. I just wanted to clear up the misconception on how Lucky Hit worked.
@@Yelgis one thing sure, the lucky hit then chance to Proc an effect is still better than the one requiring a Crit hit, which then become a lucky hit and then have a chance to Proc. This is the kind of things I’m really uncertain about haha
@@Zerashadow The chances to proc the boons(which aren’t that great honestly) are abysmal. They could be good, but the lucky hit required to maybe have a slight chance to proc said boon is just shit.
It's basically like a pick-your-own-legendary. The first three tiers are like the kinds of affixes you'd get, and the last tier is like the legendary aspects you'd get.
I never thought about it like that, that actually sums it up perfect!
On the Overload in the snake row, theres a legendary to make wolf pets do lightning damage. Imagine with Overload, legendary to make wolfs do lightning damge and other legendary to make wolves into werewolves. With druid and pets do lightning damage, thats alot of hits to proc the static discharge.
Lightning has so many cool effects for druid! There's another legendary that makes your lightning damage overcharge the target and splash air damage when you hit them, super excited for lightning builds
For sure, I was looking to do a full lightning Druid build... Just something about walking around with lightning striking everywhere sounds awesome...
in the town down a ladder there is a place you hand these inn there is a NPC spirit animal of each one that you talk to and decide the way you want to spend the offerings its pretty cool
I’m going Druid’s loved it on the server slam, I’m gonna be 👀
It's exciting seeing all these possible builds.
Max spirit gets very powerful endgame with all the buffs for when you’re above 50%. The restore 10 spirit is going to be amazing imo. It’s when dealing damage so if it’s every tic of poison has a 15% chance then you may get to spam some abilities like lightning strike.
A couple things here: the 10 extra mana is pretty huge for lightning storm and keeping it going. The whole point is to keep the larger build up going. I think you have 4 seconds before it stops being the larger storm. I was able to keep that up 100% of the time for ashava. Next: there are two legendary rings for lightning that are huge. One turns enemies into a lightning rod. The other creates lightning crackles on the ground. These two rings on top of all the other lightning bolts from storm and skills, it'll fool up the screen with lightning bolts pretty quick. Second- there is a staff that creates a tornado when hurricane hits. So that cool down to the ultimate will happen pretty damn fast. Not only that, cataclysm comes with lightning and tornadoes that follow you. I was able to do massive ashava damage the first time keeping him in the screen. Each of them with a chance to proc lighting rod and bolts. You take the node at the end that gives you mana on hit with nature skills and you are filled all day long. Each of them with a chance to immobilize... That lucky hit stacks up quick when they're are hundreds of them a minute
I LOVED the Lightning Storm build easily one of my favorites!
@@carthh_ I'm starting with it!
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Curious how strong a poison werewolf pet build will be. I like the idea of vine creeper with turning the wolves into were wolves, and just plague bombing with vine creeper active and rabies.
I can’t say these boons won’t be effective, but I can say that they don’t sound exciting. I guess I was hoping they would be more build defining.
Edit for spelling*
Agreed, they mostly just feel like one extra affix on a piece of gear. The later boons have some more interesting stuff going on but they're still all just small passives. Really hoping they expand on this system!
Yea, unless its a party buff
It is the Obsidian Slam for me.
Will definitely work well with Pulverize with the Legendary Aspect that turns Pulverize into Earth skill.
They seem a little underwhelming individually but you can choose one in each category and two in one category so they add up.
Great video ! The druid is really slept on
Totally agree!
I didn't like pulverize & have no plans of using it. I don't really like the wear bear. I like shred, poison claws, & charge . Ravens & poison vines, with bulwark as my defense.
im strangly drawn to druid, not usually my style but i like the earrth style caster build with good defensives.
Same! It's a really cool class with lots of options
Honestly crit chance and crit damage probably the best for bear/wolf imo.
Lucky hit ones seem to be alright for a pure.oet build having many other passive pets attacking to hope it'll proc
I see many people are not happy with the current stage of the Druid class. So let me say this. One of the top Diablo players and theory crafters the youtuber Wudijo, predicted that the Druid will be the best , or slightly second to Barbarian late game in terms of damage and survive ability, when we have our builds completed with skills, paragon points and items. And I think I agree with him. People just trash talking on Druid, mostly because of 3 things. The beta early melee leveling difficulties, the famous 17 damage meme, and the nonstop whining from some of the content creators like Quin69 and Asmongold how bad the Druid is. That's it! The people are not taking into account this is just the beta and by far not the complete picture of how our characters will look like once we enter the end game.
