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TUNED 2020 CIVIC SI vs. TUNED 2018 CIVIC SI | LETS GO!!
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2020
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-- My Mods:
1. Ktuner w/ Phearable Stage 1.5 tune
2. PRL Cobra CAI (street MAF)
3. MAP Street Exhaust
Next up: PRL Intercooler install
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1: go catless. There’s no point in going big pipe and still have blockage. 2: don’t do no lift shifting on third and fourth gear, you will break the gears. 3: PRL themselves have posted there is no exhaust system that’s better then the factory exhaust. They said they dyno their car with and without the stock exhaust and had no major change in power to justify it. Changing the exhaust will just be to change noise. 4: Emans type r retro kit clutch is hands down the best. 5: PRL cold air kit with race maf is sooo cool. Love the boost sounds. 6: You have to convert to ethanol flex fuel. The power gains are ridiculous (keep the blend in the 30-40 range). Hit me up if you want more info.
That downpipe really makes a HUGE difference on these 10th gen si’s. Nice video bro.
"let karen pass you" XD
⁷u⁷ a p677
He has one of the best sounding 10th gen civics 😍
Thanks man🤘🏽
Dakota Hall hey Dakota did you paint your valve cover or buy it from somewhere?
xNuckin_Futs hey man, I just painted it myself. I didn’t want to spend like 300-400 on the spoon one that they painted because it’s still an oem plastic piece
@@dakotahall1284 dude is the CNT downpipe good quality? I'm thinking about it. And does it match up to stock exhaust
Dakota Hall how do you make the turbo sound just for make the 2step mine doesn’t sound like that
I admire your positive attitude after losing multiple races. I chose to get the RV6 catless down/frontpipe combo from TSP. Best price around and good quality. Should be coming in tomorrow and I took time off work just to install it asap
How did it go? Im getting the combo for my 2020 hatchback
10th gen si sedan gang !
Awesome race guys. This stuff is so fun to watch. I’m happy to sit back with my mostly stock 19 FC3 SI and watch you whipper snappers mod and race.
Great video man as usual been a subscriber for a little while idk if you remember but I got the 2020 civic si today!! Man I’m in love with this car already and I’ve only driven for a couple hours with breaking in! Can’t wait to fully unleash her
Just make sure you follow the break in parameters. Very important. I realize it's hard to hold back lol but the payoffs worth it.
I have a video from back in November/December on how properly break in this car
Phearable is a great tuner! I was the first one to have his G.O.D tune and stage 1.5 tune. became much more of a blast to drive and alot faster :)
Your channel has really started to become one our my favorite 10th gen channels man 👍🏼
Thanks, Angelo
MAPerformance.
I had the privilege of getting a tour of their facility. They do all their own R&D in house. Test and retest till they get it right, then test on their own Honda Civic before it’s released to the public. They just released their own FMIC and have plans for a big turbo. He even gave me a walk around of their 1/4 mile car.
Thats pretty cool. They seem like good people
His clutch set up should be way lighter then stock so that makes a big difference
To be honest I didn't know the new Honda Civic was turbo charged till i started watching your channel
You’ve come a long way man, I remember commenting on your first video a few months ago, congrats on the success!
-broken_fc1 :)
Thanks man! Glad you’re still here!
Pretty good race man, that 10th gen pulls really well that downpipe makes a big difference.
Shifter kit would get you faster than a DP with the shifts I was seeing (or driver mod, which we all need). It's a great mod regardless of racing too.
DDD yeah even the type r shifter like what I have has a little bit of a shorter throw
@DDD A short shifter always gives you that advantage. I would also get a shift kit than a dp.
@@AnimationRecapz down pipe for sure which is one of the best performance part. A short shifter isn't going to be a better start. You touch the shifter when upgrading a clutch.
Cam, that was some pretty cool racing dude. Good stuff. I have a 2018 Si coupe & i am running ALL maperformance exhaust (non-burnt tips) . I would recommend the ceramic coated catless downpipe. It's not bad at all as a daily, noise wise. But when you pour the coals to it, it wakes up. Plus the under hood temps are way down.
Another quality vid Cam (and Dakota). Thanks guys. U rock.
Pretty even in the last two races. Shifting at 6500 rpms gives you more staying power. I believe straight piping is the next step.
