Mugen Civic Si- Part 2. Header Intake Tune
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2020
- If you saw part 1, we put the civic on the dyno .
We tested the stock map v K+N drop in map and a custom tune.
This time we install a Skunk2 header and a Hybrid racing Intake. - Авто та транспорт
Need a Rear motor mount.
And then everything else starts. 08 tsx cam. Porter intake manifold. J35-37 throttle body . Rdx 410cc injectors. Hybrid racing fuel rail.
K24 bottom end. All motor monster
The possibilities is endless! Keep up the videos!!
kontemp yes. That’s when it goes from 155 wtq to 200 wtq. Which makes the car feel so much better daily driving.
Yup, I run HybridCAI, S2 Header, full race exhaust, J35tb + IM port match, RDX injectors, Hybrid fuel rail, P2r tbs, Coolant Bypass and the car pulls Hard from 4100 (vtec) I mean I can do 4th gear 60 roll ons and it just pulls on people.. so much mid range power.
Things i dislike about LHT...
1. LHT is not located anywhere near Los Angeles
2. LHT is located in FL which is too far from Los Angeles
3. There are about 8 states between Los Angeles and LHT
4. There are 2,550 miles between Los Angeles and LHT
5. It takes 1 day and 12 hours to drive from Los Angeles to LHT
Keep up the great work guys!
wowsplat Makes you just want to move to FL huh? Especially with the taxes and unbelievable LA traffic
wowsplat Lol. Thanks buddy ❤️
Great job guys and thanks George on the update on Hondata running on your head unit, always enjoy you guys content.
I'm loving the mugen content!!
Great gains!!! Love the work fellas; keep it up!!
Loving the civic content! Thank you!!
Awesome episode, really enjoyed it.
I really like Hasports Mounts they are made for life and look great too.
I love my mugen si now you motivated me to start my build
I love how people try to tell a race shop what they need to do lol. Keep the videos coming and keep kicking ass.
It's very nice to see the before and after effects on the dyno of each of the mods. Like other channels, we only see dynos after a bunch of stuff is install. I installed some boomba mounts. Surprised nobody mentioning those. Cheaper than Hasport, but seems to do the same. Keep the 8th gen content coming! Thank you!
Keep these videos up please! You guys kick ass 👌👌👌
Sounds wicked, great job!
Thanks LHT For the science + information every1 wants numbers numbers numbers without knowing how to get there .
Keep it going love the si build hope to see it getting k24 bottom 🤘🏻
Really enjoy the content you gentlemen produce, thank you!
Agreed. They're so busy yet they make time to make awesome videos like this. Thanks guys.
We appreciate it!
This channel is a Honda lovers dream! I have a feelin a titanium twin loop is on the way for the Si.
Mike A Mugen exhaust will be staying
Nice build. Did a Ktuned header and clutch package on my BIL's Mugen, he also has the K&N jntake. Installed the Hasport rear mount with the header, stiffened it right up. 👍
Subbed for the mugen, and tasteful mods. being a mugen owner myself. I do recommend the oem front lip. When mugen designed this body kit they used a wind tunnel to increase the velocity of air under the car for function. They claim it increases pressure from air over the car to keep it planted.
Awesome video I don't know if you want to get this for the Civic but my Barber had the Si and he had added this to his intake and it made a huge different for his Si..Hope this helps
project-r1.com/toda-racing-air-scoop-for-civic-fd2/
I am a huge fan of Hasport engine mounts. I recently had the pleasure of meeting Brian from Hasport at insightfest, great guy and stands behind his work. I know you guys at LHT are big fans of the honda insight, so you know for future swaps Hasport now makes a K20 mount kit for it. I just bought a set to replace my inferior innovative mounts.
Congratulations George because you have a Mugen Civic, and John you are a great boss that helped George buy it.
ABDULLAH_FARD M. He really is the best!!
I love this civic my buddy had one when they came out !
That’s cr-x looks clean 🤩
I used some Piece's from Dodge ram 1500 Grey Battery Blanket and laid it on the bottom tray and the side of the CAI hybrid racing battery Tray to help keep the battery warm. CAI Hybrid is amazing CAI! That's such a Gem that Blue Mugen.