It would be cool if you could build am a Lightning bear druid
Oof, Packleader just seems like too many layers. First, it needs to be a crit, which is a percentage chance. Then that crit also needs to be a Lucky Hit, it's own percentage chance. And even if you manage to get the crit and the lucky hit on the same attack, it's then only a 20% chance of happening. That's a percent of a percent of a percent chance to reset companion skill actions. That feels like it'd happen so infrequently that you'd hardly notice it when it procs, and unless you're already on top of using companion skills the moment they come off cooldown, it might proc when said skill isn't even on cooldown. Feels far, far too unreliable compared to the maybe less "flashy" but always active buffs.
3% heal on every crit feels like it could go a long way for survivability, especially for a werewolf build that's also using the crit chance boost from Eagle. Broadly speaking, werebear seems focused on Fortify and survivability, while werewolf seems a lot more focused on things like crits and poison. So a werewolf or nature magic druid could get some good mileage out of that. I know back in the open beta when I tried doing a werewolf build, survivability was my biggest issue, only really solved once I got a legendary that turned my wolves into werewolves, which made them tougher and more effectively seemed to take the pressure off of me.
I'm overall iffy about the "Lucky Hit" mechanic, as it's not "something cool happens on a lucky it", it's "something cool might happen on a lucky hit". It's a percent of a percent, which means the actual odds of triggering a lucky hit effect on any attack is lower than it looks by the numbers, especially if there are other stipulations for something to happen on the Lucky Hit, like the aforementioned critical hit.
Really not feeling lucky hit AND crit together, you hit the nail on the head. Way too many layers of rng really should just be a lucky hit
There is a Barbarian Legendary item that gives you a chance on the same citeria to spawn a Ancient using the same skill, and that seems kinda bad on paper, but during Server Slam, i played with a friend who got that drop, and using Whirlwind, that proc was quite frequent, more than it would suggest on paper, so i guess this will be fine.
Ya, I just commented that. It's a noob trap
Not how lucky hit works. The up to language is only to account for the lucky hit modifier of skills. A skill with 100% lucky hit, would have 20% to proc packleader on a crit. A skill with 50% lucky hit would have a 10% chance to proc packleader on a crit. There is no third layer of randomness. Lucky hit skills are worded with the up to language, because that is the maximum chance for the condition to happen depending on the lucky hit modifier of the skill being checked for the lucky hit mechanic.
For example with the Druid, Claw has a 50% lucky hit chance modifier, whereas Tornado has an 8% modifier. That means for Packleader there would be a 10% chance to proc it with Claw on a crit and only a 1.6% chance to proc it on a Tornado crit assuming no lucky hit bonuses on gear. But tornado can hit the same enemy multiple times and hit multiple enemies per cast multiple times. Lucky hit is designed in a way the normalizes the chance for it to happen across skills. Skills that hit faster or more times or more enemies per cast have lower lucky hit chance due to their lucky hit modifier. It is designed this way to make sure that fast or multihit skills are not the only options for lucky hit focused builds.
@@Yelgis Hmm...you make a compelling explanation on wording I had overlooked. The "up to", which I seem to have glossed over not understanding why it was worded like that, is very important. I appreciate the full explanation, as that'll change the way I judge Lucky Hit in building.
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Packleader is a noob trap. You have a percentage chance to get a crit, then if you crit you get a certain percentage chance for that crit to be a lucky hit, and finally if you get extremely lucky to pass those first two checks, 20% of those lucky crits that pass will proc the boon. A percentage of a percentage of a percentage is a very very small number. You will almost never see this proc, even if when of the checks is a guarantee to proc it is still extremely low
That is not how lucky hit works. You are adding one extra check there that doesn't exist. It is only a chance to crit and a chance to lucky hit. The up to language with lucky hit is to take into account the base lucky hit chance each skill has, so the up to 20% chance in the description is the maximum lucky hit chance. This is modified by your lucky hit chance increase on gear/passives (if you have them like Sorc does) and the lucky hit chance of the skill. For example, if the Druid had no lucky hit chance from gear and was using a skill that had a 50% lucky hit chance modifier then Packleader would have 10% chance to proc on each crit. If the skill was 100% lucky hit modifier, then it would be 20% chance on crit. You are assuming their is one extra layer of randomness that isn't there.
The up to language in lucky hit is to normalize lucky hit across skills. Skills that hit faster or more target or in more hits have lower lucky hit modifiers, whereas single target skills and slower skills have higher lucky modifiers. That means you won't only take fast skills for lucky hit and nothing else.