Love the video, very close race. Keep up the amazing videos:)
Guys on civicx want more input from you regarding this tune. Thought I would let you know.
LOL
I love it when you list the mods like that
His has taller gears that are better for roll racing, cameron your car has the shorter gears prob better off the line than his
@@Tim_281 lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll) loop
I have the prl catted downpipe and frontpipe mated to the MAPerformance Race exhaust and couldn’t be happier. So many pops and crackles, it sounds so good, might be too loud for some people but perfect for me... and it made my si’s balls drop and my clutch start to slip😂 but I knew going into it that my clutch was going to give out eventually even on the Ktuner 19.5 psi. I have an ACT street clutch kit in my basement waiting to be installed. Hopefully will get it put on in the next month or so. Just know that if you get a bigger downpipe with that tune your clutch will definitely begin to slip!
i have the prl catted dp paired with the AWE tuning track edition on tsp stage 1. Def huge power gains felt. Careful with the dp install. probably going to snap the top right stud
😂happened to me but lucky it snapped far enough that i could still thread a new bolt
Sebastian Deleon same here!!
Sedan for the win. Great job guys.
If you ever find yourself in fl I’d gladly let you race my si, you’re a great dude.
What part of Florida are you from? I just got a 2020 si. If you have any extra parts you’re trying to get rid of lmk!
Great vid, can't wait to see the Honda hack as I might do the same thing.
Eric Drobnick it’s pretty nifty is you utilize it. I definitely don’t use it to it’s full capabilities but then again I just use it for the ktuner app
In the end it was much closer. He was waiting to shift longer than you. The clutch grab that he had, of course is better than stock but they were good runs. I still like your MAPerformance exhaust better 😀.
I can't wait to try out that tune
Great video man! You gotta get the rear motor mount to put that power down!
Pretty solid that a hot reflash alone just about holds against a basemap car with the extra bolt ons/exhaust. TSP/Phearable are a bargain for what they give an otherwise stock car.
If he tweaked the 23# map and removed the boost taper (it goes back towards 21#) and bumped his base ignition map up past the torque peak... it’d start really moving away better. I thought the basemaps were pretty lazy up top.
Damn dude. Didn't realize you were local. That shopping center is literally two minutes from my house. I have a 10th gen SI as well.
Nice! Im thinking about holding a car meet sometime soon. You should come out
@@Camhill182 Im down to join. Its been a while since my last meet and havent been to one with the new car yet. Had the SI about about a month now. Few little mods, and tsp stage1.
Good stuff dude
ViperTuner bro do you live in Anatolia?
I don’t have a Honda, but I’m local and I’m always down for a little meet up or cruise.
Proud of you Dakota!
Franco Makou thank you sexy
lit vid cam keep em coming!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Greddy sp catback & prl street down/front, hondata +6lb. Honestly I'd stick with the high flow cat. Just because I daily it 3hrs per day and I like to still hear my music. I feel a difference for sure. However I still need the intercooler & cobra cai.
I know you don't want to go catless, but the power you get from it and the pops, bangs and gunshots every once in a while is so awesome.
Yea, I get that, but I could always go that route later on if my channel is doing better
@@Camhill182 and just want to say man, I have been loving the channel! Awesome work man 👍
Thanks, tim. I try. What mods do you have on yours?
@@Camhill182 mine is a 17si sedan,
Prl short ram intake
Prl Downpipe/frontpipe Combo
PRL Full front mount intercooler & Charge Pipe Upgrade kit
Muffler delete
K Tuner V1.2
Steel Braided Clutch Line
TSP Stage 1 Tune
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch & Lightweight flywheel
Boomba motor mount
Upgraded wilwood Clutch Master cylinder
Mishimoto catch can
TEIN lowering springs
18" ENKEI ts-5 Bronze Wheels
It feels really good. Love it. Seems like you have a real passion for cars tho. Just love seeing that
@@timmybomb21 nice! sounds like a complete setup. I need some good tires soon. probably next few months
Race him with TSP stage 1 next time around. I would love to see how both of these tunes compare...just a thought.
It wouldnt make sense because he is helping me put on my PRL intercooler and charge pipe combo this week
@@Camhill182 cool can't wait!