You guys did a head gasket on my 99 ex coupe with the greddy turbo kit back in the early early 2000's. I have a FA5 now and hope to be bringing that to y'all here soon for some hondata goodness.
That shift at 19:25 was great
Hey guys, just for input on the brakes, I did the tsx caliper pads and rotors up front, direct bolt up, oem Honda parts, and they are bigger, maybe something to look into, mine work great! Keep it up!
I've been loving the Mugen si videos! On my 8th gen si, I have the skunk2 cold air intake, skunk2 header and skunk2 megapower R catback tuned on flashpro. I have the hasport bottom and top mounts and those help tremendously. For brakes, I reccomend the TSX calipers, pads and rotors. Direct bolt on solution with a thicker rotor, larger caliper and larger pads. Looking forward to see what you guys do!
Michael Napoli brakes are next episode (when time permits)
Nice tune
John, I'm really impressed by the way you put time and resources into your staff. I know it benefits the channel but it's plain to see that you enjoy supporting George. Very few other bosses would care. Also, love your Dads northern accent - t'legend ;)
Question Thanks buddy. We spent an entire Monday on his Civic and he got paid to do it 👍🏻. It’s a part of being appreciated
Getting paid to work on your own car and have it tuned is definitely awesome! Johns the best!!!!
Another good one
Hi John, Hi George, Hope George is as excited by this content as I am. Great that you got the head unit working. Would be great is you could get oil pressure and and a few others on the head unit. Really awesome looking header. Love the Mugen content.
Shane Black Lord very excited!
Awesome gains
It sounds so good!!!
Darth agreed!
Excellent video!!
Love your channel, thanks for all the great content
Uber ride share mine? Lol
George looks like the nicest person!
Amazing choice with HR intake! I literally got 226whp - 170t with just HR intake and Skunk 2 exhaust. I recommend a 3 inch exhaust for full bolt ons and power 👌
so you saying that your civic si only have HR cold air intake and Skunk2 headers and tune with flash pro and gain 226 whp which equal to 278 hp to the crank that's a gain of 81 hp from factory. If that is so, it's pretty impressive.
Great content had similar intake hot air temps on B series removing the air resonates and allowing air thou resulted in temps from 130 to 90 hondata s300
Have this intake on an 8th gen. During highway cruising IATs are usually 2-3 degrees CELSIUS above ambient temperature. During wot pulls + 2 degrees. Comparable figures with stock airbox were + 6 degrees.
Very nice! I run the same stuff HybridCAI, S2 alpha header but I run the Full race 3" exhaust... Get the Hasport Rear mount will fix up that header raddle 100%..
Hybrid racing is making a come up and fast with their K series parts.
As everyone has said, good idea to upgrade mounts with the header. I did just the bottom mount to Hasport!
Go full race exhaust it doesn't drone at cruise but when you step on it sounds beautiful
Nice, you got the HR intake. It sounds so nice uh? I would get the Hasport rear engine mount asap and don't drive your car hard until you install it. The extra flex could crack the welds on your header. You pretty much need to replace the rear engine mount when you do your header. Love the videos, keep them coming. I'm likely going to do your brake package on my 8th gen when the stocks need replacing, but in the meantime I'm looking at replacing the TB in the spring for a J37.
Hasport mounts and you guys should the tsx front brake kit 👌🏾💯
Damn picked up around 22hp peak with all the in the middle. Super impressive!
Evo Dingo it feels completely different now!
George Fitzgerald I bet! I got my si tuned 3 days ago but one of our best timers down here in Miami. Made 239 on 93. Not bad imo for a 9th gen. I desperately was trying to get ahold of LHT because I wanted to have my tune done there but as always. No luck. Even hit you guys up on ig. Still no luck. :Shrugs:
Dont understand why people are suprised by the numbers....I have seen countless stock si n rsx dyno in the 190s all the day
I wish there was a build video like this for a 9th gen si
Use the Hybrid Racing mounts. Trust me for the price, the quality and fit & finish is spot on. Ive used Hasport many times in the past, but Hybrid seems to have the best vibration free bushings on the market!!