Grizzly Rage can be turned into an Earth skill, but it isn't a magic skill. Magic skills are like Tornado, Boulder, Lightning Storm, Windshear, etc
Do attacks or crits on each mob apply to a modifiers?
E.g.
critical strikes heal for 3%. If I crit strike 3 out of 10 enemies, do I heal for 9%?
Dealing damage has a 15% chance to restore 10 spirit. If I hit 5 enemies. And 15% lands on all 5. Can I heal for 50 spirit?
Depending on the skill yes, some skills work for every thing
Moar Druid content please
I have a question about the "masochistic" spirit boon; when it says "critical strikes with shapeshifting skills", does it mean only when you ACTUALLY shapeshift with those skills or, say, spamming crits with sequential Pulverizes while remaining in werebear form also work?
Because well, while the werebear build has tons of fortify, it lacks a bit of healing, but it has that one passive that increases healing received in werebear form. This might just be the sustain that build is missing.
That's a good question! The way it's worded leads me to believe ANY crit you deal counts towards this, as long as your skill is marked as shape shifting. So I think you would keep healing if you keep using pulverize
Guess you have to Keyword it, if the skill has "shapeshifting" keyword, this shouldwork with that skill
Shape-shifting skill is a skill description, every skill that causes u to change into werebear or werewolf is classified as a "Shap-shifting" skill
I expected something much more impressive since they said that the lack of power in the druid was going to be compensated with the class specialization. Technically all I see is RNG. I had faith but I think the leveling process is going to be quite frustrating compared to the other classes to be honest.
Exactly. These boons are not in any way, shape or form going to make the Druid go from zero to hero. IMO, the Sorcerer has the best class specific feature. Simply slotting Fireball into your first enchantment slot makes an enormous difference for farming/clearing trash. It basically acts like the Sorcerer version of Corpse Explosion. Or maybe somewhere between CE and Explosive Blast.
I wish they had included the permanent animal forms into the class mastery instead of into uniques Druids might never see in a whole season.
Question: - for Masochistic is it skills that u use to transform into a were/wolf/bear or while in those forms? and does this do you think have a Cap i.e would pulverize if hitting 10 enemies proc it 10 times?
Based on the wording on Masochistic, it's any skill that has the shapeshifting "tag" and we think it is possibly for every crit yes. So any skill that you use that transforms you into a wolf or bear even while still in that form it will work. We're not 100% sure on the crit portion though as we were unable to test it in beta
Awesome. I’ve been curious what the druid boons actually did. Are you playing druid on launch?
Yup! I'll be making videos for some of the druid builds we think will be popular at end game and focusing all on druid
So the websites visualization of this heavily implies you prerequire point 1 of each branch to be able to get to the next one, but since you says 1 in each and 2 in one of them I suppose the website just used clunky UI for this then?
We're still not entirely sure, even from datamining there's a lot of questions left about the system
I see a lot of comments being disappointing towards this system and the underwhelming of it. why do blizz hate druid, why did they not do different class then? I really want to play as a druid as it looks fun and cool, but also weak? God damnit
I think the druid class mechanic was one of the last ones that was made so they probably didn't have much time to work on it. I can promise you though if you really like druid it's a really fun class and extremely good compared to what people got to see in the beta
This honestly seemed really weak overall. A lot of them are 'lucky hit' then has a chance of something happening. That's a percent of a percent change of something occuring. Remember that lucky hit is across the entire duration of a skill, not per hit of duration spells. That's why skills like hydra on sorc were tested and people realized how had lucky hit chance on any skill with a duration on it.
Hydra doesn't hit nearly as many different enemies though.
How many boons can you have active at once?
You can have 1 in every a category, and then 1 more in one additional category. So you can have 5 active at once
I feel lacerate is lackluster, like REALLY lackluster....
Agreed, I wasn't a fan of it
I plan to main druid as well, a lot of these seem kinda meh compared to the other classes mechanics, but maybe they were kinda balanced around us having the other crushing blow mechanic druid was supposedly going to have before. Either way getting to pick all of these to customize will be pretty interesting
Yeah really curious why crushing blow was removed, hopefully they rebalance the boons
@@carthh_ They moved what crushing blow did to the paragon board, so they didn't remove it entirely, may just have been to strong to be unlocked at the start. Survival Instincts board/node
@@LaloN1 Interesting thanks for the heads up!
@@LaloN1 that's not really crushing blow though. The legendary is just bonus damage stemming from the difference in life% between you and the enemy. So if you're both at 100% life, there is 0 bonus damage.
I think druids need to stop whining. Druids get 5 passives at most a necro gets 3, which is the class closest to us. They are slow, pet class, fortifier. Necro and druid are very similar and druids have a better class feature.