@@Camhill182 with intercooler you will definitely see a difference. The car will boost max all the time
Awesome races. Wish I could get in on it.... Also y'all boys should get the type R headlights . They're so cool
He has them, 2020’s come with the touring. My car doesn’t because it’s a 2018
@@dakotahall1284 oh I didn't notice! I'm new . Definitely worth getting those Type R style head lights tho
MK6CHRIS it’s all good man, yeah I’m not sure what lights I want to go with yet.
@@dakotahall1284 what are your options?
MK6CHRIS there is a quite a bit of options but even with the options out there, I’m not really focused on getting lights at the moment
@ 2:00 When he is saying you can just apply the Type R exhaust to a coupè is not true. You have to shorten then exhaust to fit the coupe
I have a Rv6 Ceramic coated, Catted DP. Power gains were noticeable.
I’m here to see who blows their 1.5t first, the gray car has my setup I’m impressed
Storm trooper SI sorryano I’m doing an engine build so I highly doubt it
Dakota Hall got an Instagram?
Itll be me
Storm trooper SI sorryano yes sir, _dakota.hall_
Dakota Hall well good luck and I hope you don’t blow up your engine, I just started following you on Instagram
Fx400 clutch is like the best street type clutch out there it feels so nice 10x better then the oem clutches in those new civics
Definitely not better than the type R retrofit, it holds the same power and has stock drivability
Next have Dakota run TSP stage 1 nice vid
I’m probably gonna be on tsp2 by the time we next race. Just depends
I think the final drive on the 2019 and down is better for these when tuned.
Make a video for Honda Hack and how to properly install apps and functions.
Those are Pilot sport 4s tires are they not?
yeah saw the tread on those tires, thought the same thing, they are the 4s
Yep they’re 4s, I keep calling them sport cups🤣 so used to have the sport cup 2’s
If you get an RV6 downpipe and have it ceramic coated, get it in silver. The engine bay will run cooler.. I also noticed the turbo had less lag with less back pressure on the exhaust.
thanks for this. does coating the FP benefit too?
Nice vid bby!!! That civic would sound proper being louder!
HE LIVES!
I wanna see that brz race .. that e85 tune is interesting
@@sergnextdoor5213 itll be sweet. I am THIS close to buying one right now. I love those things
SergNextdoor aye nice to see that video of you and Cam race man. Those Cobalt SS are not a car to sleep on
“Let Karen pass you” Lmfaoo. Run my 6mt sport hatch if you’re in SoCal , should be a fun race
Yeah she was all up on our asses even though we were doing the speed limit
Clinton Popham He can do as he pleases. It’s his car.
CivicR Media thanks man🤘🏽
Clinton Popham the red H has nothing to do with the type r and everything to do with Honda’s formula 1 history. They put it on a type r cause that’s the closest to their racing heritage, by in no means it is a type r badge except for the badge that actually says “type r”. Check this, the s2000 doesn’t share badge size with any other Honda, yet they sell legit red H badges for the s2000 with legit OEM part numbers, and the s2000 doesn’t have a type r...
These cars are so quiet didn't even sound like you guys were going, nice car tho.
Cameron hill you need to do a re run now with your mods and tune !
Wow that down pipe makes a big difference
I like the sedan but the coupe is sick if I could afford one I would get the coupe and try to get 300 320 whp on pump gas and would be happy as hell nice vid man keep the content going I enjoy your vids
Chris Honda you would need a big turbo kit to be that high on just pump gas. Most people have to run e30 because of the limitations on the stock fuel pump
Awesome video bro !!!!
I wished he sent me the tune to try out Also. Hahah.
Love these videos man! It’s COOL to see what I can do with my 10th gen! You should look into buying an oil catch can since the car is direct injection. Save your intake valves and turbo 🐌
It’s been proven that the catch can won’t do much if anything at all.
@@dakotahall1284they look cool tho
@@NotMyRealNameBro okay mods shouldn’t be about looks
400 miles into my 2020 Si Coupe. Great little car. i think you guys talked me into a KTuner with the TSP stage 1, otherwise all stock. Will that be below the threshold that will need a stronger clutch? What do y’all think?