Wait till you drive it on a 20 degree morning in the fall..... those k20s react to cold air like no engine I've ever seen before.... you can gain a little bit more by setting your valve lash just a smidge tighter than stock recommendation..... (a smidge!)
HighSpeedEnthusiast I’m sad now as it won’t be 20 degrees any time soon here in Florida 😢
@@georgefitzgerald5861 guess I didn't consider location before my original statement. I live in Northern New England and I have a true cold ram air setup on my Si. I've had it out on nights in January when the temperature was literally -10 out and it loved it!!!!
Yow two are real craftsman and i always enjoy your vidios . How about maybe trying an electric ehxaust cutout on the stock catback. I put one on a 2004 S2000 years ago and it really sounded awesome and when i wanted quiet just close the valve. kinda surprised that these are`nt used more often.
We’ve don’t a few with boost activated exhaust by valves. There on our channel somewhere 👍🏻
I miss my FG2. The Alpha header I could notice immediately in terms of power
Hasport rear bottom mount is all you need
I got the pleasure of riding in a Brand new mugen civic back in 07/08 great car but the guy was showing off an about but us in the ditch lol and with the price tag of $700+ a month he almost puked.... cant wait to see what all George has planned for this one
I LOVE THIS CAR. Hey guys any chance of a Kraftworkz supercharger? Keep up the amazing work guys.
I like turtles
Thank you my zombie friend!
Try an engine damper.....that will give u stiffness without the vibration at idle from solid mounts
You need the fdrr and the fgupp from hasport, I have the fgupp and fg4rr on my 14 si, it's all you need.
It’s nice to see some 8thgen content. I’m more than sure you guys know how to build a 3 inch exhaust on the quiet side. Then invidia q300 is well known for its quiet nature but it’s 2.75 inch and that just doesn’t maximize the potential power, so people commonly get the full race/thermal r&d exhausts which are manufactured by the same people. The only difference is that thermal has an adjustable tip.
I have the q300 and I love it.
@@reidmitchell1980 Me too. And their header.
I’ll be leaving the Mugen on and dealing with the slight loss in power
The J37 tb upgrade is really good too
I'm sure it's been asked plenty of times, but @LHT Performance could you please link the specific dash kit you have installed to display all that Hondata info?
It looks perfect with this interior!
What are your thoughts regarding building a little shield to help keep the air filter dry? I've had a few cold air intakes in the past and they always seemed to get soaked just from driving normally in the rain. I live in Washington so it rains quite a bit. The Washington rain isn't as intense as Florida rain but it feels like we see more rain days than dry days.
I have a 9th Gen Civic Si with a short ram intake, during the summer IAT can get upwards 130 degrees. I'd like to switch to a cold air intake, which is why I asked the question.
Very nice! I get a 2005 acura rsx last month. It has dc sport header and intake... what need to have to tune it?
@LHTPerformance I have that same display. I may have missed it in the last video or two but what is needed to run that? Is it an app separate from Hondata?
Gian Deleon I’m using torque pro available with google play
Hey man what display is he running
The full race 3" exhaust for these cars sounds amazing and isn't very loud! I made 226whp in my fa5 with the same intake and header with the full race exhaust.
Indecisive Gearhead I just ordered the exhaust. Ill be ordering the same intake next. Cant wait
I can’t remove the Mugen exhaust I love the sound!
Indecisive Gearhead with the flash pro?
@@glock316 yes I had a hybrid racing intake, skunk2 alpha race header and full race exhaust tuned with flash pro.
@@indecisivegearhead so that's all you have, hr cold air intake, skunk2 header and full catback exhaust tune with flash pro and you gain 226whp (278 hp to crank), that's pretty impressive gains for a 8th gen si.
Just hope you don't take out the oem mugen muffler sounds so good
What display is he using in the head unit and also to get that information on the screen he has an app? How does that work?
Did you consider adding reflective gold heat tape to intake manifold and cold air intake to further reduce the air temp going into the engine?
George should do the heavy duty gear selector springs it like $20 and makes a world of difference in the shifter play. maybe some good content and maybe a EM1 CMC?
I got the hard motion set up.