These are self buff?
yea definitely underwhelmed with boons
Energize is going to get nerfed. 15% lucky hit on all damage is pretty high chance, just think of how many instances of damage you deal with storm builds for instance.
Agreed, both Lightning Storm and Tornado builds can do a crazy amount of hits
least bad doesn't mean nerf.
As a big fan of the Druid, this is pretty disappointing. Was hoping for something to lift the druid up to the other classes, and this won't even come close. Wow.
Lucky hit reliant skills are just stupid. Too many hoops to jump through. No thanks.
Just seems like super generic stat boosts or lame passive boosts, and not anything really special. People (including Blizzard PR) were acting like the reason the Druid felt weak was because we never had access to the spirit boons. Also, considering how comparatively "good" the boosts on the far right are, I very much doubt you can even pick them without investing a total of four points in any given row.
The best way I saw someone describe the spirit boons was kind of like build your own mini legendary. A few passives stats and then a cool effect. Much more underwhelming and not as impactful as I would hope
Ive had about 780 off these
Yeah no idea how many we'll need but they seem to have a pretty good drop rate
I didnt even notice those at all
@@markmauk8231 They started dropping after level 15, you probably wouldn't really notice unless you were looking for them
@@carthh_ Yeah thats true, i probably havent realized it. Were they auto collect drops?
@@markmauk8231 I think if I remember right you had to click on them to pick them up
A few of these look "okay" but honestly they suck ass compared to the Wizard extra passive bonuses. Why do they have to do the Druid so dirty???
Agreed, they pretty boring by themselves even a bigger let down when compared to some of the other class mechanics
Difference being, on Druid you get 5 diffrent, Sorc get 2, and probably won't be much variation in Meta, either Fireball for clear, or later on and for bosses Firewall proc (wich is only 5% so that still feels very low) other enchantments are very niche and can't outperform Fireball clear in any real way.
lucky hit is a really bad mechanic which makes pretty much more than half of the boons suck ass...... first you gotta do the lucky hit and then this lucky hit as a % chance to proc something....that's just awful imo
Not true. Lucky hit has a fixed chance to happen per attack. It is only variable per skill. The up to language is to account for the fact that skills apply an amount of lucky hit based on a modifier. Slower or single target skills have a higher lucky mod, whereas fast or multiple hit skills how lower mods. This normalizes lucky hit chance across skills so that Lucky hit won't only be good with fast skills.
For instance, Claw has a 50% lucky hit mod, while Tornado has an 8% lucky hit mod. That means Packleader which goes up to 20% would have a 10% chance to Lucky hit on a Claw crit, but only 1.6% to Lucky hit on a Tornado crit. Tornado just hits a lot more enemies and can hit even the same enemy multiple times per cast. If it wasn't normalized like this Tornado would be the best skill to proc lucky hits and you would never rely on anything else for any build using lucky hit mechanics.
With Packleader there are not 3 layers of rng, it is just did you crit and does that crit proc Lucky Hit. 2 Layers is still bad, but since Druid can force crits with Landslide and has a crit chance boon and some passives for crit, it is not that bad.
@@Yelgis I was wondering because I wanted to level with a storm build but since we won’t have access to a lot of the lucky hit chance on gear and this build mostly plays with that, I tried to know if hurricane was a proc per cast or tick or per monster first hit etc… I don’t like the: first crit then your crit needs to be a lucky hit thing. I’m gonna stay away from that until there are more tests done on it. I was interested with the storm skills though.
@@Bruno-lr9lm Yea makes sense. It still does take you getting a crit first then having the chance for Lucky hit. Really hard to tell how well it will work out in practice. It could still be bad. I just wanted to clear up the misconception on how Lucky Hit worked.
@@Yelgis one thing sure, the lucky hit then chance to Proc an effect is still better than the one requiring a Crit hit, which then become a lucky hit and then have a chance to Proc. This is the kind of things I’m really uncertain about haha
Yeah, this is definitely not what I was expecting and am kind of disappointed with the system being so... boring? Dunno.
Wow what a let down, so much for maining druid, final nail in the coffin.
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Think you underestimate the power tbh, if any of these stat was on a piece of gear, that would be a good gear piece.
@@Zerashadow The chances to proc the boons(which aren’t that great honestly) are abysmal. They could be good, but the lucky hit required to maybe have a slight chance to proc said boon is just shit.
Learn the game the Druid is badass. ua-cam.com/video/CkYS53ctTIg/v-deo.html
This is what they wanted to lock from us in the beta?🥲 very underwhelming