I just want to point out he’s on aftermarket wheels…. Taking weight off the drive train directly affects acceleration. No bs for every 2lbs off drivetrain shows a 1hp gain on the dyno. Obviously it’s not changing the output of power but roller dynos measure up in terms off acceleration of the roller so it’s still relevant. I dropped 14lbs off my drivetrain alone and gained 8hp according to the dyno and in total lost 28lbs over stock wheels. Have to factor that in bro. Maybe he still would have beaten you but you would have been splitting hairs because he didn’t pull away very hard at all.
Cool stuff man, even though I just blew a bearing in the transmission.... I might have to get this tune when the dealership is done replacing it lol
Aw shit. What happened? How?
I have not a clue man, did a WOT pull in 4th, shifter to 5th and main shaft or output shaft bearing grenaded
Alan Joynes Jr what year is it?
@@alanjoynesjr4835 not surprising. This isnt some built race car. Just a matter of time for something to blow up if you exceed factory specs for an extended period especially on a honda which is designed to originally be an econobox.
I had a catless downpipe&frontpipe from KLMFAB (canadian brand) on my invidia r400 catback exhaust. on TSP STAGE 1 it was really damn loud but very clean sound. good rumble not raspy or anything.
Is Dakota running straight 91 pump gas in this ?
having a catless front pipe and downpipe is already a failure for smog. Idk if smog techs care unless you got a a citation for state ref to inspect your car
Does a cold air intake really do anything? I think they are mostly for sound.
I have the prl 3" catless downpipe, with stock front pipe and exhaust. Honestly only notice a deeper growl and maybe a little louder in the cabin, but sounds nice. I can send you a video of how mine sounds if you like (not a half throttle 0-25)
I also have the prl race maf ;)
what iphone mount is that? super sick. great race also, as expected to me tho bc the downpipe
Its just a cheap thing from amazon
Can you try race a non-si 10th gen with the cvt? I would think it'd come to the driver
Maybe
that steering wheel has to be the fxx racing wheel. dont all buddy club have the logo? i could be wrong. the fxx wheel is not a bad wheel itself.
I’m not 100% sure. When I bought it, it was from a buddy. It looks identical to the buddy club so that why I think it is.
Were you using stock clutch? Or does anyone know if Cam was using stock clutch?
I respond to all reasonable questions! Yes, I was and still am on the stock clutch
If you want some secret sauce go to autozone and get Vp racing octane booster I’ve tried them all only vp racing works keeps knock at .49 when I was on tsp or you can just put 2 gallons of e85 with your fill up and that’s the same it will keep it at .49 big difference in power from.49-.60 trust me
Install your TSP tune and re-race.
Yo Cam….is the phearable you’re running here in this vid better than the custom tune by Derek?
I prefer the Phearable tune
How is he running a race maf on base maps I’m doing it as well be have late throttle response for some reason
Finally 10th gen
a tubro kit and a 90s civics are wayyyy faster and cheaper , 123 and the pulls where so weak for such exspensve cars
the good ol days. nicolr rose and natasha yi.
Honda Hack is the way to go....worth every penny
Thanks to you, I ordered it lol. BUT.... I ordered it thinking they were in CST... so that wasnt the case... they are closed. It will likely be Monday before I am able to get it... :(
You will love it!
@@Camhill182 I like it so far, but I had to go back to TSP stage 1. I am havin a crap ton of K.control issues with Phearable. Just 1 pull pushes me in to .69+minimum. I made a run 2 days ago and looked over and it jumped up to .87 ... I think my typhoon intake breaths to freely, and the tune needs some type of adjustment.
@@Camhill182 Hey, on the side note, Try checking the box for Advanced VSA, then turn the Advanced VSA mode to Aggressive ignition pullback/low fuel pullback. It makes a MASSIVE difference from a dig for me.
Rob y4h3ll that sucks, im sorry to hear that. It was created on all stock parts, so Im not sure what happened
Bro, the owner called me from Phearable and explained a few things for me. I figured it was the intake that was the issue in the first place, he confirmed it. I will wait for my 27Won intake to arrive and give it another go around.
So weird seeing a Honda shift under 7k. Shit 6-8500 is my sweet spot on my b-series
I might get an 8th or 9th gen si as a long term project
Are you guys running 91?
AFE catted DP is the way to go.
Great vid man. I think I’ll purchase the phearable tune just to compare it to the tsp. You will definitely notice a difference with a high flow cat. I sent you a DM with the parts I’m running
awesome! please do!