Stainless steel line oem honda parts without the extra diaphragm.
@@mc6912 it's look like the hybrid racing one just a few differences
Does this solve the massive amount of play when in gear with the lever? Feels like a dogs breakfast when driving mine.
@@tannercherko8802 the gear selector spring with take out a good bit of play so will the shift cable bushings there pretty cheap mods and make a good and noticeable difference. Takes a good amount of play out
Intake temperature can be decreased with these parts too
*Delete coolant bypass through the throttle body
*Throttle Body Thermal Gasket
*Intake Manifold Thermal Gasket
I bypassed the tb coolant when I did the intake I may port the intake manifold then I will do the Hondata gasket
Your Si is limited due to "MUGEN." I recommend sandwiching that HONDATA gasket w/ 2 OEM intake manifold gasket for a piece of mind. The manifold coolant jacket will be walled off from seeping.
I luv your car !!!!!
Chris Honda thanks!
Man you got a such a keeper I believe if I was to let go of my ep it would be for that mugen as well or a really nice si non mugen version
Good gains George and John, nice! Was very interesting watching you cover the IAT temps, I have this on my main dash along with Coolant temps,Boost and AFR. Living in AZ the IAT gets up there for sure and I avoid boost for the most part. When the car was on the dyno and George was able to monitor the stock WB against the dyno WB and you guys were getting the same AFR, this is what I was seeing too with a AEM WB VS stock WB through the Torque PRO app so decided to remove the AEM and just run the digital gauge on the dash, same with a physical VAC/Boost gauge for a cleaner interior.
In the previous episode when George showed the app being Hondata I wanted to know more of its capabilities but in this video it appears it is just a rebranded version of Torque/Pro, does it actually have any advantage over Torque or intergraded with Flash Pro? Also would be a good video if you are able to implement oil temp and pressure into the OBDII COM port with custom PID's and get those to show up on the dash, I've been wanting to do that for a while.
Thanks for the great content guys and love following along on Georges car!
lcq4blackstar the Hondata app on this unit isn’t customizable and I’m now using torque pro exclusively. I haven’t looked into adding other sensors but I may start after reading this.
@@georgefitzgerald5861 Thanks for the follow up George, that is a bummer as it appears to be a skinned version of Torque from what I saw in the vid. Once you get Torque Pro dialed in it is a game changer IMO on having a clean solution for monitoring the engine without all the clutter of aftermarket gauges all over the car as I previously had. Keep us updated how you get on with Torque Pro and if you get some of those custom PID's to work with added sensors, there is a Torque forum that may be of some help. You can also do some add ons to Torque Pro called "Torque Scan" and "Knock Detector" that will be of use. You can also do datalogs with the Torque Pro app that is a nice feature when not logging with a Flash Pro, I wish I had more time to invest on the PID's.
@@georgefitzgerald5861 George, just giving it some quick thought I would imagine it should/could work something like this... On my car I have EGR and Secondary O2 sensor disabled in Flash Pro, from these two I could use the harness for these two to feed the oil pressure and temp sensor respectively. On the app side I would need to route the raw data (0-5V) and apply a scaler to convert to the respective sensor scaler data (temps) and (pressure), I don't know if that is possible with the app but this is how I did it on my motorcycle ECM to convert the stock NB to WB data for logging and road tuning, unfortunately in that project the O2 sensor must be disabled in the ECM as the ECM firmware parameters would need to be scaled to make use of the sensor on its own. This is why choosing the disabled sensors in the car application is ideal.
You should close the passenger door to get those 4 extra hp.
LHT performance, will a mugen Si exhaust direct fit the FA5 Civic Si?
Tsx brakes , thicker rotor
Tl type S calipers and s2k rotors???
I got a good question for you guys I have a 09 Honda Civic lx 1.8 it’s automatic but I took off the resonator added a skunk2 exhaust and added a dc short ram intake if I buy the Hondata can I tune my automatic car or does the device only work on stick shift cars? Awesome video btw!
I don’t believe you can tune an auto. Check on Hondata’s site
This makes me miss my 8th gen SI. I traded it for the 10th gen. I’ve always wanted a turbo car.
10th gen si?
Jean Bonilla yep
@@krismenon8071 how u liking it? I maybe in the market for a new car mid this year or next year. I was kinda looking at the Type R but that 36k msrp tho. It's up there with a STI
Jean Bonilla it’s great. The interior is a huge upgrade over the 8th&9th gen. It’s nice having low end torque also. All I have done is intake, intercooler and hondata stage 1 tune. It really woke the car up.
@@krismenon8071 good to know. I really like the interior of the 8th gen so that's good news. I want to get into the new civic but idk if I can part with my 8th gen 🤦♂️
When does the charger go on it?
What Android head unit is that? Love the in depth video by the way. Great job.
Cliff Nelson daisata on Amazon
Can I buy the same exact tune? Or can you show me how to add fuel to a map from hondata?
Enjoy your videos guys. What’s that in dash screen you got? Possible to fit on my RSX?
Gianni R it’s a daisata unit I think they have universal double din units I’m not sure if they have an rsx specific unit
What screen display is this???
Hey george lets make some runs at the next street wars 🙂
What head unit is that ? Do you have the link for it ?
MORE MUGEN CONTENT
type-dRew got another box of content today! Video coming when we have time
Is the motor mounts required because of the extra power it’s making or is it because unlike the stock header that has a donut gasket and allows the engine to move without moving the rest of the exhaust to much? The header is 3 feet long and bolts directly to the head so the slightest movement of the engine will cause the other end of the header that bolts to the existing part of the exhaust to move 3 inches. I don’t like after market mounts. Everything vibrates
IWORKYOUWATCH is like to keep the vibrations to a minimum but with the extra midrange power it has it spins the tires in first /second and wheelhops
George Fitzgerald okay. I see how wheel hop could really make that header bounce around on the sub frame.
Any plans to go forced induction? Merc Racing has great s/c kits for the Civic.
I’d love a merc kit but that’s a ways away
I need motor mounts on my 8th Gen Si. Very curious to see what you guys do. If you are up for it I would like to see how to swap those without having to remove the engine or subframe
Mike Louder I’m sure we will. I’d like to share what we do.
Whatever decision is made it will be on here in detail!
Does anyone know if those header fits on Acura csx k20z2?
Hey guys is it true that a short ram intake is better than the hybrid one
Where you guys located
Your deck is so clean looking? Do you have a video on the install or where to purchase that??
joshua land you talking about Swisstrax flooring ?
@@LHTPerformance no I was referencing the touch screen head unit you had.
joshua land I don’t remember the name. George talked about it in episode 1.
8th gen gang
civic si fa5 mugen tsuchnoko intake
what kind of headunit is this? @lht
I think he mentioned in Part 1
Hybrid Racing over Skunk2 every day of the week. I have over 10 Hybrid Racing parts on my Integra Type R and can't fault them so far. I bought a Skunk2 Ultra Street Inlet manifold and will never buy anything Skunk2 again. Personal opinion of course.
No, this opinion is the correct opinion lol.
I tried calling your office today and no answer so i left a message no response whats going on i want your brake brace
Try sending him a message on his Instagram, I'm sure they stay busy with customer cars and fans just trying to chat with em, if they're answering the phone they aren't wrenching on cars. Best of luck
Aaron Watson I have one person answering the phones. Sorry. She stays pretty busy with customers as can’t get every call.
Well call you get ahold of me not teying to be aggressive just realy like your work and am realy excited about your builds. Wish i was closer im in California. I love your builds
And need a brake brace. Mine master cylinder is leaking. Im about to replace it at $700 so i want to have your brace for good insurance.
And i watched your diff oil change video and it was impossible to find a 23mm wrench at the store in California. Hahaha i had to use Amazon
sounds like a lawn mower
Garth Leach Most lawn mowers are one or two cylinder engines. They are typically designed to make their power at very low rpms, around 2000-2500rpms. I own a Honda mower and don’t think it sound close at all.
Thanks!
Great series lads
Would it be worthwhile doing recording braking times with OEM first for a baseline and then a timed run with AM components?
Dont have to do it ultra accurate but something to reference would be ace!!!