@@Camhill182 With the phearable tune, do you still have the same issue while shifting slow like you did with the TSP stage 1?
Been telling you bro get that DP i have the prl downpipe catted and frontpipe and the car spools up way quicker and catted is nowhere near loud sounds almost stock after warmup
Nice! Good feedback. It sounds like most people recommend the PRL. Im gonna go with then
good stuff bro. why not go stage 2?
Because I dont want to blow up my car
Oh hey! Didn’t see that it was you. Yea im not really interested in going E85 with this car. The engines are not as reliable as the K-series motors
Does tune have traction control all the way off?
What all can do to these 10th hens before you void the warranty 🤔
Intake and exhaust should be fine, but once you flash the car with a Ktuner, your warranty flies right out the window. Honda does not play games with warranties and tuning and stuff
catless is more 1-2 hp than catted downpipe. i
Where’d he get his Red valve cover? Also, going with the Michelin cup tires over the more streetable pilot sport 4s tires was a bold move...
SDAlexander I painted it myself, I did get the 4s, I had the cup 2’s before hand. Just keep calling them sport cups instead of 4s
Spoon also sells one but it's pretty expensive for a red plastic valve cover.
Dakota Hall I gotcha. I appreciate the unique build with the personal touches without dumping thousands on flashy mods. Did you do the clutch replacement yourself? How is the NVH with the 27Won RMM? What other 27Won bolt ons are you considering other than the W1? The 27Won may be something I purchase in the future for my 2017 coupe.
ViperTuner yeah it’s like 300 bucks last I saw
SDAlexander I did not do the clutch myself, I had my car buddy do it. But now I’m gonna have Eman do it when I go down there to do it. Honestly I’m not sure what other mods to do from 27won. I’m probably still gonna go with prls intercooler. The motor mount is amazing, it’s rough at the beginning but I’ve had it on for over a year and I love it so much.
Intercooler will LARGELY help as boost can be constant the whole race also since commiefornia only has 91 try some octane boost octanium kicks ass as well as klotz itll make ur gas about 98 octane, downpipe will help ur spool time
Ohh yea 🔥🔥🔥 run
Aye good stuff fam
Try the PRL bro, the power increase is great and is not that loud..
Im going to!
Get either the 3 Inch PRL or the GESI version of the MAPerformance, yeah its like $800 but the 3 inch prl is high flow and the GESI Maperformance is high flow. I would only get one of these 2 no others. I have the PRL with a 3 inch front pipe you will see a massive difference.
awesome. and what exhaust system do you have that paired with?
@@Camhill182 I have the invidia for the SI Coupe. I wanted the MAPerformance like yours but I believe as of right now it is a 6-8 week waiting list and I was inpatient.
whATS THIS GREAT MUSIC U USE
How much power do you put down?
No doubt prl!
That a boy Cam. Your race videos are the best. Please take your SI to the track for some roll racing. The no left shifting and down pipe were too much. Does your car have a name? Cars need names. Great video man
This was fire 🔥 why didn’t you show the Honda hack on Dakotas interested ... probably saving it for when you do it for yours 🤔
There isnt much to show, plus I was just showing him how my gages where set up. He’ll probably do a video about it soon
recording that video tomorrow
Dakota Hall still would’ve been interesting to see your set up... or does everyone set it up mostly the same
daniel cordoba I think there is like 12 different layouts that you can do on the screen. I’ve seen majority of the people who have it on there run the same stuff as I do
Look into rv6 Catted dp/fp combo...I feel like there is a bump in power and Forsure sounds way better
Ill give it a look
So you were only on the phearable stage 2 and not the 3?
The tune is Phearable Stage 1.5. I was on Map 3 which is the highest power setting of that tune
Bro. Are you record with your GoPro 8?
Yes
i noticed shifting robs you of alot more time than him...aaaaand as i was writing this comment I hear him say he wasn't lifting, so it makes sense. Cheers.
Yea im trying to be as nice as I can while still having fun with it, you know? I really dont want to break anything, although If i keep racing its probably going to happen
@@Camhill182 i 100% understand man. i beat the crap out of my 8th gen si while it had over 200,000 kms on it and it still went with abandon, lol. But i'd do same if i was you.
Muhammad Saeed yep, I was doing it occasionally. I definitely don’t do it all the time just because it isn’t great on the car